value to society
OK, let’s run with that.
#1 belongs in prison.
child rapist and murderer
That's a pretty strong example.
The nigger is raping kids and killing them now?
We were discussing a weed dealer as an example,
Which I would argue could contribute to society if he was allowed to sell said product without having to get a fucking degree in pharmacology, and could operated legitimately in a free market and pay tax.
How about that?
For thousands of years of history, he would have been considered no worse than a pharmacist or herbalist with possibly some anger management issues. (I'm not violent, but have been in many fights, if you are getting beaten up and fight back, it's a fight) a self-employed trader or pedlar of medicinal herbs.
What 'education' do you think he is likely to get in prison? More info on scams, crime tips, criminal contacts, a bit of networking perhaps?
I smoke weed. Erryday.
So, to me, and approximately 300 million people on the planet, at least, a weed dealer is very fucking valuable, and only a criminal for political reasons.
A political prisoner.
What's the difference between a legal weed seller, in a state-approved store, in certain states / countries, and a street dealer?
'society prepares the crime, the criminal commits it'
I don't know why you jumped to 'child rapist / killer' then reverted back to 'petty career criminal'
As for stealing, I think the amount taken needs to be considered too. Would you feel ok about getting the maximum sentence for theft for stealing a pen from work?
I would say they are both equally likely to offend, since crime is rarely a one-time deal, and many are opportunistic. The petty criminal has more opportunities, but less opportunity or skill to embezzle and launder.
not the point.
It's exactly the point, his upbringing and environment were a disadvantage.
If his kids had the same disadvantages,
They would be less likely to be successful.