I'm a Male Sugar Baby

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Hey Veeky Forums I'm a male, 25, MBA student in a big city. Over the last year I started going on sugar dates with men and women around my city for allowances to pay back debts, cover rent, buy suits and get introduced to high name executives for great jobs.

I just started an internship at a major consulting firm because of my sugar daddies worked in the same company and knew a principal.

On average I get about 6,000 a month in kind gifts that cover my loan repayment, my apartment and in giftcards to whole foods.

Ask me anything, to get a few out.
I started this for the money.
Yes I sucked dick for money.
Yes they expect you to have sex with them.
Often times I fake everything.
I do not date men my age. I have a couple girls I met at luxury parties my age I have thigns going on with.
They do not know I 'go on dates' for money.
I am /fit/.
I am totally aware I am a whore.

What else would you like to know?
You guys should consider it too to get out of Neetdom.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Top or bottom?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Fuzzy_Logic
Both. I'm 5'10 and one of my ongoing relationships is with a 5'6 corporate lawyer. He wants to bottom.

Most of the short term relationships are angry alpha executives that want to top a young guy. It's not great but the money is. A couple meetings a month and suddenly you are getting gifts mailed to you.

A majority of the gay men on here are recently divorced or going through issues at home. Like a lot of Veeky Forums they have fantasies and the money to pay for it. In that case, this is naughty for them but they feel more comfortable with the fact that they know the money is not going to my meth addiction and actually helping someone get through school.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@GoogleCat
I know a girl who does this.

Why are you doing it though? if you're going for an MBA, you oibviously have a plan for your future. Is 6,000 / m worth it? I am your age and pulling in around $4000 a month which is pretty modest for NYC area. I wouldn't take suck dick for an extra $2,000. Shit - I wouldn't fake dates for an extra $2,000. Why not just get a regular job?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Illusionz
yeah this. the whole point of being a man is being able to use intelligence to make money instead of just sex.

all the money in the world can never unswallow those loads

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Illusionz
B school is nearly a full time thing, a full time thing that costs 70k a year.

Lucky people got bank rolled from their 3 years in deloitte's tuition reimbursement and then had enough money saved up to cover costs. But most people who know they can't make it in the corporate word have to then either take on $150,000 extra in student debt and leave the workforce for two years.

I'm the latter. After 3 years in advertising, I'm not going to make a life out of it.
So, in the midst of a full semester, am I ok sucking dick once or twice a week and make nearly a full salary? I said yes.

Also, having immediate ins at top companies is an added benefit. I barely interviewed at the consulting shop I just joined. It is like having well connected parents, and I don't have those.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Dreamworx
You're right, it is total debate to have within your own moral values.
I am not going to argue if men are smarter than women, Yahoo's stock can show that.
But, it takes a lot of rational thought to understand that a guy who comes from a blue collar background usually cannot climb the corporate ladder on his own.

Of course there are anecdotes of those amazing few that came up from their bootstraps and became high class leaders of BCG and ACN, but they aren't the mode.

Just like making it in Hollywood, you have to know people, and I found that entertaining over the hill people with bad family lives to be a very quick way to know people and make them want to help you.

Maybe my price is less than yours, but what did you go through to get where you are?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

How do you stop yourself from contracting AIDS?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Harmless_Venom
I have never gone on a date with a black, latino or arab person and always use protection.
STD's are a real fear because I know many executives at this point would also consider prostitutes who care much less than I do about living past 30.

Before any intimacy (never on the first or second date) I ask that they get an sti test as well. I get tested regularly, my school offers it for free.

farquit
farquit

@Spamalot
What about getting bummed all the time? Doesn't it injure your bumhole?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@farquit
Well, the human body is very resilient.
It doesn't feel good, I'll tell you that. Why gay people actually enjoy it is much beyond me.

But, it doesn't hurt and injure. You probably have taken worse Taco Bell shits.

takes2long
takes2long

about just how /fit/ are you to pull this off?

w8t4u
w8t4u

Do they expect you to be good at conversations? I don't mind offering my asshole (pride is a spook) but don't know if they would find me engaging.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@takes2long
I can bench a little more than my bodyweight, run 2 miles a day or bike 14, and count my calories. Not Zyzz, not Zac Effron, just a guy who takes some effort in maintaining an "athletic" body.

Inmate
Inmate

Is your face ugly or handsome?

likme
likme

@iluvmen
you barely sound /fit/ bro.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@w8t4u
Yes, this is probably the most important for long term relationships. Seeking Arrangement is broken up into two types of people (men and women are the same):
Lonely older people looking for longer arrangements (40+) they will give you more money and expect some mental chemistry too.

Horny rich people looking for quick fucks and their taboo boy-toy fantasies fulfilled. You do not need to be mentally engaging, but you have to then be the cabana boys of their dreams. I'm not ripped enough or twinky enough for that.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Inmate
Not going to post my face on here, people say I look good. I've seen uglier boy toys at parties who work out more than me. Face is important but I would not say it is the most crucial when you're young.

@likme
I've seen the Before and After threads. I think I'm in the 60th percentile of the fit bell curve.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@likme
he has sex with men

Sounds pretty /fit/ to me

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@kizzmybutt
post body pic no homo

Playboyize
Playboyize

@cum2soon
I dont eat taco bell but i once ate 32 chicken pakoras from eastend tandoori in Finchley so i know what you're talking about

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

If you are in a small town, you could also start an online relationship. I am not sure what this involves, but I met a girl at a party who says she has online men skype her every month and send small gifts ($500-700) to talk to them and I assume try on clothes they buy her.

I gotta make the assumption you need to be pretty for that.

But you'd be surprised how well the entirety of America, Canada and England is covered on Seeking Arrangements. Making a profile as a baby (without a profile picture) is free so you can see who is around.

There are other sites for foreign languages. This is a growing way to get some supplemental income going.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@GoogleCat
Dude, you are a living testament to the efficacy of kneepads. You should be the mascot of Veeky Forums.

See NEETs, we weren't kidding when we said kneepads!

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Flameblow
This

WebTool
WebTool

@Flameblow
These days I thought the mascot of Veeky Forums was a 19 year old asking people to donate to his trumpcoin wallet.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@lostmypassword
Do you have to kiss them?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

I matched with some guy on Tinder whose dad is a portfolio manager at Goldman

The only problem is he wants to top, should I do it?

How do I go about requesting things like internships?

Soft_member
Soft_member

How do you find these guys? Online? At a bar? How do you know that they are gay?
I'm genuinely curious. Thanks

farquit
farquit

@whereismyname
Do you think you are better than others here at Veeky Forums, seeing that you take money seriously and are willing to do whatever it takes?

Do you have superiority from earning so much at such a young age?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Dreamworx
Stop shaming him, you are obviously jelly he is pretty enough to get money for sex while you have to slave away.

What prevents him from investing that money in low cost index funds and let compounding do the work?

Don't pretend your "honor" is important, when it is all about the money in this world.

Jealous fucks.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Nude_Bikergirl
What's the appeal of climbing a corporate ladder? I struggle to understand the appeal of having a livelihood that is reliant on the whims of an arbitrary managerial structure.

takes2long
takes2long

@iluvmen
lmao DYEL

askme
askme

@Sir_Gallonhead
film it, then blackmail his dad saying his son is a faggot.

Or blackmail the kid saying you'll tell his dad he's a faggot.

If you're really ballsy blackmail both.

Or just do it for the lulz

iluvmen
iluvmen

@GoogleCat
dude kneepads is just a meme lmao

fucking madman actually did it haha

idontknow
idontknow

@hairygrape
underrated post

likme
likme

@GoogleCat
That pic got me off. Seems you're a natural at pleasing people.

Techpill
Techpill

@askme

That's dumb as fuck

Methshot
Methshot

@Techpill
t. guy who's gonna get fucked up the arse for 'maybe' some money

I'm not sure you've fully understood the wagecuck meme

TreeEater
TreeEater

How do i get into this? how do i get into this but with no homo?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@TreeEater
how do i get into this but with no homo?

Start visiting /fit/. After about 2 months you'll start noticing the 1st signs of no homo. It's smooth sailing from then on.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Skullbone
i want the no homo option, i don't care if the money is smaller

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Emberfire
I don't think you understand what "no homo" is. Like I said, start visiting /fit/.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@GoogleCat
I don't wanna suck dicks or get near them. Do you think I can be a women only sugar daddy. I want to whore myself out but not for dicks man feels bad.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Illusionz

Is $6000 a month worth it?

implying you wouldn't suck a few cocks or get bottomed out for an extra 6k a month

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Emberfire
Sorry dude, nobody's gonna pay you money for fucking girls.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@GoogleCat

where do you find the guys?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@hairygrape
as a /fit/izen, this made laughed out pretty loud

massdebater
massdebater

@askme
I know a guy who does that. He's 17 and gets a lot of money.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Back again

@Sir_Gallonhead
Honestly, just ask the son if he would be interested in some sort of arrangement with allowances. Rich people are almost used to it and appreciate the brashness of the question.

@Soft_member
I only use seeking arrangement. Sometimes at affluent bars I get approached by men, never rich women.

@farquit
I sold my body for money and a career fast track. I'm not better than anyone, I just know this was more steady than crypto currency and buying MGT.

@cum2soon
When I am 30 and I have years of experience in banking or consulting, it becomes much much easier to get venture funding for any number of silly startup ideas I have. VC's throw money at you when you have the credentials.
It is much easier to start at a big corporation and move into self employment than the other way.

@iluvmen
I didn't let my dreams become memes.

@Emberfire
@TreeEater
No one is going to pay you to have sex with attractive girls your age. It's the same reason no one pays you to sit around at home on a Taiwanese bitcoin trading board.

@StonedTime
Honestly, no. Unless you live in LA, NYC, Dallas or Miami where the moms are lonely and rich, women can get laid and have affairs for free. I have dated 2 sugar mommies and both got bored of paying for things quickly. Probably because other guys would undercut my asks for allowances.

@Gigastrength
Seeking Arrangement is the primary site I use. There are others too.

@massdebater
With being gay gaining traction in media, I can't imagine that really being a problem these days. Your guy must be rich too because I know the people I would try to blackmail have a-list lawyers that could sue for all sorts of defamation.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Bidwell
do you have to makeout with them and cuddle and lovey-dovey stuff like that or is it just sex?

Spamalot
Spamalot

How's therapy going? Why couldn't you accept a life based on your merits?

TechHater
TechHater

If you're not a cute twink, would you say the only way to get proper sugar daddies is just to work out
And do your dads normally bottom for you or what

Soft_member
Soft_member

@iluvmen
Yea you do. This is pseudo-relationship.
Most men want you to sleep in their bed with them, cuddle and watch netflix. In the middle you're gonna make out and, well, everything else.

Not all dates are sexual. It's important to make sure these guys know that you are not there for sex and you are providing companionship, I would say 1/3 of all dates end in sex. And still the guys (and girls) pay for every date.

@Spamalot
Because corporate america is not built on a free system of letting the strong survive. My dad is a history teacher and my mother is a flight attendant, I was not born with a silver spoon in my mouth but I was born with the knowledge that everything in America is about who you know.
I went to a good public university and got a good degree, but that is only going to get me so far.

America is not a meritocracy and don't anyone tell you otherwise. The Kardashians, your old friend Ezra Levy and nearly every banker got where they were because of great connections.

Some people have to give up a few things to make those connections, this was my opportunity and I think for Veeky Forums a few other people here should consider it.

@TechHater
Work out and learn about cultural topics to discuss. Really take a passion in some weird things like films, sailing and maybe food. That way you can talk the big talk when they ask you what you like to do.

Working out and being young is how I got to my place, I'm a hairy guy so twink life is not an option.

happy_sad
happy_sad

you now realize this is exactly what girls do to get ahead in life except they can be straight

cum2soon
cum2soon

Another thing people ask me a lot: Was I always a faggot?

I seriously believe that being a homo is a choice. Lots of research points to mental stimulation when you're young and other things like that as guiding a subconscious choice to be gay.

I date women seriously. But, I date these old men purely for their connections and money. I fake interest in their lives and honestly, gay sex is pretty uncomfortable.

But, I am a fag now. A fag by choice. I accept it.

If anything, all of this side work makes me crave women more. But I'll never argue I'm straight because I literally have had dick inside me.

Take that from someone who is "gay for pay" but, I think everyone has the ability to just say "I will do this thing I don't like for money".

Then again some people on here seriously enjoy it. Good for them. If you enjoy it, then you should get off grindr and craigslist and find someone who is willing to make your life easier and fuck you.
I can't ever understand why someone would do it for free when people will pay great money for the same service.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@happy_sad
Tfw being a girl is easy mode

Guys have it hard as fug

Bidwell
Bidwell

@happy_sad
@w8t4u
I have met many girls both in the sugar bowl (yes that is the faggy term they use for it) and just in regular life. All of them when I tell them what I do admit they have had sex for way less rewards than I do.

Some get laid just for drunk food at night. Some will sleep with guys because they have a nice car. You don't get the car, you don't even get to ride in it. You just see it.

I know girls who have sucked dick to get jobs as office managers at banks. Office managers do not ever move up.

Women use their looks weekly for rewards. Guys look down on them for it, but seriously we can adapt it too and be smarter.

I only go on dates with men who have a lot of conenctions and an income of 200k a year or more.
That way I know they can 1) afford to pay me fairly and 2) Give my resume to someone important.

Of course I am ashamed of it. But it works.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Best thread on Veeky Forums, hands down. I'd like to know: how many great connections do you need in the span of, say, a year? Are you making use of the connections, or just collecting them? What is your current work position, and how much does it pay? Sorry if these have been asked already.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Fuck this shit.. Didn't know I'd live to see the day being a fucking fag is ever worth it

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@hairygrape
Lol'd

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

pics faggot

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@PackManBrainlure
I am in a top tier MBA school right now, which I got into because of my own GMAT score. This year I switched to part time classes so I could intern at some major consultancies.

How many connections do you need?
Well I think any one needs 4-5 people in diverse groups that can offer their help at the drop of a hat. So by dating over 6 people this year, I have gained about 2 great connections and their rolodex of friends.

I am dating two men long term, Each sees me maybe 5 times a month. One is a principal at a tax group and the other is a corporate lawyer.
I have been brought to yacht parties, corporate dinners and the like.
My current position is an MBA Strategy Intern in an ERP technology group at a large consultancy one of the men works for. Very different departments, we're on different floors.

The internship before that was at a large startup in their business operations MBA internship. I got that position because one of the men knew some of their legal counsel.

Both times, I did not apply online, I asked and they shot a few emails out and I had a recruiter call me the same week.
The startup paid me a stipend of 4k a month. The consultancy is hourly full time at $41/hr.

My MBA ends next spring, so I have time for one more internship and then a full time move, hopefully into corporate strategy or private equity.

I have no idea yet if I will keep seeing these men once I get a real job. One is 57 and is recently divorced and the other is 48, we don't talk about his family. I was clear that I am not looking to move in, get married or be monogamous, so we're pretty set on terms that this is as I try to succeed.

Odds are, I will stick around until my loans are completely paid off. One of the guys has talked about starting a side business in real estate investing. I might consider working with him on the side, it would be nice to own my own property.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Ignoramus
Not a chance. I am doing this for my future and discretion is a must because these men don't need to be outed as guys who pay for companionship.

@RumChicken
It's worth it for me because my options leaving school were to grind as an advertising copywriter hoping for promotions or being a bartender. The world isn't fair and rich men will always pay for what they want.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@TurtleCat
What was your GPA?

I'm trying to get a high GMAT and tend to do really well on standardized tests but my GPA was kinda shit ~3.4.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Bidwell
DUDE LMAO WE CAN ADAPT BY JUST SUCKING A DICK

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girlDog
girlDog

@GoogleCat
You say you've been on sugar dates with men and women but you've only talked about the men

How have the dates with the women been?

What's the composition of the money you receive? (i.e. is it 90% from men and 10% from women)

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@girlDog
The men are the only ones that are looking for long term things. I mention a couple times I had flings with women who are lacking something at home. But each time they drift away. I assume it is because they were juggling multiple guys and picked the one that fits their fantasies the best.

The dates with women are usually - they make the rules and want me to be entertaining. Talk about interesting things I've done, what they want to see, bucket list adventures around the city. We get wine, we go to art galleries, they show me off to friends. Obviously it is all fake.

The composition of gifts is majority men. Sure you have standard allowances for going on dates, but the real gifts come from longer term relationships where they want to 'spoil' you.

I live pretty modestly so my requests are usually things like whole food gift cards, appointments with custom tailors and loan repayments. It is super comforting for someone spending money on you to know exactly what it is going towards. Usually they will spend more too when they know it isn't drugs, wild nights out at the bar and giving to your friends.
So I keep it simple - Keep me in school, keep me healthy and well dressed.

@King_Martha
You can find a nice sub older man who wants your dick too. I'm just saying why can't we use sexuality in our favor too to get ahead?

@Nojokur
GPA out of university was 3.7. My Gmat was 724.
My application essay and interview was completely on how I understood advertising well and now want to use that to help shape companies in the future by thinking creatively and against the grain. The word innovation had to have been used 5 times.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Holy shit Mr.Robot was right. Exec are now fucking men to get ahead. This generation is full of fags.
degrading yourself for a job
You have a job OP, its being a hooker. IT doesn't matter what job you'll get but you'll always be a whore. Those execs will never respect you or think of you for a promotion. If you were a women that would have been another story. There is a reason why guys don't do this and that has to do with the sexual organ. You have a dick so you don't have to degrade yourself for this. Women were forced for thousands of years to do this type of work because women were considered property. OP you're worse than a pedo.

Evilember
Evilember

@Emberburn

OP is contemptible, but "worse than a pedo" is a stretch

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Evilember
He's worse than /a/. Let put it that way.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Emberburn
I don't work for the people that helped me get the jobs, it's pretty clear you don't get how a major company functions when it comes to internal referrals. I would have to go out my way at this internship to even end up on the same floor as the guy who helped me out.

You are right though, I am a whore and when I am 30, I will be a senior manager of a team looking back at how I came from lower - mid class suburbia to someone worth something.

Someday I'll have a family, and I'll provide for them a life I didn't have. And my children will never need to go through what dad did to get where they are, because dad already built for them a network to fall back on.
Hopefully they'll never know. I am doing something many people would consider below them to get a peak in life.

Worse than a pedophile is a bit extreme, because I am not ruining someone's life for my own gain. Do you hate strippers too? Do they make you upset that people will give them money?

So yea, I'm a faggot but those execs who would promote me never will know. And if they did, then there are recruiters emailing me weekly asking if I am looking to make a switch.
How did you get to where you are now? Hard work? America is not a meritocracy, if you are successful, someone out there helped you. My parents gave me 22 years of free housing, clothes and food and that just isn't enough for 'this generation' to catch up.

Illusionz
Illusionz

How much do they pay you per meet/allowance wise? I've been thinking of trying to find a young thing and throw like a grand at her a month

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@eGremlin
Millennials can't catch up to the boomers meme
Millennials make the same as their parents when they were your age. Housing increased because of deregulation. That's just something millennials have to lobby congress to regulate that industry. This is just an entitlement mentality that millennials picked up from the boomers. Only they just injected steroids into their entitlement. Also I do know how major companies function and its always nepotism. Sometime they'll get their friends but most of the time its their kid, cousin, or nephew. I stopped working for a fortune 500 company because adding up your salary to a per hour basis and most people in corporate America are making the same as the guy working a mcdick job.

5mileys
5mileys

@Spazyfool
You are missing many variables here. We can look at college requirements, company sizes, the evolution of online applications the flooding of recruitment desks, and even the outsourcing of many tasks to small agencies across the world.

Put these together and someone who got a job at deloitte in 1992 probably had to meet a local recruiter in a local office and that local office didn't worry about 10,000 resumes flooding their inbox a month.
We can also look at how most analyst work now comes from an indian team that pre filters the raw and pushes it to someone at the company.
Back then as well, someone could go to north south west tech and get by with an undergrad in economics because once again, they are local and walked up to the branch.
Degrees weren't 'required' and then if you were local, you had the opportunity.

Now they have 'target' schools and if your school is not a target, then you have absolutely no chance.

For a comparison, entry level marketing at most CPG companies now require an MBA. We are talking about the people who run notes back and forth in meetings. MBA.

Competition for white collar has never been higher, it isn't a meme, it is a complete change in culture.

You also must not have gotten very far in the f500 before you left, I make 41/hr right now and I would love to meet the fry cook who can do that. Or your company overworked you, that happens too.
Times have changed significantly since you were in the system then. You are right about the nepotism though, and I am trying to crack that. All I wanted was some in, not some associate director level gig.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Illusionz
This is a great question and it makes the difference between being an escort and being a sugar baby.

On the first or second date you usually talk terms. Dumb babies will come right out with what they are looking for. Smarter ones will ask what you want.
This is not a serious takeover negotiation so then lets say you say "I am looking for someone I can meet minimally 4 times a month for dinners and a night out. My range is $1,000 a month no questions asked"
The girl might try to haggle, but most girls don't know their worth.
Never agree per date. That sets too many expectations and everything feels much more unnatural. And also that leaves room for weirder issues down the line.
What if you two hit it off and she asks to see you again? If you had a set monthly rate, then this wouldn't change a thing.
If you start to mentor her and meet for coffee, do you pay for that meeting as well?
What about texting?

Having a flat rate deletes all odd moments and allows wiggle room in what constitutes a meeting.
Also a salary makes the baby feel more comfortable being themselves (or whatever you want them to be) around you.

To answer you question about me directly, I am usually around a mimimum monthly of $600 a month and that is going out to dinner three times a month with no expectations.

However the two men I am seeing are in the thousands a month for 4-5 agreed upon dinners/events and the gifts are usually not in cash.

Start with seeking arragement and see what the girls suggest on your first coffee meetup. Never negotiate before meeting in person.

Evilember
Evilember

@kizzmybutt

So is the monthly amount at the start or the end of the month?

If at the start, why follow through?

If at the end, wouldn't you be afraid of getting ripped off?

I've done this before and it was always per date.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Evilember
That is for your own negotiation. My incentive to follow through is how much work it is to find a good person on the site. $1,000 once is not nearly as important to me as a hypothetical $12,000 year long relationship with extra gifts added in for my birthday and christmas.

On the flip side, if I go on three dates and we agree to pay in X amount of time, I am expecting some gifts in between. If the person has not spent any money between our dates to show their worth, then I am out.

Dates don't start at their apartments. That spaces this out from being an on call booty call. They are paying for a relationship, an ongoing relationship and I am expecting something constant.
No one gives me gifts at x time. We agree to X amount and it is usually broken up throughout the month in giftcards and shopping trips.

I have yet to meet someone who has their sugar pay them on venmo on X day every month. It becomes too transactional and makes the whole relationship feel even more fake.

Delicate balances here.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Pretty attractive guy here. 24

When I was 18 I met a fat small business owner (forgot exactly what he did) off of Seeking Arrangement and I sucked his dick for $1,000.
This was before I even had my dick sucked by a girl and I'm pretty straight.

Any way you can post proof? There are a lot of roleplayers here

whereismyname
whereismyname

@GoogleCat

men and women

Fuck you.

I get it that you are whore scum, hey no big deal man's gotta eat.

But don't cross your diseases over to females by banging women.

Gay men that occasionally bang a women are literally the only reason that straight people ever have to worry about HIV.

Supergrass
Supergrass

As far as I am concerned if you can't say openingly what you do for a living to a group of family / people then your full of shit and you might as well be selling drugs on a corner.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@GoogleCat
Seeking Arrangements costs money to even have an account. And what's with the two types of fees of "Rich members" and "Attractive members"?

askme
askme

@Carnalpleasure
.724........busted

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Booteefool
I think you're on the wrong site, but apparently they do have a paid 'premium' membership for things you used to be able to do for free.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@PackManBrainlure
Oh what? I thought this was some sort of an app?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Booteefool
It only costs money for the people who are looking to sponsor someone else. The baby profiles are free.

@whereismyname
You should really be concerned about the rise of interracial dating and the hiv rates among black Americans. 1/8, friend.

@Fuzzy_Logic
You want proof that I have had sex with men for money? Are you hoping I'd post some time stamped gif of gay sex and then money being handed to the younger male?

Sounds like you're the real roleplayer here. Go back to /hm/

@Supergrass
I agree, it is shameful. I don't think women who sleep their way into fame and fortune talk about that part of it either. But, you still see high ranking women in corporate america and young 20 somethings with lucrative disney and nickelodeon contracts.

I tell my friends and family I am an MBA student and an Intern at a major consulting company specializing in Technology Strategy. That is already confusing enough for them.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

this was a hell of a thread holy shit thanks for sharing bro aint people strange by the way i think you could be autistic / psycopath holy shit man

not saying that as an insult i mean go take the pcl-R test now bro lol

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@TurtleCat
I want to do this, but I am too prideful to fuck a man. If it was only with women then I would have no problem, but we all know that's impossible unless your an ├╝bermensch alpha Chad

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Op are you good friends with your clients? This is important :3

Nojokur
Nojokur

@LuckyDusty
pcl-R
I took the longest test I could find on the front page of google.
I'm a pretty reasonable guy who was sick of being jealous of the kids in my classes who had it made. After seeing hard work not get rewarded, I realized I needed to find a way to speed up my networking, and I turned to this.

My goal is like many Veeky Forums posters, get a great job and have lots of money. But I come from a very low income family so I have to make it for myself. I don't think that is psychopathy.
Pic related.

@VisualMaster
This is going to be odd to ask, but have you thought about online relationships at all? You could look up the idea of findom, online dating, or some sort of sexual fetish webcam. I have met many guys who don't get naked on cam.

@AwesomeTucker
clients

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Nojokur
Just tell me

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Dreamworx
No, probably not. I feign caring for their stories and relationships. If the money was not involved I wouldn't still talk to them.

That isn't friendship, it is paying for an illusion. Kind of like drugs.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

yp wtc man
uh
give ti up

Soft_member
Soft_member

@GoogleCat
You are contemptible and insufferable. I hope you never go a day without remembering how you made it to where you are.

I pity you, OP.

takes2long
takes2long

@Soft_member
Lmfao sounds like you mad jelly faggot. Do you work super hard at your job? Are you proud of not being fired? Do you think intelligence exists? Welcome to reality. Californians give hundreds of grand to people for being attractive while you are working your ass off to get paid in jizzrags.

massdebater
massdebater

@takes2long
jizzrags
Not to be argumentary but this seems like OPs forte...

idontknow
idontknow

@takes2long
So how do I get in on this? Very /fit/ guy here, used to get lots of attention in WeHo

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@TurtleCat
Yeah, it really doesn't matter. I'm not gay or a roleplayer though.

It's gotten out from an ex girlfriend and most of my friends know about the story of me going gay for pay. (Lesson learned)

I've been meaning to go at it again, and now is a good time, so thanks for the reminder.

On the plus side I'm legitimately lonely enough to look for friends in one of these guys.

I watch hours Milken Institute panels and founder interviews on YouTube for fun. I'm learning to code through a MooC and I'm tired of my friends.

The idea of meeting someone new in general seems cool, and it's an added bonus if they'd buy me clothes and pay for a gym membership.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@idontknow
To be fair if its actually cali youd probably catch herpes and aids pretty quick.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Poker_Star
Have hooked up once, protection was used. I always had gay dudes give me their numbers, fashion designers and rich dudes, but I never knew how to put myself out there in terms of an arrangement.

Methshot
Methshot

@Poker_Star
I live in California..
What makes you say that?

WebTool
WebTool

@takes2long
You are literally too stupid to reply to beyond this. Here's your (You).

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Poker_Star
catch herpes

Everyone already has herpes you moron.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@cum2soon
Why gay people actually enjoy it is much beyond me.
have sex with a top that actually cares about you, instead of just seeing you as a hole and you'll understand

Soft_member
Soft_member

I've considered it but I prefer camming. Less awkward experiences and I make around the same depending how much I want to "work."

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@CouchChiller
Yeah, but for some reason its only active in whores and blacks

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Soft_member
What site?

@GoogleCat
NEETs can't do this because they don't have a good personality, at least most of them. Wish I could though.

I think it's strange that you don't enjoy anal sex after doing it more than a few times. Have you actually tried to enjoy it? Try relaxing at first and then squeezing the muscles. Feels good man.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Methshot
Lots of sleeping around, gays, minorities and degenerates in your state. Sure its plentiful everywhere, but your state almost celebrates spreading the shit. I guess since you are alright so far since you look hot and already make good money(so yiur clients are tolerable), but the other user may not be so lucky

Skullbone
Skullbone

losing your dignity in order to become a corporate slave to the financial oligarchs

Doing disgusting, abominable things in order to acquire a terrible thing. It's like an oxymoron.

I don't even entirely believe you, but I'll take the bait. I'm going to business school this fall. Know what I'm doing to pay for it? My savings, loans, help from parents, and maybe a part-time job on Fridays.

Know what I'm going to think when shit starts going rough and I'm stressed out? Better than sucking a dick and taking it up the ass. Nothing in life can ever remove that shame.

You sold your soul to the devil. You lost this game before you even started.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@idontknow
If you're serious, make a profile on seeking arrangement, it takes about a day to get approved. From there, reach out to a few local guys with income over 200k and see what they respond with.

@MPmaster
@SomethingNew
Honestly, I am not attracted to guys. The whole male form, is pretty unappealing to me. I hope you enjoy it, but this is more like work than a fun hobby for me.

@Soft_member
Camming is a great way to go if you're pretty or fill a solid fetish. I don't think I'm creative enough or passionate enough about creating a full social media presence to pull it off.
Just out of curiosity, what do you do on cam?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Skullbone
Hey that's great, that part time friday job will definitely cover your books.
I don't think you comprehend what a top MBA program takes out of you daily. You have cases, teamwork projects, out of class lectures to attend and onsite explorations.
And the huge amount of reading.

And then there are the internships. Most companies do not pay what the groups I landed in. You are expected to work through your MBA with these low quality experiential programs, but top consultancies hire out for it too.

But beyond that I gotta point out you have two things I don't
-Savings
-Help from parents

I was an advertising copywriter for 3 years before this, they don't make very much. Ad shops also don't have tuition reimbursement and my parents are scraping by as it is, they can't throw money towards a 70k a year program.

Did your parents also pay for your undergraduate degree? Mine didn't.

So this was my solution to kill 2 birds with one albeit disgraceful stone.
I can get tuition and living expenses covered while chipping away quickly at my existing student debt.
To be honest, I do not think I could have seriously gotten to the point I am fiscally without this.

The deeper question is - Why do you care that your work helps make someone else richer? If you worked for Goldman Sachs, would you really be upset that at 27 you are helping make Gary Cohn rich?
My thought is, 'I am getting rich in the process'.

So I took a short cut that you consider a terrible trade. But I will graduate without debt, great leads into solid companies and savings to spare. When I'm 30, I'll be in a position to make 250-350 thousand a year. In my mind, that seems like a real win. Who cares that someone else is making 600,000 a year because of me?

What dream do you want to do with your MBA? Make the next facebook? You don't just jump from graduating into doing that, venture capitalists don't climb out of the walls to fund those ideas. You need to pay your first developers.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

thrivehappy524.lev-el.com

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@CodeBuns
It's so very entertaining watching you perform these mental gymnastics to justify this disgusting "job."

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@TurtleCat
Awesome detailed and obviously genuine answer, illustrating the very real benefit of this type of path. Might not be for everyone, but thank you for taking the time to share some real knowledge. Can I call you Kneepad Bro?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Well this was a really interesting thread guys. I of course didn't expect to get praised for what I do to get by, but I am surprised how many of you reacted so poorly to the rationale.

This is Veeky Forums, why is money not your bottom line? I'd love to hear how you guys are hustling to become millionaires but it sounds like you would seriously rather be mediocre than be called a faggot.

My story is very real and probably 1/5 of girls you see in top corporate America are doing the same thing. So remember that when you see someone get a promotion that you definitely worked harder for.

Not saying mimic my story, but I was hoping to hear more discussion on what other people are doing alternatively to alleviate the gap.

@Ignoramus
Hey, that's a really overused way to troll people, try some new arguing styles. Some people just want to get rich.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Stark_Naked
I'm not trolling, you're disgusting and fucked in the head.

girlDog
girlDog

Some people are just seriously hung up, of course.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Stark_Naked
Money is a means to an end.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Bunch of fucking faggots

Evilember
Evilember

@GoogleCat

Good thread. More power to you OP. Read the whole thread.

Please believe me; the following is not sarcasm or meant to be backhanded.

You have some class of sociopathy (a now antiquated term) and if that is probably best case scenario for you. Regardless of what choices you make in the future you're at the point where you will not likely get to experience love, belonging, and all that fancy stuff on laslow's pyramid of human needs.

There is good news though. If you manage to make it through all of this without succumbing to drug addiction (which you've mentioned almost every single post so far in the negative), catastrophic psychological breakdowns, or any other debilitating mental condition:

You are going to be come rich.

I hope it was worth it to you. If you become rich i hope you enjoy it, although the odds are stacked against you.

Good luck, i'm a little envious.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Wow; i thought i was red-pilled on the world, but this shit takes the cake.

Although i undoubtedly do not feel envious of your position; i am impressed by the sheer willingness of your character to literally get in the trenches and do the work.

I sincerely wonder, at what cost. I mean money is the goal; but not at the cost of pride dignity and self respect. Know these can never be bought back, ever.

likme
likme

@Stark_Naked
That's fine. You did what you had to do. Personally, i wouldn't be able to live with myself after getting fucked in the ass or havung to suck dick, unless it was for a ridiculous amount of money (10 million minimum). See, i rather do the fucking, even if it means taking the longer road.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@GoogleCat
Can I have $50? I am a student and need the money.

Paypal. [email protected]

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Poker_Star
Bend over for some exec like op does then you'll get your money.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

people are actually, legitimately surprised that brown nosing is a real thing and actually works

Did reality finally hit you after all these years?

FastChef
FastChef

What was your first time taking dick?

Was it for one of these meets, or did you experiment with a friend in high school?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@CouchChiller
Then blur out your incriminating features. I want to see if you're hot or not.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Stark_Naked
Honestly I feel sorry for Veeky Forums it has become so normie money isnt the point anymore

Fuck off poorfags

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@5mileys
So what happens in 5-10 years when you go for head of corporate strategy or some other executive role, and the background check turns up your sugar baby profiles? Do you really think you'll be able to overcome that stigma?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Garbage Can Lid

Shit, in 5 years that crap won't have any stigma, at the rate we are going.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Stark_Naked
health risks not worth it imo
even if you only fuck attractive women with condoms you have way more chance to get an std or stabbed by jelly husband/boyfriend than normal people.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Soft_member
Corporate culture doesn't change that fast.

I work 3 down from the board of directors at an F500; how you get to where you are matters more than what you did when you got there, in many cases, particularly because at that level of the organization, image is paramount, and no board of directors wants to have to worry about skeletons in the closets of their executives damaging shareholder value.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Spamalot
Thats absolute bollocks you'd never ask that on a date. This is bullshit how'd you even get into this position

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Respect.

How good/bad is it? You seem to find it neutral to bad. If you had enough money to do OK, would you still do it?
How much is the job worth for you, how far would you go? If you get the students loans paid down, why not continue if you find it so easy to do?

Money is money and IMO we are all prostituts anyway. We all sell our body to the capitalistic overloads one way or another, might as well profit from it.

WebTool
WebTool

@eGremlin
I rather be poor than suck dick like you. You're literally degrading yourself for material things that look good to others. Your family doesn't give a shit if you live in fake ass suburbia, you can provide them a better life in ways that doesn't include sucking dick.

Don't worry man, you will become an alcoholic once you hit 40 when you realize everything you did in your 20s wasn't worth it and your daughter gets trained by jamal and tyrone down the streets because she has such a cuck father

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@WebTool
I mean, not to be harsh, but pretty much this.

All OP had to do was choose a different career path than advertising. I mean, you don't need an MBA to earn 6 figures, you just have to build a marketable skill set.

OP is taking a shortcut, and if he's lucky, the only thing it will damage is his psyche, not his physical health or career or social interactions.

All things considered, I'd rather stick out my current gig (which pays me 6 figs at 28, without any dicks sucked or shady get-rich-quick tactics), get promoted, and land 2-down from the CEO at an F500 where I have the freedom to create my own work-life balance, the power to influence the organization, and the money to live a comfortable, happy life.

I think the saddest part about all of this is that OP didn't have to compromise his morals to get where he wants to go; he just had to consider alternative career paths, or consider on-the-job training or certifications that could easily have gotten him where he wants to go money-wise without having to literally sell his asshole to self-absorbed rich old men.

But, then again, who am I to say? I simply got where I am the old-fashioned male way; good looks, hard work, willingness to take initiative, and competent work product. All of which I can be proud of.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@WebTool
Rofl, this is comedy gold. user, i'm not attractive either. I know it sucks, i'd kill to be a hot trap. But i'm aiming to make good money so I don't have to perform mental gymnastics in order to cope like this.
If you make a few million dollars you dont have to spend it on glorified peasant shit. There are (dangerous) ways you could make money by improving thousands of lives. Maybe selling truck repair knowledge to imrpove commerce in Africa or something. Oppurotunity cost means the money op is making now will matter a lot down the line if he knows how to finance (he probably doesnt but w/e).

I cringe whenever I see 40-50 year old men talk about how fucking whores and having shit relationships when they were kids where the good old says.

I dont have respect for anybody whos good old days start before they are 60.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Huh, the thread is still alive and full of anger. Well I'll reply to all I can.

@FastChef
Last year was the first time I have ever even considered touching another guy's dick. I seriously do not find the male body attractive. The opportunity was too good to pass up - a month of rent and bills for an 8 minute job.

@GoogleCat
No can do.

@Garbage Can Lid
Let's say I make it in one path to the head of strategy ops at BCG or Deloiitte or whoever. If at that point someone says "Hey I found this archived profile of you as a sugar baby with Male/Female selected" then I may get alienated there.
So what do I do? You can't fire me. I'll just start consulting remotely for them and talk to some headhunters about a switch. Would Airbnb or the next big startup want a 7 year vet in corporate strategy on their team? Definitely.
Getting my foot in the door now is setting me up for an easy parachute out to other great gigs.

@kizzmybutt
You don't have sex very often, do you? In the consulting/banking world, you trade partners monthly. Even if I was just in the world already, I'd be running the same risks.
Sucks being young and sexual.

@hairygrape
Every Board of Directors has skeletons. And I got to my senior associate position by knowing someone, the rest is just regular progression. This thread is confusing me with trying to seduce every manager, I am building my rolodex in the process of associated friends.

@Gigastrength
Things I talk about on first dates - My intentions, their intetions, my sexual health, their sexual health, my hard limits, their hard limits, budgets, hobbies and interests. Not always in that order but always talked about.

@New_Cliche
It is neutral to bad. I am not one of those classy bimbos that goes on luxury trips to Fiji and Cannes. I don't go very often on the water and I never have been in the VIP of a club.
This is not a lifestyle for me and I don't want it to be one. It is more of a 2-3 year diversion to level my playing field.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@WebTool
I am not doing this to impress my family. I am doing this because all I have wanted since highschool was to be wealthy. The suburban town I grew up in was not the magical disney channel style, it was the sad Ben Folds style.

I strongly doubt my kids will view me as pathetic when I own companies and achieve more than their friend's dads. But, I don't have racial hangups if my daughter becomes a slut. I've met many girls who turned out the same, that is just women isn't it?
Oh no your waifu is pure.

However, my kids will never have to worry about money. So if they want to be promiscuous it is for the love of the sport, not out of need.

@Lord_Tryzalot
What did I have to be proud of at 25 as a poor ad copywriter?
What will I have to be proud of as a senior manager of a major consultancy?
I think the difference between those two answers is well worth the cost of dating a couple of men for a brief spell of time.

Who knows, everyone here thinks I will be so ashamed of myself that I'll do hard drugs and drink myself to death at 40.

There are lots of gay executives in America. They seem to be doing fine mentally.

@Dreamworx
When you graduate from a decent school with a degree in marketing, no connections to the industry, you don't end up in a career where your company pays for specialized certifications.
I could have been I guess in a nuclear power plant, that does pay pretty well too and requires only certifications, some of my friends are at Exelon.
I can promise you didn't get where you are if you are making that much money by hard work. You're blind to your own support network.

@New_Cliche
I can assure you I'm actually pretty great with money. You're right that this is going help build up my future in huge ways. Being debt free in a great job by 27 will give me a huge run way to put my excess funds into investments and really set myself up and family later in life.

@Evilember
I think being rich and a little cold is probably better than being poor.

Illusionz
Illusionz

yo

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@GoogleCat
What a fucking loser you are...

w8t4u
w8t4u

Straight male here. I have respect for your creativity and willingness to make sacrifices to achieve the type of life you want.

@eGremlin

What you are doing is way more than just gay for pay, which is what I think most people here fail to see.

Any tips on networking/meeting the right people and building your rolly?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

This is actually an interesting thread yet you faggots are shitting all over it. What gives?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@w8t4u
The first thing you have to do when networking is be aware, you are going to start talking to too many people to keep fresh in your mind.
Make a spreadsheet about every person, what they do and where they work. Also write down the last time you guys met.
Yes this is work, but so is building your future.

The next thing you will need is an email program called Boomerang. for $99 a year, you can schedule emails to bounce back to inbox and go out weeks and months in advance.

If you have left a job in the last year, send an email to a few of the managers you worked under. Thank them for what they taught you and list out what that was.
Ask them if you can get coffee sometime in the next few weeks, meet them and talk about what they are working on now and pay for their coffee.

Then write a thank you email and schedule a followup email for them in 2.5 months on boomerang.
You will forget you sent it out but then 3 months later you will see a reply from them where they say "yeah let's get coffee again".

Eventually these people will keep you in mind as a good guy and will hit you up about interesting things going on in their world. Also when you need a job, these people will feel more connected because you have been getting coffee so long.

Beyond that, I bought a basic linkedin package. If there is a company I like, I search for 2nd degree friends on linkedin. I will ask my closer friends to give me an intro to buy them coffee.
Then put them into your spreadsheet and on boomerang.

By doing this, I have about a 200 person constantly flowing email list of me constantly following up with ex managers and keeping in touch.

I also started a meetup group for small business in my city. These people are always invited to that group so I am providing them with a service.

Once you have the operations laid down, it is very easy to keep the flow going.
Every week I probably meet 2-3 people for 30 minutes to catch up on life.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Carnalpleasure
faggots
Not to be argumentative here, but I think OP had that market cornered.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Bidwell
When I am 30 and I have years of experience in banking or consulting, it becomes much much easier to get venture funding for any number of silly startup ideas I have. VC's throw money at you when you have the credentials.
why do you need to do this? AFAIU, VCs throw money at the most retarded ideas/people, even 20 y.o. kids. you just need to convince them

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Spazyfool
Those are the huge consumer facing unicorn apps that get a million and spend it on hiring sales people and developers. Many times, the kid is the face guy but there is a 30+ year old ex tech consultant cofounder that no one talks about.

Youthful new blood is always more exciting to read in a tech crunch article than "veteran mobile technology expert and young stanford drop-out team up".

The projects I mull over are service to service businesses in very dry and boring spaces. But, those are the projects that make tons of money in the end.

One idea involves how current factories staff their employees and deal with sick days. Workday, the Aon product does not nearly do enough to let everyone account for all positions and gigs.
The consultancy I work with has an innovation lab and I am talking to them about how to move to a project based role on competing with workday.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@King_Martha
user, I have a similar mentality. I was raised by a welfare queen and now I'm currently studying CS and Econ.
Can you tell me about some rookie mistakes? One thing I'm nervous about are up-scales parties when they show me off. I don't want to choke.

Methshot
Methshot

Great thread. Do you not feel overworked with all of these regular meetings, keeping up a large network and school all at the same time? How limited is your free time? Also, I'm 18 and will be starting at LSE in September, pursuing a Master's in Econometrics. I want to get into the business world. Any general advice?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Playboyize
The worst thing you can do is act like you know more about some topic than you do. No one expects a 20 something to be some opera master. Just be 20 and be cultured. Besides, they are going to be experts and take you to school, or they will think you're a hack and ignore you all night.
Humility is a great way to earn respect.

The second issue is never get drunk. Get tipsy, but control your drinking. These people are dating you to impress themselves and their friends. The worst thing you can do is make someone regret inviting you out. If they get drunk, that is fine. But you will be cool and collected.

Third, never hit on someone else while you are out with someone. You are not scouting for other people to start relationships with, you can take business cards and talk about business but never ask someone's date for their number and never ask a lonely benefactor if they would be interested in talking more.
That shit comes back.

Let the person you are with lead your intros.

@Methshot
I sleep maybe 7 hours a day, work 7 and go to class for about 4-5. My life is hectic, and Veeky Forums + a few books are my real only alone time.
However, I was never born with much luxury to have things get handed to me.
If I am not setting goals and meeting them weekly, I will fall behind. Hopefully in a couple years, I will have the freedom to enjoy life, but this is a race.

My advice is start now asking your parents if they know anyone in banking/consulting/investments/data science. Start with that person and once again see my earlier post about spreadsheets and coffee.
Ask about them, what they like and what they did. Ask them if they would give you a short term internship this summer on a volunteer basis.

When you get to school, ask your teachers to hang out outside of class to learn about their history. Most teachers consult as well. Once again, coffee and spreadsheets.
No one told me this when I was 18, this is how you get great internships.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@StonedTime
Would you recommend any books?

happy_sad
happy_sad

I feel like this should be an episode of True Life; your situation is THAT fucked up.

I am trying to figure out if you had better work ethic or were better at what you do; you wouldn't have to literally take it in the ass to pay your bills. (Career wise, I am not talking about being a prostitute)

You don't have to be a exec at a Fortune 500 company to make 6 figures a year. There are plenty of other options that maybe you would be better at, if you were equally as passionate about and wouldn't have so many costly prerequisites?

Rather than being a CA fanboy there are less expensive places to live where you could make a good life for yourself.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Harmless_Venom
How to Win Friends and Influence People
Getting to Yes
Influence, The Psychology of Persuasion

hairygrape
hairygrape

@happy_sad
I don't live in CA. There have been posters earlier defending me and that was very appreciated. Check the ID's, my posts all have the same.

You're right about not being an exec to be rich. I could be a nuclear power plan operator with a highschool diploma and make 100k a year in nebraska, southern illinois and Wyoming. Exelon has great benefits.

But, I want to live in an amazing city, make incredible amounts of money and be able to leverage that for higher growth, and huge potential.

Let me know if you figure out what could have changed if I had better work ethic and if I was a better writer. My conclusion was the growth there has a pretty low slope.
Of course we can look back and say "Hey you should have gotten a better degree in college" but I can't change that now. I regret my choices at 19 and so I am doing what I can now at 25 to fix them.

Hindsight is 20/20. I am doing fine in a top MBA program from a great school, I am getting all my debts paid for and I have a great internship. Why look back at my bad choices for a degree in college and job prospects? There wasn't Veeky Forums back in 2009 and my dad is a highschool history teacher, no one was around to say "hey maybe your son should get a degree in management and apply for gigs at deloitte every summer."

MBA tuition is 70k a year. College tuition for me was 33 a year. Combine that with big city rent and bills, a fair cost of living is right in the 4k a month range, without saving, or having any luxuries in life like cable, or the occasional night out.

I was living paycheck to paycheck, but this helped me save, build connections and make a giant jump I couldn't normally afford.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@happy_sad
passion results in a six figure job

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Hey Kneepad Bro great thread. Really interesting.

Whats the best way to get a female baby without leaving a trace in terms of getting sued or blackmailed or something where the baby manipulates the daddy if things go bad or shes crazy

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Ignoramus
There shouldn't ever be a reason to get sued.

Blackmail comes down to how assertive you are with her about what she can and can't take pictures of.
You doing mountains of cocaine with her? Probably bad, unless you work in banking.

Do you have a wife or significant other and will this baby be the other woman?
That is when you have agreements of no pictures of us ever, and she does not have access to your house.

At the end of the day, everyone entering this knows there is some part of discretion required.
Honestly she has as much to lose as you do if you can show she was sleeping with men for money.

All women are crazy.

My advice is get a google voice number and link it to your phone. Then also get a throwaway email address.
That way all your communication channels are as disposable as she is.

It is the same fears you have when you date a girl. Except with this you are able to set rules. She can take pictures of food, herself in nice clothes and where she is, but you can never be in them.
If you own a boat, and you can't have pictures of your boat floating around on the internet, ban that too.

Babies really don't want to blackmail, it takes so much time to find a good match that trying to extort one would be a huge opportunity loss.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

i realize this is biz but why do you want money in the first place?

what exactly are you wanting to accomplish that requires the amount of money you seek? or are you just seeking money for its own sake? see how much you can get?

askme
askme

@Evil_kitten
Because I want to increase my quality of life and provide a life that I idealized as a child to my own children.

I want to see something cool on instagram and go there that same year.

I want to start a business and not be worried about spending two months not making money.

Do I need any of these things? No.
Why do athletes train so much to get where they are?
Why do actresses aspire to be on film?

You're on Veeky Forums wanting money should be enough of an answer.

Greed is good.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Methnerd
Have you even work a consulting gig? You realize you're sucking dick to work 60-100 hour weeks right?

You think being an exec at Deloitte or Accenture is all fun and games and a 9-5? You are seriously going to kill yourself OP when you go home at 1am every day for 4months straight and wondering if that dick you sucked was worth your position

Methshot
Methshot

@askme
biz is very interesting to me and your post in particular is more interesting still.

aspiring to gather an illusion seems odd to me so i try to garner perspective where i can. money is only one of a multitude of paths and if it is the one choose to traverse, please accept my regards.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Deadlyinx
I work in Technology strategy consulting now. If you work 100 hour weeks you are doing it wrong.

Or you are on the wrong team and too afraid to speak up.
No one on my team puts in more than 60 a week. We travel to location by 9am, work on the implementation and research, get an hour lunch to plan together, get dinner and then either do some final touches and go home.

Then Fridays are off site; I just skype into calls.

There are members of my team who don't even go on site anymore and just work from home on offsite days. Advisory is easy. Sounds like you're the one getting fucked.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I think this is a good plan. I never really considered anything like it before but I started seeing this guy who worked in private equity, and he took me to all these fancy places. Opened my eyes to another way of living. Not having to compromise on what I spend. Now I am thinking all my future boyfriends will be rich, and looks and age are less important.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Sharpcharm
You take the kneepads meme to a whole new level. You have just discovered what female secretaries all over have known for decades. Good on you, you naughty bitch. I bet you are real good with that naughty little slut mouth of yours.

FastChef
FastChef

@Sharpcharm
like you're the one getting fucked
Not to be argumentary but that seems to be your specialty.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Sharpcharm
gets dinner

IF you're getting dinner on the company tab, you are working those hours son. You aren't leaving the firm no earlier than 7PM.

It's okay, you can downplay the amount of hours you work so you can be the edgiest faggot on Veeky Forums.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Sharpcharm
all the money in the world can't unswallow these loads or untake these dicks

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

It's funny how non-STEMlords have to suck dick for cash.

I'm LMAOing at your "lives"

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Lord_Tryzalot
T. etf babby that will never be in the 1%

cum2soon
cum2soon

@viagrandad
how did you make it into the 1%?
well... it's a long story... it involves lots of chapstick...
Haha. At least Heidi Fleiss hired other people to take it in the ass for her at some point. OP hasnt graduated from hooker to madame yet.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Need_TLC
Getting paid to eat with my coworkers twice a day.
Why is this a bad thing?

@FastChef
Having occasional sex vs working 100hr weeks and being bitter about it.
I guess one is being fucked and the other is rape.

@Nude_Bikergirl
You're right, I will have to live with this forever, but the aspects of such a great late 20s and early 30s really makes it all worthwhile.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Bidwell
You don't know that. You won't know that until you're well into your 30s.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Bidwell
rather have a physical cock up his ass than a metaphorical one
To each his own, honey.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Nude_Bikergirl
perfect

StonedTime
StonedTime

LOL. You're gonna die so early of AIDS. You think those rich dudes arent also banging cheap Aids infested ass as well?

Serves you right for not having any dignity.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@askme
I'm the guy that did it when he was 18, and I'm going to do it again.

How much do you get from one person a month? In the second / third date do you just come right out and give them a number?

I'm 24, I've mostly worked labor jobs / not worked (family rents out the property I live on). I've never made more than $2,000 a month.

Any advice?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@GoogleCat
virtue > life on ez

girlDog
girlDog

@whereismyname
comfortable, meth addiction, helping, school
all they care about is the little thing between their legs which satisfies the thing between their ears, don't try and justify your whoring

farquit
farquit

I know right OP, I also make 6k a month but I didn't suck dick for it. What whaaaaat

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Bidwell
we can adapt it too and be smarter
No we can't. The majority of men are straight. /fit/est guy in the world can't compete with a hot girl.

And also, fuck that.

Give my resume to someone important.
Cuck mindset. As a man you should want to run shit. I would rather be a criminal, vagabond or neet than live like a cucked faggot.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@GoogleCat
You say you aren't attracted to men, but how do you keep it hard when they ask you to fuck their ass? Viagra?

I'm just curious, because I can barely maintain a boner with a mediocre woman, let alone if I was with a dude. (no problems when I fap to porn or with someone I'm into, so it's purely a mental problem)

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@VisualMaster
Cuck
You should want to run shit
When your fresh MBA student
Shut the fuck up you're either underage or an underachieving dumbass

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@hairygrape
can't fucking argue with that
top kek

Emberburn
Emberburn

@GoogleCat
Post pics? (offsite because it's a blue board)

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I wonder if OP charged the guy who took his anal virginity extra.

It's not Veeky Forums if he didnt

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@farquit
Op probably makes more money than you

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@haveahappyday
Jealous fucks.
2 posts by this ID, in succession

@iluvmen
fucking madman actually did it haha
1 post by this ID

@CouchChiller
implying you wouldn't suck a few cocks or get bottomed out for an extra 6k a month
1 post by this ID

@LuckyDusty
this was a hell of a thread holy shit thanks for sharing bro
1 post by this ID

@New_Cliche
Money is money and IMO we are all prostituts anyway.
1 post by this ID

@Carnalpleasure
This is actually an interesting thread yet you faggots are shitting all over it. What gives?
1 post by this ID

@Ignoramus
Hey Kneepad Bro great thread. Really interesting.
1 post by this ID

@Methshot
biz is very interesting to me and your post in particular is more interesting still.
2 posts by this ID, in succession

@Dreamworx
Op probably makes more money than you do
1 post by this ID

A lot of samefaggery by OP in this thread. For some reason this feels like it has iHaz written all over it. Hes the only one that thinks it would be plausible for that many people on this board to whiteknight a whore faggot. How's it going iHaz? Haven't heard from you in a while.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Fuzzy_Logic
This. I can't believe I didn't see it before. The "low cost index funds" comment and his attention whoring gave it away.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Fuzzy_Logic
@Lunatick

Sex workers often have serious mental illnesses.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Lunatick
The "low cost index funds" comment
How come? I don't usually browse Veeky Forums

MPmaster
MPmaster

@JunkTop
iHaz was a tripfag troll on Veeky Forums who used to post a lot more. He got caught samefagging multiple times which clouded his claims of having $10 million networth. One of his calling cards was his incessant urging of people to put their money in low cost Vangaurd index funds. The reason the other user thinks this thread might be an iHaz troll attempt is because in the old iHaz threads there was also a questionable amount of people who would rush to his defense then abandon the thread.

spoiler: if it is an iHaz thread then someone with a new ID will rush to OPs defense again

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@MPmaster
tfw I just got memed on
FUCK
U
C
K

I'm a cuck

Illusionz
Illusionz

I am incredibly impressed this thread is still alive. One thing for sure is I am not posting by multiple ID's. Unlike ihaz, what do I serve to gain by posting without a tripcode?

The goal of this thread was to show some Veeky Forums people an alternative angle people are taking to achieving their goals in business. By no means do I want to be a Veeky Forums celebrity.
@Fuzzy_Logic
You put a lot of work into it but there is seriously no motive. If you want to believe that I am part of the zionist conspiracy to make sex for money a normalized thing, well then that is just clever, but over thought.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@GoogleCat
youre a faggot

aids infested faggot

you admit youre a hooker

enjoy jail faggot

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Raving_Cute
In the second or third date, we talk about what the benefactor wants out of the relationship and his budget. Just like any good negotiation the salesman does not open with a price.
Some benefactors will say things like 4 dates a month and they'll spend $1500 on gifts. A few want cash per date.

When they say cash per date, I encourage them to go on backpage because I know this is not going to evolve into an ongoing thing. Remember my goal here is getting to the point where they will go beyond the monthly payment, hopefully with industry connections.

My advice is just make a seeking arrangment profile and send a thoughtful message to every person who has been online in the last two days that has an income over 200k. Be sure to make your search radius under 50 miles.

Eventually people will respond. Go from there.

@girlDog
Well that is a cynical view and some people there are like that, but many benefactors actually are looking for some sort of relationship. It's hard to believe, but I have been on many dinner dates that just end at dinner.

@DeathDog
Viagra is a real thing, poppers help too. Most people over 40 man or woman have both at home.
I also try to have the lights off most times.

@Emberburn
Discretion is what keeps this whole thing alive.

@Fuzzy_Logic
I don't charge per date, those numbers are averaged out.

@Lunatick
I don't invest in index funds. In my spare time I trade volatility with vix futures and options on vix etfs.
I have a few long holds on grocery store stocks and a few tech giants.

The S&P barely moved over these last two years. index funds are only a meme in bull runs.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

My first instinct is disgust but I have to concede that you are right in your belief that America is not a meritocracy. Everything is sadly based on who you know. Is this the high point of the "networking based economy" we live in? The oldest profession being the most dominant profession?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@VisualMaster
Under rated post

Lunatick
Lunatick

@GoogleCat
You guys should consider it too to get out of Neetdom.
Why though? Being a NEET and a Wizard-in-training gives me a small sense of pride, because while I may never succeed, at least I'm comfy and never tried and failed. And I was never pathetic enough to pay for sex or be payed for sex.

farquit
farquit

@iluvmen
Do you know of any muscular people whose names don't start with a Z?

takes2long
takes2long

@Soft_member
some weird things like films, sailing and maybe food
lmao none of these are weird things
mainly wanted to say I appreciate the thread tho, fag

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Illusionz
Naw. You're just an attention whore. There is no zionist conspiracy here, just one lonely autist.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@New_Cliche
There are (dangerous) ways you could make money by improving thousands of lives.
mein ubermensch

Booteefool
Booteefool

@whereismyname
:< people at the top sure are fucked up.

Jesus.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Booteefool
you alluded earlier that you would just parachute should your identity get compromised. These circles tend to be very small (especially in tech). I know nobody is talking, but are you worried about a glass ceiling effect? C-sweeps are more gossipy than anyone in areas that don't involve business.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@hairygrape
fellow /fit/izen here, he's spot on.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

mfw the sucking dick Veeky Forums meme isn't actually a meme at all

Flameblow
Flameblow

@PackManBrainlure
no shit my man

there are many people who want the succ and not enough people to give it

supply and demand

King_Martha
King_Martha

r u gonna be on the other side of it in 20 years?

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