Is Mao worth reading? Did he contribute anything worthwhile to Marxism?

Inmate
Inmate

Is Mao worth reading? Did he contribute anything worthwhile to Marxism?

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Poker_Star
Poker_Star

He only valuable thing he contributed to Marxism was about 550 million people

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Inmate
Yes he is definitely worth reading if you are into Marxism.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Just watch Jason Unruhe's videos.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@TreeEater
CAN'T SLEW THE ROO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bewdev2fGaI

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Inmate
not really, no

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Why do so many hipsters love Mao when he was a shit writer and an even shittier theorist?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Poker_Star
cultural revolution very exciting
almost hippyish -- return to the land, just b.e. yourself, beat up your profs, etc

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Methnerd
The Cultural Revolution was probably the closest we ever got to True Communism™.

Workers and students did take political and economical control over the means of production. It was really grasroots, widespread social movement. Then they decided to engage in factionalism over who was more revolutionary and who loved Mao more and started to kill each other.

I think that says a lot about the nature of True Communism™. Even if you get your perfect worker's councils controlling everything, there is no reason why they wouldn't just engage in permanent warfare against each other.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Flameblow
The Cultural Revolution was probably the closest we ever got to True Communism™.
That would be the Khmer Rouge, my friend.

Playboyize
Playboyize

What books about Mao/Cultural Revolution do you guys recommend?

Illusionz
Illusionz

I honestly doubt Mao read much Marx.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Inmate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Guerrilla_Warfare

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Poker_Star
mao was a shit writer
you never read mao have you
mao was a true patrician /lit/erati, an excellent poet to start and a decent essayist

Bidwell
Bidwell

@cum2soon
monolingual
"true patrician"

k

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Bidwell
pleb detected

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Inmate
nah. fuck tankies.

stick with syndicalism, mutualism, actual communism, even Marxism. but don't fuck it up like tankies and MLs.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Inmate
His political writings - no. His poetry - yes.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Flameblow
The Cultural Revolution was probably the closest we ever got to True Communism™.
No, Communism was created for industrial nations like European ones not for largely Agrarian ones.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@TurtleCat
communism isn't what you think idiot hahahahah
you have socialism in mind

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@ZeroReborn
I didn't say communism had a state. I said it wasn't created or intended for agrarian societies like China. Marx wrote about western, industrial locations.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Skullbone
you should read both, but yes his poetry is good

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Methnerd
If you please, give me some bullet points on the things of value you find in his writings.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@StrangeWizard
"communism was created for industrial NATIONS"
- you
Wtf man. say unions, societies or some other shit then. Also no it's for any union with enough mutual trust to share. It was practiced in the stone age inside tribes.

likme
likme

@whereismyname
@Skullbone
reading poetry in translation

Evilember
Evilember

@Bidwell
he wasn't monolingual, but apart from that a stellar critique

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Inmate

I feel like people say he did because they don't wanna be racist.

I just found his shit to be like "Chinese style writing for Marxists".

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@likme
not reading chinese

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Playboyize
The Battle for China's Past.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Sure but remember Mao's wise words.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Inmate

On Practice and On Contradiction.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@TreeEater
@CouchChiller
Jason Unruhe is truly the intellectual we need but don't deserve. He has never lost a debate. May the dialectic bless him.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@cum2soon
core tenant of Marxism is the rejection of metaphysics through dialectics

That alone gave me a headache.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@hairygrape
thanks senpai

iluvmen
iluvmen

@likme
he fell for the meme
kek, bagged another one boys
it's always the frogposters, funny how that works eh?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@cum2soon
The little red book is trash, total pseud food

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Deadlyinx
implying i was talking about the little red book
way to project and reveal your pseudom faggot

girlDog
girlDog

@Inmate
I'm always leery of Maoists
He has some good insights on rural agrarian society, and China wouldn't be anywhere near the global power it is today without him, but he drifts too close to Stalinism for my liking.
Besides him the only other Maoist I can think of who was even remotely defensible was Ho Chi Minh, the rest of them just come off as incomprehensible maniacs

IDK i guess the Red Book has some bretty good lines in it

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

ive noticed with maoists that they tend to act like cultists. specifically they often repeat canned phrases that they heard mao or other maoists say. pretty weird group. the maoist third worldists are insane generally. maoists also tend to refer to maoism as a literal science and think its the only way for a revolution to happen.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@girlDog
Ho wasn't a Maoist and the VC never received aid from China.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@GoogleCat
I guess there aren't any Maoists I would be willing to defend

takes2long
takes2long

@cum2soon
anal water

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

maoists
i hope you all starve to death

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Gigastrength
Why?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@TreeEater
@CouchChiller
@cum2soon

Has Veeky Forums read his memoirs? They are a gripping tale of illiteracy, romantic disillusionment, and anger management issues. Truly one of the greatest authors of our generation.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@King_Martha
Yes. He admits he threatened to kill his coworkers.

Roo needs meds and/or therapy.

Supergrass
Supergrass

he killed a lot of people which is cool if you're still in high school

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Inmate
Mao was a retard so no

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@TreeEater
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD8205tTzUo

Why is this bum-puffing loser and why should I listen to him?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Mao did nothing wrong!

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@TurtleCat
No, Communism was created for industrial nations like European ones not for largely Agrarian ones.

This is exactly what Mao said himself, if you read his work. Hence why he formed his own version of agrarian communism now known as 'Maoism' after him

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Supergrass
/thread

likme
likme

Veeky Forums is a maoist board
all newfags, /pol/tards, and redditors need to get out

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Stupidasole
He isn't wrong.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Inmate

Countless phenomena of the objective external world are reflected in a man’s brain through his five sense organs — the organs of sight, hearing, smell, taste and touch. At first, knowledge is perceptual. The leap to conceptual knowledge, i.e., to ideas, occurs when sufficient perceptual knowledge is accumulated. This is one process in cognition. It is the first stage in the whole process of cognition, the stage leading from objective matter to subjective consciousness from existence to ideas. Whether or not one’s consciousness or ideas (including theories, policies, plans or measures) do correctly reflect the laws of the objective external world is not yet proved at this stage, in which it is not yet possible to ascertain whether they are correct or not.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Flameblow
@ZeroReborn
the only functional expression of communism in modern history is the Paris Commune, and even that was only kept alive by the immediate threat of the 'Other' occupying the city.

the wicked will always turn civility into strife

Inmate
Inmate

@likme
STRUGGLE SESSION

Spamalot
Spamalot

muh cultural revolution
Mao was a tyrant not a philosopher, just like most communists. It's like asking if Hitler contributed anything to German Idealism.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Spamalot
except he did you cuck
t. hardcore antifa who knows better than to be blinded by ideology and deny historical fact

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Is genghis khan worth reading?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@viagrandad
This.

Mao's contributions are great, but you won't find it in historical events like the Cultural Revolution. Mao wrote that the peasantry was THE proletariat class, and had a great understanding of dialectics. This is why he's worth reading.

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