Who are Nietzsche's strongest critics?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Who are Nietzsche's strongest critics?

Emberfire
Emberfire

Brainlets

SniperWish
SniperWish

People who realize Nietzsche had no conception of what the next 200 years would actually hold for the human experience.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Heidegger's criticism of Nietzsche (that he went all the way except for the final step, and remained in metaphysics) is the most important to grapple with. There are good arguments that Heidegger is wrong about this.

Nietzsche benefits most from interlocutors, not direct critics. Actually that's most things. A good critic is just an interlocutor that is aware he's an interlocutor.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Nietzsche

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Sir_Gallonhead
Unironically this.

Cioran took a few pleasant jabs at him as well. I guess his critique can be summed up as 'why so serious after all Freddy?'.

Techpill
Techpill

He was right about everything so just him

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Burnblaze
Heidegger

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Burnblaze

Humans.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Spengler even though he was indebted to him. By strongest you mean best articulated, right?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

What was Spengler's critique of Nietzsche?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Deadlyinx
Something about Nietzsche being gay or retarded or something. It was a different time.

WebTool
WebTool

@TurtleCat

Trash tier philosophy. Preemptively btfo by Schoppy

RumChicken
RumChicken

@WebTool
Explain

StonedTime
StonedTime

@SniperWish
what are The Last Men
Nietzsche made predictions

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@StonedTime
"Last Men" have always existed

Methshot
Methshot

@Deadlyinx
essentially too romanticist, which was in keeping with his century, although apparently less so in unpublished work
He still valued him for his deep scepticism, though. Him and Goethe were his two main influences.

SniperGod
SniperGod

His sister.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@StonedTime
what are The Last Men
A made up insult trying to make fun of lazy people because they don't abide by Nietzsche's autistic, impossible philosophy.
I'm talking about actual shit, like nuclear annihilation, 12 hour work days, and technology which can compose better music than Nietzsche ever did.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@RumChicken
Not an argument, brocacho

Booteefool
Booteefool

@StonedTime
Predictions like that get interpreted by everyone differently. I already get sick enough from all those fuckers saying we are living in 1984. And I get it, surveillance is heavy and so on and so on.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@PurpleCharger
WHAT THE FUCK
This meme needs to die so hard
Make ambitious claim
Get asked to support it
NUH UN AWGUMENT
You can't write this. Joyce couldn't write this.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@SniperWish
No you are right: Joyce taught me that the herb orbed as shitposting riverran past the garden of not an argument

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Burnblaze
Well, Aristotle side-steps him completely.

Rene Girard has a very strong critique of Nietzsche. And it's not that critical of him, Girard is correct to say that the greatness of Nietzsche lies not in his being right but in his paying such a high cost for being wrong.

Nietzsche in his autistic way wanted to be crucified for being wrong about Christianity and then have Christianity either re-invent itself or something replace it.

"Christianity is still and all the best piece of ideal life that I have really known. I have followed it since I was a child into many nooks and I think that in my heart I have never been scornful against it . 1891

"The way in which reverence for the Bible has been maintained in Europe is perhaps the best cultivation and refinement of morals that Europe owes to Christianity. Such books of death and of ultimate meaning need to be protected by an external tyranny of authority in order to secure the duration of millenia, which are necessary for their exhaustive interpretation."

"Christianity has perhaps chiseled the finest specimen of human society of all time: the specimens of the higher and highest Catholic clergy."

"If I wage war against Christianity then I am entitled to this only because I have neither experienced gloom and sadness from this direction, conversely the most estimable people i know where Christians without any falsehood in them."

"My own ancestors were Protestant clerics. Had they not given me a noble and pure sense I would not know whence my right to a war against Christianity. My formula for that: the anti-christ is himself the necessary step in the logic of the development of a true Christian. in me Christianity overcomes itself."

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Thanks

Spamalot
Spamalot

@PurpleCharger
"Last Men" have always existed
Impossible, else how are they last? The concept of the last men is not like a social version of the heat death of the universe, progress stops after them, becomes impossible, the world is spent of its agents capable of change.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Spamalot
Yeah, you're a few waltz steps away from seeing how stupid it is.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Spamalot
the world is spent of its agents capable of change
Freud BTFOd this

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Spamalot
not unlike*

Snarelure
Snarelure

me

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Sir_Gallonhead
whoa so reminds me of something Jordan Peterson said about Nietschke

Inmate
Inmate

@Sir_Gallonhead
what could replace Christianity, perhaps Niestschke would have preferred widespread study of the classics?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Inmate
Another religion. Heidegger tried to address this re Germanic neopaganism and National Socialism. Even if it sometimes borrowed from Christianity, it is always more Lutheran and rather anti-Catholic in a way.

But neither were successful in turning the tide of nihilism.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

This chick

MPmaster
MPmaster

@SniperGod
Damn, she was a qt
:3

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Inmate
Spinozism

takes2long
takes2long

@Dreamworx
Cuter than August

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Inmate
The Holy Spirit.

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