Convince me this isn't the easiest and laziest way to make money

Skullbone
Skullbone

use stolen credit cards to make 5 purchases a day across amazon/ebay/whatever sites @ $500 per item
use freight forwarding services to ship the items
make ~$2000 a day for a few hours of work

convince me this isn't the easiest and laziest way to make money.

All urls found in this thread:
https://xcoins.io/how-it-works
Emberfire
Emberfire

@Skullbone
it sureis the niggerest

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Skullbone
Grow 100 lbs of weed. 3 months. wholesale for $3,000/lb. $300,000 for 90 days. $3333/day with somehow less risk and equal or slightly more work.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Firespawn

having the space and time and money to grow 100 lbs of weed
hydroponics system, maintenance money, water filtration system, lighting system, electric bill cost
being a drug dealer

yeah how the fuck is that easier or lazier you fuckwad?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Skullbone
That is in fact the best way to make money, don't ship them to your house though. Maybe ship directly to buyers from the forwarding service?

Maybe hire workers on cl to collect the packages then ship to you

@Firespawn
That requires connections, lights, space and everything else required to run a grow-op. Selling 100lbs isnt easy either

Whereas what OP is suggesting requires nothing at all.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@RumChicken
easier because there's less of a chance of going to jail. jail=difficult in my opinion. also it's easier for me to get all the necessary supplies than to get stolen credit cards and become truly anonymous online.
inb4 muh vpn nobody knows it's me

lazier because it takes less than a few hours of work every day.

that's how.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@VisualMaster
connections, lights, space, hydro set up=all easier for me to come by and less risky than stolen cards. it's not difficult to sell 100 lbs. I have 9 people that buy from me and every 3 months they want 10 lbs. One guy disappeared 2 years ago, probly got locked up who knows. But apart from that it's consistent demand.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@JunkTop
Wtf idiot

Drug trafficking has mandatory sentancing minimums and it's way easier to get caught and there's much more proof.

Yeah you only need hundreds of marijuana seeds, thousands of dollars on electricity, a ridiculous hydroponic setup, room to store however many plants that is. Need to find people to sell weed in bulk who aren't police. Wtf???

@CodeBuns
Stolen cards go for pennies on the internet, you're a retard who watched breaking bad. What op is saying is way more feasible and would actually work

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

How do I do this and not get caught?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@JunkTop
muh vpn

Except that's how it is fucking retard

Crack neighbor's wifi and use their internet + vpn to do this. Oh and buy a throwaway laptop you only use for this. Dumb fucking cuck everyone on this board is a retard

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Stupidasole
it sounds like your mind is made up. good luck using stolen credit cards, I'm sure there's no law enforecment agency that is monitoring that.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Nude_Bikergirl
I don't wish to do this but im explaining to you why it's fully feasible

You seem to think law enforcement has some sort of superpowers when there's entire forums of people doing this shit, making huge money and very rarely do any get arrested.

There's so many ways to protect yourself
throwaway laptop
vpn
public/cracked wifi network
encrypted hard drives
Proxies
Hiring mules on craigslist
Etc

Nothing's going to happen stop being a fuckin pussy

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Firespawn
i wish this was possible, but no one in my country smokes weed, since it became legal in 2001 no one smokes that shit

I guess kids don't find it coll and edgy when it's legal.

fuck I wish I could make €500 a month

Spamalot
Spamalot

This same thread seems to show up here every day lately. I'm convinced that it's nothing but a cheap plea for attention, and OP hasn't ever done any of this shit.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Booteefool
ok bro like I said, good luck.

remind me again why you don't want to do it yourself, but are advocating so strongly for it?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Skullbone
Anti-fraud fingerprinting, resi proxies, fencing the goods, 3ds bypass, avs bypass, change billing phone
No, @Firespawn
is better. Sell on darknet.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Some guy was doing that and managed to get my dads card. He went balls deep and paid a lot of money to get that guy found. Sure enough he gets found.
every dog has his day
Turns out the dude had stolen like 90k that year. Dude's getting buttpumped in prison erryday for the next 15-20 years for fraud and all sorts of charges. His VPNs and proxies didn't help at all lol.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@RumChicken
How did they find him? Care to elaborate?

15-20 years for cc fraud
no one ever gets that, give me proof of a single person getting sentenced over 5 years for carding.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@AwesomeTucker
See
@Deadlyinx

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Skullbone

I hope you rot in hell you miserable fuck

I hope your concience eats at you at night and i wish you would do society a favor kill yourself, in all seriousness you pathetic piece of dog shit nigger

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@PurpleCharger
That doesn't answer anything, I don't even know what any of that is suppose to mean. Explain?

@BunnyJinx
Why are you so mad? The people get their money returned, it's only the banks that lose and they rob the people every day anyways

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@StrangeWizard

Because im not a retard that thinks stealing is right becuase banks are evil... Grow up faggot

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@StrangeWizard
I don't even know what any of that is suppose to mean.
Bravo!

Anti-fraud fingerprinting: your browser gets profiled, using i.e. torbrowser will flag
Residential proxy: proxy with clean IP
Fencing: selling stolen items for cash
3ds: 3-d secure (vbv,msc), 2fa for card not present transaction
Avs: address verification system
Change billing phone: they call it sometimes
Also, any reshipping company will have flagged address and give your address to police
Just become a wageslave, carding is only profitable for Ivan and Vlad anyway.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Skullbone
But where do you ship them too, have to find a good place

Supergrass
Supergrass

@RumChicken
for the next 15-20 years

lol ok, CC fraud generally receives, at most, a 5-8 year sentence. Minimum security federal prisons ain't all that bad bruh -- I have a friend in there right now actually. No fences, or walls surrounding the exterior of the prison, and the inmates are permitted to walk around inside/outside the facility throughout the day. Only non-violent offenders get sent to these prisons, unless you've already served so much time at a higher security prison and have been deesculated.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Skullbone
DELETE DESS!!1

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Stupidasole
Anti-fraud fingerprinting: your browser gets profiled, using i.e. torbrowser will flag
Throwaway laptop, you can setup your browser to not leak that info. Anyways they have nothing to link it to
Residential proxy: proxy with clean IP
Yes... there's fresh proxies. You use a proxy located in the area the cc is from
Fencing: selling stolen items for cash
3ds: 3-d secure (vbv,msc), 2fa for card not present transaction
what? Like cvv2? Wtf this mean
Avs: address verification system
lol no
Change billing phone: they call it sometimes
I think it's rare
Also, any reshipping company will have flagged address and give your address to police
That's why you ship it to mules you hired on CL to then ship to an abandoned house you collect from. - rotate 3-5 abandoned houses

I may or may not have done this a few times and it went through without a hitch.

Easiest money of my life

@New_Cliche
Go cry

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@BunnyJinx
who said i do this?
im just wondering if theres an eazier and lazier way to make money

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Nude_Bikergirl
what? Like cvv2? Wtf this mean
lol no
I think it's rare
I may or may not have done this a few times and it went through without a hitch.
No you haven't, fucking underage faggot

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Skullbone
no one telling him that 5 purchases à $500 isnt $2000 ?
wtf guys

and can someone give ideas to this:

stolen credit card
buy BC with it
transfer to other BC account
profit?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@MPmaster
What the fuck is 3-d secure I've never heard of this in my life

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Raving_Cute
neighbor's might not be the best idea

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Spamalot
VBV/MSC

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@King_Martha
obviously that's obvious and extremely preventative measures are in place

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Why isn't buying Bitcoins with stolen ccs the best idea ever yet?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@VisualMaster
after some thought I think the problem lies with the reaquiring of the money in cold hard cash without leaving traces... except u become the new local bitcoin dealer

i mean... you cooooould of course get a fake ID, and some really good makeup-artist for withdrawing bigger amounts... i guess

but it could also be possible, that they wouldn't trace it, if you leech small amounts from various ccs to various acocouts to some Bc-wallets and make some chaotic transactions and once in a while u take your fake identity and BAAAAM, withdraw a not to big amount (like in the transactions to and from the wallet) but psssshhht

went a little frenzy there

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Firespawn
100 lbs of weed
wholesale for $3,000/lb
You're not going to get $300,000 for 100lbs. You'd be lucky to get 150k selling that much at once.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Skullbone
freight forwarding services won't give invesitgators your real address

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Skullbone
That's why you sell it in smaller amounts.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@TurtleCat
bulk sell but don't sell in bulk

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Emberfire
idk maybe they'll get tired of asking after 2

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Booteefool

Funny you mention anyone can do it, even morons. My wife had her CC info stolen like 5 months back and the retards tried to buy a $74 part for their car at some shop but didnt work because we froze the acct. We only knew about it because we just happened to look and saw a 5 dollar charge for bojangles in a part of town we dont go...anyways the morons stayed at the shop for 15 minutes trying to use other cards and ways to pay for the part. We called the shop and the manager held them there until the cops came..

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Skullbone
Cashing out will always be a problem.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Firespawn
Where the fuck are you at where people are paying 3k for a pound?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

be me in cop shop in waiting room
dude walks in says his cc has been stolen and the person has used to pay for parking and he's got the car details
officer looks up at him and says
nothing we can do about that ring your bank and sort it with them
guy starts moaning asking why not
cop just say it's not their problem
walks out mumbling under his breath

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@lostmypassword

that is meth-head tier lol

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Nude_Bikergirl
Honestly OP wouldn't even have to use CL mules he could really just:

Get throwaway laptop + usb
Use vpn & neighbors/public wifi at a library,mcdonalds or university etc.
Buy stolen paypal account(s)
Create new ebay account w/fake information
Create new amazon account & use free prime membership
Dropship from amazon to ebay, at a noticeably but still believably lower price than your competitors
use paypal acct. to buy bitcoins
Put bitcoins through washer
go on polo and sell all the btc
buy eth with the money from the btc sale
use coinbase or kraken and deposit the eth. into your account and cash it out
declare it as capital gains or personal income tax
or
sell bitcoins for cash on local bitcoins
or
Buy bitcoin vending machines and put them around your area

Congrats Veeky Forums NEETs if you're about to get kicked out of your parents house, this is what you do.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Need_TLC
Dropship from amazon to ebay,

What this mean?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Sir_Gallonhead
ship directly from a seller on amazon to a buyer who wishes to buy that product on ebay???

Create new ebay account w/fake information
You'll need fresh socks proxy for that

Instead how about using the CC to make a paypal account of your own (instead of stealing pp), and then use THAT to make ebay account? Way more logical.

use paypal acct. to buy bitcoins
Literally no one will ever let you buy bitcoins with paypal. Ever

farquit
farquit

@Soft_member
meant for @Need_TLC

massdebater
massdebater

@King_Martha
Stolen CC
Buy Walmart/Amazon/Visa Giftcards
Sell in exchange for btc.
Wash btc
Sell on exchange for other crypto like eth
deposit to acct.

It's harder than what I suggested a post up though, because you have competition between the ~hundred or so people that are doing this right now, and the exchange rate will kind of suck. Since you wouldn't be able to prove that the CC were legit (unless you used someone else's ID/Faked an ID) your rates will be around $.5 -.6 per bitcoin.

likme
likme

@massdebater
uhmmm

You could buy Walmart giftcards and then use them in a store to buy shit with them. If you don't do it too much you can always claim you didn't know they were stolen, since you bought them online from a legit-looking site.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@massdebater
@likme
How/where do you anonymously buy stolen CC?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Soft_member
Instead how about using the CC to make a paypal account of your own (instead of stealing pp), and then use THAT to make ebay account? Way more logical.

You could use the CC to make a paypal account & use a stolen paypal account at the same time. The reason why you wouldn't use the same CC is imo you create a paper trail, and you limit yourself. When the CC is no longer usable, you still would want to have your ebay account for as long as possible, to lower seller fees, build feedback, etc. You want your ebay account to look legit. The amazon account is more disposable, easier to get a new one.

Literally no one will let you use paypal to buy bitcoin

What about these guys user? https://xcoins.io/how-it-works I haven't tried them, but it seems to me that it might work. I'm not sure what kind of identification you need, however.
It also looks like the lenders have to be paypal certified, so they don't charge you back.

FastChef
FastChef

@hairygrape
On various forums and automated shops

Shops are nice because you just deposit btc or whatever then buy yourself and it's automated and there's an autochecker to see if they're still good

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Skullbone
does anyone know if it is possible to generate BIN numbers to trick the system into thinking they payment was made?
I remember some years ago some fag showed me some items he had gotten for free.
I need a i7.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Raving_Cute
This but instead of neighbours, just drive around suburbs with said laptop till you find a decent connection to crack or perhaps it might be unlocked to begin with. Pedos do the same shit with downloading child porn.

Evilember
Evilember

What's the easiest way not to get caught with stolen credit cards?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@w8t4u
Wat?

Bin numbers are just bank identification numbers, first 6 digits of a card to tell which bank/area/branch it originated from

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Skullbone
/identitytheft/ the thread.

Very sad, biz. Just assume you'll be caught if you try scamming people. It's a huge issue for companies and they're all on it.

Do scammers get lucky sometimes, sure. Do they go to jail for years for identity theft, also yes (not as common, but it happens). You want a few pesos, this is one of the more stupid ideas.

5mileys
5mileys

@Evil_kitten
This is probably one of the better ways to make money illegally, to be honest.

The risk/reward/profit is just quite good. Unless you go hard $100,000+ it's not risky.

You can easily pay off your college loans with this shit then go to being a legal, good citizen.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@BunnyJinx
u mad?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@5mileys
nobody stops when they get the taste, nobody. heard it somewhere.-

Nojokur
Nojokur

@RumChicken
paying off student loans with multiple credit cards across the country

Yeah, completely inconspicuous

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Supergrass
It's $25/g in /biz/land, at least for my friends (i'm not a degenerate)
So that's $11325/lb.
Obviously when you buy a lot it's cheaper but still

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Raving_Cute
vpns usually keep track of the users and will cooperate with the law in case of you committing a crime

Snarelure
Snarelure

@lostmypassword
Cops are unable to help you. Basically criminals have to be so fucking stupid that they get caught right in the act.
wife's car gets sideswiped, damage all down entire side of car
numbnuts who hit her lost his passenger-side mirror off of his car.
mirror is red, red paint all scraped down side of wife's car
we will have to pay the deductible on insurance because hit and run
I channel Liam Neeson and start hunting motherfuckers.
hypotheisize that some asshat lives a few blocks from here and was driving home drunk
ride my bike around one after noon, looking at every car in every driveway and apartment block
find red car missing passenger side mirror, freshly washed. Mirror is a match.
go to cop shop
wait in line
get to desk, tell her that I'd like to submit evidence regarding a hit and run file that I reported a few days ago.
she looks at me struggling not to bust out laughing
smirking and twisting in her swivel chair
says "hey Bill come get a load of this"
makes me repeat my whole story to Bill
Bill doesn't even try to not laugh
original cunt finally feels sorry for me or something because she asks "what is it that you expect us to do with this mirror and information?"
I say, "put it into evidence, tag it, pass it on to the investigator"
she laughs and says, "your case hasn't been assigned an investigator yet. The soonest someone is going to look at that is 6 months, if ever."
she says "if the hit and run driver gets his car fixed and uses his insurance, it will flag in the system and he might get caught that way."
I leave the mirror on the front desk and walk away
hear them drop it in the trash can before I'm even out the door
serve and protect

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Nojokur
Yeah I clearly meant off your loans directly with them... wtf?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Skullbone
Fuck you. FUCK YOU.

Someone hacked my ebay and bought 10 ~$400 smartphones using my account and it was absolute HELL reversing the charges.

Fuck you, you goddamn degenerate waste of oxygen.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Firespawn
this will cost 100000 min to start including warehouse space/land equipment and electric.
you are looking at around 5 months including start up time and setup

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@StonedTime
Tbh it was your fault. You don't get hacked just like the that. You either had a shitty password or a keylogger. You deserve it.
Install Gentoo.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Need_TLC
Is this bait? Pls clap

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Raving_Cute
HEY FUCK U U FUCKING FAGGOT

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@RumChicken
Lol, good to hear a faggot thief litterally getting fucked.

Your dad is a good man.

Follow his path.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@SomethingNew
I'm sure people won't mind you sitting in a white van in front of peoples houses

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@RumChicken
My dad works at nintento too

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Snarelure
Not lawyering up, charging cop with destruction of evidence.
Not fucking with person who hit you.
Not disabling their vehicle.

git gud

Playboyize
Playboyize

@w8t4u
This, and all of this.

Go back and lob a molotov in their window.

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