I need dat truck bro

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

i need dat truck bro

All urls found in this thread:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_classification
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/passat-viii/which-model/brochures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-iMNnvhwg4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8P5vGcf-NU
Emberburn
Emberburn

/thread

RumChicken
RumChicken

@PackManBrainlure
Should also lift the truck for those speed bumps the mall.

eGremlin
eGremlin

where are the Muslims raping your sister tho, Euro shit?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Also don't forget to buy the most expensive trim.

think of the children

Nojokur
Nojokur

who the fuck buys new furniture every few years?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Nojokur
People who shit out babies constantly

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@eGremlin
sadly im not from germany/france/uk so no muslims here mate.
besides i dont know how americans can laugh at eu given their colossal population of blacks/mexicans.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Nojokur
swedecucks

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Nojokur
people with money

w8t4u
w8t4u

I like both

Methnerd
Methnerd

@PackManBrainlure
What is the appeal of wagons? What scenario would require you to use all the space in your wagon? Is it for people with kids?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Methnerd
when i travel from home to city where i study i often fill up my wagon, mostly tools, electronics. its just much more convenient than a sedan while being more or less the same size. its not as bloated as SUV or pickups.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@PackManBrainlure
How the hell you gonna tow your boat/trailer with a 2.0L wagon that weighs less than what you're towing?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Nojokur
I work with a guy that buys new furniture every fucking year.
Every summer he redecorates a room.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Firespawn
By not buying the 2.0L engine?
Who even buys a car that big with an engine that small?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Firespawn
strange because in europe it is quite common to see wagons/crossovers/suvs pulling boats/trailers.
200-250 hp is enough usually.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Firespawn
everyone in america has a boat/huge trailer

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Methnerd
A few points;
kids
Strollers and whatnot
travel
Tall luggage, more luggage
music
Small subwoofer in the back carries way better than a gigantic one in a sedan
animals
Dog cages rarely fit sedans, and the boot of a sedan can be very stuffy and hot

girlDog
girlDog

@Stark_Naked
animals
tfw travelling europe in your wagon with family and dog
dog sitting on pillow in comfy fort made out of bags and suitcases

farquit
farquit

@Methnerd
Camping nigga.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@BlogWobbles
@StrangeWizard
There's more to towing than just the engine. It has a lot to do with the weight of the vehicle itself and the brakes as well. When you're towing something close to the gross weight of your vehicle, the trailer tends to control the vehicle instead of the other way around. If you're towing something substantial you for sure want something with a bit of weight to it.

@Nojokur
You don't?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

rayp van > small truck > wagon > big truck

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@kizzmybutt
When I drove around a 5 ton trailer in a touareg v10, I often forgot the trailer was there until i had to park. Even them sometimes I forgot.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Nude_Bikergirl
implying Europe at whole isn't a cuck place
LOL the Muslims come from poland and spread everywhere, enjoy it muhammad

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@BlogWobbles
america is literally ground zero for cuckolding, feminism, lgbt and so on. end yourself.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Firespawn
B-but the ads all say I need a 500HP V10 diesel to tow my canoe to the lake!!!

I see the marketing brainwashing works well with claps.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@BlogWobbles
Isn't the US and notably California the center of all SJWs, BLM, gangs and other shits? In comparison we're good.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@PurpleCharger
@Stark_Naked

t. diesel Punto """"tow"""" truck

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Burnblaze
Exactly, because a Touareg V10 is a 3-ton vehicle with over 500 LBS of TORKS. Perfectly suited for towing.

@CodeBuns
I'm telling you, try actually towing some shit like that with a 4-banger in a 3500 LBS car. It's fucking nerve-racking towing over what your vehicle should.

farquit
farquit

@BlogWobbles
LOL the Muslims come from poland

???

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Lunatick
uhhhh what do
call him a fiat owner that'll show him!

Methnerd
Methnerd

@farquit
poland is right next to turkey lol? do you even know the routes they take to get to Europe?
@kizzmybutt
lol that's all your poor ass can afford

Flameblow
Flameblow

@PackManBrainlure
That is the happiest blobeye wrx I've ever seen.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@BlogWobbles
from poland

Bruh, poland is going strong against those filthy bastards

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Methnerd
poland is right next to turkey lol?
Dude, if you don't even know basic geography and finish your sentences with "lol", you shouldn't be here posting what you laughably call your opinions LOL.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Methnerd
LOL the Muslims come from poland

???

girlDog
girlDog

not going full 'Merica and buying an Excursion

7.3L turbodiesel option
3/4 ton truck towing capacity
size of an apartment, can hold all your shit dry and locked inside
three rows of seats to hold bitches and friends
Why haven't you bought one of America's greatest creations?

happy_sad
happy_sad

Who else /small truck/?

summer daily driver is 1990 shortbed regular cab SS 454 Chevy

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Methnerd
inb4 classic american "i was only pretending to be retarded!"

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@girlDog
Shit, forgot pic

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@girlDog
HELL YEAH

Emberburn
Emberburn

@girlDog
Single digit MPG

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@girlDog
Who said I hadn't?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Emberburn
Actually it's fairly decent mpg and the tank is so huge you can go like 1000 kilometres on one tank.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@PackManBrainlure
1.2 liter meme diesel sedan
big fuckhuge v8

is this even a choice?

FastChef
FastChef

@BlogWobbles
the hell happened to your roof

Supergrass
Supergrass

@FastChef
Rusting stripe:^)

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@FastChef
@Supergrass
I dunno

I'll come clean and confess my sins; its not mine. Belongs to the tenants in the downstairs apartment of my parents house.

I haven't asked him about it, but I guess its been damaged at what point, which is why I guess he got it so cheap. Its rust free elsewhere, has all the equipment and the 7.3TD

MPmaster
MPmaster

@CodeBuns
Whoever towed this with a Passat is fucking retarded. Just because it can pull the trailer forward at 20 without blowing up doesn't mean that car should be towing that much weight.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@BinaryMan
big fuckhuge PIGFAT V8
lower horsepower than meme engine with FI

Evilember
Evilember

@MPmaster
americans too stupid to:
use manual
tow anything without fuckhuge pigfat truck
drive in snow
have motorsport tracks more complicated than a drag strip or O shaped nascar
buy a smaller car perfect for daily needs

WebTool
WebTool

@PackManBrainlure
I would prefer the subie myself, but trucks aren't really comparable to a WRX.

Has a long as its not a brotruck there's nothing wrong with truck. Not my cup of tea but to each which own.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@MPmaster
Those things are not all that heavy. They typically weigh around 1500-1700kg, depending on how much equipment it has and if you're loading luggage into it aswell

Passats can be rated up to 2200kg towing limit, and as such it should do fine

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@girlDog
3/4 ton towing
That is shitbox tier, my 850kg econobox is rated at 1/2ton...

Nojokur
Nojokur

@PackManBrainlure
I wish base model light pickups were still produced in the US. I would happily buy an i4 pickup with manual windows, manual door locks and a manual gear box.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@StrangeWizard
Everyone look at the moron.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@BinaryMan
But the vehicle can't just be enough to get the job done for Americans, it must also accommodate for scrotal shortcomings.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@StrangeWizard
lmao

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Flameblow
Holy kek, thanks for the lols

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@StrangeWizard
Yeah the excursion only exceeds that by a little bit. It's okay you understand truck chassis codes user. We won't judge you.

5mileys
5mileys

@BinaryMan
Yeah, I've seen hatchbacks pull caravans. Granted, single-axle ones but still, you're right. You'd be surprised what can pull one

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@5mileys
I saw a Lada Niva pulling one of these last winter

Skullbone
Skullbone

this thread
implying 5th wheels aren't goat

Evilember
Evilember

@Harmless_Venom
Why don´t you SIMPLY write how much the vehicle can tow in the first place?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@kizzmybutt
Whaa?
Was it revving its nuts off or something? Never saw the Niva as being that powerful or full of torque.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Skullbone
Come on user, step it up. 5th wheels can legally have a bumper pull as well. However it is a little nerve wracking getting super long.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Flameblow
You don´t need much power to keep your speed, as long as you don´t go fast...

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Evilember
It's just a way of comparing similiar vehicles. 1/2 ton = light trucks, 3/4 ton = medium duty, 1 ton = heavy duty.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Evilember
Because if someone says 3/4 ton truck towing capabilities I know they mean around 6000-10,000 pound towing capacity, but more important I know it means the frame and suspension is stronger and built tougher for towing than a 1/2 ton truck.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Flameblow
It didn't seem to be going all that fast (only met it as I was driving), and I wonder how it would cope with the steep roads of the mountains here. Probably had to use the low-range

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@StrangeWizard
@Evilember
Hi regular car reviews

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@CodeBuns
Enjoy burning up your automatic transmission

massdebater
massdebater

@BunnyJinx
@Dreamworx
But a ton is a weight unit, why use it to describe a truck about 3-4 times the weight?
@Lord_Tryzalot
What do you mean?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@SomethingNew
falling for the autotragic meme

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@massdebater
He didn't understand it either and got btfo on one of his videos.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_classification

Read up

Methshot
Methshot

implying a wagon is able to haul my 5000lb trailer

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Methnerd
This
@farquit
That way I can fit all I need for long road trips or camping sessions
if I had any friends to go with

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Emberburn
7.3 powerstrokes actually get around 16-18mpg depending on the application. Lowest Ive ever got in my f250 was 15 and that was towing on i95

Evilember
Evilember

@PackManBrainlure
lol ur a cuck if you buy anything bigger than a 2L shitbox

epic bro

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Burnblaze
Not bad for a huge beast

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Deadlyinx
That system doesn´t make any sense at all.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@RavySnake
Queen and King size beds doesn't really make sense. Why don't we just refer to them by their actual size?

makes you think

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

using an impretzel to tow your track car to the track

I don't want to drive my unreliable drift car 2 hours away, shits gonna break when I drive back home

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@PackManBrainlure
i own a 2003 subaru legacy 2 wagon with a 2 inch receiver. I also own a 2000 f250 superduty 7.3l diesel pickup. What now

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@BlogWobbles
Poland.
Are you fucking special?
Poland is pretty much the least kebabed place in Europe.
Long live Poland.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@CodeBuns
Pretty sure it was a joke m9.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@CodeBuns
Where I live we actualy do refer to them by their sieze.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Flameblow
I've got a Petrol Niva and I'd say it'll pull a small trailer or caravan OK, wouldn't do it as a hobby but its OK. In the UK at least they used to market it pulling a horsebox but I would imagine that that is a limit to its pulling power.
There's a video of one pulling a boat and it's pretty impressive.
VAZ put a diesel in and that gives it some nice pull.
I know a chap who pulls a trailer in a little diesel Corsa so I think the truck meme is pretty darn real.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@PackManBrainlure
Implying massive bro truck driving faggots aren't ridiculed in the US

Though the concept of renting a trailer is pretty foreign to most of us, I think they're regarded as scary.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Poker_Star
As long as you don´t drive fast, have short gears and don´t drive uphill, power isn´t usually a problem.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Lord_Tryzalot
Most 2l diesel family estates are rated to 1500-2000kg towing capacity. I admit if you really need to tow something heavy like a 2 cars trailer or a big boat you'll need something bigger like a SUV but that's maybe needed for 5% of the people who buy fuckhuge trucks.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@BinaryMan
Passats can be rated up to 2200kg towing limit,
Which ones? I have a 2016 burger model and it's only rated to ~500kg.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Sir_Gallonhead
passat
500kg
Lolwut?
Here in europe every econobox is rated 500kg.

takes2long
takes2long

@PackManBrainlure
Most sedans in the US aren't rated to tow jack shit. At best it'll be like 1000 pounds but if you want a hitch it has to be an aftermarket thing because they never made stock ones. Some bits of furniture and maybe a dirtbike trailer would be okay at 1000 pound rating but anything much more than that needs a lot more.

likme
likme

@Sir_Gallonhead
Unless they use a completely different chassis for us passat they are lying. I know my A4 is rated at 1900kg.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@SomethingNew
Just checked the manual, 450kg.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@SomethingNew
@Sir_Gallonhead
maybe it is automatic?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Burnblaze
implying that makes much of a difference
It is but there's no separate ratings. "All models, 450kg"

FastChef
FastChef

@Deadlyinx
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/new/passat-viii/which-model/brochures

Download the brochure you'll see the Alltrack is rated at 2200kg, standard ones at 2000kg and even the hybrid at 1600kg. There's something weird about those us models, 500kg is nothing.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Deadlyinx
Lol here in europe they are 1500kg-2200kg.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Lunatick
see
@cum2soon

Lunatick
Lunatick

@FastChef
@SniperGod
it's probably to prevent americlaps from blowing up their gearboxes and sue vw for it

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@PurpleCharger
@FastChef
It could be that they were never actually tested in the US because no one tows with a sedan. So they just slapped 1000 pounds onto the sticker because it should handle it.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Dreamworx
ah

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Boy_vs_Girl
never actually tested
If they didn´t test them, why did they write 450kg on them?
These cars are obviously capable of towing about 2 tons, why not rate them like this?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Emberburn
Because bureaucracy?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Emberburn
Maybe for the same reason on Harleys they put "Don't drink the battery acid" because they know the average American intelligence and lethal legal system may combine and screw them?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@BlogWobbles
burocracy
Isn´t it basicly the same for 450kg as for 2000kg?
@GoogleCat
Don't drink the battery acid
I hope that is a joke, also what is the problem with allowing more towing capacity?
Since a trailor has it´s own brakes you don´t overstress anything.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Evil_kitten
Also what is the problem with allowing more towing capacity?
Since a trailor has it´s own brakes you don´t overstress anything.
Don't ask me I dunno.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@lostmypassword
t. eco-boost shitter

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Evil_kitten
Most trailors don't have brakes that are intended to stop it. They are mostly there to keep it straight during hard braking.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@RavySnake
Most have a simple system called "Auflaufbremse" in german, as soon as the trailor pusches the car, the strut gets comressed and activates the brakes.
As soon as you brake, this system gets activated and does most of the work.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Nojokur

Poor people that cant afford better shit than ikea

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Sir_Gallonhead
Wut, I drive a Peugeot 205 that only weighs 800kg by itself and it is rated for 425kg or 800kg if the trailer has brakes. Pretty sure I can tow a small caravan with that.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@PackManBrainlure
New pick-ups here in the U.S. are really just luxury cars. Think of 'em as a practical mercedes/mazda.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Deadlyinx
Are you sure you are not looking at loading capacity?
Loading as in "how much weight you can put in the trunk"?
My fucking econobox is rated at 1600kgs.

idontknow
idontknow

@Harmless_Venom
huge size
most of them are not even good offroad
terrible MPG
definition of practical.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@idontknow

muh euro streets
muh EMPEGEEZ

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@idontknow
In America, size really isn't an issue. We've got big comfortable roads, big parking spaces, and just loads of room. So having a big, comfy, luxurious vehicle isn't impractical. They're really nice.

They're actually not bad on gas. Most are around 20mpg or even higher. Plus they've got plenty of power.

And you can haul whatever you need in a flash. Trust me, it's nice being able to move stuff in a jiffy without having to rent a trailer. Especially if you work on your own car, or have a project car. I should know, I do.

How's that not practical?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

The truck is not for towing but for hauling an amerilard fatass

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@BunnyJinx
God I love filters

Nojokur
Nojokur

@haveahappyday
my 2003 turbo wagon gets 40+ MPG it DOES make a difference.
same for size, such vehicle is easily maneuverable.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Stupidasole
I can drop or change my tripcode :)

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

need

There's that word again

Techpill
Techpill

@RavySnake
Literally from the Wikipedia

"When light-duty trucks were first produced in the United States, they were rated by their payload capacity in tons (e.g., ½-, ¾- and 1-ton). Over time, payload capacities for most domestic pickup trucks have increased while the ton titles have stayed the same. The now-imprecise ton rating is presently used to compare standard sizes, rather than actual capacities."

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Harmless_Venom
What about Mercedes & Mazda pickups?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@TalkBomber
Shit and shitbadged ranger

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Techpill
I read the article, but rating cars on a system like that still doesn´t make any sense.
Why not rate them with their actual payload capacity and towing capacity?

TechHater
TechHater

wagon and kombi is doo smal :DDDD
ned pick ub when i buy goga gola ad walmardt :DDDDD

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@eGremlin
Why not rate them with their actual payload capacity and towing capacity?

The now-imprecise ton rating is presently used to compare standard sizes, rather than actual capacities.

It's like calling all bandages "Band-Aids" or whatever.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Who gives a shit? I daily an impractical gas-guzzling mustang GT, but at least it puts a smile on my face from beginning to end, with every throaty roar in between.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@haveahappyday
luxurious

For americans luxurious is just another word for big.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@PackManBrainlure
Typical europoor can't fathom people being allowed to own more than one car lmao

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@viagrandad
Not really. My richfag relatives have furniture from the 1700s. New rich might be different though as trendy shit ages fast.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Burnblaze

Touareg
3500Kg towing capacity with tow package, 1750 without
280Kg ball weight

No, you didn't. And if you did, not only are you monumentally stupid but the two and a half tonnes over weight of three and a half tonnes would have been felt.

Falsehood, fiction, etc.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Crazy_Nice

LS3 Camaro here

I get around 21-22 MPG daily, not -that- impractical. I imagine you're getting similar

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

stuff that won't fit into a wagon
I don't understand.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Evilember
passat frames are designed for towing
passat brakes are designed for stopping with a trailer
passats being useful for anything other than filling a price/trim bracket above a jetta and below the A3/A4

every VW owner is fucking retarded, the european ones in particular apparently

girlDog
girlDog

@Boy_vs_Girl
Damn i want a volvo wagon.

takes2long
takes2long

@Emberburn
caring about mpg

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Nojokur
you can always buy used, sugar-tits

Playboyize
Playboyize

@King_Martha
Does it matter if it was not designed for towing?
As long as it can toe what I need to be toed is doing the job.
You don't need a car for every single specific thing.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Emberfire
Must have a lot of stuff. I easily fit all my clothes, electronics, books, onaholes, and car cleaning equipment in my sedan. But I also only deal with like a chair that I disassemble. I assume you have a desk or bedframe too?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

As a guy who just downsized from an F150 to a Wrangler, I actually miss my truck A LOT on some days.

had to move to new apartment
could have moved all my belongings in a single trip
instead had to ask for rides and help over the course of three days because tiny wrangler.wav

still have the 4x4 capability for this horrendous winter though. and damn it if I don't like the maneuverability of a small 4x4

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

After reading some of the towing figures posted by the Euros here, I did a little digging.

It turns out that there's a bit of a conspiracy in the US to have people believe that you need a big truck or SUV to tow something.
For example:

The Golf GTI in the UK is rated to tow 3100 pounds.
In the US, it's rated to tow 0.

06 Impreza wagon: 2000 lbs
06 Impreza sedan: 0.
Literally the exact same vehicle, except the trunk is bigger on the wagon.

The Crown Vic is rated for 1500 lbs. The Crown Vic! A body-on-frame, RWD, V8 with a tranny built for abuse, is only rated to tow 1500 lbs.

It has to be that SUVs and trucks are much more profitable to sell, so by "taking away" car's ability to tow, you push more people to getting a truck/SUV. You definitely don't need a huge engine to haul a trailer around, as evidenced by the fact that my 86 hardbody manages to pull trailers with a screaming 106 HP.

tldr; the jews

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

What I don't understand is Veeky Forums approves of your shitbox, no matter how stupid or impractical it is as long as it isn't a pick up truck. I like my truck, thanks. Yes there are much more practical vehicles that are even cheaper, but I'd still rather drive a truck.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Nojokur

They still are... It's called a fleet spec truck.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@PackManBrainlure
Different guy:

When I moved across the country, I managed to fit 85% of my possessions into a Civic Si.
Definitely couldn't do that now, considering I have a whole bunch of bulky tools/parts, and twice as many clothes.
Also furniture, but I'll probably sell that before I move again. I kind of hate the idea of having tons of shit just because.

girlDog
girlDog

@CouchChiller
It turns out that there's a bit of a conspiracy in the US to have people believe that you need a big truck or SUV to tow something.

It's not a fucking conspiracy. It's called having hills and mountains and cars averaging 300hp that you need to be able to keep up with. The average travel trailer here also is around 5000lbs, good fucking luck getting that up a mountain pass with a 1.6.... We don't pull those grey plastic cuck trailers you got there.

askme
askme

@PackManBrainlure
Yeah let me just buy a wagon

captcha: select pictures of pickup trucks

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@girlDog
america is the only place with mountains

I would also like to remind you that America has one of the lowest speedlimits all around.

Techpill
Techpill

HOURLY EUROPOOR OBSESSION THREAD

TreeEater
TreeEater

@askme
Those could easily fit in a wagon with a trailer if you did them one by one

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Spazyfool
Because even kebab land is less shitty.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@kizzmybutt

The UK sure as fuck doesn't have any, at least none you can drive over. What's the point of high speed limits when you're forced to drive 50hp 0.7l diesels? Most people don't give a fuck about speed limits. I bet the average north American highway still has higher average speeds.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@girlDog
having hills and mountains
Pretty sure Europe has those.
cars averaging 300hp
That's false and you know it. 80% of cars here are in the 100 - 200 HP range, and you're not going to be towing a trailer much faster than 70 mph.
The average travel trailer here also is around 5000lbs, good fucking luck getting that up a mountain pass with a 1.6
That's not a light travel camper, that's half of a fucking apartment. Also, notice how I listed cars like the CV (4.6L V8) and Golf GTI (220 HP).

I'm most definitely not from Europe, but you have to be dense to not realize that most people who drive trucks have no real need to and would do just fine with a wagon. This is America though, so if you want to spend your money that way, you're absolutely welcome to.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@TreeEater
The point isn't that trucks are useless.

We're talking about 45k mall crawlers that people justify with
"yeeah I gotta hawl my ATVs around sometimes so I got the 250 with tow package".

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@w8t4u

honestly when have you had the trailer and your truck bed filled up?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Fuzzy_Logic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-iMNnvhwg4

happy_sad
happy_sad

@girlDog

You don't need 300hp. You would be fine with 150 and a bunch of torque. Horsepower is just a byproduct of having torque in a higher rev range.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Dreamworx
This could be a deleted scene from Trailer Park Boys.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@happy_sad
You actually need torque at the wheels.
Even an engine with low torques but high revs and high HP will be able to tow with the right gearing.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@happy_sad
need

Only eurocucks only get what they need.

Americans get what they WANT.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@happy_sad

You do when you have to tow 5k or 10k lbs, even 300hp in a 4000lb sedan is far from overkill or fast. My 9000lb work truck is 150hp and has "a bunch of torque" and it's so slow it's dangerous.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@GoogleCat
Those are called surge brakes here in the states.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Nude_Bikergirl
Though we can when forced to be next to spics and dog fuckers

Techpill
Techpill

@Dreamworx
This is the average truck driver

Now I understand there's no point trying to reason them.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@LuckyDusty
130ish hp 200 series Volvos can tow their own weight+ without much trouble

Back in the 70's/60's you had trucks in NZ carting 50+ Tonne with only 90-200hp

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Burnblaze
Not exactly. More like americans get a bigger loan for something they WANT not need because mr shlomo said in his ads that the only way to be a man is buy a big truck

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@ZeroReborn
Nobody actually pays attention to ads. Murriclaps run on brand loyalty and fanboyism. They don't need to be jewed into thinking they need the truck, they come to that conclusion all on their own

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@New_Cliche
I don't know what's worse.

FastChef
FastChef

@CodeBuns
This kills the transmission

farquit
farquit

@CodeBuns
This. Just got a basic-ass truck as a replacement for my totaled CR-V, and while I loved my Honda, I just legitimately enjoy my truck as well. Has everything I need, nothing I don't.

This whole thread is everyone arguing over opinions and "NEEDZ" when the whole thing is moot because the answer to the question of ownership can simply be "because I fucking can and want to"

Snarelure
Snarelure

@PackManBrainlure
freedom hating eurocuck spotted.

Achmed pls go

Evilember
Evilember

I know it's Jap, but going from a modern 2.5 litre CRD to a 4.5 litre modern CRD with twice the cylinders changed my entire drive with the same payload. Chugging up the mountain turning 1900-2400 instead of turning 2500 - 3500 at 3800 Kg GVM with 3.5 tonne of work boat on the back, EGT's are cooler than 650 pre turbine, coolant never climbing over 88 centigrade is the best feeling.

I won't ever go back to small displacement diesels working extremely hard. Tried 2.8 IDI, 2.5 DI, 2.5 CRD from various manufacturers with various problems before settling on the 4.5 Toyota. Driving by the pyro because it shoots up to 800 without a second glance gets fucking old fast. Losing power on the long climb because the pissant little intercooler heatsoaked and IAT's are up around the hundred sucks arse. Coolant temperatures up around 95/98 (more if it's a Missin with a forklift engine), little auto boxes transferring tonnes (thermal tonnes!) of heat into the jacket water, twenty something pounds of boost from a GT18, TD04 or GT22 frame turbo that's spinning its fucking ring out, always having high Al and Si in the oil samples because the little engine is working way above its duty cycle etc etc.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Sir_Gallonhead
Europe and the US have different tow ratings for the same car. It's something to do with stricter safety-scissors laws in the US. I know this because I was looking up how much a datsun 620 could tow. Non US/Can versions were rated at 2000lbs while the US/Can version was rated at 1200.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Spazyfool
truck needs to be filled up 24/7

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Spazyfool

Not him, but at least once a week with mine.

likme
likme

@BinaryMan
Wow ! That's a great caravan!

Playboyize
Playboyize

@VisualMaster

Because you live in a tiny flat barren wasteland....

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Playboyize

New Zealand is a generally mountainous country with several large regions of plains. Two-thirds of the area is between about 200 and 1070 m (about 650 and 3500 ft) above sea level; the country has more than 220 named mountains exceeding 2286 m (7500 ft) in height.

Yeah sure dickhead, it's super flat.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Playboyize
does it matter if the frame is possibly warped, the car is thrown around by the trailer in high winds or at high speeds, the brakes are horribly undersized, etc

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Playboyize

As long as it can toe what I need to be toed

You mean, like, feet?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Playboyize
He said new Zealand Lmao

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@DeathDog
@Sir_Gallonhead

98% of your roads are perfectly flat. Even the pic you posted is flat as fuck.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Evil_kitten
And where are you from, fucking India?

Techpill
Techpill

America doesn't make trucks. They make oversized hotrods with cargo beds.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Evil_kitten

I know this may be a hard topic for a yank, but sit down and think this through.

Two thirds of NZ is between 650 feet and 3500 feet above sea level.

Two thirds of the roads in New Zealand link areas between 650 feet and 3500 feet.

Two thirds of the roads in New Zealand are either ascending or descending between 650 feet and 3500 feet.

SH1, the State Highway 1, is "... extremely steep, with a gradient average of 12%."

The image is a 11% grade followed by a 16% section overlooking Lake Wakatipu.

Try again?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@w8t4u

The mountainy parts of North America.

@TreeEater

Yawn. There's driveways here with that elevation gain. Those are short sections too so they don't count. Doing that for 2 hours continuously here is a little different.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@TurtleCat

Yawn. There are public access roads here with a 30% grade where car insurance is voided upon access.

What is short about the National Highway, you imbecile? 2 hours, whoopdie fucking doo cunt.

Try changing elevation from sea level to 3317 feet, back down to less than 1400 feet, returning to 2250 feet and back to sea level over two hours just to get your fucking groceries.

You don't need to attempt to seem bigger and better than everyone else to inflate your yankee ego. Something about NZ being mountainous effects you deeply boyo.

idontknow
idontknow

@TurtleCat
The mountains parts of North America which are flatter than most of new Zealand
Lmao

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@CodeBuns
What is short about the National Highway

It's 282km length. My small city has that much road on it's outskirts... I like how you use feet to make the elevations seem less pathetic. The average ski resort or trailhead is a bigger climb than that.

You people always assume that North Americans live in flat ass Kansas or Saskatchewan. Most places have serious hills and fast drivers plus we tow big loads. that's why we ******need****** all that HP.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

americans embarass themselves, thread #3648291

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Ignoramus

My people always assume North Americans are as dumb as dogshit.

Thanks for proving it to me yet again.

Fuck me, are you even trying here kid?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Spamalot

98% of it is flat though.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Spamalot

The average is a 12% grade with lower 0% and upper 30%. I know grades are hard for you to understand as you never passed the first one, but keep on trying.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

ITT cubicle farm euros

happy_sad
happy_sad

not owning both a truck and a car

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Ignoramus
Where are the serious hills in America? And no, a six lane wide interstate that literally cuts straight through mountains doesn't really count...

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Soft_member

Don't feed him champ, and they do have plenty. He's likely still sitting there pondering how American maths can make a mean average of 12% grade on a road equal a 98% majority of 0% grade.

FastChef
FastChef

@Spazyfool
hurr durr a truck has to have a full bed and pull a trailer all the time or its fuckenn stupid!

I don't get fags like this. I have a truck that I occasionally use for towing, hauling dirt, stone, cars, car parts, motorcycles, off roading, camping etc. Doesn't matter if it spends the vast majority of the tie as a DD as it doesnt make sense to own a truck, shit box, and trailer when you can own just one do all vehicle.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@w8t4u
Comfy af

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Explain how trucks are marketed to us Americans as being necessary for towing or doing anything
Explain how American tow figures are artificially low, encouraging people to buy the truck
Try to explain how things are bigger and it's a different culture
Stupid small-dicked redneck comes in and starts spouting shit about every car needing 300 HP, and tries to claim NZ is flat

Now I see why there's the stereotype of us Americans being obnoxious and ignorant. I don't know why I try.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@PackManBrainlure
stop buying things you enjoy

Although the lifted trucks with offroad lights, that weird fording exhaust shit, and a million different accessories that are absolutely pristine and have clearly never been driven on anything other than asphalt confuse me.

Actual reason to buy truck though
Sometimes I need to move stuff that is either filthy or won't fit into a wagon, like literally every other day because I live in the country and want to be able to just chuck shit in the back and not need to worry about putting seats down, ripping the interior, or getting it dirty.

Also, whenever someone needs to move some shit but only owns a prius you just come over and help them, then go out for pizza and beers after.

^
Actual main difference between eu and usa

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@PurpleCharger
@Stark_Naked
LOL every nation has a faction of idiots. the point is, your continent is a continent of either cucked faggots or mexican-tier slavs. I find it hilarious when a Slav makes fun of a mexi

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@PackManBrainlure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8P5vGcf-NU

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@kizzmybutt
Id rather have Polish or Czech people than Mexicans and Blacks, any day

whereismyname
whereismyname

@girlDog
1Ps=pulling 75kg up verticaly at 1m/s
300Ps= pulling up 22500kg at 1m/s=pulling up

If you drive like 30m/s=108km/h=67,5mph and climb 10%, you climb wit 3m/s you could pull 7500kg of car+trailor.
Assuming there would be no other friction, so more like 7000kg in real life.

But 10% isn´t something you usually have on a highway, most of the time it is way below 5%.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@BlogWobbles
Polish or Czech people

Eastern Europeans are a disgusting people who's only purpose is to clean toilets in the UK.

Brexit literally happened because:

1. Refugees
2. Polish shitters

RumChicken
RumChicken

Truck bed
Can drift while hauling

trailer
no drifts

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Poker_Star
implying that slavs are the problem in UK at this point
nice try Ahmad

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@PackManBrainlure
Have fun tearing up fields in a wagon.

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