Changing mindset

RumChicken
RumChicken

Guys, please help me here. How do I start changing my mindset to think more about money?

I'm kind of a nice guy on the block, whom each time when I do stuff, I do it for free because of my "belief" that the more I give, the more I get mindset. I think that's bullshit. I'm currently employed and this is the only income I earn. Right now, when I think again (and getting back to reality), money is important.

This is my issue, how do I switch this old mind of mine to a new one who can manipulate my living lifestyle and earn more?

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Nojokur
Nojokur

@RumChicken
nice guy
No, you're not, you're a piece of shit, and let me tell you why. You do things for people only because of what you perceive is in it for YOU. That's the definition of selfishness.

Your problem isn't niceness, your problem is you're a spineless, gutless, piece of shit who somehow got it into your little, money-grubbing head that being everyone else's doormat would somehow benefit YOU.

You know why I'm being so hard on you? I am sick and tired of people using "niceness" as an excuse for other personal shortcomings. Niceness in of itself is a positive trait that people should strive to have. Passivity and a lack of assertiveness would be better descriptors for you.

One last side not about why I'm so butt-blasted by your post. You know "nice guys" that are now universally made fun of? Who act like treating women like basic human beings entitles them to sex? Well you're the same way, except instead of sex from women, it's social (ie. jobs, promotions) or financial (payment for services) gain.

Lunatick
Lunatick

read think and grow rich
read 48 laws of power
read money sex power fame
do daily affirmations about making money

likme
likme

@RumChicken
how do I think more about money

It's called realizing without money you're basically going to be a pathetic loser when you grow old. Keep that in mind and you'll have motivation.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@likme

Look back at your high school year book and find that girl you really wanted to fuck, the one that was perfect but either was taken or had no shot at.

Think about would things have been different if you could buy that girl the world.

Think about what things would be like with money. Like that dream then get hustling. Think big, think expensive. Let that hunger drive you. Fuck every one else just think about how wil ahte on your success because they dont have it. Take it.
Feed on their bland life and pity it. You are rich. You are where your at but can always be higher.

Once you make 1k, go for 10k. After 10 100k. then a mill, then 5 mill. Don't stop till you are there then keep going. You will notice the world will start being your toy, use it as it is.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@RumChicken
All these motivating basement dwellers making me want to quit drinking mountain dew

idontknow
idontknow

@Nojokur
I failed to find an answer in your comment but I accept the way you use "niceness" in this context. Yes I do agree, I shouldn't use the word "nice" in this discussion as it derives different meaning to what I am referring to. But thanks anyway :-)

@Lunatick
Thanks. I'll read some money books in my free time.

@likme
I do realize it now

@CouchChiller
Yea I get that I guess. It's a whole new mindset I'm building after this. Thanks for the thought.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@idontknow
listen to audio books on youtube its a lot more efficient.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Sharpcharm
Any recommendation?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Nojokur
Not Op. but how do you know me user?
Like 80% of what you said that hits me like looking in the mirror in the harsh light of a clear summer's day revealing every imperfection.

goddamn.

Thank you!

idontknow
idontknow

1 Mil a year is about $115 an hour.

Find something to bring in $115 an hour and you have it.

I'm working on that now, that's what drives me.

$115 an hour.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Nojokur
10/10
nailed it

Playboyize
Playboyize

@idontknow
1 Mil a year is about $115 an hour.
only if you earn while you sleep.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Playboyize
And that, i believe is the secret!

idontknow
idontknow

@idontknow
Could go as far as selling 8750 of something at $115.

When you break it down, it all seems possible.
@Gigastrength

Playboyize
Playboyize

@idontknow
1 Mil a year is about $115 an hour.
52 weeks x 40 hours = 2080 hours

$1,000,000 / 2080 = $481 per hour

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Playboyize
Who works only 40 hours a week on their dreams mate?

You might not be working 24 hours on it, but you need whatever it is to crank along at that rate to get the M.

If you hang up hat at 8 hours a day, 5 a week, you will never amount to much more than a basic pleb with only basic pleb thinking.

There are 24 usable hours in every day. When a deficit is created, pick up the slack!

1Mil/365/24

no accounting for leaps. you can have those days off.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@TreeEater
Kek

He actually believes money has a correlation to time spent...

I bet you believe the tortoise and the hare too

Snarelure
Snarelure

@RumChicken
Read richdad poordad. It's not a meme. It changed my life. Continue to read personal finance books and study investment laws and SEC rules. Follow tai lopez and the like to see what u missing out on.

Gl user.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@idontknow
I failed to find an answer in your comment
You're right, so this time I'll try to be helpful.

So going off of my original rant, I'd suggest general assertiveness training. Basically, working on saying "no", "what's in it for me?" (in professional terms), and ways to enforce your being rewarded (ex: "can I get that in writing?").

Other than your slightly inaccurate views about traits, you don't seem like you'd need formal counseling. I'd suggest something like a one-time skill-building seminar if you can find one, or even just practicing what you want to get across to people in a mirror before you see them.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@RumChicken
I'm kind of a nice guy on the block, whom each time when I do stuff, I do it for free because of my "belief" that the more I give, the more I get mindset.

Just world falacy

I think that's bullshit.
Youre right. Learn to say NO, and charge people money, as much as you can get away with. I don't mean your parents/gf/best friend, but everyone else is fair game.

massdebater
massdebater

@RumChicken
Refrain from masturbating and watching porn for a long period of time.

Your brain will finally realize that you must make money/have a job to obtain females which will allow you to release your built up sexual frustration.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Dreamworx
Is it helpful to start switching things around.
Rather than think:
What's in it for me?
you should think
I think that's unfairly taking advantage of me
Or am I way off?

Also saying yes to stuff opens doors, but how do you... well... basically get paid for it?

Is it as simple as having enough self-respect at your skill set that you say:
I'm sorry. I can only do it for x price.

Methshot
Methshot

@Nojokur
Thanks for tipping this out for me.
I've already heard the definition if it but now I have it easy accessable to prove some guys wrong in their believes.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Nojokur
@Methshot
replied to 44 dubs with 44 dubs.
Today is a good day for me.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Fried_Sushi
Or am I way off?

You're doing great well, bucko, but there is a clarification I would like to make, although it may seem obvious.

The way you make money off your skills is to charge for them, but be sure to market yourself accordingly. Example:

Wrong: "Hey, user, could you help me clean the gutters?"
"Fuck you, mom. That'll be twenty dollars."

Correct: "I user am starting a gutter cleaning buisness."
"Anon, could you clean my gutters?"
"Sure thing, just go to my website, wwwgutteringcandle.com and place an order for my services"

That is to say, doing odd jobs because people need help sometimes should not be profitable, however using your marketable skills should be. So make sure to set up a way for you to take advantage of the skill you want to market.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Playboyize
So ~$700hr before taxes. Lol, i make about 2% of that...

girlDog
girlDog

@Crazy_Nice
add to this.
never under-estimate the value of goodwill.

If large corporations can place hundreds of thousands of dollars on its value, so can you.

so cleaning out the gutters can have an intrinsic value that could be called upon at a later date should it be required.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Crazy_Nice
@girlDog
@Fried_Sushi
@massdebater
@viagrandad
@Dreamworx
@Snarelure

OP here. Thanks for the advice guys. I appreciate it very much. As of what @Dreamworx
has said, I think I'm lack of marketing skills to begin with. I never thought about having "filters" in my conversation with people before. So I guess I should polish a few things up here.

farquit
farquit

@Snarelure
For me, reading books help if you want to learn the wisdom of the author.

@Crazy_Nice
Additionally, I'm thinking of a more practical way to switch this mindset to something that I can always relate to money-making that I think have potentials in it. Couldn't agree with you more with the conversation example you gave as it immediately makes you "think about money" before anything else.

And also, I will forever remember this @Nojokur
. Thank you user

SniperWish
SniperWish

@farquit
One of the best things I learned about mindset was this:

The best way to make money is to raise the average value of your time. If you get paid $10/hr, your average hour value is 10 dollars while at work and zero the rest of the time, so roughly $3/hr. So, there are two ways to raise this, either increase the value per hour (aka a raise) which is the typical way to make more money, but is always divided by the time you don't work (normally divided by about three, because you 8 hours of work is one third of your day). Or, make more of your time valuable. Even if you only make one dollar an hour outside of work, you still raise your average by a lot. 3 dollars an hour raises to four dollars an hour, that's a 33% total money addition, if you make one dollar an hour every hour you are not at work. So, find things that pay you consistently outside of work, if you get good at these things, you can eventually make them your full time job.

Basically, find ways to make money on your down time, either by trading or starting an online buisness. Even helping your grandma clean out her basement for twenty bucks is more valuable than playing video games. Increasing the amount of valuable time will normally be more valuable than increasing the value of your time. If you can do both, even better. If you make 20/hr while off work, then your value per hour is 17 $, instead of 3. That's a 600% increase! That's what you have to think about.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@SniperWish
That is an awesome break down analysis user. I've heard about this kind of thing but couldn't really grasp the concept because I didn't really care at that moment. Thank you for sharing!

viagrandad
viagrandad

@RumChicken
For me personally I've always loved and respected the potential of not just money but resources.

Money has the potential to allow you to do more of what you already enjoy. If you really enjoy giving with whatever pithy amount you make now, imagine what it would be like to give 1 million away, 5 million, 50 million, a billion. Let your imagination run wild on exactly how you would do this. This will motivate you to do what's necessary.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Do the self made wealth program. its in my links under hustle muscle rehab.

You're literally the perfect user. You're gonna have to do a deep dive to find out all the bullshit invisible scripts and bad programming you're dealing with.

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Techpill
Techpill

@Sir_Gallonhead
Good to see you still taking care of the "schtickie", mang.

Inmate
Inmate

@Sir_Gallonhead
Woa wiat a second.
I'm seeing this the first time. What exactly is it?

Nice Anone.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@RumChicken
the more I give, the more I get

This only works if you do it like the mafia.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@RumChicken
Guys, please help me here. How do I start changing my mindset to think more about money?

Here's what helps me change my mindset / motivate me. Determine what economic-social class you belong to. Then, go out to a downtown area of a non-major city that is composed of the class above you.

If you're lower middle class, then go hang out downtown in a middle or upper middle class city.

Then watch how these people behave. They dress nicer, probably use product in their hair, practice good hygiene, and have a healthy weight. Copy them and become them.

idontknow
idontknow

@Sir_Gallonhead
Golden! Thank you for sharing. You have my whole Internet data points :^)

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