Why are Nordics so pretty?

MPmaster
MPmaster

Why are Nordics so pretty?

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massdebater
massdebater

@MPmaster
They are the closest genetic stock to the Aryan God-men

hairygrape
hairygrape

@massdebater
You mean Aryan soyboi

Evilember
Evilember

@MPmaster
EWWWW

RavySnake
RavySnake

She isn't Nordic though.

WebTool
WebTool

Even though she's a bottom of the barrel autist, she's still gorgeous and anyone is lying if they say they wouldn't fall in love with a loyal, french accented, well read countryside cutie that gives them a family of glowing blonde sons and babbies

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@WebTool
Fall in love with that homely mannish bydlo?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@BinaryMan
dating 9/10 models
dating cute girls that have had life on easy mode forever and enjoy unlimited attention
constantly worrying about getting cucked
men constantly hitting on your wife when you're away until the nut finally cracks

Unless you're Charles Manson tier at getting women, don't bother with that 10/10 goddess you dream of. A homely girl who doesn't garner attention online, read retarded Cosmo articles, who cares about having babies, looking after kids, keeping the house in shape and hiking outdoors is infinitely better and like a needle in a haystack. If you want Chad babies, marry a tall girl with a mannish face, if you want beautiful babies, marry a girl whose facial features complement your own, but always pick an intelligent girl or you'll get retarded kids

Thank me later

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Fried_Sushi
ok dude im not even him but even i knwo that that bitch is fucking ugly jesus u and ur ideals bc of pol is so annoying ffs

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Arranged marriage > normie marriage

So yeah, I'd consider her.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@MPmaster
that ugly bitch? lel

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@MPmaster
Ugh...
live in Minnesota
8 out of 10 girls are Nordic

I am so tired of big titted dirty blonde women, I just want a small titted black/brown haired cutie but they are so rare here in my corner of Minnesota,

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@MPmaster
@massdebater
@hairygrape
t. americuck who's never been outside his home town and bases his world view on what /pol/ tells him

Spamalot
Spamalot

@MPmaster
where did her eyebrows go

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Fried_Sushi
Charles Manson tier at getting women
holy shit dude hahaha

massdebater
massdebater

@Fried_Sushi
20fucking18
having kids
You like to make people suffer don't you?

Skullbone
Skullbone

Imagine posting this girl as if she's anything special.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Fried_Sushi
jesus fuckin christ i hope this is some elaborate bait

5mileys
5mileys

@Sharpcharm
Dude holy duck where in Minnesota I’ll switch with you in a heartbeat

askme
askme

@massdebater
im 16 and think kids are dumb xd
When you grow old you'll want someone to be around you, not to mention that raising a kid is the ultimate fulfillment in life.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@massdebater
nordic
aryan

WebTool
WebTool

@MPmaster
@MPmaster
Expat in Norway here. This girl is--not even memeing-- firmly below average by Norwegian standards. At least in Oslo idk if she cuts it in the country side lol.

If anyone is interested I can certainly post pics from Tinder it is unreal how gorgeous like, all the girls are here.

Not even trying to be mean but OP’s girl is a plain frumpette.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Fried_Sushi
this,
looks fade
sense on entitlement does not

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@MPmaster
Ironic how you said that while posting a 5/10. Everyone knows that slavic girls are the best

@massdebater
Aryan meme
Oh dear

@WebTool
This girl is firmly below any European standards.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Spazyfool
Eh, not really imho, Lots of German girls look like her. I’d consider her pretty standard there. Definitely above average for England.

girlDog
girlDog

@Spazyfool
slavic girls
the best

Techpill
Techpill

@girlDog
How does it feel to have inferior taste, user? Slavic girls are objectively the most beautiful.

@Garbage Can Lid
Oh yeah, I heard that English girls are not really the most pretty ones, although German ones also don't beat standards. Northern European and eastern European girls seem to be the best, while western European boys seem to win it

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Garbage Can Lid
Bongs are the ugliest.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@SniperGod
I have to disagree, they, Germans and muricans have awful girls but bongs have handsome men

takes2long
takes2long

What is the chance of a conservative white girl marrying/dating a conservative and patriotic nonwhite guy?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@StonedTime
Most handsome men i’ve seen have always been american. Brits are american wannabes.

massdebater
massdebater

@w8t4u
I am yet to see half as handsome American as British. Americans are half assed Brits with awful accents. If you don't like British more you have objectively bad taste or/and are murican yourself

Inmate
Inmate

@massdebater
retard spotted

Methshot
Methshot

@massdebater
AMericans are bigger and somehow more masculine, more charismatic, more confident and easy going, and more handsome. Brits are skinny and hairless and shy and just weird faces. Like somehow there are similarities between french and brits. And both are different compared to americans. Idk, i guess living outside of their native land, it makes them less and less white, which surprisingly makes them more attractive.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Methshot
yES but the British are the original peoples to inhabit this earth , thus everybody is a descendent of us.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Methshot
Maybe they are bigger and fatter, but British have a lot better masculine traits, are more polite and intelligent, more confident and handsome. Americans are fat neckbeards and rednecks while British are good looking men. Americans are not attractive at all, I'm yet to meet any good looking one while I met dozens of attractive British, and I'm talking about usual citizen, not movie star. Also best men have hair where it's needed, not all over back and stomach and chest, if you love hair so much, go fuck a monkey

TechHater
TechHater

@massdebater
This guy has a point. I you want to have kids, you'd better make them into warriors. If you and your wife aren't warriors already at the moment of conception, if you don't live a sane, secluded life somewhere in the countryside, if you don't have the strength and intelligence to prepare them for what is to come, your children will suffer a horrible fate. The future is dark, don't bring children into this world irresponsibly.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Carnalpleasure
That’s not true, humanity originated in africa, before we migrated to different parts of the world

@TalkBomber
That’s why they’re handsome and masculine you fool. The big strong rednecks, a LOT of them are good looking. Maybe you’re british. But i’m not american. Rednecks are so dreamy. Brit boys look like they smell too good

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@TechHater
LOL are you an introvert with social anxiety? It’s just comical how LOTR wannabes are the lowest tier of men.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@PurpleCharger
I'm not British. I like real masculinity, shape, character, voice, not pseudo masculinity like overgrown body due to fake full of meds food and big, fat necks made red under the sun. I like men who have their stance, who speak clearly, who are intelligent and have strong eyes and accents. I don't need a pile of meat for masculinity, I need a man who looks beautiful but acts masculine

Also, humanity didn't originate from Africa, there are many studies that have proved that false

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@GoogleCat
LOL what the hell is any of that supposed to mean? We are facing a global economic collapse that will go hand in hand with civil unrest and subsequent further destruction of the ecosystem - your children will suffer this war or the aftermath of it, especially if they live in the city - this is not a joking matter.

farquit
farquit

@Nude_Bikergirl
YEs, and any economic issue is rooted in government regulations on the free market. The free market should be free and governments should be abolished. The movement of money and people should be voluntary and organic/natural.

Also caring about children is one of the most insincere excuse i’ve ever heard. Just say that you hate us shitskins, no need to force yourself to believe in fantasy morality like “the future of my children”. I mean, do you really care about them? Don’t talk about future children if you even struggle with women. I’m sure you don’t believe in meritocracy, you background check really hard, well i do too, and i do background check on you, before i judge your arguments.

Yes i’m a shitskin. Do i matter now? I don’t think so.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@farquit
What the heck are you on about? How can you not care about the wellbeing of future generations? How can you not care about the wellbeing of your offspring? That kind of mentality is what brought us to where we are right now - two generations of living for the moment, spending as one sees fit, saving nothing for old age or one's kids, putting all one's faith in technological progress as society decays, trusting one's future to the "experts" instead of trying to build a society that could exist in peace and prosperity for eternity from the ground up. Also, what's up with calling yourself a shitskin?

likme
likme

@farquit
completely unregulated market is best market

why do people still believe this
the profit motive unregulated will sell you mom into slavery if its makes money. The "market hand" or whatever its called doesnt give a flying fuck about people and only wants growth without thinking about the long and short term consensuses

how the fuck would that make a better society
god you Americans are a puzzle to me, but hey good luck with a totally unregulated market with monopolies, terrible working conditions and an so skewed distribution of wealth that people live on different planets.

it will be Americas demise

also Norwegian chicks are nice but dress shitty, danish girls however nom nom nom

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Bidwell
JUSt tell me honestly: when did the last time you have sex, and what do you usually jerk off to?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@StonedTime
are u retarded? germans and americans look way better than bongs. nice try, mohhamed

Playboyize
Playboyize

@kizzmybutt
27 Years
Pictures of cacti

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Bidwell
jesus christ

Techpill
Techpill

@likme
The movement of money is voluntary. And what happens in independent trade between two entities, shouldn’t be interfered by anyone or anything. People have the right to like what they like, and no theocratic dictator should decide what the people can/can’t like. Free market is moral, and your version of morality should only govern yourself.

monopolies
There’s no such thing, you statist fuck. The only monopoly there is, is when the government is doing it. When the government is the only one allowed to make railroads, or roads, or electricity, etc etc how is that NOT monopoly you stupid keynesian fuck? Private monopoly is best monopoly. It’s when the people actually decide who’s gonna monopolize (or dominate the market share). The one monopolizing is the one that people actually like. If the people stop liking them, they’ll stop dominating/monopolizing. Are you seriously this clueless about economics?

muh distribution of wealth
Just worry about your own distribution of wealth.

Methshot
Methshot

@Techpill
idealism, the post

Methnerd
Methnerd

@likme
terrible working conditions
Let me tell you something you stupid commie fuck: companies make good working conditions NOT because of government, but because of competition. Because they don’t want their best workers to move out. Because they want to attract more workers in their company. You don’t even essentially need government at this point

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Methshot
Just refute it you low IQ subhuman. If i’m fundamentally wrong or infeasible, it should be easy for you, right?

Evilember
Evilember

@Bidwell
Because i’m a shitskin and you will not take me seriously just like any other alt right idiot

And no i don’t care that much about the kids i’m yet to see. I don’t have kids at the moment, i don’t see them anywhere, so i don’t see how i could feel any kind of emotional attachment with someone i’m yet to meet. I don’t care about some stranger of my race, i didn’t grow up with him, how am i gonna have some sort of solidarity with them?

Flameblow
Flameblow

Why do people keep having the same discussions about politics that way smarter and educated people already had?

Also Dutch women are the best looking of all.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Most attractive women : spanish
Most attractive men : turkish

No i’m not white so don’t call me a cuck. (Somehow it’s immoral for whites to admire beautiful nonwhites)

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Techpill
political discussions on the internett
yupp fuck this, it will be a waste of time
enjoy the decline of america based on the ideals you push

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@TalkBomber
I’m not pushing multiculturalism. I’m pushing freedom of association. I think if a white person wants to make friend with a nonwhite immigrant, their friendship is legit and both “race traitors” shouldn’t be gassed. Like what the alt right believe

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@SniperGod
Actually you know what

Most attractive women : jewish
Most attractive men : spanish

StonedTime
StonedTime

It doesn’t matter really, as long as they smell good.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@PackManBrainlure
He didn't say you're fundamentally wrong, he said you're an idealist, which is obvious from your post. You deduce the superiority of the free market from some nebulous moral code.
shouldn’t be interfered by anyone or anything
the right to like what they like
no theocratic dictator should decide what the people can/can’t like
Free market is moral
Whether you're correct or not, you're obviously an idealist.

@Evilember
I'm not alt-right, I'm not even American. Furthermore, you don't have a skin colour on Veeky Forums, you are what you post. I don't really care about your ethnicity but the passive-aggressive self-deprecation with which you call yourself a shitskin is worrying, though not as worrying as your inability to empathise or to recognise the responsibility you have toward future generations.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Poker_Star
British > Germans > Americucks

Also I'm a white non British girl but nice try, Jamal

TechHater
TechHater

@SniperGod
@LuckyDusty
>>13067789

most attractive women: Slavic
Most attractive men: British

eGremlin
eGremlin

@SniperGod
@LuckyDusty
@TechHater
Those are just like your opinions, men...

FastChef
FastChef

@eGremlin
Yeah, and we are sharing them

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@CouchChiller
They’re all feasible and rational. Therefore not idealistic. Idealistic would be marxism, pure fantasy dream.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Stupidasole
You were nonetheless arguing from a moral idealist perspective. Idealistic is not just a synonym of unrealistic, an argument can be idealistic without necessarily being unfeasible.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Reminder that you'll never have a chance at this if you're not white

likme
likme

@farquit
The movement of people should be voluntary and organic/natural.

God no

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@SomethingNew
implying white women don't belong to BBC

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@SomethingNew
you have to be white to get a girl straight out of a BLACKED video

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Fried_Sushi
Wise words

massdebater
massdebater

@MPmaster
pic unrelated I presume?
also 'nordics' are the most boring looking people in the world but maybe that's thanks to our culture being oversaturated with this look

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@takes2long
depends, what type of nonwhite are you?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Gigastrength
implying that white women belong to anyone but white men

@PackManBrainlure
She fucked a nigger only because they paid her lmao

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@TalkBomber
implying white men are good for anything other than the cuck shed

little white dicklets when will they ever learn

Lunatick
Lunatick

@massdebater
ethnomasochism the post
Boring how? Would you rather they have brown skin? Brown eyes?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@WebTool
french
nordic

SniperGod
SniperGod

This thread is so problematic and that's not OK. I am Pakistani Muslim and are as much as a Westerner as everyone else here. This thread smells of insecure white racists who should all just like kill themselves.

This is why the fashion industry needs more diversity, to associate whites with beauty is wrong, there is nothing more beautiful than a brown person. That's why whites get a tan LOL XD

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Lunatick
read the other part of the post: oversaturation. it's become sort of the 'default white person' look to the point where every blonde with blue eyes look nearly identical to me

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@massdebater

It's only boring to you because that's what you see every day if you live in Northern Sweden or something.

People don't want to admit it but these are the most sought after features in the world. Black and Asian women try to appear white and some go to extremes with it (hair straightening, surgeries).

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@eGremlin
They are the most boring people in the world compared to whom? Where in the world are they more "interesting"?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@eGremlin
Look at finns. We look like mongols.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@SniperGod
Pakistani muslim
westener
I hope this is a joke sandeep, go back to your shithole.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Stupidasole
finns are a nice variation on the blue eyed blonde though because of their cheekbones

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@MPmaster
Take this to /pol/ please.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Illusionz
I hope this is a joke sandeep, go back to your shithole.

Racist! If you were not such a coward hiding behind the internet I would report you and have you charged with a hate crime. Hitler isn't cool, OK?

Inmate
Inmate

yeah, they look frail and victims of the environment.
plus they've got predisposition for being soyboi sjw cunts

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Inmate
he thinks that is what the average muslim girl looks like

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Methnerd
I lived in Lebanon and my mother is middle eastern. my sister looks like that except the eyes. and screw the aestethic part, middle eastern girls are more lively and redpilled than eurocucks

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Flameblow
tells whites not to be attracted to their own kid
is attracted to their own kind

Lol. Moron.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@CodeBuns
Meanwhile whenever white women get a nose job they always file their big high nose down and get a button nose that looks more Asian. Grass is always fucking greener on the other side cunt nugget.

Someone post that collage of busted ass mid 20s white bitches who all have crows feet and shit. Meanwhile Asians look 30 when they're 50.

TechHater
TechHater

@Need_TLC
I'm a white female. Also pic related, it's you.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@SniperGod
@Garbage Can Lid
0/10 bait

@Flameblow
anon never met eastern European girls part 1

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@CodeBuns
a quick scroll through instagram will show you that white girls increasingly want to appear more 'coloured' than they are

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@TechHater
LARPing as a girl on a Mongolian Etch A Sketch website

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@PurpleCharger
You mean let 56% American girls? They are already not white

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@CodeBuns
I want you to tell me with a straight face that more people get their lip size reduced than increased, and get their butt size reduced than increase. If you can ironically say that then I'll agree that people want to look white

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Fuzzy_Logic
You wish I was larping, Jamal. My white boyfriend has a bigger cock than you would ever dream to have with your half developed monkey brain

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Stupidasole
Only whores do that, and they don't even count as humans

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Stupidasole

I am only talking about people who are of middle or high economic and social status, so the people who I only associate with on my day-to-day live. White trash who try to look like Kim K don't matter to me.

There's no white women in this category who racemix apart from very rare exceptions. Exceptions could be the male being an successful athlete, model or MD.

5mileys
5mileys

@Evil_kitten
This. Educated and middle class+ white women don't race mix unless they are public figures that don't care about anything

Inmate
Inmate

@Nude_Bikergirl
@Evil_kitten
moving the goalposts

idontknow
idontknow

i wish this board had better janitors

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Inmate
White people want to look white. Whores want to have porn bodies.

Inmate
Inmate

@TurtleCat
but user, all women are whores.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Inmate
Love me some conservative virgin whores

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Spazyfool
Can tell you are a virgin just from the fact that you think instagram pics are comparable to this one. Neutral angle with zero makeup and filters, go ahead and deliver.

askme
askme

@Evil_kitten
I'm not a virgin. And even though I never use makeup or filters I look 2 times better than the ugly ass cow OP posted.

likme
likme

@askme
Nice psychosis

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@likme
Good to know that you are so positive about it, although you should seek help

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Flameblow
my mother is middle eastern
and your father?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@likme
I feel like since she came from the barbados to america that her skin got lighter due to the colder weather, also since people in the carribean look up to america theyre going to have want to achieve the western-like beauty, just look at some east asians

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Dreamworx
ok incel.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@haveahappyday
incel

I'm a girl.

likme
likme

@MPmaster
t. nordics

...back to /pol/ inexperienced fool.

Methshot
Methshot

@iluvmen
Very easy to prove with a time stamped pic.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Methshot
Yeah.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@BlogWobbles
girl with dick

We all know that fa slowly turns into gay.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@StrangeWizard

Are you retarded? That's not how it works. You think black as night -somalis go brown in Sweden or something?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@BlogWobbles
not posting face
You think twink hands and a potentially padded bra cuts it on Veeky Forums? Lol
Gtfo

girlDog
girlDog

@BinaryMan
You wish I had a dick

@Need_TLC
You are an idiot if you think that I dumb enough to post my face on this creepy russian clock maker site

5mileys
5mileys

only retarded autists with strange racist beliefs prefer nordic women over mediterranean women

Inmate
Inmate

@Stupidasole
You're both wrong.

Skin does go lighter even if not very noticeably the farther from the equator you get. This is NOT because of cold weather but because of less SUNLIGHT. In Riahnna's case coming from Barbados, she definitely would be getting less net sunlight year round.

It's possible to be significantly lightened. Riahnna wasn't super dark to begin with so maybe more noticeable. A super black person wouldn't become super light but skin lightening to some degree at higher l latitudes is very much real.

Methshot
Methshot

@MPmaster
Pretty sure she's occitan...

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Inmate
Im not saying its particularly cold but im saying its colder weather so im not wrong
@Stupidasole
And thats not even what im saying rihanna in thagt pic didnt drastically have her skin color go lighter 5 shades so that analogy doesnt even make sense.. Plus when you adapt in a weather longer enough you evolve to be a darker shade so even if our in a cooler environment u might still be p dark so ur stupid for that example

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

i'm a poster child for the nordic ubermensch look but my main girls a caramel thotty

white girls are gross my dude, thick & brown is where its at

@5mileys
also this

StonedTime
StonedTime

@likme
Dont post that dumb pixelated flash photography shit in the 'after', Rihanna tends to maintain a warm tone of beige and always tans in the summer. Her skin tone varies, but as a rich celeb who vacations year-round I'm sure she looks different at different times.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@PackManBrainlure
@5mileys
thick & brown
I prefer my girls not to be literal shit but I guess I shouldn't kinkshame

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Stupidasole
literal shit
literal

kys

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Stark_Naked
There is no shame in liking stuff normal people find gross. Don't worry

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@massdebater
@w8t4u
Do you know what the word literal means?

moe anime posting

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Techpill
The one monopolizing is the one that people actually like. If the people stop liking them, they’ll stop dominating/monopolizing.
Are you seriously this clueless about economics?
how much do you lack self-awareness

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Sharpcharm
Do you know what the word exaggeration means?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@BinaryMan
What is your point? What are you trying to refute here?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Burnblaze
What if southeast asian?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Supergrass
Do you have any actual real life examples of
The one monopolizing is the one that people actually like. If the people stop liking them, they’ll stop dominating/monopolizing.
happening
Cause there are instances where it doesn't work like that at all, first things that come to mind are ISPs in United States and Steam in gaming, people have basically no options due to the market hold they have in their respective fields and how massive money investment it would take to actually compete in the field.

Techpill
Techpill

@MPmaster
t. nordics

StonedTime
StonedTime

@BlogWobbles
Where's the dong??????

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@StonedTime
I don't have one

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@ZeroReborn
post legs plz

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@ZeroReborn
Get the fuck out then

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Lord_Tryzalot
PEOple can decide NOT to buy them. So what, if i suddenly decide to CLOSE my company and move it abroad, should i be arrested then? It’s my own money.

Isn’t it funny? “It’s your money but you HAVE to do it our way”. Like, so if i’m guilty for not making products the way people want, because i’m the only one producer, what if i decide to just stop doing business and providing internet for americans? Should i be arrested for it? See the loophole now?

You have that leftist mentality. Like, at some point of my life when i become successful, suddenly you’re entitled to my products. Like it’s “”your right”” now. “People are free to use their hardearned money to build a business that they’re passionate about, and they’re free to succeed or fail, but when they become so successful, their money becomes ours and they should adhere to what we want them to be and their properties become common good”. Fucking leftists.

Something doesn’t become right only because it provides you instant pleasure. The fact that the ISPs thing is making you feel uncomfortable, that doesn’t make it fundamentally wrong. Democracy has been used to enforce the very wrong desires of people. Guess what, make more of that regulations and you’ll see the downfall of entrepreneurship in your country.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Stupidasole
It's not /b/, you fucking faggot.

@Fuzzy_Logic
Nope, I already proved that I'm a young not fat girl so I don't really have any interest in posting more

takes2long
takes2long

@King_Martha
How the fuck did you read any of that from my post
My point was you can't compete against those businesses, if people want service they aren't free to choose their ISP for example in lot of instances in US
Guess what, make more of that regulations and you’ll see the downfall of entrepreneurship in your country.
Well no, I live in a socialist wonderland and I'm very much free to pick my ISP from I think at least 6 different companies who provide the same service and we have some of the cheapest internet in the world.
Just recently saw advertisement about new company entering the ISP race too, good for them, bad for your theory.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@King_Martha
@takes2long
And you didn't actually provide any real life examples of that, it's easy to make up ideal imagined situation to make a point, doesn't actually mean it works like that in real life.
Like how communism is all great and utopia theoretically but turns out it's a living fucking nightmare in practice.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@MPmaster
t. nordics

King_Martha
King_Martha

@SomethingNew
implying she's not average

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@takes2long
WELL if you can’t compete maybe you’re not that good and people don’t like your products enough and people should be free to decide what they want to like

Like i said, something doesn’t become right only because it feels good for you. It’s not fundamentally right to regulate businesses. Without regulation, businesses will be even better. For real world examples, remember who made the best products you ever used, the government, or the free market?

You live in a communist hellhole built on unfairness and degeneracy. Socialism IS communism

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Carnalpleasure
maybe you’re not that good
Or maybe the market has made the conditions as such that it's impossible to even compete
It’s not fundamentally right to regulate businesses
Well you don't explain this either, just because you say so doesn't make it not right.
Without regulation, businesses will be even better.
Then explain the US ISP situation compared to what we have, there is lot more regulations here yet the prices are cheaper and I'm free to choose from plenty of providers doesn't really matter where I live in the country.
For real world examples, remember who made the best products you ever used, the government, or the free market?
Again not actual concrete example.
You live in a communist hellhole built on unfairness and degeneracy.
Then how come it seems to me that in the example I mentioned, the ISPs, the situation is actually lot better and, dare I say, more free here than it is in the land of the free?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Burnblaze
Or maybe the market has made the conditions as such that it's impossible to even compete
How is that their fault? They didn’t force you to spend your money on them you stupid fuck.

Well you don't explain this either, just because you say so doesn't make it not right.
That is already an explanation you dumb nonamerican

Then explain the US ISP situation compared to what we have, there is lot more regulations here yet the prices are cheaper and I'm free to choose from plenty of providers doesn't really matter where I live in the country.
They’re wrong and i fully support Trump on abolishing net neutrality. Yes prices are cheaper but it doesn’t mean that it wouldn’t be, without regulation. Yes you can choose, what’s your point here? How is free market not letting you to choose?

Again not actual concrete example.
That is concrete already. Everything that you have nowadays is the products of the free market. Iphone, H&M, etc etc. is any of them government issued? Government can’t produce good stuffs because they don’t face the risk of bankruptcy. No matter how dissatisfied you are towards the government, you’ll always pay them every year.

Then how come it seems to me that in the example I mentioned, the ISPs, the situation is actually lot better and, dare I say, more free here than it is in the land of the free?

Better? If government accomodate you to steal, them stealing would be morally good for you. Because it’s comfortable for you. Why do you think companies treat their employees really goodly? Government regulation? No, competition. Because they don’t want their workers to move to another company.

My theory is right to me because it’s logical and feasible. Your theory is right to you because it gives you good stuffs. My parents could have spoiled me and i didn’t have to work, and i could say that being spoiled is morally right because i live in a very good condition.

Socialists are stupid but i’m not surprised

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Burnblaze
land of the free = free shit everywhere
Lold at your thirdworldness

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@MPmaster
Isn't that Varg Vikernes wife who's like 20 or something?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Evil_kitten
Yeah, and she isn't even nordic.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@viagrandad
t. nordics

massdebater
massdebater

@Burnblaze
@Gigastrength
@takes2long
@Lord_Tryzalot
@BinaryMan

tfw i have a house that i rightfully own, then someone comes in knocking to seek shelter for a week. I said yes but you have to pay. He says yes. Then i tell him to take his shoes off in my house but he says i’m violating his FREEDOM to wear shoes. Tfw.

idontknow
idontknow

@Garbage Can Lid
How is that their fault?
I'm not saying it's anyones fault, I'm saying completely unregulated market doesn't work the way you want to, very idealistically, say it does.
That is already an explanation you dumb nonamerican
Then it should be easy for you to explain why you think it's true right
It’s not fundamentally right to regulate businesses
So why is that?
what’s your point here
That the free market in the US regarding this specific example has created situation that clearly does not work the way you explained free market does, the situation hasn't fixed itself because people don't have a choice and competition is impossible.
That is concrete already.
It's not, you didn't offer an example where one could compare the situation.
Your theory is right to you because it gives you good stuffs.
If you go back and carefully read my posts I don't actually have a theory, I'm just questioning what you are stating here cause it doesn't seem logical to me as there seems to be plenty of examples that go against it. Also if you are implying capitalism works on logic in general that's just plain wrong, pic related is pretty good read for example.
@Harmless_Venom
But user that's not what I said at all, it's not really fair to put words in ones mouth so you can make a point now is it?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Evil_kitten
Wtf he's legally louis cachet now. Lol

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@idontknow
I'm not saying it's anyones fault, I'm saying completely unregulated market doesn't work the way you want to, very idealistically, say it does.
Then why should the business exist on the EXPENSE of the business owners? You hate monopolies, you think it’s unfair for the incompetent ones to NOT win, but the real winners that got the rewards that they deserve need to be punished for it, by limiting their freedom to organize their own business. It’s like you’re blaming the winners for not letting the losers win. Do you realize how idiotic that sounds?

So why is that?
Because why do they need regulation?

That the free market in the US regarding this specific example has created situation that clearly does not work the way you explained free market does, the situation hasn't fixed itself because people don't have a choice and competition is impossible.
Prove me on how absolute free market hurt the economy. Also people do have a choice to spend or to not spend their money. Your theory is full of fallacies. You imply that running MY OWN business in a way that doesn’t adhere to the way people wanted is a crime, so it should also be a crime if i CLOSE my business then? It should be a crime to quit my business and move the money to China then? How do you think it’s justice to arrest someone for quit doing something that he started with his own money? How do you justify that?

It's not, you didn't offer an example where one could compare the situation.
I did, after that. Read

If you go back and carefully read my posts I don't actually have a theory, I'm just questioning what you are stating here cause it doesn't seem logical to me as there seems to be plenty of examples that go against it. Also if you are implying capitalism works on logic in general that's just plain wrong, pic related is pretty good read for example.
What example? If it’s not logical then you should be able to refute my logic. You haven’t. Your “example” is not relevant.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@idontknow
dude give up, they're so in trenched in their ideas that nothing here would persuade them otherwise. Nor are they actually interested in debate, the fact that they through personal insults at ever corner and cry COOOOMMUNIST at every opportunity and come with retarded examples like @massdebater
show's how futile this argument is.

basically their point of view:
free market is best market, the invisible hand will regulate all and dot worry
yet they ignore all the consensuses of this and stubbornly insist that the free market completely unregulated is the best and everything else is basically communism. financial crisis? naaah dont need to regulate banks. Enviromental issues? its the markets interest to keep the environment clean (yeah thats going great isnt it) Social issues? all poor people are lazy its their fault.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@TalkBomber
Then why should the business exist on the EXPENSE of the business owners?
I highly doubt that's the case, it's just that they have monopoly so they are free to ask outrageous prices, they are well aware actual competition isn't possible in the current system and they use that, it's not really a good example of free market fixing anything or working as intended.
You hate
Again, there is no need to assume what I hate or don't hate, I'm just questioning your idealistic views.
Because why do they need regulation?
Because it's easy to exploit unregulated market in a way again doesn't have much to do with the capitalistic dreamland you originally wanted to present it.
Your theory
I don't have a theory m8, it's not that hard.
so it should also be a crime if i CLOSE my business then? It should be a crime to quit my business and move the money to China then? How do you think it’s justice to arrest someone for quit doing something that he started with his own money? How do you justify that?
See, you stated all this, I never said anything the like. But you yourself stated your 'theory is logical' why would you ever close a business that is doing good, that's not very logical.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Tell me:

How will the free market keep companies from polluting the environment and harming the health of people long term?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@VisualMaster
financial crisis? naaah dont need to regulate banks
People can choose to not save money in those banks
Enviromental issues? its the markets interest to keep the environment clean (yeah thats going great isnt it)
Let’s look at it this way: imagine Coca Cola is being harmful towards the nature. People know that. Yet they keep buying Coca Cola’s products because they don’t care enough about the nature to actually boycott Coca Cola. But you think they still deserve clean air and the government should force companies to be environmentally friendly despite the people kept buying their products? You’re acting as if the government is its own entity and is separated from the people’s aspiration, but if you think they’re not separated from people’s aspiration, then they shouldn’t make such regulation, because it doesn’t reflect people’s consciousness on nature.
Social issues? all poor people are lazy its their fault.
So it’s my fault?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@DeathDog
I highly doubt that's the case
Let me ask you again one more time: if selling my products the way i wanted is a crime (because if i violate regulation i would be jailed), because it makes it difficult for people to buy my products, then if i just sell my company and fire 500 people to the street, it should also be a crime? Because then people would also be not able to use my products, because i decided to stop running my business. Should i be jailed for quitting running my business?

Again, there is no need to assume what I hate or don't hate, I'm just questioning your idealistic views.
So you don’t hate monopolies?

Because it's easy to exploit unregulated market in a way again doesn't have much to do with the capitalistic dreamland you originally wanted to present it.
How do they exploit it?

I don't have a theory m8, it's not that hard.
You have a stance. You can stand against what i believe, because you have your own stance and i’m challenging that.

See, you stated all this, I never said anything the like
Yes but you IMPLIED it. So you believe that running my business in a way that makes it difficult for people to buy my products is a crime, but closing my business which would even take their internet away from them completely, should NOT be a crime?

But you yourself stated your 'theory is logical' why would you ever close a business that is doing good, that's not very logical.
If business is doing good, then it means people are buying it. If people spend money on my products, it means people value the products that they got from me more than the $200 that they spent for it. It means they’re happy. Why should it be regulated? Because bureaucrats need money too, that’s why. You’re defending corruptors, my guy.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@BinaryMan
If people care about environment, they would stop buying from the “evil company”. If they don’t and keep buying from the evil company, why do you think they should deserve clean air?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@cum2soon
You have a stance
I don't
I don't know how many times I have to repeat myself, I'm just questioning your views, I'm not standing against anything either, very american of you to make this such a binary me vs you thing to be honest.
you IMPLIED
Go read my posts again, I never did such thing, you just wanted to assume so because you could then make a inane point attacking what you supposedly assumed was my stance. But it wasn't cause I never said such thing.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@whereismyname
oh god you're dragging me into this

not gonna use my time to answer you're critiques but dear fucking christ you have to stop putting you're words into other people mouths

Social issues? all poor people are lazy its their fault.
So it’s my fault?

i never implied or said anything like that you fucking man child.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Bidwell
why do you think they should deserve clean air

What about all the people who care about the environment and boycott bad companies but still have to suffer because others don't care? What if that bad company is producing a necessity and poor people can't afford to buy the environmental friendly alternative? What about all the people who are born and have to suffer because of the bad decisions of the previous generation?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Bidwell
so it won't, in other words

deserve clean air

this post was definitely written by an american

RavySnake
RavySnake

@kizzmybutt
@hairygrape
long post of no argument
Good job

@Deadlyinx
Why do you think the majority consensus should bow down to the minority consensus? It’s almost like you don’t believe in democracy.

What if that bad company is producing a necessity and poor people can't afford to buy the environmental friendly alternative?
It’s their service and they can do whatever they want with their service no matter what you think about them. You can also spend your money on anything no matter how companies say or think about you. Also, what if those companies stop producing stuffs and moving their business elsewhere? Should they be arrested for quitting running their business that was started with their own money?

What about all the people who are born and have to suffer because of the bad decisions of the previous generation?
Whose fault is that and why should other people have to be expensed for it?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Flameblow
Not an argument

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@RavySnake
Good job
See, you never answered any of the things I made in my first post so I don't know how much 'arguing' about anything will really gain me anything at this point.

TechHater
TechHater

@RavySnake
long post
lol

im critiquing your manner of arguing in which you entirely ignored and came with a satirical remark instead

good job.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@ZeroReborn
see
@VisualMaster
itoldyouso

politics on Veeky Forums is more about being a dominant asshole than having the having an actual debate. This dude is way more concerned with being right that actually debating anything and a complete waste of time.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@MPmaster
You tell me OP

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@BunnyJinx
Yeah I suppose, I just wanna give people the benefit of doubt, I wanna be proven wrong.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@ZeroReborn
I have, you thirdworld scum. You failing to comprehend it doesn’t mean i haven’t addressed your shit

@TechHater
Just realize that no amount of nonarguments can weaken my argument

@BunnyJinx
Lol i have provided my arguments, lad. We’re both equally dominant here, because this is not a face to face debate. I couldn’t and didn’t interupt you, therefore i wasn’t being dominant, we spoke in turn.

Also dominance in a man is desired and shouldn’t be ashamed, you marxist fuck

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@StrangeWizard
You have been proven wrong big time, my smartass progressive beta guy.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@StrangeWizard
a healthy exercise in order to not turn into a blind idealist *choff choff* and to challenge one's own views.
but it should be done irl and in as calm manner as possible were you focus on a theme rather than going in all different directions like this.
while here its all over the place, in an aggressive manner with lots of personal insults

Spamalot
Spamalot

daily reminder

girlDog
girlDog

@massdebater
having such low-test that you don't want to do the one thing you were designed to do: propagating your existence

farquit
farquit

@Spamalot
Imagine being brainwashed into thinking that they are not
As long as it helps you with coping then do whatever kek

viagrandad
viagrandad

@girlDog
I didn’t ask for this. I should only be responsible for things that i chose

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Methshot
Americans are mutts with weak skeletal structures and weirdly shaped skulls due to their race-mixing.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Stark_Naked
@Need_TLC
The one monopolizing is the one that people actually like. If the people stop liking them, they’ll stop dominating/monopolizing.
ISPs have no competition because it's impossible to enter the market and they have monopoly where if people want internet, they have don't have a choice on providers and prices are high as fuck
this means people like those ISPs
meanwhile in a "communist hellhole" internet is dirt cheap and you have choice of several providers no matter where you live. Cause to me it sounds like the communist hellhole should be the one with no freedom of choice and high as fuck prices and the capitalist wonderland the one that's cheap and people having freedom of choice, if I'm to believe what you are telling me.
I'm still confused though, how was this a point for free market again
And how does the whole financial crisis thing work, if people, who are uneducated and don't know what's best for them or enough aout economy take trash loan and the banks destroy the economy giving people trash loans fucking over the entire economy that's free market working as intended and good situation?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Stupidasole
I want you to tell me with a straight face that more people get their straight hair converted to pubic hair on their head, get their cartilage and bone removed from their nose to get a flat wide and big-nostrilled nose, get their brow bones shaved to make the eyes more shallow and beta (like negroes and mongoloids), get brown eye contacts, get their hair line to start 2 inches further up etc etc

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@takes2long
Hopefully none, you disgusting race mixer.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@MPmaster
Why are Nordics so pretty?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@haveahappyday
Private banks or public owned? Also, differentiate between a fraud and merely an unsatisfying service. Think about it, it’s good enough that they went through difficulties to built their business and provide you with what you demand. Their only responsibility is giving you what you paid for. Also taxation is like punishment. Limitation on something, it gives a long term impression that you want that thing to be repressed to nonexistence. They could have closed their businesses which would even make it more difficult for you.

Again i wasn’t talking about fraud. Fraud is a criminal offense. Unsatisfying service is just unsatisfying service. If you hate banks then unite with other folks in your society to build your own replacement for banks. But of course, as soon as it gets bigger, it will only lead to corruption and dirty bureaucracy.

SniperWish
SniperWish

MOOOOOOOOOOODS

StonedTime
StonedTime

@TalkBomber
I believe the banks were private that caused the latest financial crisis, and I don't think anyone was sued for fraud so I don't know what's your point
And what about the ISP thing, still haven't heard the answer for that, is the situation in the US essentially the ideal right now because it's just free market working as intended?

TechHater
TechHater

@girlDog
want to do the one thing you were designed to do

Designed by who? Do you think evolution is a being?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@massdebater
Aryan God-men

Never seen scandinavians i guess?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@LuckyDusty
it wasn't meant to be

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Inmate
She looks like an spanish gipsy girl, damn those ar so hot brunette, cute faces and blue or green eyes.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@StonedTime
I have answered the ISP thing. There’s no reasonable basis for net neutrality. It’s basically a mob rule, to hijack people’s rightful property.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@King_Martha
I never talked about net neutrality, you brought it up
My question was is the situation in US right now the ideal as per the invisible hand of free market has dictated? No choice of internet service provider and high as fuck prices is a good situation according to the capitalistic ideal you seem to hold?
And if so, then why is it that in the "communist hellhole" you have more options and cheaper prices? Is that actually a bad thing then and why is that?

5mileys
5mileys

@King_Martha
Not an argument

askme
askme

@King_Martha
@happy_sad
And you still didn't address the financial crisis thing, you talked something about fraud that has nothing to do with anything.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@happy_sad
No choice of internet service provider and high as fuck prices is a good situation according to the capitalistic ideal you seem to hold?
What do you mean by no choice? Do they not have more than one internet provider company? It’s high because americans are more prosperous than you. It could also be because of the bullshit employment regulations that is ruining free market.

@5mileys
It is an argument though, my nonwhite comrade.

@askme
It has. Who do want to blame for the financial crisis and the banks having to do with it? Who do you want to blame for it? The banks? For what? Can you elaborate on that please?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@TreeEater
Not an argument

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Sharpcharm
Classic nonwhite pseudointellectual response.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@TreeEater
You still didn't answer it though
So the situation is great and ideal according to you? That's what I wanna know.
Do they not have more than one internet provider company?
I believe in some places they don't have a choice as there is only one company that provides internet services to certain areas.
It could also be because of the bullshit employment regulations that is ruining free market.
But one would imagine employee regulations and such would be more prominent in generally more governed country, am I wrong in making this assumption? And if I'm not, then how come it doesn't affect the prices in the communist hellhole?
It has.
How? No one was sued for fraud.
And again you dodged the question, if no one broke the law and the economy went down the shitter is that just free market working as intended? Everything is fine in that situation cause that's how free market works?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@SniperGod
So the situation is great and ideal according to you?
What situation? Be detailed about what you want to hear from me.

I believe in some places they don't have a choice as there is only one company that provides internet services to certain areas.
Why is that?

But one would imagine employee regulations and such would be more prominent in generally more governed country, am I wrong in making this assumption? And if I'm not, then how come it doesn't affect the prices in the communist hellhole?
Prices are cheap in communist hellhole because they’re FORCED to be cheap. Beneath your “joy”, is bloodshed and huge amount of debt.

How? No one was sued for fraud.
If no one is sued for anything, then no one is guilty

And again you dodged the question, if no one broke the law and the economy went down the shitter is that just free market working as intended?
Give me a real world example of economy going down to shitter because of free market. Free market is entrepreneurship. To oppose free market is to oppose entrepreneurship. And entrepreneurship is the heart of economic stability.

farquit
farquit

@GoogleCat
What situation? Be detailed about what you want to hear from me.
lemme memetext maybe it's easier to understand the questions that way
My question was is the situation in US right now the ideal as per the invisible hand of free market has dictated?
No choice of internet service provider and high as fuck prices is a good situation according to the capitalistic ideal you seem to hold?
And if so, then why is it that in the "communist hellhole" you have more options and cheaper prices?
Is that actually a bad thing then and why is that?
please don't answer with questions, I just want to understand your point of view here
Why is that?
I think it's due to no one really being able to compete against the big companies.
Prices are cheap in communist hellhole because they’re FORCED to be cheap. Beneath your “joy”, is bloodshed and huge amount of debt.
So are you saying they are killing people in the local ISPs and that keeps the prices low? How do they 'force' the prices to be cheap as you put it?
If no one is sued for anything, then no one is guilty
My question or point was not about guilt, I don't know why you keep bringing it up, I was asking if the situation is fine and good and according to the capitalistic ideals you hold when that happens
Give me a real world example of economy going down to shitter because of free market
2008 financial crisis, banks giving out trash loans and people taking the trash loans and not being able to pay them and housing bubble bursting because of it, again this thing is not about pointing finger at someone, my question is and I memetext again
is that just free market working as intended?
and don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to argue here, I just wanna know what you have to say really

Methnerd
Methnerd

@WebTool
Creepy...
@farquit
The free market should be free and governments should be abolished. The movement of money and people should be voluntary and organic/natural.
Yup, instead of a government established through democratic processes, we should instead have an anarchocapitalistic world where the wealthiest dictate (read: govern) the direction of society without our consent.
@Bidwell
Stop watching Jordan B. Memerson.

Yeah, I don't think I can read the rest of this thread.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@farquit
please don't answer with questions, I just want to understand your point of view here

i can't believe you haven't picked up on this, yet, but you're not arguing with someone who's participating in good faith. you and 1-2 other dudes are just getting trolled obviously

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@farquit
No i mean how is the situation in the US? I’m not american. Also free market doesn’t mean lack of choices. Choices exist not because the government enforce it, but because there’s an opportunity for new entrants to start a business. Give me an example of a communist hellhole having choices. They’re probably not very communistic and still have areas for entrepreneurship. My whole argument was that there’s no reason for regulations. you bringing up communist hellhole having more choices, does not give logical reason as to how more regulations can make more choices. There’s a lot of variables in this. Somalia can be more capitalistic than the US but they’re not inventing internet because low IQ.

I think it's due to no one really being able to compete against the big companies.
So it’s the big companies’ fault for being “too successful” therefore they should be expensed for it? Let me rephrase your shit:
a big company not making their products cheap enough, therefore not enough people can buy them = crime
a big company decides to close their companh, therefore EVERYONE can’t use internet = not a crime?

How do they 'force' the prices to be cheap as you put it?
Regulations

My question or point was not about guilt
Then banks are not guilty for anything? Okay. You change your mind pretty quick.

2008 financial crisis, banks giving out trash loans and people taking the trash loans and not being able to pay them and housing bubble bursting because of it, again this thing is not about pointing finger at someone, my question is and I memetext again
I never really read about such crisis. But i think crisis just happens once in a while and i don’t think banks are doing anything wrong in what you said. It’s their service. I shouldn’t be able to control what they can/can’t do with their own service, no matter how hard i want to do it.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Methnerd
where the wealthiest dictate (read: govern) the direction of society without our consent.
How are they even able to dictate us? So wait, is this spookyman supposed to be a very rich entrepreneur? Then stop buying his products if his wealth is used to dictate us.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@BinaryMan
So it’s the big companies’ fault for being
m8
My question or point was not about guilt
why you gotta constantly bring this up? I'm notmakign any point about guilt or faults
and you are dodging my questions, they are all in greentext there you can just copy them to your post and type the answer under them
you bringing up communist hellhole having more choices
Yes, because it feels very counter intuitive to me that place with more regulations has better prices and choices compared to place with less regulations, if I'm to believe what you are telling me. If I'm to believe what you are telling is true, it would make a lot of sense to me that the place with the least regulations would have some of the best internet on earth with cheap prices and plenty of competition but that doesn't seem to be the case, why is that?
2008 financial crisis
I never really read about such crisis
I see

farquit
farquit

@Supergrass
Look, if ‘no one is able to compete against the big companies’, it means that the big companies are doing very good and the people like their products. If you think the big companies are doing bad service and the new entrants promise better service, then they should compete easily. You’re implying that “free market makes it hard for people to have choices because it’s hard for competitors to compete” then good, it means the people really like the big companies’ products and they shouldn’t be forced to like anything else.

Yes, because it feels very counter intuitive to me that place with more regulations has better prices and choices compared to place with less regulations
Give an example of countries with more regulations and more choices, and countries with less regulations and less choices. You only present minimal information. Because the variables can be a lot. Not just free market. As i said, Somalia can have capitalism but they can’t invent anything because low IQ. Etc etc. The factors are many. This is complex

viagrandad
viagrandad

@askme
forcing life on someone because you dont want to be lonely
fucking kek
keep on soyin on

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@farquit
Give an example of countries with more regulations and more choices, and countries with less regulations and less choices
sweden vs usa in the ISP thing for example
Not just free market.
But wasn't your whole point that free market literally fixes everything?
You just completely ignore any questions I have, you aren't making very good points towards what you are trying to represent here I'm afraid.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@PurpleCharger
libertarians are honestly the stupidest

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@PackManBrainlure
But how do you know if sweden wouldn’t be even better with free market? Also sweden can’t be like what they are if america didn’t show them how everything is done. They literally just took everything that private entities created in america, and make it super left wing. If free market didn’t exist in the west, sweden wouldn’t be what they are right now. Also they’re homogeneous as fuck. But not for long.

You just completely ignore any questions I have
Why are you doing this to me? No i didn’t, i answered everything and i will never leave this place until this thread hits the limit or everyone is silent and not able to respond to me again.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@CouchChiller
But minimal government and capitalism is very western. It’s what makes whites white. You can belong to any other ideology, but you’ll always naturally find the idea of big government to be repulsive, and whites have to teach nonwhites about this.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Stupidasole
implying white people dont have big lips and fat asses
Your not from America are you?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@ZeroReborn
i answered everything
read the posts again, copy the questions to your post and answer to the questions, you have dodged bunch of questions, ignored just as many, talked incoherent nonsense not related to the questions at all and just generally taken the subject to somewhere else entirely by putting words in my mouth and assuming I'm implying something when I'm just asking questions
again, this isn't me showing some agenda or being hostile or implying somethin, I'd just really like to understand you but you are making it harder than it should be

viagrandad
viagrandad

@farquit
My question was is the situation in US right now the ideal as per the invisible hand of free market has dictated?
Not ancap enough so no
No choice of internet service provider and high as fuck prices is a good situation according to the capitalistic ideal you seem to hold?
They have choices. High prices because of regulations
And if so, then why is it that in the "communist hellhole" you have more options and cheaper prices?
Regulations. ‘floor price’ and ‘ceiling price’
Is that actually a bad thing then and why is that?
What is a bad thing? The people organizing a mob rule at gunpoint to force business owners to do what they want is bad, yes

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@viagrandad
Not ancap enough so no
now you post this

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Spamalot
Lmao you are delusional if you think beauty standards are all socially constructed. Certain features are considered universally attractive.

Sorry but your just ugly.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@MPmaster
user who tried to find Veeky Forums friends in Amsterdam about a week ago.

Expected a higher amount of beautiful women desu.

King_Martha
King_Martha

I started this threda for laffs, reposted a pic from kc. Didn't expect so much serious discussion.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

ITT: Triggered shitskins going full "muh /pol/"
lmaoing @ your lives.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@MPmaster
@MPmaster
But that girl is neither pretty nor nordic.

She's an autistic french girl with tinfoil tier beliefs

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Gigastrength
He resorts to porn to cope with reality.
That's just sad.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@King_Martha
hope u r proud of urself

RumChicken
RumChicken

wow shitt i'm glad i jumped that shittstorm
@Nude_Bikergirl
this is spot on, why is it arguing with hardcore libertarians is so fucking difficult? the one's IRL i know are completely terrible at holding a discussion, even fucking anarkocommunists are easier to have a calm and constructive conversation with than the libertarians iv'e met

it seems to all boil down to the belief in the free market's invisible hand will fix everything and that all regulation is to blame for the issues of capitalism

which is utter nonsense

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@ZeroReborn
Do you even really know what a free market economy is? You're arguing that the US has a free market economy, even though it's not really that much more free than Sweden's- as a matter of fact, Sweden ranks only two places lower 2017's economic freedom index. In both countries the government gives out subsidies to farmers, for example, which is against the principles of a true free market economy.

As for your argument that monopolies are fine and that if people really wanted more choice, smaller companies would start popping up because that's what the people want-- as a smaller company you have fewer resources and as such can't offer your services as cheaply as a big company can. Especially not one so big that they can practically regulate market prices on their own.

If you need any arguments against free market economies in general, and would like to understand why government regulation exists in most economically free countries in the west, you might want to look up downward demand spirals. All the arguments you've been making show that you know fuck all about economics, so maybe you shouldn't be saying dumb shit like how Somalians can't make capitalism work because their IQ is low. It says more about you than it says about them.

whereismyname
whereismyname

racists btfo

King_Martha
King_Martha

@CodeBuns
Somalians can't make anything work, they're niggers after all.

idontknow
idontknow

@Crazy_Nice
that's degenerate

Snarelure
Snarelure

@whereismyname
Racists > everyone else

Emberburn
Emberburn

@idontknow

quite the contrary

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

willing to bet muh dick on the fact that they were arranged with varg

TechHater
TechHater

marriage of calculation is the best marriage

JunkTop
JunkTop

you have to keep in mind that your lovey-dovey in-love psychosis will be over very VERY soon.

Nojokur
Nojokur

marrying because you fell in love is the most retarded thing you can do. how can this not be painfully obvious to anyone, let alone the celebs, the rich and powerful ones

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Nojokur
@JunkTop
@TechHater

Then marry without love, nobody cares. Find yourself a shallow girl to match your shallow materialistic personality while he rest will marry the people they love and see as the best friends

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Skullbone
boom, headshot

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Skullbone

Moron. The whole point is to find someone matching certain criteria.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

itt

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Firespawn
Lmao what

@happy_sad
certain criteria
Like what? How much money they have? What car they drive? If you love these stuff then whatever, but some people marry the person who fell in love with instead of person that has certain amount of money and degree you like

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@MPmaster
1-800-eww-loll

hairygrape
hairygrape

@TechHater
i think you're right

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@CodeBuns
I didn’t defend the US specifically, i defend the free market. Also i’m against subsidies, unless they’re voluntary.

as a smaller company you have fewer resources and as such can't offer your services as cheaply as a big company can.
Well that’s their problem isn’t it? Why should it be on the expense of the big guys? If you want to build a company well you do it when you’re ready. There’s a LOT of smaller companies who defeat the big ones. Your argument against monopolies is ridiculous.

Government regulations exist because the west isn’t currently perfect.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@CouchChiller
Who? The ancap one or the socialist ones?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Stupidasole
Ew ugly

FastChef
FastChef

@StrangeWizard
Not him, but the concept of love is relative, one day the person is the whole world to you, and tomorrow you can be not really interested anymore(not in a literal way, of course), I think that having substancial things in common like, moral values, life style and end goals, is much more important than having this butterflies that you have multiple times through your life with diferent people, even after getting married if you're not aware, this hollywoodian concept of love is the reason why divorce rates are so high, because people aren't prepared for reality when it strikes their fairy tales.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@massdebater
A struggle as old as life
A brutal arms race for the right of continuation
the single most important moment of every living thing
The reason monuments were built
The reason empires fell
It all ends now
Because of a milenial who thinks he’s smarter than life

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

/fa/ Fashion

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

What do rural blonde girls smell like?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Crazy_Nice
flowers

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Sharpcharm
Everyone has the same last name too; makes me wonder if they're all imbred af.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@FastChef
If that's what he meant then yeah, obviously. But from his posts it sounded really different

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Crazy_Nice
Cow shit and poverty

Emberfire
Emberfire

Not gonna bother mass replying, so listen here fellow ancap. Read some Hoppe or even just David Friedman before you go debating online. You're making us look retarded.

Evilember
Evilember

@Emberburn
Yeah, I go with this after substantial experience.

Also - prescription drugs and despair.

Inmate
Inmate

@Emberfire
Lmao

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Lord_Tryzalot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmWP99NPN9g

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@WebTool
post frendo

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@MPmaster
shit we are?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@BlogWobbles
post dick?????

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Inmate
@Methnerd
@Flameblow
@MPmaster
That girl is Colombian. It was photoshopped by ISIS

Inmate
Inmate

@PurpleCharger
If I had one maybe I would have

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Spamalot
Valhalla

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@likme
She even got a nose job to get rid of her monkey nose

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Spamalot
Yeh bro wide noses and big lips are definitely the epitome of beauty

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