Stop desiring your mom!

There's no such thing as an anima

Go away Jung. there is no Anima here.

Sure there is. It's not an entity residing in your mind. It's just symbolic for what you personally associate with the feminine in your psyche. Naturally, the mother is going to be the first one to shape that in the typical household.

I don't know. It's more of a numbing pain.

She's the object forming my superego. She (superego) is unforgiving in every way possible. I guess that explains it all.

I'll try.

>desire nothing but God

if she is the object forming your superego (and i correct : the object that formed your superego) then you were probably raised by a single mom. And if she is unforgiving well she did her job. problem is that supposed to be a mans job, but my guess is that you wll survive we are living in a transgenderfluid people. i mean, i guess you are not that fucked up are you?

i meant Transgenderfluid people era.

There is no single association with the feminine, what a ridiculous proposition. Its a complex nexus any drawing from which is contingent on a sudden time and context and utterly inseperable from the vast array of other related associations.
Speaking of it as a single isolatable object is idiotic and necessarily delusional

just like a good psychotic.

You're right that she's a single mom. The thing is that a father-formed superego is more forgiving, although I forgot why exactly. Maybe because of his fear of castration? I'm definitely not a trans or anything even close. The thought of anyone cutting their dick off willingly terrifies me. I guess that's a good thing.

>There is no single association with the feminine
>Speaking of it as a single isolatable object is idiotic and necessarily delusional

I never said there was and I never spoke of it like that. In fact, I said that in the typical household the mother would be the FIRST one to naturally shape it, implying it is a culmination of multiple influences over time. Our psyche consists of multiple instincts as well, which play a role in the development process. It has many internal and external components to its formation which is transitory in nature.

Regardless, it is still something you can desire. Are you saying people can't have ideals? They can't have an ideal woman in mind? They can't form certain expectations and requirements in their subconscious based on past experiences? There is no such thing as preference to you? Relationships don't impact how you interact with others? The one that sounds like he is isolating himself in a delusional way is you.

not at all. the proper superego is unforgiving. The problem is, when your mother is doing the punishing and the desirable roles things normally get messy.Find a psychologist if you think you need to talk to someone.

>Are you saying people can't have ideals?
Depends what you mean by "ideals" the term on its own is very inspecific.

>They can't have an ideal woman in mind?
No absolutely not.
Attraction is always utterly contingent on the encounter. You might think you know what you want but what you actually respond to in practice is impossible to predict and define.
I know in my experience every girl that gave me true feelings came as a surprise, out of the left field. There is a single desire of course but to try to reduce it to simply mean "ideal feminine" is very misled in my view. The reality of desire is so much more complex

what if ur mum is fat and ugly

That's where high-testfags come from

Daily reminder that psychoanalysis is invalid and the Oedipus complex doesn't exist.

Not an argument!

Got one already. We're trying to kill my "mother" a bit since she gets me in a paralysing position where I can't enjoy anything but I also can't not enjoy. It's fucked up because a mother is the protective figure and this one had to be a punishing figure as well. (This reminds me of something I've heard about female impossibility because of the mother/whore thing. Nvm) Btw, my first post was almost larping. I had the slit throat fantasy years ago and posted it for the meme. I guess having this kind of a conversation here just seemed right so I continued.

I'm sorry.

I literally do not want to fuck my mom at all.

its normal. it gets better with time. getting rid of your mothers influence is paramount tho. Try getting a job.

If you close your eyes and let her put her warm and loving cavity around your throbbing loveless rod, you'll change your opinion.

I'll make sure to get rid of her as soon as I get my masters in a few more years. Tnx for the talk user.

literally = then you mean it...
do not want = -1
to fuck my mom < thats what
at all =-1
dennied twice bro. you did it so hard we all belive it now.

you will never get rid of her user, even if she dies you will carry her around. You just need to lower her influence over you as memory.

>No absolutely not.
lol, why not? Note that "in mind" doesn't mean "in conscious mind."

>Attraction is always utterly contingent on the encounter.
Do you into psychology at all? Where do you think attraction comes from? "The encounter"? What is that consisting of, you think? Your mind has no influence on it?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this only holds true if your first and most strong source of female affection was your mother, or if you had a distinct lack of affection from her.
If you had an okay relationship with your mom, and had your strongest form of female affection elsewhere, wouldn't this redirect your desires?

>"he denies that he want's to fuk his mom that means secretly he wants to fuk him mom"

Nice logic buddy.

Wouldn't it be great if the court system ran by your logic?
"Oh you deny that you committed the murder?
That means you secretly committed the murder!
*Bang* Guilty! Case closed"

You deny the existence of Zues? You must secretly believe in Zeus then!

I know she'll torment me forever in my mind. I meant it in a "more physical distance and less dependence" kind of way.

well if the murder case is about a person that was killed by every single one of the worlds inhabitants but every one denies it then i cant see why i shouldn't point that out.

You appear to be a stupid person, the kind who is only capable of understanding only in the most obtuse ways.

In short there is no attraction outside the encounter itself. Everything else is pure abstraction, an attempt to reify and objectivise what is always inherently dependent on particular contexts.
Desire in this sense is unknowable precisely because it can not exist in the very form in which you are trying to constitute it.
I have no idea what you mean by "Your mind has no influence on it?" the very question is nonsensical in reference to a mental experience

yeah you got it, keep going to the psychology and soon you will act like it. Good luck bro.

It's more subtle. I'd say that if you're constantly defending yourself from the idea, even when no one cares about it, then you're guilty. It's like you're trying to convince yourself more than others.

(he's a Freudian psychoanalyst)

even better, just dont let this fucking jew prolong the therapy further than you need it. once you find a way out of her influence ditch this leech.

I honestly want to fuck my mother, what now smart guy?

You need to kill your father

I could fake going to him, keep the money, buy a house, and finally move out. Perfect therapy.

Read the fucking topic. STOP DESIRING HER!

ahahaahahahahahaa. whats the point ? you would still be living under her influence. the idea is to stop depending on her financially and emotionally and live your life.

Yeah, I guess that's true. Good night user.

I don't need to do anything, buddy.

>STOP DESIRING HER!
I made the subconscious conscious, didn't I win the psychology game?

Fool'd ya, I transfered that onto my sister!
I just finally accepted that I did a transfer, and now I understand I just lived in an incestual family.

It got way better for me when I moved out. Same kind of ambivalent mother.

>didn't I win the psychology game?

No because you're getting cucked by your dad

Did you actually your sister?

Incestual means incestuous without the actual act of transgression. My older brother almost kissed her though, she told it to me recently. But now he is dead though.

The only surefire way to find out if someone is projecting is that they think everyone else is. Freud and his pseudo-pedant followers are solipsistic asses that ruined my searches for thicc milf porn with their "I literally want to fuck my own mother instead of someone else's" malarkey.

Freud invented the concept of psychological projection, you're gonna have to come up with another strategy

that sounds truly awful, user, you have my sympathy.

single mother upbringing?

>The only surefire way to find out if someone is projecting is that they think everyone else is.

But that itself is accusing all of them of projecting

>It's like you're trying to convince yourself more than others.

Interesting... so If I am not the messiah but I say I am the messiah. does that mean that I am not the messiah?
If am the Messiah and I say I am not the Messiah so that means I am the Messiah? But what good is it?
Video:
youtube.com/watch?v=rW8fDw8VzKI

I try to be objective. I would've boned my mom when she was younger, but I'm way out of her league now.

A bit of a false equivalence you have there. These people obviously care about whether or not he's the messiah. And what part of subtle don't you get? This isn't a formula in which you just put random variables. All of it has to have context.

>These people obviously care about whether or not he's the messiah

Oh yeah like Freud never cared that everyone want's to fuck their moms. If he didn't why write books defending his ideas? Why bother?

>And what part of subtle don't you get?

Ok user do you want to fuk your mom?

>Monty python

*tips reddit*

Is this bait? Please, I want to go to sleep.

He was a doctor and wanted to help people. He obviously did care. He wrote books so that he could spread his ideas and help more people.

To understand the mother-fucking meme you have to understand how people's minds develop and how unconscious works. If you're really interested you can read Freud and shitpost with more quality next time.

youtube.com/watch?v=y6s106VP3lQ
When you never start, there is nothing to stop.

>he is such an critical and abstracted intellectual he thinks others are being abstract when they state commonsense
>he can't admit the basic fact that people unconsciously gravitate towards certain types of women/men in their romantic relationships
intellectuals these days
>he wants this to be verified in a lab because he has no commonsense

I really like Freud, but I'm not sure where to go with his worldview now. After I quit desiring my mother, I was lost as to where I should go with this philosophy, so I developed a fetish for my aunt, and subsequently fought against that fetish. Now I've exhausted my supply of aunties, and have gone through most of my familial relations. It's been an awkward journey, but I feel accomplished having rid myself of such incestuous desires. Where do I go from here?

>He was a doctor and wanted to help people. He obviously did care.

Really so that makes him a saint? Dr. Mengle was a dr too you know?

That's an unfair comparison to the Honorable Doktor Mengele

Watch Fists in the Pocket

That's a low quality meme. Even normies know that Freud was just a popular culture phenomenon, and that 90% of what he said was bullshit, we only respect his legacy because of the new way of inspecting people he popularized.

>dude everyone thinks like an old perverted oven dodger honest
Why did anyone ever take Freud seriously?

someone who uses the term oven dodger wouldn´t understand

You can't properly capture the nature of Freud's """"theories"""" without using the term, honestly.
>I wanna fuck my mom and am really sexually preoccupied with bodily functions so everyone is, oy vey

>No because you're getting cucked by your dad
kek.

Om namah shivay

that doesn´t have anything to do with the influence he had on psychoanalysis and psychologie in general

>>Before I fall asleep I imagine that someone slit my throat and that I'm choking on my blood.
for many years, I imagined a hitman going into my room and shooting me in the head. now I just think of my waifu and I am happy.

wrong

Millions of people liking Harry Potter doesn't make it better either.
baka ass motherfucker

you're a fool, you have no understanding of the human mind.

Not an argument

The important thing in either case is "anima" is a stupid word which does not reflect reality

Thanks, I will!

Also the level of denial is very strong in this thread. It is actually quite revealing. It is not at all a circular argument since, if you have read Freud, you don't feel threatened for having, during infancy, desired your mother. Adolescence happens when you confront the taboo and internalize the rule, so technically, you are not desiring your mother anymore.

>pro tip: freud is irrelevant

So irrelevant you have to nervously assert this

Anyone think he's projecting hard about the mom stuff?

Depends on how mother looks like. If she is old fat fuck with big nose and a single tooth, I don't think you would fuck her.

freud was a brainlet jew that invented all sot of fallacies out of his ass
>mmm you said x is bad you are PROJECTING
>mm you said x is bad you HAVE A TRAUMA
>mmm you said x is bad YOU ARE JEALOUS

this fuck that jew unironically
i forgot
>mmm you used an incorrect word HAHAHA THOUGH LUCK M8 I WAS GONNA ADMIT YOU WERE RIGHT BUT YOU PROBABLY WANT TO FUCK YOUR MOTHER HHAHA

>"anima" is a stupid word which does not reflect reality
So where do our preferences regarding relationships with the opposite sex come from? Out of thin air?

>tfw eastern european mom who is blatently anti-semetic and has been for all my life
you merely adopted the JQ, I was born into it, molded by it.

anima corresponds to a platonic form of women/femininity in your own mind, it's more real than anything you consider real.

Did you kill him?

Nah he off'd himself with a drug overdose, after three long years of abuse.

It's interesting to see how this language reflect the anti-intellectualism of the Nazi who openly rejected "Jewish science" when it didn't fit their world views. Nazi academia built amazing rockets, yet it also fostered research on werewolf.go figure!

Why is it that whenever reactionaries don't intuitively understand something in the fist try their immediate thought is that it must all be a scheme at their expense

>"this is retarded and I'm not surprised it came from a Jew"
>U JUS DON UNDERSTAND DUMMY

It more than likely is, since you've dehumanized others in order to have that point of view to begin with.
>They are reactionaries, we can just bulldoze over them
>For progression!
Never mind that progressivism is inherently fatalistic.