Degree Dick Measuring Thread

hairygrape
hairygrape

Triple Degree of Computer Engineering, Medicine, and Actuarial Science.

What the fuck are you?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Lads, I'm two years before I end "high school" and I'm thinking of taking up a computer engineering course. Is it worth it?

Methnerd
Methnerd

Theology = God Tier

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Deadlyinx
On a serious note. I am in CE, I like it. I hope you enjoy learning math. It can be challenging, but, if you put in the work from the start you will get a good GPA and get a good job.

Look in to the unis/colleges you want to go to and look at the classes they offer for CE and see if it's something you would like to do. Btw, CE isn't mainly programming, Software Engineering is the programming one. Alot of people assume because I'm in CE I know lots of programming languages when so far I only know java.

You will be respected, alot of normies say "wow" when I tell them I am in CE.

Evilember
Evilember

@Methnerd
Can't argue with that.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@hairygrape
tfw my mate studied aerospace engineering
In a country with no aerospace industry
Yes he's unemployed. At least he can still apply to related engineering jobs and finance stuff

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Deadlyinx
refer to
@Flameblow
even if you fuck up and there is no CE industry in your country, finance will take you in because they like quantitative degrees and also you can do electrical/electronic and software if you learn some languages work.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Sharpcharm
normies are impressed if you're just a mech. eng student.

WebTool
WebTool

@hairygrape

Getting an information systems degree, planning to go into systems analysis. Can't say I've ever really given a shit about medicine or how much money you make shuffling shekels for Mr Goldstein.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@hairygrape
I assume this is in terms of 'prestige' and not income? because this is dead wrong for earnings.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@hairygrape
Mathematics undergrad here. For my master's degree, should I go for Mathematical Physics, Financial Mathematics or Applied Mathematics?

Methshot
Methshot

@Fried_Sushi
Idk, I don't even think its based off prestige.

if it was I would put law, medicine, actuary at unbelievable , engineering god, etc etc

At the bottom it says what the jobs are rated by, but, who knows.

For number of hours, pay and job security engineering, actuary and medicine would be at the top

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Garbage Can Lid
I reckon finance, be a quant and rake in fuckloads. I have no idea about any of those markets, im still in undegrad.

@SniperWish
If you say engineering, law or medicine, normies wet their pants. If you say anything business they think you are just another average kid.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Methshot
You'd think something like politician would be at the top, they seem to get away with stealing tons of money from tax payers and putting it straight into their own pockets.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Opinions on being a cpa? Im just starting the classes for the accounting major. Also i live in the silicon valley

likme
likme

@Skullbone
They are rich in influence. They have the power to move money but don'tactually possess all that much

Techpill
Techpill

@hairygrape
Petroleum Engineering
God tier
Software Engineering higher than Computer

I'm studying EE/CS and even I think your list is objectively shit.

PetroE is a fucking meme degree that is in bust right now because it's a shit overspecialized degree in a dying industry.

Software Engineering is codemonkey-tier. If you aren't Pajeet and don't hate yourself, study Computer Science instead.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Techpill
not my list, found it on internet

it's just a convo starter, calm down

I agree SoftE is codemonkey tier, my friend doesnt have a degree and he works as a codemonkey for a large tech company because he has a great portfolio.

EE/CS is great combo.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Sharpcharm
Normies are afraid of basically all engineering, from what I saw at my orientation last week. They'd shit the bed if they had to do the kind of math my school requires for an engineering degree.

WebTool
WebTool

@hairygrape
Business management
meh Tier

What?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Emberfire
Eh sorry. I get irrationally upset when people prop up shit degrees that have the word "engineering" in the name then use them as an example that "even STEMFags can't get jobs." Not that you were doing that, just that PetroE needs to die in a fire.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@BlogWobbles
Is it all you have to be proud of?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@WebTool
It is 'meh', what's so good about a business management degree/major?

Business degrees without a quantitative double are a joke and business management is a joke of a degree. Who would hire someone with a management degree?

@BlogWobbles
I hate petrolE as well.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@DeathDog
Not being hired, but for self-hiring it is good. Unless you can hit one of those high paying management jobs in big corpos.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@JunkTop
So you reckon that a big business is going to hire a recent graduate to do upper management work oppose to hire someone with a better degree that has been there for years.

Also, you don'tneed a degree to be self employed. What the fuck, why waste tens of thousands of dollars on nothing, you can open up a gym or a kebab store or an app without a management degree, the degree only remotely necessary for that would be accounting to learn cash flows and what notfor your business, but, that can be learned from the internet anyway.

Only decent business majors are finance and accounting.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@RumChicken
It's literally a dick measuring thread. That's what I'm doing.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@hairygrape
I can't decide between EE and actuarial science, the actuarial field seems saturated and it's kind of a specific major, should I just do both?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@hairygrape
Actually, with all the technology making breakthrough after big discovery in Archeology wonder if it might barely eeek into Good Tier. Lots of opportunities to find something cool with lasers. Salary won't improve though but maybe a chance to make a mark in history.

askme
askme

@AwesomeTucker
Actuarial is great. Most actuaries don't end up as actuaries, they end up in high finance/investing stuff because there is limited actuarial positions.

If you want to do quantitative finance/investment finance, it is a quicker route than doing engineering or other quant degrees.

There are LOTS of exams and what not that stop alot of kids getting through in to the actuarial society (atleast in Australia).

I was considering transfering to actuary as I got good marks in math which let me transfer in my uni, but, I just enjoyed engineering too much.

That math in actuarial is harder than the math in engineering. Also, you have to do stats in actuarial, ALOT of stats.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Firespawn
O yeah lol, when I started uni I had to do the catchup math stream because I didn't take it in high school. I rekt the exams, HD's and what not, the average mark for the final exam was a fail. This was the math before engineering, this was derivatives, integration and what not.

Normies just get too intimidated by this stuff.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@hairygrape
how much do you make

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Harmless_Venom
Just graduated. $300000 + bonus.
I do insurance modelling for doctors that give incorrect doses/misdiagnoses because of electronic failures.

Nobody else can fill this niche.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@happy_sad
You're full of shit.

idontknow
idontknow

@SomethingNew
Jesus Christ. It's a fucking joke. If you read the thread I say I am a CE student. Fuck lol.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@hairygrape
god tier
unbelievable tier
not the same tier

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@idontknow
Lol, I see now.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@askme
Actuarial is great. Most actuaries don't end up as actuaries, they end up in high finance/investing stuff because there is limited actuarial positions.

wrong must actuarial students can't pass exams, because they have no real interest in math. So they end up being non-actuaries.

RavySnake
RavySnake

MSEE master race checking in
....but i have a shitty, embarrassingly pathetic salary
....in los angeles, california.

farquit
farquit

I earned a masters degree in African American History and been searching for work for 2 years now.

Working at starbucks to make ends meet.

Really wish I took a different path and studied a useful major during school, but too late now...

viagrandad
viagrandad

@hairygrape
Epitome of suicide tier right here.
Literature & Creative Writing
I thought I had to study something in line with my grades. As I was over 21, could have studied any-fucking-thing I wanted. Didn't find out until middle of second year. Wanted to kill myself ever since.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Garbage Can Lid
From my experience at uni, there has been a higher drop out rate of actuaries than engineers.

Smart kids that take actuarial studies/science, but, as this guy says they don't actually care about the math, which there is alot of

iluvmen
iluvmen

@TreeEater
I reckon finance, be a quant and rake in fuckloads. I have no idea about any of those markets, im still in undegrad.

Yeah I see, I'm just worried that someone like Bernie becomes president in the near future and goes full commie and bans all financial derivatives.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@viagrandad
What, get a trade. Become an electrician or a plumber. Good pay, secure job, less training time and cheap as fuck.

Calm down, it's not as big a mistake as you think it is. You have an opportunity to become a tradie and make more money than the average uni graduate because there are so many uni graduates and so many of them are getting retard degrees like creative writing.

I know how you feel, I wasted a year of my life doing something stupid as well.

@farquit
I know this is bait, but, get a trade.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Eurofag
Undergrad in accounting
Masters in international taxes

Did I fuck up?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

how do you pay for school? I want to major in economics

Illusionz
Illusionz

@kizzmybutt
Planning to do something like that as soon as I can muster the cash/spare time. Was considering carpentry as I've always enjoyed it and there's tons of demand at the moment.

Been working as a chef for the past 3 years. Started as a kitchen assistant and worked my way up to sous chef but the place I was working in was no way to live. Six days a week 7am til 11pm, then they started calling me in on the seventh day as well. Running the kitchen most of the time because the head chef would make excuses to leave every single day. All that and I was being paid slightly over minimum wage (£7.15).

idontknow
idontknow

@hairygrape

Tfw graduated with Aerospace Engineer
Can't get a job in the field due to shit grades

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@idontknow
Why are you showing your employers your shit grades?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@CodeBuns

You have to in the UK unfortunately.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@hairygrape
BA Cultural Studies (Philosophy)
BSc Engineering and CompSci

Couldn't get a job.
Now doing an MSc in Biomedical Engineering and plan to start a small company. I have a viable product in mind.

To be honest I wish I killed myself years ago.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@hairygrape
Kek. Every single major thread on Veeky Forums is like that.

Anyway, I'm dual majoring in Computer Science and Economics, due to interest. I'm trying to find a good career path for this, but I figure getting as many Statistics and Data Science classes as I can is generally the way to success.

likme
likme

Pharmacist. I hate it and am trying to get into med school though.

WebTool
WebTool

@SniperWish

Nigger I have a liberal arts degree and even I could get a job. What the fuck are you STEMswaggots doing wrong for the 'STEM master race' meme to not pay off for you?

Not trying to rub it in, just genuinely curious since apparently the economy doesn't work the way Veeky Forums memes say it should.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@hairygrape
Graduated as software engineer
all I do is shitpost on /g/ all day
literally wizard tier virgin living with his mom
see all these "hip" new startups in the industry
considering suicide

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

daily reminder degree doesn't matter, only the ranking and prestige of your school

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Illusionz
Get the fuck out of that place, apply for the next starting period of carpentery.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@WebTool
What was it and what was you GPA?

I think it's because so many STEM fags have no social skills can't do interviews

SniperWish
SniperWish

@likme
What don't you like about it? Seems very comfy and good pay. Is it boring for you?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@hairygrape
geophysics on good and god tier
"college education" on good tier
wtf does that mean
anthropology business is a thing

with a cursory glance, what a shit chart

TechHater
TechHater

Got expelled in my 2nd year in Shit tier Degree (fine arts photography)
How fucked am i ?

23 years old btw

takes2long
takes2long

@Garbage Can Lid
Obvious Financial mathematics is where the cash is. It may feel cool being around accountants and being responsible for handling where money goes, but on that end money is a fundamentally boring subject. I can confirm this I'm part of the billing center development team for an insurance company. As long as you don't waste your time getting a masters in pure math lol

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@eGremlin
see all these "hip" new startups in the industry
These are all small fag-tier companies ripping off new business. I was a part of one and I know a guy whose behind a start up incubator in my city. It's literally all just faggots ripping off small business who need websites or over-inflating the utility of their app that they're lucky even made a profit.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@TechHater
need to know how u got expelled famalam

Snarelure
Snarelure

@iluvmen
SJSU? I'm applying to transfer there for finance, maybe accounting

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Stupidasole
FAFSA

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Deadlyinx
Eh, the last startup I worked with provided pretty solid and important services.

But then again they brought in millions in funding and got acquired by a multibillion dollar business as an important department within it so I suppose it was one of the few good ones.

It's literally all just faggots ripping off small business who need websites

What website design/development/deployment rates for small businesses would you consider to be a ripoff?

iluvmen
iluvmen

Why is EE higher than CS?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@TechHater
Pretty much fucked. 1.5 years in a college is basically worthless. You won't qualify for anything high quality with an expulsion on your record.

Should consider if fine arts is for you and if not then do something wildly different and sell how reformed you are.

Try Full Sail, it might get you somewhere and won't have any standards.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@iluvmen
BEcause there are so many CS grads, especially on an international level, hence outsourcing.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@viagrandad
What website design/development/deployment rates for small businesses would you consider to be a ripoff?

Not so much the rates themselves but the fact that these companies (larger non-startups being bottle rocket and thoughtworks) rely on selling their appearance as competent professionals supplying the best services in web creation, but really just send half-knowledged college interns and Prajeets to write sloppy unmaintainable code to companies who don't know any better when an experienced freelancer could do it for 3 times less the cost and write actual good code. The only difference between the two is the company logo these shitty startups can slap on to make their client feel better.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Is aeronautical engineering same tier as aerospace? It's only a difference of one class or so.

JunkTop
JunkTop

why does this shitty image keep being reposted

Nojokur
Nojokur

If youre a social retard and dont know to apply yourself whatever you study is worthless. Get over your fucking ACT score, nerd.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@hairygrape

why do you not rank law to highest when it has the highest average salary?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Snarelure
Well that's a shame.

I thought that kind of poor development strategy only existed in the enterprise software sector, but I suppose it's not surprising to see the same in webdev.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@hairygrape
caring about degrees
Stay poor

Techpill
Techpill

@Gigastrength
Yeah, what loser would discuss education. Only poor people care about what they get educated in.

@viagrandad
I didn't rank it. It's a convo starter. Fuck

@Nojokur
Not from the U.S. Projecting much? Just because I am in CE doesn't mean I am a social retard.

Methshot
Methshot

@hairygrape
people here say econ is a meme major but everywhere i look it's high in median salary around 80k.

what gives?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Methshot
Success is highly depenent on prestige of school.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Skullbone
Politician would be law, right?

WebTool
WebTool

@SniperWish
It's very stressful, you don't use any of the knowledge you were taught in pharmacy school, you don't get respect, and it makes me feel like i'm working at McDonalds again. All about how many people you can serve in a day rather than making a difference.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Veeky Forums help me out here. I'm 18 and my passions are politics, history, and philosophy. I don't even have any strong political opinions, I just love studying all of it. I also do really basic webdev shit that I enjoy, but I only recently got into this (js, html, css, php only kek).

What should I major in? I'm scared of actually touching real programming languages because I'm pretty bad at math. I also don't want debt for now reason, so I want to be more financially secure before even going near an academic type career.

Is software development/web development awful now? I don't want to be competing with rajputs and lees the rest of my life.

I wish I was good at maths

eGremlin
eGremlin

@hairygrape
accounting
below economics

I know that it looks worse when you first see it, but that shit changes once you get into the workforce.

Economics is just accounting in aggregate.

Nojokur
Nojokur

be me
didn't finish high school
went to shitty college for IT diploma
making $75k and received an offer to become a partner

Supergrass
Supergrass

@DeathDog
Okay I'll bite.

Have you got experience in running a household yourself, and budgeting for yourself? This is very important.

Don't do politics. The conditions on entering that field are shit. Very cuthroat.

Just go out and research potential fields you may work in; actually TALK to people in firms/potential employers about pay and conditions, plus what is expected of you.

eGremlin
eGremlin

English Teacher (High School)

Guess I'm "shit tier." Whatever...

mfw I do whatever the fuck I want and basically screw around all day with my students watching movies and shit
mfw I'm done at 2:00 each day
mfw the vacation time is incredible
mfw summers off
mfw summer's here
mfw hitting the beach and day drinking today

Time > Money as far as I'm concerned but Veeky Forums probably isn't the place to express such an idea

Booteefool
Booteefool

BA
JD
both meh tier
Bretty happy with my salary, so I can't complain.

@DeathDog
What kind of careers are you looking into? If you want to become an academic, it really is in your best interests to start young, especially if you want to do it in a different field than what you originally studied.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Nojokur
which IT diploma specifically?

5mileys
5mileys

@VisualMaster
what is wrong with geophysics?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@haveahappyday
network engineering, but it was pretty much a general IT course. bit of networking, windows server stuff (ad/exchange), linux, virtualisation, project management, etc.

was a waste of time imo, you can learn all this shit yourself as long as you know what you actually need to learn.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@eGremlin
i've only heard that being a high school teacher is hell. how much shit do you have to grade? how much effort do you have to put into it? how do you deal with garbage students?

Inmate
Inmate

@SomethingNew
Eh, most of my high school teachers were lazy and gave us multiple choice tests.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@likme
Im sure if they are smart enough they siphon tons of government funding into their own offshore bank accounts.

Techpill
Techpill

@hairygrape
Probably Meh-good tier degree here. Graduated 2 years ago with a degree in medieval european arts and craft (Year 664 - 812). Havent found a job yet but might get one soon so its ok

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Techpill

PETE Eng. from A&M here. This is true.
Stay away from this meme degree and do something useful with your life.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@hairygrape
Doctorate in Women's studies.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@hairygrape
I'm glad you guys put criminal justice in ok teir, there are comfy, good paying jobs to get like private investigative work. They are just difficult to get.

FastChef
FastChef

@hairygrape
mech. eng. student here
does this mean my dick is godlike?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

3/2 Program guy. Liberal arts with a focus on psychology and biochemistry/genetics with a BS in engineering.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@VisualMaster
geology and math here.
hope to get some /out/ish job somewhere in some godforsaken location

TreeEater
TreeEater

I'm doing Electrical Engineering at a not-very-well-known university (It's at least in the UT system), but it's cheap (and I got a good scholarship, I can pay for all four years out of pocket).

Is the name of the University more important than the degree? I was thinking of seeing if I can drum up enough money to go to grad school, or pursue a masters at another university.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@hairygrape
Government & Int'l Politics, currently focusing on Data Analysis, Research Methodology, and Survey Methods.

Paid internship currently at international research company with gov't contracts, they usually hire their interns. Mid-upper starting salary for the region.

Everyone says Gov't is shit but it can be as generalized or specific as you want.

TechHater
TechHater

Econ major with a software development minor...
feels good

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@eGremlin
I think econ is anove accounting desu. Accounting is pretty middle aged man making 60k doing mindless bullshit tier

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@hairygrape

G-geology/statistical analysis and simulation here.

F-fuck yeah?

WebTool
WebTool

@SniperWish

Damn, couldn't get a job with those credentials?

Man, the job market is rough in the USA is rough.

The cradle to grade job security and corporate pensions are long gone.. :(

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@TreeEater
Engineering isn't as competitive, you might not be a target school where google comes and picks from the best, but, you can still get a good job granted you have a good GPA.

You will be fine, I go to a 'meh' university, I don't even know a single person that graduated from engineering at my uni. Still got internships and what not.

Try and grab yourself as much experience as possible, offer to work for free/unpaid internships.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Sharpcharm
i hate programming, is it heavily orbited around that? ive heard of computer hardware engineering but cant seem to find it around the ohio area, should i just got with electrical engineering?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@CouchChiller
'meh' seems like the most fitting description for UTSA, I suppose. They have programs to help find work-study programs and internships, so I'm obviously going to tap into that stuff as much as I can. In the very least, it's the best university in town, so unless people have finished their degrees and decided to move here and search for internships, I think I'm good.

Experience definitely seems to be the best way to get a job, I'm most definitely looking into EE internships.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@StrangeWizard
yeahhhhh kind of. Do electrical if you don't want to do programming, it has the least of CE, CS, SoftE. The reason I picked computer> electrical is because to me programming is easy marks.

Also, in pretty much both computer hardware and electrical you will need to do some real basic programming in your programmable logic design classes and what not. However, Computer has more pure programming classes.

go with electrical, but, be prepared for basic programming using booleans (if x is true, execute this command) and other simple stuff like that.

farquit
farquit

@TreeEater
@Dreamworx
UT as in University of Texas? TI hires a fuckload of local people so look into doing internships there.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@farquit
UT of San Antonio, yup! There's a few tech companies here, but, I'll most certainly look into TI since they seem like they'd be into EE work the most.

askme
askme

@haveahappyday
I work at TI and they do have some people from UT of San Antonio. Just make sure to have a good GPA and any knowledge on microcontrollers, basic circuit design, testing etc. can potentially land you an internship at TI. To put it in perspective, TI hires over 500 interns each year so there's a lot of opportunities.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@askme
Alright. I wouldn't be opposed to moving to Dallas or any towns with a larger TI-presence for summer, and going back to my hometown for tuition.

Considering that my primary interest is in microcontrollers, and I've been learning C even before I started working on my degree, I'm hoping for the best.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@TechHater
what can you do with that?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Garbage Can Lid
I'm okay with basic, programming, honestly i feel like i could do well if i tried. but ive simply always liked hardware over software. i just cant decide if i should go for engineering in general since i got a shitty ACT score (25) and my HS GPA is meh (3.2) but most of it is because i simply don't try. im looking at going into a Econ Finance double major from a top 20 undergrad business schools, what do you guys think?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@hairygrape

Love the pic OP. I love the idea that philosophy is a shit tier degree.

Philosophy grads do the best on the GRE (as they do well in math and do the best in verbal and writing), they score the highest on critical thought exams, and it is a great major for anyone going into a professional program after undergrad.

I'd argue that most business and political leaders as well as every day well informed citizens should have a fair amount of experience in philosophy.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@hairygrape
a no degree having motherfucker. in house training from ford and im now a maintenance man instead of being on the line. make about 85k a year plus bonuses.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Lunatick
I'm not from U.S.
What I didn't mention in my posts that I am a double degree student, I'm also in finance.

Finance/Business degrees imo are more boring and it's harder to pump out the hours to get that 4.0. With business you have to memorise definitions and theories and what not that you don't apply, so it's literally just writing it all out until it's memorised, whereas STEM is alot faster to learn imo because if you understand the concept you will jsut be asked to apply that concept to a problem.

I would suggest do whatever you are most interested in, both will get you jobs. Econ finance and accounting finance are both good double majors. Would recommend if you going to a 'good' school.

How the fuck did you get in to top 20 with an averae GPA

massdebater
massdebater

@CouchChiller
I think a very large part of it is what kind of people fill up most of the classrooms.
Aspirational fuckers tend to go with the pop-engineering degrees.
The people filling up things like philosophy tend to not really be aspirational or hardworking (sorry to stereotype), but that does not mean all of them are. There are always outliers.

Philosophy is good imo (I've heard several success stories) but the kind of person that goes into philosophy with the 'right' mindset is rare.

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