Union for Free Drivers?

TechHater
TechHater

What the fuck is wrong with people?

How do they have the nerve to work for a company on their own time, at their own location, with a great wage and insured while in service, and all of a sudden want to unionize because they think their voice isnt being heard,

Last time I checked, you had to apply to work for Uber or Lyft and they could hire you if they wanted or not.
And by you getting employed meant that you'll follow their corporate rules (which are pretty lenient desu). They dont owe people employment.
People arent entitled to stuff for nothing

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Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@TechHater

UBER is paying the drivers too little though. UBER has almost 0 overhead and they take 50% of the income. Why shouldn't the workers collectively argue for a better wage? It's just basic business.

likme
likme

@Nude_Bikergirl

People always pull this shit and I don't understand it. No one has a gun to their heads they can always leave and find another job.

Nobody wanna put in that work.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Nude_Bikergirl
if you don't like uber, drive for lyft

taxis aren't a free market because the government restricts the number of licences

more regulation isn't what's needed

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@likme
This is such a contrived, tired argument. It should be banned for use as a placeholder idea.

How about a little obvious honesty: because they can.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@likme
It's more that people tend to be under the impression that unions can force a company to pay you more.
It's also true they can find another job, so for them, what's not to like about unionizing, even if it results in layoffs within the company?

SniperGod
SniperGod

This union shit was started by the taxi companies to make it easier to compete with Uber. If Uber unionizes, wages and benefits increase, which will mean fares will increase making them more in line with taxi services. If the costs are the same, who would you trust more; a licensed taxi driver or a random stranger?

Excellent play by the taxi companies imo.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Only faggots are anti-union, and that includes OP. What a faggot he is.

farquit
farquit

@Lunatick
anti-union
All right, way to reduce everything to two choices.
That's the American way!

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@farquit
You sound like a fuckin scab.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Nude_Bikergirl
Pretty much this. Uber is a software company and is pulling in the dough. No individual lemming can challenge them, but all together they can. Good for them that they have the balls to do it.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@TalkBomber
Oh?
Because I see more positions than just pro-union and anti-union?
That's very reasonable of you.

Evilember
Evilember

@Lunatick
@TalkBomber
Your livelihood is from the tit of the mother that is the union.

You are visual scum and deserve to be shat on every time the economy is bad.

Unions cause too many problems for too many industries for you to assume it works in ever scenario.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@SniperGod
This

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Nude_Bikergirl
So then find another job

You sound like a fucking bernie supporter right now
entitled to everything
forgets that corporations set their own rules

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Nude_Bikergirl

Uber/Lyft Corporates invented an innovative software and ride-sharing system

Employees just applied and pick people up and drop them off and get a comission

Im pretty sure the executives earned themselves the right to pay their employees whatever they want and set their own rules

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@SniperGod
So pretty much, theyre converting uber and lyft into another taxi group that you can access with your phone?

And in that case, you might as well use Curb.

Clever

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Evilember
You are visual scum and deserve to be shat on every time the economy is bad.
Good thing my CBA includes a Pay Guarantee Plan.

Have fun with your race to the bottom, scab.

Methshot
Methshot

Did you guys forget that Uber lowered their rates several times?

It didn't used to be a horrible job.

Same with AirBnB forcing home owners to take undesirable tenants.

These companies have no risk and take half, so either the business model fails or something changes.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@likme

By applying this logic we should abandon all the rules that guarantee workers any rights whatsoever.

No OT
No min wage
No holidays
No workplace safety
Children put to work

They can just quit if they don't like it right?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@VisualMaster

I own a business. I do not support Bernie.

The vast majority of business owners will treat employees in the lowest and cheapest fashion they possibly can. The only barrier stopping them from treating the labor class like garbage is government regulation.

It's a necessary evil.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@MPmaster
Not completely true. I manage a small courier company, and we hit the reliable but more expensive niche. Our drivers are the highest paid in the capitol city where I work, but essentially we're doing the same work as uber just different freight. Uber drivers are harming themselves getting classified as employees and unionizing and etc. If you can actually do your own taxes (without software) you end up paying less than almost anyone-there were years as am driver where I cleared 27k and not having to pay any taxes at all, another year 25k with taxes getting paid back- because I worked as an independent contractor.

not even working steadily and consistently those years either.easily could have made more if I wanted to. It's not cheating taxes either- I log and itemize everything necessary throughout the year, and the gov gets $ indirectly and through secondary values so you're not even really failing to contributevan to society (and they know that)
Tl;dr uber drivers are being dumb and losing workplace freedom when they think they're asking for fairness. I have one the best jobs in the world now and being a driver wasn't far behind. Working for giant companies like uber doesn't help either. When you work for a small business like mine you can communicate with your bosses and work things out instead of being penalized for taking off and etc. Uber didn't have the capacity for a good workplace relationship, just a corporate one. The two are almost mutually exclusive

Bidwell
Bidwell

@SomethingNew

I don't quite understand what the point of this is either.

Employees are essentially just pushing to be just like a regular taxi job.

They don't want to be employees, but they want all the employee benefits.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Bidwell
Which is dumb imo- having benefits isn't worth as much as having equivalent money to spend however is necessary. It's like asking a giant corporation to go shopping for them. Courier companies fight the IRS too to keep their IC models intact because they wouldn't stay afloat without it (at least the ones that pay above average). Uber would do very well if they could just figure out how to stay ICs while keeping drivers happy about pay, because their overhead really isn't shit now that marketing has done it's job and they don't require oversized company trucks and etc

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@TechHater
http://gothamist.com/2016/09/28/uber_lyf_union_drive.php

lyft driver here. did not know about this. i just need money being a poorfag.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@New_Cliche
i guess not if the people that they employ dont agree desu..

honestly i stopped working for uber because they treat the driver like shit. I really like lyft tho.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Unions havn't meant anything for a long time. They're just a way for greedy faggots to bully their boss out of more money without putting out any extra work. Just look at Canada Post, they go on strike every few years and still can't fucking deliver mail to the right house.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@BunnyJinx

Some of those signs are gold.

We made uber billionaire and uber want make us homeless

Hey Uber, I'm not replaceable

cum2soon
cum2soon

@TechHater
eh, if the drivers really want to unionize they should be able to do so.
Not that it matters in the long-term, robots are going to take their jerbs.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Doesn't matter. Uber is already piloting "driverless" cars in Pittsburgh. Once that goes live, anything below top service drivers are fucked. Uber has the legitimate opportunity to bring costs to the point where it's probably easier to just use them, than own a car. Estimates are about .35ยข/mile. I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen nationwide in the next couple years.

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