Why is it that only high end sports/super cars have rear mounted engines, Veeky Forums?

iluvmen
iluvmen

Why is it that only high end sports/super cars have rear mounted engines, Veeky Forums?

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http://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-tesla-model-s-achieves-best-safety-rating-of-any-car-ever-tested-2013-8?IR=T
TreeEater
TreeEater

@iluvmen
What is the Toyota MR2?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Why would a car company manufacture an economy car with a rear-mounted engine? What makes you think this is a good idea?

Snarelure
Snarelure

Ruins practicality
Makes it strictly a single purpose vehicle
Most people can't afford to have a garage queen

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Snarelure
A Boxster and MR2 are super practical for their size nigga

eGremlin
eGremlin

@RumChicken
they are not practical in general

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Snarelure
what makes it single purpose? Forgive my ignorance but I have no idea what the engineering reasoning is for rear-mounted engines to begin with. Isn't it purely weight distribution?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@iluvmen
compared to FF FR and RR the following will be a cluster fuck
hydraulic lines
gear shift linkages
water and air cooling capability
@TreeEater
discontinued

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Harmless_Venom
Have a fucking cayman

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

a Twingo is now a high end / super car
ok

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@viagrandad
more like gayman

SniperWish
SniperWish

@iluvmen
it's much harder to pass front impact tests when there isn't a hunk of metal in front. as they get more strict, MRs get more exclusive

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@SniperWish
Nope.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

^-^

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Fried_Sushi
the last hope for honda

Booteefool
Booteefool

@SniperWish
It's actually easier. It used to be a huge problem that the engine would get thrown into the driver's cabin and turn your legs into ground beef, but with no engine in the front you've got more room to play with crumple zones.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@iluvmen
Because a rear mounted engine is no longer practical

takes2long
takes2long

@Booteefool
this assumes that the front end is as long as a front engined car with the same engine size, which is almost never the case.

Firespawn
Firespawn

The real question is why are supercars so damned BIG?

I'd be happier than a pig in shit in something like an MX-5 with a 320hp 2.3L turbo at 2700lb.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@SniperWish
If an engine up front was pertinent to crash safety then wed have a lot of incidents where the engine comes through the firewal

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Firespawn
wide tires
usually AWD
usually "V" engines
to keep the car CG low, they need to make it wider to fit shit

also supercars look much smaller in person than photos make them seem

JunkTop
JunkTop

@SniperWish
the safest car you can buy is mid engined

http://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-tesla-model-s-achieves-best-safety-rating-of-any-car-ever-tested-2013-8?IR=T

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Firespawn

Super cars are rolling examples of people who put their income into their car or super rich dick heads flaunting their cash.

They are big to scream 'LOOK AT ME, FUCKERS! MY DICK IS BIGGER THAN YOUR DICK! BRING ME YOUR WHORES SO I CAN GIVE THEM PROPER SEED!'

I like 'em, but I am under no illusion as to what they are.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@JunkTop
it's not engined at all

likme
likme

@DeathDog
some high end FR has a tensioned cable that cuts though the engine mounts when the car detects a crash
then the engine and transmission just sail under the floor pan

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@likme
car detects crash
fires explosive bolts on hood and engine mounts
rocket motors under engine ignite and it ejects
make it happen, auto industry

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Burnblaze
engine reaches optimum altitude
deploys drogue

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Snarelure
Ruins practicality
Frunk
Single purpose vehicle
Four seats and frunks are possible

The real problem is snap oversteer and daring to brake in a corner

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Harmless_Venom
gear shift linkages
2017

if you're still pressing a clutch pedal and moving a lever that is physically connected to the transmission you're a luddite and should not be asking for luddite features in a high end car.
stick is for NASCAR rednecks.

takes2long
takes2long

@Lord_Tryzalot
That's why you learn to drive first

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@SomethingNew
cant see any negative effect in making a wiring loom longer

Snarelure
Snarelure

@PackManBrainlure
What makes you think this is a good idea?
Because it stows away neatly under the rear passenger seat.

@Snarelure
@eGremlin
@Sir_Gallonhead
You tell me pic related isn't practical. Could've been even moreso with a decent frunk.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Snarelure

That's OK. I've always thought the 911 would always have been better as a shooting brake, instead of the current Super Beetle back end.

But then again I'm a fan of the Z4 hatch.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Deadlyinx
it would be pretty negligible and you would still get faster shifts

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Crazy_Nice
not so negligible in terms of routing and fault tolerance
or for the purposes of mass production

Inmate
Inmate

New Twingo
Smart Fortwo

askme
askme

@iluvmen
Those are mid engines for the most part, and take up a lot of interior room.

@PackManBrainlure
Oh, Tatra tried that, back in the 30s. It worked great, until Czechoslovakia got invaded and Volkswagen stole all their research and turned it into the Beetle.
It's fine for RWD, but when you can just make the car FWD and give it better handling in adverse weather AND get all the mechanical stuff in the front away from the cabin to prevent noise and absorb impact energy instead of pistoning through the occupants or acting like a pendulum on fast corners?
FF is superior for 90% of cars.

likme
likme

@askme
This. Sports cars should be RWD, besides that FWD is superior.

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