Is Europe socialist?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Specially countries like Spain, Portugal, Italy and France, and also the EU itself. Have most of them socialist ideals and hate privatization? One of my french friends said that everyone in those countries is lazy and loves government spending.

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Qf0ey-pOo
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-01/spain-is-running-out-of-workers-with-almost-5-million-unemployed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicaid
massdebater
massdebater

@haveahappyday
yes
it's called social democracy, capitalism but with huge welfare state and protection from employers

it's mostly bullshit, our economy is in the shitter here in Croatia

Emberburn
Emberburn

Spanish guy here. Feels good knowing I will not go bankrupt when I need to go the hospital.

I still remember how when that Evola shit happened, the woman that got infected was treated here for free, while the people that got infected in the US had to bring a ridiculous paycheck. Not even for special cases like that they will make an exception. Fucking lol at living in USA in 2016.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Emberburn
why not copy ireland or switzerland you commie faggot?
why instantly compare with usa?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@RavySnake
It's not his fault, that's the propaganda we get fed here

TechHater
TechHater

Spainball here.

Well, we live in a mix between capitalism and socialism. We have free education and free healthcare. But most of the other thing are private.

The good point is that everyone have the oportunity of get out of poverty, and you will never be let to die in the street if you are sick.

The bad point is that is not as easy to create a business, an the business culture is not as good acepted as in UK or USA. But we made Zara, so its not impossible to success!

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Not socialist per definition but they have, after capitalism and freedom made them rich, had leftists who try to push socialist agendas which is why Europe is dying.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@TechHater
socialism
The good point is that everyone have the oportunity of get out of poverty
The bad point is that is not as easy to create a business

so you get into lower middle class by unemployment benefits?
enjoy your unemployment, idiot

leftist should be shot, glad I am leaving Croatia

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Nojokur
where are you going radovan

Playboyize
Playboyize

@RavySnake
@Nojokur

Fucking cuck.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@lostmypassword
croatia
radovan

Switzerland, will need to get visa first though
backups are Ireland, Netherlands
5 years of Germany if I REALLY fuck things up

@Playboyize
choosing not to pay old commies, females, lazy, young commies, politicians and farmers for doing nothing
choosing to be productive somewhere else and make something out of myself and start a company maybe
somehow cuck

guess form leftist standpoint it's inverse
like, if I let someone fuck my gf would instantly make my stop being a cuck

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@haveahappyday
Is Europe socialist?

no at all

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@haveahappyday
To answer this question, you have to understand socialism and it's origins. Where it was strongest in Europe was Germany at the end of the XIXth century. But the britbongs actually made huge progress with labour laws in the beginning of the XXth century.
Also, Spain was the only place where communism and anarchism actually got a strong root during the II Republic and the ideas still have repercussions today.

I'm spanish (hola cabrones) and I believe the whole point of a State is twofold:
a) guaranteeing safety for their citizens
b) evening out the playing field for everyone.

That means that every man should face the same consequences of the law (tips fedora to the King, Leo Messi and most treasurers of the ruling political party); they should have access to higher education and they should receive (at least basic) healthcare.

These are advancements of modern societies that came into effect thanks mainly to socialist reforms, because workers would still be treated like shit if full-fledged capitalism was left to do as it pleased.

Also, saying that everyone from southern Europe is lazy is just plain wrong and ignorant. The best workers I've met were frenchmen.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@RavySnake
why not the UK

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@RavySnake
Ireland is only good if you're in IT or finance. Pretty much every other industry pays miserably

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Harmless_Venom
These are advancements of modern societies that came into effect thanks mainly to socialist reforms, because workers would still be treated like shit if full-fledged capitalism was left to do as it pleased.

God I hate this fucking interpretation of history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7Qf0ey-pOo

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@kizzmybutt
UK is terrifying authoritative social democracy with to many brown welfare leeches and high taxes

@Poker_Star
I am in IT, however I am in electrical engineering too
my interest for ireland is mainly because of the English language and lowish taxes

Snarelure
Snarelure

Sweden here. Fuck you all! Commie capitalistic scum!

Techpill
Techpill

@lostmypassword
Hahahahaha

Hahha

Hahahah

Ireland for low taxes. What a hoot.

Mate if you're at all well paid then you're not going to see about half of your salary

Firespawn
Firespawn

You wish to have spain's social healthcare. Have fun going bankrupt once your shitty wagecel lifestyle gives you cancer.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Harmless_Venom
they should have access to higher education
Too bad Spain's universities are absolutely worthless.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-07-01/spain-is-running-out-of-workers-with-almost-5-million-unemployed

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

what's with all these spaniards coming out of the woodwork? and why does it seem like every young spanish person i meet would've been fighting for the republican side in the civil war? have they completely lost their spines like the rest of the west's youth?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Emberburn
Obviously you've never heard of Medicaid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicaid

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Harmless_Venom
b) evening out the playing field for everyone.

100 percent impossibility.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Techpill
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Mate, try Croatia

If you are paid shit you won't see half of your salalry
Oh, and retirement funds are a con, pay 15% directly into pockets of current retirees, 5% in funds that buy shitty stocks in public companies that will get raided at every economic hiccup

as a Irish person you have no right to cry while I am here, faggot
you live in fairy tale land m8, I live in fuckin Zagreb

Firespawn
Firespawn

social programs =/= socialism

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@ZeroReborn
Medicaid
yeah same thing faggot

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