Say that I managed to raise a few million for a hipster feminist game on...

TreeEater
TreeEater

Say that I managed to raise a few million for a hipster feminist game on Kickstarter.
How could I make the money vanish without a trace?

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SniperWish
SniperWish

Send it to me. Ill double it.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@TreeEater
Convert to bitcoin and tumble it.
You'll probably need to collect the money through some kind of shell corporation, though.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@RavySnake
How does one tumble bitcoin?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@DeathDog
I don't know the details, since I'm not a thief or a drug dealer.
Google can probably help, though. There are services that tumble for you in exchange for 1-3%.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@TreeEater

Actually, you don't need to be shady. Just use the money to start an LLC, give yourself a salary with the funds. Pretend to work on the game. Hell, you could even make shit in your free time.

Then after you ran out of money paying yourself a salary, explain that the Kickstarter has failed due to internal problems. Kickstarters are not legally bound to create a finished product.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@GoogleCat

Oh and if they do sue, they will go after the LLC which is legally separate than the salary you paid yourself. So yeah...

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@GoogleCat
They're legally bound to make a good faith effort.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

You pretend to work on the game and never actually release the game
Voila

whereismyname
whereismyname

To be honest actually it still feels like degenerate stealing even if it's taking from people I hate to fund development in Botswana.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@New_Cliche

How much money are we talking about? I mean you could install Unity and make some shitty screen caps every month and claim you are making progress.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Illusionz
A noname developer with a mediocre trailer for a somewhat generic game can rake in tens of thousands.

I've got pretty decent 3D art experience and know how to make very appealing game ideas.
Additionally, I could generate massive controversy (getting huge publicity and ending up only collecting money from people I definitely hate) by adding a feature like the game being intended for only female players, listing reasons why male players are unacceptable.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Read up on The Arkh Project.
Riley has been stealing people's money for like 4 years now.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Fried_Sushi
Spoonfeed plz
Usually 5-10 minutes of researching can be saved by 2 minutes of writing.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Raving_Cute
She's been through Ike 4 projects already, all under different pseudonyms.
She gets money, hires a couple people, fires them, shows a tiny bit of progress, says OH NOES WE NEED HELP, rinse and repeat.
It's like Star Citizen except more obviously a scam.
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/The_Arkh_Project

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Boy_vs_Girl
Still doesn't seems as glorious as:
make trailer for game which is intended to be a haven for women, requiring players to prove somehow that they are female with either a photograph of ID or a picture of them
trailer shows off a bunch of cool environments, and some character modelling in Blender
introduce some extra features such as "dual skeleton modelling" which will allow people to customise their characters to extreme detail
incredibly generous reward tiers, the game will be $50 but you can get it for $20 if you back
massive outcries at the first game which males aren't allowed to play, causing huge exposure in a matter of days
massively popular too as it will be the only place on the internet that females will be safe from males
to add to the controversy and get a big boost to donations, have "developing a system to allow trannies" as a reward tier
as soon as the money is secured somehow, release an anti-feminist video which denounces all the backers and guilts them about backing such a thing, and says that kickstarter will refund the backers
kickstarter is like holy-fuck-we-can't-do-anything and everyone's expecting the refund from them
It'd be glorious.
I just need to know how I can do this safely.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@hairygrape
reward tier
I meant milestone.

Techpill
Techpill

@hairygrape
Ah yeah, I just meant it's really easy to fleece idiots.
Just make sure you're well-hidden.

Methshot
Methshot

Have the money go into a 501c3 dedicated to feminism.

Wire it offshore.

Delay the final product until people forget that they paid for it.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Methshot
It's all very easy to say "money goes into a (obscure jargon) and wire it" but it's a very technically involved process that is pointless to explain in anything but full detail.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@TreeEater
correct me if im wront but isnt one of the big "problems" with kickstarter that there is no gaurentee that anything you back will actually come to fruitation and theres nothing they can do about it?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Methshot
this works too
It's what Anita Sarkeesian is doing. She has pretty much canceled Tropes vs Women even though she received enormously more money than she asked for and all she needed to make was 12 shitty YouTube videos.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Emberburn
That's the solution of a simple thief.
I want to be a pirate and make them know they've been plundered.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@DeathDog
He's talking out of his ass. You cannot take dirty money and buy a shitload of Bitcoin with it in any practical manner that doesn't involve a divide-and-conquer scheme, like paying people to sell them for IRL cash via LocalBitcoins, but that opens all kinds of vulnerabilities. You'll have to get the dirty money in some spendable form without identifying yourself and turn it into cash. All of this is intentionally very difficult, because what you are asking to do is very illegal. Turning this money into BTC is not feasible as you cannot buy $10k (or even $1k) of BTC without identifying yourself, unless you buy it with cash incrementally through LBTC, in which case your bitcoins are just as anonymous as your cash was...

TL;DR it's traceable until cash, and you cannot provide any links your identity in the process of cashing it out, and this is (very close to) impossible to do. People sell information on how to do this all the time on darknet markets. It's illegal and hard as fuck so it's valuable info.

FastChef
FastChef

@RumChicken
So, I guess it isn't as simple as cash out with a casino unlike what people say?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@FastChef
I'm not familiar with the process of Kickstarter's funds release.If I were them, I would require proof of identity before you are even allowed to post. Does anyone know jack shit about how Kickstarter pays you?

askme
askme

@Nude_Bikergirl
8 hours later
Nope.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@TreeEater
/vg/catalog#s=agdg
Just pretend to make game for a very comfy wage

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@lostmypassword
No.

Methnerd
Methnerd

How about you don't fucking do this? Why spoil a good thing mate? You could ruin it for everyone else who actually have good ideas that could benefit more people (e.g. social enterprises).

girlDog
girlDog

@Methnerd
tripfag
Why do tripfags always say the worst things?
I'm not ruining anything for anyone except raining on the parade of misandrics.
And I plan to invest in Africa, which with the same money would benefit a hundred times more people than a shitty social enterprise could, and I could come out at the end of it with at least the same amount of money if I did it right.

takes2long
takes2long

@Emberfire
godspeed you wonderful bastard

Inmate
Inmate

@takes2long
godspeed
without knowing how to get away with this
Can't do shit, cap'n

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@TreeEater
Pretend that the game really costed a few millions.
Shamelessly lie with "le content production" and "paying professionals"

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Methshot
Like starbound?

Playboyize
Playboyize

Hire a dev team composed entirely of ethnic minorities, women and transgenders.

When the game is inevitably a steaming pile of shit, you are safe from criticism as you've given jobs and opportunities to underprivileged groups, and the devs are immune from criticism because of their minority status.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@haveahappyday
Starbounds ok tho

RavySnake
RavySnake

@RumChicken
I think this person needs a straw (poor schmuck or homless person) who will withdraw the funds and convert them for a kickback. Another way is for OP to put on the appearance of a business and create shell vendors that OP owns. OP pays the shell vendors who then pass off a portion of the payment to actual vendors.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@TreeEater
You are delusional if you think you are able to pull off that sum with such a lame KS scam at this point.

Getting 10k off KS is hard even if you have a legit game.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Snarelure
unoriginal games which provide nothing that other games don't can't get funding
Colour me surprised.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Fuzzy_Logic
And the LLC has no assets other than a couple of computers, a rented office, and a fancy chair?

@Booteefool
Have you considered swallowing your pride and just spinning this hipster feminist fanbase thing into more money by way of releasing a viable final product after protracted (and expensive) development, and then making ANOTHER kickstarter for ANOTHER game?

You can steal from someone once, but you can milk them forever.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@haveahappyday
Eactly!

It released, I already tired of it YEARS ago, and don't remember if I paid for it or if someone else bought it for me.
Or how much.

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