Find a flaw (there isnt one)

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

saved up $1000 for stocks
waiting until stock market crashes which shouldn't be long
go in

Find a flaw (there isnt one).

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ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

yeah you're doing it right. buy low sell high.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oICHvlqApBc

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@CouchChiller
which shouldn't be long
Find a flaw
Found it.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

trying to time the market
not dollar cost averaging

l0l

whereismyname
whereismyname

@CouchChiller

the flaw is you only have $1000 and your plan is to "go in" you don't even know what stocks you're going to buy

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

implying the next market crash won't go up again.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Raving_Cute
actually he was implying the opposite, that it will be a great time to buy?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@whereismyname
Many reputable economists predict a crash very soon. If this happens Apple stocks will plummet and I will most likely be investing all 1k in Apple stocks.

God I want the stock market to crash so bad. Not only for the sake of stocks, but all these large corporations (that rely on stocks and thus lower their prices killing smaller businesses) will get completely fucked. *cough* amazon

iluvmen
iluvmen

@viagrandad

lel, if there was then it would be priced in

nobody knows jack, if there's one piece of advice I could give it would be that nobody knows jack, and "experts" are just people that got lucky on a few predictions in a row.

Based on your analysis "large corporations rely on stocks and will kill small business" and having only 1k to "invest" I'd say you're around 16-19 years old, and you should put that money in an emergency fund until you have 6 months expenses covered.

Methshot
Methshot

@iluvmen
based on your analysis
you're around 16-19 years old

This isn't "my analysis", this is facts. Amazon relies on stocks as a way to sell at rates they would be losing lots of money. This obviously hurts competition that does not rely on the stock market. So if the stock market crashed and these big corps took a hit, small businesses would do better. how much, i'm not sure.

Evilember
Evilember

@CouchChiller
Here's your flaw: you can't time the market.

Nobody can. If you could, why aren't you working at a hedge fund making millions a year?

Rather, why aren't the PhD's in nuclear engineering from MIT who work as quants at high frequency trading firms able to time the market?

Because nobody can time the market.

WebTool
WebTool

@Evilember
Of course I am not 100% sure and could definitely be wrong. I just wouldn't be surprised if it crashes sometime soon.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

So you are going to invest $1000 in a blue chip stock when it's low, even if you get it at a steal it will only go back up 5-10% max and that is if you hold it for an obscene period of time.

You should go to the casino you will have more fun

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@viagrandad
Wait for a single company to crash so hard it causes the whole stock market to crash
Go all in on that failing company.

Guess what bud, with that genius plan your 1k will quickly turn into 0 when the company files for bankruptcy

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@CodeBuns
he thinks the company will permanently fall and the market will never go up again

Illusionz
Illusionz

@CouchChiller

If professionals and academics cannot time the market, you cannot time the market.

People have been saying the stock market is going to crash since 2011. They have been wrong every year. If you held off from investing in 2011 to wait for share prices to fall you would have been a fool and missed out on significant returns in the meantime.

This is why you don't try to time the market. You will lose out on average. The best approach agreed upon by most professionals is this @StrangeWizard

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@GoogleCat
That's exactly what happens if a company were to crash so hard that it spawns an entire stock market collapse.

If you're waiting on a stock market crash to get into stocks you're a fucking moron for a few reasons:

1) Betting on the market to collapse is fucking retarded with only 1k. Your standard of living will go down immensely compared to the appreciation of your tiny investment a few years down the road.
2) Putting all your money down on a single stock is already moronic as hell. Doing so during the most volatile time frame (a stock market crash) can only be explained by an extra chromosome.

If companies never folded, we would still have the British East India Trading Company ruling the corporate world. Putting all your money into a consumer electronics company as it is dying is essentially the same as lighting your money on fire.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@CouchChiller
You're gonna wait a long time if it doesn't happen tomorrow it won't happen until Trump is elected.

Also fuck off in advance, I am not a shill but the stock market is one of the few good things left under Obama and Hillary = Obama so its just logical.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@CouchChiller
Find a flaw (there isnt one).

Barring everything else have said... You don't have enough money to profit significantly.

farquit
farquit

@CouchChiller
bahhahahaa at autists saying you can't time the market.
i bought asx:pdz at 12c and sold at 72c. was like a 3 year hold. Also, asx:wbc at like 16 dollars, and sold at 27 after gfc. u retards shoot down ideas.
no one can time the market
you would be a hedge fund manager if you could

feed my ego more, faggots, watching you retards deny anyone can predict something is hilarious.
i predicted this bitcoin bubble like a week ago and ill dig it out of the Veeky Forums archives to show you how autistic you are, and to feed my almighty ego.

i have a half hour look at a company and i can pay more capital gains tax on a three year investment than what you will earn in your life.

learn that you are never 100% correct, and then figure out how to get as close to it as possible.

5mileys
5mileys

@AwesomeTucker
Fkucing lool saaaav

Playboyize
Playboyize

@farquit

Even a broken clock shows the correct time twice a day

Snarelure
Snarelure

@farquit
My nigga. Even if your bullshitting your confidence is appealing. I'd invest in your product

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Playboyize
correct, my sir. but i make very few investments. send some stock quotes and ill show you my ego at work.

@Snarelure

i know come off as an arrogant cuck, but i work hard every day to learn, analyse, and warp my intuition to the point where i have a deluded sense of confidence. send me something to take a look at.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@BinaryMan
I'm 20, 10k saved up, making 55k a year.

Where do i invest

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

2.0 plan

keep saving up more and more until the crash
set a target percent on the crash (like -15%)
each year lower your target percentage by like 3% so eventually you do go in

Literally free money.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@GoogleCat
/biz/thread/1319028#p1319028 i am the fourth last post- shit coloured ID- thats my predictability. "sell now" hours before the plummet.

where are you from? what industry do you work in?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Evilember
nuclear engineer
time the market

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@BinaryMan
You haven't taken any advanced math

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Snarelure
quick once i get out of bath i want to do something :)
pic related for proof if you read my last posts.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@farquit
GALE do your work.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Stark_Naked
huehue :) my work is laughable currently. im out of bath now so ill be a few hours for the next reply.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Crazy_Nice
alls well take your time man.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Crazy_Nice
soo?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

waiting for OP to reply with
location
debt
current investments

but im waiting for a crash too because i cbf competing with the market while working part time/studying. there are investment principles that lead to success if you know how to analyse, and all I do is make sure they won't fail me. do any anons have questions? i would like to get some educated discussions goin'.
what about amd/nvda- are we pleased with their polaris/kepler or whatever nvda had? i tied emotion into these companys long ago so no fkn way am i tossing my money at them.
controversy guaranteed:
amd will beat nvidia later this FY with better GPU perf/dollar and total market share
inb4 NVDA stock price correction

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Need_TLC
ROFLMAO

If this isn't bait, then you don't understand Fed manipulation. Even Obama has said, market=/=economy

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Lord_Tryzalot
oh yeah if you were looking for stock picks, there are none atm that i myself wouldn't put my own money on.
Suggest some and ill take a look?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@CouchChiller
I agree with you dude I am looking forward to doing the same, so many stock market indexes outside the USA are down %16 or more YTD. Only a matter of time til we have a new Lehman moment, perhaps it will be Deutsche Bank this time.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@iluvmen
wanted to know your opinion on GALE. was a stock i was looking at.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@TurtleCat
This is the real answer. Don't expect to make much on that little amount of capital.

Of course do what you want, just do it to learn, not to make that mad bank

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Sharpcharm
my bad. ill be back shortly :)

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Sharpcharm
Basically a charity, or an insane gamble.
This company is a long shot. I didn't even bother looking for patents, but this is a cash sucker. Balance sheets are that of a risky, volatile mining company.

If they have plans for revenue anytime soon, they might be worth a second glance. But to me it looks like the share price is based on the share price and the market. The owners have no share of the company, unlike plenty of other good-looking companies with a stable cash income.

What is your reason for looking at it?
I wouldn't go near it with a hazmat suit on.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@JunkTop
Phase 3 Data for a breast cancer treatment , and an FDA fast tracked.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Ignoramus
Still wouldn't go near it. Medicine is interesting because of the potential, but for small companies, they are about as volatile as oil markets because of reliance on funding and debt accumulation.
Even if they did pass everything, that shit is expensive to produce. The thing with this industry is that there are low returns on investment, and everyone is scrambling in a clusterfuck to "find the cure for cancer".
I honestly have no idea about the medical industry, but the principles behind this one don't assure the smallest bit of confidence.

Also, i know of a nyse:mrk bloke doing these cancer-drug-miracle-pills, and even that isn't really a safe investment.

Do you know the industry? Genuine question.
Because I don't and I see that this is one of those long-shot investments.
(I'm on my PC now)

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Lunatick
not sure but its made me some money. What are some stocks you're looking into right now?

farquit
farquit

@CouchChiller
The flaw is you, you'll probably invest in a company that folds early on because you're a dumbass.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Spamalot
None. I only usually actively invest in an industry before a boom, or invest in something with some intriguing patents. There are companies like NVDA that I bet will go through rough years ahead, if you're into shorting. But as I said way above, I have an emotional attachment to the tech industry and because of that I refuse to invest in it.

Depends on your niche. Mine is getting the market by its balls when it crashes and holding until I make enough profit for a few years where I don't touch the market. What industry do you work in?

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Bidwell
Just a NEET trying to get into IB after i graduate. Currently working at a teller at one of the bigger banks. Only 18 years old i got time. I'm only investing as a way to learn more about the financial world and seeing what impacts the flow of the market. And yourself?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Need_TLC
Wow.

Please let this be bait.

I don't want to believe people this fucking demented exist.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Illusionz
People have been saying the stock market is going to crash since 2011. They have been wrong every year.
yeah the feds fuckery won't be kept up for long tho... investigate the reasons and understand why those predictions failed and what changed in the late years.
there is no guarantee but there is reason to expect it.
not dollar cost averaging
i wouldn't start that in a bubble tho it would just feel wrong

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Firespawn
Won't elaborate too much, but I live with my parents who are very smart with their money, trying to gain knowledge from them. I finish school very soon. I'm basically in the same boat in terms of learning the market even more. I work in retail- I'm a checkout bro to be precise.

You always have time, and the way I see it, if you sacrifice some time and energy now to save some later, you're headed the right way.
Going into IT- Basically doing a cadetship in the accounting world, but for IT.

Not what you would have thought I was, I can assume, but hey, money isn't a problem and I doubt it ever will be, and I genuinely enjoy my casual job, gaining a fair amount of perspective from the customers and the people I work with.

Anyway, if this thread dies, I really hope you go somewhere that you enjoy- I think our age is the border between anti-social kids raised on ipads/ipods, and generic wageslaves who work too hard and lack the ability to deviate from the normal. So take advantage of an oil collapse that will happen in our lifetime, nuclear fusion, AI, VR, zika/futureAIDS, mass food/land shortages, and maybe if we are lucky, a properly implemented, mainstream blockchain.

Supergrass
Supergrass

all the faggots yelling you can't time the market, well you can with long positions if you are not in a hurry.
some things are just bound to happen sooner or later if you are ready you can jump in at your entry criteria and jump out at your exit criteria. if you defined these well it will work.
for example sooner or later silver will have an other rally and if you bought at the low like $13 or something you will make profit on it. no guarantees of course just a very strong probability. you calculate like you want 10% for each year and you were holding it for 5 years and you sell it at $23 you are good. you don't have to exactly time the top or panic sell when it all goes down from a bubble.

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