Find niche

Illusionz
Illusionz

Find niche
Create facebook page
5 posts a day
15 facebook bots that add friends until max (5k friends)
Invite all of them to like facebook page
10-50k facebook likes in a month
Shill shit on the facebook page
15k USD a month
8h a week max
Register offshore company in Hong Kong
pay 15% income tax

Why the fuck aren't you getting rich yet Veeky Forums?

All urls found in this thread:
http://justagirlandherblog.com/income-reports/
http://justagirlandherblog.com/income-reports/
http://likepusher.com/
http://justagirlandherblog.com/income-reports/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo4S5KFrpN8
http://www.blackhatworld.com/
https://www.streber.st/2015/07/offshore-ecommerce/
https://www.streber.st/2014/11/what-you-can-and-cannot-do-with-an-offshore-company-and-bank-account/
http://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tutorial-create-90-ban-resistant-facebook-accounts-using-some-brain-and-facedominator.859680/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1gbLmnxM0Q&feature=youtu.be&t=851
https://join.skype.com/JbfsO1Xk7MUU
https://join.skype.com/JbfsO1Xk7MUU
https://join.skype.com/MHANg3Y4DQUn
https://join.skype.com/oi5mnzhsC5WZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2mRA03dWUI
Need_TLC
Need_TLC

facebook

nice plan, pajeet

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Need_TLC
facebook
biggest website in the entire universe
biggest audience you will ever find
free

It's not a plan, I make 8k dollars a month and my bots don't even have max friends yet. I'm still in the scaling phase. 40k+ a month by 2017.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Illusionz
How do you go about finding a niche to do something like that? And is this your personal Facebook account or are you using a fake one?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Illusionz
@Spamalot
Also, what do you usually shill -- affiliate links that pay out money?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Spamalot
How do you go about finding a niche
The most difficult part is finding a niche but it's not actually all that difficult, anything can do. Think like a normie, self insert as a normie and ask yourself what you would want to see from a facebook page. An internet friend of mine who helped me out with the bots told me that he makes a few k with a fishing page. Your first 5 pages might only generate very little income but once you get the hang of it you can earn a lot.

@viagrandad
Affiliate links are good, I once earned like 3k from the affiliate programs of these lootbox kind of surprise boxes. But the income was short lived.

I have a blog that gets 50k-200k views a day and that earns me a lot from ads etc.

How to make bots? Learn some basic python, buy some very old facebook accounts from someone on the internet for maybe 200 bucks (I bought 15 account from 2008 for 300) and don't overdo it. Facebook loves to ban bots but when you're careful you won't get caught, worst case - buy more accounts.

You can do this as much as you want and scale it up. I'm still scaling it up, talking atm to someone who will sell me 100 facebook accounts but I'm a bit lazy to set everything up.

takes2long
takes2long

@cum2soon
Very insightful, thank you for the information.

massdebater
massdebater

@Illusionz
Find niche
First step is literally the hardest.
If I had a niche of course I would be doing it.

Inmate
Inmate

@massdebater
Just how the first visit at the gym is the hardest one.

Once you get past it and dedicate some time and money to learning this stuff it's easy and you get a hang out of finding niches.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Inmate
Anyway. Do you sell anything physical or it is just affiliate stuff and ads?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@kizzmybutt
Used to sell some shit from Aliexpress myself and dropshipping but then I realized how much time you spend getting frustrated at retarded chinks that don't do their job properly. You can make a lot of money from it though.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Illusionz
Sorry bro, 15k a month is a joke for Facebook marketing. Let me give you some tips:

Use a cloaker and run skincare, nutra and casino CPA offers with aggressive pre-landers on paid Facebook traffic.

I'm pulling 5-6k a day and I'm considered average compared to some of my friends. 5 figures daily is easily reachable on Facebook.

Only thing you need to worry about is your accounts. They will get banned along with the credit cards attached to them so you need to keep farming accounts and figure out a way to get new credit cards. 3-5 weeks is the max lifetime of an account running volume.

You can buy accounts for 1k each that have been aqeuately farmed and come with a payment method attached.

Buy a subscription to AdPlexity Native and use it to rip pre-landers to modify. Never mention your offer directly on Facebook, make it as compliant as possible using attention-catching headlines and images. Advertorials are your golden arrow. Fake news sites with fake interviews with winning gamblers etc.

This should give you enough to get started making some real money with Facebook. No I will not answer any more questions, I don't know why I even gave you this much.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Illusionz

buy monero

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Skullbone
I have 10k usd in DOA, Monero and Blackcoin each.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Illusionz
Where do I buy your eBook?

WebTool
WebTool

@Illusionz
Things that never happened: The post

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@TreeEater
I met alot of guys that were into this kind of stuff in Chiang Mai, Thailand. But they always seemed to be selling their training services quite cheaply.
I always wondered, why is someone supposedly earning $1,000,000+ per year spending their time training newbie internet marketers for a small fee.

girlDog
girlDog

yeah this is horse shit
might have sort of worked in like 2009

idontknow
idontknow

@Crazy_Nice
How do you handle verification on all those accounts?

If you have any kind of floating IP, you will get verification triggered?

I suppose you either churn and burn accounts, or have many sim-cards for verification, or have fixed proxies where you always log on from same IP?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Illusionz
Does it matter if its a group or a page?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

I've tried this, doesn't work. Facebook will ban your account in one day or two if you add that many friends. You need to buy like 5 year old facebook accounts and these costly.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@VisualMaster
And then you have to ask yourself this. Why would people sell facebook accounts that have 5k friends for below 100$ if they, like OP said, could make literally thousands of it? It's because you can't. You make more money making facebook accounts with that many friends and selling these to idiots,

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Illusionz
You will probably get banned from Facebook before you even get past the 1 week.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Burnblaze
My facebook page is up and running since 4 months already. Facebook only bans the friend bots if you're not careful enough, they don't give enough fucks to investigate further.

@StonedTime
I think everybody can post on a group so others might disturb your money making. And I think you can't advertise a group post as well. Don't know why someone would choose a group instead of a page but it's possible to make money with it I guess.

@idontknow
I buy old accounts, mostly hacked or abandoned ones.

@TreeEater
I don't have an eBook.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@DeathDog
Where is most of the money made on things like this?
Here's my page so far (I'm gonna make more):
facebook /RCPlanesClub/ ?notif_t=page_fan&notif_id=1469275738108432

I really appreciate some advice you've given so far, I need money to get through college.

I've got Amazon affiliate links, but I don't know how to REALLY monetize. The friends are bots btw, should I just buy an acct?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Illusionz
Thanks for the information you've shared in this thread user.

I've been very interested in this for a few months and have already set up a page that I hope to grow.

Is there any way that we could e-mail or Skype? I'm really interested in learning more!
I'd be willing to work for free, posting or interacting with fans on your pages, just for the opportunity to learn about your business.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

he downloaded free bots

have fun raided by the police and going 15 years to jail with the bot net ddos'in websites and routing CP searches through your PC.

5mileys
5mileys

@SomethingNew
Don't do this shit. You will never earn good money doing illegal trash like this and spamming. Instead create something useful and work on that. Might take longer but atleast you wont get this @haveahappyday

Emberburn
Emberburn

@SniperWish
Okay, first things first, you need organic likes. Actual people that are interested in your stuff and might drop some money on their hobby. In my experience buying bot likes are a complete waste of time and money. Post interesting shit and a lot of it, it doesn't have to be high quality stuff, nobody on facebook is used to high quality.

Use the facebook ad system, it costs like 2 dollars to advertise your post (These posts should be the only ones you put in some effort), getting a viral post through an ad isn't all that difficult and can get you a shitload of interested people. Try to get likes and shares to build your fanbase (don't be ashamed to post cringy posts, some of them get surprisingly big exposure).You need to build a fanbase and this can take some time, especially if you're new to this. Learn some python if you want and start writing your first few friends adder bots (this is how I get most of my likes), it isn't actually all that hard.

How to monetize? Understand that you won't get much money in the first few weeks (maybe even months) since you need to build your fans and learn how Facebook works. I get the best results from creating a blog and posting some articles there and just passively shilling my product, learning SEO can be incredibly beneficially. People don't trust a facebook page, they do trust a nice blog though.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Emberburn
@SniperWish
WRITE REVIEWS AND POST LINKS TO BUY IT FROM YOUR AFFILIATE LINKS. Don't just praise something and give them 10/10, make it believable, but you don't actually need a lot of knowledge to write reviews (just copy one and rewrite it). If you get an audience that subscribe to your reviews you're golden since they most likely are consumers and are looking for recommendations on what to buy. Creating a blog is easy as fuck, buy some cheap hosting for 2-3 bucks a months and get a cheap .com domain, use Wordpress, download a nice free theme and done.

This whole thing is all about learning what normies like and want to see and how to abuse their poor buying habits. Try a lot of stuff, tools and strategies and learn what works and what doesnt. You can learn a bunch about this on Blackhatworld and similar forums. Think yourself as well, having great ideas can really pay off.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@5mileys
@Flameblow
I code all my bots by myself or with some help of some friends, I understand all the code I'm using. Most bots you find are safe anyways, if you know where to search and aren't a retard.

What's this shit attitude of "create something useful and you'll be rich xD", only numales think like this. Money is money, business is business, if your goal is to make money, you focus on making money not pleasing someone.

All I do is completely legal. Even if it were illegal, if you're not retarded and greedy you shouldn't get caught, nobody cares about a small fish that pulls 10-20k a month. The government only seeks and destroys big fish like the KAT guy (estimated 23-50 million a year). You can't imagine how many 16 years old there are out there just pulling 10k a month by having set up some streaming website and using third party servers.

TechHater
TechHater

@SniperWish
nah thats bullshit, keep dreaming and making pathetic social media accounts ;-)

girlDog
girlDog

@TechHater
Dude, do you really think there's no money to be made on a website with BILLIONS of users?

Python is easy as fuck, you can teach yourself it in 2 weeks and write your first bots.

Look at some blogs and see how much fucking money they make.

http://justagirlandherblog.com/income-reports/

This is not mine but just look at this.

This is a way for smart people to make huge money

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Crazy_Nice
United States $40,000.00+ American Dollaridoos (US) a month?! Are you shitting me man?

If not, that is genuinely fucking impressive.

askme
askme

@SomethingNew
I'm not making that much yet. Know guys that make much more than that doing similar shit with instagram and twitter. It's all about scaling things up. If you can make 1k a month, you can make 10k a month.

massdebater
massdebater

@SomethingNew
http://justagirlandherblog.com/income-reports/

idontknow
idontknow

@askme
Alright I'm trying to understand what's going on here but I don't know shit about any of this.

So you're making money off of ad revenue? Or from selling something? Or some affiliate program? Or a combination of all these things? What are you monetizing exactly?

And so your main goal is just to drum up traffic and get people to come to your Facebook page?

Techpill
Techpill

I'm getting into this and I already own a couple old Facebook pages. One has 159 likes,then 50 likes,and the last has 29 likes. Should I start whoring these out to get started?

Evilember
Evilember

@Illusionz
@cum2soon
@TreeEater
Thank you good anons for this info.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

You should not add more then 50-100 friends to facebook a day.

And even then chances are high you'll get banned.

I reach 800 once, than I got banned.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@idontknow
Make money with whatever you like the most. Try everything out and see how it goes. I make most money right now with ads and affiliate programs. I used to do dropshipping kind of thing but I got so pissed of at wasting hours and hours just fixing the fuck ups of chinks. Too frustrating for me, but might go well for you.

@Techpill
That's nothing, my page first earned some real cash at like 10k likes, and even then it's not all that much. Once you get into 50k+ real likes it can really start taking off depending on your niche.

All I can say about this is that there are tons of techniques and all kinds of people swear on different types of techniques. Check out forums like Blackhatworld (making money, BlackhatSEO etc.), the information there is insane and it can really help you get an idea.

Oh and try learning Python, there are tons of guides out there. You don't need to be a genius or be super skilled to be able to tinker together bots to automatize things for you and they are very precious. Most bots works just fine even if you write some buggy shit code, you're not planning on releasing it but just using it personally.

Try, test and experiment. See what fails, see what work and see what might just pay a shitload, don't hold back on things you might find cringy or degenerate, this is about making money and frankly, a lot of people that are into fucked up shit spend a huge amount on it.

@Carnalpleasure
I agree, unless you buy some old accounts they get banned easily. That's the beauty of this though, everything is free or super cheap, so you can experiment and find what works and what doesn't.

Once you get really into this stuff, you'll get amazed what some people can actually pull off.

WebTool
WebTool

@CouchChiller
So you have both a blog and a facebook page? Do you post the majority of stuff on the blog, then link to it through your facebook page, where you've already gathered friends? And for picking niches, are these things you're personally into, or just random things you know normies are into and research it enough to sound like you know what you're talking about?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@CouchChiller
Is this possible only in US or in other countries? For example Russia/Finland/Baltic region?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@CouchChiller
I was thinking about doing this on twitter a while back but never did. Do you have an email or something I can contact you on to just get some basic advice? Thanks user

Techpill
Techpill

@Crazy_Nice
Where do you find bots / what do you use?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Techpill
...having read the rest of the thread, thanks OP

King_Martha
King_Martha

Do you need stolen accounts for this?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@DeathDog
Would it be possible to purchase the friend bought off of you? PM me a price if so.

[email protected]

viagrandad
viagrandad

God dammit I have a FB page with 2500 like atm for somthing niche and marketable but I have no fucking clue how to make money off this

happy_sad
happy_sad

@WebTool
Yes, use facebook to get an audience and get them to go on your blog and then earn money through affiliates and ads. LEARN SEO if you want to compete in google searches. Your niche can be whatever you want, something you like or not it doesn't matter since you can actually write a lot of content by just stealing other's. Just be creative.

@whereismyname
Yes, all my pages are in spanish and I'm working on a japanese one as well.

@Poker_Star
I have absolutely no idea about Twitter, got banned once and just stopped bothering after that. Might want to try blackhatworld or other forums for more advice on that stuff.

@Techpill
Code them myself and get help from some friends, might find some on the internet but gotta be careful and it's difficult to find a bot that does exactly what you want.

@Spamalot
I only have Spanish accounts so no.

@King_Martha
No you dont, you can use them though, you will not get into trouble for using stolen accounts anyways.

@viagrandad
Keep on posting, maybe pay some money for facebook ads and scale it up. Create a blog, review or write articles, incorporate affiliate programs, ads etc.

viagrandad
viagrandad

I have a blog with good 25+ original articles I put time into and this blog is 3 months old. All content on it is OC. I too have twitter and facebook account attached to it and right now I am growing my twitter account with 100 followers a day with a script and a program, hope I won't get banned.

idontknow
idontknow

@happy_sad
How do you do "maintenance" of your fake FB profiles? Do they regularly publish fake news about themselves to look credible? Or do you just shill your stuff once, then let the profile die?

It looks like big work to publish fake news on dozens of profiles, even with a bot.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@idontknow
I'm guessing you use your bots to republish news from various websites you selected previously. So link various bots to various blogs/etc. depending on the interests of the friends you're farming.

Find some home & living blogs, designer blogs, fashion news sites and randomly feed articles at random intervals. Add people from groups and pages related to the content you're forwarding, you can probably get away without writing more than one actual post a week/month.

I am interested though OP.. How do you handle the IP's/masking of so many profiles? Surely facebook will get wary or catch on easily if you log in to so many accounts from the same proxies, or if the proxies are shared between known bots? You need unique, dedicated proxies for every bot.

I would really appreciate an answer, thanks for all the info so far. Good thread if I've ever seen one.

WebTool
WebTool

@happy_sad
And how do you connect bank account with the profile? Does each profile needs a different bank account connected to it?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@CouchChiller
Where can I buy/get old facebook accounts?

askme
askme

@cum2soon
blackhatforums

massdebater
massdebater

@cum2soon
http://likepusher.com/

idontknow
idontknow

@Gigastrength
@idontknow
There's a really neat option in facebook, it's called "invite friends to group", it's surprisingly how many people actually like your page when you invite them. like 1/5 to 1/3 will just straight up like your page.Then you share your facebook page once in a while and forget about the account.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@idontknow
I'm afraid I don't follow.. You get your bots to join your group and then push your content from the group, through the bots, then onto their friends?

Besides, the question was if it isn't suspect that the bot accounts never actually post anything of their own. Is them auto-pushing content from a bunch of groups really enough?

SniperWish
SniperWish

So I started to research some of the stuff you gave me and a lot seemed a bit blurry. For how long have you been doing this? I'm kinda newbie to anything of this.

What about proxies? So every webpage/blog needs its own proxy or each facebook profile needs its own proxy?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@hairygrape
1. bots add friends
2. bots invite friends to group through pic related
3. people like your page and from now on get your post on their wall.
4. people will like and share your content as well and get you more likes and people interested etc.
5. you can share some posts from your page as well or just straight up share your page
6. Repeat.

Never had a problem with just sharing my own posts on my bots but I dunno. You can post some shit picture of Jesus with "like if you love jesus, ignore if you love satan" on your bot profiles if you want but I have no idea if facebook really cares all that much.

I've gotten some bots banned because I used new accounts and added friends super aggressively but never got any of my pages suspended (Just make sure to create the page on a non bot account)

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@RumChicken
So Facebook doesn't give that much of a shit if the bot account only comes online to add friends and invite them to groups?

Thanks for the great info either way, I really appreciate a quality thread on here for once.

Another question: what do you do about IP and verifications? Does FB not care if the bots log in from one IP? Or if the IP is different every time? Or hell, if the IP is different and shared by many people, some of which are previously banned bots?

I'm guessing you need to source clean, stable proxies somehow. One per account. Correct?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@SniperWish

I've been doing this since around October last year (and I'm still a big newb compared to others), in the first few months I haven't earned much (or anything at all) and have just tried to experiment and learn as much as possible.

I usually have multiple facebook pages on a single account. You don't need proxies for each blog, webpage or facebook page.

I have never used proxies for any of my stuff but the only reason I think they would be useful is if you want to really scale it up big.

Try and learn is what I have to say about this stuff.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@BunnyJinx
Haven't had a problem with facebook yet because of my bots that add friends and just invite them.

No clue about IPs and Proxies since I haven't bothered with them just quite yet. Can't say much about this because I haven't gotten punished yet for not using proxies so I don't bother because proxies for me would just be unnecessary cost.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Sounds like me

Find niche
Create FB Ad
Make 200% ROI
Spending ~$1k/day for ~$2k/day profit

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Lunatick
Yes, FB ads are very useful once you get a hang out of them.

likme
likme

@Booteefool
@Lunatick
People still click ads? I can't even remember the last time I saw an ad, let alone clicked it.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@likme
Facebook ads are really sneaky, they just show up in your wall and it looks like a normal post, as if a fanpage you liked posted it. Has to be one of the most useful ads on any website.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Gigastrength
Exactly. People even tag their friends in my ads.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Gigastrength
Yeah but don't people notice it's not from one of their friends/liked pages? It's usually fairly obvious to me.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@PackManBrainlure
Rule 1 : People are dumber than you think and don't think a lot especially on the internet.

see:@Methnerd

Snarelure
Snarelure

Why are you making posts in Spanish? Is it some kind of click bait or are you basically translating lesser known English posts into Spanish, adding some images and getting profit of it?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Carnalpleasure
mfw people don't have a mental model of all their liked pages' post styles, immediately flagging posts which don't fit the general standard to be double-checked and promptly ignored and scrolled past

Evilember
Evilember

@Skullbone
I'd be willing to bet that you'd at least stop scrolling and look at my ad. Taking advantage of popular things atm (hint hint).
Making 200% ROI.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Lunatick

do you advertise any affilates? tell me more about it

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Snarelure
satured niche in English
isn't represented at all in Spanish

Easy niches, that's why I do it in Japanese now too, I'm good at languages.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@BlogWobbles
I have this idea about architecture. Posting some pretty pictures of buildings, writing some reviews and some articles about them. What do you say? Or should I go after more complex niche?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@ZeroReborn

It's alright, you have to think how you will earn money. I have no idea about architecture and you'll have to find affiliates or other things to make money with it. Ads pay only well if you have a huge amount of people. Don't think too hard about quality posts, quantity over quality should be the rule. The only thing that should have quality is the articles with the affiliate links. Don't worry too much about your first niche, try shit out and try to get a big audience. Your first month or two might just be you experimenting with shit and seeing what works and what doesn't. Don't shy away from using facebook adds, they're not expensive at all and easy to use. Don't limit yourself to only facebook. Just because I use it doesn't mean you can't use youtube, twitter, instagram W/E. See what works and what doesn't, every niche can be extremely different.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

He doesn't make more than 100 a month. I provide fake traffic for both kik/facebook and pretty much anything else in exchange for money on two forums and I know that this simply isn't possible. OP is a lying retard.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Fried_Sushi
Thank what is possible? tell me

Lunatick
Lunatick

@PurpleCharger
If you have high amount of visitors per day than potential advertisers contacts you or you contact them?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Need_TLC
You aren't making 15k a month by getting 10-50k facebook likes on your posts. And even then, what are you monetizing? You keep dodging all the normal questions and just answer people who ask you about your money.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Fried_Sushi

If you had the decency to actually read the thread instead of just mindlessly saying that everything is fake just because someone makes a lot of easy money you would see this link:

http://justagirlandherblog.com/income-reports/ (this is not my website, just something I found)

I'm sure you're going to say that that's fake too. Youtubers make millions, why do you think that bloggers and facebookers can't? As I said before, there are a bunch of 16 years olds that make a shitload of easy dough by setting up streaming sites.

When I first started I thought that all of this shit is fake too, but you realize after a while that it's not.

What would be the point of me posting and lying in this thread for multiple days already? I'm not even selling or shilling my own shit in this thread . I give out (fairly basic) information that I know and maybe help an user or two out. I'm not scared that any of you will be actual competition to me because I'm not doing any of this in English.

But go ahead, say all I post is fake and ignore everything, instead of maybe doing some actual research.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Garbage Can Lid
As I said beforehand, I'm not making 15k a month but 8k because I haven't scaled it up, I'm expecting to earn 15k in the next few months though. I have 15 bots with all of them having around 4 thousands friends (5k is max) and am working on setting up many more, that's 60k people I can instantly invite to a fanpage. I post 5 things (images, memes, articles) a day per page and get this way a lot of likes and shares and people reached.

I'm not dodging any questions, aS I said multiple times already I'm monetizing ads and affiliate programs. Do you know how many different affiliate programs there are? Just make a google search and you'll find hundreds, if not thousands - amazon, aliexpress, crunchyroll, lootbox etc. etc. etc. .I think ads are very self explanatory - Google adsense, infolinks and many more.

I'm not answering only people that are asking about my money, can't you read? I'm trying to answer as many questions as possible, of course I don't know all about this quite yet because I'm still a newb compared to others (only about 10 months), that's why I said multiple times that Blackhatworld and other forums have a shitload of information on this and if anybody is really interested in it they should check out and participate in these forums.

I really hope you don't believe that making 8k a month through the internet is impossible, I hope you didn't fall for the silicon valley startup meme.

likme
likme

@w8t4u
>>15k USD a month

Playboyize
Playboyize

@likme
Read more than just the OP, or don't, it looks like you don't want to make any money this way anyways, I'm sure your business or economics degree will land you a comfy 40h a week 70k a year job.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Playboyize

how much do you spend monthly on ads hosting software electricity etc.?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@RumChicken
Thanks again OP for the precious information.

The only problem in your plan (IMO) is the Hong Kong company. If you live in a Latin American country, it's not that important, but if you're from Europe... the local tax man will find out at some point (with AEOI or through other means) and claim much more than the 15% corporate tax + make you pay penalties, since the company isn't really operated in Hong Kong.

I guess it's worth moving to a zero-tax country (and moving your corporation there too) once this kind of business really flourishes.

@Gigastrength
Interesting. A profile like that would look really off to me... but I'm too suspicious to buy or even like anything from Facebook in the first place. So I guess it's okay for more gullible or careless people, there are the ones that will pour money anyway.

5mileys
5mileys

@girlDog
OP do you have advice or recommendations for a good scraper tutorial or bot that I could use with python?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@StonedTime
Around 2k.

@5mileys
Tons of tutorials on youtube and google, if you don't know python yet I learned it through "python the hard way"

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@TurtleCat
How big was your first investment?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@CodeBuns
Like 50 bucks for a website

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Nojokur
Can I see what kind of features your website has or at least pm me on [email protected]? I have never made a website so it's kind "fogy" for me.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@5mileys
scrapy ftw

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Emberfire
Just install Wordpress and install a theme maybe install a module or two. Wordpress is literally all point and click. Very easy to install, very easy to use.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@happy_sad
If you buy fb ads you're an imbecile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo4S5KFrpN8

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Poker_Star
Twitter bans when you abuse their API or try to scrape.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@BlogWobbles
Use or buy a responsive theme tho

JunkTop
JunkTop

@BlogWobbles
I like WP too, just be mindful if you ever want to add back end or expand LOLOLOL. Also incompatible with some affiliate stuff or more work to shoehorn it in than just putting up a site in 10 minutes w/bootstrap using a them you buy for $15 on themeforest

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Gigastrength
facebook doesn't give a shit unless you post some kind of offensive/illegal content. You can fucking spam away. Twitter will ban tho

Nojokur
Nojokur

@askme
What's the specific address? There's like 2 dozen websites with similar names. Which one you guys think is best?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Nojokur
http://www.blackhatworld.com/

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Stark_Naked
cool thx.

9/10 anons agree? I don't want some botnet faggotry trying to hack my PC within 30 seconds of going there

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@cum2soon
I'm not very familiar with tax havens like Hong Kong. Do you pay no taxes on this at all? How do you set the company up?

Also, what's the important of an old Facebook account? Is Facebook less likely to terminate it because of that? What if some of the old followers see that it's become a big shill page and they report it?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Lord_Tryzalot
Yes, I pay 0% tax. In Hong Kong you only pay tax on income generated inside Hong Kong, outside is tax free. My "office" is set up in a tiny room somewhere in Hong Kong and I pay around 1k a year for a secretary (one of the requirements).

No idea how this works in the US, I'm from Europe and I consulted a tax guy (a friend) and he told me it's legal and no problem, now the problem comes when I want to get the money into a local bank and get it out, that's why I pay 15% tax (which is much better than 45%). Might wanna research a lot about this before getting into it though.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@girlDog
I'm confused, the bots are fake Facebook accounts, or the bots are programs that add people and invite them to your page? And if it's the latter, how do the bots know that the people they invited will be interested in the page? Does your bot just look for people with, say, video games in their interests if you have a video game page, and friend them?

Sorry if I sound ignorant but I was never much of a Facebook user.

Evilember
Evilember

@Garbage Can Lid
Visiting websites do not endanger your PC, user.

Also, they are not that kind of blackhat.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@SniperWish
You can't imagine how many 16 years old there are out there just pulling 10k a month by having set up some streaming website and using third party servers.
I'm actually confused about this. The government would obviously tax out the ass, so how would these 16 year olds be setting up companies in Hong Kong.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@LuckyDusty
bot likes are useless. So I created a script that will click on someone's profile, go to a photo, click on the likes of the photo, add everybody that liked that photo and go to the next profile and next photo. Then, once I have accumulated a specific number of likes, I invite everybody to like my facebook page, most of these are indeed organic likes and will be engaged with your website but you will get your occasional pajeet here and there.

@LuckyDusty
Interesting video, I have better experience with facebook ads, but I use the promotion of a post option, not the promote facebook page.

@LuckyDusty
They don't register it in Hong Kong, or if they do they do it on fake, stolen information. . I was just making an example of how easy it can be to make huge sums of money. I know a guy with a streaming website that launders money through CS:GO skins, people find a lot of creative ways to get their money. You don't need (and really shouldn't, unless you live in eastern europe or the philiphines or something) to do this since you're not setting up an illegal streaming service. All I'm doing and explaining here is completely legal.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@BlogWobbles
Typical affilaite marketing 'gurus' sell their outdated strategies to newbies in order to cash in. 99% of gurus charging you small amounts are hoodwinking you. You're not going to succeed in affiliate marketing by following these types of people.

You need to attend conferences and find like-minded people with a genuine desire to succeed and grow.

Check out charlesngo.com for some good beginner's info and STM forum if you're really looking to get started.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@lostmypassword
Thanks user, seems reasonable.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@BlogWobbles
Cunts that try to cash out newbies. Find friends and chat with them, read a lot and try a lot of things only way to learn.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Fried_Sushi
Kind of leaning that way, you get paid on clickthrough, which exists, but is dismal on spam. Volume is actually less important than clickthrough. 5 people clickthrough out of 10 people is worth more than 500,000 unique page views and 2 clickthroughs

You *can* absolutely make money online using affiliates. I'm just not sure this monetization really adds up.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Btw a little tip for people trying to set up bots or that are interested in this.

Use pictures of a CUTE NERDY GIRL, don't use a picture of a half naked big tited girl, it will get reported and banned. Cute nerdy girls get friends incredibly fast.

@Illusionz
Depends what you're doing. There is pay per thousand clicks, pay per click on the ad, affiliate programs and other stuff like straight up sponsorship and brand deals (never had them though). Affiliates can earn you 10 cents or even 10 dollars per user, depending what kind of affiliate it is.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@BunnyJinx
I'd be careful with the CS:GO skin thing. People are pretty pissed at Valve and CS:GO skin gambling streamers right now.

idontknow
idontknow

@MPmaster
Yep, I'm not recommending illegal shit or laundering money to anybody, not worth it. As the saying goes, if you do illegal shit you will get caught one day. Better to do legal things that might require a bit more time and effort but wont end with you in jail.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Garbage Can Lid
There are actually affiliates (closer to partnerships really) that pay substantially more than that (they actually pay on sellthrough, not clickthrough), but it requires actual effort and some vetting, rather than shady fly by night spam bullshit and a wordpress page where you misspell 25% of the words.

Like I said, there's certainly money on the table. But the good money isn't really easy money. And they're not going to be cool with paying you by bitcoin to a fucking offshore tax haven.

Don't get caught up in this tax haven bullshit if you live in the US. Hong Kong or Delaware or w/e the fuck it is this week.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@TurtleCat
I don't think tax havens are a big deal, but I'll do some research about it in the US but I think income tax in the US isn't as harsh where I live (up to 45 fucking percent). Paying usually goes smooth, for example, I had no problem with Lootcrate to pay me.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@PurpleCharger
Yeah, EU is retarded, honestly, I don't blame you. Just saying US taxability may differ markedly. I'm *only* familiar with US taxation.

Ireland is probably a better choice than England though. I'd say Russia if in Eastern Europe, but honestly I won't do business with Russians except people I know IRL, or people who've been vouched for personally by people I know.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@PurpleCharger
What currency they pay you in you don't mind my asking?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@TalkBomber
USD

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@lostmypassword
I consulted a tax guy (a friend) and he told me it's legal and no problem

No. It's a fraud (and you know it). Having a nominee director in a real office somewhere doesn't count, since he doesn't manage effectively your company.

You're the one managing your company in a EU country, so you must pay corporate tax (and income tax of course) in your EU country. Even if the company is formally in Hong Kong, even with a nominee director.

Go see any business lawyer (not "some guy") or one of the big four consulting firms. They will confirm what I say.

Get ready to be raped by the taxman if he finds out (which may very well happen with AEOI), or get ready to move to another country with low or zero taxes (you only have to live there 183 days per year).

At your level of earnings, this is important. GO CONSULT A COMPETENT PROFESSIONAL ASAP.

girlDog
girlDog

@Harmless_Venom
I'm planning on moving away anyways, mass migration, awful laws for smaller businesses and leftists are unbearable. I'm going to Taiwan next month to see how it is there, and I'm ready to stay there for quite some while.

I really am not concerned about this at all, worst case I'll have to pay.

Btw the tax guy is a friend of mine that studied taxation law

viagrandad
viagrandad

@lostmypassword
Also, regarding offshore companies, you may want to read this excellent blog, starting with these two articles that directly concern you:

Offshore Ecommerce
https://www.streber.st/2015/07/offshore-ecommerce/

What You Can and Cannot Do With an Offshore Company and Bank Account
https://www.streber.st/2014/11/what-you-can-and-cannot-do-with-an-offshore-company-and-bank-account/

cum2soon
cum2soon

@viagrandad
Thanks, will read them later for sure.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@girlDog
Never take free advice from friends (even if you think they're competent), but only paying advice from professionals.

The advice he gave you was utter garbage. You can get away with it, but it is completely illegal.

Why Taiwan anyway? There are better destinations if you just want to avoid paying taxes. (The Streber blog is full of ideas about relocating to a business-friendly, low-tax country.)

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Bidwell
Taiwan seems like a nice place, right now I'm planning on a 3 months vacation and then either get a visa or fly to Japan. Gotta use your money somehow I guess.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@massdebater

How the fuck does she make that much?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Poker_Star
Fine. If you like the region, you may also consider Hong Kong itself, and Singapore... since income tax is so much lower there. But living costs are higher than Taiwan.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@BlogWobbles
I just want to get out of this hellhole forever. Do you know how it feels when your childhood town becomes a refugee camp? Awful, absolutely awful. The park where I had my first kiss is covered with filth and graffiti nowadays.

@Skullbone
Affiliate + great SEO.

You can click on one month and get a longer article with her explaining her earnings in depth. Pretty cool that someone does this, almost everybody is very secret about this stuff.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@JunkTop
Is this the famous European country than begins with "Esp" and ends with "aña"?

I know that feel (France here). Usually you have the option to move to a better neighbourhood, but that won't change the fact the taxes and the business climate are rotten in our countries.

There are countries with softer taxes in the EU though, just look at Malta or Cyprus (taxes can get really, really low with a local accountant). No visa needed there, no immigration problems. And there's also Switzerland of course.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Supergrass
I'm sick and tired of Europe, I'm ready to leave all behind (don't have good connections with family anyways) and live a happy life with some Asian chicks.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Fried_Sushi
What parts of Europe have you lived in?

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Bidwell
DESU, I've paid for bad advice, too. Accountants in particular are notorious for outsourcing stuff (payroll, incorporations, etc) and having other lower paid licensed professionals do the work (e.g. LTP, enrolled agents) and I've found much accountant advice isn't worth shit because they haven't done any actual accounting in decades and have no idea what the law even is and their people can only file routine returns.

A few of my friends are on business. I value their advice. If this was the US, this would be hilariously illegal, like I said before though. I have no idea how it is like I said in w/e jurisdiction this is.

Someone always has one of these half-assed tax schemes. The Delaware one was a fad in startups for a while. It actually costs more and makes your returns more complex. If you're actually following the law, you don't save any money. Same with Hong Kong.

The main reason you incorporate off-shore is liability, not taxation. If someone sues you, they're never collecting from the Cook Islands or somewhere.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Firespawn
It is illegal everywhere, except in zero-tax countries. Now the question is to know if the tax authorities do care or not about it practically.

The answer is: in any first world country (and especially the ones with high tax levels), yes. In other countries, not that much.

Regarding paying for advice, I was more thinking about a good business lawyer (I love lawyers that were previously taxmen), or a big consulting firm. They rarely do give bad advice. If you have a doubt, consult another professional.

I avoid accountants for legal advice, just like I'd avoid lawyers to do my accounting.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@ZeroReborn
illegal everywhere

Almost everywhere, actually. Certain semi-tax havens like Malta are very lax about it.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Illusionz
So when you say you buy accounts, do you just buy the account that you use to make the page, or do you buy each individual account that adds the friends to invite to the page?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@King_Martha
The accounts I create facebook pages are just normal ones I create myself. You don't spam on this account so facebook doesn't care.

I buy accounts to use them for bots.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@haveahappyday
Damn, that's probably going to cost more than I thought because I assumed the original page was an older account and the bottled ones were the new, free ones. Makes sense though.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@haveahappyday
Also, how many pages do you have that amount to 8k a month?

RumChicken
RumChicken

Is it possible to earn decent money without using social media sites for traffic?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@GoogleCat

You need proxies?

I got proxies.

5mileys
5mileys

Can someone greentext me how to start on this? I'm confused by different opinions

RavySnake
RavySnake

@VisualMaster
You said that you should write one original article per week/month, but other posts in the group. Are they original content made by you or just shared posts from other groups?

WebTool
WebTool

@haveahappyday
Do you use any kind of mass planer?
Can you recommend a good VPN for that kind of use? And proxies?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@RumChicken
you could create your own blog, then do old school ads, like banners build into your website...

Do ad blockers even recognize old school html code when you click on an image?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

You're all nothing but a bunch of CYBER CRIMINALS

Under different circumstances you'd all be pimping women or selling heroine to school children

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Sharpcharm
Making money with ads and affiliates is now considered illegal and criminal

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Sharpcharm
lmaoooooooooooooooooooo

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Sharpcharm
pimping women
If they were willing, I don't see why not.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

I was thinking about starting up a FB page for my niche. There is already one with thousands of followers but the owner only posts like once or twice a month.

Few things I had in mind.

1. Have bots comb through that guy's FB page and invite the people that share/like his stuff to my page.

2. Scrap other websites for links and posts and have another bot repost that content on my page. Few posts per day.

I'd spend the rest of the time doing a little quality control. Any thoughts on this process? The bots are no problem for me, but I'm just not sure if I could get enough people into my page this way rather than having friend adding bots doing 'cold' invites.

Also how exactly does advertising work if I get there for FB? The page I have I guess could be set up with an amazon affiliate but I don't really know much about it. Obviously I'll do more research if my page gets big enough but still not sure if it's worth the initial effort. The niche I have is kind of sciency/techie related so I know I could shill electronics but that doesn't seem to be enough.

I also had a black hat method not posted here when it comes to botting with real FB accounts but I don't think I'd be comfortable. It would involve personally keylogging high traffic areas, having bots log into the logged FB accounts and liking/inviting my page. But then all red flags point to me.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@BunnyJinx
I'm just not sure if I could get enough people into my page this way rather than having friend adding bots doing 'cold' invites.

why not do both?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@BunnyJinx
Oh I really like your idea actually of abusing keyloggers to get invites and likes. Imagine if you keylog 500 accounts with 1k+ friends each, seems pretty nice. Might just want to invite all friends to dozens if not hundreds of different pages to cloak your identity. There's a neet firefox addon that invites all your friends to like a page, really handy.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Need_TLC
caring if your women were willing
don't become a pimp
you'll end up the whore

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

http://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/tutorial-create-90-ban-resistant-facebook-accounts-using-some-brain-and-facedominator.859680/

Here's a pretty newbie friendly guide I found, never used it but it seems alright.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@CodeBuns
btw you can download Facedominator nulled very easily

whereismyname
whereismyname

I run a growing fb weeaboo/anime page. I just started but I am approaching 1000 followers, I know it's not much but I do get good post reach/responses.

How do you make money on fb pages anyway?

farquit
farquit

@whereismyname
What is it called?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@BunnyJinx
I have never used keylogger. Any tips how to do it or any legit tutorials?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Illusionz
post on Veeky Forums
Facebook shilling post
exaggerate profits
15k USD a month
make buying Facebook accounts seem cheap in comparison
200 bucks lololol
u can do it 2 attitude
owns several Facebook account selling services

Tomorrow you're going to tell us how to earn thousands on Instagram, aren't ya?

idontknow
idontknow

@cum2soon
there's literally nothing he's shilling and he has zero profit from posting this shit here other than... shitposting, which he isn't, but you are doing.

likme
likme

@haveahappyday
I know this is a trite thing to say but if you have to ask you shouldn't be bothering. Check out the book Violent Python. Make your own. The hard part is spreading it.

@cum2soon
It's interesting to note that no one in this thread seems to know how the money is actually made from doing this other than affiliate shilling. But I don't think OP is shilling any FB services in any effective way. Most of this stuff can and should only be done by those who know how to program.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Anyway OP, is there a way to contact you?

I'd like to shill my own stuff in the future, and I'm looking for people like you who already have a working farm of bots. We may find an arrangement.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@cum2soon
doesn't know about how to make $30,000 / day with Facebook ads
it's as simple as investing in Bitcoin in 2007. cmon

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@whereismyname

Fapping to 2d because 3d no longer interests me.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Illusionz
How many likes do you have atm on your fb page?

WebTool
WebTool

@Sharpcharm
Cause you start out affiliate marketing
Then you're robbing liquor stores
And selling Crack
And running over school kids with your car

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Fried_Sushi
What do you mean by that? How is it possible to earn 30k a day using Facebook ads?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Illusionz
I want to try and make a profile in such highly populated territory as Saudi Arabia. Is it worth making all posts Arabic? What was/is your experience?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@cum2soon
posts on Veeky Forums
studies cuckoldery in a mediocre US university
has 60k in debt
earns 50k a year working half of his day, every day
think's he's going to be rich daytrading 2k dollars on Robinhood.

Do you really think I'm shilling for facebook? fucking facebook on Veeky Forums?

and btw, you can make thousands with instagram as well but ignorant people can't look past something they dislike and see a gold vein.

Again, if you were able to read you would understand that I don't have facebook accounts selling services but various webpages and blogs set up and use ads + affiliate programs to earn money.

@whereismyname
Create a blog, write anime reviews, post webms, post a lot, learn SEO, get more likes.

Shill crunchyroll, use their affiliate program, get people registered, make money.

Register for Japanbox (or W/E it's called), review them each month, exagerate it as fuck, affiliate program, make money.

Affiliate program with Amazon or other retailers to sell figurines and posters (no fucking clue if this exists though).

Bunch of ideas just from the top of my head.

1k likes is a little bit to few. People say that natural organic grow starts at around 10k likes but you might have a different experience.

@Firespawn
around 300k on 2 pages and 60k on another.

@kizzmybutt
No fucking clue about Saudi Arabia, high income countries are usually great for affiliate programs though.

@Illusionz
No thank you, if I contact even a single guy on this entire thread I will be instantly called out as a shill that only wants to make money. Not interested, I share some info here and places where you can find more. Literally all I know, which isn't much, is self taught through forums and youtube vids.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Illusionz
Because it's called advertisement fraud, and it's illegal.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@eGremlin
It's not advertisement fraud and it's completely legal, worst case that will happen is your account may get banned for violating Facebooks terms.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@PurpleCharger
Genuinely curious: Can you please explain why this isn't illegal? Because it sure sounds sketchy as fuck m8

Nojokur
Nojokur

What kind of success could I see with an Amazon niche site?

I already have a full-time job, but I'd like to make at least an extra $2-3k per month on the side.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@GoogleCat
Because it's not illegal to have bots add friends and then invite those friends to your facebook page and then try to shill products onto them, it violates facebook's terms yes, but not any laws.

It's not even sketchy, you can go full blown out sketchy if you really want though. Like using Keylogers or viruses that auto invite into your facebook page or even much bigger things. Scaling legal shit isn't hard, just takes work and time. The skies your limit man, the skies your limit.

@Nojokur
from $0 a month to quitting your full time job because of earning so much.

I can't just tell you that you'll earn x amount after y time guaranteed. But I can tell you that if you put in the hours and work and learn a lot, the chances aren't low to be able to quit your full time job after a while.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Illusionz
Register offshore company in Hong Kong
you don't know shit about law apparently

Skullbone
Skullbone

steal content and offer nothing of value
in a legal grey area
instant riches
through facebook
Seems like a plan made by third worlders who wish to stay poor.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@ZeroReborn
I'll have you know I expect to gain all of my wealth through Tumpcoin

Let me speak with your manager

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Evil_kitten
Registering offshore companies is not an illegal act.

Techpill
Techpill

@ZeroReborn
Once again thanks for all the wonderful information. It's looking great and I can't wait to get started.

However I likely have a static IP, so using my regular one is not an option. Will I need to spend tons on proxies or is there a third option?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Techpill
I'm exited too. Read the article that user gave a while ago.
blackhatworld com/seo/tutorial-create-90-ban-resistant-facebook-accounts-using-some-brain-and-facedominator.859680/ . Just restart your IP in a while. Anyways, user, thanks for everything. This thread is the best I've seen in a while.

FastChef
FastChef

@Carnalpleasure
If I have a static IP, restarting it won't help unfortunately.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Just wanted to chime in here anons and warn you all about copy/pasting articles written by someone else. You can get majorly sued for that. Always rewrite articles if you take that path. I know a blogger who sometimes makes more money suing people for stealing his articles on his tech blog than actually shilling his blog.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Lunatick
So just give credit. If it's not content you're shilling for earnings purposes, but rather audience building and report, just link to their blogs along with the most interesting parts of the article.

It honestly seems even better, because the more legit blogs/sites you quote and link to the harder it will be to tell when you shill something.

But thanks for the tip, it's duly noted.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Have you ever gotten a page deleted?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@FastChef
@Techpill
You can always get a new plan, or if you make some money off of it you can always invest into a second or third internet plan.

Being exited is all nice and good, but don't expect to make a lot of money (or maybe not even any at all) for the first month or two.

@Lunatick
Agree, rewriting articles is like 15 minutes per article once you get efficient at it. Copy pasting might just end up with more trouble later down the road.

@Sharpcharm
Nope, not yet, just keep your pages on clean accounts and you should be fine

cum2soon
cum2soon

@TurtleCat
So you have all 15 bot accounts on your home IP? Or you have proxies? If you explained earlier I must've missed it. Elaborate if you could.

Evilember
Evilember

@ZeroReborn
Dude, big thanks for contribooting to this thread.
What's your view on content marketing?
Also, what about driving traffic to a small business?

I'm in a "creative industry" and I'm thinking about how I can build an online following and maybe self myself as a content marketer to big PR or Marketing firms, or do strategic partnerships directly with brands, or fail that: shill shit for medium sized businesses. Making videos, photography, written content etc. etc. doing their online branding.

Thoughts?
Like you're expertise seem to be in massive content, quantity not quality and I'm assuming that's because there's no money in quality content?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@cum2soon
Nowadays I have 2 internet plans, one for personal use and one for my bots, so I just made sure to buy one that offered a dynamic IP.

@Evilember
There's money in quality posts, there are a lot of blogs making a lot of money just having 5 high quality posts with perfect SEO.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Crazy_Nice
Why bother sharing all this with us?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Spamalot
Why not? I don't do this in English so you won't be competition anyways. I spent the last 6 years on Veeky Forums so might as well share the little I know and maybe get an user started. It's a great way to become a NEET nowadays.

Skullbone
Skullbone

You mentioned that you taught yourself enough python to start writing bots in about 2 weeks? What methods did you use to learn? Most guides I've seen are comprehensive and time consuming. While I would like to eventually get a deeper understanding of the code, I'd like to get something useful out of it quickly, then move on from there. Sort of like learning a quick guitar tab to a song instead of studying music theory first. And thanks for all the information. It's turning out to be a good thread.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@haveahappyday
OP how do you deal with SIM card problem? Do you purchase them on the internet or any other way? I wish to purchase SIM cards from Germany, UK, but I can't find a way to get them except shipping them from eBay.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Crazy_Nice
Can you provide us with any materials?

Maybe you have some kind of eBook or webcourse we might be interested in?

Maybe you could offer us 1 on 1 free training for a fee.

Methshot
Methshot

OP how did you manage to program your own bots? like where and how did you learn that?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Methshot

First you learn the basics with a noob friendly website or book like Learn Python the hard way (desu you don't even need to go through it all), then you read tutorials about how to make simple bots (there's a bunch of them on youtube) and maybe even read the code of a downloadable bots. I say that you can write your first bot in very little time because you don't need to write good code for it, neither do you need to make an interface or anything - just piecing together some ugly code is all you need.

@SniperWish
Do 5-10 dollar prepaid sim cards not exist in America?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Great advice! thanks OP

Im trying to make gmail accounts for my bots, but I keep getting asked for phone verification.

I tried a bunch of websites that verify for you, but most of their numbers were already used up.

any other way to get around this bullshit?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Sharpcharm

not already owning 100+ gmail accounts

What are you? some sort of normie?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Why would you specifically need gmail accounts anyway

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Sir_Gallonhead
How do you get started shilling? Like do you reach out to companies or vice versa?

FastChef
FastChef

@Sharpcharm
Just don't fucking use gmail top kek

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I make 4 thousands dollars a month with a blog that has 8 posts about a specific niche and excelent SEO. It takes some time learning and building up the SEO but once you get number 1 in google for a good niche you make a lot of passive money.

tfw there are imbeciles out there working 40h a day in a dead end office job to earn as much as me

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Raving_Cute
Any SEO tips? Do you have your own site or do you use blogspot or similar?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Crazy_Nice
Use .com sites or kill yourself, it's literally like 150 bucks a year.

I'm not going indepth with SEO because it's literally a bunch of coding, improving articles, googling and trial and error.

SEO isn't hard though, just google and learn it yourself.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@King_Martha
Sounds good, I have a ton of time so I want to try stuff like this. Is the passive money from ads? Or affiliate stuff?

Evilember
Evilember

@Poker_Star
Both.

tfw moved out of my parents house last month because of the money I make.
tfw no longer loser NEET
tfw successful NEET

Feels Good Man, trying to start up a youtube business now but I think that market is waaaaaaay to filled up nowadays.

FastChef
FastChef

@Evilember
Fuck man I want to be a comfortable NEET. Did you use Adsense? How did you get involved with affiliating? Is the blog topic something you were already familiar with or was it just a good niche you found?

massdebater
massdebater

@FastChef
Bump + second these questions.
I can program and I wouldn't mind buying a domain and learning whatever web development stuff/deploying a blog template. But I just don't know anything about ads or affiliate marketing.. or how one would exactly capitalize on affiliate material related to their specific niche.

I feel like these are basic questions but I can't find any answers.

idontknow
idontknow

@massdebater
I always feel like the websites that tell this information are trying to sell me something.

askme
askme

Thank you for genially sharing your knowledge OP , this is what this board need , these are my question :
How many blog do you have , and how much time do you spend monitoring them and Facebook profiles ?
is there enough Spanish/Japaneses products that you can promote for your niche , or do you promote general amazon items ?
thats all , thanks

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Raving_Cute
do you think i could do the same outside of the US? bulgaria?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Fuzzy_Logic
It depends on what language do you wish to make your webpage/group. There are a lot of "free space" which you can fill in with good, specific information about your niche and earn top dollar for it. I can say that there are a lot of information in English, really, so I advise you to make some information in another language. There is plenty of free gaps to fill in.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Illusionz
bump

SniperGod
SniperGod

@BlogWobbles
Here in my garage...

girlDog
girlDog

@Illusionz
So many dumbfucks in this thread. These an anencephalic baboons don't know how "money is made" from traffic, yet they have the nerve to act snarky and condescending toward someone offering valuable information to them for free. I'm not talking about the genuinely curious ones, but the jealous NEETs that are insecure about their poorfag status and have to accuse you of somehow shilling despite the fact that you're not selling anything.

I've moved on from this type of business, but it's certainly a nice source of income provided your account doesn't get banned. I made a modest 2k/month on relatively high effort, but I wasn't efficient by any means. Thanks for the refreshing thread, it's a nice break from all the memecoin shilling, meme stock shilling and wagecunt talk.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@askme
I have a bunch of blogs set up, a lot of them don't make much money or nothing at all. You set up 5 blogs, one hits the gold vein the other miss. Creating and publishing a blog is super easy and cheap as fuck.

@Fuzzy_Logic
The richer the country the better, the bigger the country the better, the less content out there for the country the better, the more affiliates out there for the country and language the better. You could probably set up something like that in any country in the world but it's certainly easier/harder in some countries.

@girlDog
Hope your business goes well, 2k a month is a nice amount. I don't blame people for not knowing how to make money off traffic, I mean it's not super obvious and someone has to research this stuff before actually understanding it.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Here's a great video on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1gbLmnxM0Q&feature=youtu.be&t=851

Cool guy, you can watch more of him.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Illusionz
Serious question: how do you use bots to add Facebook friends? Can you set the bots to add only friends from the area your bsuiness resides? This would be so helpful to me Veeky Forums

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Illusionz
I do legitimate social media marketing on Facebook for my friend's used computer business. Is there a way to use these strategies to help him expand nationwide? I mean instead of using affiliate links to generate traffic.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Is there a biz skype group to talk about IM stuff for anything? Would appreciate if there was.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Not sure how many people are still monitoring this thread though decided after messing with stuff to actually make a skype group

I have pretty much no knowledge past occasionally reading about this for the past couple months though even if we don't' get any experienced people we can still learn from each others attempts.

https://join.skype.com/JbfsO1Xk7MUU

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Nojokur
Thank you for all the info user. Best of luck to you.

askme
askme

We could have a general for this kind of thing. Maybe write an OP with a bunch of information, different types of affiliate links, guides on coding, social media tricks, SEO etc. etc. in the thread we could share our success, give tips and ask questions.

"Affiliate, SEO and Social Media General" or something like that and of course create a cute chan for it.

Techpill
Techpill

How do I find a nietzsche?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@askme
Not sure if there would be enough posting to merit that, this thread is old but not that active. I could still see the use though, there is that skype group i just made but its pretty tiny. Could try making generals but I dont think they will be too active.

be sure to join the skype group!!!

FastChef
FastChef

@SniperWish
skype group sucks

whereismyname
whereismyname

@WebTool
That's how I got into it.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@SniperWish
Your insistence on a Skype group makes me suspicious. I'm not joining.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Spazyfool
@FastChef
so provide a better alternative and create something of value

we only have newish people now but we can atleast learn together so should be good for motivation

Lunatick
Lunatick

@cum2soon
2005 pickup was fucking whack.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Illusionz
/biz/

Methshot
Methshot

https://join.skype.com/JbfsO1Xk7MUU

Old skype group was messed up join this one for to share your experiences getting started with IM or help enlighten people new to it.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

https://join.skype.com/MHANg3Y4DQUn
Old skype group was messed up join this one for to share your experiences getting started with IM or help enlighten people new to it.

Evilember
Evilember

@Skullbone
How the fuck does she make that much?
protip: it's not just her

RumChicken
RumChicken

@SniperWish
Or just a simple "making money online" general but one that isn't focused around making 3 dollars a year through fiver.

Veeky Forums is a slow board anyways, I don't see a problem if a general gets little traffic.

TechHater
TechHater

@Illusionz
Leaving money on the table if you don't have a sign-up and thank you page.

Sign-up to email list is like printing money once have big list.

And can monetize the thank you page with ads bringing a couple more grand a week.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@TechHater
How can you make money with an Email list?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@RumChicken
This would be good. It sounds like making money online can be very interdisciplinary and so there should be plenty to discuss.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Playboyize
You send them emails to your product or affiliate links. Imagine a email list of 50,000 people into a fishing niche and you email them 20% off coupon to your shopify store...literally printing money by a simple push of button

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@5mileys
Just immerse yourself in Internet marketing. This shit used to confuse me too.

Just think of it this way, if you have an audience of 100k people, and they enjoy a "niche" such as baseball or model trains, you can market products to them for affiliate networks who will pay you a percent of sales you drive. And that's just one way to monetize.

Right now I'm creating a subscription based model where you get a captive audience and then I'll up sell them with a service that is low maintenance and infinitely scalable. That's another way.

Or you just drive traffic to a niche website and collect on ad revenue.

There's a ton of ways you can make money with this same strategy, it's how you monetize that really makes a difference.

Think about it this way, say you had a website and you promoted how easy it is to flip items on Craigslist. You could either fill that page with ads for money, or sell an ebook to interested parties. This shit is endless and rife with possibilities.

massdebater
massdebater

@kizzmybutt
So do you actually make anything and do you do what OP does?

Methshot
Methshot

@AwesomeTucker
I have a bunch of blogs set up, a lot of them don't make much money or nothing at all. You set up 5 blogs, one hits the gold vein the other miss. Creating and publishing a blog is super easy and cheap as fuck.

but what if you set up a blog with orignal content ? do you suggest that , i mean the whitehat style , post genuine content and maybe scale the FB page with some of the techniques you mentioned so you can generate traffic to the blog ?
i would appreciate your opinion OP !
if not since you program your own bot , is there any available bots online you suggest !

iluvmen
iluvmen

@massdebater
I don't make money doing this, I've just researched this heavily and understand that at the end of the day this is marketing. And marketing has been around since capatalism. The Internet has just made it possible to reach a wider audience and help drive commerce through highly targeted means.

The project I'm working on now is just something I've always wanted to do and decided to make some money while I do it. It's totally white hat since I'll be using my own name and face, and hoping to reach an audience through purely organic means.
Understanding IM had just helped me establish a strategy to cut through the noise and make sure I can actually captivate my target audience and possibly make a buck on the other end.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@askme
Affiliate, SEO, and Social Media General
/ASS/ General

Perfect.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Crazy_Nice
Yeah 40k if people continue to buy the same shit they already bought. Doubt it.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@iluvmen
i don't make money doing this
BUT I COULD IF I WANTED TO

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Fried_Sushi
IRC seems better, it's easier for people to join as anons if they have specific questions.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Evilember
Just follow trends and get caught up in YouTube drama. You'll be swimming in AdSense money.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Nojokur
Thank you OP. You've been wonderful for this whole thread and I'm excited to start.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@LuckyDusty
Fuck, that's a great idea. Thanks, user!

RumChicken
RumChicken

THE OFFICIAL SKYPE https://join.skype.com/oi5mnzhsC5WZ

TO DISCUSS WHITE/BLACKHAT SEO AND INTERNET MARKETING

GET IN HERE

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

/biz/thread/1410398#p1410398
/biz/thread/1410398#p1410398
/biz/thread/1410398#p1410398
/biz/thread/1410398#p1410398
/biz/thread/1410398#p1410398

GET IN HERE

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Fuzzy_Logic
Some faggots were spamming up my feed with American Auto Club MLM bullshit, so I started calling them out as scammers and facebook banned ME from posting for several hours. They must have reported me as harassing them or something. Fucking bullshit.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Evilember
No true, if you get hit a new flash zero day or don't have your shit updated things can get sketchy pretty fast. I remember one time malvertising on uberhumor or something auto-downloaded some kinda fake Java plugin. My computer still asked me if I wanted to let this program modify my computer and of course I said fuck no but the fact that it started downloading without me clicking "Yes, download" or whatever, was sketchy.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Nojokur
Is his book worth it?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Illusionz
I do this on twitter and I use reddittwitterbot.com
to automate it with some normie content

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@RavySnake
Never buy books from these types of people, they might give good basic advice on speeches (like he does) but books are always just 1 page of good content that you can find yourself on forums and 200 pages of useless filler that will waste your time.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@SomethingNew
Thanks man, I guess it is good to do some research and save money.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@hairygrape
leddit

Thanks for the link, seems like a good program, I dislike Twitter as a whole but I'll keep the bot in the back of my head, can't imagine that most popular subreddits aren't autoposted though.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Illusionz
Do the accounts shill the same set of offers? Or do you direct them to a blog/ecommerce site? (maybe both?)

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@TreeEater
fellow media buyer here. actually kind of nervous, you really posted a grail here. most people won't be able to understand your post but yeah its basically everyone's bread and butter right now

w8t4u
w8t4u

Is AMD a good choice for a niche? Serious question. Thanks in advance.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@TreeEater
AdPlexity Native
$250/month

jesus christ, does anyone know of a cheaper alternative?

5mileys
5mileys

@viagrandad

Was thinking the same, although this tool looks amazing.

Inmate
Inmate

@5mileys
it does seem like an excellent tool and i wanna get started with this, but i'm from bulgaria and $250/month is 1/3 of my salary currently so i'm not sure i'm ready to drop this much dosh on something i'm not sure i'll be able to make use of

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Illusionz
how do you get to shill it?

FastChef
FastChef

@PackManBrainlure
OP mentioned that he created bots that would add friends and then invite to his page where he would post the affiliate links.

Illusionz
Illusionz

I have been trying a legitimate where it's basically news headlines that tell the entire story on the page itself without taking you anywhere else to read it or fall for anything like clickbait.

No one cared though. I just like my information fast and upfront, not hidden behind a million ads or misleading titles.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Illusionz
Legitamte is hard to work with I guess. Why not go for tried and true methods so you can at least make some decent change?

whereismyname
whereismyname

Anyone have experience with instagram pages?

I was checking out the cats_of_instagram page, and they have 6.4 million followers, all for posting other peoples content. There were few and far between sponsored posts, but they must have gotten so much for each, they were for the Life of Pets movie and Purina.

viagrandad
viagrandad

I ma very skeptical, this seems like 1 in a million people actually make decent money

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Nojokur
Is the MOBE program he promotes in his videos worth it? It screams pyramid scheme to me.

farquit
farquit

@Skullbone
There is no easy way.Learning python is like a journey.You will have a hard time at first, but once you master it you do not even have to worry about this facebook stuff

Playboyize
Playboyize

@TreeEater
@Stark_Naked

3rd marketer here, yeah this is how it's done but it really isn't this easy. The biggest hurdle that is very, very difficult to get over unless someone directly hooks you up is the issue of getting fresh accounts/CCs. This is incredibly difficult.

Techpill
Techpill

@Playboyize
Wait, so is this method legal?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Carnalpleasure
I'd like to second this question. The free car deal seems too good to be true, even though you have to earn it through enough commissions. Also, what does MOBE even sell?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Techpill

Depends on how you handle acquiring payment sources/accounts really, but at the very least it breaks FB's TOS, which doesn't really matter, but yeah it can be illegal.

WebTool
WebTool

@WebTool

noice

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@girlDog
I've moved on from this type of business

What sort of business are you doing now? I'm genuinely interested in this, I have an eBay business myself which makes a full time living but I'm looking to transition into a new business in the next year or two

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@cum2soon
Wtf are you blogging about to get 200k views a day? Mine gets between 20-100 a day.

FastChef
FastChef

@TreeEater
Bump, pls answer.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Flameblow
I see, thanks.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@New_Cliche

source?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Illusionz

Hey lads, I'm doing a media campaign for a US based band that involves sending a creepy snapchat for the sake of viral marketing plan. Is there any scripts out there that sniff for snapchat names and banks them?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@cum2soon
I have a blog that gets 50k-200k views a day and that earns me a lot from ads etc.

In your experience, how many monthly visitors does a fan page with 10k likes get? Assuming their is a regular posting schedule with proper optimization.

Evilember
Evilember

@Illusionz
Great thread. If you can answer these quick questions it would be much appreciated.

1. Where do you purchase the Facebook accounts? Blackhatworld or somewhere else?
2. Do you know any working websites for SMS facebook verification?
3. How long does it typically take to farm 4000 friends?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@viagrandad
@5mileys

Advault.io has s $1 three day trial

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Evilember
3. How long does it typically take to farm 4000 friends?

@Illusionz
This is and important one for me OP

idontknow
idontknow

I have a facebook group with 100k likes. What do I do?

I made a couple posts 5 years ago, but nothing since then.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Lord_Tryzalot
I'm not very familiar with tax havens like Hong Kong. Do you pay no taxes on this at all?

Offshores have ended. Learn about automatic exchange of information (AEoI) from OECD. You will get raped hard and HK will publish your info to country of residence.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Evilember
1. Where do you purchase the Facebook accounts? Blackhatworld or somewhere else?

This. Where to buy Facebook accounts?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

dumb fucking grinder
learn how to trade, shill

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Methnerd
Damn. Is there no offshore option at all anymore?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Evil_kitten
It is an option if you use another fallback guy as a beneficiary. Go find one and whom you can actually trust.

He has potential to get raped hard, because all the info will be exchanged in 2017 form all member states (all countries pretty much except some 3rd world African country where you wouldn't want to hold money anyway) and then once the data is available to respective governments, why wouldn't they rape every non-tax payer and tax-avoider, eh?

I guess it can work if you acquire residency in UAE. But even then there is risk that you would be reported if you hold passport somewhere else.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@CouchChiller
Damn, I don't really want to fuck someone over that bad so that's out of the question.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@King_Martha
The biggest offshore banks in my country said they don't really have a solution right now for this and that we should wait and see how it goes and how the AEoI is implemented. They said only thing we can do right now is change beneficiaries. When banks don't really know what to do, I guess the only thing you can do is with good accounting make up expenses to avoid paying extra tax. But you can't avoid it completely anymore.

Techpill
Techpill

@Illusionz
where do get a facebook bot?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Bidwell
He's joking you retard

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Crazy_Nice
I was fascinated by this thread tonight but honestly, this. I can't relate to people engaging with Zuckerberg and generally shitting up the internet. Especially since a lot of people itt seem to already have a source of income and even savings. The whole thing smacks of illegitimacy and quite frankly shameful behavior at times. Whatever

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Peeps that are media buying on FB:

Do you run news feed ads or RHS? I managed to find a golden thread on Blackhat and the dude said he only ran news feed, which implied he made a business page which seems...excessive.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Spamalot
So your internet morals are getting in the way if what is potentially really good money?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Illusionz
Where do you get facebook bots from?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Stupidasole
He said he made them in Python. I'm guessing you can buy them from someone on blackhatworld though.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@eGremlin
blackhatworld
More like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2mRA03dWUI

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Ignoramus
There's probably a forum for that too somewhere if you're interested.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Illusionz
bump 4 interest

cum2soon
cum2soon

@TreeEater
@Flameblow

Where do you guys buy accounts?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

How do you find products to be an affiliate for which haven't already been SEO'd/advertised to death by millions of other people?

hairygrape
hairygrape

I have zero knowledge in computers

I have zero to none investment

Is there a way for me to make small buckarinos, 50-100 USD a month, just by sitting on my ass?

Also I need to congratulate you guys, from what I hear your noses have to be as long as your pockets are deep

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Sharpcharm
Fuck off you Faggot

massdebater
massdebater

@hairygrape
Is there a way for me to make small buckarinos, 50-100 USD a month, just by sitting on my ass?

Yeah of course man.

I have zero knowledge in computers

Oh wait never mind, no.

@cum2soon

I don't, but any good internet marketing forums will have users selling them. Be willing to spend ~$1,000 per account, which could be banned literally minutes after you acquire it if you login with the wrong IP or without using a VPN. Or when you go to submit ads and they bulk deny all of them and then ban your account. It's a very, very difficult thing to deal with.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Sharpcharm
inb4 someone calls the cyber police

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@massdebater
Well, I'm not completely clueless, but I never could get into programming

If there's something I need to learn, I could do it quite quickly

Any recommendations?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Ive got a tumblr with 10k followers in a very particular niche. What should my next step be to monetization?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Raving_Cute

Furry blog?

Affiliates for dragon dildos is the reasonable thing to do famfam

TechHater
TechHater

@TreeEater
They will get banned along with the credit cards attached to them
banned from what ? CPA programs ?

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