Are we approaching a post-capitalism era? How can they get away with this?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Are we approaching a post-capitalism era? How can they get away with this?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Spazyfool
spend $160 on Pods
lose Pods
spend $320 on Pods
lose Pods
spend $480 on Pods

brilliant

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

post capitalism

Not yet user, we're reaching peak capitalism right now, it'll be a slow painful fall towards participatory capitalism and eventually a post capitalist world but all will be fixed once we reach the post-scarcity anarchist world.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Spazyfool
This is fucking bullshit

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

No I wouldn't say we are.

What makes you say that?

How can they get away with this?
With what? Setting a price at whatever they want? Why shouldn't they be able to in a free market?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

invent a product (wireless ear buds)
They can set it at whatever price they want. I won't buy them until this product proves itself a few years down the line. Sounds like an alright idea but you're gonna lose these things

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Spazyfool

This is the quintessential of capitalism

If anything Apple is the best existing example of capitalism. It literally does all the positive and negative things that capitalism is capable of doing.

5mileys
5mileys

@Evil_kitten
They didn't invent wireless earbuds, they just added a bunch of unnecessary, battery-draining shit to them.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Evil_kitten
invent

wireless ear buds have been a thing since like 2009 or even before. They have never become popular because:

a) they are expensive
b) easy to lose if you use them while moving
c) wired ear buds have better sound quality at the same price point

Bidwell
Bidwell

@SomethingNew

To add my own question to this

What exactly is wrong with these?

Beats and all those other shitty wireless brands are more expensive than these and I see those everyday at the gym.

I honestly expected an Apple brand product like this to be more expensive. It pretty much falls into the middle price range of wireless earbuds.

massdebater
massdebater

@5mileys
@cum2soon
So what's the problem

Why can't a company set its prices at whatever it wants

iluvmen
iluvmen

@cum2soon
wired buds have the added bonus of not draining your battery in 20 minutes

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Bidwell
It's literally an antenna & chip stitched onto their Earpods they sell for $30 and spend under $5 producing.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@massdebater
In the immortal words of The Dude, "You're not wrong, you're just an asshole"

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Poker_Star
What? What is assholish about setting a price you want? I don't get it

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Poker_Star
Noone forces you to buy them
And even if they had a monopoly on earbuds then capitalism urges you (yes you!) to set up a company that sells them cheaper

A fool and his money are soon parted
Idiots will always find a way to burn teir cash on useless shit

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Poker_Star
Nobody is forcing you to buy it lol

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Methnerd
Because the new iphone apparently doesn't have an audio jack.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@kizzmybutt

It's literally the same phone from last year with a price increase. It's the consumer's own fault for falling for this.

The nice thing about capitalism is that you have the choice not to purchase it.

Apple products are only purchased by nu-males, females, and homosexuals, and no one in this demographic is known for their intelligent purchasing decisions.

I'm still using my 2014 android phone and it still works perfectly and I don't plan to upgrade it till ~2020.

Only turbo poors need a new phone, which removes features, every year, just to text and use Facebook.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@massdebater
Oh there's absolutely no problem with that at all. In fact although I don't own any Apple products I would be proud if I could ever have a business that can pull off the kind of shit Apple does. It's really admirable from a business point of view.

As a consumer I don't care since like I said, I don't buy Apple products and I don't think I ever will. I do feel sorry for the fools who are so brainwashed that they actually feel like they need an iPhone, a Mac, and an iPad.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Require an aux port in phone.
iPhone no longer has aux port.
Thousands of other smartphones still have an aux port.

Its pretty simple. If lack of an aux port is a deal breaker to you, just buy a different phone. Capitalism gives you that choice.

If the market demands an aux port, Apple will have to cave to market demands and add the aux port back in. They'll just chalk it up as a bad business decision.

If the wireless ear buds turn out to work very well, the market will accept it and people will generally be better off (you'll still have audiophiles wanting an aux port, but they'll most likely get their own niche devices that support aux, because there will be a market.)

The customer is always right, and people will vote with their wallet. Nobody is forcing you to buy Apple products.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Carnalpleasure
Then don't buy it
and/or buy a galaxy s whaterver number they are on

RumChicken
RumChicken

I'll prolly just pair the phone with my beets.

wireless base model is about the same price anyways.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@RumChicken
he has beats

What a fucking faggot

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Sharpcharm
It's literally the same phone from last year with a price increase

no it isn't lol

stop talking out of your ass

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

ITT

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Spazyfool
Apple gets rid of headphone jack
Yet market for headphone jack still exists
Producers continue to produce old style jack or perhaps modernized version of one
People buy in their preferred market
Producers notice there is a market for both
Producers (besides Apple) now offer both options
The only people butthurt about this are "muh Mac" fanboy faggots.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@ZeroReborn

Wow, they removed the jack and gave it 1 GB more of ram

Totes a different phone guys

gibe $700 monies

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@massdebater
I don't think it's wrong.
I just think it's stupid. You'd have to be a dumbass to pay $160 for shitty headphones.

@kizzmybutt
They aren't just regular earbuds, they have
infrared sensors to detect when they are in your ear
accelerometers so you can tap them while they are inside your ear to activate siri
microphones so you can talk to siri hands-free like a bluetooth dickhead
All of this kills the battery life.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Spazyfool
Are we approaching a post-capitalism era?
no

How can they get away with this?
too many retards buying their shit.

King_Martha
King_Martha

They know it won't sell a lot, so they're hoping to make a big profit on little sales. It's going to fail dramatically.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@RumChicken
my beats

holy shit, get out of here you fucking hipster

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@massdebater

There's no problem it's just an observation. If a profitable copany sets prices that high for technology that doesn't have a real value (using "real value" loosly here you're going to have to follow along) anywhere near the value that they are pricing the item; and consumers still buy that product en-masse then we're looking at something beyond capitalism.

Whether it is strictly "post-capitalism" or not; i have no idea. Look at the definition of capitlism and look at what at how trends and ad campaigns are inflating the price of technology. Not just on a small scale mind you because that would be normal in capitalism, but a large scale. That is not exactly the model of capitalism if a unit price doesn't reflect it's true cost.

I realize "real price" and "true cost" might sound ambigious but it isn't. It's the price something takes to produce and a markup that is sufficient to continue producing it with a profit margin high enough to keep you going but still keep competitors.

Apple is a strange example because it's just has one of the most succesful ad campaigns in history. I'd put it right up there with coca cola.

Spamalot
Spamalot

most people in this thread fail to grasp what capitalism is lol i love this board you are all so fucking dumb

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Raving_Cute
its called price in-elasticity you economic illiterates

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Spazyfool
Veblen goods are very much capitalism

farquit
farquit

hate to break it to you guys, but this is just how much decent wireless pods currently cost.

it's true of any brand that's in the market space at this moment

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Spazyfool

I thought the product was pretty damned brilliant.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Raving_Cute
participatory capitalism
what?

WebTool
WebTool

@TreeEater
This is so naive. You know there are limitations on entering an industry that are in place both organically as well as artificially. Especially without the advantage of innovation, pure price undercutting is near impossible for a new firm because not only does it need to get the operational funding, but there are often regulations that need to be complied with. That means additional consulting and permits. Otherwise people would be opening multi-million dollar firms every day.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@BinaryMan
kek

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Spazyfool
Consumerism. Their market is rich people who'll happily pay that much for iphone-exclusive headphones, and the poor people emulating them.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Raving_Cute
you mean post scarcity technocratic world?

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