Tfw Nick Land still hasn't responded to your email

>Harry Potter
Eugh dropped

Oh cool.

What do you think about Keynes system being based ENTIRELY on consumption? That is the only flaw in his well thought-out system.

Essentially Keynes' theories are the Quantity of Money theory on steroids, he just introduced different variables into the Quantity of Money formula and proceeded to stipulate functional employment exists.

Change individual producer/consumer variables from old free market capitalism to state/corporations, now you have our world, viola!

>What do you think about Keynes system being based ENTIRELY on consumption?
Well as I implied, I think this creates a feedback loop of consumption creation which is why we have shit like Star Wars jackets and such which people waste their money on. The system basically necessitates higher and higher degrees of wastefulness and unfrugality.

I feel that way sometimes too, as if I'm watching a story unfold and it would be dangerous for me to interact with it directly, like I would influence it and could mess something up

Lol. Imagine how /pol/ kiddies infecting Nick Land with Veeky Forums memes on twitter will affect the course of Western philosophy.

tfw society isn't based on aesthetics but powerlifting instead

you're already infected with the english meme, there's no cure for it

Are you on the right board pal

>tfw Nick Land follows you on twitter

Terrifying

Fuck you.

>He doesn't want to be a part of the Spectacle
Pleb-tier taste, if you're not the art you're just one of the masses consuming it.

Not entirely true, because I believe consuming things is important to existing, right? We could not live if we did not eat. I think mainly his economic system is valid because of its application to agriculture.

It doesn't really measure anything except certain variables though. It can help determine certain things like future output and what industries are lacking in investment... and with the investment multiplier which industries are most applicable to government investment to create more jobs. I also think this is important as well when you consider how wealth is ultimately created. It is created by what Leon Walras defines as the collective amounts of numeraires in the pockets of all individuals in a society. Walrasian economics uses Numeraires because people may have investment in different things. Depending on the future though, is key for Keynes' system. Depending on what will happen in the future, or what trends are going to occur is important to determine where the investment should go.

In addition, the interest rate is also very important, and obviously the interest rate's direction can be reliably determined from the past as well. In this way, the Federal Reserve manages the money of society.

But I digress, and I HAVE digressed. If you understand Keynes, that's all I need to know. Essentially the problem is thus: in this kind of philosophy government investment is literally NECESSARY for the society to function, even to keep the interest rate from falling naturally in certain situations he REQUIRES the government to intervene in his system. This wouldn't be so bad if they invested in the right things.

My point is, what industries is the government saving? Where is the THOUGHT PROCESS behind the industries it is choosing to invest into and create jobs. The investment multiplier just blindly looks for a net gain of jobs, it doesn't look for intellectual industries to create progress in, it looks for providing others with another meal. THIS is where your mentality comes in, essentially you are correct, by not giving due course to PLANNING where the investment will go and blindly looking for jobs, industry and trade has literally made investing in infrastructure (see the last two presidents) the most productive means of producing employment. And it has indeed produced employment.

But in the words of Freud in his 'Civilizations and their Discontent', we seem to strive after unattainable qualities like getting somewhere fast and going places quickly. That's all we think about, is trading fast. With a complex kind of economic analysis like Keynes has, it really is missing the sort of intellectual analysis and complex foray into industrial investment that it needs. Especially when the consumerist engine starts to become intellectually degrading.

I can see why he didnt respond. Shorten your shit up, that faggot Land is a schizo and in a different world, where capital rubs forever, and he does nothing but makes people weirded out, at nice forests where something is pretty

what's your GDP 1 rep max

>tfw john maus has been ignoring your emails

Is he someone that typically responds to emails?

why dont you just @ him on twitter when hes online? he had a heart attack pretty recently fyi

Well not a heart attack but still bad.

this is the right board

I'm not Nick Land, but brand loyalty exists because of imperfect information. people will reasonably pay a premium for predictability. "manchild" consumption is ordinary luxury consumption. this will exist for as long as any private person generates income beyond what is necessary to ensure the survival of himself and his dependents. At that point, he has evaded what one might call evolutionary pressure.

Your sense of competition's function and of induced demand seem a bit misguided.

I wrote an email to Nick Land about a year ago and he never replied either. I hope it's not because he thinks I'm retarded or something.

feels good to never get ignored by anyone because my e-mails are well-composed and come from a prestigious .edu address.

Tell us what you said and we can probably confirm or deny that.

t. Nick Land

I compared the writing of Nick Land and Kenji Siratori - as well as something I had written once on a spur - and which all seemed to revolve around similar themes and aesthetic vertices: schizophrenic pace and concept relation, technological horror, demiurgic near and far-future landscapes, deviant politics, eschatological symbolism mixed with hypermodernity.

When I wrote the thing I referred to I hadn't been aware of either Nick Land or Kenji Siratori, and Siratori's novels with their characteristic style appeared in the early 2000s. It seemed like an interesting case of convergent stylistic evolution... especially since it felt connected to my own psyche and neurosis, the weird shit I had wrote was sort of a therapeutic sublimation of my deep anxieties and obsessions in the tighest grip of my emerging OCD - when the noxiousness of my intrusive thoughts was too much to confront head on or with any kind of rigour, so I just bruteforced them onto a sort of terrified languagefuck to dispel myself of them, and to experiment with them.

>I'm not Nick Land
That's exactly something Nick Land would say.

idk how Land browses, but he certainly doesn't visit Veeky Forums.

I will never order crab legs again

How are you so sure?

Do you have more videos like this?

He hasn't responded to my tweet either.

He rarely posts about Veeky Forums and when he does, it always links that are already circulated around by others.
Example:
xenosystems.net/moloch-vs-kek/

Every yin has its yang bud

xenosystems.net/?s=Veeky Forums
xenosystems.net/?s=/pol/

Being afraid of actively changing the course of history should alarm you. Submitting yourself to the historical gravity of others should alarm you. You should be trying to hijack history for whatever purpose you see as truly good.
When a technological breakthrough is around the corner, its initial trajectory radically affects the course of history. A nudge in one direction means a radical change in the future of humanity. A small amount of cultural influence can result in a largely different future.
Instead of fearing your agency, you should be fearing the agency of others. It doesn't matter if you're not emailing Nick Land, someone else is. By taking a passive role you're taking a backseat. Who is driving? Where are they going?

What is this webm supposed to be saying? I've seen it a few times. If anyone thinks it's evil I would like to know why.

It's a demonstration of an entirely mechanical, computer guided process by which value is extracted from life at the cost of life.

You and others here might as well post whatever they want to tell Land right here, who knows, maybe he already answered you or would answer just like that to begin with, so it doesn't matter if it's actually Land.

For life. You truncated the equation.
Humans are more valuable than animals and are therefore right to automate the process of extracting value from them. We butcher crabs for the benefit of humans. The automation of butchering a crab is not fundamentally different from the invention of the knife. Only an insane hypocrite would hinder this human progress.
What would be truly evil is if one human decided that the rest of humanity was not allowed to benefit from this mechanical process which efficiently benefits humans at the cost of crabs.

Right but the idea is that eventually the same process may be used to extract value from humans to benefit the abstract process of value creation itself; some alien machine consciousness at best.

Sometimes doing not something changes something

i need to reach him too, what's his email

Depop?

>i need to reach him too, what's his email

nice try fbi

nah for real

[email protected]

How do you know that the overall value lost from the possible existence of a system that extracts value from humans outweighs the value lost from avoiding something that you predict might be that system? At this point there is no reason to assume that value-creating systems are ever going to extract value from their creators - an equally possible scenario is that we forever avoid technological progress to our own detriment. That detriment could be millions of times worse than the detriment caused by a system that extracts value from humans.

that's weird, he always gets back to me asap

Dude chill, it's not polemical, it was just a description of what I thought the picture represented.

he must like you desu

> tfw Nick Land has liked multiple twitter responses from me

why u lie to me

Not impressive
I'm not lying, check the contact section of his blog.

>333

Let's post things we shared with Land that he liked

yeah, fair enough, thanks—im retarded for not finding that when i was looking before

I contemplated sending a question to Slavoj, but I feel an anxiousness about it similar to that other user.
We should not contaminate the brain of a philosopher with Veeky Forums memes, but admire his serious project of re-evaluating the whole revolutionary tradition from afar.

Isn't this a /mu/ meme?

>tfw Chomsky responded in under five minutes

i email with brassier all the time. one guy i cant get to respond to me is searle

How does Chomsky get anything done with his following multiple newspapers, replying to everything and writing shit? I'm jelly.

How does Santa manage to bring gifts to children all around the world?
He doesn't.

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I remember someone else tweeted this at him and he said that was probably the only thing de Maistre said worth reading or something. There's another guy Land follows trying to push de Maistre as a proto-right-accelerationist though so he may have changed his mind by now.

De Maistre has a 'war is divine' thing which I think is akin to Land's 'war is god' thing in certain respect.

thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?s=24a504e058e2b1c06e3a08e1e4b74b66&p=791141&postcount=1

I'm not sure what Land thinks about all of this.

I emailed Tao Lin a link to a thread about him once, he answered with 'lol'.

Pleasant interaction.

send him nudes

>tfw sent Nick Land a false link with a trojan embedded in it and I got into his computer and saw his collection of r34 robot porn before he shut it down

I just have empathy for animals and fear aliens think like you about us and end up doing the same.

I'm leaving lit, why are you all such faggots?

>tfw I email nobody and nobody emails me

As it should be.

who's this cummy mummy?

well it's not like the other three hundred something nick lands want to share their address with him

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Classic.

De Maistre's too devotedly Catholic to be considered accelerationist.

do you guys think that PHILOSOPHER NICK LAND has google alerts?

how much money do i need to pay to get answers from peterson

just pretend youre a white nationalist on twitter to get a smarmy reply

if you want one on one conversatio (a single time) you need to pay 200 a month on patreon

but maybe having your question picked in a bimonthly q&a only costs 10 bucks a months!

Well I sure hope nobody on Veeky Forums does anything because I don’t want to read metamodern novels about green frogs

thats DOCTOR Peterson to you bucko *drops mic*

as a compulsive gambler the second option sounds fine enough

You don't have to eat crabs you fucking doink. Why do you people think slaughterhouses and factory farms are sustaining life? It's just making you fat and subservient, goy.

>mfw I will never know what Moldbug thinks of Brexit

w-w-why did Unqualified Reservations have to die, Veeky Forums?

I just have empathy for humans and fear other humans think like you and end up stunting human progress for the sake of crustaceans. Automation has existed for a very long time and has often been stunted by people who didn't have the hindsight of the people that came after them. But every year food becomes more available for humanity. Food affordability is one of the most important human struggles. I'm scared of getting thrown under a butcher's knife, but I know that butcher's need knives. Aliens don't exist.

wow i can't even