How the fuck do we solve the manchild-problem?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

How the fuck do we solve the manchild-problem?

I mean, so many white males are just dropping out of life because they're pathetic vermin. Instead of making a family, and most importantly, children, they just rot in front of their computers every single day, watching anime or playing stupid video games.

I personally know at least 3 of these subhumans, and they all have certain things in common: gave up and became neets, some went to university, earn a decent amount of money, but either waste the money on trivial horseshite or save it for no apparent reason, or waste on on manchildren collections (comics, katanas, anime shit), have absolutely no interest in politics, history, anything else but their shitty manchild hobbies, politically passive, don't give a fuck about what's happening to their country, absolutely NO productive hobby, 95% of free time is spent in front of their computer watching degenerate anime.

So Veeky Forums how do we solve the man child problem?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Trump will make America GREAT again.

And start World War 3.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Fried_Sushi

Are you gay or something? Wouldn't more manchilds mean more women for yourself?

Or let me guess, you are virgin living in a basement of your parents too?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Fried_Sushi
you can't, it's the natural byproduct of technological progress in entertainment. It's only more prevalent in whites because they have more disposable income (on average). Just wait until full immersive VR comes along and people begin to drop out of society completely.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Fried_Sushi
/pol/ pls go

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Fried_Sushi
This isn't /pol/ OP

Manchildren arent a problem if they have money I can take

Did you know they now have an entire product noche thats just gaming furniture?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I think everyone has a problem in this country OP. It's easy to look at it and find an excuse (Obama cut me off, there are no jobs, im black, company fucked me over) and while some of them can be true, people will never overcome if they keep looking for an excuse. Instead people should look for a way to improve themselves and overcome any challenge and I know this is some cliche mumbo jumbo cuck shit but it's true.

Part of the reason I think is that we can blame ourselves or our parents who made it seem so easy when it's not. You don't go though 4 years of university and make 100k. It's not going to happen. The reality is that you'll sit in some shitter 40k/year entry job for multiple years before you move yourself up. We created too many fantasies and dreams that weren't really there. "moving up the ladder", "going to college to find yourself", "you can do anything you want", even..."the american dream", for some of these people, that reality hit them way too hard and they don't want to think it's true. We still can blame them for not overcoming this problem, but then again it would of helped if the gen x/boomer generations didn't create this make believe world that was once true for them.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Fried_Sushi

Destroy Veeky Forums and any other chan.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Fried_Sushi
solve
I understand that it's frustrating, but think rationally for a moment: What the fuck are a bunch of unemployed neets going to do to "solve" multi-billion dollar globalized markets and social structures that produce these behaviors? We the individual citizens do not have any say whatsoever in the affairs of corporations or the governments they sponsor.

Honestly, the best thing you can do is live a productive life for yourself and do what you can to uplift the people immediately around you. Nature always takes its course. Either the neets will be driven to change by their internal stress response, or they will simply die off. It is scary to consider, but thinking rationally about what influence people can actually exert is an important step on accepting reality.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@PackManBrainlure
we know you can do everything we did, you just have to figure out what it was first.

who makes money?
business owners and managers.
that hasn't changed.
start with that.
not cut out for that? It's fine, trades pay very nicely too.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Fried_Sushi
/trash/
or
/pol/

WebTool
WebTool

im one of these people but i recently reaslised years ago i got 1k in some bluechip shares and they gone up about 50%

how do i start day trading tho

RumChicken
RumChicken

@WebTool
You don't, because you have better options. Day trading is a fucking meme. The overwhelming majority of traders cannot even beat the market average; in plain English, unless you are an investment banker, the wisest option is to invest in low-cost mutual funds such as the S&P 500, which is a safe way to make good returns at near-zero risk. Once you have more money, you can talk to a financial planner and plan a strategy for maximizing your income.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Emberfire
Of course, yet even the most stable jobs/industries/fields aren't safe forever. Who knows, maybe in 10 years that healthcare bubble will finally pop and put thousands out of work, or perhaps automation will kill a lot of stable careers and maybe even the trades. It's hard to teach someone whos 17 years old that will be taking in debt to take up a stable career could possibly not exist in a decade.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@RumChicken
i know someone without an education that day traded from 2k to 12k in a couple weeks or somethjing

like incredibly uneducated i was honemstly very surprised when i heard what had hahppened

dopes region make a difference? i am in australia

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@StonedTime
yeah, you're dealing with a much more volatile market than the boomers had, but gen x sort of grew up with that.

previous generations came to understand several strategies that pay off. Just because one sector is booming doesn't mean you should drop what you're doing and try to get in on it. Seek employment in things that people will always need, no matter what the job market is doing. Most of the boomers made their money late in life off ordinary stuff like buying real estate or running mundane businesses that provide boring necessities. It's not sexy and it doesn't need to be. You just have to find something other people need and then own it and sell it to them.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Fried_Sushi
take away the uneven courts/justice system
drop housing prices by 50% across the board
increase jobs in every sector by 300%

what feminists are suggesting is like going fishing without bait and screaming at the fish for not just biting the rusty hook

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@ZeroReborn
I'm not an expert, but that sounds like a very atypical example, and I would caution you not to gamble your money on stocks under any circumstances. If you really want to become an investor, I suggest picking up your phone and calling a financial advisor who invests professionally. Rather than a hassle, this is an extremely intelligent decision that will have a significantly positive impact on your life. Just be vigilant and don't sign shit until you understand exactly what the fees are.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Fried_Sushi
Manly father's. Illigitamacy rates are astonishingly high plus the degradation of male characteristics (loyalty, sacrifice, courage, and actual unapologetic opinions). Fewer men to lead the new generation. Just my opinion though.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@CodeBuns
hmm.. something to consider but i am still strongly considering the day trading. it honestly doesn't seem so hard. look up company announcements google around and a bit check out everything to do with it... maybe its just easier in my head. either way i guess i should look into a financial advisor at least

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@AwesomeTucker
Yeah I definitely agree. It can be volatile, gen x did in some ways deal with that as well, particularly with the tech boom and busts and the dotcom bubble in the 90s yet I don't know if at the time many people realized what has been happening. It wasn't until after the 2007-2008 recession people were understanding how boom and bust our economy works by.

But I don't think any of the new generations need to be taught how easy or perfect everything is, there's a catch to everything, nothing is free.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I am 37 and never have been married and have no kids. I will never entrap myself into that kind of life. I am free to be a kid like I was when I was a teenager in my secret life. I am an adult at work but that is it.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Stark_Naked
You sound pretty (((free))) there guy.

girlDog
girlDog

@Sir_Gallonhead
The human population will hit 11 billion in the next hundred years. What's the point of adding to that? Imo having children is selfish. It's a net negative to the survival of everyone.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Fried_Sushi
Fuk u, leave me and my waifu alone fgt.
Your just jealous I get free chicken tendies.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@girlDog
Good goy.

takes2long
takes2long

@Fried_Sushi

people are dropping out of society
let's call them vermin and subhuman in a thread asking why and how we can stop it

You people are a walking parody

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Fried_Sushi

Give them a job with a living wage

massdebater
massdebater

Wow how horrible of people to defeat their programming and realize how stupid having children in this day and age is.

TreeEater
TreeEater

End entitlements and safety net. Make people work for things again.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@massdebater
Exactly.

No children.
No marriage.
No debt.
No car.
No pets.
No buying status.

Make money online.

You're now a free man.

FastChef
FastChef

NEETs will always be the upper-class. Enjoy being a wage slave for eternity

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

work
getting forestry degree
going to go into military when I'm done
get out of military
go work innawoods/work on masters
finish masters -> apply for PH.D.
live innawoods, write music, do research for rest of my life.
never reproduce ;_;

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Fried_Sushi
posts friedman
calls others manchildren
you are part of the problem

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Harmless_Venom
Can't wait. 2025 here I come.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

i was an ordinary guy. i became NEET because i couldn't find a good job. now i have a working class job and can't realistically afford to participate in society.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Fried_Sushi
upset about man-children rotting away in front of computers
expresses this thought from a computer, on Veeky Forums
is a man-child
k

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Fried_Sushi
posts picture of Friedman
does not consider giving people an incentive to do what you want them to

Quit using his picture if you aren't going to bother applying his logic.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

i've given a lot of though to this problem and i find that studying japan's NEETs helps understand american NEETs.

i think the issue with men is that they expect a lot of things from a young age and continue to be disappointed as they age. the worst time this happens is during the teen years when they find out how much college costs and how much college MIGHT help you earn.

FastChef
FastChef

@Fried_Sushi

Stop sucking all the fun out of life.

Booteefool
Booteefool

mfw faggots are falling for this /pol/ pasta
Really makes you think

idontknow
idontknow

@BunnyJinx
under rated opinion in a sea of trash and bitches, if it helps you user I agree with you and I evaluate the men around me based in these values , I prefer to be a lonely wolf than be sourrounded by a bunch of garbage.

likme
likme

@Harmless_Venom
That will be the day. Society is boring and trashy. I will gladly leave you judgmental, nasty, uninteresting sheeple behind. No offense, but most people just plain old suck.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@PackManBrainlure
Another good opinion, based on experience and facts, well done user, save yourself first from the sea of bitches that is sorrounding you, then profit from them selling them temporary comfort.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Fried_Sushi
It seems like you are angry that young men have the ability to choose to spend their money how they please. As long as they aren't contributing to single parent households then what's the harm? They are taking themselves out of the gene pool voluntarily, but that doesn't mean there aren't men just like them choosing to have families.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Fried_Sushi

current year
making children

WOW.

Inmate
Inmate

@Fried_Sushi
Nobody's used a nuclear weapon in 70 years
GDP is increasing
Population is increasing

Why do you give 3 halves of a fuck? Do you want NEETs to stop North Korea? Do you want them to develop green energy? Why do you care what anybody else is doing?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Fried_Sushi
Maybe when the media stops treating lower class white males like vermin without feelings and branding republicans/right wing people as hicks and idiots.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

depopulate the planet making labour more valuable and thus easier to get a well paying job?

I'm just talking out of my ass here, I'd like someone to explain if this would/wouldn't work.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@LuckyDusty
This is the most likely the actual solution. Mass culling of the herd. People toughen up quick. Scary thought when you have children,but I have faith they can survive.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Methnerd
Lower class white males are vermin. Every chance in the world to succeed and you pissed it away. You have no excuses and no one to blame but yourself.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Lord_Tryzalot
making children
Oh, I disagree. They're the best.
You can teach them to hate the things you hate, and they practically raise themselves.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Booteefool
teach them to hate things you hate
That's the best part!

girlDog
girlDog

@Supergrass
Great! How do we accomplish it?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@King_Martha
If you can give them concrete examples, the process moves even faster.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@girlDog
We already are. Welcome to the bread and circuses. Don't forget to lube up for the barbarian invasion.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Fried_Sushi
So Veeky Forums how do we solve the man child problem?
We can SLIGHTLY by fixing the economy, but the reality is we're not going to fix the issue in its entirety.

Most of the NEETs or near-NEETs I know do what they do for three reasons:
(1) Laziness/gluttony ("Video games are more fun than studying"),
(2) Economic issues ("I can't get any better job than working at Starbucks"), and
(3) Lack of goals ("I just wanna chill for the rest of my life")

You can fix (2) by fixing the economy, but (1) isn't gonna be fixed any time soon because we're developing more distractions, not less. A substantial portion of our economy literally relies on people binge-watching Netflix, playing video games, eating shitty food, etc. (3) isn't really gonna be fixed either, at least with the guys I know - you can't make someone want to be successful if their highest goal in life involves fuckin' WoW.

There's gonna be a very real shift in the population in the next few decades - poor immigrants are popping out kids like mad, rich educated people are doing so with less frequency, and there's a whole demographic withdrawing from society. We're very likely to be soon burdened with the medical costs of a bunch of aging assholes who ruined the economy, the lifestyle costs of a bunch of low-education immigrants who rely heavily on public assistance, etc.

5mileys
5mileys

@Booteefool
test

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Fried_Sushi
high iq + computer age = manchild. pc offers you everything, so comfy.

likme
likme

what is with all these off topic threads lately??

/pol/

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@SomethingNew
I don't believe he's talking about NEETs. He's speaking about people who go to University, get a decent well-paying job, then just..... work and don't do anything with their money.

They live a very minimal lifestyle and just invest all their money, with their entertainment being mainly anime, comics, video games, ect and the occasional trip to a foreign country. These people are extremely frugal; they don't splurge on food, clothes, new phones, new computers, cars, ect.

Think of people who make 80k-140k+, but still wear shitty clothes, drive crappy cars, and generally doesn't give a single fuck. They make their own meals, live alone or with a parent, don't drink, smoke, do drugs, ect.

They just make money and then spend most of their free time on reclusive hobbies. This is pretty common among Asian males, esp. those that were raised by a single mother. I think the same is for white dudes as well, but they tend not to move out and live alone instead of with their parents.

They don't plan to get married, have children, or spend their money wantonly.

Skullbone
Skullbone

The only way to legit biologically attract girls is by being good looking.

That girl would get wet for male models working mcdonalds, but a billionaire invisible guy looks wise would be nothing but a cuck that buys her shit.

That's life, the most important asset cannot be bought: genetics. This is why studying/working/making money/being responsible/having a family/etc is a cope.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Skullbone
Can you post the "Life is a scam" pic too?
The one with the guy in a dress leaning on a Ferrari.

WebTool
WebTool

@takes2long
Visiting /pol/ more than once results in irreversible and immeasurable brain damage.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@SomethingNew
Are you the guy from /fa/? If so then you're based.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Skullbone
lift and keep 8-10% bodyfat
get plastic surgery
have non-autistic personality by joining a debate team/theater group

The only problem people ever have is height. Modern science and social environments can fix everything else.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@DeathDog
Yep- thanks! Always been lurking Veeky Forums, now just bothering to post.

Booteefool
Booteefool

The mouse utopia told us our fate. We did nothing to change it. It's comical how with each passing year humanity runs more and more parallel to the results of that experiment.

girlDog
girlDog

@SniperWish
A thread like this wouldn't last long on /trash/. There would be a few posts calling op a fag then it would get bumped off the board in 8 hours or so to make room for furry porn, hunger games, and /co/ rejects.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@happy_sad
Looks like a trip to Milwaukee is in order.

likme
likme

@Carnalpleasure
I find OP argument silly.

Who the fuck is he to define "society" and "participating" within society?

I am doing the same, I read history, studied International Relations. Studying economics and accounting now, and working an entry job that pays for my tuition.

I don't plan on having kids nor getting married atm, and just want to live a simple life, travel the world, and retire early and collect a great number of experiences.
I don't understand why "having kids" or trying to affect change into "the system" is the only way to "participate in society".

Society is kinda screwed, and through individualisation it is not strange that people tend to become more individualistic and pursue their own thoughts and ideas about happiness.

What do you care how others live their lives. based on an example of 3 LOL.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Evil_kitten
I guess that would work, but I'm sure there are closer alternatives for me.
Like Barstow.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Fried_Sushi

Why do you think it is a problem in the first place? This world can burn for all we care.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Fried_Sushi
Maybe God doesn't want manchildren to raise children. Then again I am sure that God allows sickle cell for the same reason in black Americans...

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Who gives a fuck about what their hobbies are if they have the income to afford it?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@whereismyname
Black manlet

Yeah nah fugged from the start if your'e talking about a top tier life. Coziness is still attainable, though.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Carnalpleasure
Sounds pretty good to me.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

some went to university, earn a decent amount of money, but [...] save it for no apparent reason
this is me to a t
i dont spend a dime of an engineer's salary because it makes me warm inside knowing i don't have to spend my life paying mortgage and providing for a fat cow of a wife and her disgusting children

Illusionz
Illusionz

@JunkTop
Also a black manlet, you should still lift.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Carnalpleasure
I see your point. I honestly assumed the "some went to university" thing was more about examples and less limiting.

What you're describing is definitely a demographic I've seen, and I'm sure it describes a lot of Veeky Forums users. Not sure if I'd worry about it quite as much as the NEETs, though - they're likely just a zero sum burden on society, helping it chug along while barely consuming along the way.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Fried_Sushi
You are confusing cause and effect. You are as intelligent as blaming ski caps for cold weather.

People aren't stupid, even if you failitists in your toliet think tanks try hard to make us believe that.

Let's say that you have two vending machines. A sells cheap stuff. Pay one dollar, get something for one dollar. B sells expensive stuff. So in theory you should be able to pay 10 dollars and get something for 10 dollars. But B isn't consistent. Some people doesn't get their 10 dollars worth. And some people get stuff far more worth than 10 dollars.

Now, is it strange that those who get stiffed by B will only buy things from A?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Fried_Sushi
We can't. It's TEOTWAWKI, and I don't feel fine.

girlDog
girlDog

@Stupidasole
we tell kids that stuff for the same reasons we tell them about Santa Clause. Making a living has never been easy for most people, it probably never will be.

It's also possible people are trying to show what matters. Making money is important, but you only do it so you can do the really important stuff. So whether you have a lot of money or a little, the time you spend getting it should be minimal. Your life isn't about money. Or as parents we hope not anyways. Because by our age you've learned how to easily make money AND that it doesn't matter.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@whereismyname

Face plastic surgery is about as painful as height surgery, no? Both have very long healing times.

@Carnalpleasure
Why is it a problem to you? Consumption is pointless. If someone's economy depends on peons buying shit they don't need, so what?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Soft_member
TEOTWAWKI
Oh, but that's true for every age...

Commercial horse carriages, anyone?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Carnalpleasure

And are most of those things bad for what reason?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Nojokur
consumerist anathema
no kids = no honeymoon, marriage, mortgage, electronic distractions, tuition payments, car loans, disneyworld vacations meanwhile this highly compensated job is being occupied by someone who doesn't live in fear of losing it at any moment

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