What are revolution-proof jobs? What are jobs that might be good in a...

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

What are revolution-proof jobs? What are jobs that might be good in a revolution?

I imagine communist would hire a lot of civil engineers to build public work projects and robotics people might do well since they want to automate work.

Careers that might do bad are finance and wallstreet people and anyone who works with consumer electronics. If there was a revolution electrical engineers should specialize in large power distribution system instead of micro-electronics.

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http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/06/27/syrias-war-on-doctors
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/06/27/syrias-war-on-doctors
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/06/27/syrias-war-on-doctors
Evilember
Evilember

Every society will always need accountants.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@AwesomeTucker
What are revolution-proof jobs?

Being a poorfag

cum2soon
cum2soon

@AwesomeTucker

Why does there have to be a revolution? The only revolution we should ever have should be to gas all the stupid liberal poor people that make noise about "revolution" because they're lazy and jealous.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@AwesomeTucker
The next revolution will the the automation revolution. Entry level jobs are about ten to thirty years away from going all but extinct. Even China is laying off workers in favour of robots—that means robots are cheaper than your 10¢ a day labourers. AIs are coming for your business strategist positions, investment platforms, editing offices, and anything else that follows formulas.

Revolution-proofing today is saving as much money as possible, stuffing it all in a briefcase, and fleeing to a poor Asian or African country where the revolution has been delayed due to poor infrastructure and you have friends or some ethnic ties. With that money you set yourself up as a man-on-the-side, like how large business owners sidled up to the USA, establishing yourself as a financial elite who slowly buys out the property owners through a series of proxied land deals and local investments. The one thing a robot can't do in the foreseeable future is own land and live life as a fat cat bourgeois. Find a stable government, with no race or religious war looming, buy land, never sell it, and be an aristocrat.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@AwesomeTucker
selling ropes, of course. you'll make a lot of money fast, at least until you are hanged with your own rope.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

no jobs are; intellectuals are routinely sought out and killed during "revolutions"
look at the khmer rouge, the nazis, the current situation in syria....they all went after people with college degrees specifically

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Fuzzy_Logic
intellectuals are routinely sought out and killed during "revolutions"
the current situation in syria...
source?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Stark_Naked
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/06/27/syrias-war-on-doctors

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@AwesomeTucker
Contract killers

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@AwesomeTucker
Communists hire
All you work belongs to the people/state.

The revolution proof job is the one that lets you get the fuck out.

Most of my family survived the communist revolution in Cuba because of this reason.

Techpill
Techpill

@Poker_Star
Communism is power to the people. Socialism is power to the state.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Lord_Tryzalot
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/06/27/syrias-war-on-doctors

newyorker.com
In the past five years, the Syrian government has assassinated, bombed, and tortured to death almost seven hundred medical personnel, according to Physicians for Human Rights
(Non-state actors, including ISIS, have killed twenty-seven.)
A United Nations commission concluded that “government forces deliberately target medical personnel to gain military advantage,” denying treatment to wounded fighters and civilians “as a matter of policy.”

why do I find this really hard to believe, and what does this has to do with "revolutions" anyway?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Carnalpleasure
It seem counterrevolutionary.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Techpill
They're one and the same if you want effective power.
Unless you want a society wide discussion everytime someone needs a plumber.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Carnalpleasure
very few news sources talk about syria on the front page
most people don't pay attention outside of /pol/ (they have daily Syria threads where the news is discussed / shit is flung)
the syrian civil war was caused by Bashar Al Assad's heavy hand when quashing protests during the arab spring

WebTool
WebTool

@Poker_Star
That wasn't """""""""""""""real""""""""""""""(((((communism))))))

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Emberburn
It seem counterrevolutionary.
that's kind of the point; revolutions aren't romantic and historic....they're bloody and scary and turn normal people into barbarians

Bidwell
Bidwell

@SniperWish
the syrian civil war was caused by Bashar Al Assad's heavy hand when quashing protests during the arab spring
sure, but who caused the arab spring and Al Assad's fear of losing power (and probably fear of being murdered by "revolutionaries" on UK/US payroll)? how was ISIS created, after what event?

Al Assad knows he's the next one in the list, after Gaddafi and Hussein

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Bidwell
btw, I'm not justifying anything, but I'm saying that if we were to establish historical causality, things are very clear.

in any case, there is no silver bullet...

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@WebTool
Look these communism folks never do the math on Marx.

His whole theory of the surplus economic benefits going directly to the people is most efficient in capitalist economies.

Initial Investment + Work = Added Value
if Added value > II+W = Surplus Value
if Added Value <= II+W = Loss/Waste

Put that on the Balance Sheet and Its Just a simple P+L Statement.

Assuming Profit. Now you have the decision of value management.

Under Capitalism you have 1 Manager.
Under Communism you have Management by committee.

Its naturally more efficient and effective to have less managers.

Imagine a military run by the troops alone. Lets say they're all fucking [email protected] operators.
they'd be sitting ducks for an even slightly organized bunch of scrubs with a manager.

Wealth management is a real value adding skill requiring Job. Communists don't seem to get that simple fact.

With that in mind. There will never be zero managers of surplus value.
Net One per wealth creation event is maximally efficient and effective.
Ergo capitalism is the only true communism as it is the only truly maximally effective distribution of profit.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Bidwell
at this point the US government would be foolish to knock off Assad, especially after the horrendous after effects of Gaddafi and Hussein's deaths; if Syria became a threat to national security he'd be eliminated very quickly, though
ISIS - which existed well before the arab spring - was only able to take up large swaths of lands because of a power vacuum caused by the syrian civil war

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/
interesting article about Obama's decision to not bomb Assad after he used chemical weapons to kill 1000 civilians

Supergrass
Supergrass

@VisualMaster
ISIS - which existed well before the arab spring - was only able to take up large swaths of lands because of a power vacuum caused by the syrian civil war
err, ISIS was born in iraq

theatlantic.com
wait, so all your sources are western media, and you are 100% confident that the syrian govt was responsible for the attack? hmm...

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Carnalpleasure
human relations =/= math
who died and made the wealth managers the manger of the wealth?

in the end you realize it is all spooks(arbitrary rules). so do whatever.

since no one can answer the question about revolution proof jobs. what about jobs that are the opposite.

banking
finance
merchant/arbitrage/trader
lobbyist
religious person, this one doesn't really apply to Veeky Forums unless you are a televangelist
advertising

farquit
farquit

@Supergrass
Arab news sources confirm that they were perpetrated by the Syrian regime
and they never denied it
what illuminati youtube channel do you get your news from dude

isis is an offshoot of al qaida
and most of the people involved don't give a shit about the ideology of the group; they just want a reliable paycheck (and would immediately change allegiances if another insurgent group offered more money)

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Booteefool
another fallacy.

Mathematics is the study of Relationships. Just b/c they're complex does not mean they're not governed by the laws of Relationships.

who died
red herring. Competant managers grow, Incompetant managers give to competant managers.

revolution doomed
Hah
banking and finance are the first jobs to be recreated. How will you import goods without money? Idiot
hah
Merchants traders arbitrageurs, you mean distributors. Unless farmers are truckers now. Maybe when you invent the teleporter.
hah
lobbyists
that's like the majority of communist government, guys you're fucking up the water supply, guys we need more potassium.
That's another problem with communism, its very difficult to get ahead of the problem without capital stores.
Murphy's coming for you son, and his dick is like Ruyi Jingu Bang, the monkey kings staff, he's going to fuck you.
Without enough capital to lube up its going to hurt.
hah
Religious people, you mean all you communists trusting your fellow average man to do anything. and your murderous messiahs.
Set Faith levels to maximum.
hah
advertising
ooh boy, waste not want not. Its like you've never met a human bean ever. Desireless Buddhists running around.
You're gonna have to kill like all the women. look at japan. their economy is freezing over, b/c the family is being eroded, and men are simply choosing sustenance and hookers.
Sexual desire is one of the most potent motivators we have. and you think mass control without it is possible.

Physicists have flatland, but communists ooh boy. Your shit doesn't even work in whatever your flatland is.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Lord_Tryzalot
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/06/27/syrias-war-on-doctors
Thats the "freedom" Americans brought to the middle east.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Sir_Gallonhead
I'm so impressed that doctors in the western world are watching over ICU patients via Skype, taking emergency consultations via SMS, and teaching people with limited medical training how to save lives
it's amazing and they deserve accolades

Techpill
Techpill

@SomethingNew
That man is a hero, all of the medical people working there are.

However NYTimes tries to present this as an issue caused by Syrian government and Russian airstrikes. Syria had a delicate balance of power between the Alawite ruling minority, Christians and Sunni majority. US threw it its lot with the "rebels" - radical Islamists really and it became a war of annihilation. If the radicals win there won't be a single alawite or Christian left alive in Syria. Its a battle to the end now, all thanks to uncle Sam + all the rats in the government and pieces of shit who pushed for wars to make money off the mic.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Techpill
well it's a New Yorker article and they don't report the news

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Techpill
and I reread your post
dude blaming USA for the war is just plain ignorant
Assad tried to crush the rebellion, he probably thought there was going to be a military coup
killing kids, using civilians as sniper target practice, barrel bombing apartment buildings (then bombing them again after people run over to help) is no way to respond to that
if that happened here I'd be a rebel, too
and like they've repeatedly said: we don't want your soldiers, we have soldiers, we just need bullets because we're not giving up

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@AwesomeTucker
Day trader.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@CodeBuns
dude blaming USA for the war is just plain ignorant
you could try reading a history book, and asking yourself why the US government (and its people) feel the urge to become involve in wars that happen thousands of miles away from their home. also read what the US govt has done, how it has protected terrorists, how it has trained people accused of genocide, and so on.

protips:
- economy is not an excuse for the deaths of thousands of people.
- all of this is still happening. right now, your govt is killing people in many countries.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@viagrandad
your govt is killing people in many countries
We all know this is due to the influence of the lizard people.
Wake the fuck up.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@SomethingNew
look at me, I'm in denial, my country is totally innocent!

see @viagrandad
you could try reading a history book

also read the news, fatso
what is africa

iluvmen
iluvmen

@w8t4u
I'm in denial
I'm not in denial, I just know our leaders are powerless to prevent what's happening.
Our only hope is that they use their psychic powers on our enemies before they use them on us.
Ron Paul's brother was right.

likme
likme

@iluvmen
I'm not in denial, I just know our leaders are powerless to prevent what's happening.
your leaders are one of the few causes of these wars.

anyway, it's good to know that the fat in your bodies will kill you faster than bombings could do. fucking murican cows.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@likme
your leaders are one of the few causes
That's not really true.
Ok, they may have fucked up in the Falklands, but other than that, I see pristine leadership.
Apart from their aforementioned lizard people-directed actions.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@TreeEater
That's not really true.
see @Bidwell

and even if that was the case, they should have no part in alien conflicts. it's not their conflict, not their problem.

ironically, it's extreme right-wingers who defend these ideas these days. of course they are hypocrites and liars, but that's another topic.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@AwesomeTucker
class consciousnessius

Emberfire
Emberfire

@PackManBrainlure
they should have no part in alien conflicts
You try telling that to the lizard people. You can't even criticise them without getting shot.

What's the point of that suggestion box?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@likme
@w8t4u
@viagrandad
When did the United States get involved in the Syrian Civil War, by your skewed YouTube documentary teachings? As soon as the country became overrun with foreign fighters who threatened our national security, by my understanding

Have we gotten involved in Nigeria's fight against Boko Haram
Or CAR's ongoing genocide of Muslim civilians at the hands of the anti Balaka
Or Burundi's current collapse
Or the Muslim insurgencies that threaten Dagestan and Chechen Republic
Or the separatist (read: terrorist) groups that knock off politicians in the Philippines / Thailand / Sri Lanka and have established their own caliphates

No
We worry about the situations that could directly impact our security (inb4 handling of Libya I know we goofed and Obama said it was his biggest mistake as president) War casualties suck, but the alternative isn't much better (them dying at the hands of the Syrian military or going to Turkey), especially with the current political situation proving that nobody wants to take them in

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@AwesomeTucker
Welding should be a useful skill. Should be possible to learn it a lot faster than other trades.

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