Is it possible to be successful at a company if you don't drink their kool-aid?

Snarelure
Snarelure

Is it possible to be successful at a company if you don't drink their kool-aid?

Evilember
Evilember

@Snarelure

You at least have to do a passable job faking it. Or be extrodinary at what you do. Which one do you think people do?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Snarelure
yeah, critics, gadflies and whistleblowers can have their place in management.

they're probably not going to want you leading any teams though.

a lot of big companies also have forgotten positions where you don't have to interact with people or toe the company line.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Evilember

I had a buddy, did 128% of full year plan. He hustled fucking hard. Company trotted him out infront of all the other reps constantly. He had a nervous break down and refused ALL company based attention. He avoided work functions to the point that he quit one day from all the harassment.

Being good didn't protect his job. Sucking shit from management did. Lots of shitty reps sucked shit and got higher wages, better territories ect. My buddy? He got paid about 18K less than comparable and worse reps.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Company trotted him out infront of all the other reps constantly. He had a nervous break down and refused ALL company based attention.

What does this mean?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@CouchChiller
@ZeroReborn
sorry, that was vague, did they trot him out in a positive or negative light?

FastChef
FastChef

@CouchChiller

Take your trip off faggot. Nobody cares who you are. If anyone cared they would go to reddit.

Being social is undeniably part of most jobs. It's a basic function. If he would have functioned at normal social capacity and did his job exceptionally he would still have a job. What you're describing doesn't refute my summation of typical business practice.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@eGremlin

They did it in a positive way. Awards, recognition ect. But he felt they dragged him out to flog other reps to be better.

He would get mentioned during kickoffs, sales meetings, monthly sales things ect. He hated the attention and he would go crazy over this. He went to management and HR and requested he did not get that attention. He refused to go for after work drinks and such. He got harassed and insulted constantly over this. Unfortunately he is a bit different sexual orientation wise. As such he got attacked for that too.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@PurpleCharger
he is a bit different sexual orientation wise
I'm kinda afraid to ask what this means on Veeky Forums where being a fursuit-wearing lesbian gimp in a man's body and diapers passes for normal.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@FastChef

How about you fuck your own face. Honestly, he caught shit for being socially awkward. He was one of the best performers branch wise. Honestly he was listed in the best reps in the region.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Stupidasole

He claimed he was polyamorous. He also claimed that he was pansexual to an extent. He was very vocal about this and was quick to call anybody out on homophobic/misogynistic comments.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Illusionz

What do you know a tripfag with issues. We're talking about business, not how you feel bad for your gay friend. You say "honestly" too much for an anonymous image forum, was he your lover?

Start a blog or go to reddit please.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Nude_Bikergirl

Congratulations you've contributed nothing and distracted from the thread to focus on how insecure you are. Are you happy?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Nude_Bikergirl

I mean that with sincerity by the way. What's wrong bro, why do you feel the need to trip. Is someone not giving you enough attention at home. You can talk about it here, we're all anonymous. Well you are partially at least, maybe we can work it out

polite sage

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Sir_Gallonhead

Like in general? Not really. However I stated a valid point. First hand I witnessed a coworker NOT drink the kool-aid, while doing an excellent job. Yet instead of him being accommodated, management worked towards getting rid of him.

farquit
farquit

@King_Martha

This is what is called an anecdote and it doesn't show fundemental knowledge of inner business workings. Not because your observation is invalid (even though it most likely is, but i'm still trying to give you credit here), but because it is one incedence and at that it was not even experienced first hand. It's relative usefulness is very low. So your post quality is by almost all metrics useless.

We're done with that now.

I'm here for another half hour tripfriend. I can give you very expensive advice free. It's a good deal. You know what i want from you.

sage

massdebater
massdebater

@Snarelure

they didn't drink kool-aid at jonestown. they drank flavor aid.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Success is perfectly appearing to be what they want you to be while believing nothing that you parrot.

Methshot
Methshot

@Snarelure
no
but prepare to work 10x harder to not get fired

Methnerd
Methnerd

@farquit
I want some expensive advice free. pls help. thank kind.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Methshot
You can get fired for not associating with the company culture?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Snarelure
drink their kool-aid
You are already "drinking the kool-aid" using those kind of corporate bullshit terms.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Snarelure
Depends on the company. You've got to at least pretend like you do.

Some places are cults. Some places reward hard work. Find somewhere that's the latter.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@RumChicken
Not literally, but they will push you out. Have you never worked for a company before...?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Spazyfool
This, at the very least pretend to drink the kool aid.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Spazyfool
Pretty much this. Usually a lot of big name or well know companies operated fairly cultish. A lot of businesses are selling this "work culture" trend to attract younger candidates for their jobs, I'd highly recommend anyone to be careful of this shit. I know it sounds nice not to work in a completely conservative boring ass company, but a lot of the "work culture" companies are fucking either MLM scam jobs or a delusional hyper-positive companies who just want yes-men.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@CodeBuns
?

How else would you like me to describe it?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Garbage Can Lid
What does "push you out" mean?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@RumChicken

Look for ways to make you miserable, constantly work against you ect. Eventually you will be so unhappy you quit. Basically a constructive dismissal

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