Yeah, you can get more HP/L out of going from larger-displacement pushrod to smaller-displacement DOHC, but you're going to end up with a physically larger and heavier engine for the same power, so what is the point?
Yeah, you can get a lot more HP/L with the addition of turbochargers. But guess what? You need larger turbos for more power, even if that isn't factored into overall engine volume dimensions. There is still no replacement for displacement, even with forced induction.
There is nothing wrong with using large displacement to make power over other methods. If anything, it means you're engine is less stressed and will last longer.
No shit. That's should be common sense for most. However, Europeans have been brainwashed into thinking the only thing that matters is hp/l.
Jaxon Long
this always take a lighter engine, especially if its also larger.
Jose Morris
>make 500 hp out of 8 liters >IT'S A FEATURE
Leo Brooks
Yup. Aluminum v8 > iron i4 with turbo and intercooler
Grayson Moore
>what is delicious torque nectar
How the fuck do you only get 1200hp from 16 cylinders and four fucking turbos? And here's the kicker... It weighs almost as much as a fucking Cummin's.
Andrew Allen
No you see i make over 135hp/driven wheel :^)
Joseph Torres
ITT: dumb americans who took trolling serious
Samuel Bell
Why doesn't your butthole country build the worst's fastest production car if you're so much smarter about everything?
Grayson Long
Its meant to be reasonably reliable.
Benjamin White
unpopular opinion: Because of wind resistance, to truly get more and more top speed you simply need more displacement. Forced induction won't carry your car as far as pure cubes (pubes lol) can.
Liam Ross
645hp and 600lb-ft that lasts throughout the entire rev range, thank you very much.
James Williams
They have. A 1200hp street car out performs it in most ways other than useless top end which gets beat by a shitty Cessna plane. "production" is irrelevant here.
It isn't though. Even with 5 figure yearly maintenance work. They can't even handle idling in traffic.
> "production" is irrelevant here. PPFFFPFFPF AHAHAHAHA ENJOY YOUR "LOTUS" IN THE PAPERS AND CONTINUALLY WAITING FOR A RETURN RUN
Adrian Lee
Veyrons require a $300k per year maintenance regiment, or something to that effect.
Tyler Morris
Citation needed on that bullshit number, you stupid cunt.
Tyler Powell
They will sperg at this
Asher Jones
internet.com
Mason Clark
Absolutely BTFO
Brayden Barnes
>No actual laptimes
How will lotusfags ever recover?
Lucas Parker
For a track toy, I'd get the 3-11. For a weekend car/summer daily, I'd get a Viper. The T/A package though, not the ACR, suspension is too brutal.
Michael Wright
>daily >Viper
Michael Lopez
How exactly is being slower a victory for the viper??? Or is this one of those vietnam momemts.???
Leo Lewis
Ok, the viper is slower tho
Landon Adams
>he thinks we lost Vietnam lel 12-1 KDR gook
Dylan Cooper
>internet.com
Sucks.
Liam Roberts
>Lotus fags have to change context from the Viper's insane ring time to backpedal
LOTUS FAGS BTFO
Anthony Gomez
>Ameriburger actually replied to my vietnam bait Kek, this is too easy The russians won the space race and WW2 btw
Caleb Smith
>Viper >Ring time
???
The 3eleven lapped it in sub 7 minutes btw
Wth are americans retarded???
Nathaniel Nelson
>he thinks i wasn't baiting him
hook'd
Carson Garcia
Baited again X-DDD
Ayden Myers
masterbeighted :^)
Jaxson Mitchell
why is the lotus so fucking pigfat
a SR3 or SR8 is way lighter
Thomas Rogers
>retarded pushrod cucks think their engines are light and compact >posts something with a chrysler engine lmao
>what is delicious torque nectar irrelevant
>A 1200hp street car out performs it in most ways lmao they actually believe this
Wyatt Martinez
A electric sedan hits 60 faster. Even a sub $15k drag car destroys a Veyron in the 1/4. A Veyron would get murdered at a Texas mile competition. Even on a highway pull there's a plethora of street cars that would destroy it. It's just a rolling advertisement for Arabs to idle around in London. That's all. Meanwhile attainable cars are being used for things that matter.
John Harris
>17062691 (You) # >implying a lighter more compact engine isn't lighter and more compact Wew lad. You went full retard there.
Flathead- Indestructible OHV- lighter, smaller OHC- better fuel economy DOHC- more power
Cooper Kelly
>Europeans try to make the fastest car ever made >twin turbos >DCT >AWD >electric motors >water injection >KERS >torque vectoring >active aero >launch control >almost entirely carbon fiber body work >computers so advanced they learn from their driver >cost 1 million Euros
>Americans try to build the fastest car ever made >biggest engine ever put in a car >widest tires ever fitted on a car >largest wing ever put on a car >manual gearbox and rear wheel drive
How could you not love this car? It's so cartoonishly excessive you can't help but respect it.
Tyler Walker
>Japanense try to build the fastest car ever made >JEE TEE ARU >lemans wins >Japan*: 1 >USA: 0 >*with a wankel engine no less
Tyler Foster
>USA: 0 Nigga what?
Julian Hill
>le mans wins ("le mans" is two words you silly weeb) >japan: 1 >USA: 4
fixed that for your dumb ass lel
Nathaniel Reed
>Chiron >1200hp Found the guy that has no idea about cars
Tyler Adams
See Dumb ameriburger
Jackson Lopez
1479hp*** Excuuuuse me. Too bad that's still less than a truck engine...
A 1,200 HP street car isn't going to perform nearly as well off of the drag strip or be as reliable. Also your american wall of a car is gonna be fighting the air around it at any speed.
Isaiah Harris
The ACR is also probably at the limit of what can be done with a mostly mechanical car.
Brody Bennett
Everybody here who owns a car knows that. Ignore the autistic busriders and don't encourage them. Polite sage.
Grayson Moore
I'm an FCA hater but damn do I love the Viper. I considered getting a first gen but ultimately the 80's work van interior put me off and I went with an NSX.
Noah Murphy
>>japan: 1 fluke >>USA: 4 in a row
fixed
Logan Hill
> redline of 6400 rpm
if it made 600ft-lb through the rev range it would peak at 730hp at that redline
Jackson Gomez
>1.17 lb ft per cubic inch >1.26 hp per cubic inch It's possible to make a flat torque curve and 645 hp all the way to 6400 with that low of efficiency.
Matthew King
This.
Yes, racing engines can be more efficient with DOHC and yes, it's better.
But for a street car, displacement is the most enjoyable and reliable.
Faggots push the hp/l meme because they care about muh emissions, on the street you'll enjoy driving a big displacement engine more than a tiny one that sucks emissions cock.
Racing is a different story, not gonna get into that can of worms.
Austin Taylor
>viper >0-100khp 4,0s >0-60mph 3.3
are you fucking kidding me???
Chase Turner
Fastest Laps is fucking shit with zero quality control.
I could go make a page about how a 1974 Ford Pinto can go 0-60 in 1.8 seconds and lap the Nurburgring in 6:56 right now if I felt like it
Hudson Rodriguez
>fucking shit with zero quality control. Its like a match made in heaven for this place. i could make an entire thread spamming the exact same shit with a single other person and that thread wouldn't be pulled down by the mods for the garbage it clearly is until like an entire fucking day later and i (have) actually done that.
Luke Barnes
you mean motorcycles > cars
Ethan Torres
Must have to shift at 61 mph.
Nathan Peterson
This reminds me of one of VW's most reliable engines of all time - EA827 It was a NA 2.0L 4 cyl petrol engine that developed 109, 116 or 120 bhp. The cool thing about the 120 bhp one ( the ATF code ), which was found only on the mk 4 Golf and the B5 Passat, had peak torque at just 2400 rpm. It was a large engine that didn't spin all that much and it had so little technology on it that it was just about unbreakable. Sadly however, big low-reving NA petrol engines that don't break down are a thing of the past. It's spiritual succesor was the 1.6 MPI 102 bhp, but it had more technology on it, 16 valves and DOHC. It still was a tough as nails engine that never broke down, but this one actually has/had to spin far more than the leviathan 2.0 litre. Then the 1.6 mpi got the fsi treatment and it all went to shit.
Jace Morgan
how much do these engines weigh?
Kayden Torres
i think it's the eyes, but the blonde bitch looks way hotter in a "i'm not MC" sense