I'm looking for a daily. What is better Corolla 2017 or Civic 2017? What car does have a better fuel consumption and fun to use? On paper the civic is better I think it's around 180hp, +40 more hp on the corolla 141, What do you think though?
>Also living on Asia, we don't have that ugly corolla usdm, we get corolla altis here edgier than corolla usdm.
>CVT transmissions neither Chevy Cruze or Kia Forte instead
Jeremiah King
Thanks for the input, I am also reluctant on getting CVT transmission. Although I haven't tried it yet, I heard they are bad. I'm not getting Kia that's for sure, Not sure about Cruze though.
Landon Lewis
can get stick on the civic
Chase Lewis
No Civic stick here on our country, motherfuckers only offered CVT transmissions. Also getting automatic, since traffic in this country is really bad. (before everybody goes batshit about automatic; i got stick wrx sti, just want some daily)
David White
>chevy >kia legitimately not sure if bait. are you trying to get OP stranded in the middle of nowhere?
Adrian Edwards
Death by hanging or death by drowning...
Nolan Hall
There's literally nothing wrong with CVT
Elijah Long
cruze is a comfy little DD, good fuel mileage if you can handle the plastic interior
>There's literally nothing wrong with CVT
Except cvt's are literally lifeless and far less reliable than a regular automatic slushbox
Jonathan Bailey
no v6 no go
Gavin Reed
>far less reliable than a regular automatic slushbox
The only longterm data we have on consumer CVT cars is Nissan's garbage. I'm not suggesting OP should be a guinea pig, but we should at least give Honda and Toyota's stuff some time before making such definitive statements.
Besides, the number one selling points for both brands is reliability, I can't imagine they'd both be so willing to throw that away if CVTs by their very nature were really that bad these days.
Andrew Parker
Corolla is ancient shit, Civic is at least kept recent on the drivetrain
Ayden Nelson
It's not just Nissan. Honda has used CVTs in the Accord since 2014, with similar reliability results to Nissan. And GM tried it at one point. From 2002-2004, GM tried CVTs on the Saturn Vue and Saturn Ion Quad Coupe. They were discontinued because they kept failing so often and so spectacularly. It's literally the reason Saturn went down in reliability ratings from 2004 through 2007 since reliability surveys only use cars 3 years old. So the 2007 JD Powers reliability survey actually measures the reliability of 2004 model year cars. Consumer Reports isn't any better since they have no hard figures, just predicted reliability. Predicted reliability of Consumer reports is literally just pulling shit from their ass with no fact-based evidence.
Xavier Roberts
I only test drove a 17 Civic coupe with the 1.5T engine. The Civic is sort of responsive and quick enough; faster than the previous gen Si. Doesn't feel like the Civics of old, but that probably doesn't matter to you. Interior quality, design, and features are pretty fucking great on them too, especially in higher trims. The CVT pretending to be a standard automatic is a bit strange, but it was not completely awful. There are worse feeling automatic transmissions.
Don't think you'd regret a Civic as a commuter though. Just make sure to test drive the 2.0 vs the 1.5T if those are options where you are.
Nathaniel Gutierrez
GM being shit is what I expect, but I've never heard anything bad about the 2014+ Accord. Are you just going off of random internet anecdotes, or are their actual hard numbers to prove there are issues with it?
John Reed
>faster than the previous gen Si.
Wish people would stop with this meme. It's nearly half a second slower to 60, which is really good for the tarbo and really bad for the SI, but it's not faster in literally any head-to-head test people have done.
Easton Morgan
It's not exactly hard to believe. honda has always been notorious for shit and unreliable automatic transmissions. Why would a CVT change that?
The only good automatic Honda has right now is the 8 speed DCT used only in Acura models. Hopefully, the Civic will get a mid-year refresh, adopt the DCT and drop the CVT entirely.
Logan Bell
> honda has always been notorious for shit and unreliable automatic transmissions.
Maybe 15 years ago. Since the 8th gen, they haven't had a worse automatic than any other company.
Kevin Cooper
>has always been notorious for shit and unreliable automatic transmissions.
Virtually all cars sold in the US are auto, and Honda as a brand is known for reliability here. What you're saying doesn't make sense.
How am I supposed to know how that compares to the average? That sounds really good to me considering how many units they sell, I need a point of reference.
Jonathan Thompson
Why the fuck is that Corolla so much nicer looking than the bullsh8t we have in the us.
Evan Butler
just get a civic for 3k. do something responsible with the rest of the money.
Lincoln Brown
>Lifeless
THIS IS A FUCKING CIVIC, NOT A 300HP SPORTS CAR. I drive a 2015 Civic with a CVT and it's responsive enough to easily get me up to highway speed. IT'S FUCKING GOOD ENOUGH YOU DUMB FUCK. In fact, CVTs allow the engine to have a ridiculously low cruising rpm that 5-speed autos and DCTs could only ever dream about. It's just so much more quiet that I don't think I could ever daily-drive another shitbox without a CVT.
Rant over.
Ayden Lee
M A Z D A 3 A Z D A 3
Benjamin Wright
hyundai i20 if you get those
Brody Thompson
Oh they finally fixed the corollas front kinda?
Jackson Lopez
american one is still retarded
Owen Sanchez
Don't buy a Cruze. I had more fun driving a fucking Prius than that shit box. Also, they're only good till about 100k km. After that, they become junk.
Camden Cruz
Oh that explains why I still see these terrifying little shits running around.
I would spoiler it if I could.
Liam Brown
This.
Joseph Murphy
New Corollas are garbage, don't even bother. The Altis looks edgier but it's still the same basic car that's been getting BTFOed in every comparison test in the US.
I hear the new Civics are pretty good, but I'd consider the Mazda3 if you actually enjoy driving. Depending on where you are in Asia the Mazda's handling might be worth more than the Civic's extra power, and personally I think it's much better looking and has a nicer interior. (The new Civic is a big improvement over last gen, but it still looks like a Honda, while the Mazda feels like a BMW or something.)
It's not the 90s anymore, user. Kia stepped their game up big time.
Brandon Ross
Post real pics, not renders.
Asher Ramirez
Can someone sumerize this?
I'm already 2 minutes in and wishing I could just skim this shit instead of having to listen to this guy
Michael Fisher
Render or not, it's still leagues ahead of Corolla and Civic interior.
If you care about tech, get the civic. If you care about driving, get the Mazda3. If you plan to drive the car for 40 years until it does, get the Corolla otherwise it's trash.
Henry Murphy
He lives in Arizona. You need to take him seriously.
Carson Hughes
I think it's a real photo, just with studio lighting and a bunch of photoshop, actually.
Here's one from R&T, still looks pretty damn good for the money. I've been in a 3 and was quite impressed by it, and it wasn't even the updated '17 model.
Jonathan Gonzalez
Hey everybody, I just got off from work. Thanks all for the input although some an/o/ns sidetracked from the thread. Anyway, I'm either getting the Corolla Altis 2.0V (with paddle shift CVT) or the Honda Civic 1.5 Turbocharged. Looks like most of the majority here is saying to get a civic, though.
I tried redefining the Corolla Altis while I was at work, ended up with this. Looks cool as fuck.
Jackson Thomas
New Elantra GT or Mazda 3 hatch.
Sebastian Baker
Civic hatch with a 1.5L turbo and a 6 speed manual
Modern Toyotas are shit
Parker Miller
Tranny failures were for their V6 cars like 15 fucking years ago
And the most complaints any Accord got was premature rear brake wear, which was fixed under a recall
>2001 Pilot >Ignition switch problems It's fucking nothing
Oliver Turner
OP here, no hatch here, also no manual. only CVTS offered on our country.
William Miller
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David Torres
The Mazda3 has a good 6-speed automatic. It's a little louder, but it's better in some regards than the Civic and Corolla (handling, feel, infotainment).
The Elantra Sport is probably the best choice if you want a quiet ride.
Between the Corolla and Civic, get the Civic. The Corolla is pretty old-school in a negative way.
Jeremiah Garcia
T H I S H I S
Brandon Cox
nice samefagging
Robert Bennett
Get the Corolla or camary Hyundai Sonata or Elantra Chevy Malibu
Brandon Nelson
Need a nap?
Nicholas Ross
Hyundai elantra sport, you won't regret it. DCT and turbo engine making 201 HP
Connor Russell
Definitely looks more aggressive and cooler but still kinda ugly in general. My '16 Corolla is ugly too but in a cute kinda way.
Brayden Thompson
does the Elantra Sport also have the horrible steering as the base Elantra? Electric power steering was a mistake.
Joshua Kelly
From what I gather the steering is a bit numb like all Hyundai's, however, it's very direct and highly sensitive to driver input
Jonathan Clark
>Ctrl+F >Focus >0 of 0
Focus is pretty alright. I get about 29mpg being (what I feel is) somewhat aggressive on acceleration. Then again, I'm not even sure if that's an option for you. If I had to choose between those 2, I'd likely get a Civic. Or a Mazda3.