In the beginning was the will

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

In the beginning was the will,
And the will was the will of God.

takes2long
takes2long

GENIUS IS THE STATE OF BEING CHILDLIKE
WOMEN ARE STUPID BECAUSE THEY'RE CHILDLIKE
FUCKING HEGEL IS DUMB BECAUSE HE TAKES ALL THE STUDENTS FROM MY CLA- I MEAN BECAUSE HIS SYSTEM IS TOTALLY WRONG!
THE ANSWER TO ALL OUR PHILOSOPHICAL QUERIES IS SOME EASTERN MYSTICAL BULLSHIT I CANT EVEN READ IN THE ORIGINAL
SUICIDE IS WRONG FOR SOME REASON
what did Schoppy mean by this

iluvmen
iluvmen

@takes2long
AUtism.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

That's not what he means at all stop trying to twist it into theology

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Garbage Can Lid
no, Will is Satan, which is why we're supposed to deny our self-will and strive to be Christ-like, who is Logos.
Did you even read the book, or did you just jump straight to the wiki article?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@takes2long
Please give me ONE (1) quote from schoppy justifying each of these and I will let you pass

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@SniperWish
Every child is in a way a genius; and every genius is in a way a child.
Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish

too bored to find quotes for the rest
hegel and schopenhauer were both lecturers at the same time in the university of berlin, Hegel's lectures were always full and Schopenhauer was unpopular
Schopenhauer was well known for having a fascination with eastern mysticism

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Methnerd
So you could say that you will to be christ like?
Jesus goddamn christ christians are stupid.

JunkTop
JunkTop

In the beginning was the will of God,
And the will was the will of God.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@GoogleCat
he was interested in buddhism and stuff, because his idea of life being pain (because its an endless fighting versus urges/needs, which humans can never win) was similar to some of those we find in these spiritual concepts.

The will as the power which makes any living thing strive for food, sex etc. etc. is to be denied, but suicide would only deny the single entity (a human, who is only one irrelevenat projection of the will) which would commit suicide, but not deny the whole will-thing. To really deny the will it would take a transcendental awakening shit about the nature of life, of the will and stuff taking place. And the latter is also pretty similar to some buddhist ideas.

massdebater
massdebater

@takes2long
because you don't just cease to exist after death. That's brainlet materialist thought.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Garbage Can Lid
lol philosophers think humans are naturally good or something like what they will or desire is naturally good.

wake up call
humans are naturally awful, do people genuinely think that they aren't?
There are centuries upon centuries of evil people, how are we so unique from them lol?

Hobbes was right, humans are terrible. And I say they're terrible because of original sin.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@ZeroReborn
And I say they're terrible because of original sin.

Oh you're a Christian? Well then by all means be as edgy as you want. You can even speak in a combination of old English and Latin if you'd like.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@takes2long
Your only valid point is on his rejection of suicide, I believe it was something like "your will is causing your misery and suicide will not kill the will".
Obviously killing yourself will kill your will too.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Garbage Can Lid
thought it was the big bang init

farquit
farquit

@ZeroReborn
schopenhauer actually quotes hobbes "homo homini lupus". he thought people were horrible because they were just driven by the will

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@MPmaster
Life and death are both spatiotemporal.
The will is both spatial and not temporal.

5mileys
5mileys

@farquit
I think that was projection. The guy beat his landlady up. He was really just a bottom of the barrell personality.

Inmate
Inmate

@5mileys
hes misogynist rants are pure gold

Methshot
Methshot

@takes2long
He could read sanskrit tho.
@Methnerd
Huh?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@JunkTop
@Garbage Can Lid

Both true, or one of them is false and the other is true?

farquit
farquit

pic: arthur schopenhauer in real life

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Nude_Bikergirl
kek

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Alot of people in this thread I can tell haven't actually read his work and probably just watched a few videos on his ideas and think they know what they are talking about.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Methshot
He could read sanskrit tho
Forreal?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Garbage Can Lid
Nietzche destroyed schope in like two paragraphs.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@takes2long
SUICIDE IS WRONG FOR SOME REASON
FOR SOME REASON

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