HOW did she getting away with this???????????????

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

the knight of the "sorrowful face"
HOW did she getting away with this???????????????

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CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Can you elaborate?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@PurpleCharger
What's wrong with it?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@CodeBuns
Pretty sure it was translated as "sad countenance" in the translation I read. Is that any better?

Techpill
Techpill

@Garbage Can Lid
not "wistful visage" or "mournful frontispice"
Brainletism is so prevalent these days.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Techpill
i really, really like wistful visage. mind if i release a translation using it?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@PurpleCharger
rueful figure is GOAT

Flameblow
Flameblow

@PurpleCharger

Is this the most overrated classic? Half the book isn't even about Don Quixote. It's just them meeting cuckold shepherds and then their stories take up half the book.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

What is she trying to translate? Im sure I can testify as of its acuracy

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@New_Cliche
El caballero de la triste figura

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@PurpleCharger
Came to post "sad countenance" a la @Garbage Can Lid
. It's not literal, but it conveys the same tone.

@New_Cliche
@Boy_vs_Girl
El caballero de la triste figura = The knight of sad figure.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Ritter von der traurigen Gestalt seems pretty spot on compared to that.

5mileys
5mileys

The sadboy knight

likme
likme

Learn spanish, anglo speak is garbage

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@PurpleCharger
"sorrowful face" is pretty disgusting

I would have used: The knight with the sad expression

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Techpill
that's too pretentious, your job as a writer is to make it as easy of a read as possible, not to use complicated words (unless no other words actually exist)

RumChicken
RumChicken

The knight with a face like a smacked arse

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Boy_vs_Girl
@BlogWobbles
yeah, pretty much, the original kind of plays into him being scrawny and his armor being all ragged, so not about him having a sad face but i guess it still works as a translation, and you can't really keep all the information from the original without making it sound ugly and pretentious

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@PurpleCharger
don't read translations ever ya dumbo

Soft_member
Soft_member

"rueful countenance" is the best, and more applicably correct translation, as used by Ormsby in his translation

askme
askme

@Soft_member
Rueful countenance is the best translation.
This is the best overall translation too

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Flameblow
literally the birth of all fiction in the past 4 centuries
is still referenced, alluded to, and imitated even today
"overrated"

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Garbage Can Lid
"Woeful countenance"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojdsQ5bhCeU

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Flameblow
your job as a writer is to make it as easy of a read as possible
*cough cough*

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@PurpleCharger
@Garbage Can Lid
I'm reading Jarvis and he uses "Sorrowful Figure".

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Soft_member
It sounds nice but it's not really accurate and is arguably misleading.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@StrangeWizard
Not bad.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

tfw u realise u are more ofa sancho panza than a don quixote

askme
askme

@CodeBuns
Yeah that's pretty good. English is just too clunky.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@PackManBrainlure
That's terrible as well tho

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Flameblow
@iluvmen
It is an extended satire of a dying medieval phenomenon. With the steady waning of the military knight, occuring more-or-less straight after the 100 years war and from there onwards, there was dwindling opportunity to prove one's chivalric prowess on the battlefield. But there was still a great onus on men doing as such. Both borne of and exacerbating the situation was a reciprocal cycle of romantic literature and hastiludes. Essentially, you had men who were members of a society that read endlessly this hyperbolic literature and endeavoured to emulate it as best possible. A good (autocorrected to goof, which seems apt) example is Suero de Quinones, who is actually mentioned by Don Quixote as an example of the chivalric ideal. Him and ten companions went to a bridge in Spain for a pas d'armes (think the Black Knight in Monty Python's The Holy Grail), swearing to not leave until they had defeated three hundred men-at-arms. They left, quite bloodied, not very near that number. Don Quixote is a caricature of such, ahem, quixotic real-life knights-errant.

Now, even equipped with all that lovely, interesting context I would not go back to reading Don Quixote. It's a big snooze, there's no two ways about it. Like Suero de Quinones, I made it half-way and chalked it up for a win. It's a satire of a social phenomenon that has absolutely no resonance, other than in the abstract (rise of beards, bodybuilding and steroid abuse with the decline of the defined male role, perhaps?), with the modern reader. Comedy ages badly, this a fact of life and literature. There's a reason 'you had to be there'.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I don't enjoy literature : the post - extended, uncut edition

happy_sad
happy_sad

@PurpleCharger
the knight of complicated facial features

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

*"The Knight whose melancholy resting guise at first glance causes him to appear angst-filled and/or superficially pitful but upon further examination and observance is revealed to be an indication of complex and deeply engrained unfullfillment of desires transcending perhaps not only his desolate persona but perhaps also his era and maybe even reality and human existence as a whole."*

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Spazyfool
tfw you'd rather be a Sancho Panza than a don quixote.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@PurpleCharger
Why did they translate figura with face?

The double meaning of this name is totally lost.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Flameblow
The point of the name "caballero de la triste figura" is to mock the pretentious names of the chivalric romance.

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