American here

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

American here. We all know we can't easily beat China in terms of manufacturing and production. So I propose another idea; what if we used tourism to gain revenues? Is that an effective idea, or am I just ignorant of the way the world works?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@AwesomeTucker
am I just ignorant of the way the world works?
yep

Illusionz
Illusionz

@StrangeWizard
How so? I'm really curious to know the flaws in my idea so I may either adjust it or try and create a new one.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@AwesomeTucker
We do generate revenue through tourism.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@hairygrape
Sure, but can we generate more revenue through a higher focus on tourism?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Emberburn
my cows give milk and my chickens give eggs and my garden gives carrots
what if I get rid of my cows and my garden and get more eggs?
autism, friend.
you have it.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Emberburn
No.
Also, your whole question doesn't make any sense. You're asking a question that doesn't need to be asked at all and I can't understand why you're asking it. Why are you?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Emberburn
It's like telling your subordinates to work harder and expect more productiveness from them

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Flameblow
@TalkBomber
@VisualMaster
Ah, I see. Well, can we at least try and beat China at tourism? Have some sort of edge over them. All of this while keeping focus on other avenues of revenue? Or am I just and idiot?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Fuzzy_Logic
China is the oldest still-extant civilization on this planet.
Most of the US was barely inhabited until 150 years ago.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Fuzzy_Logic
The entire world trades in USD. What other edges do we need?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Supergrass
So? We still have some good monuments, such as Mount Rushmore and the St. Louis Arch. I honestly think we still have a chance.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Need_TLC
As many as we can get without becoming an authoritarian slave state, in order to prevent anyone else from usurping our position as an economic superpower.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Crazy_Nice
No one is going to usurp the United States position as top dog barring a countrywide collapse. That's literally retarded.

massdebater
massdebater

@Spamalot
Just trying to play it safe, but I see your point.
What about China? Do they have a strong enough manufacturing force to usurp us?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@massdebater
No. Manufacturing isn't likely to play a large role in the future global economy due to automation.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Tourism isn't a reliable industry, especially not as your biggest GDP source.

30 years ago Italy, Spain and Greece were industrialized nations with massive production plants, high furnaces and a blooming mechanical industry, in Italy they had from Ferrari to Fiat, in Spain they had Seat (now owned by VW), Bultaco and a shitton of truck brands like Pegaso (you can still see a lot of them in Latin America), in Greece they had Namco, they were also massive producers of domestic products like fridges and microwaves and of course their absolutely massive food industry. But once they entered the common European market and the EU they had to go through a process of deindustralization so they wouldn't compete with their cheap products in the same market as Germany, France and the UK, the real big bosses of the EU (till Brexit) who also had the biggest influence and upper hand in the Troika (ECB, EC and IMF) to compensate for this they received economic funds to be "more competitive", <<Ok ok you have to stop helping your industry with funds but we will pay you this other funds from the EU so you can give them to another industry that don't fuck with us>> (basically) thus the industry of tourism flourished in these nations and the once proud, creative, productive and independent nations of Southern Europe became the brothels of Europe and the oldfucks resorts of northern Europeans, a bunch of countries of services, restaurants, hotels, clubs, casinos and other shit that started to attract corruption and mafias from all around the world until they became the scorn of the western world. The deindustralization was so brutal in countries like Spain that it created the so called "structural unemployement", were 20% of the population became unemployed when hundreds of factories started closing, only masked temporarily due to the building bubble, which to begin with was incentivated by the tourism rush and the need to build more buildings, resorts and apartments for it.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Methnerd
they had to go through a process of deindustralization so they wouldn't compete with their cheap products in the same market as Germany, France and the UK
Is this actually the reason?
Why would they even agree to join the EU?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Snarelure
Why would they even agree to join the EU?

Inferiority complex towards the progressive "northern Europe" (Germany or France are assumed to be "northern"), the common people wanted to become "more like the liberated northern Europeans" from their Danish pornography movies or their French dramas, and the politicians were cool with the wads of cash being passed at them from Brussels for such an atrocity, there were many opposing voices but they were usually shutted down as either "fascist" or "communistic" (I'm capitalistic as fuck but that's true) people didn't know what they were going through, internet didn't exist by then, people just swallowed all the lies the media spouted at them. In Spain the Socialist Party opposed to it at the beginning and they were elected but then once in power they were suddenly in favour of joining the EU and NATO, massive betrayal. Most of them were just blinded by the EU funds in compensation for the deindustralization, they thought it was for the best and that the industry they had wasn't reliable in the long-term, it wasn't true but especially coming from brutal and socially repressive fascist dictatorships (Spain, Portugal and Greece) they were naive and eager to trust the progressive, democratic "perfect northern Angels" as some kind of utterly trustworthy people that wanted the best for everybody. Southern Europeans were blinded by their idealized idea of joining Europe as an act of liberation and modernization due to their extremely socially repressive upbringings.

The Euro was the second stab in the back, just look at how well our economies and industry did after the implementation compared to Germany. The fault? Ours entierely, for not seeing it coming and falling for the trap again.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@hairygrape
t. Ignorant

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@haveahappyday
JUST

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@AwesomeTucker
STEM is the future of America.

Tourism is a meme.

WebTool
WebTool

@AwesomeTucker
Tourism
America
America is a net exporter of tourists. It has no history, no culture, no public transport, and it's unsafe.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@AwesomeTucker
we can, we cut off trade the chinese lose their job. make america america again.

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