/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

Inmate
Inmate

Old Yharnam Edition

Burned and abandoned by men, now home only to shitposters: /vg/thread/165131760#p165131760

A google doc with basic information. If you're new to Bloodborne and /bbg/ READ THIS FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz

Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

Bloodborne Damage Calculations and Formulas
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp

All urls found in this thread:
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http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
http://www.bloodbell.com/
http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
http://pastebin.com/YnRRZPMp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIqMqzt0Af8
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com
https://my.mixtape.moe/rmjzoc.mp3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfXkWz0zeIk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzdhTGaWzec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA614N3IHD4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uKdU19drsw
FastChef
FastChef

For those struggling with Amy.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Inmate
First for Bloodletting!

viagrandad
viagrandad

DOLL BUTT

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Bloodletter

Flameblow
Flameblow

Someone help. I accidentally got into an argument with Lucy about a build, and dug myself into a hole. Throw down a ladder that I may escape. I want to keep digging, but it'll just be harder to get back out.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

The amount of Vilebloods in the recent threads is far too high. We need to PURGE FILTH

Also a friendly reminder not to reply to trips. Keep this place as cancer-free as possible, please.

askme
askme

First for lobster... I mean "Beware of pincer attack"

Inmate
Inmate

@FastChef
Goddamnit Luci... ruined my first.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Flameblow
youre situation

TechHater
TechHater

@Inmate
You'll get used to it.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

IT IS NOW 1AM
DOES ANYBODY REQUIRE HELP WITH ANYTHING

5mileys
5mileys

@New_Cliche
youre
your
im retarded

also @Inmate
please do not reply to that failed abortion's posts

hairygrape
hairygrape

tfw no slut wear

Evilember
Evilember

just one cycled Rom with a random summon

Knew it was possible because it's featured in speed runs but I've never even come close to it. Guess that's the power of a gemmed tonitrus and an hmls.

girlDog
girlDog

@hairygrape
BB's cosplay and slutwear game is super weak. Really the only two things any of the Souls games did better.

But Big M would say those two things have nothing to do with gameplay or his vision, and he wouldn't be wrong.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

platinumed the game twice already

I don't even know what to do anymore

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Why didn't you protect her, /bbg/?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Bloodborne would make a great movie.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@haveahappyday
Go for the third time?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Spazyfool
I doubt that, honestly.

It would need to be 2.5 hours and the MPAA would need to not exist.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@GoogleCat
she stole my memes

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Fuzzy_Logic
That pic kinda reminds me of this one for some reason
Miyazaki will never buy the right to S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and make S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@haveahappyday
The cool thing about bloodborne to me is that even a year after I got the plat I come back to it. The only other games that kept the magic after 100% was Dark Souls and Oblivion. Oblivion is a once every few years sort of love though.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@RumChicken
It would need to be 2.5 hours
Not that bad. 3 hours is the limit.

MPAA
Why? Follow the game and use whoever doesn't act like shit.

likme
likme

@haveahappyday
have you tried depth 5 root chalice dungeons with fetid, rotten, and cursed offerings?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

I just got a Radial offshape 9.5% Arc + 72.5 Flat Arc with a beast down curse after about 5 runs in Isz, fairly lucky?

Snarelure
Snarelure

Pthumerian Descendant appears in the boss room
the bottom of the screen says Pthumerian Elder
Why? How often does the game do this? If I had died would it have given me the elder next time?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Emberburn
I don't have a third account

@ZeroReborn
I think I might need a break. It's all I've been playing these past few months. In that time frame, I've don't STR, SKL, BLT, and ARC builds.

@likme
I made 4 frc ihyll chalices today senpai and completed them all.

takes2long
takes2long

Defiled Chalice cleared out.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@eGremlin
Studios don't make long movies anymore. A lot of moves now days barely hit 80 minutes.

The MPAA is fucking retarded and it'd wind up being NC-17 for violence before the first act was over. And since the art of using actual costume and make up for things is dead, everything that wasn't a person would be CGI.

We'd wind up with a PG-13, 80-minute shitfest akin to the Tekken movies that looked like the special edition, "improved with CGI" Star Wars flicks.

Now if someone would and could make a two-and-a-half-hour-long, reasonably realistically violent and actually costumed and animatronic beasts, I'd be all for it.

But it will never ever happen. It'd be an insurmountable moneypit.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@RumChicken
if we can find a billionaire who loves bloodborne then we stand a chance

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Poker_Star
Then again, would we want to see something like this? Depending on the director, they might just take every creative liberty they can until we end up with something that resembles the game in name only. This happens nearly every time a movie based on a game is made. I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule, but those are fairly few and far between.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@RumChicken
Two and a half hours is way too short anyway to tell a story as massive as Bloodborne anyway, shit would easily have to push four, maybe even five hours.

That's the main reason TV shows/video games/books rarely translate well into movie form, the stories are simply way too big to be condensed into less than three hours. Ironically enough Lovecraft would actually translate well to a movie medium considering a lot of his stories are rather short, the colour out of space could easily be condensed into two hours (with the exception of the unrecognizable colour)

Methshot
Methshot

make chalice and go through it like normal
see Undead Giant/hotdog
bold hunter's mask right away
return to the dream and remove chalice
I am not playing those games.

@RumChicken
Studios don't make long movies anymore. A lot of moves now days barely hit 80 minutes.
I am sorry, I haven't seen a single movie that has come out since 2009 and I have never seen one with superheroes.

@VisualMaster
As long as they aren't too explicit with the story and leave things up to the viewer.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Raving_Cute
Lovecraft was a racist so he can't be enjoyed in 2017.

Maybe a Bloodborne mini-series.
EP 1: Arrival to Yharnam and underlying lore, ends with Papa G
EP 2: Old Yharnam and more learning what the beast are with Amelia, start going into the chalices
EP 3: Horrors of the chalice dungeons and the old blood
EP 4: Burgersworth and Rom, historical background
EP 5: Shit hits the fan hard, School of Mensis and The Choir's atrocities
EP 6: The End

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@viagrandad
EP7: The Memes
in this final episode the skeptical man sits down infront of the camera in an armchair by the fire and recounts all the meme worthy moments of the series

RavySnake
RavySnake

Who wants to come help me put Simon's raggedy ass in the ground?
I'm tired of doing 30 damage a hit and getting two shot. Pass bbg, ringing by the Hunter's Nightmare lamp.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@RavySnake
NOT WHAT I MEANT BY HELPING OTHERS BUT IT'LL DO

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@RavySnake
Dude did you think I could hit him?
I was going to just trap him in the doorway for you?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@RavySnake
killing simon
no better than a beast.
he dies in the fishing hamlet anyway so why not wait til then you cunt[/spoiler[

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@New_Cliche
Ludwig

iluvmen
iluvmen

Boss you died the most to
number of times
Living Failures
15

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Sir_Gallonhead

I had the power inside myself all along! Thank you senpai!

Techpill
Techpill

@Firespawn
No problem dude

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@CodeBuns

I actually had no idea you couldn't hit him. Made a ton of sense as soon as I gave it a modicum of thought. Thank you anyways!

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@iluvmen
tfw always die to their retard rush where they swing their arms

WebTool
WebTool

@Stark_Naked
They're actually pretty easy to parry. It took me 5 playthroughs to know that.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@RumChicken
CG isn't inherently bad, it's a matter of budget. I understand if it's Gascoigne's last phase, but One Reborn can never be an animatronic.
Also, there are still long, "mainstream" movies being made. Interstellar, for one.
The real core problem is the fact that stories are inextricably linked to their mediums. It's very rare for a story to transcend mediums in it's entirety.
Any good adaptation of a story must create as much as it derives from source material. Either way, you need someone who is as good at making movies as Miyazaki is at making video games.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Let's say a new Bloodborne game is announced and it will be made no matter what.
What would you like it to be about?

Loran?
Old Yharnam?
Biggestworth adventures exploring the chalices and shit?
A new city years later overrun with beasts where our character ends up being the new eldritch antagonist and main prey?

Snarelure
Snarelure

Why are some old hunter bells blue instead of red?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@iluvmen
@Stark_Naked
@WebTool
mfw I'm an arc build and I can spawncamp one of the corners with a bolt Saif and threeshot the same Failure over and over

I'm convinced that they have the same amount of individual health across NG+ cycles, because I threeshot the backleft Failure every time I fight them regardless of what level of NG it is.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Lord_Tryzalot
What's the ar on your Bolt saif

massdebater
massdebater

@PackManBrainlure
Dating sim set in the past where you play as a Byrgenwerth student. You have to manage your schoolwork along with dungeon diving and going on dates.

massdebater
massdebater

@massdebater
Would play

WebTool
WebTool

@Flameblow
I mean, it's FRC gems, but even so, it's always been a threeshot, whether it's just base NG or NG+4 or some shit.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@WebTool
I JUST WANTED TO COMPARE IT TO MINE

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@PackManBrainlure
Go off the assumption that the Splatoon ending is canon and thus there hasn't be a hunt in centuries and there was some big event that basically destroyed the church and blood ministration, the game is now set in a world that is very similar to our own during the 1920's and for some unknown reason when night descends on a relatively uneventful night the beast curse suddenly starts to grip people again and the nightmare returns entirely.

We play a descendant of a hoonter, though before that really didn't mean much in this world we go through a sequence of trying to escape the city until we inevitable die at some point and end up in the dream.

After that we set out into the world to try to find out what's causing the night of the hunt to return, seeing a city that a few hours ago was completely alive and unprepared in absolute chaos as bodies fill every gutter and vicious beasts stalk the streets, slowly getting deeper and deeper and learn that the old ways of Yharnam, the Church, and of course the great ones may not be gone or a myth like everyone thought, but simply found different ways to stick their fingers into the pie that is Yharnam.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Stark_Naked
people say theyre the easiest boss fight but for some reason (Im shit) i always die to them. where as im not bad at other bosses, killed laurence and OoK on my first try, but LF always seem to fuck me up for some reason

Inmate
Inmate

@PackManBrainlure
hunter space programme where we send ayyliens into orbit
the powderkegs would build the rockets

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Nude_Bikergirl
That's just the price of anonymity, user. We can all share the memes.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Inmate
oh wait, powderkegs are RIP. Maybe some kind of powder keg remnant group builds the rockets

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Lunatick
Jeez I'm sorry

I don't have the screenshot on hand or I'd have posted it. It's six hundred some, don't know exactly what.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@AwesomeTucker
The problem with that is that if the scourge appeared in such sort notice there would be 2 issues

1. I believe that REALLY big beasts like the Cleric Beasts, Blood Starved and Dark Beasts come from people that consumed a lot of blood over time like the vicars and other members of the church.
If the scourge was really sudden then that means no time to cook ug big beasts.

2. Normal soldiers or normal people for that matter wouldn't be in the physical condition to fight beasts, nor have the training or access to trick weapons. How you're going to explain that with all the important people ded and dream destroyed still more hunters are being trained hundreds of years later?

5mileys
5mileys

@Fuzzy_Logic
Yeah same, thank you :-)

Playboyize
Playboyize

When was the last patch?
Is there any hope From will actually do more balance fixes in the future?
I really wish Beastcutter wouldn't be so shit. I wish it was Bestcutter.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@iluvmen
Ball and Chain Undead Giant
Abhorrent Beast
Defiled Amygdala
Either one of those probably. Around 10 times I guess, didn't count.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Raving_Cute
1. The church never really disappeared rather than just became far more secretive, you'd learn throughout the game that high ranking government officials, mobsters, etc. were still keeping the church going and using healing blood.

2. Remember that the good hunter in Bloodborne is just some random foreigner who got a last minute transfusion, going by the assumption that hunters could indeed conceive children and thus have hunter blood in them it stands to reason that on the night of the hunt, even if it is a very sudden resurgence, they could be called back to the dream.
Granted this would mean there would be no veteran hoonters in the game, all the other hunters encountered would basically be completely new to the night of the hunt like us and all part of the dream at the same time, with us being the only one who got far enough to stop it.

I know it's an autistic idea but I felt like being a little autistic tonight.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Anybody want to fight logarius?

Bl 55 pass is log

Firespawn
Firespawn

@LuckyDusty
On my way

askme
askme

@Firespawn
Alright I'm at the fog

Firespawn
Firespawn

nobody's doing FRCs
Dead thread.
Dead game.

cum2soon
cum2soon

These are on stupidly high level build
I have every weapon +10

idontknow
idontknow

@Firespawn
1500 attack

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Firespawn
My dumb ass was ringing with bbg instead of log im reringing now

idontknow
idontknow

@PackManBrainlure
WW1 theme
Long time after Yharnam but blood was discovered again and it's resulted in war.
You wake up in a trench. Who's side you were on doesn't matter anymore everyone has lost their mind.
Obviously eventually you would discover great ones and shit again.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@idontknow
the good blood is now called aryan blood

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@idontknow
Haha that's with beast built up
Without it it's 1140

viagrandad
viagrandad

@TalkBomber
Oh, that seems a lot more reasonable, LBH I'm guessing?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@viagrandad
Nope, Lost HLMS
LHB is like 990 but I don't even have 27.2s on it

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@cum2soon
1528

King_Martha
King_Martha

@iluvmen
Ludwig
I lost count after 2 hours of attempts. Delayed attacks mess me up something fierce, man.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Thanks for the logarius help. Stupid that he stuck his ass in a corner until he powered up. Cheap shit. Still didn't stand a chance.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Crazy_Nice
03:20
read reply
see that reaction image
Mfw
Thanks user, just lost it in bed

Methshot
Methshot

@Harmless_Venom
No problem. If you need any more help or just wanna coop I'm free

I have nothing better to do atm

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@iluvmen
Probably Ludwig.

If not Ludwig, dual knife Undead Giant.

But probably Ludwig thanks to a couple different low-level HMLS and Rakuyo rushes.

askme
askme

Hey hey, you boys want to help someone else with Log?

BL 50, pass bbg, ringing at the fog.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@iluvmen
HMPH with no parries allowed

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

reminder not to give that failed abortion any replies

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@askme
Christ, that fucking lag man. One second he's in front of me, the next he's halfway across the arena.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@iluvmen
Orphan of Kos on NG+ (never tried on NG before)

I died probably 60 times. I used up like 400 blood vials I remember.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Crazy_Nice
For how much you claim to dislike him you sure do pay him an awful lot of attention.

Frankly, I think you're gay for him.

Playboyize
Playboyize

If I kill Ebrietas, how can Augur of Ebrietas still work?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Playboyize
Time is convoluted in Yharnam.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Playboyize
Implying you can ever truly kill a great one
Oh user, life and death are nothing but concepts created by humans and their feeble minds that cannot even begin to comprehend the cosmos, you need to get more eyes.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@PurpleCharger
If it bleeds, we can kill it.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@iluvmen
Orphan on a twink with 18 vit
I don't even remember how many times I died, but it can't be far off from @Emberburn

RavySnake
RavySnake

I got the itch to play this game again, what should my weapon and build be?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@RavySnake
Stake Driver

RumChicken
RumChicken

@RavySnake
saw cleaver

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Just got to Unseen village, how the fuck do I make it past the laser beam bs? I can't time it at all, and I just end up instakilled going down the stairs.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

/vg/thread/165201398#p165237116
Do you agree?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Poker_Star
@RumChicken
Cool, now arc, quality, or str?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

/vg/thread/165201398#p165237116
@SomethingNew
More difficult to break on replay
An unupgraded bleed weapon shits on every boss except dragonslayer armor
That was my go-to strategy for twinking, and a +2 barbed sword could carry me through ng++ with little effort

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@StrangeWizard
I am doing str with 50/25 but i think arc would work well also.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Is there a waning arc gem in the game as fixed loot or am I going to need to slot a droplet until I can farm offshapes?

Wheel is pretty underwhelming at +8 and 32/20 str/arc because I can only fill the radial slots and the waning is useless right now.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@StrangeWizard
Arc cleaver

It's pretty much the closest thing in the game to easy mode.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@GoogleCat
Thanks. I want to have fun so i'll probably be using the stake driver more.

askme
askme

@StrangeWizard
Because of heavy abyssals, the only point in doing a true quality build instead of a 50/25 STR build is if you want more damage off of viscerals.

I would recommend going for a skill build and using the Reiterpallasch.

@StrangeWizard
That's true. Dual wielding weapons with carthus rouge is absurd.

@GoogleCat
Pure arcane is boring, it's just using the saw spear and cheesing bosses with hunter tools.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@SomethingNew
You kidding? DaS3 is super fucking easy to break, a luck build with bleed weapons is easy mode, pyromancy is OP as fuck when you get the chaos fireball, and if all else fails just fall back on dark sword spam.

Pontiff and Nameless were the only bosses in the game that I considered hard, everyone else was laughably easy for one reason or another.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@SomethingNew
I just want to say that Outrider Knights are disgusting and are the worst enemy in the franchise

Winter Lanterns
Can be parried relatively easy once you stop fearing them, avoiding frenzy through I-frames. Likewise a full anti-frenzy setup + sedatives + hitting them is fine
Jailers
Weak, slow and shit-tier. Only dangerous in packs
Mindflayers
Kite them
Bonewheelz
Don't block, be situationally aware
Mace-rolling Fatass
Blue elixir + slow walk + backstab
Sonic methheads
Blue elixir + slow walk + backstab/parry
Rakuyo Sharks
Cancerous as fuck I admit, but their flailing isn't as bad and they have more recovery time between combos
Hellhounds
Abuse their dog-type by shooting/stunning them and following up

I think Outrider Knights outrank pre-patch Drakekeepers and even regular-enemy chain giants/hotdogs/abhorrent beasts/pthumerian fuckfaces

Hit hard as fuck
Hit multiple times
Build up status effect to make you even more vulnerable
Fast as fuck
Some attacks have little telegraphing
Multi-hit combos
Little recovery between some combos
Difficult to ambush in Settlement/Lothric Castle

Almost as retarded as Freide having 3 health bars like she's a Bayonetta boss

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Harmless_Venom
Stake is pretty fun

@Crazy_Nice
Drakekeepers
Please don't remind me of those fucking things, I still have nightmares

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Illusionz
Which base Souls game was hard?

Booteefool
Booteefool

Anyone want to help me out with orphan of kos? Lvl 80 and im bad

5mileys
5mileys

@King_Martha
Honestly, none of them really, they're challenging but if you have decent situational awareness and reflexes you can make it through them all relatively easily.

Though I will say DaS2 had the most bullshit off all the souls games, lingering AoE hitboxes, needing to invest in a stat to get normal i-frames, gank squads of higher tier mobs with joint aggro around every corner, enemies that attack a million fucking times on top of having severely broken hitboxes. That game was just a mess.

likme
likme

@PackManBrainlure
Let's say a new Bloodborne game is announced and it will be made no matter what.
What would you like it to be about?
A prequel with no guns.

But seriously, don't make a Bloodborne 2.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@PurpleCharger
parrying winter lanterns
if you shoot too late with a pistol (even if it's before the grab lands), the winter lanterns become un-parryable. Parrying them and iframing through the frenzy is risky as fuck honestly. If you fuck it up in the slightest you are dead. At least if you just smash their faces in with a weapon that can stun them out of their grab, you only will lose 70% of your health to the frenzy instead of straight up dying to the grab + frenzy + frenzy

Rakuyo sharks
Fighting one of them 1v1 is not that hard. You can parry the one with the anchor pretty easily. The other one has trouble turning around; just circlestrafe him like Ludwig's second form. Fighting them 2v1 is possible if you make good use of that big column in the middle of the well

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@5mileys
lingering AoE hitboxes
I think Dark Souls 1 and Demon's Souls were worse offenders in this. The fire in Demon's Souls was so visually ambiguous that you could barely tell when it would hurt you, and armored spider caught me with its fire surge twice before I just waited back by the fog wall for it to calm down. I think Dark Souls was the worst though. I remember consistently walking into Demon Firesage's explosions about a second after they had gone off.

Adaptability was retarded.

enemies that attack a million fucking times
Like? Dark Souls 3 had the mash roll away from the anime combo problem much worse than Dark Souls 2.

@Crazy_Nice
Those were total bullshit.

happy_sad
happy_sad

doll talking about the church and loving their creators
wonders if the creators love their creations
>says she loves you because that's how you made her
I wasn't ready for this man

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@VisualMaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIqMqzt0Af8

idontknow
idontknow

Daily reminder that this general is for discussing Bloodborne and not DaS 1, 2 or 3.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@happy_sad
Just wait until the part where she asks "are you cold?" and holds you

Snarelure
Snarelure

So where can I get the best pulsing and lethal blood gems? I got a pulsing circle gem of +5HP per second for my secondary firearm, and I found a triangular gem of +5HP/sec for my primary weapon. Can you find pulsing radial or waning gems? I'd like to have a primary weapon I can just equip with my regen firearm and use to quickly regen my HP

Lethal gems give your weapon more HP on rally. I got triangle one from the story (I think) that is +12% rally potential, but here it says they can find gems that go up to 18%. Where!? Do they come in other types than triangles? I want that shit, and I don't see anything about it on the spreadsheet

farquit
farquit

@Playboyize
why is this game about hoonting eldritch abominations with saws, wheels, and flamethrowers making me feel all warm and fuzzy inside about a sentient doll I didn't sign up for this

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

What's your highest level character?

I have a level 261 character with 50 points in every stat except endurance and arcane, which have 40 and 71 points in them, respectively

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

may you find your 'werth in the waking world
Was this a hint telling you to go to Byrgenwerth?

WebTool
WebTool

@Fried_Sushi
Why would you think that?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Fried_Sushi
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Snarelure
The best pulsing gems are +5 and come from Rite Keepers in Cursed + Rotted Depth 5 dungeons. The emu looking guys with tropes of skinny Pthumerians who they constantly buff.

They only come in Circle but it's possible to get an offshape drop in Radial, Waning or Triangle. That happens 1-2% of the time, so you'll need to kill a lot of Ritekeepers. The good news is that with all 3 eye runes on the droprate is very good, and in the most popular Watcher farming glyph (pwmf22gu) there's a Ritekeeper right near the lamp on the way to the lever.

There's a +4 triangle Pulsing gem in a chest in the DLC, which can work until you get a +5 offshape.

The only other source is the global loot pool in Loran. Pulsing is a very rare effect from any enemy without a dedicated drop. As far as I know it only ever goes up to +4 because there's no drop source without a secondary effect to boost with primary effect with its unused "gem budget". It's really rare though, Fire, Tempering, Bolt, Murky, Dirty, Beast and Kin hunter are all more common. So farming offshapes from Ritekeepers (who only ever drop pulsing) would likely be quicker.

A lost Bow Blade is best because it has Radial, Circle, Triangle. So if you are ok with using the +4 DLC triangle you only need one offshape.

Lethal gems do not exist. Except for the one in the DLC chest, and as a secondary effect there is no source that will ever drop that gem type. Maybe Isz Watchers, since they dropped BLT gems about 1/1,00,000 kills, but no Lethal primary effects have ever been recorded, so it's doubtful.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@AwesomeTucker
there hasn't been a hunt in centuries
1920's tech
You know Bloodborne uses 1890's style and tech, the one exception being everyones' enamoration with flintlocks, right?

askme
askme

@Snarelure
Why not just use a blood vial

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

there are people in this thread who actually farm the bis gems in the same dungeon over and over, instead of doing a new random root dungeon every time and have fun

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Spazyfool
people do gem farming at all

cum2soon
cum2soon

@askme
Because rallying is more fun. Having high rally changes your mindset from "fuck I just got hit, I'd better dodge to safety so I can heal" to "fuck I just got hit, I need to hit this guy back ASAP"

@Crazy_Nice
Thanks for the explanation! I was hoping it wouldn't be that hard to find the offshapes. Ritekeeper goon squads are a pain in the ass to kill, especially when they come at you all staggered instead of in one big group. The skinny watchers with the little burning swords do tremendous damage with their running attack.

Lethal gems do not exist. Except for the one in the DLC chest, and as a secondary effect there is no source that will ever drop that gem type.
Damn, well that sucks. So the +18.8% rally gem they talk about in that pic is not real? And neither is guidance 3... fuck. Why does From hate rally so much?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Spazyfool
not farming top-tier gems so you can have fun spelunking without taking forever to kill shit
The most difficult dungeons "demand" the best of the best.

Techpill
Techpill

@cum2soon
But the best gems only drop on the most difficult ones. If they demand the best gems, how can you clear them to find those gems in the first place? Explain this paradox.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@cum2soon
What about not getting hit in the first place, and using those gem slots for the gems that let you do more damage instead?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Techpill
glyphs

some dungeons have been found where the first boss is easy and drops really good gems, and it's pretty easy to get to the lever so you can just keep remaking the dungeon

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

finally get a call beyond on my arc character
try it out
absolutely decimate Ebrietas

did I just unlock easy mode?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Crazy_Nice
You can't count on not getting hit. And if you *are* good enough to not get hit 99% of the time anyway, then your damage output could be low as hell for all it matters because you are going to win just chipping away at them anyway. Talking about PVE specifically here

FastChef
FastChef

@cum2soon
Using gems that don't up your damage changes your mindset from
fuck I need to heal
To
fuck why won't he die

You don't need rally gems to fight in an offensive way and guidance rune will provide enough extra rally.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@TalkBomber
Doing more damage also speeds up the fights, so you'd have less chances to fuck up. There's no reason to favor rather useless properties like tiny health regen over massive damage boosts.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@cum2soon
Damn, well that sucks. So the +18.8% rally gem they talk about in that pic is not real? And neither is guidance 3... fuck. Why does From hate rally so much?

The gem values the guide writers were given was every theoretical effect. The highest listed values assume a Rating 20 gem with no secondary effect. This isn't actually possible since enemies that don't have secondary effects cap at rating 19 (unless we can find a way to get a Ritekeeper into a boss-room to buff the boss). So 28.1% Temperings are impossible, it actually caps at 27.2%

Lethal, Finestrike and Dense gems do not exist, those effects are common as secondary effects but there is no drop source for primary effects of those types. DLC added a Finestrike and a Lethal gem, both of shitty quality, but it proves that they exist in the code as a possible gem. It's just that no one has it in thier loot pool.

If you truly want a Rally build, Madmen have x2 secondary effects. So you could get Physical damage +21% and Rally Potential +5-6% or something instead of the usual 2% (maybe it's higher I dunno).

Best Rally setup would be an Arcane build using a bolt Hunters Axe and three Abhorrent Beast gems (two offshapes) with Rally potential secondary.

Although someone on Reddit apperently found a wandering Abhorrent Beast in Isz. Which would give triangle gems of slightly lower quality than Loran Layer 3 Anhorrent Beast.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@RavySnake
Stake driver and beast cutter
Or logaruius wheel and beast cutter

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Stark_Naked
Try and try again / just sprint past it

Inmate
Inmate

@Gigastrength
Wandering Abhorrent Beast in Isz
Wot

Skullbone
Skullbone

@happy_sad
Beast Cutter and Poison Wheel(s).

One slow poison, one rapid poison and one using Madmen gems that have a moderate amount of both. Confuse the enemy, invade and burn through thier entire stash of vials and antidotes, kill NG+7 living failures or FRC undead in 10 hits.

Poison is not a meme.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@DeathDog
There definitely is reason to use a rally gem (if +18% existed) if you think the fight is fun and you don't want it to be over in 90 seconds. Or if you're just greedy and you can't help attacking too much. Most high-rally weapons like axe, kirk and LHB don't really need the extra-extra damage gem because they already have really high base damage anyway. Sure, they could do absurd damage with a third damage gem, but it's not like they are weak without it.

rather useless properties like tiny health regen
On some weapons the realth regen is insane. It's like taking a blood vial whenever you get a counter hit. It's not useless at all unless you are trying to use it on a weapon with hardly any rally to begin with, like the Kos Parasite or something

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Stupidasole
142 with 50str/34skl/9blt and somwthingsomething.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Inmate
Sorry, I went back and actually read it.

The comment I was referring to was about the rarity of roaming bosses in Isz, and the difficulty involved in getting a screenshot of Abhorrent Beast chasing the hunter through a hallway. They wernt actually related.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Stupidasole
150 something.
I wanna go all the way to 99 arcane.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Dreamworx
Dude you can use some shitty rally gem that is useless if you don't get hit or you can use a gem that gives you 27% more damage, or 31% on blunt weapons or a abyssal that can up your damage even more.

Most high-rally weapons like axe, kirk and LHB don't really need the extra-extra damage gem because they already have really high base damage anyway. Sure, they could do absurd damage with a third damage gem, but it's not like they are weak without it.

Every weapon needs more damage. Every gem you have on your weapon needs to up its damage unless you're doing some poison wheel meme build. Don't listen to the guide when it says to use radiant gems to lower stamina consumption (my fucking sides) or rally gems or other rubbish. The only gems worth using are those that gives your weapon more damage.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@LuckyDusty
Being in this general really brings back memories of /mhg/.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

does anyone ever use the Kos Parasite with their fists to make the fists into a semi-viable PVE weapon? I know it's probably weak as shit but it still can be gemmed and made much stronger than just regular fists

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Firespawn
The thing is that the game is out since March 2015 and by now it's established what works best and what is worthless. Of course you can do your gem meme magic but then don't cry that your get stomped in the fight club or need 20 minutes to fight a frc chalice boss.

@Fuzzy_Logic
It works okayish with flat arcane gems iirc.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Can you give me any PvP tips?

Other than not playing it

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Sir_Gallonhead
Spam gun.

massdebater
massdebater

@Sir_Gallonhead
Get chalice gems and learn to parry attacks as well as heals.

likme
likme

@Sir_Gallonhead
Git faster.
Cut unnecessary moves like r2s and only use them rarely.
Get faster.
Get more precise.

Techpill
Techpill

does the chikage in its tricked form benefit from high skill?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Techpill
no

viagrandad
viagrandad

@haveahappyday
That's dumb

whereismyname
whereismyname

@viagrandad
Your dump lmao

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Techpill
allows you to pump BT and have max melee AND gun damage

bloodletter and bowblade are the same

idontknow
idontknow

@Stupidasole
365

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

How do I stop playing BB? I have played it almost everyday since December started. I still haven't even tried a skill playthrough.

TechHater
TechHater

What weapon did you guys use while building up arcane?

Did you go with saw spear or other? I was thinking on a LHB since it has the same gem slots as the spear but i donĀ“t know if its worth it.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@TechHater
arc axe
15% radial nourishing from mensis, 9% nourishing triangle from under the clinic, 18% arc droplet from brain bridge

could try fire beast cutter if you're sick of saws

Lunatick
Lunatick

@TechHater
LHB, Tonitrus.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@JunkTop
That's the very end of the game, that's not "building up".

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@AwesomeTucker
Ask someone to unshakle you. Say please.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Great One Coldblood

takes2long
takes2long

Can someone give me a tip for thematic build? I got kind of bored o my Gandalf as I already have a str/arc 98 build
preferably skill pls

FastChef
FastChef

@takes2long
Tomb prospector

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Fuzzy_Logic
I kinda wanted to do this for low-level co-op, but I've already had to fight orphan at a low level and fuck that shit

Soft_member
Soft_member

@takes2long
Crowhunter, Cainhurst outcast (planning on doing this one myself soon), Old Hunter with a Saif and the Burial Blade

hairygrape
hairygrape

@FastChef
that's actually pretty good idea, what weapon? Church pick?

StonedTime
StonedTime

Can I get some help with ebrietes im around level 65

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@takes2long
Get skill to 50
Get all skill weapons and all clothes
Build together whatever you want whenever you want

happy_sad
happy_sad

@StonedTime
Chalice or main game?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Fried_Sushi
fine
you beat hotdog twice for 2 fire radials then use the fire waning near the brainsucker

that's literally it

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@StonedTime
yes, pass?

@Soft_member
thanks, but I'll probably do the tomb prospector
tfw no tomb prospectors covenant

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@VisualMaster
Apparently there was supposed to be one, a type of territorial invasion, but it was scrapped before release. I can't imagine why, I would've joined.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@happy_sad
Main game

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@VisualMaster
Sorry new to the game still I thought passwords were only for chalice dungeons I'm on the main game

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@SomethingNew
It really bums me. covenants are unused potential in BB.

happy_sad
happy_sad

tfw you realize threaded cane is the best weapon in the game

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Ignoramus
set a pass nonetheless, it allows us to match together faster and even if my level is higher

Supergrass
Supergrass

I'm confused about burial blade builds. Googled it and people are saying 50skl/25arc while there are saying the arc doesn't make much of a difference and 50skl/25 str is a better overall build.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@ZeroReborn
It would have been great to see a "reverse" Hunters of Hunters covenant, blood-drunk hunters invading with a similar mentality to the Mound Makers. The same rules would apply as Executioner/Cainhurst, the blood-drunks could not assist HoH and immediately turn hostile. Territorial ones in the nightmare, insane hunters dedicated to protecting the Great Ones, be able to give offerings to the Logarius Statue in Cathedral Ward for Executioners, you get the idea. Covenants in BB could have been huge, but we can only "progress" in two of them (good luck getting on the leaderboard, with people duping Vermin and Blood Dregs), and two others are beast/kin transformations.

Emberfire
Emberfire

this cover makes my peepee feel really really weird please help me

StonedTime
StonedTime

3/4 of the covenants in DaS3 are Shit, at least BB has iconic stuff with the execs, vilebloods and hoonters.

@Supergrass
Arc doesn't matter on BB

@Emberfire
Just who is this? It must be Cain, the founder of Cainhurst for sure.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

tfw no eye patch in BB

RumChicken
RumChicken

@StonedTime
Thanks user

massdebater
massdebater

@Emberfire
A peepee should be left well alone.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Who wants help with something? I have 2 hours to kill

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Emberfire
B I G G I R L
I
G

G
I
R
L

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Bidwell
OK I set pass to "m1lf" gonna go ahead and start looking for a chime

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@LuckyDusty
teah ring a beckoning bell at lamp abd I'll be ringing smallie in a sec

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

What is it about opening chests that makes it exciting? Even when I know there's mould or some other ritual material in there I still go, oh boy look at all that treasure I'm about to loot.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@TalkBomber
Would fit right in the aesthetic, shame they didn't include it.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@lostmypassword
Thanks for the help user I dunno if you wanna keep doing some co op but I'm about to go and try and fight mikolash for the first time

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@King_Martha
Not that guy but I'll ring outside the boss room

Playboyize
Playboyize

@BunnyJinx
Kk put on the password "m1lf"

Skullbone
Skullbone

Would you describe Bloodborne lore as overly complicated?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Playboyize
Ringing now

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Skullbone
No, it's the typical Miyazaki "write some obscure shit and autists will fill in the blanks" story

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Skullbone
No.

idontknow
idontknow

@Skullbone
Just because its not spoonfed to you does not make it "overly complicated"

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Playboyize
Is that "M1 -capital i- f" or is it a lowercase L?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@StonedTime
Its Maria, Gehrmans edgiest apprentice. Her sole design is to be bullied as she staggers after most attacks, only aBle to attack via cheap Iframes, which can easily be dodged

@Poker_Star
Probs the reward part of your brain saying, hey well done you found something that looks significant, even if it is a +0.9 Arc up gem-have a pat on the back and do it again. The other part of your brain is the one congratulating you after you beat something "hard" in Bloodborne I beat most things now, learned their patterns etcetc. The only things I find challenging is the wait until BB2 or a new soulsborne-esque game and/or gank spanks in normie PvP

Playboyize
Playboyize

@BunnyJinx
@lostmypassword
yeah sorry for that, I had to fight through upper cathedral and didn't make it in time ringing for mikolas

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Ok this is a very dump question but how do i replay bosses

Inmate
Inmate

@Sharpcharm
NG+. That's it. Although it does get pretty easy to rush to them since you have the weapon upgrades already

Evilember
Evilember

@Sharpcharm
you don't, some bosses are present in chalice dungeons but you can't replay them in the main game, have to wait for NG+. Or ring a smallie in ccase someone need help with it

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Sharpcharm
ng+ my dude, or a new character

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Sharpcharm
replay the game on a new character, ng+ or find them in chalice dungeons

askme
askme

@Sharpcharm
@Inmate
Or you can get summoned for them by the other people.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Playboyize
So if you're Leona I totally just killed you because I forgot to change my rune out

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Skullbone
Spoonfed Redditfag complaining he cant collect lore cards which clearly outline everything that happened in order, rather than having the same perspective as the hunter, who kinda has no idea what the fuck is going on, but plays along anyway.
Figure it out and try to piece the story together yourself, like the hunter you play as would. Much more fun. Most of the cutscenes/characters give you a rough idea of what is going on, Scooby Doo that shit and figure out your own headcanon; then see if it fits with the overall consensus. The only thing people don't know in BB is where Guidance III is located

Pic=BrainFluid.png

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Boy_vs_Girl
all those implied implications in the greentext

M8 you need to calm down.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@JunkTop
Implied Implications
What did he mean by this?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Skullbone
Nope. Vague =/= complicated

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Skullbone
it's miles more comprehensible than dark souls.

RavySnake
RavySnake

What's a good weapon to ease me into strength builds? I've played through the game several times using SKL and BLT weapons, but I just can't wrap my head around the heavy weapons playstyle. Church Pick and Burial Blade are the "heaviest" weapons I can use without getting fucked constantly.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@viagrandad
lurk moar

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@RavySnake
Wheel or the Boomhammer. You really just need to get around them and punish their combos instead of trying to interrupt or stunlock them

RumChicken
RumChicken

@RavySnake
saw cleaver

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@RavySnake
You know you can trick and untrick weapons? You know, if you need to go fast you can just use the silver sword on Kirkhammer for example. Like what kind of question is this, try all out and use the one you like the most.

RavySnake
RavySnake

What do you guys spend your echoes on? I have the storage max of every consumable after farming gems

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Skullbone
Its literally there for you to figure out as the game loads. If that is complicated for you, you need to go back to CDPR/ GTAV tier games where it is nigh given to you on a silver platter whilst the waiter offers to wipe your arse and refill the formula in your bottle-easy for braindead, young, moronic consumers to absorb (if they can be bothered to watch any of the cutscenes anyways) Pic related

Emberburn
Emberburn

@RavySnake
pizza

DeathDog
DeathDog

So what's this poison wheel build I've heard about?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@DeathDog
Bad.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@RavySnake
See
@Emberburn

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Burnblaze
Piss off redditfag. Just read the sticky?
A Shitter is a Shitter, even in a dream...
Away, away-A foul beast!

cum2soon
cum2soon

Buy absolutely everything, then it's a game on how much can you get

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

how the fuck do i beat cauliflower heads in PVP? the range on their R1 is ridiculous; it hits you even when you've literally dodged out of hte way to his left or right and does half my hp in dmg.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Ignoramus
dash R1 punish their dash R1 spam

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Ignoramus
tfw their dash R1

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Sharpcharm
Being this upset that you didn't recognize a dead meme

@Ignoramus
Parry their attacks because they have a 2 second windup

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Sharpcharm
Exquisite. Well memed my friend.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Can you faggots shut the fuck up with your mudslinging and talk more about the game
Thanks

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@DeathDog
Slow=Too slow to be effective
Rapid=Weak form of Frenzy
Imo, both are viable in PvE, rapid should be viable in PvP but you would need to keep constant pressure with the wheel or pizza cutter for it to work (Only 2 weapons where it can be really be utilised)
Someone in FC was trying to make it work 1 or 2 FC's ago because they accidentally found some Korean tier dirty gems whilst farming for normal gems, cant remember who though. Ask again whilst FC is on and they might be on, they will probs know more than this whole thread combined about the viability of poison

farquit
farquit

@RavySnake
Says the mudslinger
Do it yourself, faggot.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@RavySnake
Oooooohhh!

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@RavySnake
T.Mudslinger

Illusionz
Illusionz

@RavySnake
We've got two or three new regular posters, and all they do is shitpost.

Enjoy neo-/bbg/.

Some of the ""oldfags"" actually wanted this

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Illusionz
But what if it were the total effort of one new shitposter, so great that he made us all reply to his mudslinging accusation? /bbg/ is chill most of the time anyways, just ignore/block him, like we do with the trip-poster

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Illusionz
Hey i'm new and I only have legit discussions when I post. Which isn't often

RumChicken
RumChicken

@hairygrape
Church Pick, Ludwig's, Kirk, Threaded Cane, Rosmarinus, Repeating Pistol, maybe Beast Claw since it's in the dungeons and Tomb Prospectors are graverobbers

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

the enemies' blood turn to pale after some time
what did they mean by this?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Anyone for defiled pth hotdog? Pass is dog ringing at the fog

Soft_member
Soft_member

@New_Cliche
I'm cumming

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@New_Cliche
Hey faggot try walking back to the lamp
Thanks

5mileys
5mileys

@Soft_member
just finished it but we can do layer 3 if you want, same pass

thanks hibiki

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Soft_member
I have a homework for bbg, next time we fap we try to do the most Ludwig like Ahhhh that we can do right when we come.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@5mileys
Hibiki is based contributor to /bbg/ summons
I have seen you before. If you are out there, you have a general thanks from me anyways.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I'm actually not even sure what hit me, ringing again

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@haveahappyday
never going to be able to cum again without seeing half of Ludwig's face

Nojokur
Nojokur

Motivate me /bbg/

I'm really bad at the game but I wanna finish my claws build for coop

MPmaster
MPmaster

can finish the game without a single point of damage
coop
die to phase 1 amy

Soft_member
Soft_member

Can Yharnam Stone be used for something?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@MPmaster
its ok we got her, im gonna be moving through more chalices to the queen if you want more co-op

thanks hibiki

askme
askme

@Nojokur
Summon help?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@MPmaster
got self-conscious in company eh?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@happy_sad
I'd love too! Same pass?
@Sharpcharm
It's ridiculous, I try to do things I would never do if playing alone

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Soft_member
insight messengers of the nightmare recognize you as someone very valuable and provides high-end ritual materials (level 5 blood and bloodshrooms)

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Gigastrength
yeah ill be ringing in lower loran layer 1 lamp in a moment need 2 more insight to buy something

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Harmless_Venom
pffftt I want moar

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Gigastrength
alright ringing now in lower loran layer 1, same pss, sorry thta took so long

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@PurpleCharger
obviously you don't get the importance of chalices and incoagulable blood

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Boy_vs_Girl
yeah yeah, all those sweet autism gems. But I want more lore or a new super secret boss that gets unlocked with this stone.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@TalkBomber
buried under layers of nightmare labyrinths
Only 8,2% of the BB players killed Yharnam. You reach her after at least 17 bosses (last one being her giant dog), isn't that enough of an hidden boss?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I got red spider murdered sorry

askme
askme

@Booteefool
but the game spoiled me, I'll always want more

whereismyname
whereismyname

GABRIELLA THIS IS SILVER
HAVE TO GO GET MY FAGGOT YOUNGER BROTHER FROM SCHOOL, SORRY
Thanks for the coop

TreeEater
TreeEater

@whereismyname
thats ok thanks for playing!

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Can someone help me with crow lady?

Last time I talked to her was outside the church. Remember her saying something about her going to hunt some hunter who's gone crazy, and for me NOT to go where ever she was heading. So, I didn't, was worried that it would mess up her quest line/make her angry if I didn't follow her orders (1st/blind play thru)

Anyway, currently making my way through the forest (forbidden?) area, and thought I'd better check up on NPCs (the ol' grumpy grandma, etc.) -- then it reminded me of crow lady, since I haven't seen her since out last encounter. So I warped to the Odeon tomb or whatever it's called, and no-one's there -- crow lady, crazed hunter, or dead bodies.

Looked online (really confused rn...), and apparently you were supposed to go there (even tho she said not to, and seems v stern 'bout it?) pretty much immediately after warping back to The Hunter's Dream at least once.

Have I progressed too far? She seemed really cool, was hoping she's give me her armour or something if I progressed her quest line far enough... is there any way to salvage this? (Also opened all the gates, even bought to 10k just incase even tho I already had it opened... what a waste.)

Thanks for any help.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@VisualMaster
Go to the Cathedral where you fought Amelia once the red moon is out. In the OP is a checklist for collectables and npc interaction, use that for your 2nd playthrough.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@VisualMaster
this reeks of underage redditor

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Harmless_Venom
I wish this was true. I don't want to NG+

Soft_member
Soft_member

@VisualMaster
You won't be able to finish the questline. Your only choice is to head to Grand Cathedral once you reach the blood moon stage of the game.

Bidwell
Bidwell

RIP Hibiki, you will be remembered.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Spamalot
Everyone here was a newfag once and he's being polite about it, leave it be. Questlines in Bloodborne can be obscure at best. It's no DS3, but still.

askme
askme

@Spamalot
Sorry, I didn't shower for some time now.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@kizzmybutt
I meant he types like an underage redditor, don't care if he's new

Soft_member
Soft_member

tfw arrow spamming in mergos pvp

Evilember
Evilember

ringing in pth ihyll challice layer 1 hibiki, time to kill the queen

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Evilember
want some extra halp?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Illusionz
sure, pass is dog

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@hairygrape
Shhh, it's alright.

w8t4u
w8t4u

make an frc dungeon
open chest
cursed odd arcane gem
add 74.3 arcane
increase stamina
Didn't know those could go that high

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

is there any way to filter srrc by which type dungeon to look for the bell in?
if not then there should be

Techpill
Techpill

@Emberburn
searching now, hopefully wont take long.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@VisualMaster
your quest will have another challenger in the cathedral
you won't get the hunter's rune

@TalkBomber
the stone only unlocks the blood and mushblood, not the body part materials (you'll need to kill gehrman to get these)

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Sir_Gallonhead
No.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Nojokur
@Soft_member
Thanks, shame. Did I just leave it too late? Seems like I was on track, but the wiki doesn't specific a cut-off point where she'll disappear.

@Spamalot
Just trying to provide enough info, instead of asking vague, redundant question which would lead to multiple replies.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Soft_member
Tfw you have the Loch Shield in your second offhand slot in the Loft for the common BLT bullet spammer, uncommon ARC tool spammer and the rare Arrow spammer
Its quite shocking how hard the shield can mitigate damage as long as you still move around as usual, yet is still underused and deemed shit-tier.
It's not a Dark Souls shield-the moment you realise that, you can use it and its wooden brother (earlygame/pre loch shield only) to mitigate a good chunk of ranged burst damage often.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@PurpleCharger
The trigger is touching the skull and if you then reload the are (e.g. if you go to Hunters Dream) she'll be gone. Ignore the wiki for now and just roll through, the first playthrough is always a mess.

whereismyname
whereismyname

I wish the wiki would stay off speculations and stick to proven stuff. we have youtube memers for speculation.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I never got an inflicted organ nor a yellow backbone from the dogs during the game, so why does the hunter cut one in half, during the opening kinematic?

iluvmen
iluvmen

250+ hours in the game
platinum
6 characters on 120 or 98 meta level
sverak hours in FRC dungeons to get good gems
start a new game after a long time and everything is pretty easy
papa gascoigne enters his 3rd stage
heart starts racing
mfw
I can never keep my head calm when he goes berserk, amazing first boss desu

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

is 870 damage good for a chikage unzip?

girlDog
girlDog

@SomethingNew
at blt 50 and chalices gems, it's average

happy_sad
happy_sad

@SomethingNew
A full blood chikage with 50 blt does around 1000-1100 on unzip.

So 870 is pretty decent.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@whereismyname
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com

It's like newfags don't even read the stuff in the OP.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Crazy_Nice
The plot of dark souls is infinitely more comprehensible than bloodborne

Dark Souls
clear establishment of who the major players in the world are
there's an ancient prophecy about the undead, ring this bell.
ring bell, ancient serpent tells you fate of the undead, relink the fire and end undead curse. Everything from there is in service to trying to link the fire (yeah there's shit with Kaathe but this is the perspective of a first playthrough)

Bloodborne
you're in yharnam getting treatment for some disease
werewolves errywhere
die, go to a dream, some old fuck tells you to just kill beasts, a note on the ground tells you to "seek paleblood"
wander around killing random shit, eventually find way into mensis nightmare and game over

I prefer the gameplay of bb but the story of dark souls is a lot more comprehensible. Having obscure player character motivation doesn't necessarily make BB better.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@iluvmen
It's the perfect mix of gameplay, sound, music and pacing, you can never have a truly flatline reaction unless you're playing the game muted or something.

Methshot
Methshot

@iluvmen
I always just put him instantly to form 3 so his first two forms are more crazy.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Stark_Naked
Because it looks cool

@iluvmen
Implying the first boss is the best boss
I feel you man, the best thing is with Ludwig/Kos coming later, its even better. I mean either Cleric Beast or Gascoigne shits on most other first game bosses
Huge fucking animal, bigger than everything you have seen so far, that just jumps over a huge wall like it was a farmers gate
Or
A guy you could previously summon- also the first hunter you see in action bar you, which transforms with an imposing battle theme on top

hairygrape
hairygrape

@StrangeWizard
Bullshit, there's more to bb plot than that. After you kill Amelia you get a glimpse of Willem and Byrgenwerth, reaching that place you see that their dabbling created this mess and that the Great Ones need to be disposed of in order to lift the nightmare.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

tfw fight for Maria's weapon costed me 3 bone daggers and 5 tries
I don't even know why I'm doing it.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Boy_vs_Girl
gotta collect all the treasure

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@StrangeWizard
Gilbert tells you to get into cathedral ward
gates are closed what do?
Granpa tells you to go to OY
meet Alfred on the way
bla bla bla Healing Church
bla bla bla Burgerworth
finish OY and find way to open gates
oh hey healing church, let's check the big cathedral
only werewolf girl and some skull with some adage
oh hey burgerworth
kill some spider in a lake
find the nightmare newborn and silence it's cries!
find newborn and silence it's cries
Granpa says gg and cuts my head off

Idk seems kinda okay for me.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@SomethingNew
@happy_sad
unzip

What is this

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Boy_vs_Girl
7zip. Used to compress stuff.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@StrangeWizard
Dark Souls gives you simpler, more comprehensible objectives as a player, at least at the start, but overall setting and story are much more obscure and incoherent, in my opinion.

All the cycles shit, lords of cinder, abyss, humanity, "gods", completely incomprehensible time periods, a lot of kingdoms we never see functioning, changing world map etc. etc.

Meanwhile Bloodborne has a lot of unclear stuff in the background (Pthumerians, Loran, Queen Yharnam and the like), but it's core is a coherent story of Byrgenwerth's folly. I find Bloodborne's personalities much more relatable and general progression of events more of a story and less of a mish-mash of myths and legends and half-forgotten things.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@BlogWobbles
Granpa says gg and cuts my head off

Methshot
Methshot

@Boy_vs_Girl
Rakuyo is pretty great, it's worth it.
Unless you're not running a skill build in which case you're just a completionist like me.

w8t4u
w8t4u

tfw that old guy in the wheelchair in the tower thing up the lift from oeden chapel with his 30000000000000 caliber rifle
tfw getting shot off the ledge

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Methshot
I'm on my first playthrough with STR/random shit build. I want to see what I can. And do decent build some time later. Moveset of this thing is cash though. I want to do some well thought SKL/BTG build sometime soon after small break.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Boy_vs_Girl
I do it every playthrough just to show myself I can.
Hardest goddamn fight in the game.
Except maybe HMPH.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

is 50 arc enough for pvp and frc dungeons on 98 build?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@New_Cliche
totally playing bb with headphones makes it a different experience

@Methshot
how do you put him instantly to phase 3?

@Snarelure
He is the best first boss in any game I have ever played desu. Kos pressures you kuch more but he can be easily parried which cools me down. Ludwig's aggresivity is really great but I Papa still makes my heart race more, not saying he is better boss than the two, but I just don't know how to fight him and his jumping attacks are so fast. I usually jist run and throw molotovs at him on ng, on next playthroughs I just use firepaper to kill him quickly.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@haveahappyday
Yes.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@PurpleCharger
If you use the music box three times he'll automatically go to phase 3.

His third phase is pretty easy so I just do that.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Flameblow
HMPH
just parry nigga

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Ignoramus
@Ignoramus
Dark souls lore only really becomes messy over the course of 2 and 3 being really bloated messes in terms of story/lore that I think are a lot weaker than the first. Lordran and the story of linking the fire is pretty tight in DaS1 and doesn't bring in that stupid shit with cycles (cough sequels) and just focuses on the current characters that are apart of the world rather than the time travel/lords of DaS3 and just the random shit of DaS2 where you don't even know a character is important until you've killed them

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Flameblow
parry zero-startup HMPH

Teach me sensei.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@PurpleCharger
mfw I heard Yharnam citizens talking to themselves for the first time
this game mane

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Do not worry Hibiki, I have killed her. Thank you for the help! Now I have platinum.

And thank you too Max and Silver.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Flameblow
tfw doing this fight for fun

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Boy_vs_Girl
Press L1 followed by R1

askme
askme

i think i asked this in the previous thred but i just wanted abit more input, on a SL98 planned str build is it worth putting 1 extra point into skill to be able to use the cannon?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Boy_vs_Girl
@Flameblow
You can actually parry the shark giants pretty easily.
And I personally never manged to parry HMPH even once.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@askme
Post your planned build.

farquit
farquit

Finally reach Queen Yharnam.
She splits into three copies.
"oh fuck"
Run up and smack one of them.
Dissipates in one hit.

That fight was kind of disappointing for all the effort you have to go through to get to it.

idontknow
idontknow

@askme
Yes, you can fit 25 Skill into a BL98 Strength build easily with no major Vit cut.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@PurpleCharger
Those guys were memorable enough that I didn't mind them. They made people think about how to kill them.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@BlogWobbles
Tfw seeing my name on BBG

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@JunkTop
Stand about 7 feet back
He'll swing, the first hit will miss without dodging, parry the second

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Boy_vs_Girl
The dash L1. It unzips the blade from its' sheath with an audible sound and an attack, them can be shook off after to lose minimal health for maximum damage

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Need_TLC
THIS STENCH

eGremlin
eGremlin

@BunnyJinx
I hope I live through the night
I know you're there stranger
2spooky

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@BlogWobbles
@Evil_kitten
Is Hibiki the local Blanche/Charlotte?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@BunnyJinx
SMELLS LIKE JEWS, STRANGER

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

If I want to do a Rakuyo/BoM skl build. I am thinking 50/50 vit/skl but where should I put the remaining points? I was thinking endurance when I don't really need Strength. What do you guys think it's the best way to go?

@Snarelure
@Snarelure
how is hos 3rd stage easier sempai? You can parry his attack and generally he is slow and you can hot him easily. He then moves super fast and can't be parried and doesn't stagger at all.
How do you do it?

Inmate
Inmate

why was this even a thing

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

wonder why my damage feels so low
realize it's because I'm leveling two stats (skill and bloodtinge) equally instead of just pumping one then the other since there's no weapon that simultaneously benefits from both

I mean it's fun getting to bowblade dudes with both its forms but I'm probably missing out on a couple hundred points of damage until I get 50 in both

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Evil_kitten
Take him up to the balcony and just wait for him to do the flurry attack.

He can't actually hit you if you just walk to his sides so he has one attack.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Evil_kitten
He then moves super fast and can't be parried and doesn't stagger at all.
Both false.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Evil_kitten
If it's just BoM/Rakuyo, you don't need any Strength investment above 10. Several Skill weapons still benefit 25 Strength like Saif, Burial Blade, Church Pick, etc. 10 Blt for Bowblade and Reiter. 15-18 Arc for Hunter Tools, 20 for Exe gloves for an extra edge. 20 End with an Anti-Clock or 2 is enough for everything. 25 Blt is a bit dumb but if you aren't interested in any of the other options I suppose you might as well go for it.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@eGremlin
@VisualMaster
Does anyone know what that huntsman says right after you pass arianna and go up the stairs? He stands next to the rifleman and calls out the rest of the mob. I know it's unique to him because it always sounds like something only he says during that encounter.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

How do I take on those huge snakepile things in the Forbidden Woods? the ones that spit poison at you and shit

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Bored
Need a Radial Cold Abyssal for my Hunter's Axe
"Guess I'll go get one"
Get it in about 20 minutes
Bored again

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Crazy_Nice
Dodge behind them

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Crazy_Nice
Like every other enemy in the game.
enemy starts flailing its weapon/claws/tentacles aimlessly in all directions
parry them or dodge behind them and backstab

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

does the tricked Reiter do more damage than Evelyn at high blt?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@VisualMaster
Absolutely not

Evilember
Evilember

@Garbage Can Lid
What the hell is that damage?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

which is better for str builds, a triangle slot or crescent slot?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@VisualMaster
With full 31.5% OoS yes if you aren't using BMA on the Evelyn.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Deadlyinx
read the O P it's a triangle your welcome

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

tfw pvp is a lot more fun without guns
Guns should have to be manually reload after every shot. The repeater could have 2 shots then need to be reloaded.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Was he just trying to do the right thing?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Are Laurence and Ludwig the only bosses you can summon Valtr for?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Skullbone
Absolutely not. He was a zealot.

farquit
farquit

@Evil_kitten
A-actually I'm Silver
I was more popular months ago but I stopped playing and now I'm back

Supergrass
Supergrass

is there any way to equip fashion gear in this game? I really want to wear the top hat, but the stats are shite

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Supergrass
bothering with stats over fashion in BB

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Supergrass
Stats mean very little, except with Poison and Frenzy.
Possibly beasthood too but I've never gone in for that so idk.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Supergrass
caring about armor stats in a souls game

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Supergrass
thinking those stats really matter

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Supergrass
is there any way to equip fashion gear in this game?
Literally the only way there is. Unless for special occasions like stacking poison or frenzy resist armor stats don't matter for shit.

Playboyize
Playboyize

How high do I actually have to level END? I can't tell who to trust since some people say to leave it at base while other say 20-30 is the meta.

5mileys
5mileys

so im aiming for SL98 and im currently at 78 on my arc build with the stats 40/12/10/11/5/50. where should i go now with it point wise to make it ideal for pvp and frc?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Playboyize
Just level it to 15, run with it for a while and get a feel whether that's enough for you or not. In my experience it's just fine for any weapon that's not particularly stamina-heavy.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Playboyize
Base, maybe put one or two points.

I mean, just get in game and try spamming r1. See how many times you can hit, if you really need to hit more than 10 times then go for END but those stats definitely could be better spent elsewhere.

And even if you do think you need more END why not just run a rune which does more than a couple of levels.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Playboyize
Go to 40 and equip 2 counter clockwise runes to combo the entire game to death on NGMax

Emberburn
Emberburn

@5mileys
It's ideal for FRC now but you could either get Arc to 70 for extra Hunter Tool damage or put some into Str/Skl to meet weapon requirements. 25/12+ for Str/Arc.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Forbidden Woods dude here

Stumbled upon some area with a bunch of blue aliens, but it just leads to a dead end. Did I do something wrong?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Firespawn
That's what I was thinking. I just find it weird since going from 8-15 end gives me 12 stamina, which isn't even enough for a single hit with the weapon I'm using.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Garbage Can Lid
no thats just how it is, theres some insight things there but thats it

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Emberburn
would it be worth putting afew points in stam?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@SniperWish
Yeah, more END certainly helps in PvE where R1 spam is viable but in pvp you don't need to spam your weapon that much and if you are chances are you'll get parried and die.

Better to put it into ARC for tools or some other dump stat.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Harmless_Venom

thanks. I also found this elevator that connects to the first elevator. will it stay that way now?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Sir_Gallonhead
Nah, just slap a 20% Anti-Clock Rune and you're fine. I run 12 End on my Pure Arc and Str/Arc builds, never complained about it.

takes2long
takes2long

@Playboyize
20 has been working fine for me with a counterclockwise rune, but 15-20 should work fine with runes. You really wouldn't need anything past 25, unless you won't be using runes to increase it. Keep in mind, endurance also boosts poison resistances, however slightly.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

i'm autistically grinding gems from the winter lanterns, i have a full set of 22.3% Kin DMG Down for my Chikage, and a second set for my Bloodletter.

However for the sake of my guns, does durability down really matter? I doubt guns get that worn out right?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@BunnyJinx
It does not affect guns, neither does stam curse.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@MPmaster
wait so if i have stam curse, it wont affect the stamina cost of my weapon swings/rolls?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@cum2soon
use it then yes

cum2soon
cum2soon

@cum2soon
Yes it will, you made a shortcut
Congrats
You'll make another more convenient one very soon
Guarded by a very nice man with an axe

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@GoogleCat
It won't affect guns at all. It's very unnoticeable on weapons, doesn't affect rolls. It's the best curse for general use.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

anyone wanna help with lower loran abhorrent beast? password is boltmeme

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Sir_Gallonhead
oh really? i thought it would be awful so i've been farming exclusively kin down

mfw (5)

likme
likme

@Burnblaze
It's a good curse, Kin as well since there's not a lot of Kin. Dura Down for a few right-hand weapons if you don't mind repairing everytime you go the Dream. Dura Down doesn't affect Bowblade arrows too.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@likme
wait so if i'm exlusively using the bowblade for arrow form i can put 3 dura down gems into it and it wont break on me?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Boy_vs_Girl
yes, all my dura gems go into my bowblade

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Boy_vs_Girl
Yup

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

tfw vaping (like an autist), pizza, diet coke and bloodborne
the rest of my life might be bad, but my life when im on bloodborne is cozy

Booteefool
Booteefool

tfw can't make a buff chick in BB

girlDog
girlDog

What's the optimal skill build look like? I know everything else goes like 50/25 but I doubt skill builds get all that much out of strength?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Booteefool
Large Upper Body
Aged Female Voice
wear big armor like Butcher's or Executioner's

Emberfire
Emberfire

@VisualMaster
Pro-tip: next tine you see someone using Blades of Mercy, pull out the wooden shield.

I've had invaders blank out because my four Pulsing gems (I had two offshapes) were out-healing them. And an entire stamina bar of R1 spam left me with about half my stamina.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@girlDog
Some Skill weapons do get extra damage from 25 Strength like @TreeEater
mentioned

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Emberfire
just tried this in mergos, fucked up their attempt at BoM

Techpill
Techpill

@MPmaster
Would I lose out on anything by pushing all the way to level 117? Where else should I invest points into beyond 50 vit, 20 end, 50 skl, 25 str?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Techpill
117 came from 98, which has its own benefits that you'll miss out. I'd say Arc for Tools would be nice.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Burnblaze
Wouldn't I have to leave strength at base if I wanted to go 98?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Bidwell
Nah, you could fit 25 Strength on a Bl98 Skill build without any major loss. Something like MV: 45/15/25/50/7/6

Spamalot
Spamalot

tfw showing Amelia a good time

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Burnblaze
What benefits does 98 have? This is apparently a huge issue of debate, but I frankly don't see any upside.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@AwesomeTucker
Avoids 150?

Don't really see why that matters.

askme
askme

@AwesomeTucker
avoids 150
closer to 100 (where builds are still builds)

Snarelure
Snarelure

@AwesomeTucker
hundreds of hours of research in cum, memes, lore, pvp and more memes went into deciding that 98 was the best meta

Techpill
Techpill

@AwesomeTucker
Avoids Reddit 150s, avoids getting invaded by 120s, can invade down to 80, fairly good co-op range, able to have 50 and 25 in two damage stats with 40-50 Vit usually. It's a meta thing but not a big deal, 117 was created to invade 98s with a level advantage.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Emberfire
@askme
Wouldn't 117 serve the same purpose? I would think it could avoid the 150s, still get summons/be summoned, be the improved version of 98 with an edge.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I've never used the amygdalan arm, Logarius Wheel, Stake Driver, or Tonitrus, AMA.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@New_Cliche
150s can't invade you but you can invade them at 117. Several people don't like going above 100 either, 120 is the universal meta but even people here abhor it.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Firespawn
Staying away from 120, I can understand that, it seems too close for 150s to invade. Not going past 100 just seems excessive, though. I usually play 110 and plan on 117s in the future, and I've never had a major problem.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Firespawn
120 is the universal meta but even people here abhor it.
Because it's too high for the greatest part. 117 is enough for a 4x/4x hybrid, and more than enough for a 25/25/50 HMLS build.

And honestly the game just stops being difficult at those levels. Trying to keep your BL and Vit/End as low as possible is a nice way to retain some semblance of challenge.

Spamalot
Spamalot

anyone who goes above 98 is no better than a beast

Supergrass
Supergrass

what would be the best SL98 arcane build?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@RumChicken
At 120 and above? Past that just seems excessive to me.
@Spamalot
Even beasts were once human. Did Djura teach you nothing? Consider that the beast moves in one direction: forward. It keeps coming, never ceasing attempts to satisfy it's bloodlust. It uses whatever it can to obtain its target. Beasts themselves were used for the creation of hunter equipment we wouldn't survive without (Beast Roar, Beast Claw, Blood Pellets, various runes). They're amazingly versatile, able to take a multitude of forms from the humanoid to the oversized. We don't hunt them out of hatred, we hunt them because we fear them. Djura knew this, but his uncommon kindness and dreadful foolishness prevented him from revealing his proof to the hunter communities.

askme
askme

@GoogleCat
No

@Techpill
50/25 With 50 Vit and 20 End standard
No
Its 50/20/One max stat/Three min stats. Thats why the Chikamemers and the HMSfags get away with 117, otherwise they would have a near useless weapon. I can tell you haven't made a /bbg/ PvP character yet if you spout this bs

Inmate
Inmate

@Supergrass
Depends if it's Pure Arc or Str/Arc and what weapons you wanna use

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Supergrass
waste of skin
31/8/12/9/5/99

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Supergrass
best for pve anyway

MPmaster
MPmaster

@askme
I never mentioned End you idiot

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Supergrass
Cruel Fate, 44/12/16/20/5/50 can use every convertible weapon in the game except Stake Driver at BL97.

At BL99 (18str) it could use every convertible weapon.

If you want the Stake Driver and not the Rakuyo, 44/12/18/14/5/50 leaves you at BL93; 5 levels to play with.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Soft_member
Beast are good because if they didn't exist, we wouldn't have anything cool to hunt them with!
Venomous creatures are good because without them, we wouldn't have antivenom to treat bites from venomous creatures
Do you see the flaw in your logic?
You unsightly beast apologist

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@CouchChiller
31
kek, have fun doing frc with 31

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@PurpleCharger
2 clockwise and 31=1420 hp

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Nude_Bikergirl
FRC

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Snarelure
Sorry should I have halved that for you too? I know math is hard for amerifats, that would be 710 which is still fine.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Nude_Bikergirl
and then take off what you lose in frc. youll be well memed

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Ignoramus
IMO bring that Vit up to 49. Steak dinner needs more end too to function viably, otherwise its just a waste of a build.

From experience, redistribute End to 20 by either 50Str/min stats or min stats/50arc for a Steak build

Supergrass
Supergrass

@PurpleCharger
I did it with 30
It isn't that bad at all

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Stupidasole
Has all that insight fried your brain? I never said the beasts were good. Hell, I never even insinuated that. We started using them in the hunt partially because we feared them and we saw how powerful they were. We took something we grasped as more powerful than we, and tried to weaponize it to use it against them. It worked. The beast itself is horrifying, and infinitely more powerful than an unarmed human.
They're stronger than we are, and we both hate and fear them for it. We tried emulating them, and it worked decently.
Venomous creatures are good because without them, we wouldnt have antivenom to treat bites from venomous creatures
Which could lead to a better exploration of medicine and treatment that isn't even involved with the venomous creatures.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@w8t4u
Fine
Good post, top keks were indeed had. What you need however, are more eye runes

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@SomethingNew
I'm sorry that you're so shit at the game you can't do FRC with 31 vit.

askme
askme

@SomethingNew
inb4 "sorry you can't handle FRCs at 710HP bro :^)"

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Evil_kitten
@askme
toppest of keks

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Harmless_Venom
Not the point I was making
We need Lion cages because Lions
We need Fly Spray because Flys
We need Shark Repellant because Sharks
We need Veeky Forums because Autists
No Beasts=No need for Beast hunting tools, everyone is happy

Just hunt some beasts, it's for your own good

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Evil_kitten
@askme
PvP is easy. Keep Vit at its minimum and don't get hit :DDDD le funni me me :D

StonedTime
StonedTime

Thread full of shitters today. At least luci isn't here.

TreeEater
TreeEater

How does: 45/18/18/12/5/50 sound for a 98 PVE/PVP arcane build? 18/12 for the whirligig saw.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@StonedTime
He is always here. He just turned his tripcode off, so people would look at him. Wouldn't be surprised if he turns it back on and says Hi to you. Or he could be annoying /dsg/. Who knows? Who cares?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@TreeEater
MM says Whirli only needs 16. You could go 16/14 and get the Church Pick.

18 End is overkill IMO. 15 at most.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@TreeEater
18 END
knock 5 off that and put it in VIT

WebTool
WebTool

@Ignoramus
Not the point I'm trying to make
The beast is a creature we hate and fear because it stands over us in strength, and we do not understand it. Thus, we want what they have, which came through runes, weapons, and tools. A lack of them in the beginning would be the easiest solution, but with that not being the case, we use whatever we can, even if it means becoming our enemy.
At this point, I have no idea what we're even arguing about anymore. Any more shitting of this degree, and we'll summon Lucy from his hole. Call it at "Beasts are inherently evil, we both hate and fear them, without them we wouldn't need to make these absurd weapons."
This argument started because of a level disagreement and the usage of "beast" as an insult.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@StonedTime
saw 18 bruh according to the game

JunkTop
JunkTop

oops, @kizzmybutt
meant for @whereismyname

MPmaster
MPmaster

@TreeEater
It's what I have actually, works very well, shreds beasts with a fire gem on it. You need more End than you think with Whirli, so I just put on 2 Anticlocks and 1Clock on and that does the trick. Good luck with the build my dude, may the good blood guide you

hairygrape
hairygrape

can simebody help me getting through Cainhurst? I just opened the elevator shortcut and have a strong feeling I won't kiill logarius alone.
beckoning, pass is "filth" without quotes

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@TreeEater
@whereismyname
@w8t4u
reworked: 41/15/25/12/5/50 what about that so i oculd potentially use HMLS and tonitrus better

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@WebTool
Agreed, not worth waking Luci up over a simple error.

Ahh, But what we need are need are more ayys

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@GoogleCat
looks fine, make sure to go clock2/clock3/anticlock3 if you plan on doing FRC

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Sharpcharm
Can never have too many ayys.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@StrangeWizard
alright thanks. as @MPmaster
said, atleast 15 stam because of whirlimeme taking up alot

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Does anyone know if the jp version of Bloodborne has any differences with the western version outside the jp voice track? Even something network related like what server it connects to?

girlDog
girlDog

@GoogleCat
I'd run it. Looks good. 41 Vit can be tough though. I hate going below 44.

TechHater
TechHater

@GoogleCat
Whirligig chews up End, one of the few weapons I keep End closer to 20 than 15. Last build was best, this one isn't as good for Pizzigig

King_Martha
King_Martha

@hairygrape
ok just ringing at fog before Logarius

Techpill
Techpill

@girlDog
im abit hesistant about going under 45 personally but fuck it, maybe itll force me to git gud

5mileys
5mileys

tfw you notice a note you made has a foul rating
i genuinely hate it when it has alot of fines and some cunt rates it foul

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@iluvmen
What we need, are ayys on the inside

@Stupidasole
Not him, but I agree with him, you need that shit closer to 20 than 15 to use Whirli. Last build was fine, with 2 anticlocks

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Fried_Sushi
A few of the names have different literal translations (Bloodletter literally translates to Phelbotomy Hammer, and absurdly apt name), but I wouldn't imagine there being any differences past trivial things.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

anyone wanna help me with lower loran abhorrent beast? password is boltmeme

Emberfire
Emberfire

@5mileys
tfw you rated foul by accident while trying to rate fine

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Burnblaze
Grant us ayys, grant us ayys.
Now this is the shitposting I can get behind.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@5mileys
When it says 'Take a step forward' next to a cliff/Hemwick Bridge/a fire
362 Fine

That shit deserves fouling, poor newfags could hurt themselves

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Spamalot
99% of builds come in way below 98 too. You don't even have to try to squeeze until you start doing hybrids.

girlDog
girlDog

@Burnblaze
41/15/25/12/5/50
so will 15 could be ok on the 41/15/25/12/5/50 for whirli aslong as i use anticlocks?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@TurtleCat
We are thinking on the basest of playyynes. What we need...is more ayys

Nojokur
Nojokur

Post webms

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Nude_Bikergirl
my best only has 5 and its beware of liar outside iosefkas door. new character though tbf

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Lunatick
no build with 50 vit

Techpill
Techpill

@Spamalot
I went to 137 so I could help you shit on bosses
I-I just wanted to help

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@girlDog
Anticlocks are %based. 20 would've been optimal on the build, as the extra effective % mean I could've slapped 2 cocks and an anticlock, rather than 2 anticlocks and a clock. I would go on a limb an say it's worth the investment in End at a cost to Vit, as the extra clock would've more than made up for the points lost in not having the Clock (15% of 1409 or 25% of 1332 or something like that)

idontknow
idontknow

@whereismyname
MM is wrong, whirligig needs 18 str

Emberfire
Emberfire

@CouchChiller
but then id be at 36 vit and id probably get fully memed in frc. 16 would be ok with 40 vit?

Illusionz
Illusionz

I have your new message ringtone good hunter
https://my.mixtape.moe/rmjzoc.mp3

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

If I make an executioner twink for cainhurst, how will I identify whether the people I invade are proud executioners in training or filthy vilebloods trying to get to their disgusting queen?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Emberfire
@CouchChiller
is an idiot. Just ignore him.

Don't go to 40 Vit.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@PackManBrainlure
How to get ratings-a quick guide

Go to a main route area, preferably earlygame
Whatever you wanna say
'But rating is effective'/'but don't forget rating'

Eg Outside Gascoigne='Treat Hunter with care, but rating is effective' 342 Fines 5 Fouls before getting to BL98
Don't forget to lock those Notes as well, otherwise you could accidentally delete one (8 up at one time)

Repeat X7

WebTool
WebTool

@eGremlin
The immense brayyn that Mensis retrieved from the nightmare was indeed lined with ayys on the inside, but they were of an evil sort, and the brayyn itself was terrible rotten.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@CouchChiller
You take your autism pills.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@BinaryMan
t. vilecuck

5mileys
5mileys

@MPmaster
Over here! It brings sickness and death

Skullbone
Skullbone

@CouchChiller
Actually, summon yourself for people. If they're proud Executioners or innocent hunters, you can assist them in reaching the queen to extract justice.
If they're filthy blood heretics, you will arrive to deliver a swift punishment, adding another smear onto your Wheel.

Emberburn
Emberburn

tfw Vileblood Queen
tfw masked girls are your fetish

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Skullbone
But they wouldn't have the vileblood oath yet if they're fighting logarius

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Illusionz
kek

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@King_Martha
@hairygrape
pls, bl:42
do it for alfred

hairygrape
hairygrape

Amelia turned Satanist

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Emberfire
I meant with the first build you posted. Of course take the hit to Str before the hit to Vit, but it is exclusively to shred with an Arc Whirli. Dont try some, Steak/Whirl/HMS bs, you can only equip 2 at a time. With the first whirli build you posted, you go Whirligig/Kos para, for the shredder and the S-Scaling tentacles
Tonitrus works with previous build
HMS=50Str/Rest Arc
Steak=50Str/Rest Skl

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@PurpleCharger
Fair enough. There wouldn't be any way to know until you're gone. Hopefully, they know the right choice.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@hairygrape
user pls

viagrandad
viagrandad

@hairygrape
wears a bra
huh

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@WebTool
Please, oh Hunter, please get me some Brayyn fluid, I need some Brayyn fluid so much

@hairygrape
Stop it. Get some help.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Sir_Gallonhead
Are you giving him such retarded advice on purpose? Or are you just actually retarded?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@CouchChiller
Its easy to tell whether they levelled dex or strength

WebTool
WebTool

Why does Amelia scream so much?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@WebTool
cos she wants the dick

idontknow
idontknow

@Emberfire
have done this multiple times

I'm so sorry, whoever left those notes.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Sir_Gallonhead
To clarify, either
45/18/18/12/5/50 (Your first)
44/19/18/12/5/50 (Idfk)
43/20/18/12/5/50 (What I would recommend from experience with the build)

With the final being my pick of choice for a Whirl/KosPara/Tonitrus build only. No plebbitfriendly LHB or HMS allowed.

askme
askme

@WebTool
Because you don't pet her enough.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@askme
my dick

JunkTop
JunkTop

@SniperGod
If you are gonna shitpost Luci, at least turn on your tripcode. I can tell your style of phrasing things a mile off.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Supergrass
T. /s/fur
You need to go back

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@JunkTop
if you know its luci then why are you replying to him

RavySnake
RavySnake

@JunkTop
As long as we don't reference him or even think about him, we won't summon him from his hole.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Who is talking about cursing whom wen the amygdala transports you to hunter's jightmare?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Sharpcharm
Because you're Lucy!
I'm Lucy!
Everyone is Lucy!

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Welp, now Im having trouble with the Shadows of Yharnam, ANOTHER fucking boss that Im sure nobody else here has had issues with. Think ill just grind until Im around, say, Level 80 or so. I dont care if it makes the rest of this Christfucking game a cakewalk, Im so sick of getting trolled by this shit. Also, fuck the LHB. Ive dumped tons of SKL into it, and its still pissweak compared to my +6 Hunters Axe. Holy shit Im so fucking angry now. Time to turn this game off.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@eGremlin
someones cursing the hunters who fucked up the fishing hamlet

MPmaster
MPmaster

@eGremlin
Maria. People will say it's not Maria, that it's Kos or some shit. But it sounds like Maria

Methnerd
Methnerd

@eGremlin
Kos cursing the hunters who hunted in the Fishing Hamlet, and every hunter after them.
@MPmaster
Not really. It's far huskier than Maria's, the accent is much more pronounced, and Maria would have been in with the group hunting in the Fishing Hamlet.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@JunkTop
I've never heard him openly insult anyone. He usually deflects by upselling himself. I'm not the tripfag, just an user wondering why you don't seem to understand that Stake Driver is convertible and that 20End is ridiculous overkill.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Carnalpleasure
Join the League. Bring Henryk and Madaras. It turns into a 3v3.

Firespawn
Firespawn

tfw you remember when luci mentioned his mom killed herself

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Carnalpleasure
kosm, dude

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Nude_Bikergirl
I made one such note infront of a cliff rock that you fall through in the beginning of Forbidden Woods.
It's rather popular.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Carnalpleasure
Also, fuck the LHB. Ive dumped tons of SKL into it,

Bidwell
Bidwell

If you use the saif you are a fag

Supergrass
Supergrass

anyone wanna help me with camerabeast?
password is boltdog

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@PurpleCharger
Unlike you

TreeEater
TreeEater

@5mileys
Leave note before queen along the lines of "Wondrous woman therefore time for seduction". Pretty sure Executioner fags are fouling it

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Forgive me
But I only see 1 flat fire gem and it's a waning
There is no flat bolt/fire radial triangles?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Bidwell
Funny story about the Saif, actually.
Going through Nightmare of Mensis
Just want to finish quickly to turn into a squid
Get invaded by some guy cosplaying as a Crowhunter
Remain still and lock onto him, wait for him to come closer
R1 dash with Saif, lock him in combo
He's dead in 5 seconds
I think that moment was my induction to the society of shitters. An asshole move, but I just wanted to get through the place.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Bidwell
no you

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Carnalpleasure
Need help user?

FastChef
FastChef

thanks for the help with camerabeast

idontknow
idontknow

@TreeEater
HA HA

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

25/50 str/arc vs 50/25 str/arc for hmls?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Nude_Bikergirl
What the actual fuck is that picture?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@LuckyDusty
The cosmos of course

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Carnalpleasure
50/25 for good basic attacks in either form; 25/50 for marginal basic attacks in either form but great beam attacks.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Supergrass
Booting up now, on my way. Fixed Lower Loran, correct?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@StonedTime
done soon after i posted that mate sorry ;_;

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@FastChef
@Bidwell
God dammit Hibiki, quit getting my hopes up.

Good to have you back m8

massdebater
massdebater

@Stark_Naked
tfw hibiki is absolutely everywhere
tfw hibiki is basically a guardian angel for shit people

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Carnalpleasure
Focus fireball dude, then Katana, them final one.
Whilst focussing one Mr.Fireballs, get the other 2 stuck on one of the graves
Use bolt paper
Dont worry, I struggled with Shadows first time through. Grind until you can clear the bottom part of the Forest without getting killed. Good Luck and try to keep spoilers to a minimum.
May the good blood guide you.

@DeathDog
Steak dinner scales better with Str, so max out Str to get best use. In this game/ 98BL meta, 25/25 is good for nothing, so just max out the best attribute and call it a day. As far as I am aware for the other quality weapons, Cleaver/Claws/Steak=Better Str scale
SSpear=Better Skl scale

And yes I realise 20 end seems overkill, but with the Pizzagig my build would have benfitted greatly from slighllty more End, rather than 2 anticlocks, I vividly remember that it, along with AmyArm, Boom Hammer and HMS hava a noticeably larger stamina drain on most attacks compared to other weapons, thus would benefit more from extra End to get enough Stam for a Roll in/ AttackX2-3/ Roll out combo, which most weapons get naturally at ~15 End

There is method in my madness, don't worry.

5mileys
5mileys

@MPmaster
I also think it actually doesn't sound like Maria plus I don't think she would be cursing hunters.

@Methnerd
isn't written somewhere in credits or something? like Iosefka having twi different voice actors.
I'm not sure if I like the idea that it is Kos. Old ones talking in human voice seems kind of weird to me.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Carnalpleasure
Piggybacking off of this; 50/25 smashing or 25/50 revvin for wheel?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Bidwell
never
stop
revving

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Bidwell
25/50 is the best all round

massdebater
massdebater

@Evil_kitten
/Steak=Better Str scale
so just max out the best attribute and call it a day.
You were saying? :^)

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

there will never be a way to chuck a bucket of water over enemies so bolt does more damage

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Fried_Sushi
Dragon's Dogma a best

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Ignoramus
Dark Souls 1 lore was very straightforward. Bloodborne lore is much more ambiguous and obtuse. People living on in the dream after dying, the crime in the Fishing Hamlet, the Winter Lanterns being made out of messengers, there's all sorts of mysterious stuff in BB.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

there will never be any new bloodborne memes

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Fucking christ on a hand basket, the god damn dlc on NG+, Maria was pretty okay, took me a few attempts but mr.Orphan, I fucking called in the reinforcements and parry spammed that shit, fucking hell.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@MPmaster
It's Maria imo. It's her disillusion with the hunt after the fishing Hamlet that's why she an hero and makes the remake about corpse should be left alone e.g. Kos.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Spazyfool
Not with that attitude
@SniperWish
Yes, but there was a legitimate curse, something lain down by someone with enough power to cast a curse without end. Maria was just a hunter, Kos was essentially a god.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@GoogleCat
I thought winter lantern where made out of dolls?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@SniperWish
Some people say that, but those people are blind.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@lostmypassword
Actually, there's a good amount of evidence. The clothes are strikingly similar (granted, covered in blood), and the hands are identical.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Here we go again faggots, same deal as before I'm only going to post it once so if you can't stand it rest fucking easy
Some pvp footage compiled for your viewing pleasure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfXkWz0zeIk

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@SniperWish
Its head is made out of messengers, and it wears the doll's dress without the shawl.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@SniperWish
I don't know. Pretty dubious IMO.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Methnerd
That red is blood, friend. Why would the Cainhursts turn to Winter Lanterns? Also, the gold hem is missing and the sleeves on the Lanterns are much tighter.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

tfw soloing bloodletting beast for the first time since i returned a week ago

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

so how do I gem BoM? 2 27.2% physical and what aboyt the third one?
Should I do 25/50 str/skl abd pur heavy abyssal on it?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Deadlyinx
I wasn't trying to imply that the Winter Lanterns are wearing Knight's Set, just that red/black doesn't equal Doll. I think the design team knows that blood doesn't show red on black fabric and so I think that red down the front is a red-stained piece of separate clothing, rather than just a trail of viscera and blood.

Now admittedly I haven't put a huge amount of effort into confirming that, and am open to being proven wrong.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Crazy_Nice
you fight them like goliath pigs. Get really close, don't lock on, and keep rolling behind their back as they try to turn to face you

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

What torso piece should I use for an executioner miralda kosplay?
Yharnam hunter?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Okay this is pretty convincing.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@iluvmen
red-stained
Yes, like blood. The majority of the Doll's dress itself is black, the brown shawl covers most of it, and is absent on the Lanterns. Consider the rule, that every reality must have:
a hunter
a Great One
a Doll
In the Dream, Gehrman is the hunter, the Doll is, well, the Doll, and the Great One is the Moon Presence. In the waking world, we are the hunter, the Doll is the abandoned Doll in the Abandoned Workshop, and there are many Great Ones to choose from. In the Nightmare (the entirety is linked), Maria is likely the hunter, but could also be Micolash in his duty as the "host," we again have multiple Great Ones to choose from (Kos, Amygdala, Mergo), which leaves the Doll, likely the Lanterns.
This rule is speculation on my part, but remains constant in the different realities we face. Which leaves us to wonder the case for the Chalice Dungeons.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@ZeroReborn
you're are gay lol

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@BlogWobbles
In the Dream, the Doll is everything we need; a compassionate caretaker with unyielding love for us. The Nightmare must be the polar opposite of the Dream, so it takes what we love the most and creates an unspeakable horror, something which harms us through mere sight.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Skullbone
you're are

You give the dipshit a (You) and that's the best insult you could manage?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Boy_vs_Girl
Why not just use three 27.2% gems?

Heavy Abyysals are useless at 25 STR

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

so it's decision time. SL90 and I'm aiming for SL98. I'm currently at 40/15/18/11/12/5/50. Do I either spread the points between vit and end so i have abit more stamina for whirligig saw or do I get 25 str and put 1 point into vit?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Boy_vs_Girl
Consider the rule, that every reality must have:
a hunter
a Great One
a Doll

Jesus Christ, you took some headcannon and extrapolated 2 more headcannons from that.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@PackManBrainlure
If you think you'll ever want to use the Wheel or HMLS I'd get 25 Str.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Flameblow
Like I said, speculation. It remains constant though, the evidence is all there.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Poker_Star
But they're the same place, same world at least. The Hunter's Dream is the lowest layer of the Nightmare, hidden away at the bottom. The Frontier sits second from the top.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@ZeroReborn
Good stuff

SniperWish
SniperWish

@TalkBomber
rofl you gay too

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Harmless_Venom
The Great One in charge of the Dream seems to have a fondness for the hunters, while the ones in the Nightmare are less than thrilled of our presence. Two different applications.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@PackManBrainlure
anymore opinions before i commit and give myself a good fucking if i mess up?

Inmate
Inmate

@MPmaster
Tell you what, why don't you back up your save, then level. Play with it for a bit, revert, and try a different config.See what level of End you need to comfortably use the 'Gig.

JunkTop
JunkTop

there will never be a respec option

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@iluvmen
carl used to give me hella trouble when i first played the game just couldnt figure him out for whatever reason died like 20ish in a row.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Quick, /bbg/, tell me what I need to know to do a SKL build?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@JunkTop
Good, keeps the shitters out of PvP

Inmate
Inmate

@Need_TLC
50 VIT 50 SKL

Literally the easiest build in the game

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Need_TLC
get 50 skill
get church pick or saif
there, easy

Flameblow
Flameblow

@StrangeWizard
You mean how it traps people in an endless cycle of undeath to be a surrogate child or to fulfill some obscure and violent action? Or how Gehrman's been there so long he can barely remember his own name? We don't know why exactly the Moon Presence does what it does, but it hardly seems beneficial to the people it affects. And when it doesn't get what it wants, a new surrogate, it tries killing us.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

What are the ideal strength and arcane stats for a Tonitrus build? I'm pretty new to this game so I have no idea. Doesn't it scale more with arcane after you strike it?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@TurtleCat
25/50 STR/ARC.
The buff scales with ARC. Stack bolt gems and watch bosses melt.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@iluvmen
first time playing
get your shit pushed in so hard it comes out your mouth
learn the patterns, learn to parry
finally feel like you're getting good at him
health goes down to like 40%
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
get your shit pushed in so hard it comes out your mouth

Spamalot
Spamalot

durability down gems on the tonitrus
:^)

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Thoughts on ARC amy arm? Im running a wheel build and was thinking about a side weapon. Is it shit for arc?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Illusionz
Thanks! If the buff scales with arcane, why put the points into strength besides the minimum amount required to wield it?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Evil_kitten
The on hit is still a combination of phys/bolt, even if it does get a large amount of damage from arcane with the buff it still has a base amount of damage underneath that shouldn't be ignored

FastChef
FastChef

@Lord_Tryzalot
yes

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Lord_Tryzalot
the arc scaling is shit, like the BoM/BB it's just there to prevent it from being buffed and split the ar for some reason

Lunatick
Lunatick

@FastChef
@Emberfire
Alright, I won't bother with that shit then. What about the boom hammer? I figure it works sorta like the tonitrus but I could be wrong.

I really just wanna use something for this build that isn't HMLS or tonitrus since ive used both for 300 hours on another character.

iluvmen
iluvmen

anyone wanna help me with fire doggo?
password is firedog

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@iluvmen
oops, forgot to mention its defiled fire doggo

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Flameblow
It tried

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

thanks hibiki as usual

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Lunatick
SKL/ARC build

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

lucy posting without a trip again top kek

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@LuckyDusty
Must be having an off day. Let's celebrate this while we can, he's sure to be back.

Lunatick
Lunatick

ME SMASH
ME POUND
ME GRIND

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

implying that luci will be back. too much of a pussy.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@BinaryMan
If we keep talking about him, we'll summon him. If we keep him away, maybe we can starve his ego.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

nah as i said, he's too much of a pussy

Spamalot
Spamalot

@BinaryMan
WHat?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

mmmm falling for the obvious bait. tasty.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@StrangeWizard
Was that your clever ruse this whole time? Bait him out? It'll probably do more harm than good.

Firespawn
Firespawn

I think he's onto me

Anyone want to run NG+2 Hunter's Nightmare with me? Password will be REEE and I'll be beckoning at the first lamp, if anyone's interested.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@RumChicken
This
If we pretty much pretended he doesn't exist he would probably end up killing himself eventually

Snarelure
Snarelure

thinks people wont notice him posting without his tag
gets bated into putting on his tag
toppest of keks

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Snarelure
Baiting him only fuels the ego. Pretend he isn't there, and it becomes less and less of a problem.

Flameblow
Flameblow

makes it better that he can be so easily baited though, shows to him how much of a retard he actually is

Methshot
Methshot

@Flameblow
Now that he's here, he's not leaving. His arrogance has made him unaffected by any sort of criticism. Pretend Lucy doesn't exist and don't even bother with him. I learned this lesson the other day after an argument with him about a build. I escaped unscathed, at the cost of the thread going to shit. They made a new one right after, probably to contain the cancer.
It is not a good idea to summon him. It is never a good idea.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Crazy_Nice
They are one of the toughest miniboss types sure, but pre patch drake keepers with infinite stamina repeating the same attack ad infinitum was worse just for how stupid it was. Also, BB shark giants are more dangerous by far. The trick with the outrider knights I find is to just strafe them and get behind.

Illusionz
Illusionz

damage control

TechHater
TechHater

Honestly, Luci is probably the smartest person in these threads. We should all strive to be like Luci

takes2long
takes2long

@TechHater
missing the "." at the end. c'mon man thats nothing like him

Inmate
Inmate

tfw finally soloing defiled amy
i love executioner gloves

idontknow
idontknow

get lower pthumeru chalice
short 7 ritual blood 3 and none for sale
What the fuck

cum2soon
cum2soon

@idontknow
Got to do the side areas

farquit
farquit

What's the best gem setup for Holy Moonlight Blade with 99 ARC and base STR?

Specifically, I'm looking to get the most damage out of the projectile attacks.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@farquit
arcane gems :^)

farquit
farquit

WHY CAN'T I EVER INVADE AT CAINHURST

tfw want to invade there but never get anyone

takes2long
takes2long

@farquit
are you ringing jsut outside the boss area? if not then try that

viagrandad
viagrandad

@cum2soon
I explored every inch except for on the last floor. Are there really 7 of them there?

TreeEater
TreeEater

all those bell maidens summoning red enemies in Yahar'gul
not a single sinister bell maiden

massdebater
massdebater

Can anyone help me with Headless Bloodletting Beast in Ihyll?

Pass is bbg

SniperWish
SniperWish

@takes2long
invasions are proximity based
doing that just makes it more likely for your host to be through the fog by the time you load in

RavySnake
RavySnake

@massdebater
Searching

Spamalot
Spamalot

NG+2 Laurence, anyone? I'll be beckoning at the fog, pass is REEE.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@SniperWish
thats why you stand infront of the fog

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Spamalot
I'm up, but I'm in NG+

Does it matter?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@CouchChiller
Not at all. Beckoning now.

likme
likme

@Bidwell
Ringing but nothing's happening

Pass is "REEE"?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@likme
Yeppers. It takes a bit sometimes, just give it a minute. Make sure you're set to worldwide, and if it takes particularly long, restarting the PS4 sometimes solves the problem.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Spamalot
@Bidwell
Nvm I'm retarded, was standing at Luwdig (haven't progressed past there yet)

whereismyname
whereismyname

what is the best Isz glyph to farm triangle +27.2% gems from the merciless watchers boss?

IMO it is easiest to fight them on the 2-level arena, but it doesn't seem to make that much of a difference since they rarely gang up on you. But what glyph does it take the least effort to pull the lever each time?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Tempering abyssals have a secondary effect right?
What's the maximum possible rally potential I could get on one?

Spamalot
Spamalot

invade someone in middle mensis
spawn right in front of him
LHB and ludwigs rifle
try to bow because "polite way to pvp"
starts hitting me and gets me down to 1/3 hp
spams ludwigs rifle
parry him and fuck him up
feels good

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@TalkBomber
5pwujscd is the one I used. Has everything you asked for.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@RavySnake
Are you still searching?

I've been ringing for ages now.

Snarelure
Snarelure

so what exactly is the point of shining coins?
only thing I can think of is mucking about in pvp/co-op

Emberfire
Emberfire

@whereismyname
Sorry, was supposed to reply to @whereismyname

@Boy_vs_Girl
No but I'll get on it now.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@TalkBomber
I think rally potential goes up to +5% or +6% as a secondary effect. See @Gigastrength
explanation

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Snarelure
I used them to get my bearings during my first run through the forbidden woods

Evilember
Evilember

@Boy_vs_Girl
You sure the password is on? "bbg" without quotes

likme
likme

@StonedTime
oh, nice
guess marking up chalice dungeons or something would work
best is still leaving a trail of coins, hiding at the end as messengers, then popping out clapping when someone shows up

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Snarelure
Coins are so you do not get lost if you are new to the game. You can also see them through walls and doors IIRC, like between the closed door to the great bridge and the cathedral ward

@Emberfire
I am the one who asked about the Isz +27% glyphs. I'm assuming you mean this post ( @Sir_Gallonhead
) was directed at me. Thanks!

Bidwell
Bidwell

when, in the lore, things say about the encounter with mergo resulted in the stillbirth of their brains, wtf does that even mean?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Can anyone else help with with HBLB in Ihyll?

I've been ringing for 20 minutes and @Emberfire
hasn't shown up. I havnt even got a fogwall appear yet.

Firespawn
Firespawn

why do all waning gems suck ass

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

To whoever I just shrekt, sorry.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Bidwell
They're all braindead. RIP
kicked the bucket

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Spamalot
No one?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@SomethingNew
Maybe servers are fucked?

I've been ringing for HBLB for 45 minutes and got one Hunter of Hunters invasion and 0 other connections.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@cum2soon
so thats why theyre all kill?

w8t4u
w8t4u

does the eye rune have any bearing on what kind of gems a boss drops? Like if they can drop tempering/fire/bolt/arcane and they usually drop tempering the most often, will having Eye equipped make them drop elemental gems more often?

Because I have fought these watchers like 16 times and I've only gotten the tempering gems I wanted like twice (both times with ATK DOWN curse), and I'm starting to think it's because of this fucking rune

Lunatick
Lunatick

@w8t4u
Eye runes only impact drop rate, it won't make a difference on guaranteed drops such as gems.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

tfw chikage L1 -> R2

StonedTime
StonedTime

For any who may've missed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzdhTGaWzec

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

quick question

do i need to have the materials to make chalice dungeons via chalice glyph

Techpill
Techpill

@kizzmybutt
no

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

>>16530955
then how come it says i dont meet the requirements to join the chalice glyph? what am i missing?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@StonedTime
Awwwwww shieeet that's neat

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@SomethingNew
what am i missing?
At a guess, the chalice.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@SomethingNew
You have to create a chalice dungeon with all the offerings in it yourself once before you can join glyphs that have the offerings. I'm pretty sure it works for all of them, so you only have to create 1 root dungeon with all the offerings.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Fried_Sushi
@Burnblaze
ok thanks guys i appreciate you and I'm sure you're lovely people in real life :*

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I know there's weapons that benefit simultaneously from high strength+arcane, is there any weapon that simultaneously benefits from having high strength/skill+bloodtinge?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Gigastrength
Dude, gay.

@Fried_Sushi
I'm pretty sure it works for all of them, so you only have to create 1 root dungeon with all the offerings.
That's correct.

@haveahappyday
Weapons that benefit from Str and Skl simultaneously dominate the catalog.

Weapons that benefit from x and Blt simultaneously (as in, do Phys and Blood damage t the same time) do not exist.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

We all know Ludwig's and Gehrman's themes are good, but BB has a lot of good songs, post your favourite song from the game that you consider to be severely under rated.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Fried_Sushi
do not exist

well rip, I guess I'll still try tinge because I wanna cannon some dudes

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

If you have a character with 50 SKL, 50 STR and 50 ARC, what weapon would benefit the most from having both a +65 STR scaling gem *and* a +65 ARC scaling gem?

Maybe the Burial Blade, since it already scales pretty well on SKL? I'd imagine it would have an A or an S rating in STR, SKL and ARC scaling simultaneously. Then you could add a +23.6% ATK UP nourishing gem for more damage on both the physical and arcane damage

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Lunatick
You didn't ask the corollary question: "Are there weapons that benefit from x and Blt simultaneously that don't do Blood and Phys at the same time?"

There are four.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@AwesomeTucker
I like The One Reborn's song. Also the song when you fight Pthumerian Descendant and the song when you fight non-headless Bloodletting Beast

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@AwesomeTucker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA614N3IHD4

I'm surprised more people don't talk about this track, it compliments the fight fantastically and really makes you feel like there's a blood crazed hunter aggressing the fuck out of you, and I like that it's a lot of brass and string rather than a choir (it is used but sparingly)

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@lostmypassword

More like gudgetter Xd

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Gigastrength
Not quite sure how big of a difference you'll see in the BB's ARC damage, as the .69 scaling isn't at all the problem with the weapon. It's the base damage, which is so that the investment is never worth it in the end, due to the way the damage formula works.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Gigastrength
That's a lot of math for most likely a dumb idea.

HMLS is obviously a contender, but the two 65s being better than a second or third Nourishing is unlikely, though possible.
.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@AwesomeTucker
Lullaby for Mergo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uKdU19drsw

I love how eerie and minimalistic it is, a perfect song for one of the creepiest bosses in any Souls game.

Emberfire
Emberfire

what the fuck, I have 3 guidance runes. Two 10% ones and one 20% one. I just got the second 10% one from that crow who always dives off the catwalks at the very top of the Research Hall and lands in front of the big window

massdebater
massdebater

@Stark_Naked
four

bowblade, bloodletter, chikage, what's the fourth one?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@massdebater
Reiter.

Oh and actually, Rifle Spear for five.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Where do I get a gem of BLOOD ATK UP +31.x% that is not circular?

I know they exist; I have seen screenshots of someone using them in a bloodletter

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@AwesomeTucker
Gascoigne's was already mentioned, so I'll mention the Living Failures theme. Some people here and there have said they like it, I think it's one of the best pieces in the game. It's awe-inspiring, grand, eldritch and, dare I say, majestic. I think everyone's favourite part, and rightly so, is the chorus during the meteor attack. The entire build up to that is pure cosmic power.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Spamalot
The same place you get Circle ones, just really, really rarely.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Sharpcharm
Fack! I already farmed the shotgun watcher 70-some times to get the perfect circular one, and he didn't drop a single off-shape variant in all those kills

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@eGremlin
70 times
ahahahaha
AHAHAHAHA

Emberfire
Emberfire

@CouchChiller
The problem is that a lot of people don't really pay much attention to the music during a boss fight unless it really stands out like with Ludwig, a lot of the songs in the game are absolutely top-tier but are only really glanced over.

Listening to the Living Failures by itself, I can really see how good it is, but during the fight I'm too focused on dps'ing down as many living 4channers as fast as possible.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Gigastrength
@Nude_Bikergirl
I was right, silly idea:

CA, HA, 1.215
--------------------------
180+([180*1.45*.85]+[180*.6*.85])1.215= 493
100+(100*1.65*.85)1.215= 240
1.193 and 2x 1.215
---------------------------------
180+([180*.8*.85]+[180*.6*.85])1.761136425= 694

100+(100*1*.85)1.761136425 = 235

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Garbage Can Lid
it was a big waste of time but at least it only took about a minute for each attempt. That's why I would always rationalize trying it just one more fucking time.

I had like 440 discovery too, with all those eye runes

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I have the cool starting gear how fo i get the cooler looking gear that also kind of looks like the starter gear

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Boy_vs_Girl
play
the
damn
game

Evilember
Evilember

@Spazyfool
No I mean, it takes in the thousands goofus

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@PackManBrainlure
I am
12 hours in, still farming for 10k for the gate
Stupid tall faggots fucking me up so good mmmmmm

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

quickest way to get tomb mold 5?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Ignoramus
You can get around the 10k by going for the fun way. Head down to Old Yharnam, but don't get poisoned.

TechHater
TechHater

@Ignoramus
12 hours
yet to kill Amelia

user, I like your determination

Emberfire
Emberfire

@PackManBrainlure
There's a shitton in standard Isz, layer 3 IIRC. And Depth 5 rats drop it frequently.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Ignoramus
are you memeing or has it actually taken you that long?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Evilember
it takes in the thousands

oh wow, fuck that.
That takes some serious dedication. And it could all just be ruined by one shitty ATK DOWN curse too

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Methnerd
which is why the only people who do it are severely autistic

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Methnerd
I mean for a full set, it takes a super random amount of time for a single off-shape as it's just a 1/100 chance more or less, but for a useable set of off-shapes it takes thousands of tries because it could have a shit curse or be a scaling bt gem or be the wrong shape
@StrangeWizard
Out of all the types of gem farming, it's definitely the easiest to tune out and watch something or listen to a podcast during the experience. Ultimately it's not that bad compared to abyssal farming.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Flameblow
It uses people, and being the manipulative Elder God that it is, it uses people in clever ways. It's taking advantage of us in such a way that we don't even know we're being taken advantage of (at least until later in the game). It's motivations are a mystery, but it's certainly crafty enough to know that a prisoner that doesn't know they're a prisoner is the best kind. Keep 'em happy and they won't question things.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@eGremlin
Meh, abyssal farming isn't bad either, just turn down the music in the sounds option and pop in one of your favourite albums, you'll eventually go into zen mode where you're almost robotically taking down whatever faggot you're killing

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Supergrass
Although, if you're going to roll a 50/50/50 anyway,

180+([180*.8*.85]+[180*.6*.85])1.476225= 581

100+(100*1.65*.85)1.476225= 354

Good compromise.

@ZeroReborn
PSA, the PS4 can play MP3s while you game.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@eGremlin
Ultimately it's not that bad compared to abyssal farming.
Abyssal farming is easy as fuck though.

The only one that's needed more than 15 tries was fucking Hotdog and his damned Fire Abyssal. That fucker wouldn't drop it for so long I was starting to think he couldn't.

Amy and Ebri don't take more than 4 or 5 kills in my experience to drop a decent Abyssal. Elder HMPH either.

Actually I'd say in terms of rarity it's Nourishing > Cold > Arcane > Fire, an ascending order.

massdebater
massdebater

@Spamalot
In* ascending order.

Heavies aren't too bad either in my experience, although HBLB is definitely the hardest boss to farm.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Spamalot
I mean with an ideal secondary. Farming for abyssals on their own is one thing, but the fact that the decent secondaries are so rare and can be ruined by both a bad curse and by being on a non-abyssal it makes farming abyssals a huge chore.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@TalkBomber
Ah. Yeah I'm not picky when it comes to secondaries, or Curses really. Maybe I've been pretty lucky in that regard too, though. I tend to get the ones I want.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Soft_member
I'm still raw from farming HBLB with a group of people and going fucking over 30 kills with no good abyssal.

Techpill
Techpill

@Fried_Sushi
That sucks man.

They can't be that great on Str weapons anyway though, right? It seems to me that they don't tend to offer more than a 23-4% gem for AR. a third 27% isn't always bettor? Or were you converting Skl weapons?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Techpill
A heavy abyssal is usually ideal on every strength weapon, sometimes 2 if you have low skill and depending on the weapon.
For my build, 50/25, I run 1 heavy and 2 27s on just about everything except ludwigs which is 3 blunt and beast cutter which is 1 heavy 2 blunt.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Evil_kitten
Ah, gotcha.

I hate the desire sensor, man. I ""helped"" an user farm HBLB like four times a couple weeks/months ago; he got no Abyssal, I got two. I was running an Arc build, of course.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Methnerd
They're called Korean gems for a reason

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Dreamworx
yeah, I remember when I farmed for a bt gem for my pistol on my str build I got a radial off-shape that was perfect. It motivated me to try for more on my bt and I got about 50 kills in before deciding to pick it back up when I feel like having another lobotomy.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Stark_Naked
PS4 can play MP3s
Wait since when?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Fried_Sushi
The last update.

You can open Media Player or Spotify, then run your game and any time you wanna change tracks or adjust volume, you just hold the PS button for the half-screen menu.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@BunnyJinx
I don't get it. Why Korea?

WebTool
WebTool

@happy_sad
it took this long to add a feature the 360 launched with
Jesus Chrism it's about time

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@SniperGod
Koreans have been known to die of malnutrition while farming in their shitty grindfest mmos, or let their children die from severe neglect

Evilember
Evilember

@WebTool
I fucking know man. When I jumped onto the PS3 that was biggest complaint right the way through its lifespan and into PS4's.

Sony's really fucking anal about copyright infringement and shit.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Skullbone
They found blood in a cave, Willem started studying it, the Church broke off from him to experiment with it, Mensis broke off from that to make deals with a thing associated with it, the Workshop broke off from something to kill the other three. Done.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Nude_Bikergirl
And the Cainhursts are in there somewhere, making the Church mad about using the blood.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@AwesomeTucker
They're a sideshow, they just stole research from Byrgenwerth proving that they wuz Pthumerians n shit and used that as a license to start killing plebs.

FastChef
FastChef

Spiritual successor to BB when?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@CodeBuns
More than anything, yeah, their significance to the lore is slim.
@FastChef
Hopefully never. Sequels have never turned out very good with From. Remember how the later Souls games compared with DaS?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@New_Cliche
I said spiritual successor, not sequel.

FastChef
FastChef

@New_Cliche
Remember how the later Souls games compared with DaS?
That's literally the fault of one or two men.

Consider DeS, DaS, and BB.

There's no reason Miyazaki couldn't do a sequel, much less another spiritual successor, if he was the one actually directing it.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@massdebater
HLBL
hard
Are you not using beast blood pellets?
I can consistently put him down before the pellets wears off with a whirligig

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@FastChef
soon

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@New_Cliche
DS2 had a lot of great mechanical tweaks which should have been brought back in 3.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Lunatick
I've only fought him as an Arc build.

And I said "hardest" of three bosses that are easy as fuck. I guess I'd rate Ebi as more difficult than HBLB, though.

I'm aware that he can be quite trivialized by hugging his outer left foot, but he still puts a lot more onus on the player to be careful than Amy, Hotdog or Elder.

Or well, that might not be true either. Elder has a lot of phase 2 shenanigans.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Techpill
Heavy abyssals are essential if you want to use a skill weapon on your str build, like the church pick
@StonedTime
Elder usually fucks my shit up but he can be cheesed hard with arc and arc is the only build that needs to farm him

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Sharpcharm
I'll agree with most of that but someone is honestly going to defend hexes?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Sharpcharm
great
Eh.

I liked GS and Ultra GS parrying, and left-handed movesets, and to a lesser degree power-stancing.

Everything else about 2 can piss off.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Sharpcharm
Granted, yes, DS2 did have some features I would have wanted to see again. The problem is that issues in the game overshadowed other parts, and I wouldn't want BB to go down that road.

Bidwell
Bidwell

upgrading the kos parasite was a mistake

this thing's R1 attacks are slower than the tricked kirhhammer, and it does like half the damage per hit. The only really good attack seems to be the tricked L2 explosion

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Bidwell
But user, it's fun

Soft_member
Soft_member

@TreeEater
Elder usually fucks my shit up but he can be cheesed hard with arc and arc is the only build that needs to farm him
Yeah but my point was kinda that his second phase can be quite difficult if you don't cheese him with BSE.

Amy doesn't need to be jump cheesed and Hotdog and HBLB don't have a cheese but can be easy by just playing well. Ebi's kind of a wild card. Fundamentally she's pretty easy if you just snipe her face, but somehow she's always a pain in the ass.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Anyone in the mood to go spelunking? Thinking about opening a new FRC of some kind. Probably Loran.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

all this gem farming

Literally for what purpose. Just sounds like self torture

Supergrass
Supergrass

IT'S A NEW THREAD

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CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Soft_member
always a pain in the ass
Probably because her charge can be dodged easily with one dash if you're very close or very far, but that perfect sweet spot for baiting the headbutt requires two precisely timed dodges to escape it
And don't forget Rom for that nourishing radial, what a tedious piece of shit

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@AwesomeTucker
I do it to better help others farm gems
I inflict this pain upon myself so that others might suffer a bit less

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