What do you study?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

what do you study?

All urls found in this thread:
http://www.pueda.ch/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Uptime_Institute_Data_Center_Tier_Classification_5th.pdf
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/substance/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2jE2aDPUnU
http://chronicle.com/article/Liberal-Arts-Majors-Have/236749
http://chronicle.com/article/Why-New-Humanities-PhDs/236528
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh2JyX9cxos
http://saab.com/naval/
https://www.quora.com/What-should-my-college-major-be-if-I-am-wanting-to-get-into-designing-artificial-intelligence
Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

African American studies

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

video games studies

hairygrape
hairygrape

cock sucking studies

Methnerd
Methnerd

I study cyber security and believe it should be up a tier

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

information systems

Not even on the chart. Should I just kill myself Veeky Forums?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I am an electrical engineer.

Its the lamest fucking job ever. Do not go into electrical engineering. Boring as fuck. Should be suicide tier.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Raving_Cute

I studied Philosophy

I would definitely agree it's shit-tier

Military is definitely NOT shit-tier if you do something good. I know someone who's an officer in the Royal Engineers. That's a pretty great job.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Dreamworx
I'm actually about to do it. What's so boring about it? Don't want to kill myself

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Dreamworx

What do you do in it?

massdebater
massdebater

@Sir_Gallonhead
@MPmaster
I design data centers and other small data rooms. You do CAD drawings, write specifications, spec out equipment and just deal with bullshit.

Most of it has to do with my salty attitude toward corporate garbage. But it can't be entirely me, because pretty much everyone I know has gotten out of engineering after a few years. A lot of them are in related roles, but no longer do actually engineering because its painfully fucking boring and repetitive.

I've left twice, but have had to go back because I went broke. Hopefully the third time will be the last.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@massdebater

As I posted earlier, I'm in information systems and have wanted to go into data warehouse design. Am I likely to encounter the same kinds of problems doing that?

Evilember
Evilember

@Poker_Star
The IT side of it is probably much more interesting than the infrastructure side, but I don't know much about IT stuff.

If you are interested in infrastructure, this white paper pretty much lays everything out. http://www.pueda.ch/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Uptime_Institute_Data_Center_Tier_Classification_5th.pdf

The only recommendation I have for anyone is go into computer programming. It offers the most flexibility of any field I know, while still offering decent pay. But I feel like computer programming might be in a little bit of a bubble now - kind of like the oil jobs were before the bust.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Raving_Cute
geophysics god
geophysics good

hitting a metal plate with a hammer and measuring velocity is retard-tier

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Evilember

Ok, thanks. That seems much more like the physical infrastructure side of things than logical design and requirements analysis, which is where I think my strengths lie.

I know everybody's into programming now, but I can't seem to work up any particular enthusiasm for it. I'm studying SQL, Java and Python but to me they're just means to an end rather than something I could see myself doing full time.

RumChicken
RumChicken

CS, first year

DeathDog
DeathDog

@BlogWobbles
I hear ya. I started to take one of those udacity programming courses to change fields into programming and got bored with that too. I'm too old to go into programming now.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@DeathDog

If you know your engineering nuts and bolts but don't want to actually do it, why not go into tech consulting? A friend of mine did EE and is now making bank as a consultant for Telstra (big telecomms company here in Australia).

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@BunnyJinx
I mentioned almost everyone I know has left engineering - they have left for those types of jobs.

I have a super spotty career history now, so my options are limited. Employers hate the excuse "I quit my job to pursue day trading." I won't last much longer doing this shit. I'm about to the point where I would rather make 10 bucks an hour at a pizza shop than do this shit.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@massdebater
@Evilember
@Dreamworx
Should've gone to grad school, cuck. I'm busy making quantum computers and shit

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Fried_Sushi
If you enjoy it good for you.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Lunatick
Fair enough, if you don't enjoy the field, you don't enjoy the field. But I think writing off EE as the "lamest fucking job ever" is somewhat extreme. It demonstrates that salary/prestige/whatever is no fucking way to choose your career, and I'm sorry it didn't work out for you.

My sympathies, user.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Raving_Cute
I'm finishing med school this year

takes2long
takes2long

@Sir_Gallonhead
I am very biased I admit. I also have experience in only a portion of the field. But I can't recommend anyone go into a field similar to mine. Quantum computing may be fun. Data center infrastructure is not.

Yes, I am very salty.

idontknow
idontknow

Studied anthropology
got job in sales
learned to code and became a marketing consultant.
genuinely enjoy my job and make six figures at the same time
make more then all the cucks my age

College major is literally a meme. All you need to do is figure out what you're good at and then use that to make money.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Sir_Gallonhead
prestige

Prestige is such a bullshit normie concept. Can you eat prestige? Can prestige keep me warm or pay off my bills? Do what it takes to make money. If a pornstar makes more money then you, that literally proves that society finds this person more valuable to you. "prestige" is how normies cope with mediocre.

"A..at least I'm a doctor! so what If I have to wait ten years before I make money, America despises me and my patients don't trust me. I have prestige!"

"S...so what If I have 500k worth of student loans I have to pay for law school. I'm a big fancy lawyer now! Sure I'm getting a shit salary to do shit work for 80 hours a week but I have prestige!!!"

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Deadlyinx
If a pornstar makes more money then you, that literally proves that society finds this person more valuable to you.

Are you Jewish by any chance?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

don't know where else to post so this will have to do

Current situation
18
living with mom
just graduated
have no idea what I want to do
been working at a restaurant making $9.50/h
have $3k saved
just got $10k from an insurance accident
gf going off to college in the fall
want to go to college i guess but i really cant decide what to get into
I like working with computers and stuff, I've built my own

Plan
keep saving from working @ restaurant
start investing in mutual fund early
hope to eventually become financially independent
would like to get into college but idk what to get into, someone please help

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@StrangeWizard
start investing in mutual fund early
3k
9.5/hr

from one bro to another, forget any notion of investing right now. concentrate on developing literally any other skill. if you get a job at 30k/yr right now, youll make more than a decade of your current "ivnestment" strategy.

get a different job, and get gud at it

Emberfire
Emberfire

@StrangeWizard
Look here

@Raving_Cute
This, if you want to invest, see it as a hobby, not as a means of getting wealthy. The wealth part will come later after you become skilled in something.

@StrangeWizard

I like working with computers and stuff

Computer engineering student here. CE isn't like building computers, but, if you want to learn how they work then do CE. Secure job, good pay, respected by other people, you aren't stuck with computers, you will be valuable in other roles like programming (if you learn a few more languages than what college teaches you), finance people like all engineering students, but, especially the "hard" Engineers like CE, EE, ChemE, Aero, etc.

You probably won't learn much about computers in first year other than maybe an intro to Computer science or some intro to programming classes. But, it gets real heavy on the electrical part of Computer Engineering in 3rd and 4th year. It is challenging, but, rewarding.

SniperWish
SniperWish

2 year I.T. program at a shitty community college, making bank now.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Raving_Cute
triple major in 3 God-tiers
Feels good

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Emberfire
heyy, i really enjoy working hands on, i could maybe see myself getting into coding but my thing is math isnt my strong field. Is there a lot of math when working in CE?

I was wondering another thing with the $10k that I just received from the insurance thing, im assuming the best thing rn would be to pay for my education instead of investing, I want to start earning good money im just at a loss figuring out how to do it :/

Techpill
Techpill

Got an MA in international relations. The field is riddled with nepotism.

I'm working in digital marketing now.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Deadlyinx
he doesn't understand how a market works

Pornstars make money because there aren't that many people willing to degrade themselves on camera. There are more people with the potential to become a doctor or a lawyer than there are attractive people willing to film their gaping asshole.

Compensation doesn't translate into the significance of your work, it only measures how replaceable you are.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Techpill
International Relations student here...

I feel you bro, I like my field but hell nepotism is strong, if you don't meet the right people or you don't want to suck some dinosaurs balls during uni you can forget of being anything but a teacher really

might as well learn to code and go freelance IT

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Mathematician here. I wish I did more CS or Computer Engineering.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Raving_Cute
Math & Economics w/ CS minor (also working on CFA Level 1)

massdebater
massdebater

@Raving_Cute
Psychology. Im going to med school though

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@lostmypassword
without a doubt pay for your education over investing. There is 0 chance that you will be able to beat the loans interest rate as well as the compounding interest that you will be subject to if you don't pay it off.

Also, the time saved from being fixated on the markets.

Yes, there is math. I HAVE to take atleast 3 math classes as well as 2 pure physics classes.

Once you learn that math, the math in your electrical classes and other stuff you learn in CE is relatively easy.

If you reckon you could handle the quantitative stuff in CE or any E really, I would recommend you go for it. But, if you can't, go for programming. Not SoftE, if you did SoftE you will be doing math classes as well.

I suggest you learn programming at a programming boot camp if you want to programming. There isn't that much hands on stuff other than circuits and some other things. You will get to do a fair few labs stuff just in the intro physics and engineering units.

Techpill
Techpill

@cum2soon
Mexibro quant dude

5mileys
5mileys

Economics major here, i genuinely enjoy it, and couldn't see myself studying anything else. But reading Veeky Forums makes me paranoid since it's considered meme tier here. People irl seem impressed I guess and the stats show its pretty up there for median salary.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Veterinary school, specializing in fish.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Studied business management in a university outside of the top 20.

Got loads of offers before I even graduated, now work in a telecommunications company as a sales manager. I earn above the average wage in the country and it's only my second job. Job was Chinese-speaking only which I learned in China when living there for two years.

Literally easy mode.

Barely tried in the degree, did my dissertation in two days, got a first honours.

Booteefool
Booteefool

2L in law school.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Currently double majoring in Philosophy & Political Science with a minor in Criminal Justice, History, & Ethics. I plan on attending law school.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Want to study broadcast and media
Too unrealistic
Want to go into forensics
Mediocre at genetics
Want to study to become mortician
Hard practice to get into
Offered job that pays well and has benefits
Goverment construction

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Raving_Cute
nigger studies
i don't study at all
I don't even go to school
I barely got past primary

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Raving_Cute

Why on Earth is Transportation ranked so low?

Transport planning isn't that bad, it's just a pretty regular professional job writing policy. I work in the field and everybody I know earns a decent wage, roughly the same as your average solicitor or engineer.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Media studies and what?

cum2soon
cum2soon

God tier standing by. I've studied medicine.

I regret not studying economics and finance.

askme
askme

@BinaryMan
Isn't that just the business branch of Comp Sci?

I wouldn't worry, I hear they make good money.

I just studied regular comp sci. Now I need to find someone who will hire a guy with 2.2 Bachelours with Honours. (That's pretty meh by the by)

Firespawn
Firespawn

basic electrical engineering, hope i don't have to soon enough with bitcoin going to the moon

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@BinaryMan
broadcast and media
Too unrealistic
Why unrealistic?

takes2long
takes2long

@Raving_Cute
Networking is ez, and it will be a stable industry for many years to come.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Raving_Cute
Optometry

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Raving_Cute
Accounting as great tier? I think it's for meh tier what do other Veeky Forums think

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Raving_Cute
Seriously architectiture meh tier and good tier you're kidding me why it's on both tier

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Raving_Cute
Applied Mathematics here, looking to do a MSc in Financial Mathematics. Is there anything I can do in finance that ISN'T being a quant?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Joke's on you my job is too shitty to even get on the list.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@RumChicken
look into consulting

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@AwesomeTucker
I've thought about this. What kind of "consulting" do they expect mathematicians to do?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Spazyfool
either analyze data or Just bullshit businesses that hire you. Management consulting is a field that takes people in with any kind of degree, so the consulting you will be doing is the same as the consuting and english major would be doing, do an internet search. and harass your professors about what kind of jobs the other math masters students did after graduation. there are plenty of in the field of operations research. so do some internet research.

FastChef
FastChef

@BlogWobbles
@Raving_Cute
this, why is it there twice?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@ZeroReborn
Not too many good media outlets on the east coast besides way up north.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@lostmypassword
Senior CmpE major here. You might want to watch out if you aren't good at math. Depending on where you go math may be intense at times, and with any good program it should. Just know that if you decide to go in that direction. Not that hard work can't overcome it, just know you would have to work at it if your math isn't strong.

IT isn't awful and still related to computers. Every company now has a network and needs people to manage it. A friend of mine, equally as smart as I am and capable of doing the math for CmpE, started out as CS but changed to IT. He works for a consulting company that manages IT services for several businesses.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Currently studying economics, but for now I'm finishing up my gen ed credits at CC so I guess I'm not REALLY studying it yet. So far I've only taken intro to micro and macro Econ, does the difficulty spike at the 2XX and 3XX level classes?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Dreamworx

Dude, just join the SW (dark) side. We have cookies.

t. CompE working in SW

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Raving_Cute
Philosophy and now I'm in the military.
I have like 2 bills, and 30k savings a year,

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Kinesiology BS, one or two more semesters

Plan to attend Occupational Therapy school or Orthotics & Prosthetics, but the latter has turned out to be more of a cash grab.

Otherwise, god help me, maybe get a cert in sonography/ultrasound or something

takes2long
takes2long

@TalkBomber
Yes. I breezed through Intro and passed Intermediate econs without attending class, utterly failed econometrics.

Econometrics, you just have to pay attention during and work at. Don't be like me.

Intermediate Micro/Macro were some of my favorite courses. Econometrics is one of my least favorite.

massdebater
massdebater

@takes2long
Also; Economics, but I left school because I couldn't afford it and was a retard about how I went about going and had to move out of state temporarily.

Am taking off til I get back home, am taking some edx.org CS classes. Will probably go for a Comp Sci/Econ degree.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

How the hell is foreign languages suicide tier?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@haveahappyday
Also, no bio or chem majors in here? I've found a lot of people here are into math, so that makes sense

Soft_member
Soft_member

@BlogWobbles
architecture is as dead as dead can be. work is scarce, people honestly dont give a damn about architects, and the amount of proposals vs jobs is absolutely insane.

you can always get a job as a 13/hr cadmonkey though, so i suppose thats something

cum2soon
cum2soon

@takes2long
@massdebater

Thanks for the advice Veeky Forums bro. I'm not all that good when it comes to mathematics, so I'll try to read up on econometrics to prepare myself.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Raving_Cute
IR, master in international relations?

whereismyname
whereismyname

did you know there are Neets on here RIGHT NOW that will be getting rich investing in meme altcoins and will have had to never worry about picking a major, studying, cost of living etc

Neets who are buying Trumpcoin RIGHT NOW will be the ones you future waiters will be waiting on.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Spamalot
@Techpill

Im applying for a bachelor in international environment and development Studies (3years) which then leads to a master in international relations (2 years)

With that + working experience in developing countries and knowing the language of the dev. country, how hard would it be to apply for a job in the embassy down there?

tl;dr IR master, 4 languages, applying for a embassy job (work my way up from bottom), how hard?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@lostmypassword
am also curious about this

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@lostmypassword
@Boy_vs_Girl
won't lead to a job

viagrandad
viagrandad

no Quant Math in Unbelievable tier
discarded

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@TurtleCat
You can generalize any major like that.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@viagrandad
'quant math'?

what would non-quant math be exactly?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@RumChicken
yup... in fact you're more likely to not be a 'quant' with that degree and no phd

plenty of mid office jobs in risk, finance etc...

quant dev roles in IT etc... too

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/substance/

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Spazyfool
in the context of a financial maths masters then working for a financial software vendor and configuring their software at client banks. Can involve working on new implementations, upgrades, enhancements etc.. you need to understand the financial products, pricing etc.. how your software prices stuff, how you configure some new security in the software, how to set up swap curves etc.. basically you become a jack of all trades

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Raving_Cute
philosphy grads statistically make a pretty solid mid career income. this is a meme chart.

takes2long
takes2long

Currently working on an applied math degree from a top 5 school in mathematics. Is it meme tier? I have heard horror stories about applied math people unable to find work, even out of really good schools.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

ain't a finance degree from unranked uni
deemed

useless?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Environmental science at an Ivy League school. Pretty comfy

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Deadlyinx
gl with that

DeathDog
DeathDog

@takes2long
disproportional number of autistic types on those courses... if there are lots of people struggling to find work it is probably down to their autistic traits rather than the degree itself which is obviously rather useful

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Maths. Going Year 2
Still can't decide between App. Math or Stats.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Raving_Cute
Anyone here in actuarial science or have any experience with it? Not sure if I should do some kind of good engineering (chem, computer, electrical) or actuarial science. Is the actuarial field as saturated and boring as fuck as I hear a lot? Can I do other shit with an actuarial degree or should I just major in stats or something?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@CodeBuns
I'm pretty sure you will still need to get the actuarial certification/exams from those actuarial organisations. Heck, if you want to be an actuary, just pass those exams.

Just major in something else

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Doing carpentry at community college

R8

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Raving_Cute
nursing (-:

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Dreamworx
THIS
I make decent money, but MEP drawings are a slow boring death.
How many times are we going to do the same formula today? just 45 times before lunch
Boss wants it changed for no reason?
Sure. We'll just redo 2 weeks of work for it again
Oh? We're in a time crunch because boss changed too many things before deadline and it's our fault?
Guess we won't be going home for another 6 hours every day this month.
Engineering is autism tier. If you don't have autism, it's a slow and painful suicide.

happy_sad
happy_sad

I switched my major from Marketing to Finance, did I make the right choice?

5mileys
5mileys

What should I learn in University?
My 2 broadest topics I can think of are computer science (programming?) and finance.

Which one is more likely to not make me a wage slave?

I am getting a taste now about the wage cuck life, and I hate it. (let's say it's a "contract" job and I have like 2 and some years left)

Techpill
Techpill

Finishing up a history degree. I was considering going for my PHD right after school but the job market for college educators, particularly in the humanities is fucking horrid.

Thinking about going after an MBA in finance or something. My grandfather thinks I should go teach english somewhere for a year because it will 'look good'.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@DeathDog
What sort of jobs could I expect? My goal is to end up completing an MFE program after my bachelors and then get into the finance/banking industry.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Techpill
fucking teach middle school. theyre always hiring, and if you dont go postal, youll make a living.

try not to kill the students

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Techpill
why the fuck would you get a humanities degree?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Soft_member
in america

iluvmen
iluvmen

I have been a RN for 6 years now, 3 of those years I work in Palliative care. If you are the work to live type Nursing is great and everything about nursing is flexible.

Penalties, Overtime and no salarycuck shit. I work 3 nights-4 days off, 10 hour shifts over the weekend - racking in about approx 1500 a week ++ Fringe benefits . Nights, nothing drastic really happens, every patient is sedated, in fact I am posting on Veeky Forums at 5am.

I live in area where rent is extremely low and next to my work. I just play video games or goto the gym 4-5 times week.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Raving_Cute
Particle Physics
I'm surprised to see it so high on a Veeky Forums chart though, researchers don't earn a whole lot here in the EU or anywhere.
I suppose this is about some other job physicists apparently do?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Automotive eng, I've worked for 2 brand name car companies already and haven't even finished 3rd year.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Is foreign languages really so terrible? At least you're providing a service if you become a translator or interpreter.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@haveahappyday
I fell for the "do what you love and you'll find a way to make money" meme.

My main concern is that I'm a type 1 diabetic and I can only be on my parents insurance for so many more years. I've also had the good fortune to have a dad who owns a pharmacy.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@StrangeWizard
keep looking! it is your attitude that makes that degree a meme. Don't you have a portfolio, projects something that demonstrates your skills?

what the fuck are you good at? and learn to bull shit. people you should be able to get a job.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@idontknow
This.

My problem is I need to try more things. Hopefully I'll land this job and it'll help.

Methshot
Methshot

Civil eng
enter uni
3 semesters later there is a huge corruption scandal in my country involving the biggest construction companies
economy tanks
JUST
U
S
T

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@GoogleCat
I'm very analytical and a good public speaker, I get on well with practically every one I meet or work with. I'm not as good as I should be at managing my money, trying to improve.

Turning 21 in 2 weeks and I've been working since I was 15. 2 movie theatre jobs, 1 retail, 3 times a waiter. Currently working as an "engaged life program instructor" and waiter at a Senior independent living community where I'm well liked and teach a history class to the residents once a week.

I'm told a history degree is one of the most flexible.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Follow your passion is just as much a meme as do what you love (unless you are rich)

Knowing people who can employ you > networking and enjoying your youth > developing marketable skills > acquiring a certain qualification.

No serious industry is gonna care if you enter by age 20 or 25 or even 30. Also you will most likely only apply 10% of the stuff you learned, and most jobs will be painfully dull and repetitive.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Dreamworx
T H I S
It's stable and fine if you are an immigrant but oh gosh the boredom of entry-level jobs.

Design circuit. Soldier parts. Test under oscilloscope. File tech report.

OR

Design antenna using cad software. Optimise said antenna for perfect gain. Test antenna in anechoic chamber. File tech report.

OR

Automate lab equipment. Measure latest diodes IV curve. File tech report

DeathDog
DeathDog

26
have no idea what to do with my life
don't want to get a degree and just work, want to do something interesting with it
decide to try elec eng because my brother-in-law does it, and it seems like I can get into the research side of it
don't get in because some documentation issues, have to try again next year
having major doubts again
Fuck me I hate being so uncertain about this stuff

Soft_member
Soft_member

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2jE2aDPUnU

girlDog
girlDog

@Raving_Cute
Physics, motherfucker. Heading into my 3rd year. I'm scared.

5mileys
5mileys

@whereismyname
You know, anything's possible, but it just rings so false when you put it that way? I mean, can't you hear how dissonant and off-key you sound?

It's kind of like, yeah ok sure thing buddy.

Methshot
Methshot

@Dreamworx
isn't this true for any office job?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

In my country (Sweden) there is only one business degree. We simply call it "Business and economics" and you can specialize in either business or economics. Then, you can specialize in finance, accounting, marketing, commerce law, economic history, macro etc. How do you rank that?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Burnblaze
http://chronicle.com/article/Liberal-Arts-Majors-Have/236749
http://chronicle.com/article/Why-New-Humanities-PhDs/236528

you should save up your money in case you need to relocate to get a better job, also hit up your old college network, the least you can probably get is a sales job and move your way up.

It wouldn't hurt to learn some other more technical skill.

Also you can try to become a lobbyist. I am trying to think of jobs that fill the description of "professional convincer." you should also consider going abroad.

good luck, I admire you for pursuing what you love.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Carnalpleasure
That's pretty shit tier.
There's wayy too much information in those sectors
to put it all under one degree. USA #1 for a reason

idontknow
idontknow

Getting an AA in comp Sci then gonna do either CS/Math, CS/physics, math/physics, or computational math

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

BS in EE, do freelance PCB design and run a small IT company.

Evilember
Evilember

@Raving_Cute
I'm an info systems major going into my junior year. Does anyone know how good the job market is for IT, and if it is bad or the pay is mediocre, will I be better off improving my my coding skills than trying to work and stay in the field?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Raving_Cute
BSEE/MSEE master race checking in
but i will quit by year end to start trading full time.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

How tough is aeronautical engineering? Heading off to college in August. I'm no retard, 1950 SAT and 30 ACT, but without an amazing work ethic.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Poker_Star
asking an electrical engineering about IT

It makes sense why you're in IT.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@StrangeWizard
gf going off to college in the fall

She's not your girlfriend anymore.

Also, consider your life 95% likely to be over if you don't go to college. I'd wager even 5% being too generous on how many people end up doing well without a college degree these days.

Just go to university, dumb fuck.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Spazyfool
knows manderin
can't fathom why he is living easy-mode knowing manderin in a fucking business degree

without that, you would have been in-the-trash tier. your degree is useless. it's literally #1 most filled in the USA.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Fried_Sushi
engineering degree
without an amazing work ethic.

You'll fail. You'd better learn how to study and take this seriously, otherwise don't bother wasting your time.

takes2long
takes2long

@Spamalot
Also, consider your life 95% likely to be over if you don't go to college

2 years in a trade school and you can make more than 75% of college majors

massdebater
massdebater

@SomethingNew
Of course, I brought my GPA from a 2.7 Junior year to a 3.9 senior year. Hoping to continue the not-shit-grades streak.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@takes2long
Sure, and your job will suck.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@iluvmen
suck by what definition?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@takes2long
This.
Most of uni/college education is useless unless you need it to become something that otherwise you can't. e.g. Engineer, psychologist, teacher, actuary etc.

@Fried_Sushi
If you have the right attitude, and a stubbornness to be successful it won't be an issue. A lot of idiots take engineering and just chill out and don't pay attention to anything, get subpar marks and then freak out they won't pass their final exam.

CE here. A lot of people drop out because of weeding classes. Maths and physics are pretty big weeder classes. They have the heaviest content in the early years.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Gigastrength
daily health risks
can only work for so long due to said health risks
inb4 "just become a manager then/start a construction company" not everyone does that
has little mental stimulation and anyone could do it
no respect
won't be remembered for anything

You're non-ironically trying to debate with me that a blue-collar job that any joe blow can do will suck less than a white-collar job as an engineer/scientist or something.

I don't even know why I engage.You clearly have an agenda to shill something so illogical.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Firespawn
Why are you defining your identity by what you do for money?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

How are freshman chem classes for engineers? I have to take fundamentals of chemistry and general chemistry, and I fuckin hated high school chem.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@TurtleCat
Who said that you were doing it for money?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

just graduated, studied chem E and math
had an internship in an oil company for a year that paid pretty well, but I can't find a job with the current oil prices.

Honestly, I picked the hardest/best paying major that I could find and now that it is not paying off, I am salty as hell. If this was 2014, I would easily get 75k starting, but now I might not get employed for a while.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Just got my EMT-B certification

Doing a bachelor's degree in clinical athletic training

My goal is to work in a sports medicine, weight loss, or physical therapy clinic of some kind.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Firespawn
eh no. I was saying a blue-collar job with 0 debt is better than a shitty white-collar job with tons of debt due to majoring in something stupid

engineer/scientist is another level.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Majoring in finance, just finished my second year so I've been able to take a couple finance courses along with a few econ, stats and accounting classes.

Don't really know what field I want to go in yet, also kind of worried about getting internships since shit's pretty competitive.

feels ok overall tho

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Crazy_Nice
I was saying a blue-collar job with 0 debt is better than a shitty white-collar job with tons of debt due to majoring in something stupid
Good thing uni is free in my country and I'm majoring in mathematics

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Dreamworx
good thing uni is free in my country
no it's not, it's taken directly from the taxes you pay (or will pay in the future), although the real punchline is that you aren't paying for your own uni, you're paying for other people to get degrees in liberal arts, and then paying for their unemployment benefits when they don't get a job after graduating

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Spamalot
Actually it is since I have the freedom to move abroad where the largest job pools are, and get to be paid more with fewer taxes.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Raving_Cute
BA in history
Basis for a JD
Joined military, became staff judge advocate, pulling $115k a year plus bennies, DoD paid off all my student debt and I effectively "work" 25 hours a week

Depends on what you use the lower shit for.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Evil_kitten
Niggerology?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Dreamworx
idiots dont know how good they have it as usual

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Firespawn
Compensation doesn't translate into the significance of your work, it only measures how replaceable you are.
This has to be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board in my entire life.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Evil_kitten
@Evil_kitten
CS here, wish I'd done Math.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Raving_Cute
Didn't finish college
Work for an engineering firm
Guaranteed to make 50k a year by end of 3rd year
Profit sharing after that.

Evilember
Evilember

2.1 BSc in Economics and Computing
MSc in Computer Security.
Live in a major city in Europe and struggling to get a foot in the door of cybersecurity.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Evilember
2.1 GPa?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@PurpleCharger
Ebonics.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@SniperWish

No, it's the English degree system. 1st equals best, then 2.1, then 2.2 then a 3rd.
If you get a 2.2 or lower, then you fucked up.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Raving_Cute
Mechanical Engineering, in the "Mech Eng Apprentices everywhere" Capital of England.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

I'm studying Economics and I'm going to graduate in April 2017. I've never worked a day in my life, although I'm trying to get a job this summer. I have no debt, and about $3500 in cash. I have $5000 in a mutual fund, and $15000 in a GIC (Canadian long term investment) that's locked up until 2020. How fucked am I? I just want a comfy white collar office job with little interaction and a sweet $40 000+ salary.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Raving_Cute
Political Science and economics, 4.0 GPA, law school in 2 years

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Harmless_Venom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh2JyX9cxos

Maybe this will lighten your mood.. or not.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@PurpleCharger
Kek

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Is Geography the most misunderstood major out there? I'm studying it right now (called Geographic Science at my school) and it honestly seems very solid, especially when you learn GIS, which I'm concentrating it.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Boy_vs_Girl
@Raving_Cute
So i started out in the uni studying in the unbelievable tier and shifted into the suicide tier.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@CodeBuns
never quote me or my wife's son ever again

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

I study architecture. Is it really that bad, and is it worth to do it until PhD.?

Snarelure
Snarelure

What should I do if I'm awful at math? I'm pretty sure I took the same math class like four times under different names

idontknow
idontknow

@Raving_Cute
Economics here are Bachelore of arts or acience. If arts then nope. If science then it needs to move. I had only 24 credits spent on sociology. Law. Econ history. Management basics, rest is darn maths.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Raving_Cute
[spoiler]Petroleum Engineering[/spoiler]

send help

Techpill
Techpill

@Playboyize
i fucking forgot this board doesn't have spoilers

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Snarelure
I'm pretty sure
You don't even remember the topics you learnt....4 times.

You should fuck off .

cum2soon
cum2soon

Still into this tier-shit?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Evil_kitten
I probably enjoy math way more than I would enjoy CS, but it was just that I took one intro to programming class and I hated it. It took me years to realize that CS was a lot closer to math. I don't even want to take that much, just Data Structures and Algorithms, as well as Machine Learning.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Going to study Economics come this fall. I'll take good tier I suppose

farquit
farquit

@Raving_Cute
Why do you consider mechanical engineering only a "great" tier field? I'm considering taking it in undergrad, but everyone in this thread has refrained from calling it a good engineering degree

5mileys
5mileys

@TalkBomber
Where are you studying?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

How about people offer something helpful ITT.

Most of us have good/shit/meh/okay/awful tier bachelors

Lets say we have Vanilla Bachelors in Business.

Whats a masters one can get to turn it around?

Lunatick
Lunatick

I see no mention of Supply Chain Management here...?

Isn't there money in Logistics?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Lord_Tryzalot
Sleep in the studio every night. Plus you gotta be able to convincingly sell your ideas.

@Firespawn
Veeky Forums doesn't know very much about the research world.

Snarelure
Snarelure

still have time to choose my major.
Is financial mathematics is any good compared to a regular mathematics degree with a finance minor?
Which one will employers prefer?

farquit
farquit

@Snarelure
The person who has more connections or more skills.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Firespawn
Implying that majoring in History is better than being a carpenter

StonedTime
StonedTime

AS vs AAS Accounting?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@viagrandad
why do they put Physics so high up then?
I assumed this is about how much money you earn.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@farquit
This. College is a lot of theoretical bullshit. Pick a high ranked major and network and learn skills. Much more effective than trying to learn abstract algebra to keep your GPA up.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@hairygrape
sucks to be you user

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@BinaryMan
A lot of hiring managers don't know any better and just label all computer science related things as IT.

I got a job as an "IT Intern" but all I did was build web pages.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I'm all about power and status what should I study?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@CodeBuns
Depends on your country user. God tier in the UK, but there's not need for me to go into detail if you're from outside the UK.

Inmate
Inmate

Accounting

Snarelure
Snarelure

study comp sci
create app/software
sell for $100M

Imean why the fuck not

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@StonedTime
bump.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Raving_Cute

why is law so low?

normally you have to do a double degree with law, and it opens up alot of avenues into business. i know a few people who did law and moved into stuff like HR, risk management ect. and are earning relatively a lot of money in their late 20's. they dont even have to do the 12hr grind young lawyers do.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Graduated with a degree in mining engineering. Couldn't find mining work because I had no co-op experience, had average grades, and graduated at a time when the industry was suffering (2014). It's still suffering, as are my peers - I looked up my graduation cohort on linkedIn and crunched the numbers. 39% of them are employed as engineers, and 31% of them are employed in a mining-related field. Pretty shitty overall, but such is life in a boom-and-bust industry.

My work history since graduation has been pretty checkered. I did civil engineering for 8 months because I wanted to get engineering experience for my P.Eng. I had a reasonable pay rate and it was a great learning experience, I loved my boss, but the work wasn't for me. Now I'm a metallurgical EIT and volunteer at an MIT-accredited Fab Lab. I'm making reasonable money (55k/yr in a low-cost-of-living area), am highly respected by my co-workers, have extremely flexible hours and love the job. All I do is design and improve metal-purifying systems. So far I've managed to create 99.99991% pure indium from 99.99% pure material, and I'm fairly sure that I'll be able to achieve 99.99999% purity in my current production run.

girlDog
girlDog

@Nude_Bikergirl

con't

I'm not sure if I'd recommend anybody becoming a mining engineer right now. While the money can be great (my buddy is making six figures, untaxed right now and he's just 23 years old), it's a tough industry to break into and you can't understate how rough looking for work is during a bust in the industry can feel.

On the other hand the metallurgical sciences are actually really fun! If you can get a gig like mine and enjoy learning all day and actually getting to run experiments with an experienced tech to help you out, I'd suggest giving metallurgy or the materials sciences a chance. Maybe I'm a little bit autistic in that I actually enjoy troubleshooting and collecting data, but a lot of you are too. Give it a go if you're looking for a fun career.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Raving_Cute
About to try to do finance major and computer science minor

Anyone know if these disciplines are good for making money? (my preference is to work in field regarding AI trading)

Techpill
Techpill

@kizzmybutt
Be really good at programming and you will make 6 figures starting. That said, the places where you get 6 figures also happen to be expensive.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Techpill
thanks. do you recommend any particular language?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Firespawn
To put more context, my friend got an internship at Etsy which turned into a full time job, so he didn't search at all. He makes 6 figures. He uses the LAMP stack at work. If you really want to make the money, you really need to have the skill and be able to demonstrate it.

To answer your question, it really depends on what you are trying to do. If you are trying to get a job, I would recommend building a portfolio of your work to help you get hired. Also, if you're in school, learn the theoretical stuff(data structures and algorithms) as that is the one advantage you get over self learned programmers. If you are starting out, the language doesn't really matter, but I would say Python, just because it's so easy. Once you learn one language, learning others is much easier.

TechHater
TechHater

@Firespawn

english

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

I studied English/History in order to become a high school teacher.
In Germany, that's approximately 54k$ starting salary.

I love my job and think it does not belong to suicide tier :^)

Methshot
Methshot

Got a master in Supply Chain after a bachelor in Humanities. How fucked am I

Firespawn
Firespawn

@New_Cliche
Same bro

Teaching is fucking great. I spend all day just screwing around with my students, reading, writing, watching movies, listening to music, talking, laughing...

I spent the last week of school going on fieldtrips. We went on like 3 fieldtrips back to back. Getting PAID to swim, eat hotdogs, and ride rollercoasters? Come on!

And now that school's out, I've just been, well, mostly day-drinking and going to the beach.

I'll take $50k to spend 3/4 of every year doing what I love and 1/4 of every year doing whatever the fuck I want. Fuck yeah

DeathDog
DeathDog

Accounting and Finance
One semester out from both degrees

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@RumChicken
why is law so low?
Because getting a job in law is very difficult and a law degree isn't actually all that helpful for getting a job in law. So long story short, you're better off just doing something like history.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@New_Cliche
Maybe in America. Anybody who can speak and write in 2 or more major European languages competently can walk into a job easy here in Ireland.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Raving_Cute
Agricultural economics. Starting graduate school next year to get my masters in Agricultural and Applied economics

JunkTop
JunkTop

@viagrandad
Will you work for an evil company like Monsanto?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@whereismyname
It's not. Engineering, science, medicine and maybe a few others is though.

Flameblow
Flameblow

I'm doing IT, going to a trade school for the but I also wanna go to college to learn something.

Like a back up, how's Accounting like?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Raving_Cute
English Literature. Kill me now.

inb4 trAIDs

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Any EE's out there want to comment on their job and how they like it. I'm an EE student and currently work in ITS for a dB firm, shits boring as Fuck. Every day im ether doing CAD or writing power reports. Is there anything better out there?

TechHater
TechHater

@VisualMaster
I work as an EE doing prototype ships for the military and it's very interesting.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@TalkBomber
at least you are having fun

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

International Business with a Spanish minor

Evilember
Evilember

@SniperWish
Currently debating going this route, what do you do?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Anyone wanna chime in on an IT degree? Want to go back to school but also don't want to waste everything I've saved up for a 10/hr help desk job hellhole.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@TechHater
EE in the Military

Oh hey, future me if everything goes right.

How hard is it to make it into the military as an officer with a degree? What branch are you in?

whereismyname
whereismyname

Double major in Applied Mathematics and Economics at one uni, law at another.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Stupidasole
I'm not from USA. I'm in Europe working for SAAB.

askme
askme

@Soft_member
Saab? Wait what? Saab went out of business I thought

idontknow
idontknow

@askme
Consumer brands is not the same as a company. Nokia and SAAB both are still alive and well.
http://saab.com/naval/

Emberfire
Emberfire

@AwesomeTucker
More info required man.
What country?
Part Time study? How long to complete?

Personally, I think any investment in yourself has to be worthwhile. A degree could open doors.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@idontknow
Gotcha

Well... I miss their cars. That's all I know.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@hairygrape

ME TOO

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Emberfire

US, trying to go into full time study. Probably about 2 years to complete. I'm in my mid 20s and it's daunting reading how the majority of the people in this field have been doing it their whole lives, so getting a degree this late night not even be beneficial.

idontknow
idontknow

@Raving_Cute
microbiology good tier LMFAO my professor has a phd and cant find a job

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Stupidasole
Mid 20's is nothing. Practically still in nappies!!!
I don't know much about the US system. The only advice i can offer is follow your gut.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Carnalpleasure

Follow your gut

I can't. I'm indecisive as hell. It's why I still have no idea what to do. Fortunatrly I make decent money for a basic job, makes stressing over this stuff a lot easier.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Is being a history teacher in the US suicide tier? Is it really that saturated? What can I do to improve my portfolio to land a job if I major in history or polysci?

18
have 1k saved up (only worked 2 jobs in my life, used to be a stoner but got my shit together and have been sober my last 2 years)
have a huge passion for political science and history, with no strong political opinions one way or another. I just love dissecting everything. I just learn useless shit in my free time
worried about college and due to parents financial situation, have to attend community college for 2 yrs first

I don't know what to do. I want to pursue my passion, but I'm also anxious. I'm decently tech-savvy but pretty awful at math. The most I can do is some freelance web developer stuff on the side, but pajeet is kicking my ass right now in that market.

Any suggestions?

Evilember
Evilember

@Gigastrength
Stop saying you're awful at math. It's not true. It's just a mental block you've placed on yourself to convince yourself that it's okay to not spend hours studying like everyone else.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Evilember
Honestly you're right. I'm just so worried because I've gained nothing from the math classes in high school. I didn't absorb any of the information.

I just feel I don't have the foundation there you know? This could also just be me trying to rationalize not working hard, I don't know. I'm indecisive and anxious user.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Who Advertising here?

I've been considering this major as a back up for a while.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@hairygrape
Engineering?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

doing geography

fucking kill me. the only subject at school that i liked and the only thing i can do with it is become a teacher. i'm either going to focus on GIS stuff or learn something useful once i leave uni

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Gigastrength
Ask yourself these questions:

would you genuinely, sincerely be happy teaching?
what's more important to you, time or money?

Only you can answer those questions, but me? I love teaching and I value time over money.

I've got friends making 90,000+ a year, and they work constantly. I'm not even sure they get vacation time, like, at all. And if they do, they're probably still working on their phones, sending emails and shit. Not even sure they like their jobs...

Me? 45k / year but I love what I do and I get 3 months paid vacation every year. You know what I did today? Went to the beach and drank beer. You know what I'm doing tomorrow? Going to the beach and drinking more beer. And I'll still collect a nice little middle class paycheck at the end of next week.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@New_Cliche
its actually 45k€ maximal. Assuming Gymnasiallehrer. You only make 20€/h and your free time is being robbed by useless meetings and such.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@New_Cliche
Additionally: Eng/His is literally the worst combination straight after Ger/His.

You are fucked.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@girlDog
studying physics

Soft_member
Soft_member

Geophysics+Math
Like being in a tent so thought why the fuck not

idontknow
idontknow

@RavySnake
the second i saw robert the kike reich appear I knew this video was going to be downright retarded.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@idontknow
Sure you did.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@AwesomeTucker
I did, in fact. What's your point? do you disagree with me?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Eng Writing Major
Eng Lit Minor

I have my own apartment and new car.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

economics major, undecided minor, probably cs. Hopefully I can get into forecasting.

Might do a MS at my shitty uni since I could easily do it, and would probably look pretty good on my resume.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@PurpleCharger
Chem major here.

6 months after graduation, now wondering why I did this.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Guess I fall in the "Goort" category.

I'm in Pharmacy Informatics.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Raving_Cute
how the fuck is chemistry god tier, I'm a recent grad chem major, and the ONLY internship i got was a shit lab bench position, which I hated. Had to co-found a fucking 3dprinting start-up just to get experience that won't make me fucking hate my life.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Accounting and Political Science?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@idontknow
agreed, microbiology is bullshit, this chart is bullshit

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Raving_Cute
Philosophy
Shit tier but I would do it again

massdebater
massdebater

Dual degree with chemical engineering and finance. I work in brewing at the moment, decent pay and ok job. Got a lot of job offers from banks but after doing the degree, I feel like unless you are doing risk analysis your job is going to be suicide tier

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Stark_Naked
You can get jobs with a physics degree, just not I physics.

Financials institutions occasionally hire them for their mathematical aptitude.

WebTool
WebTool

@idontknow
I have a B.A. in econ and it was mostly math/stat/econometrics. Also learned Stata/SAS/R through it. I dont think a degree should be judged by its cover

Illusionz
Illusionz

@lostmypassword
You can just teach yourself outside of school and skip the loan.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@BunnyJinx
hasn't engineered bacteria that either
A: eats cancer
B: accumulates the gold in sea water

shit creative thinking skills senpai
@WebTool
Why not do stats with a minor in econ then?
implying economics is a science

FastChef
FastChef

Currently in college for UI/UX, wat tier & anyone else doing something similar

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@StrangeWizard
How can I tell if I will love teaching?

What are the signs I will? What if I have social anxiety?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Deadlyinx
It's a hard thing to know because the teaching classes you'll take won't really give you a good idea of what being a teacher is really like. You'll teach someone else's lesson to someone else's students and it will feel really "flat" and unrewarding.

But the ability to get up in front of people and talk, not just talk but instruct and teach and manage, is crucial and if the thought of that gives you anxiety, you might not want to go into teaching.

So my advice would be to take 1 or 2 education classes where you do a little fieldwork and just see if you can do it. After that, imagine having your own class with your own students and being able to do it your way. If that thought appeals to you, maybe you should be a teacher.

5mileys
5mileys

@Raving_Cute
*Jobs are rated by employment, usefulness to market, salary, and environment
hurr astronomy>nursing>psychology durr
Where are these stats coming from, the 19th century?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Finished my commercial law major a few weeks ago

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Raving_Cute
Fixed your image OP

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Stupidasole
tfw the people giving you the most shit about being stressed over finishing your mathematics degree are a theology masters and a social work bachelors.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Raving_Cute
Philosophy shit tier
Petrol Engineer unbelievable tier

Please print out this image macro, dunk it in napalm, light it, and insert it into your anus.

girlDog
girlDog

@Stupidasole
I think this is right.

I think actuary>Engg, CE here that was contemplating becoming an actuary

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Soft_member
It's only recently falling from grace, but petroleum engineering used to be an elder god tier major with one of the highest starting salaries of any non-med degree.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Boy_vs_Girl
Compensation doesn't translate into the significance of your work, it only measures how replaceable you are.
Great cause I have the talent to perfectly balance two tables on top of each other on my forehead. Guess the Circus will pay me as much as a cardiac surgeon gets paid, I mean, there's not a lot of people who can do what I can.

Methshot
Methshot

@Raving_Cute
Psychology
tbf I think people have some misconceptions about what is actually studi but i'm sure it'd still be in shit tier

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Raving_Cute
Computer Science senpai, just graduated and I'm making 6 figures straight out of college. Ask me anything, the meme is real.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@StonedTime
Did you have a portfolio of your programming work? Did you get an internship which turned into a job after graduating?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@StrangeWizard
Did you have a portfolio of your programming work?
Nope never had anything like that. Most companies don't care honestly, just how well you perform in the interview. I was always above average on algorithm/data structure knowledge and I know to be friendly.

Did you get an internship which turned into a job after graduating?
I had internships with two companies before graduating but I didn't end up joining either of them. Senior year I just interviewed around couple companies that came to my uni career fair.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Hey guys, question. I have an opportunity to intern with northwestern mutual. It's a life insurance/financial advising company.

I just did some research however and apparently the job involves using a personal network at times. I.e., friends and family. I'm not sure this is the career for me. I'm almost done with a management degree which is honestly a pretty bad degree so I'm not sure what else to do because I'm going to be needing a job.

You think it's worth it to try the internship? If anything maybe to de autist myself? I've never been incredibly outgoing or good at sales but I mean even if I don't like the job at all I think it might be a beneficial internship. Is it a good or bad idea?

The rep said that starting pay is on average 55k a year out of school and people who have worked there 10+ years make on average 300k. which sounds like a load of big fucking bullshit. I believe the pay is commission based

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@JunkTop
From what school? Also, did you read flat chemistry or engineering?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@PurpleCharger

It's a trap, user. In all seriousness.

First and foremost, your pay at the beginning (first 3 months at least) is actually just a "loan" from your future commission. So in other words, they aren't actually paying you. You're starting a loan and paying yourself - if you quit, you'll just owe northwestern money. If you don't quit, your future pay will be decreased to pay the company back.

Second, the job is like this. One day one. READ: FIRST DAY. You write the first and last names, email addresses, and phone numbers of 100 people you know. This is almost always (read: always) your closest family and friends, plus some people you met at school, or knew in the past. Teachers, neighbors etc. You sign a document that gives NW the right to own the list.

Then, your job, is basically to sell life insurance to these people - your friends and family. NW calls these "heads." If you do not make any sales or if you quit, NW owns the list and has your permission to work the leads. Your family/friends will be pestered for years completely outside of your control and the "do not call" list does not apply, since the information was "generated by individual research."

Finally, like many things in life, the job is not fair. Do not get me wrong, there have been many people who just busted ass and/or got lucky doing this job and are now very rich after building a book of business, etc. HOWEVER. For 99% of NW's victims, this is a trap not only because of reasons 1 and 2, but also reason 3: Nobody you know wants to buy life insurance. The folks who may actually need/want it already have it - and they got a better deal than NW can offer and all the people around your age do not fucking want/need life insurance. Just think - do YOU want life insurance? lmao no. I'm 28 and I don't want or need it. Additionally, most people have insurance through their work.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@PurpleCharger
@Lord_Tryzalot

Finally, most "success stories" find success in one of three ways:

1.) They come from an insurance family. Literally - their dad/mom sells insurance and literally give them leads OR let them have old clients. I overuse literally here to express that you must believe this is the most common way.
2.) The family sympathy purchase. One head on your list will buy it simply to support you. NW banks on this and it's still part of the trap. The one sale will not be enough to support you, however, and you will still likely fail in a few months - but NW does not care. 1 sale for 1 new rep - even out of 1,000 hires is cost effective for them - especially since they're not even paying you.

3.) Working hard, finding a bit of luck, developing your own book of business from scratch. Since this is what all salesmen do, I would recommend finding another industry to do it in.

Good luck user

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@StonedTime
Bachelor's degree? How often do you work? How enjoyable is it?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@PurpleCharger
Fell for this. Cost me 300 buckaroos and two months of my time.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Fuzzy_Logic
Bachelor's degree?
Yes
How often do you work?
40 hour weeks. I just started very recently so I haven't really experience having to work super long overtime or anything.
How enjoyable is it?
It's satisfying, I work on interesting problems and I have a lot of leeway on how to solve it. And I get the typical tech company perks like free lunch, unlimited PTO, cell phone reimbursement, etc. while being in a pretty low col state which lets me walk to work.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@hairygrape
wew

Inmate
Inmate

@TurtleCat
i have been told this so many times - "your career isnt what you are." You know what it means to me? FUCK YOU. Because every choice I made, all my genetics, all of my entire being, got me the job I have today BECAUSE of my personality. Your job is a reflection of who you are and anyone who says otherwise is just inciting bullshit.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Emberfire
How expensive will law school be?

@BinaryMan
Government construction sounds pretty cool to me brah

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Third year Med student from turkey. Here we study 6 years and get a bachelor in medicine first. I plan to specialize in either radiology or nuclear medicine later.

All my friends envy me. But i curse the day I wanted to be a fucking doctor

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Spazyfool
You're going to have a safe and well-paid career for life, people will always respect you, and chicks will always want to suck your dick. Quit bitching.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@SomethingNew
you have seriously saved me so much fucking hassle and bullshit. I wish there were more than words I could offer you, but know that it's VERY much appreciated.

Thank you user.

Firespawn
Firespawn

To do Robotics, Electrical or Computer Engineering?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Bidwell
Thanks for the tough love user

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Bidwell

Being a doctor when socialized healthcare is eminent....the glory days of American healthcare are over. Soon we'll have a universal VA care.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Accounting, thinking about either tagging on a double major in either finance or Management Information Systems.

For anybody that has done the MIS route, would you say it has helped you considerably?

Inmate
Inmate

@Methnerd
Same but I think it's in the right spot, for the majority of schools (mine included) it's basically "couldn't hack it in compsci."

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Garbage Can Lid
I'm just being jealous because I wish I had done medicine. I don't mean to belittle your grievances. Those are some of the positives I would identify though.

@King_Martha
Well I'm a Brit so we've had social healthcare for as long as I can remember. There's definitely a lot of stress in our National Health Service. Which is bad. The strain that doctors are under these days is fucking insane. But, they have good salaries, and very good pensions, and the thing about being a doctor is that your skills are always in demand in every country in the world, which presents a few opportunities.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Carnalpleasure
I wasn't being sarcastic user, I honestly found your realism refreshing. Hope you will get wherever you want in your life

Emberburn
Emberburn

@StonedTime
Thanks man.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Emberfire
You should think long and hard about law school before going into it. I'm serious. It's an enormous commitment and it's not like years ago. I'm not trying to dissuade you, but it's something you need to think about.

Most law school students fail to consider whether they should even become a lawyer at all. Lawyering is nothing -- repeat -- nothing like how you imagine it to be. It's an unbelievable amount of work, stressful work, and IF you even get a job practicing law (see below) you can expect to put in 60 hour weeks that will look something like this:

taking phone calls from pain in the ass client
reassure client that you're getting everything together
work all week long on some complex summary judgement or some shit
feeling good about it
come in on Monday and read your emails
email from opposing counsel yadda yadda you look it over and...oh shit...
realize that the game has changed completely and all the work you were doing is now useless
you explain the situation to your client and he wants a reduction on his bill
he threatens to file a complaint with the bar association and that's the last thing you need
end up writing off half those hours you worked on that stupid no-longer applicable summary judgement
time to get to work!......again!

But that's if you can even GET a job. They're graduating like 2 law school students now for every 1 open spot actually practicing. If you don't: a.) Go to a top tier law school, b.) Graduate top of your class, c.) Have awesome connections ... you should probably not even pursue law. It's just the unfortunate reality.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Raving_Cute
Law enforcement in same tier as Cyber Security and Law. Nigger what even

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Nude_Bikergirl
And most of the lawyers you speak to will even tell you straight-up that if they could do it all over again, they wouldn't go into law.

The money *can* be great. The work *can* be rewarding. That shrewd, lawyery swagger and bravado is always fun. But it's just not worth it when you're putting in 60 hours a week, writing off hours here and there, taking calls from asshole clients who think they know better than you and expect you to somehow do the impossible. It's a lot.

I was considering law school for a long time. I love the idea of it but I know the reality would be so much different. I'll live vicariously through those lawyer friends of mine when we go out for drinks. That's enough for me.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@JunkTop
Nah my plan right now is to get a job with the USDA for a while and start up a farm in a few years once I save up some cash

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@LuckyDusty
gotcha.

i am reading this
https://www.quora.com/What-should-my-college-major-be-if-I-am-wanting-to-get-into-designing-artificial-intelligence

apparently i need to do this
"You will need a strong foundation in theoretical CS. I'm not talking about an in-depth knowledge of quantum computing or complexity classes, I'm talking mostly about data structures like trees and hash tables. This goes both for theoretical AI and for engineering-based AI. It is inevitable that you will need to deal with CS at this level, and not having a good knowledge of it will probably be bad for you."

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@StonedTime
where did u go?

and nice!

Evilember
Evilember

@idontknow
What skills do you need to become a marketing consultant?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@kizzmybutt
@Gigastrength
I don't think you have a realistic view on AI research. You're gonna need to go to grad school for any employer or uni to take you seriously. It's not a simple subject and is very heavy on math, stat, and cs theory.

Inmate
Inmate

Optical Engineer

5mileys
5mileys

Mechanical engineering, fuckers. I'm gonna smoke weed on the hyperloop, bitches.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Raving_Cute
Mechanical Engineer

Yeah I ain't Unbelievable but I have the most potential of all engineers. I can branch out to anything else in the field.

Which means it deserves to be the best degree anyone with a brain should get.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Raving_Cute
I don't fucking know - I can't make up my mind.

All my life I self studied theology - occultism - history of religions, and now more than ever I have a genuine interest in pure theology, I've self studied most of college material.

I'm also capable of getting a profession in programming - but not sure I'll be as happy doing it... really don't know what to do.

WebTool
WebTool

@RumChicken
fuck yeah, how far in are you?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@WebTool
Last year. A year of depression fucked up my 4 year goal but im okay with it.

My last semester is gonna be amazing with only my Senior Design class being the only Mech class I need. Take 3 other classes and I'm gonna have an easy 12 hour spring.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@GoogleCat
@WebTool
Mech Eng PE here, 4 years in industry, 93k. Keep up the hard work, you'll go places.

askme
askme

@Raving_Cute
I'd like to go into UX Design but its so hard to know what degree it is on this list. Working with computers, making sweet products, websites, being a "thought leader", making the good vidya getting the nice 70K+ doing it, seems like a good life.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Raving_Cute
God tier physics reporting in

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@w8t4u
@GoogleCat
would an mba be worth it on top?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Nuclear energy here. It's hard as fuck, I don't enjoy it, and I'm not gonna earn lods of emone in my country. At least I am almost guaranteed an employment though.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@VisualMaster
Okay, this is the best advice I got from one of my Professors who basically was there for all of Apollo.

Get your Bachelors and then get a job. Don't go straight for your Masters.

Why pay for it yourself when you can have your employer pay for it?

Its a great trade off of free education with the trade off of you have to grantee work there for whatever years they think is fair for your tuition.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Raving_Cute
Philosophy/History/Religion

I work in finance now. Decent base salary, good commissions. I just wish I had started earlier instead of wasting those years studying that shit. I find it very interesting, but I didn't learn anything I couldn't just find in books on online. I could have been at this point at 23.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Microbio and genetics
CRISPR is bae

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Bidwell
what exactly do you do in finance that is so interesting?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

im a mechanical engineer but im also trained in computer engineering

How fucked am i

likme
likme

@kizzmybutt
In the end, what matters is your skill. Since you are trying to do finance with CS minor, you need a lot of mathematics. You should focus a lot on mathematics, and the finance and CS will become easier. I say that as a math major. It's easier to learn CS from a math background, but its harder to learn math from CS. The math I'm talking about is higher level mathematics, not calculus or before. Stuff like graph theory is helpful for learning data structures for example. You may need to talk to an advisor in school about this, as well as your professors if you are really certain what to do.

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