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Wow too bad the 95+ vpip guy is directly to your left but still.
What limits?

Yeah, I don't mind that muchto be honest, as long as he is at the table. Its 100NL

True that. It was the only thread that made me come on Veeky Forums the last few days

Just a precision btw, although most players aren't really good, its kind of an exception to have such a good table.

How many tbls you play?

Depends on the stakes I play. At 100NL where I am confortable, between 12/15. At 200NL around 6/8

Amazing its still profitable. Thought online wouldve dried up by now.
Wanna disclose the site you play on?

I'm waiting for the world series of cribbage to become a thing. Already have a semi regular game with some guys at the local moose club, make some petty cash for it.

Tbh, at the 100NL I know most regulars ( small pool of players) and regfish/fish are usually not too difficult to exploit. Factor the RB in and it becomes quite profitable indeed.

At 200NL it's more difficult because there isnt much action upwards 400NL and unfortunately so some players move down, I understood the hard way that they are able to exploit me much more if I don't pay attention.

I don't mind saying, I play on a partypoker skin, player pool is weak af and I have a good RB deal with them. I am on a regulated EU market though, which is a pain in the ass.

pmsl

TEARS at state of this thread.

pmsl if you don't cold raise while UTG

You can make a living out of sports betting, so you are wrong there, clearly dunno what you're talking about.

Cool
Back in the day party had terrible rakeback compared even to Stars iirc. Guess they improved in that aspect. Anyhoo, gl w/ the grind :)

Kill yourself

>not coming over the top preflop to that 95 vpip drooler

>money isn't concerned in Veeky Forums

oh, you're a rakeback pro?

Its still utter shit compared to stars but I like my comfort, with my affiliate and top status I am getting a decent enough %.

Coming over the top = raising ?

I profit from RB yes, if that's a RB pro then I guess I am, doesnt prevent me from making money at the tables though

the thing is is that you make your money through rb, not through making good decisions on the table

What is RB?

I live near a casino but am afraid of going

Video poker seems like a pretty decent way to kill time and possibly make a few bucks
thoughts?

Isn't video poker like black jack? You don't even get to play strategies or anything.

DON'T GAMBLE!

rake back
for every hand of poker you play, theres a rake taken out of the pot
sites thought it would be a good idea to give back some of that rack (at the cost of an even higher rake) to generate more traffic
rakeback pros literally are paid to grind out on as many tables as possible, filling in seats and generating more rake for the company.

Video poker is shit.
Electronic Poker is fine. It's just like real poker only played with a touchscreen and the cards are digital.

Basically it's just a faster way of playing. The house takes a larger rake, obviously, but you're paying table fees anyway unless you're in a tournament.

>house takes a larger rake
>while getting in more hands per hour

so like
start at 20 bucks
can put it at a quarter per hand
likelihood of getting 4 of a kind isn't terribly bad, which would net a profit of like 6 bucks lol

> The thing is...

I don't remember disclosing what proportion of my income is coming from RB, funny how you seem to assert your opinion as facts.

Know it alls never do well in poker, I am assuming this is why you are so butthurt. I don't see you providing any kind of insightful comment in here, just spewing frustration.

Can we define our terms here?

Video poker is a slot machine. Electronic poker is nothing. Internet poker is real poker that you play online with other real people.

what is your ROI and then your rake * rakeback?
this is actual math here, buddy.

>Playing cash games
>What is your ROI

Try again donkament player

I thought there were accusations of fixing in electronic poker

okay, take your bb/100 fucking dumbass

There are accusations of fixing in online/live/electronic whatever form of poker you can think of you'll find retards to believe its rigged to make them lose.

Well you're are the one being condescendent in the first place, forgive me for pointing out your mistakes, not really something an experienced player would do.

Anyway, I don't have my full database on hand, but I run around 3bb/100, RB depends on my volume obviously but I get 20% on the gross.

I play around 100Kh/month so the math is 3K income from the table and 2K from RB ( rake is insane where I play but I don't have the choice)

Well I know it isn't as popular as it had been about five years ago but I remember that one of the bigger sites was being investigated for fixing games
And I assumed the game's rapid decline in popularity was related to that investigation

Well there was the Ultimate bet scandal but I am confident this is not the norm, at least at the stakes I play.

Decline in popularity was mainly due to the fact that people realised it isnt that easy to win money and the whole black friday story which started with the FBI wanting to control money landering and ended up discovering a ponzi like skim at FT poker ( a website ran by degenerates who lended themselves huge amount of money).

The risk isnt so much in superusers and such but more website closing down and keeping your money because debts. Lost 4K that way

Anyone go vic, empire or hippodrome?

I don't live in England anymore but I went to the Grosvenor a few times for fun, mainly played 1/2 and 2/4. Was pretty nice compared to Aspers which is the worst shithole I ever set foot in

>playing good among other good players is same as playing roulette

This to some extent. Unless you can get some kind of advantage over another good player you are essentially wasting time at that table.

Do you know how many card rooms there are in this country?

Yeah vics good, defo recommend empire the most though especialy on weekends, attracts all sorts of clueless people.

anyone know a bitcoin gambling site with an affiliate program?

I'll try the Empire next time I am around, cheers.

Most websites don't advertise affiliates, if you found them, they don't need one. You should look the other way around, ask your current network or affiliate for tips.

Haven't played any poker in a minute so I'm definitely rusty.

Been working on horses recently and slowly making progress.

>tfw imagining doing nothing else but occasionally sports betting and living the good life

Any other sports bettors?

Was, never did it full time. Can literaly get £5 on most bookies max nowadays, so just play poker now. Do you have a model for the horses? Cover flats of jumps?

Ah, that sucks. At least there's poker.
I've been working on a model. Just flats seeing as that's the more popular style here in the US. Also only thoroughbreds as well.

fucking card playing losers....go to draftkings and get wrecked in fantasy sports so you can at least lose your money with dignity

Didnt work out for you huh? Try again, your luck is about to turn, you're seem like a clever dude, variance has been a bitch that's all.

>fantasy sports
>dignity

Here's your (You)

I played some blackjack and slots this weekend. Came out with 800 bucks.
probably getting fucked in the long run for doing this recreationally and am now addicted to the casino. I go at least once a month.

>fantasy sports

HolyFuckingShit.

Just bet 500 dollars on Ethereum. Am I doing it right?

cashgame is dead anyway.. husng is where its at, made 11k in january, still chasing that high

anyone think sportsbetting can be longterm profitable?

>put in 100 in slots
>up 250
>loose it all

ive played fan duel for the last 3 years and have ~65% win rate with steady betting and profits all three years

only gamble NFL. can't wait for next season.

Might as well just hook up with a bookie and get some real action down.

>anyone think sportsbetting can be longterm profitable?

It can but you better be 100 percent dedicated to it.

legal vs illegal

ill stick with the legal

i bet some money with coworkers (nothing big that would cause drama at work) but im not dealing with some shady fucker for big bets

Or just set up an automated exchange bot and cherry pick prices

>some shady fucker

Every bookie i've ever known outside Nevada was on the level. You just need to be hooked up with the right people to avoid the trash.

Before black friday were there highstreet bookmakers like there are in normal countries?

I grew up in a couple of places where bookies are part of the local social fabric. Guarantee you that just about anywhere in the US there is someone who will have things going on a local level and is set to take your action. If you can't find them you are in over your head to begin with.

Oh nice the compulsive liar made a new thread

>hey guys poker pro here
>ugh they ALWAYS have it when you have QQ amirite?
>AHHHH I got it in 60% to win and LOST, this fucking game man
>meet me at the 2 cent table

Nobody in this thread is a profitable poker player at any limit (aside from me), and nobody will prove otherwise

>Only pros incorporate a flop donk betting range into their game.
I've flop donked like it was nothing and I'm an amateur. Might as well donk when betting on the flop since it's too frequently a crapshoot.

>this projection
>dodges 2 cent tables cause he's literally a welfare neet that's not allowed to spend "his" "money" on what he wants

I lost 66% of my pocket QQ, KK, and AA tonight. Absolute BULLSHIT.

>"yeah, i think i can call a 32bb shove with my 40bb stack near the bubble with T8o oop and flop two pair"

This fucking game, man.

>Might as well donk when betting on the flop since it's too frequently a crapshoot.

Are you fucking kidding?

You might as well hand your wallet over and leave.

I'm up $160 on over 10'000 $1 sng 6 max

quit your day job for sure

When I move up and can table more than 4 hopefully I will

HUSNG has been dead for years and you're probably lying your ass off or just went on an insane heater.

Traffic above 100 is disgusting and competition important, there are cartels that will do everything to keep you from moving up every step of the way...

Graph or did not happen, also volume and stakes, ROI ?

So far i've made more money out of political/sports gambling than I have off the lottery.

I fully expect it to go horribly wrong however.

you could at least try explaining why mathematically its a bad idea
otherwise youre just a jealous troll

what limit you play?

I jump into 25nl on ACR from time to time. I think I'm breakeven or slightly losing because I spew when tilted against the russian bots. I mostly just try to run good so I can slowroll the regs I hate.

youtube.com/watch?v=NgM314J0I9k

I been watching this guys videos lately. He isn't very good at poker and in this video he hired a craigslist hooker to do twitch commentary with him. lmfao senpai

>only 1k views from last year

this guy doesn't stream anymore, i can bet on that

What /v/idya do poker players play?

Story time.

So I get sent another $50 matchplay in the mail by the casino. This is like the 4th one they have sent me this month. I put it down with my $80 bucks on a hand of blackjack. Lose it. Shit lmfao. I am beginning to hate matchplays and hate blackjack. They also give me $10 free slot play. I play 10 spins of $1 dollar slots and end up hitting $150 and cash out. Sweeeet.

>take the $150 and bet the whole thing on RED in roulette. (Why the hell would I listen to Welsey Snipes when he got caught for tax evasion, went bankrupt and went to prison?)
>hit the $150
>pocket it and go to eat my free buffet from a voucher I got
>get a free walking dead t-shirt and swag from a walking dead promotion. they are advertising a new walking dead slot machine
>was planning on going home with my winnings but get the poker itch

Cont.

>decide to play NLHE
>about 20 hands in
>on the button
>have 10c 5c
>players raises to 4x bb
>5 callers
>I call behind
>flop 10d 7d 5d
>everyone checks
>think about betting but dont want to get reraised from someone representing flush and have to make a decision
>turn comes out 5s
>everyone checks
>I make a value bet, just small enough that if someone has a large diamond they should call
>the thinking behind this is if I have a boat I would have checked and let them catch their flush. I don't want them to put me on a boat, I want them to put me on trips, so I bet it
>I also want to get some value out of my hand in case no diamond comes out on the river
>I get 2 callers. nice!
>river comes out 2d
>fuckyea.jpg
>I can see player to my left watching me out of the corner of my eye. LOL. I visibly make a small grimace when I see the diamond to try to further sell my trips, not looking at him the whole time
>thats good enough for him. he makes a large overbet
>player to my right thinks about it for about a minute then calls
>I know I can't sell my trips anymore if I call or raise but I try anyways. It makes it even harder that there is 2 people I am trying to convince instead of 1
>I count out enough chips to make a call. luckily it's more than half my stack. only an idiot would call or raise here with just trips. I push the whole stack in.
>"All in". I say it a little louder than normal and try to project confidence and strength while looking at both of them in the eye.
>this works. player to my left snap calls
>player to my right is a little smarter. he thinks about it for a minute then folds (later find out he had Kd). lol fucker.
>player to my left shows Ad after I show him my boat.
>he's laughing. Its probably as he thinks back about how he thought he had a solid tell on me on the river

After all of that it turned out to be a $650 hand. I win about $200 more over the next 2 hours then call it a day.

Good story. I love it when a huge hand works out.

>be me
>go to local card room
>poker is illegal in my state so its one of "those" types of rooms
>sit down with 100 at a 1/3 game
>sit to the right of two guys i beast on
>beast on them for the first two hours that im there
>stack is about 400 at this point
>get pocket aces in the big blind
>utg+1 is an extreme LAG
>he raises to some amount like 5x or something
>theres a couple of callers
>i put in a reraise
>lag reraises me
>i look to see who's folded, asking the guy to my right if he folded, he says yeah
>i look at lag and shove
>lag snap calls
>guy to my right snap calls
>"what the fuck? you told me you didn't have cards"
>call the floor over
>tell them that this player, whom i suspect yet say nothing about of being a house player, just angle shot me saying he mucked his cards when he didn't
>they don't disqualify his hand and the house came around to watch this 1200 pot
>flop comes out KQx
>lag has the straight draw
>guy to my right has a flush draw
>x
>the look on the faces of the guys standing around watching as i begin to suspect the LAG is also a house player
>house tries to offer me insurance, which i deny, since they come out in the long run
>x
>the look of disbelief as i dodge the world
>take down a few more pots
>say i gotta party to go to so im gonna cash out
>never went back

Yea it doesn't always work like that haha. Since I told a story about how I won I should tell the story about how I lost I guess...

>same table
>kh 9d
>on the button again
>player raises to 4x bb
>3bet by loose aggressive player to 12bb
>I call (normally I wouldn't with that specific hand but I feel like its going to be HU with an aggressive player who is oop)
>flop comes 2h 9s 9c
>perfect flop for me
>he donk bets 1/2 the pot
>I just call, hoping he puts me on overcards with no pp
>turn is jd
>he donks 1/2 the pot again
>I reraise just in case he has something call-able like AA, KK, or something silly like Q10. want to get maximum value out of him
>he calls me. I can tell by the way he calls its a smooth call and he thinks he probably has the best hand
>if he is putting me on a J (which he probably is) it means he most likely has AA, KK or QQ
>I don't put him on a 9 or boat because with the way this guy plays he would never play such a strong hand so lightly
>river comes out Qd
>he overbets the pot
>fuck lol. with that player, with that bet, I know he just hit the river, hard.
>I almost muck my hand within the first 5 seconds but then like an idiot try to convince myself that my trips are still good
>there was no way I was putting him on a straight at that point but I felt strongly like he had QQ
>"yeah, but what are the odds of that? hey man, do you have pocket QQs?"
>he looks at me blankly, giving away nothing lol
>so I call just because I am curious and a dummy
>he turns over QQ, of course

Sometimes I just need to learn to trust my instincts. He took me for like $200 that pot. It messed up what would have been an otherwise decent day.

Yea man I hate those angle plays. It's happened to me at least a few times in live games within the last year or so. Its one of those things that casinos rarely crack down on unless it is a big tourney. Oh, so last week I had a game where a guy is actually taking chips off the table while his cards are still live and putting the chips in his pocket. Wtf lmao. Or how about the guy a month ago who is heads up and checks the cold nuts to his buddy before telling him not to bet. Theres some shady characters in this game.

wait
so dude opens up
then homeboy 3bets
you call
dude donk bets?
then what does homeboy do?
though, showing that you will call down with trips is better than showing you would fold on the river with how much you've already put in. i mean, aren't you pot committed by the river?

if someone is taking chips off the table, and you're in an actual casino, call the floor over. accuse him of bringing in chips instead.

and im not sure if the rule applies universally that you can't check the nuts on the river when youre last to act. i mean, you might want to check to see the opponents cards, but then theres the collusion aspect. not too sure what to think of the rule

You guys seen this Bitcoin themed card game?

I've been wondering about this. Seems that a lot of bookies make it really hard to scrape data for that reason.
I would be interested in trying to get an arbitrage system going.
>:(

well actually Pinnacle has an API so you can just use them as they have some of the lowest margins which means some of the truest prices.

Micros reference? If so, mahnigga.jpg

>though, showing that you will call down with trips is better than showing you would fold on the river with how much you've already put in. i mean, aren't you pot committed by the river?
No, I agree. I was kinda pot committed by the river. I don't really think it was a bad call, it was just that there was no way he was bluffing that amount with a marginal hand on the river. With that bet, he is hoping I have a 9. If he had AA or KK, he honestly probably would have checked on the river after my reraise on the turn or put out a value bet at most. He was an aggressive player but he wasn't a bad player. It's why he didn't come over the top on the turn. If he puts me on a J and he reraises then I fold and he doesn't get any more value. If he puts me on a 9 and he reraises then that's a dumb move. There really was nothing else he could have had there but QQ. I was able to sniff it out but just couldnt let go of my trips.

>if someone is taking chips off the table, and you're in an actual casino, call the floor over. accuse him of bringing in chips instead.
I wasn't in the hand anymore but I pointed it out to the other players who were oblivious lol. The floor came over and he played stupid so they let him slide.

>and im not sure if the rule applies universally that you can't check the nuts on the river
I'm not too sure either. In tourneys it absolutely applies but cash games are a little bit looser with the rules. It was more the fact that he told his buddy not to bet first. That's absolutely collusion. I had to tell him he couldn't do that. His response was "oh I didn't see I had the nuts...". Fucking liar lmao.

oh if theres a player telling another player how to play, call the floor over. like you said, it's absolute collusion. if they dont' do anything, just say you don't feel comfortable playing at this establishment anymore and will take your businesses elsewhere.

Oh wow, that's awesome. I'm assuming I'd still need to scrape other sites for differing odds? Also being in the US kind of limits me.