Any other ontariofags excited about this possible basic income change?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

tfw ontario might be implementing a basic income of 22k a year for every adult
tfw I work full time and only make 18k a year
tfw I'll finally be able to eat proper food

Any other ontariofags excited about this possible basic income change?

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/28/universal-basic-income-ontario-poverty-pilot-project-canada
https://discord.gg/4h3XE
eGremlin
eGremlin

@ZeroReborn
when is this supposed to go through. cause man if i just had 22k a year and still stayed at home that would be awesome

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@eGremlin
I think in the spring of 2017

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@BinaryMan
damn, that would be amazing, and would really help a lot of people

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

What's to stop every poorfag, layabout, and NEET in Canada from scrounging together enough money for a bus ticket to Ontario and getting in on this gibsmedat? Not to mention the fucking foreigners who are already going there and getting on welfare.

5mileys
5mileys

@SomethingNew
You'll have to be a Canadian citizen

Bidwell
Bidwell

@ZeroReborn
So, what will happen to jobs that pay under $22k a year?

massdebater
massdebater

It was inevitable. At least they're preparing for this before it's too late.

idontknow
idontknow

@Bidwell
Their wages will go up. Businesses will have to pay people a decent wage, or else they can go fuck themselves.

tfw only 3 yachts instead of 4 because of libruls :(

likme
likme

@5mileys
I'm Canadian, can I quit my job and move to Ontario for free money?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@ZeroReborn
Same here, work 35hrs/week make under 20k/year
Considering doing this. No point working and getting less than what people get off free basic income. Prob only applies to immigrants tho

Playboyize
Playboyize

@likme
Yeah. Have fun with only rent and basic living.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I don't think this will ever happen, or if it does happen it will fail miserably, and the Ontario Liberals know this, they are just afraid they are going to lose the next election so they want to get the poor out to vote. And that actually could work. People who don't pay income tax should not be allowed to vote.

Methshot
Methshot

@Gigastrength
Yeah, all those economists are wrong about this. You know better.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Gigastrength
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/28/universal-basic-income-ontario-poverty-pilot-project-canada

Hope it goes through, never made 22/yr in my life working fulltime

Snarelure
Snarelure

@hairygrape
there was a test run way back and it went something like for every dollar earned the income went down by 50c or something, so basically working plus the basic income would be your best option.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@idontknow
THIS

Most businesses majorly rip employees off while a few people get rich, they'll have to pay a decent wage or nobody will work for them anymore

Emberfire
Emberfire

@TreeEater

I own property in a province that doesn't have any serious control. If this bullshit happens here I will be raising my tenants' rent accordingly.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Emberfire
Yeah, and then the other property managers will undercut you, so you will lose quite a few tenants. Good luck with that.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@ZeroReborn
I'm so glad I don't pay any taxes

Fuck funding this shit

WebTool
WebTool

@ZeroReborn
Any other ontariofags excited about this possible basic income change?

Either this will never happen or it will be an epic catastrophe.

Ontario is the MOST INDEBT SUBNATIONAL IN THE WORLD.

If we do this, it's g fucking g.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Firespawn
Clearly you know nothing about landlords, everyone else is going to be doing the same thing.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@BlogWobbles
Hahaha no

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@BlogWobbles
What is competition, Alex?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Snarelure
This

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@ZeroReborn
How do I become a Canadian citizen. Currently living in USA

Inmate
Inmate

@Crazy_Nice
Convert to Islam and say you hate Canada

idontknow
idontknow

@Gigastrength
I dunno, the agenda is to rack up such an inescapable and enormous debt at all levels of government to coincide with the next global financial collapse justifying martial law and the police state, ushering in a new age technocratic dark age. It's been more or less the plan since 1984 or whatever.

These programs will only benefit the people who will outrage the regular peasantry the most, for example illiterate immigrants, single mothers and also a chance to overhaul the welfare system into some Orwellian wet dream of metadata and spying or something. If you are some swinging dick working full time at minimum wage forget it, they already got you by the balls and will never let go now.

In case you can't tell, I am a bit of a pessimist.

Emberfire
Emberfire

This is a joke lmfao.

If this actually goes through... in additional to people under $50k getting free University.

We're fucking done.

Ontario is the most indebt subnational IN THE WORLD.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

How do you live on 18k $CAD a year ?
is life cheaper in ON than in QC ?
I can't imagine living on that in MTL as a full time worker

Illusionz
Illusionz

@New_Cliche
I live with my parents with very minimal spending

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Illusionz
then you're most likely a student and you're part of the privileged ones out there that can spend their minimum wage income on leasure and non life-essential spending

farquit
farquit

@Emberfire
classic wynne! :^)

5mileys
5mileys

@farquit
I'd suggest shorting the CAD immediately, this cannot go well

w8t4u
w8t4u

@New_Cliche
It's tough my rent is 975 and I make 360 a week on average, I'll never be able to own a car or anything fancy like that or buy clothes that aren't from second hand stores

iluvmen
iluvmen

@w8t4u
It's tough my rent is 975 and I make 360 a week on average, I'll never be able to own a car or anything fancy like that or buy clothes that aren't from second hand stores

These are the people I discuss business and finance with

LOL

likme
likme

@w8t4u
where do you live in ontario that rent is 975?

in london you can get single appartments for 600, and theres family houses(5bdrm) that would end up being around 300 ea.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@iluvmen
This is my first time posting on this board because it was finance related and figured you guys would be better to discuss it with

hairygrape
hairygrape

@likme
Belleville Ontario and I rent a 1 bdrm apartment

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@WebTool
That doesn't actually mean anything user, we have some of the lowest tax rates in the country despite having the most services provided to the most amount of people.

You're just afraid because the media tells you debt bad and you don't know any better.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@hairygrape
Belleville Ontario
damn and its 975?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Poker_Star
Are social programs are literally crumbling.

Healthcare system is a complete mess. University admission averages are like 90%+ for every Uni and major worth a shit (if it becomes free for poorfags it'll only grow higher) due to all the mark inflation

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Deadlyinx
Yeah man cheapest I could find that had utilities included, the rest were 875 without utilities but heat and hydro costs a lot more than 100 a month in winter

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Methnerd
Social programs are literally crumbling
Source?

mark inflation
LOL WUT???

Go back to watching Rebel media vids on youtube, you stupid fuck.

Evilember
Evilember

@Methnerd
Any perceived issue with social programs or the healthcare system has been directly caused by the lack of funding for such programs due to tax cuts.

And I think you need to be reminded, even if you get a free ride at university, you still have to pay living expenses. Higher level education will become cheaper for everyone once we get a single payer for everything that can negotiate, instead of enduring increases every year because fuck you.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Evilember
U wot m8

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Skullbone
LOL go back to voting for the ndp and "muh free things"

fucking loser needs the government to do everything for him

RavySnake
RavySnake

@SniperGod
The more people pay for something, the cheaper that something becomes.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@RavySnake
So if everyone gets 22k a year everything will be way cheaper since we will actually be able to afford to buy things

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Methnerd
due to all the mark inflation
Or maybe Flynn effect is continuing but our curriculum is still designed for rtards

RumChicken
RumChicken

@TurtleCat
That's not what he was referring to at all, but I will bite on this.

If lower class people got 22k a year it would most likely all get spent on living expenses and the additional spending would boost the economy.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

If everyone suddenly gets an additional $22k, won't prices just quickly rise until your purchasing power is back to normal?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@CouchChiller
No that literally defeats the whole purpose

TechHater
TechHater

@CouchChiller
It's not an additional 22k either, it's people who work full time and barely make 18k like me and they'll give me enough so my total income equals 22k a year

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@TechHater
it's people who work full time and barely make 18k like me and they'll give me enough so my total income equals 22k a year

So why would you continue to work if you're getting money for free?

What exactly is stopping people from collecting this free money and working for cash/committing crimes and not paying taxes which leads to this idiotic idea collapsing because it has no sustainability?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@PurpleCharger
Imagine willingly doing nothing productive in your life for 30+ years

That would drive the average person crazy

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@BunnyJinx
Imagine willingly doing nothing productive in your life for 30+ years

Working isn't the only productive thing you can do, though.

You can focus on your hobbies

That would drive the average person crazy
Yeah totally no one abuses welfare lol

I totally bet the NEETs on Veeky Forums wouldn't be all over this.

Btw what's stopping 6 gorillion immigrants that come every year to getting this free basic income without contributing a time to the system?

Logistically this is the stupidest idea ever. I can't even begin to imagine how this would work.

So only Ontario gets this?

What if people move here from other provinces?

What if rent is tremendously increased to compensate for people having a guaranteed almost $2k a month in their pocket extra?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@New_Cliche
You can focus on your hobbies
Good, people will focus on their hobbies and make money by becoming elite compared to the international competition

Btw what's stopping 6 gorillion immigrants that come every year to getting this free basic income without contributing a time to the system?
The fact that you need to have a job or family in order to immigrate successfully
Ontario already has 40% of the population in Canada, do you think the other provinces will depopulate and move here? Because it would take another 5-10 million useless people (the entire population of Alberta) for something bad to happen.

What if rent is tremendously increased to compensate for people having a guaranteed almost $2k a month in their pocket extra?
Then more people will buy property and rent it out, making rent cheaper because of additional supply

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Need_TLC
The fact that you need to have a job or family in order to immigrate successfully

lol

explain the millions of pajeets roaming the streets of the GTA. Brampton is practically New Delhi

this is a joke, only retarded NEETs who make threads here about "I have depression/anxiety how can i get free welfare so i can buy more anime figurines and steam games plz" are happy about this.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Lunatick
If you live in the GTA you would realize the pajeets all have very high paying jobs and their kids become red pilled after one generation.

Canadian public schools do an excellent job at whitewashing

viagrandad
viagrandad

@MPmaster
Some people like the Somalis literally just hop on welfare and don't get off

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@viagrandad
There really aren't that many Somalis in Canada, most are Elite Pajeets or from the islands with a Western work ethic

askme
askme

@VisualMaster
So I guess you wont government to impose price control as well?

Inmate
Inmate

@askme
The price of things won't change because that would make the 22k basic living income totally pointless

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@MPmaster
Pajeets and Chinese are skilled, hardworking, and employable, but the nogs from Africa are coming here as refugees, no such requirement exists for them.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@lostmypassword
Niggers literally have no determination to work at all. I've worked with a lot of them and all they do is complain about the wage we make and than quit within a week and go back on welfare

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Inmate
You must be trolling. You got me.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Gigastrength
OK retard what would the point be to implement a basic income if the price of things goes up?

Techpill
Techpill

@Deadlyinx
That's the thing, the basic income IS pointless. Queen Dyke knows that no self-respecting Ontario taxpayer is going to vote Liberal in the next election, so she's throwing this out there to pick up support from the poorfags who dont' understand economics and don't normally vote in elections.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Techpill
The whole point is so people have more money to live out of poverty you mong. Raising the price of things would make the basic income pointless

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@PackManBrainlure
Piss off.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@PackManBrainlure
Raising the price of things would make the basic income pointless

No shit idiot.

IT IS Pointless. Do you honestly believe you can just start giving out free money, no questions asked and things won't change whatsoever? You're a moron.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Snarelure
Yeah obviously you moron

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Illusionz
what a surprise that retards who think basic income is a good idea are also completely delusional and uneducated.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Nude_Bikergirl
You're clearly retarded and have no clue why they're making a basic income, learn to Google kiddo

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Soft_member
works fulltime and only makes $18k/yr

LOL. How is that even possible? I'm pretty sure that's below minimum wage.

Try getting a real job retard

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Snarelure
they should give coupons or stamps. this way if you want some bread, you use your bread coupon for the week. too bad if you have to get to the lime, and tough luck if it runs out before you get your ration.

i heard it works marvels in cuba.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Evil_kitten
It is a "real job" except the pay in this country is so low people work full time and are still in poverty

askme
askme

@w8t4u
No you're just dumb and useless

What's your job?

What responsibilities does your job have? Shaking salt on the fries and operating the deepfryer?

Bidwell
Bidwell

can i move to ontario to get free money?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@askme
Nah I actually have to do labor all day which you probably wouldn't last an hour doing because your arms and shoulders would give out

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@hairygrape
Good thing I actually got an education and I'm capable of being more than a machine.

How does it feel that you're so stupid and worthless all you can do is physical labour which requires no intellect and something that immigrants do for dirt cheap when they just come to the country?

How does it feel that you're so dumb that you're not capable of doing anything more?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Carnalpleasure
@Carnalpleasure
How does it feel being so weak and useless that you can't even lift anything

Emberfire
Emberfire

make 23.5k a year from my "fun money" job
will probably end up lowering my pay, claiming "THE GUBBERMINT LET US"
Fuck it. a fun money job isn't worth it.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Emberfire
Drug dealer confirmed

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Skullbone
But I can

I just don't need to do break my back and joints doing it all the time as a job.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@BlogWobbles
You can't brah, youd last 3 days and be all wahhhh wahhhh my muscles ache wahhhh give me an easier job pleeaaseee

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@RumChicken
I don't get paid minimum wage and I don't need to work physically

Whereas you're forced to because you're incapable of doing anything else.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@AwesomeTucker
Must suck to not even be able to do a minimum wage job eh brah, and you wonder why I'm pissed because of 18k a year busting my arms and shoulders literally

likme
likme

@RumChicken
So he would do literally what you are doing?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@idontknow
you might be right breh

Snarelure
Snarelure

You know canada is gonna be an economic powerhouse once we borrow and give away free money then legalize marijuana

freeweed side economics

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Snarelure
You know it buddy

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Snarelure
/thread
thanks trudeau for the solid business plan, always going to work no more oil sands for me

idontknow
idontknow

It's wonderful that the provincial government is getting the ball moving on this just as Ottawa is planning to bring in half a million niggers and shitskins a year, most of whom will likely end up in the GTA.

Methshot
Methshot

@idontknow
It's wonderful that the provincial government is getting the ball moving on this just as Ottawa is planning to bring in half a million niggers and shitskins a year, most of whom will likely end up in the GTA.

topkok

Gg Canada

Short CAD

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Methshot
it will be ok because the CAD was never ok to begin with

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@TreeEater
I expect .50 by 2018 Q2

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Emberburn
What's wrong with trying to make money for yourself as much as legally possible?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Sharpcharm
Dat b immoral man!

Don't expect anything from this subhuman. He outed himself as a labor slave lol

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Does everybody just get 22k or is everyone guaranteed 22k i.e. you make 18k so you get 4k over the course of a year?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Carnalpleasure
Get off your high horse pal. Not everyone works a fancy office job and you need to accept that. No need to turn this into a dick waving contest.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@BinaryMan
All I know is im going to be working for cash and investing everything into shorting the canadian shithole economy lewl

iluvmen
iluvmen

Wait so I'm in BC but can I just move to Ontario and get free money? Or would there be some requirements like having to have been an Ontario resident for a certain period of time?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@hairygrape
You can get an apartment in downtown toronto for $1000.00

1-100 bedbug to CAD ratio though

Nojokur
Nojokur

@hairygrape
Why would anyone want to live in a big city? I find belleville is too busy and chaotic compared to hornpayne where I'm from

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Nojokur
Why would anyone want to live in a big city?

For more opportunities, maybe? Fuck off, snowflake.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@PurpleCharger
Its supplemental user. Theyre not just giving everyone 22k. Read the post.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Fried_Sushi
Yeah but big cities are way too busy and loud it's ridiculous in big cities

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Nojokur
Why would anyone want to live in a big city?

for jobs maybe/

not everyone wants to work part time in a shit stor ein the middle of nowhere or work on a farm you dumb fuck ing ape shit

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Booteefool
moving to somewhere you can't stand just for a job

Fuck that the further away from the city the better in my opinion

5mileys
5mileys

@Nude_Bikergirl
This

The amount of retards in this thread is baffling

likme
likme

@Boy_vs_Girl
Yeah, it shouldn't matter that you can make a living wage in the city. Why worry about that shit when you can count on everyone else to subsidize your lifestyle. Faggot.

Methshot
Methshot

@Boy_vs_Girl
that's why you're so poor

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@likme
Well if they won't pay a living wage someone has to because you can't live in a first world country and be poor

eGremlin
eGremlin

@5mileys
Nearly 40 years of right wing economic conditioning will do that to you

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@VisualMaster
what the fuck is a living wage

lol

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Stark_Naked
At least 1500 a month is needed to live comfortably considering rent is usually 900 to 1000 dollars a month, I'd live really comfortable with 1750 a month

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Crazy_Nice
what if these prices increase as is usually the case when minimum wage for example increases

Should the government implement price controls?

@Crazy_Nice
I'd live really comfortable with 1750 a month

That's not very much by the way.

Have you tried asking for a raise at your job or looking for a new one? What field is your degree in?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Firespawn
more people move to ontario for basic income
more people have money
don't raise rents when demand for rent increases

lol you should leave this board.

WebTool
WebTool

@Spazyfool
what happens to prices with increased demand and no increase in supply?

You need to go too

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Bidwell

you don't even know how basic income works

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Nojokur
I feel you dude I've been thinking of moving away from Toronto to a smaller city / town, I just stay here because of friends.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

The point of citizen's income is to remove the wage gap between people on welfare and people in low income jobs. The point being that you're never on welfare technically, but the more you work, the more you earn.

People are afraid/not willing to get a job unless it significantly boosts their cash flow. If you lose your benefits, getting a min w job isnt worth it.

Ofc inflation, but that's not really an issue. It's a kind of cash in hand tax deduction for low income individuals (which most countries already have, in one for or another)

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Methshot
The majority of economists didnt even see the fucking housing crisis coming, leftist economists are like religious priests, they just carry forward the dogma.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

They should be paying anyone who works at least 50k to live in canada

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Stark_Naked
This

FastChef
FastChef

You guys must be retarded to think that a basic income will somehow magically increase the supply of goods. For example, if a city has ten million houses with average rent at 2k/mo, and there's 15 million people, giving people 2k/mo so "everyone can afford rent" won't magically increase the supply of houses to 15 million since that's fixed by the amount if steel, wood, roof tiles, etc. In other words, the supply is fixed by physics, not finance. If there's only ten houses to go around, only ten million people will get houses, no matter how hard you try to "redistribute wealth." In fact, the amount of stuff the average person gets will probably go down, since everyone will quit their jobs because "hurt durr I have free income now."

Illusionz
Illusionz

@FastChef
Doesn't work like that you moron the point is so people who work full time will get 22k a year

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Illusionz
Even if nobody quit their jobs, do you really think giving everyone an extra 22k/yr would be let everyone consume an extra 22k/yr of goods? If the economic output doesn't change (in terms of the physical goods), it doesn't matter if everyone has a basic income or not - the same amount of stuff exists before and after basic income is implemented. It will get distributed the same either way, just with a change in "price" to compensate.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Lord_Tryzalot
Doesn't matter everything will stay the same price, just because people get more money makes no difference of the price of things

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Carnalpleasure
If you are trolling: good job
But if not you deserve to be poor

I have a question for you
If everyone gets a billion dollars, would everyone be able to afford a mansion?

FastChef
FastChef

@VisualMaster
Yeah obviously because a mansion is like 2 million at most

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@ZeroReborn
as a fellow ontario'n
I fucking hate this, I hate guaranteed income. it's pure shit. I get it helps but mercy you're producing money out of the fucking air for anyone who's 18? what the fuck- all those shits in uni will be making more money than a fair chunk of adults.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Bidwell
Are you autistic?

The people who work those jobs will get an additional 22 thousand dollars a year.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Bidwell
Either wages will go up, or people will quit. This will be the only leverage the working class has in years. Guess liberals did something good for once.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@FastChef
Even if 20% of people receiving basic income will go on to become entrepreneurs and grow their businesses, they'll be able to carry the 80% layabouts and produce more goods and services.

In reality almost everyone keeps working though, there were already small scale experiments. Its a great thing.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Stark_Naked
age
mattering to how much you make
Found the Jane and Finch resident

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@ZeroReborn
I'm really happy about this desu
I'll finally be able to actually start saving money and won't be forced to eat ramen for the rest of the month in the event my eczema forces me to miss a day of work.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@RavySnake
My fucking god, have you ever even heard of supply and demand ?

idontknow
idontknow

@ZeroReborn
Housing prices are bound to skyrocket in Ontario then

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Soft_member
demand goes up, supply goes up, suppliers compete for demand, prices go down

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Playboyize
Well kindly explain to me where the influx of supply is going to be coming from?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Sharpcharm
Iktf man

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@VisualMaster
@FastChef
This thread is pure gold.

whereismyname
whereismyname

If we had someone like Paul Martin running the province, I would be excited.

But since we have Wynne, it's going to be a complete failure and run the province further into the ground.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

reminder that basic income and automation are the death of social mobility

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Crazy_Nice
social mobility is a joke anyways.

Just another pipe dream to keep you at work.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@PackManBrainlure
Digits decide if it's keks will

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Sir_Gallonhead
social mobility is a joke anyways
Sure it is, bitterguy.
grew up middle class
not even 40, now collecting six figures solely from investments

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@ZeroReborn
This will absolutely destroy your economy, fucking idiots.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Stark_Naked
Never had it explained this way. This is best as that's one of the major hurdles of people getting off benefits: low or negative marginal gain from marginal labor

Lunatick
Lunatick

@CouchChiller
[citation needed]

girlDog
girlDog

@Nojokur
big city
belleville

massdebater
massdebater

@girlDog
Big enough to be chaotic

whereismyname
whereismyname

@New_Cliche
Life is way more expensive in Ontario relative to Quebec

Supergrass
Supergrass

This might be the most retarded thread I've read this month

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Supergrass
competition is hard, I've seen stuff as bad as this in /r9k/ and /fit/

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Sir_Gallonhead
Yeah I know but me, Chew Kok, and Pajeet will have degrees in non-automatable jobs and our salaries will rise substantially because they will be the only jobs that matter. And then we'll call you white trash forever after

SniperGod
SniperGod

@PackManBrainlure
Supply and demand dictate that prices will increase with increased demand.

If you first have 100 customers buying meat and then all the poor fags get enough money to buy meat so you have 200 customers trying to buy the same thing, the price goes up accordingly because you only have so much inventory/man hours/cooler space.

It's not rocket science.

The only people who would benefit are people who have absolutely nothing when it gets implemented. This is actually what they're going for, but people think that a little extra money introduced will help them when, in fact, it won't due to rising prices.

Wow. If they have restrictions on who receives, this might solve the
poverty problem despite its obvious economic drawbacks.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@SniperGod
At the very initial point, maybe.

Basic income will jolt the control system into another state though - hopefully the one where overall all 200 people are more productive and overall there is more meat/products/etc on the market.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Supergrass
Rich confirmed

happy_sad
happy_sad

@ZeroReborn
you faggots can't even agree on a free pension like the swiss?
at least here in the USA we make plans to fuck everyone over proper every decade.
if you're gonna do it do it right, print up the surplus and hand it out equally.

all this pussyfooting around is just a waste of time.

@Playboyize
so ontario did it full on, way to go ontario.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@idontknow
Why are people like you even on this board? You obviously have no experience in business whatsoever and apparently are satisfied with sitting around doing nothing and leeching off people who actually work while pretending basic income is your "right."
How does it feel to be of literally no worth to society and to choose to be a nobody?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@ZeroReborn
Source faggot

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@AwesomeTucker
Probably just to bait people.
The board is constantly getting shit up with whiny threads. "Working sucks", "Life isn't fair", "Why can't I get paid to jerk off to anime porn", etc.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

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