Guys who earn a decent amount here, let's 100k+ yearly.. Has it helped you with women at all...

Nope. I'm 30, making about 160k a year, with a nice flat in the Sydney CBD with views.

It's probably because im not that good looking, and there are MANY good looking guys out here in Australia.

It's easy to get a girl etc, if you flash your wealth (i dont feel wealthy to be honest), but you wont have a true relationship.

The sole inhibitor for me personally to getting girls is money, and the way that affects the way I take care of myself. I'm actually naturally confident and very attractive, save for the fact that I have bad teeth. If I had the money to fix that and had my own car, my own place, etc., there's no reason I wouldn't be out right now trying to strike up conversation. I just keep telling myself "this is temporary", as I save my money and learn as much as I can about starting my business. I'm going to make it because I have a good nest to rest in (free rent at my father's as well as using his extra vehicle), I've seen how it is to live poor and not take care of myself, and I have a burning desire to succeed, followed with a job that allows me the free time while I'm at work to further my education on just about anything I desire. Two years, I'm guesstimating, and I'll be much better off financially and in a position where I'm capable of actually doing something with my life.

Just sucks I hadn't really given a shit about anything until I was 25.

They shake my hand sometimes... Little do they know that I go months between instances of female touch.

You have to be in shape to get attractive women.

Women over 30 will flock to men that make 100k, but they just want a provider, they'll still cheat on you or plot to divorce rape you.

Every now and then I'll reel in a gold digger for a quick pump, then discard it afterwards. If I was looking for a real relationship though, it's definitely better to hide my wealth.

Is it the car? If so, what car do you drive?

My social media profile which has a high paying job listed.

No because I live in the Silicon Valley and everyone makes 100k+.

God damn kids.

Sad. Stuck in a sausagefest

Called Man Jose for a reason.. :(

Yes, I can now afford a better class of hooker.

How do you all businessman feel about the fact that the girl OP pic will settle for a guy who earns $15,000 yearly and drives a toyota. You could be h i t t i n g that right now.

"girl"

Reading some of these replies is outright cringeworthy. Money will not help you get girls whatsoever. Even a broke poorfag in rags could fuck models if he knew how. If you think accessories, nice clothing, expensive dates etc. Will help then you've completely misunderstood something along the way.

If you're a poorfag who blames a lack of money for his lack of pussy you will not improve with money. You will either become a well dressed and better groomed version of the same person you were, or you will end up an overcompensating douche everyone assumes must have a micropenis and no real friends.

Either way your best hope would be finding the plethora of golddigging whores who would like only your wallet. Escorts would probably be more efficient though.

As for the people saying it helps indirectly: being a poorfag is no excuse for dressing like shit, smelling like shit, not exercising or generally not taking care of yourself. If you blame money for that then fuck you pigs.

Confidence and personality is where it's at. Take care of yourself, get out there and actually practice with people. Not just women, as many people as you can. Go to bars and talk to everyone. Find out who they are, what motivates them, develop a good sense of humor. Learn to read people and how to entertain them, try to be a genuinely good person to everyone without being a doormat. Pussy will be yours.

Or just stay an awkward neet blaming his finances for his failures. Or his parents. Or society.

>T. Someone who's been there

>money doesn't help you get women even 1%

lmfao okay contrarion, you do you.

>If money makes me even 1% more likely to get pussy he is wrong!
Literally autistic, I bet you're a real hit with the ladies though.

being surrounded by shallow women always being distracted by / chasing the next new biggest shiniest thing isn't nearly as fun as you think it is . its a bit like a world renown nobel physicist professor getting an extremely high paying job teaching blind retarded children.

yea they pay is great.

but u know the kids don't have a clue, there not there for you or your lessons, there just kinda "there" ... and really are they even "there"?.

poorfag here. From the impression I got so far from this thread it seems that being rich doesnt really help with women that much, despite what I was assuming. Would it be more difficult keeping a woman in a relationship because you have so many shekels or do they seem more loyal?

Every post in this thread is just laughable.

Women won't go after you for 100k. Women don't care about money, and even if they did, WAKE UP 100K IS NOTHING. You can't flaunt your wealth with 100k because you don't have any wealth, you're just a regular person in everyone else's eyes. Women want a man with status, which is similar but not equal to money. When you tell a women you're a doctor, she doesn't think "ooooh they make an avg of 250,000 I bet he will buy me stuff!!!!". No. They think "Wow, a doctor, he must be smart and care about people, wait until my mom hears I'm dating a doctor".

Making 120k a year spending all your free time sitting at your house playing video games is not attracting any girls your way, my friend.

You can't impress girls with money, trust me it just doesn't work, they don't fucking have any concept of money, you can only impress girls with the social status your money allows you. You really need to be on the "Millionaire" level for your money to really affect your status. Once you drop the M word on girls, they will immediately know without a doubt that you aren't some random chump they can find anywhere. They will like you for how you made your money, not that you have money. They will like you because you're a fucking business owner with power and influence on the world.

depends on how much you are both willing to settle/compromise.

that's still extremely shallow, superficial and insecure.

you're not really saying anything different just because you replaced cash with some other personal asset.

I just gotta get my teefers fixed, which requires money, and have the free time to get in shape. I have the confidence now, I just have no desire to get laid until I get my other shit taken care of. Once I feel closer to my ideal self, albeit just a little, I know I can get laid. It's not money itself that I need, it's what I can buy with said money. I already have the confidence - I just don't wish to pursue it yet, my attention is elsewhere.

>Would it be more difficult to keep a woman in a relationship because you have so many shekels or would she be more loyal?
Neither. But with ltr the rules change. You need a minimum amount of shekels so she has no reason to complain, but give her too many and she becomes a spoiled whiny cunt. It all depends on the basis of your relationship. If she got together with you because of your shekels then don't expect a happy ending. If she loves you regardless of your shekels (or loves you at all, for that matter) expect the shekels not to matter too much.

Build yourself along with your wallet.

Your post does not sound like one of someone who is truly confident. It seems you've made your confidence contingent on quite a few things while claiming it already exists, as if it's some abstract feature. Granted; not being too excited about a bunch of one night stands with whores is understandable. But at least entertaining casual fwb or platonic relationships with women will do you good. Just trust me on that, it opens doors.

Not that it really matters, the question of the thread was if money helps you get women. The answer is no, but not having money can hinder you a little. Being homeless and broke might be an obstacle, but then again I just moved in with 2 girls (one of whom I was banging) when that happened to me.

>That feel when 2 girls crawl in a bed together and ask if you're joining them

i had sex with 4 women at the same and im a sea anemone! i dont even have a penis.

it can be done, you just have to have confidence.
women need to be lead , and told what they really want.

I didn't expect you to believe me, that's just a side effect of being on Veeky Forums though. Most people on here are unironically neckbeards or neets who cannot fathom these things actually happening outside of porn. Irl you would think I'm bragging like a dick.

Just wanted you to know it's entirely possible and not even that uncommon. It's 90% personality, seriously. I know guys who are by no means attractive, successful and completely broke working as dishwashers who pull this stuff off.

I have no trouble meeting women but I want to become as wealthy as possible before marriage so that I can support a large family on my own and my wife can focus on taking care of the household and raising our children. On that note I'd like to have at least five or six children and give them a decent start in life.

Anyone else?

yes, but gender roles exchanged

I didn't expect you to believe me, that's just a side effect of being on Veeky Forums though. Most people on here are unironically neckbeards or neets who cannot fathom these things actually happening outside of porn. Irl you would think I'm bragging like a dick.
Just wanted you to know it's entirely possible and not even that uncommon. It's 90% personality, seriously. I know guys who are by no means attractive, successful and completely broke working as dishwashers who pull this stuff off.

Just make sure to hide your power level in the early days

My plan as well, currently dating russian qt for those purposes. Godspeed, user.

>You won't get hotter chicks by being rich, but you'll have the option of getting

>the ones that are either rich themselves
In other words women who aren't gold diggers

>or who care a lot about money and appearing rich.
in other words women who ARE gold diggers.

Without being contrarian, how is this significantly different from before becoming wealthy?

It's hurt
if I was a poorfag douche who could spend all his free time in the gym and bars and had nothing to lose I could fuck around all I wanted

Not even a little

Tell me about your wife? Is she the clingy annoying type, who has daddy issues? Please don't tell me you have kids.

Also, I'm not trolling to make you feel bad, but you should really try to improve yourself and your self confidence before shacking up. I fear for you and your well-being.

Absolutely.

It's kind of like how if you take steroids and sit on your ass and watch tv, nothings gonna happen. But if you're an athlete who trains hard and you take steroids, you're gonna get a lot better.

If you already have some semblance of game, big income is gonna improve it. But if you don't have any game, the money won't help that much.

>Money will not help you get girls whatsoever
>Well, maybe a little bit, but since you're contradicting me, you're an autist.

>All statements made should be 100% accurate to their literal meaning
>This statement is only 99% correct, maybe if I correct him mockingly he will see the error of his ways
>H-he c-called me an a-a-autist, I better defend myself!
I haven't laughed this hard in days, not even joking. T-thanks, s-sperg.

IKTFB

When I used to wear a suit for my last job, women would look at me different and be more interested. When I just wear jeans and a tshirt it's an obvious attention difference.

Lame.

Becoming rich completely changed my life and relationships w/women. Pic related, I just took it 10 min ago

did it turn u alpha and help you reproduce with a lot of young women so that your superior finance jeans can one day dominate the earths landscape?

Yes call me genghis 4khan, eventually the whole world will be descended from me

Its more about sucess=money, when you are sucessfull in your field you are naturally more confident which in turn makes it easier to get laid after you come to the revelation that confidence is all you need to fuck pretty much any woman

When I added my income to my okcupid profile, I started getting a lot more replies. They were all wastes of my time that were interested in my money. All idiots.

If you have a gainful career (for me, Software Engineer) then just put that and the smart ones will know that means you make good money and the idiots will just pass on you thinking you're a nerd.

I'm sure Dan bilzerian made one of these posts

Little beta manlet spending daddy's money to appear like women actually want to be around him

prepare to be divorce raped

she will fuck Jamal while you are at work to support her 4 kids

>the idiots will just pass on you thinking you're a nerd.

Jesus christ that these sort of adult women exist

trips dont lie

You guys need a serious mindset change. It's scary because I used to be like a majority of you. Girls really aren't scary or even intimidating once you figure them out. But it's much easier to project negative emotions on them to soften the blow when they reject you.

How hard is to pay patronage to a escort you like? She gets money to pretend to care, you get that fuzzy feeling inside from having female company. You both know it's fake and will end as soon as the money drys up but it better than going to couples counseling and actually thinking it going to work.

At 30 guys become more valuable than girls. Even for former robots.

Guys at 30:
>the jocks have either gotten a dui or have fallen into the baby cage
>acne has gone
>probably making a good living

Girls at 30:
>sees the wall coming
>probably wagecucking in an office so getting approached rarely if ever
>majored in marketing psychology marine science so shit money

Its pretty great because I think 30 is a woman's peak attractiveness. Pic related.

dem mental gymnastics

This is dead on. They pick up on your general togetherness that money affords. A decent wardrobe, education, clean place, interesting friends and hobbies.

I am a Polish traditional Catholic and will be looking for a wife in Polish traditional Catholic circles to minimise that threat.

fuck bitches get money. women will drain you mentally physically and financially.
thread.

I doubt your source and don't think it's representative but your trips prove you right.

24 years old here. On track to report 100k+ in income this year between investments and income. I also squat 3.5 pl8. I still am a virgin and I still want to kill myself everyday.

Maybe once I earn 200k and squat 4.5 pl8 ill get a gf

Money usually only matters to them when they're running low on eggs and want a beta provider to pay for them.

When they're young, hot and fertile they just want big dicks, six pack abs and square jaws. No money needed, not that it would hurt to have it.

They gave the hot, no holes barred, non-committal fucking for free when they were young.

They want the men with money to pay for the begrudging, committed, obligatory fucking of marriage.

Don't be that guy. It's better to fuck 10/10 prostitutes than be that guy.

Women are the only asset in which the asking price rises as the value falls.

>confidence and personality are where it's at

>people actually believe this

>100K IS NOTHING

It's over twice the average income for Americans. If you make 100k a year you're in the top 20%. Not a "random chump" by any means.

That is not nothing.

>Women want a man with status, which is similar but not equal to money

Money is a status differentiator. It is one of the foremost means of distinguishing and discerning status.

> When you tell a women [sic] you're a doctor, she doesn't think "ooooh they make an avg of 250,000 I bet he will buy me stuff!!!!"

Uh yeah, they kind of do. But it's more like "he has resources with which he can support me and the kids we make".

There's nothing wrong with that necessarily, it makes perfect sense; resources are needed for babies, no? But we have to be honest about this. We have to be honest about the "male productive resources in exchange for female RE-productive resources" dynamic if we're going to make the best of it.

Which is why it's wrong of you to lie the way you do here:

>They think "Wow, a doctor, he must be smart and care about people, wait until my mom hears I'm dating a doctor".

Please cut the bullshit, my man. Women admit that their foremost concern when looking for a mate is your fucking career, not how much you help people.

>Making 120k a year spending all your free time sitting at your house playing video games is not attracting any girls your way, my friend.

Tell it to the guys on Youtube who make bank doing exactly fucking that. With their qt girlfriends.

A sword and sorcery loving, video game playing, anime watching nerd is a loser....until he's rich and famous for being a sword and sorcery loving, video game playing, anime watching nerd.

Then he becomes...what was it? Oh yeah..."smart and likes helping and entertaining people". Because attraction is all about morality. Or whatever bullshit you console yourself with.

>It's kind of like how if you take steroids and sit on your ass and watch tv, nothings gonna happen

Nnnnnope.

>Shalender Bhasin studies effects of Testosterone on 4 groups of men

>Group 1: No exercise, placebo

>2. No exercise, 600 mg Testosterone Enanthate weekly

>3. Resistance exercise 3 times/week, placebo

>4. Resistance exercise 3 times/week, 600 mg Test E weekly

>the men who did not work out, but were given 600 mg of test, gained 3.2 kg of muscle mass

>the men who trained hard on the placebo gained 2.0 kg of muscle

The roided guys who sat on their asses gained over one third more muscle than the guys who stayed natural but lifted regularly.

You can't /thread yourself, newfag

Who is she

>she

oh my friend..

Ha co ty kurwa gadac

You guys ever go outside? I discovered Veeky Forums late, at 24 years old. I was busy fucking bitches and partying beforehand.

I'm 25; working hard to earn sheckels and dollar billz. Not to get womanz, but to have freedom of choices.

I have dated, and been with quite some woman over the years, 2 ltrs etc. Trust me; money =/= woman.

If you want woman, you need to generate emotional reactions with her. Money potentially allows the possibility of situations that could excite emotions with her, but so could a great deal of situations not requiring money.

Thus a noob broke-ass who creates emotional waves in woman = god.

A Millionaire who creates no feelings = cuck.

Get your money for yourself, but work on creating emotional feelings, Don't rely on Money to do that work for you. If so; then extra money is a massive extra bonus from her PoV, in Addition to Emotional stimulation. But money =/= emotional stimulation.

>doing ANYTHING for a woman without her first
stringently validating herself for you

enjoy being a beta orbiter dancing clown the rest of your life.

My nigga, we are going to create dynasties. I have the same exact plan.

Beaaaaast. I expect to be in your exact situation in about 3-5 years.

>My nigga

Get your life together before you find a girlfriend
Don't like your weight? Fix it
Don't like your net worth? Change it
Hate yourself as a person? Become a better person

Before anyone gets depressed about not dating ask yourself, would you want to date you?

>would you want to date you

Fuck yeah.

If the other "me" were a female version of me? Why not? We'd be perfect together.

But she probably would not want me, because the fact is that the vast majority of women only have eyes upwards on the ladder of income and attractiveness when they're looking for a man. They mate upwards in the dominance hierarchy, across it if they really have to, and down almost never. And they do it because they are the female and are born with value, that value being that they're sitting on the future of the species.

Face it: yeah a lot of men are losers, but many women would be classified as losers as well if it weren't for their vagina and their eggs.

Stop telling men they need to "upgrade" themselves from Basic to 2.0 just to have a shot with Basic Her.

I'm really tired of the idea that we need to become worthy for a group of people who don't even know what that means because they don't have to worry about it in the first place.

This r9k trap faggot lives in washington

you're mostly right but money fucking help.

Why is it always something wrong with YOU if you don't date

is it that hard to believe that you might just not want to live your life attached to some obese midwestern cow throughout your life?

My nigga

Made 102,000 last year, hasn't helped one bit, but then again, 100k a year is lower middle class here sooo........

Money doesn't help. Working out does.

I am an attractive but socially retarded male. I have been poor at points and extremely wealthy twice (self employment/entrepreneurship).

desu it has never made a direct influence with getting chicks. it can help via self confidence/self-esteem but that effect does not last. i have felt equally empty with myself when my bank account is super duper full.

but i think it does help if ur not socially retarded or depressed. if ur a regular person it should M++ and the formula is LMS=V so there u go.

>Excersing 3 times a week
>training hard
choose 1

lol gr8 study m8 appreciate the citation.

3.2kg of muscle over what time period? what did group 4 do? how many participants in the study? starting weight, height, liver enzymes, base hormones, so many other stats for participants in each group?

I saw another study where Group 1 was given test while refraining from exercise and Group 2 was given test while training 5x/week for 2 hours. Group 2 gained 1800% compared to Group 1.

>so autistic he missed the whole premise of my post
>nitpicking about steroids efficacy in the absence of exercise
>1996

I've already got a fwb set up. A few hour drive though and I just usually end up jerkin' it instead because I spend too much time getting my startup together.

And I should clarify, I'm confident in my ability to pick up women when I'm ready to - even now I pretty much have women asking to fuck after chatting for ten minutes. I'm not trying to brag in any sense, but until I feel ready to go out and tap into that market, I'm okay just squeezing one out while I focus on setting myself up to have the money to do what I want (travel the world, apply my time to learning new hobbies, etc.)
And I have a lot of clarity even after a few beers, my buddies are usually wide-eyed when I turn down a 9 that wants to trade numbers. More the fact that if it's easily obtained, I immediately lose interest. Maybe it's more the challenge of getting it I enjoy than actually being a manwhore.

I've had lots of women interested in my money.

I don't want women that are interested in my money.

So no. Lucky for me I married when I was broke, so I know my wife doesn't care about my money.

otherwise I'd always wonder....
Money doesn't help you get any women you'd want.

You said you can do roids, sit on your ass and make no gains.

You're wrong.

But sucking my cock, boy. Daddy taught you well :^)

In order of importance more or less.

>confidence
>face aesthetics
>height
>job title
>body aesthetics
>income
>dick size

Work on the top ones you can control first.

*keep sucking my cock

lol

>Then he becomes...what was it? Oh yeah..."smart and likes helping and entertaining people". Because attraction is all about morality. Or whatever bullshit you console yourself with.

10/10

Most of what you said doesn't cost much and is affordable to almost everyone.

>you'd probably have a nicer watch
Doesn't improve how women perceive you. They generally don't know or don't care that much. And nice watches (Omega, Cartier) can be had used for less than $1,000.

>so you'd be working toward/already have the body you desire
Costs absolutely nothing. Since when do you need to be rich to make 100 push-ups every morning?

>you'd have the funds to buy premium brands
Doesn't make you more attractive if you know how to dress, and can be bought at reasonable prices if you know where to shop (Yoox...). It is very easy to be terribly dressed even with a $7,000 suit.

>diet would most likely be healthier,
You don't need to earn 100k to eat vegetables.

>you'd smell better
A bottle of French perfume is $60.

Seriously, you sound like a whiney dreamer that wouldn't stop being a fat slob even with a billion dollars.

>Please cut the bullshit, my man. Women admit that their foremost concern when looking for a mate is your fucking career, not how much you help people.

This is what turned me off on women desu. Seriously.

>I'll love you forever honey! As long as you keep pulling money in!