What does Veeky Forums think of this? It seems to me like a huge coping mechanism and a way to never get anywhere

What does Veeky Forums think of this? It seems to me like a huge coping mechanism and a way to never get anywhere.

There are some good points in there. Mike's a bit of a contrarian with his comments but it's welcomed in a culture that seems to swing too far the other way.

Frankly I think your family support structure/social capital and geographic distance to your university are the most significant. Don't try to aim for the stars if you're fighting way over your weight class

I feel like it's good advice for dumb people.

getting any job is good if youre a poverty stricken third worlder. but Veeky Forums is luxury oriented. we want things the smart and easy way

if Veeky Forums followed this advice, it would be such a better website. everyone would have jobs, lives, it'd be fucking cool. imagine if everyone on /r9k/ just followed this advice and got a job. everyone would be able to have their hobbies, have meetups etc. it'd just be neat. I do sort of think that everyone trying to get that one good job instead of just any job is sort of a drag.

Time > money sorry senpai not going to flip burgers and be a wagie just for the cathartic experience

It's good advice for people who lack direction.
There's no point "finding" a career, you have no choice in the matter, you're passive.

But the other thing is trying different things, meet with lots of different people from all works of life to improve your odds of hitting on something that actually invigorates you, where you don't feel like your a wageslave and actually are working in a industry because it interests you.

I can guarantee you something: sitting at home on your ass isn't a solution.

The bottom line is however:
>Make as much money as you can
>Learn as much about life as you can
>Acquire as many skills as you can

i cant wait until all your family is dead and you dont live for free anymore....then what? not even the burger flippers take you and then you are tiered up with welfare crack addicts and single moms

>volunteer for the scut work
>become indispensable

Great idea dipshit. That just makes them give you the scut work even more

Gee IDK what I'm gonna do. Right now I make about $400 a week selling nifty thrifties on eBay. Before this I would tell stores at the mall I was a missionary and ask if I could set up a display to make balloon animals and sell them to parents for $2-$3 made about $400 a weekend. Stores liked it because I brought foot traffic.

I tried the wagie route but it always ends up shit. I don't ever fit in because I hate being told what to do. Working with other people is tiresome because they think that just because we work together I'm expected to care about their problems and be friends with them. Not only that but the time invested is ludicrous when you consider the pay. I was making 15.50/HR with no degree which to me is absurd for committing all your free time and energy to something. I know some university grads making less than that and I can only feel bad for them. The world is changing. Getting a job and working hard to get ahead is no longer fiscally responsible.

I have a nice Normie biz casual wardrobe I collected thrifting probably cost around 2.5-3K new thrifted it for about $150. It sits in my closet for the day when I decide to get a big boy job but I don't know if that will ever happen. I just don't see the point anymore. So I'll probably just keep finding stupid ways to cover my expenses and not selling all my time for $15 an hour

There's always two sides in these threads.

1. The NEETs who can see that without money and proper education (which is also a question of money) you can't live the "american dream" anymore.
Not in the US and not even in the EU.
Only shitty dead end jobs where you can barely make enough money to live paycheck to paycheck.
Job security is zero. Constant stress.

2. The wageslaves who are delusional and dreaming of making it, while they can't even save enough money to invest it properly.
Also their favorite saying is: "Suck it up loser, no one likes to working!"
They work hating their mediocre life 40-50 years then became grumpy old men.

+1 the lucky and hypocrite ones that think they work hard but they have no idea about the real world outside of their little bubble
(self made, 'small loan of a million dollars' fags)
Their favorite saying: Believe in yourself, make your dreams come true!

>Believe in yourself
If you were born in the U.S.A near any cultural-hub, that's literally all you need to succeed.

If you were in Lithuania (or some shit country) you've got other things on your mind and the likelihood of striking it out are even smaller.

>Believe in yourself
>If you were born in the U.S.A near any cultural-hub, that's literally all you need to succeed.
That's nice... Damn... I'm a NEET living in Eastern Europe...
Well, hey, at least I'm not starving in a third world country.
I know anons will eat me alive, but I'd rather kill myself in a few years as a failed NEET than wageslaving till I die of exhaustion.

I would consider this good advise for us normies. As a first step however. Because while doing all of that u need to be starting a side business and investing.

What people don't realise is that volunteering for the scut work and showing up early/leaving late with no valid reason won't get you anywhere.

It sucks, but managers aren't going to promote their 'bitch'. They'll keep them where they need them.

The advice is sound if you're in a tough spot, but nobody should ever have to settle for doing something they hate 8+ hours a day on a permanent basis. People should always aspire to be more, and ambition is a valuable skill fampai

>show up early
>stay late
>manager fires you for working extra hours


Top kek Mr Rowe

Exactly

>What does Veeky Forums think of this? It seems to me like a huge coping mechanism and a way to never get anywhere.

Only if you take what he says at facevalue.

What I think he means is that no matter where you're at, work fucking hard. Even if you work at McDonald's, do the job the best you can if your fucking name is on it. Do everything, learn your tasks, learn your manager's tasks and learn his fucking manager's tasks.

Meanwhile you can apply to other jobs, of course never settle. But no matter where you're at give it your all.

You're working an 8 hr shift at McDonald's anyway. You can halfass it, or you can do it perfectly. The 8 hrs will pass all the fking same

Take everything as a learning opportunity. Even if it sucks. Because this shit is what builds you, this is the foundation your character is formed on


Yeah changing the toilet paper or grilling burgers in the LONGRUN means nothing. Who the fuck cares right? But it's about the effort you put in.

If you dobt slack off at mcdonalds, you wont slack off on your big business idea. You wont slack off when you go onto bigger things. That's all it is.

that's what I think he's saying mostly but in this specific quote:. There's no perfect career. Only the best make money, become the best accountant, the best lawyer, best pennystock shill, best cryptotrader, best criminal, best electrician, best plumber, best gay prostitute. Jusy fucking try and put in the work

Managers promote their bitches, but only when they move up and let you come with them.

Easy for him to say as an actor.

I went to a very good public high school and all of my friends went on to Ivies and top-tier public universities while I stayed at home and went to night and weekend classes at community college while working full-time during the day.

Eight years on, I make more than all of them because they stupidly chose to take on hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt to study what they love only to discover that there either aren't any relevant jobs to it or that the mere nature of work sucks all the joy and fun out of their passion hobbies. Meanwhile I picked a boring, lifeless, but in-demand field and graduated debt free from a university with a generic name that most of you have never heard of.

The system works if you know what you're doing

I think it's more about using every opportunity.

Hard work gets rewarded in much more less obvious ways than raises.

Just lol at neets, no gf, losers of the family, spends majority of time using distractions like video games and forums. All that free time and does nothing constructive with it. The people who are going to make it will make it refardless of their situation. You think every successful person just walked a straight line of success? I used to think that way, then I woke the fuck up and changed my life for the better. You learn to appreciate time and hustle harder when you work a job you don't like. At least for me it forced me to become more productive and resourceful. Now I have money saved up a brand new car I only owe a few grand on. My investments grow every month and I started a business. All while still working a job.

My point is you can have the victim mentality and stay in the same place or you can have the I'm gonna make it no matter what mentality.

This. Nice bro you're making it

so you stressed yourself out, wasted how many years of your life doing nothing but work, and for what? a slightly larger number in your bank than someone who sat at home collecting NEETbux? really making it there, bud

All I'm seeing in this thread is a whole bunch of bullshit excuses from people who simply don't want to work. They bought into the liberal "you're special and can be anything" meme that ensures they are forever working menial jobs and actually going no where chasing a dragon.

Keep deluding yourselves into believing you're going to get that million dollar gig, i need someone to bring me my beer in the meantime after another day of being productive.

>taking life advice from a captioned image

serving beers is a job tho doofus

I didn't do nothing but work. I worked hard and still work hard, but I also do the things I love. I cook all my food every sunday so ai have healthy meals for lunch. I hit the gym on the days I work and kickbox on my days off. For me free time at work I browse lots of different investment forums and read up on things I don't understand. I mean what do you do all day? Prob sit on the computer wasting time or playing video games or masterbating.

"Neetbux" doesn't pay anything unless you are very severely disabled or so mentally disturbed you're going to be tranquilized with medication. If you're just lazy and collect money you're getting 500 a month tops. My 17 year old sister makes more than that.

I was neet once after highschool, but I was always doing something productive. I got a 100 dollars from my step dad and started building a website. A year later sold it for just under 10k, i taught myself everything and enjoyed the process. Life is learning and living and you won't do either if you just sit around feeling sorry for yourself. If you don't want to work then hustle and make money doing something you love to do. The reality is the vast majority of "neets" are just porn addicts, video games addicts, and just plain lazy "men" who can't get out of bed before 3 pm.

A minimum wage job for college kids with degrees that get them nowhere

no you dont, you smoke weed everyday and browse Veeky Forums for stock tips that at least net you negative 30 percent with every trade because you fall for ceru and amd my nigga

I agree 90%.

Except at the end of the quote he should say, "then use the skills you have learned to start your own company"

>Because while doing all of that u need to be starting a side business and investing.
This is what I'm doing. I'm working on two, maybe three side businesses outside of my normal job. Sometime down the road I'll start putting money away into investments. Maybe I'll strike it rich, maybe I won't, but it's alot better than my years as a depressed NEET.

It's actually great advice because it applies to the majority of people. The people who will excel obviously don't need the advice in the first place.

Of course, most of Veeky Forums is going to call it stupid advice because they're NEETs from /r9k/ who can't even hold down a job, who believe they deserve more without putting any work into anything, which is why they constantly look and beg for get-rich-quick schemes and partake in overboard frugality.

Search deep down and you know I'm right. You can't refute my post logically, because it's your emotional side that wants to deny the truth.

>wageslaving til you die of exhaustion

this doesnt happen. its not even like you have to work some physically intensive blue-collar job. go apply at a fucking gas station, all you have to go is keep the place clean, stock the cooler, and run the register. who says you have to work long hours either? make it part-time and then you'll only have to work like 4 hours a day. gives you a little bit of spending money on weeb shit and once you realize that providing for yourself is the most satisfying way to live you'll aspire to attain bigger and better things