How do you fix Veeky Forums? Apparently Hiro is too dumb to do it

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

How do you fix Veeky Forums? Apparently Hiro is too dumb to do it

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King_Martha
King_Martha

@Harmless_Venom
Idk

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Delete some boards ffs

Enable adult ads

Ez

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Harmless_Venom
ask the NSA for more money?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Harmless_Venom
Does he even know how to use google adsense?

This site should easily be making millions.

WebTool
WebTool

Posting some recommends from the /qa/ thread. I will stick to monetization suggestions rather than technical suggestions (mostly reduce image size and delete certain boards)

Thread Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX7MbG6MiQs

/qa/thread/706294#p706750

make Veeky Forums passes available via PayPal, and make them cheaper (like $5) since more people will buy them then
make a paid Veeky Forums app for mobile
make a direct donation button, /qa/thread/706294#p706694 is a great idea

/qa/thread/706294#p706381
make a 6 month Veeky Forums pass for 10 dollars

/qa/thread/706294#p706426
/qa/thread/706294#p706512
Enable Paypal for Veeky Forums passes and I'll buy one.

/qa/thread/706294#p706588 /qa/thread/706294#p706612
Release a paid Veeky Forums app with the pass feature free. Also reduce the price of a pass; you know how economics works.
This, if pass was like 2 dollars, everyone would buy

/qa/thread/706294#p706650
Another idea: Moot never liked this, but you could do a yearly donation drive Wikipedia-style. It's how a lot of the *chans used to stay active.

/qa/thread/706294#p706674
Make Veeky Forums passes actually fucking buyable, Hiro. I would've bought one a long time ago had PayPal or something been available for them instead of only credit cards, which is ridiculous.

/qa/thread/706294#p706684
Paypal blacklisted Veeky Forums a decade ago.

/qa/thread/706294#p706985
Bullshit, moot made over 100k on ads a year and servers only cost upward of 10k at the most, provided the FBI aren't paying your hosting fees like that one /b/ mod claimed in 2010.
Your ronin pass bullshit isn't going to work here motherfucker, the fact that you try to fearmonger idiots into giving you more money is fucking pathetic.

/qa/thread/706294#p707883
Lower the cost of Veeky Forums pass to 10$, Make Captcha somehow more cancerous, Making people choose the Pass instead.

/qa/thread/706294#p708090
Another idea would be to introduce 1 month, 3 month and 6 month passes.

/qa/thread/706294#p706588
Release a paid Veeky Forums app with the pass feature free.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Skullbone

the kikes won't advertise on Veeky Forums, but some of the shitter advertising firms would love it, aka porn advertisers

still he should be making fucking millions from this site easily. Pornhub for example survives on ads revenue and generates millions in profit while their bandwidth usage is extremely higher than a few fucking autists posting images

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

site has an 18+ disclaimer
no adult ads at all
hiroshima is a retard

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Harmless_Venom

Gives deals to that one anime hentai adult toy site (J-H somthing)
Doesn't give deals to other businesses
Wonders why nogoy wants to advertise

takes2long
takes2long

@Evil_kitten
/thread

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Evil_kitten
Brazzers basically just browses /b and makes videos based on whatever vile shit they come up with. This is really not a hard one to figure out folks.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Harmless_Venom
There used to be a ton of porn ads on NSFW boards.
I don't know when they went away.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

How much do you guys think Veeky Forums would cost to buy and run per month?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Poker_Star
10zł

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@iluvmen

No one will support a site that has a board which has threads dedicated to simulated cp

Loli and shota are laegacy of Veeky Forums, but also what holds ads away.

Also due to ridiculous laws around the world that prohibit supporting sites like this with that kind of content

Plenty of porn chans have sunk due to this

Not4chan
Shotachan
Petichan

Just to name a few

t. pervert who has been on this wild ride since 2006

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

make software free and open source

get people on /g/ to do something in exchange for Veeky Forums passes

allow sound on all board (8ch has always had this)

add support for mp4 and PDF files

get rid of the crap chans (you know what I mean)

get unbiased mods

get rid of offtopic stuff

move wrestling to /sp/

move watches to /fa/

combine /toy/ and /co/

get rid of all the video game stuff and combine into one or two

less NSFW subs

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Shut down /pol/ and /r9k/

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I have no problem with donating money to Veeky Forums. I don't even care about getting a "pass," but one thing I will not be doing is using my credit card.

Get rid of the pornography boards and have adult ads.

Honestly this should be very easy to fix.

Soft_member
Soft_member

GO TO THIS POLL TO VOTE ON WHICH BOARD YOU WANT TAKEN DOWN

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/146P0mxkhbdJRGbcd5ErGeCQQMLAX5MZF7x0eSFiYons

RESULTS WILL BE COMING OUT IN A FEW DAYS ON /QA/! GET VOTING!

SPREAD THE LINK FAR AND WIDE!

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Make /pol/ a pay gated board that people have to apply too and it could get millions. Although these losers would probably hack it...sigh. I am hoping that the CTR people and Leafs for Hillary could be filtered out and any kid there just to spam nigger and we might have a good board again.

I really want to go back to the time where there wasn't so much devil's advocating and you could trust people's disagreements and not need to be afraid they were using you for money.

idontknow
idontknow

Will he delate Veeky Forums?
I really like Veeky Forums tbqh

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@idontknow
Veeky Forums is low traffic so it doesnt really matter

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@idontknow

Veeky Forums has low traffic and low bandwith usage

Mootwo should put and end to webms and keep file sizes below 2mb

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Move shit boards like /pol/ to their own server, let them pay for it, if they don't the boards stops working.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@SomethingNew
Similar idea: have /pol/ have a bandwidth cap and a link to a donation site. If /pol/s cost exceed the bandwidth cap, a donation drive is stickied with the AnCap smiley guy.
when you're trying to plan your whites only utopia and your japanese landlord invokes the NAP to cut off your free speech
If the goal isn't met within two weeks, images on /pol/ are turned off. After four weeks without meeting the goal, the board is closed.

They should really do a quarterly audit of each board where they try to analyze the amount of racist, guro, loli, and death threat posting and hold those boards hostage with donation drives. That's the stuff that even porn advertisers can't abide. The rule should be that the more unmarketable you make Veeky Forums, the harder it is for you to post.

Firespawn
Firespawn

I already posted this on /g/, but:

You have dozens of specific interest boards. You know exactly what each board wants. Just add a webshop to each board.

Make a deal for cheap video games and video cards for /v/. Anime and puppets for /a/ and /jp/. Poland balls for /int/. Dating for /soc/ and /r9k/. Hardware for /g/. Warhammer games for /tg/. Fishing gear for /out/. Dragon dildos for /gif/. Meme shirts for /b/. Series for /tv/. Martial art gear for /asp/. Books for /lit/ and Veeky Forums.

Plus people constantly refresh threads. So you should add Javascript that only images that are on screen get loaded. This way people don't reload all thumbnails with every refresh.

If you still need to save money then you can reduce image sizes on boards with a high image to user ratio.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Sharpcharm

Fuck off newfag, loli is free speech, Veeky Forums is more American that the fucking constitution, no content should be deleted to attract ads, that move would end the spirit of Veeky Forums as the last bastion of freedom of expression on the goddamn internet still on the clreaweb

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Firespawn
Yeah, where is my Veeky Forums coffee cup.
I don't even drink coffee but I want one.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Where do we go if Veeky Forums gets deleted?

We need a contingency plan.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Sharpcharm
@CodeBuns
The only board which has naked lolis is /b/ I think. Unless you think you are looking at cp everytime you see a cartoon animu girl

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@RavySnake

No you don't. People with jobs don't want other people with jobs to talk to them about Veeky Forums.

I get enough crap for my Rickroll mug.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Gigastrength
end to webms
when they use less space than gifs
but sure I would agree to temporarily cap it at 2...well, 2.5 mb.

whereismyname
whereismyname

An official Veeky Forums channel on youtube, with videos ranging from 2-5 minutes posted daily to abuse the algorithms in youtube and ads on here that blatantly say "go give views to the videos" then voila, with the millions upon millions of views the revenue can be used to sustain Veeky Forums.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Harmless_Venom
Looks like a complete management failure to me. How did this guy even get it in his right mind to take this position if he clearly can't handle it. He is absolutely not capable of managing anything.

Suck a dick, Hiro!

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Poker_Star
14 rare Pepes.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Harmless_Venom
Honestly, donation drive would be best.

Should prob limit .webm to 2mb across boards.

Get rid of /f/ and have them revive Newgrounds.

takes2long
takes2long

@Spamalot
Honestly, a Patreon would be a good idea too.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Gigastrength
Mootwo should put and end to webms and keep file sizes below 2mb
He could find a way to append an ad to the start or end of webms posted.

5mileys
5mileys

@SomethingNew
Make /pol/ a pay gated board that people have to apply too and it could get millions

One thing you can do is have super accounts that have a limited number of sub accounts with limited post capabilities. Set up an /exc/ board where plebs can exchange whatever to get membership on someones super account. Essentially establishing /pol/ superpacs.

askme
askme

Ads are realistically the easiest way to monetize, but it kind of requires going down the adult route, meaning you never get money from reputable sources.

If you want reputable stuff, delete the porn boards and any that have terrible traffic, they can just set up shop on the other chan or something

I like the webshop idea, but it might be tricky to run an ecommerce business in addition to the chan. Better to sell space to shops to sell shit on the site for different boards

Also, how the fuck have reddit made money to date?

massdebater
massdebater

@SniperWish
That ended years ago, user. The mods are SJWs. moot is an SJW.

likme
likme

@whereismyname

This guy right here knows how to business

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@likme
No, he does not. He's a hipster faggot with some dreams and no actual experience.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@OP.

You are of course, a huge fagot.

Anyways, ask for donations once a year.

Also, fuck out the webm shit, I can't even watch that crap on my superior mac.

Last but not least, get the fuck back to school you nitwit piece of shit. Running this site is pre-breakfast work - if you have SOME management capabilities. Pussy.

JunkTop
JunkTop

keep it exactly the same only remove ads and make it pay only

Netflix is 8 dollars a month Veeky Forums is worth that easily, the sweet spot is probably around 150 a year, any more expensive and you will lose quality

Only accept btc and monero as payment, fuck off normies/casuals/large payment processor fees and management

Announce at 330 am EST and have a 45 minute window where people can get a year pass for free , effective immediately to view the site after that 45 mins is expired

Many problems solved at once

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Make ads mandatory like they do on wired.com.
Adblocker enabled? Veeky Forums disabled, unless you have a pass.
It'll piss people off, but it'll bring in more money.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Harmless_Venom
ipban australia
would reduce traffic by 20% and drastically improve quality

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@RavySnake
Me too.
I'd love a Veeky Forums mug.
Would never wear a t-shirt though, unless it was subtle.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Harmless_Venom
Calculate server costs per board and have a donation counter. If a board doesn't meet its server costs by the end of the month, it gets disabled until it does. Give donaters an optional capcode that they can display if they want. Boom is fixed your problem. The shit boards will fade and the decent ones will succeed.
(also delete pol)

SniperGod
SniperGod

delete pointless boards (r, t, s4s, all porn boards)
purge pointless boards (all these hentai boards, all 3 vidya boards)
stop on-site archiving, we have other sites for that
if all else fails and the site continues to die, make it so only Veeky Forums pass users can post

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Harmless_Venom
/qa/thread/706294#p706294
close some boards
Maybe if he hadn't made some redundant/stupid boards in the first place, he wouldn't be having this problem
we used to have a /news/ board which is now /pol/, hiro makes his own /news/ board
moot always said a history board was a bad idea, hiro makes one anyway

MPmaster
MPmaster

@TalkBomber
see i don't know how this is a problem. from what i can tell, 10M visitors going to 20 boards instead of 40 won't help the cash issue

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Something like @Gigastrength
but not as draconian, if you delete boards that have been here for years just because they cost $10 a month it will cause a backlash, the Veeky Forums reputation and "brand" is what separates it from other imageboards so going all private equity on this place is misguided.

As much as I like /gif/ I assume that it is responsible for most of the traffic and you might want to limit the size of webms on other boards. Ideally you want to favor unique hits above the amount of gbs Veeky Forums has to send to users. Asking for donations on these boards may not be enough either, though I am sure they will understand if /gif/ has ads. porn ads maybe

delete pol
I expect /pol/ will be a good source of donations

happy_sad
happy_sad

@StrangeWizard
Traffic what makes money retard. You need traffic to stay open. This is an ad-based site, no traffic means no one seeing your ads.

@SniperGod
The 3rd party archives are a big part of the problem. They take huge amounts of bandwidth constantly downloading every thread.

Deleting boards doesn't do anything, storage is very cheap. The entirety of all the boards you listed is only a few gigs. A $20 flashdrive could store every board in it's entirety. The real cost is hosting.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Just make a donate button

There's tons of richfags who browse

RavySnake
RavySnake

@WebTool
this guy gets it.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@w8t4u
Is this why they put so many Bane references in their videos?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Need_TLC
Veeky Forums users are tech literate for the most part and will find out a way to circumvent ads. pornhub would be mostly old geezers that wouldnt even know what adblock is. They'd also be more likely to click ads.
Veeky Forums users are mostly students with little money and are unlikely to click ads.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@haveahappyday
also, he could put a bar at the top of each board that gradually fills up until the month's server running costs are met.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Playboyize
he could put a bar at the top of each board that gradually fills up until the month's server running costs are met.
problem is everyone would assume he's lying and nobody on Veeky Forums actually donates money.

the pass is a perfectly fine way of donating. Apparently it's not enough.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@TurtleCat
yeah but these cucks have the mentality of 'so what am I getting for $15?' when its a pass and not a donation. Instead of thinking about how it would benefit the site.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@VisualMaster
true, but someone smart enough to donate would get it.

apparently most of Veeky Forums is populated by drooling idiots, or they're just pretending to be stupid to explain why they didn't donate.

either way, no money.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Shkreli is actually doing it

King_Martha
King_Martha

@BunnyJinx
get rid of the crap chans (you know what I mean)
lel
everyone knows what you mean, but no one will agree with anyone else

Bidwell
Bidwell

Merge /v/, /vp/, /vg/, /vr/.
Merge /d/ and /aco/.
Merge /e/ and /h/
Merge /a/, /c/ and /w/
Merge /cm/ and /hm/
Merge /i/, /ic/, /3/, /gd/
I'm probably missing a few boards.

Inmate
Inmate

@Bidwell
eh, fuck it. just delete Veeky Forums while you're at.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@happy_sad
The 3rd party archives are a big part of the problem. They take huge amounts of bandwidth constantly downloading every thread.
you know shit about technology, as expected of suits.

they use the API which gives incremental updates. they only download new images. and the text traffic is miniscule

Nojokur
Nojokur

@PackManBrainlure
Like I said, you NEED traffic. No traffic means nobody seeing your ads.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Harmless_Venom
He didn't say he couldn't fix it.

he said he couldn't fix it without changing it.

he's going to fix it.
he's going to change it.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Harmless_Venom
I want this picture explained

cum2soon
cum2soon

@viagrandad
the artist is suggesting that making money for its own sake is no reason at all.

Evilember
Evilember

@cum2soon
the artist is suggesting that making money for its own sake is no reason at all.

That's ridiculous, making money is how you keep score and know who is winning.

WebTool
WebTool

@Evilember
I'd hazard a guess that most rich people are moral relativists and atheists.

which means ultimately they don't think the score matters either. It's just a hobby though. It's not like a nihilist could imagine any other way of spending their time to be more useful.

personally I make money, scuba dive, travel, and metal detect. I know none of that matters.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@cum2soon
@Evilember
I think he means that if someone was truly nihilistic they wouldn't worry about getting other people interested in nihilism, they would just do whatever they wanted.

idontknow
idontknow

- bring back donations with high cap (e.g. 1000 usd limit)
- add more duration options for passes (1 month, 2 months, etc...)
- add more payment methods for passes (sms payment, paypal etc)
- use affiliate links (e.g. mobile games, amazon, anime-related stores etc...)

imho this will solve all problems for at least 5 years, till the site needs another servers' upgrade.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Firespawn
people don't reload thumbnails with every refresh
what is caching?

@massdebater
concur

Methshot
Methshot

Let people purchase gets and (You)s

Methnerd
Methnerd

@idontknow
use affiliate links
Pic related, from an anime site. With the huge number of visitors that Veeky Forums gets every day, it shouldn't take much time to start earning the server costs with affiliations alone. I'd say, there's could be enough profit to even expand the current server infrastructure, P2W games are very popular among smartphone users (especially kids, who lurk this place on daily basis despite the site's premise that underages aren't allowed).

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Harmless_Venom
66
Delete /pol/ kek demands it.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Ignoramus
I think the dude who writes the Bane stuff has posted on /tv/ or something

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Put NSFW boards behind Veeky Forums pass. Those boards chew up the most bandwidth anyway. Make Veeky Forums pass much easier to purchase.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

the solution is so ridiculously easy.

hiroshimoot should simply subscribe for the amazon-affiliate-program.

everybody who wants 4chins to exist in the next month should use the link for purchasing whatever he wants at amazon - and the account holder will get a neat provision.

there are so many faggots making so many shekels with that simple method - it could generate millions.

only thing really vital i guess is complete transparency.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Evil_kitten
Agreed

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Stark_Naked
yeah and then his amazon profile gets hacked and all the names are exposed

ALARMS

Spamalot
Spamalot

@BunnyJinx
combine /toy/ and /co/
No thanks

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Harmless_Venom
slinging merch. let his users design the stuff and then let us vote on it like the board banners. there are so many people on this forum who would love to be decked out in the latest memes.

girlDog
girlDog

@Boy_vs_Girl
pretty sure the affiliate-partner does not get this kind of information.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Stop archiving all the old threads.

Remove /soc/, /s4s/, /hc/ and /r9k/, as those are all newer normalfag boards.

Limit upload sizes to 2-3MB.

Increase post cooldown timer by another 10-15 seconds, perhaps. Might help reduce shitposting a bit, or at least slow it down, and gives people more time to think about what they are typing, rather than shitting out one-word replies constantly.

Disable page access if pop up blockers are detected. A fairly small part of the userbase will know the work arounds, or bother to take the time to look it up, or actually do what they need to to work around it.

Yearly donation drive. Bring back the Longcat donation meter, and watch him get longer and longer.

Paypal for Veeky Forums passes, and give pass users nice but not necessary privilages. Like going a little further beyond the regular filesize limit, continuing to ignore Captcha, posting cooldown reduced to current (assuming it is increased), (You)'s visible only to pass users.

Even if we can't get advertisers back, there are still options out there. Hell, advertisers may start coming back once election season ends, and the Nazi Pepe Racism Factory stigma begins to once again fade from public memory.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@SomethingNew
The spamming will stop after november

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@whereismyname
implying YouTube Heroes would let the videos monetized

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Trump losses = Delete /pol/
Trump wins = Delete /gif/

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