Yeah, except if you actually applied any logic to the changes you would comprehend how the opposite is true.
We got our baseline crit nerfed. Pyretic Incantation got nerfed by more than half, and thats a CORE mechanic. Fire blast got nerfed.
Basically, the entire concept of the spec got shit on. All the changes did is make crit more important, not less.
TL;DR you don't know how a fire mage operates, and why the spec got messed with even more than it was already. EVERYONE is going arcane.
Christian Ward
>no ww changes >tod cloak got nerfed time to switch to rogue
Mason Turner
Um you forgot in the OP
Brayden Mitchell
OUTLAW OR SURVIVAL FOR MY ALT?
Hudson Brown
>moonkin buffs >tfw you posted in the wrong thread
It's not really good buffs but at this point, I'm happy to receive anything.
>buffed shooting stars which is a talent competing with the more useful Astral Communion for AP generation >soul of the forest got buffed to reduce starfall cost by 20 instead of 10 but it's competing with Incarnation:COE >Stellar drift now increases starfall damage by 60% up from 20% but it's competing with Nature's Balance >stellar flare got buffed to do more damage and cost 5 less AP but it's competing with Incarnation:COE >warrior of elune is still shit tier for pve but eh
So they buffed the shitty talents that no one ever uses and didn't fix the problems with the class itself. That starfall reduction cost should have been made standard instead of in a talent. At least the stellar flare buff looks decent especially if you have Oneth's Intuition.
Hudson Mitchell
>Raids about to start >4 of us cant log in due to Bnet being down for live maintenance >RL screaming at us for having "shit internet" >Someone logs out to test, cant get back in >Screaming we werent on half an hour early Well gquit it is
Ethan Morris
Um you forgot in the OP
Christian James
Who is the sexiest elf?
Easton Walker
That one with the long ass album
Levi Reyes
Sorry player characters are not allowed.
Jayden Morris
Valeera.
>Meaty thighs. >Big butt. >Big tits. >Cute. >Sexy ass voice. >Clever >Violent >Dresses like a battle bimbo. She hits all of the qualifications for "sexiest" elf.
Nathaniel Campbell
And meanwhile Pyroblast and Fireball got buffed to try and offset that.
Andrew Morales
So looking at Enhanced Life Tap, doesn't this basically completely make Contagion pointlessly wasting a spot on the tree if you manage to keep the buff up since it'll be across the board damage percentage increase instead of just an increase interaction between UA and other spells?
Connor Ramirez
Let's have a moments silence for that one poor soul in every guild who stubbornly stuck to his warlock and is now on suicide watch
Adrian Stewart
:^)
class fantasy m8
Christian Hernandez
Baseline buff, HEAVY crit nerf.
Guess why Pyro was good.
Protip: Crit chaining and crit hits, both of which got nerfed.
Nathan Lopez
protip: fire was op as shit and needed nerfs.
Parker Perez
Anyone know where that album is?
Jacob Sullivan
but warlock is perfectly fine
Oliver James
t. fucking moron
Wyatt Richardson
people like you make me laugh your complaining is literally the reason fire mage is as strong as it is, and yet you can't grasp how they work or why they're considered so strong keep cryin' bitch nigga, and while your at it, mind explaining why they nerfed pyroblast last patch then made the legendary bracers useless? I'd really love to hear your take on balance
Jacob Lopez
cry me a fucking river you spoiled shit. if this was up to me i'd keep you cunts in the gutter for the entire xpack.
Lincoln Martinez
>fire does really well on one fight with a bunch of pointless adds to pad on >complete dogshit on everything else
If you're getting beat by a fire mage you're a shitter tbqh.
Ian Stewart
that spot is reserved for unholy dks
Aaron Murphy
>It was OP!
>"It objectively wasn't"
>CRY MORE LOL, FUCK YOUR CLASS
Yeah, you and your trade chat screamer buddies are probably the worst people in WoW.
>log on this morning to check class hall cache, legendary ilvl bumped up to 910 >neato >log on just now to do emissary >back to 895
did I miss something
Austin Davis
deposit your cash
Ethan Long
>fire wasn't op since launch >fire wasn't too well-rounded compared to literally every other dps spec >now it finally gets fucked the way it should have been over two months ago mage entitlement is something else entirely.
Robert Morris
>paladin getting anything but buffs ever
nice yo-ke
Caleb Scott
you're about to get banned
Jace Morris
open a ticket before your account gets flagged.
Owen Edwards
>using the ilvl exploit
ROFL
youre done for kiddo
Jackson Rogers
It was never OP.
Its single target was always absolute trash outside of the bracers, which should have been nerfed.
I get that you're a little kiddie who doesn't understand this, but maybe you will when you're older.
SPriest isn't even getting meaningfully touched but thats okay because fuck Fire having burst right
Michael Diaz
for what reason?
Hudson Wood
>queues blowing out to 30+ minutes >subs dipping below 2 mil >only groups for half the content is real money/gold carries >cash shop expanding next patch >PVE and PVP balance never been so bad >population never been this unbalanced >Nost untouchable by blizztard in the motherland >stress test was an unqualified success >forced to hunt down streamers to try and stem the tide of people leaving retail for vanilla private
Have you signed up for Nost 2.0 yet bros?
Andrew Wood
>arcane gets basically free IF for Missiles and evo >% mana cost increase per arcane charge changed from 125% to 60% so we don't need mastery like a madman >new 1st row talent reads "your best spell does 60% more dmg" >a slight nerf to Overpowered (100% to 70% in both)
Who else /feelinggood/ here?
Caleb Carter
>wow this class design is really nice and it's fun to play and quite well rounded >IT DESERVES TO GET FUCKED IN THE ASS AARG I HATE IT you sure the entitled one here isn't you?
John Price
What exploit?
Juan Roberts
Looking forward to this post every thread for the next 6 months.
Bentley Long
can you autistc fucks tell me if its worth getting back into wow? i used to play during wotlk, and tbc
Isaiah Flores
Arcane's balance is as unstable as its concept.
Lincoln Jenkins
>hunt down streamers wait what? I didn't hear about this. This might inhibit my plan to stream Nost wow if Blizzards actually going to do something about it.
Kayden Hughes
>SPriest isn't even getting meaningfully touched Mostly because it has idiotic wind-up time, is useless in aoe situations, only ever gets to shine in execute phases and all the meme "SPRIEST DOES 900K DPS" comes from multidot cleaving. Also the insanity drain on VF got fucked with to the extent of enforcing a different stat priority lately and ensuring they don't get to stay in VF for 3 VT's too often. But okay.
Alexander Williams
no, wait for nost in a few weeks
Christian Kelly
you're being meme'd on
Cooper Roberts
who is this beautiful female
Michael Lee
Oh, oh whats that?
The "900K DPS SPriest" shit is a meme?
Funny. Almost like I've heard that exact same shit about a certain warm ranged caster..
Juan Lewis
whaoh cute gril
Jackson Richardson
The ride never ends, but right now we're kinda on a roll I guess. Still wish we had Quickening, that shit is fun and made us somehiw unique.
Christian Mitchell
im in cuckmerica i cant play eu servers
Colton Bennett
That would be my lovely wife.
Josiah Smith
WHO /BOOMIE/ HERE?
these buffs
WHERE WE AT ?!?!
Elijah Phillips
>they actually buffed guardians
The absolute madmen. Thanks for replacing the useless 3 sec incapacitate that breaks on damage to a 3 sec fear. Other buffs are to shitty talents no one uses so they're not really as important.
Liam Parker
/our guy/ Towelliee made twitch shutdown that faggot alexensual stream a couple of weeks ago.
Christian Davis
>Ret got buffs
Adam Russell
What the fuck happened between arms and fury? basically the same dps
Isaac Johnson
>report bug/exploited tied to resto druids to blizzard earlier this month >the bug/exploit is still there and druid players are unknowingly taking advantage of it
The fuck is the point of the bug report system?
Carter Sullivan
>A fight allows shadow priests to use their biggest and most gamechanging cooldown twice >They can blow it early and then drop it again while multidotting to keep spirits flowing for 120+s of Void Form >And because they do this on one specific encounter with specific mechanics, this means they're turbo op Wew lad.
Yeah, its TOTALLY only multidot meme fights that SPriests are OP on..........
Alexander Davis
who /ww/ here? oh wait no one cause we're fucking useless and no one wants us anymore not even for m+ when frost dk and havoc do everything we do but better
Connor Ortiz
Almost like the fact that Fire Mages can ignite every tentacle and pad the fuck out of Xavius too just by doing their core ST rotation, this makes them turbo OP..
Oh wait no logs of ToV without all the godamn trash and padding show them for what they are; mediocre outside of M+
really fires the neurons
Tyler James
...
Gabriel Rivera
found an addon a few days ago that allowed you to make extra bars that opened up into more bars. I remember it being circular like they have in a few other games for commands
Anyone know?
Matthew Jackson
Right here mate They're not actually good buffs since no one uses those talents that much but I'm still happy they gave us attention. They're making you choose to be less shit at multi-target at the cost of single target damage.
Choosing SOTF instead of Incarnation is a tough choice in mythics+. Trash packs or bosses. Choice depends on dungeon I guess. Stellar Drift might be better now for those with Oneth's Intuition but I'll wait for the number crunchers. Stellar Flare is in the same case as Stellar Drift. Better with Oneth's Intuition.
The buffs seem really good if you have oneth's intution. For most moonkins, it won't change much. Unless you can change talents mid-dungeon. Fuck, they really have to let us change talents mid-dungeon.
>tfw beating other classes as affli with much lower ilvl in raids Am i decent or my guild is just bad
Logan Ross
whoah howd u know :^)
Jacob Torres
SPriest >has idiotic wind-up time >useless in aoe situations >only ever gets to shine in execute phases >all the meme "SPRIEST DOES 900K DPS" comes from multidot cleaving
wow man, that sounds really similar to my... Fire Mage >insane burst with no wind-up, but falls off HARD without Combustion/RoP >only really useful in AoE situations, straight up awful in long, ST fights >the "FIRE MAGE IS OP PLS NERF!!!1" comes from shitters opening up recount in their BRH +2 run and seeing the resident fire mage living bomb 15 adds
SHITS CRAAZY MAN whoaoosoasdaishqwdjasd
Benjamin Roberts
is alch/herb profitable?
Thomas Thompson
>Classes that were expected to snowball hard due to their scaling are at the top What a surprise.
Brandon Rogers
>he doesn't exclusively play human males >he mains anything other than a Paladin, Warrior, Rogue, or Monk
it's an absolute kind of disgusting
Nathan Myers
Why is the timewalking weekly giving me a normal EN cache instead of a heroic like it did last time?
Landon Flores
Do you miss her?
Kayden Russell
>shitter trying to pretend spriests aren't broken as fuck on literally everything
The only fight spriests aren't ahead by 9 billion percent on is nythendra, and that's because the MC fucks you. You can still get away with retarded DPS if you get lucky.
Spriests single handedly trivialize DPS checks with how much damage they do in surrender. Bringing an spriest or two trivializes any DPS check blizzard can throw at us.
Benjamin Foster
>870 ilevel >balance druid >10k haste >250k single target on the dummy over 5m >no dreamcatcher
WHAT DO THEY WANT ME TO DO?! I'M LITERALLY DOING THE ROTATION PERFECTLY! HOW DO I DO NOT GARBAGE DPS?!?
Jacob Carter
I hate to say this even though its true but the chest quality is actually random
Chase Taylor
post some pandASS
Nolan Turner
then respec arcane and stop bitching. oh no, mages are shit for a change. the sky is falling. fucking learn to deal with it you entitled baby.
Liam Gutierrez
whats the easiest way to get marks of honor? or is it just luck
Jason Walker
yeah fury of elune buff doesn't address the problems the spell has, the incredible low radius and long CD
I like the shooting stars buff a lot
Juan Foster
Samefag
Mason Diaz
what's a melee dps that still prvoides some decent utility?
Kayden Gomez
>Nost players are too busy shitting up /wowg/ to actually play their "better" version of the game Its like dota and league all over again.
William Phillips
>Its okay to make a spec that has insane investment into shit because reasons
fuck you, Blizzdrone.
Carter Perry
>implying >she 's gone
Lucas Perry
>tfw 872 affliction lock >340k on 400ms easily Just reroll :^)
Brody Brown
Well that's fucking stupid. The normal gear would have to highend titanforge to even be considered an upgrade
Juan Sullivan
but no?
Caleb Reed
>implying I'm not thrilled at the fire mage changes >implying I'm bitching >implying you're not an even bigger baby am laffin' at your life senpai go take someone else's bait and NEVER respond to my posts again IDIOT