I went from being worked like a slave in a vinyl plant for 13.50 a hour to standing around watching a machine run in a climate controlled plant for 18.50 a hour right down the road.
The first place has a high retention rate and the second has trouble keeping workers with good attendance and always have high turnover bringing new people on every week or two.
Why would people not want to show up to a job where you get trained to watch the air pressure of a machine while getting paid 19.50 a hour versus working like a dog in a 100 degree plant for 13.50? The hours are exactly the same.
Is it blue collar ego? I personally enjoy my new lazy job.
Isaac Wilson
Well, Homer Simpson. People get bored if they aren't mentally or physically stimulated. If they work like a dog they are at least occupied.
Zachary Harris
not sure but a lot of times with higher wages you get people that hate their job for whatever reason but can't afford to quit.
so they just hang out and make everyone else miserable. The US Postal Service is famous for this dynamic, people even get to the point of shooting each other over it.
Hudson Sullivan
But I just sit behind the machine and watch YouTube or play mobile games. We also get to take breaks whenever we like and don't have to wait for a bell like children. Only downside is its a tobacco free facility because the stuff made is FDA regulated.
Carter Thomas
My dad works at a steel mill where guys get paid 6 figures to watch machines do everything while they watch porn on their phones and smoke pot. Each of them on average produces more than 1 million in value per year. Meanwhile a fast food worker who works constantly and barely produces more value than they get paid is paid shit. Learn about the organic composition of capital and you will understand.
Isaac Bennett
A friend of mine had a job fixing watches as a free service. He had pretty much 2 clients a day. The rest of the day he was allowed to play on his laptop.
He said he was bored to tears.
Nolan Thomas
Most people prefer to keep active in blue-collar jobs
Another thing is leadership and culture, the other place might be better in that regard
Ayden Adams
The other place had terrible supervisors.
I really don't get it. I mean you get to run machines instead of manually doing the work and are paid more. There's more shift leads than the other place to work at. 90% of the plant is automated so there's no hard manual labor. Maybe that's why? Muh robots?
James Campbell
Why would someone not like a job like that I mean you could just do different stuff while at it. Fuck you all who say that its shit. I work for 3.09 eu /hour pre taxes (taxes are around 26%) I work all the time for 12 hours a day. Ofcourse living expenses are also very low but if lets say I want to get a new phone or something I would have to eat 1 minute noodles for two months fuck that. Also any suggestions how to make simialar amount of noney through internet?
Jacob Robinson
What is this plant? How would i get in?
Luis Myers
Where and what is this steel mill? Sounds like an amazing gig.. no drug tests?
Connor Lopez
Capitalism is often illogical when it comes to pay.
My current job is way easier than my last and I'm making 3x the pay.
Whatever. Thanks Obama.
Angel Kelly
You get taxed 26% on less than half of the US's minimum wage? What communist shithole do you live in?
Gavin Sanders
What's the official position title given to you OP? Is it one of those ridiculous ones that require some obscure cert that nobody has heard about to do unskilled labor?
Sebastian Richardson
they have trouble keeping workers because smart people find promotions via work at competitors and other companies
only idiots stay the same job for more than 2 years
people stayed at your old job because they lived paycheck to paycheck and couldn't afford to switch jobs or move (typical poverty trap)
Jaxon Myers
Good, good. Spend your hourly wage on cigarettes user yes. Don't bother with further education you have everything you need now and always will. In fact, maybe you should finance a new car with a nice stereo, hmm? You could take a break and smoke in your car..
Wyatt Watson
Youre new bosses boss is probably a cunt and youve just missed it so far
Keep your head down and avoid office politics
Ive seen lots of places like this. Easy cash job but the big boss is a super dick and dumbasses who dont mind their own businesses get sucked into it
Josiah Baker
this
im a pipefitter, on average the pay rate around here is $30-$32/hr
i found a job where they were offering $38 an hour, i jumped for it. Boy did i ever regret it
-safety violations -one guy got his shoulder caved in by a steel hammer that fell 5 stories and the first thing out of the Foremans mouth was for everyone to drop what they were doing and clean the place up for the safety inspectors so the company wouldnt get billed- WHILST THE GUY WAS SCREAMING ON THE GROUND - using shoddy steel that wasnt up to code -etc
thats the one and inly job i got fired from cause a buddy of mine told the foreman he was afraid of heights and asked if he could get confined space/out in the open work instead. To which the foreman assigned my buddy to work a the top of a tower without rails installed with an old harness
i went high, went to the comstruction manager to which he said "well guess i gotta get rid of you"
fucking Clearstream Energy services
Nathan Smith
lol brings me back to my years working at power plants
sounds like you got a million stories
Ryan Wright
yep i do
the biggest impediment to work is the "good ol boys club" which is still alive and well. If you arent in it your job is always in the air
heres another:
We had three cranes on this particular job i was assigned to work on the Gantre crew to flow pipe into mods.
There was another Gantre which had its own crew and a stand alone T-rex crane.
Preface- i had never seen such a big mod yard, you could have 4 lanes of traffic on each side of the mods.
At any rate one morning a HUGE bang echoed out across the yard, half the crew came to look. The other Gantre crew had spotted their gantre...spotted it straight into the T-rex, the boom was fucked- it was bent sideways. The leader of the crew was younger than me- he was 25
after all was said and done- total cost to the company- $825,000 give or take a few dollars. But since he was part of the "good ol boys club" he wasnt fired, no disciplinary action, nothing. His excuse was is that he couldnt see the huge fucking flourescent orange crane that was sitting in the middle of nothing illuminated by 4 generator lights and surrounded by 8 huge red pylons and was put on a mod crew that was installing the pipe we shoved into the mods.
Heres the kicker, two days later one of my buddies- another pipefitter had a welder arc up a pipe but realized after that it was misaligned. He told the foreman about it and said he was going to quickly zipcut it and have the welder reweld it. Total estimated cost- $25 and 15 minutes of work time
foreman: YOU'RE FIRED! YOU'RE OUT OF HERE! wait right here whilst i call in the security guard to walk you out the GATE!
gotta love the good ol boys club!
Angel Walker
why didnt you report that asshole to the labor board / similar institution of your state ?
Hudson Powell
which one? the foreman? or the construction manager that fired me cause i brought up the fact that the foreman was getting revenge on my buddy for daring to ask for different work? or how about the security guard that escorted me out the gate?
later on i found out during my attempt to go on unemployment that they filled out bogus complaint forms against me and thus i wasnt eligible for unemployment cause somehow i "caused it"
the whole fucking system came crashing down on me. dont worry i got even in different ways
Jaxon Torres
sounds like you got fucked by that company mate, you shoould have consulted with a lawyer (it's usually free and if they determine they have a strong case you can negotiate a deal for a % age of the money you would get in case of a win)
some lawyers make a killing out of this, especially in the construction business where most of the contractors give no fucks about the law and regulations so it's usually pretty easy to have a case
Liam Miller
That's how the operators here are. You're supposed to stay within eye contact of your line but we Can do whatever we want.
Xavier Price
That would take money, and time, and where im at all the higher-ups talk amongst each other and would blacklist me for future employment at other work sites. Ive seen it happen at other places.
as i said i will no longer work at Clearstream energy services, i recommend to all the guys i meet that they never work there or for the foreman/construction manager i dealt with.
and i let the air out of his tires and slathered the inside of his door handle with dogshit 2 weeks later so they wouldnt suspect me, so theres that.
you might say that was immature, it is but i still laughed giddily thinking of the look on his face at the end of the day when he had to call his wife/taxi with his shit covered hand to come pick him up. Gotta have fun working for assholes
William Lewis
sucks mane.
I'm not one for snitching but when lives and health are at stake, I would have reported their bitch asses to every government agency.
> DOL > OSHA
Caleb Harris
they had their prorities straight
>clean up the site after incident before safety guys get there. Normal procedure is to freeze site for inspection >claim that it was always this way >OSHA leaves >ok back to business boys
