Fell for the accounting/cpa meme

FastChef
FastChef

tfw you fell for the accounting/cpa meme
professors: "Oh you'll make great money! Tons of opportunities for CPAs after SOX! You don't have to work in accounting! You can do a bunch of stuff with a CPA! Corporate jobs require a CPA!"

What the professors didn't tell you:

you work a shit load of hours
get paid just above someone stacking shelves at Wal-Mart
employers EXPECT you to work a shit ton of overtime because "well, you're an accountant, duh!", "Deadlines are deadlines."
do bullshit, mundane work day after day
have to deal with shitty clients if you work in public
have to deal with shitty managers and bosses
field is full of bitchy, career driven women trying to get you fired so they can get promoted
full of office politics
full of H1B chinks & Pajeets willing to work for half your wage or for free as interns so they can stay in USA

Fuck. I'm getting out of this field. Might start selling cars or get into programming. Any advice on what field I should pursue, Veeky Forums?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@FastChef

Went into the futures regulation.
Not bad so far OP

- 37.5 hours a week
- Can arrive at 8am and leave at 4pm
- decent salary
- audits not as detailed as public accounting

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Stupidasole
futures regulation

How'd you get into that? I wonder if they have that in Texas. Do you work for the government?

5mileys
5mileys

I went to an interview two weeks ago. 40k range salary and I should know this week. The money is good for a single person in my low cost area.

However no one cared about my resume and accounting degree until I started passing CPA sections.

Pic very related

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@FastChef
financial audit. Or any audit, really.

It's kinda like CPA work, except pajeets are less common, the hours aren't as oppressive (unless you want them to be or work for Big 4), training is 100% paid for, you have a close tie to your executive suite, and everyone licks your asshole because you wield the power, not the other way around.

source: I'm an internal auditor.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@GoogleCat
the hours aren't as oppressive

Okay, how many hours though? I might want to do internal IT audit, but fuck I hate overtime.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@MPmaster
Work for a regulator, which works on behalf of the government

I just applied and got in

Firespawn
Firespawn

@FastChef

I feel you my man. Identical experience here but with law instead. I Quit 1 year in and haven't looked back since.

Life is beautiful now. Fuck being being a professional, I'm never going to be a desk jockey ever again.

Some things to add to the list:
- Business formal is borderline torture
- You are expected to bring in clients with no sales training or experience
- The hours in your contract may vary. (the compensation won't)
- You will only get to see sunlight during the weekends in the winter
- Some days you'll go 10 hours with no food and 1-2 bathroom breaks because muh deadlines
- EVERYONE in the business is absolutely miserable

Thankfully I have comfy unemployment benefits with let me NEET it up for 2 years. In your position I'd probably go into sales just because it's the most useful and versatile skill to have in business. So it's a useful way to make a living while figuring out what you want to do with your life.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

majoring in accounting

Nothing wrong here

Going into accounting

wew

Firespawn
Firespawn

@FastChef
Get into programming

It's the exact same. Don't bother.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Firespawn
unemployment benefits with let me NEET it up for 2 years.

2 years? How the fuck? I thought it's 26 weeks and that's it.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Firespawn
I think I'll use my CPA plus some decent programming skills to land something financial analyst related. And/or use programming and my CPA to do shit on my own. I.e., SEO marketing, web design, valuation, contract accounting, etc. Shit sucks out there, and tons of dumb grads willing to work a shit schedule for "muh progression".

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@5mileys
I'm surprised no one responded to this. I finished half the CPA exam.

farquit
farquit

@Lord_Tryzalot
(you)

5mileys
5mileys

@Firespawn

W-what? Fuck. I'm an accounting dropout and thought about getting into programming. Don't you at least have better chances at working freelance with programming than with accounting?

What do I study now? Seriously though, no kneepads.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Lord_Tryzalot
Finished the CPA exam, don't even need it (yet). It does give the upperhand when looking for a new gig tho

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@5mileys

What do I study now?

You err in thinking that studying will be your salvation.

Following a tracked professional path will just make you run into the same problems OP listed.

This is because universities are churning out too many candidates with identical skill sets. So everyone goes for the same entry-level jobs to get experience. And because everyone has roughly the same background fresh out of college, the only metrics you can compete on are personal skills and being a workhorse.

The way to avoid this is to NOT follow the trodden path and instead become proficient at something unique or rare.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@GoogleCat

I understand perfectly what you're saying, but:

The way to avoid this is to NOT follow the trodden path and instead become proficient at something unique or rare.

Is way, waaaaaaaay more easily said than done...

Get college diploma in an in-demand field
Get boring, stable job

Be an entrepreneur
Struggle for years for POTENTIAL success

viagrandad
viagrandad

@BinaryMan

Your conclusions are correct, but those 2 aren't the only options.

My point wasn't that you had to start your own business. Just don't do what lots of other people are doing. It's a bad idea. Take for instance CS - we've all heard the "we need more programmers" meme. But the truth is fresh grads outside of the major tech hubs are forced to take shitty webdev/helpdesk work because there are hardly any entry-level positions available.

Can you think of a single degree that doesn't have this problem? I can't, and that's why I would argue that there are no 'in-demand' fields and thus no easy path to a stable boring job.

likme
likme

@FastChef
Top kek at everyone who studies something for the money and then find out that no matter degree you have, it won't just fall into your lap. Congrats on cucking yourself.

TechHater
TechHater

@FastChef
get accounting degree from Cal Poly Pomona
Have 1 year of experience under belt
find job right out of school, first found one for 70K, then two weeks later, I quit and was hired at one of the top 10 firms in SoCal making 84k.
3/4th done with my CPA
probably gonna be making 6 figures by the time I'm in my 30s, and start my own firm

You're the C U C K who got F U C K E D op.

Also, work a shit ton of hours (50-60 a week) ONLY during tax season, after that the rest of the year is lax.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@viagrandad

Yeah I understood what you meant from the start, I just chose a poor example.

My other concern is that if you become a very specific specialist, it might work well for a while then rapidly crash due to changes in the industry etc. while you have invested a lot of time, energy and probably money to become so specialized.

And, most importantly, while it's certainly not impossible to find a super specific niche, most of the time it's very difficult unless you are exceptionally brilliant or lucky.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Soft_member
I'm studying my third section, FAR now.
Shit is just weird.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

graduated six months ago with an accounting degree, one year experience. can't find a job. not sure whether I should take the CPA or just give up on this field. probably too late for me now.

eGremlin
eGremlin

accounting major
no cpa
wants a job in corp Finance
only has 4 years audit firm experience

Lol into the trash it goes

Illusionz
Illusionz

@5mileys
I passed all 4 parts before working. Never was able to get the job I wanted - corporpate accounting that would lead to CFO w 40 hr wks like the profs promised. Getting a public tax job was easy bc those jobs suck and everyone hates em. High turnover and they work u like dogs. Meanwhile uwhwt r u learning? How to fill out govt forms lol. Bullshit. And they want u to get good at it

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@FastChef
I am considering programming
Programming + Accounting/Finance is good I think

I'm a ECE and Finance 2nd year and I started working at an accounting place, but,I ended up making financial calculators for very specific things that aren't available on the internet which required programming, math and finance knowledge skills.

The point is, any programming with any area that can be automated is very useful. I would recommend you get good at math, I mean at least the beginning stages of calculus + upper algerbra as well as comfortable with a few programming languages.

I would recommend learning python first

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@5mileys
Dunno user. I'm focusing on programmin, wed design, marketing, and more. If I have to do accounting I should at least try to get paid well doing contracts without recruiters taking a cut. U can make good money w contract work or if u do accounting on ur own - I.e., bookkeeping, small tax, etc. But I think having a tech background w acct is good. Was just told about a $40/hr job on contract if I knew Access & VBscripts. So might do that. Imagine getting some shit like that w/o a recruiter - that'd pay about $70 easy.

And I like finance and technology so that shits up my alley.

girlDog
girlDog

@BinaryMan
I guess the thing is, it gives u something to fall back on. That's what college is for I guess. If shit doesn't work out - u don't hit the lottery & have to work, I've got something.

If u do accounting, focus on building skills to start ur own business. I think the same is true for anything - programming too. It can just be contract consulting too, which isn't as bad. U get to be a neet now and then.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Sir_Gallonhead
Nobody in the firm I am working for knew what VB was so I ended up writing code in VB for someone.

5mileys
5mileys

@Evil_kitten
point being, it's clearly not that important if a whole firm doesnt know about VB, im confused as to why they need you too know it.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@TechHater
tax

Enjoy working weekends during the most beautiful time of the year the rest of ur life, especially if u start ur own firm and r greedy.

85k in Cali
barely comfy

Enjoy filling out govt forms & reading up on useless tax law updates every year. Shit is boring as fuck. Enjoy ur mandatory billables nigger. Oh and ur falls suck too for extensions.

Oh enjoy ungrateful clie ts that want shit done for free too.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@5mileys
Dont' know. It was for this specific contract assignment for some bullshit reason. Point is it's good to have a programming background with accounting is the shit I'm hearing.

@Fried_Sushi
Thanks. I just went through first lecture of Sedgwick on Algorithms. Apparently "Algorithms + Data Structures = Programs" is what these guys say. Guess that's why /g/ keep harping on that shit. So I'll probably add that to my self study curriculum in hopes of getting into something more interesting.

@eGremlin
Finance is competitive. "Financial Analyst" is a highly in demand job title for both employers and employees (tons of applicants for each job ad). I heard sql, python, etc. are good to learn for these jobs.

@TalkBomber
It's rough out there. Fucking sucks. I don't know what to tell you exactly. The CPA would help - maybe, but do you want to do that shit? The 2017 exam looks like it will be a little harder.

@Snarelure
I hear CISA & CICA combo might be good - it's a niche. This guy says internal control jobs are more cushy @Stupidasole
maybe true, who knows?

Evilember
Evilember

@w8t4u
You're that kid that bags out everyone that went to uni and did real degrees and is now currently unemployed with a 2.5GPA with a major in social justice.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Evilember
ID

Nigger, check it. I'm the OP, CPA.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Flameblow
lol, touche.

@Sharpcharm
I heard sql, python etc are good to learn for finance stuff

I'm writing in python right now making a calculator, python, without a doubt is very useful

RumChicken
RumChicken

@RavySnake
I do python and SQL. I audit and have to manipulate large data for other auditors who don't know how.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Flameblow
I also heard the SOX is like an accounting jobs act meme.

iluvmen
iluvmen

To be fair OP, professors don't tell you shit about a lot of careers. Accounting is what you make out of it. You can go into Audit and talk/work with complete retards called "clients". You can go into consulting or advisory which you can still be involved with retards. Then there's also Tax which is less time demanding, but you have to know your shit in the codes and books so you can tell the IRS to fuck off. Accounting most likely won't be a dream job, but if you have some interest in it you can make the best out of it. The people who are usually miserable are the ones who go into Big 4 from college or private and stay there beyond 4-6 years trying to make Manager/controller/etc., which is just pointless. Big 4 more times than not is just there to pick up interview points and experience just to go work for an F500/private/government work instead. Big 4 is where all the miserable belief comes from.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@RumChicken

I assume you graduated, so, is there jobs like that once I graduate? I would like to continue doing programming, maths, modelling and research and not have to do much of the actual accounting side.

You may have read earlier that I am ECE+Finance if that helps you at all

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@LuckyDusty
programming maths modelling and research in the financial/accounting world*

whereismyname
whereismyname

@LuckyDusty
Any career can take you places you never knew you would be. You just got to be prepared and step up when the opportunity arises. I basically got my job by being the guy who knows how to do stuff.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@FastChef
I was on the path to becoming an accountant but I switched to a communications/business type of program later on

Can anyone confirm what op is saying, it will make me feel a lot better about my program choice. I live in Toronto btw

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

tfw you fell for the accounting/cpa meme
field is full of bitchy, career driven women trying to get you fired so they can get promoted
full of office politics

i can relate to these hard
i'm not even chartered yet but the reality is kicking in

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