what is with this general lately >fempyro thread drama >drawfag drama >avatarfagging >name rolls drama >posts seemingly getting deleted for no reason >nobody actually plays the game
WHEN IS THE UPDATE VALVE I FUCKING SWEAR IM GOING TO GO INSANE SOON I CANT HANDLE THIS
Jace Miller
>overwatch doesn't have trading why even bother
Levi Clark
I can't wait for the update so we can complain about the balance changes
Is k/d ratio important to track in this game? I mean in this sense do people judge you by that stat?
Gavin Johnson
Remember that one thread about TF2 domination lines for Overwatch characters?
Grayson Torres
not really but if your high scoring and get objectives your k/d will likely be good anyways
John Cruz
No, not really. It's just something to keep in mind. You don't want to die constantly in order to get one kill. It's just a thing to keep in mind when improving as a player.
Cameron Sullivan
Game is actually lot of fun. It's fun because it's mostly like Quake's multiplayer and they haven't changed the core values of it (i.e. speed). Funny how Id Software managed to make so perfect framework back in the day.
Juan Diaz
This casual matchmaking system is still fucking cancerous and terrible.
Not only queues but awful matches with zero balance are common, you wait for a match and then it's a quick stomp because one team has 12 people and the other has 3, then back to queues.
There aren't community servers to pick up the slack, tons of shitty ones running maps like orange, or it's a 32man shitfest.
There was nothing wrong with server browser and valve servers before, NOTHING. Stupid retards at Valve killed this fucking game.
Nolan Gray
did you edit that in paint why do i see pencil doodles on it
Brody Edwards
stop wearing hats in the house you ape-mans
James Williams
>ask b4nny when he's going to fuck nursy >he ignores me
Anthony Hill
ask nursey then i bet they erp after pugs
Samuel Torres
What are you gonna do about it big boy? Complain on the interne--oh..
Jackson Sanchez
Stop calling me a big boy you big boy.
Caleb Hughes
For you.
John Watson
why is it so difficult for you guys to accept the truth?
Ayden Hernandez
Leave this general. For me. Because sniper has the highest skill ceiling.
Joshua Morgan
Because he's also got the lowest skill floor
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Nathan Gonzalez
>pointing and clicking with hitscan monkey island is more challenging than that
Jack Parker
Mge me as snipers then. I will be with aimbot.
Julian Johnson
As a new player the matchmaking seems to be problematic. Often it's completely out of balance.
What can we do about it?
Adam Powell
assuming the highest possible skill ceiling is to be as good as a hacker then a hacking pyro with perfect understanding of where flame particles are going to go and when and where to reflect projectiles would still be less effective than even a hacking heavy.
Isaiah Carter
>Sniper takes skill guys! *Stays back away from the action and pops off shots until he shoots somebody.*
Adrian Anderson
You are schizophrenic? There's no doodles on it...
Noah Reed
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Mason Gonzalez
That would still be less effective than a natascha heavy lmao
Oliver Wright
effectiveness != skill ceiling the fact that hitscan can be botted shows you how easy it is. a dumb soulless machine can do it.
show me a demoman or huntsman sniper bot with 100% accuracy and then we'll talk
dont fuck with me i can clearly see the lines doodled onto it with mspaint
Camden Reyes
i said 100% accuracy. this guy misses on his 3rd shot already.
projectile based weapons actually require skill
Josiah Foster
>Let me use a program to literally give myself an advantage that cannot be possible with average humans. >Somehow this proves that sniper takes skill.
Hmmmmmm
John Anderson
Hitscan aimbots aren't 100% either
Blake White
but even then pyro at its absolute most effective possible in a situation where everything is going for him doesn't even come close to a sniper under worse conditions. skill ceiling means nothing when the scenarios that allow pyro to perform well are so infrequent that they never necessitate playing the class. if sniper is so easy then it should be easy to beat a hacker is the line of thinking he's going for.
Matthew Reed
>He doesn't know how to read a video description
L M A O AT YOUR LIFE
Camden Murphy
>skill ceiling means nothing when the scenarios that allow pyro to perform well are so infrequent that they never necessitate playing the class. sure, but that doesn't change the fact that pyro has the highest potential skill ceiling.
Jason Butler
You are insane. I am sorry but you should take medication immediately.
Landon Harris
who is that one player you always run into playing pubs?
Ryan Fisher
EXCUSE ME BUT CAN YOU PLEASE KEEP IT DOWN IM TRYING TO LISTEN TO THE ANTS
Easton Moore
nothing, Valve doesn't give a flying fuck about the state of the game
Angel Wright
why isn't there an official instagib mode in tf2
Austin Bennett
>cannot be possible with average humans. It's technically possible. That's why sniper have highest skill ceiling. You can't talk shit about it unless you are really good at it. Otherwise you are just mad shitter.
Jeremiah Gomez
i mean in imaginary scenarios that never happen, sure, take that trophy and put it on your shelf
Henry Reed
you're just mad because you can't join a valve server to stomp third world poorfag kids anymore.
match making is the best thing that happened to tf2 since f2p and mannconomy
Mason Hernandez
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Bentley Gonzalez
>Tfw experienced all types of aimbots and can pinpoint exactly what program they are using. >Tfw some idiot is telling me that a person can replicate these actions.
Right, because a person can see through walls and know exactly where you are. Comparing a person to a program is literally the stupidest thing I've heard.
You clearly don't know what aimbots actually do besides "hur it shoots good".
Anybody can aim well, sniper isn't the only class that requires aim.
The problem that I have with your shit argument is that aimbots aren't what humans are capable of, period. It literally gives you a distinct advantage through the game itself. Ie. Wallhacks, artificial lag.
Owen Martin
>Anybody can aim well clearly not, as people still main pyro
Jackson Diaz
>Shotguns/flares don't require aim.
Right. I forgot secondaries exist in this game.
Jeremiah Reed
>the fact that hitscan can be botted shows you how easy it is. a dumb soulless machine can do it. well ain't that something also >aiming flares >when the scorch shot exists
Adrian Barnes
Why are you all talking past each other trying to determine skill in two completely different arenas with one acknowledging the existence of aimbots and script/prediction programs and the other assuming the metric doesn't involve them?
Asher Mitchell
Are you even trying to debate at this point? Your points are as durable as wet paper.
Programs designed to be perfect as possible =\= humans with flaws.
Brayden Rogers
I will turn wallhack off and decrease aimbot fov to 1-3. You will still bitch about it ? I guess you are just bad. >You clearly don't know what aimbots actually do besides "hur it shoots good". Tell me about mr expert.
Justin Miller
well apparently hitscan is so easy it basically doesn't require skill but now it takes skill when it backs up your claims? that's not helping your case.
James Anderson
god im so fucking sick of hackers and their smug as fuck attitudes. they are going to kill this game dead if valve doesnt do something
Thomas Fisher
>Program that is designed to instantly shoot you with inhuman reaction speeds. >''Hurr a person can totally do this! They need to be skilled enough durrr!"
Changing your in-game settings won't stop the bot from doing what it's designed to do.
Stop kidding yourself. C'mon.
Connor Perez
im playing on 2fort right now just cus i know hackers arent gonna come bother with a stalemate server anyways
Julian Scott
>Program correct your shots by few degrees >HOW CAN I EVEN COMPETE?????????? Get good buddie. I was playing with legit config at tf2center versus sniper mains and they outsnipe me frequently
Tyler Roberts
Aiming requires skill. Sniper just needs to stay back and pop shots. That's it. He can take as long as he wants aiming because he isn't in the front lines. In fact, by your logic, Spy requires the highest skill.
He's basically a sniper. The revolver technically being an unscopable sniper rifle. It shoots one bullet at a time.
Wyatt Sanders
You can use the best aimbot in the world but it's still being controlled by a fat loser with flaws.
They probably had better game sense than you. You're probably even worse without the cheat. You rely so much on the program doing the work for you that you ignore everything else.