How bad can an opel astra be as a first car?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

RUST

Nojokur
Nojokur

It's fine.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

What generation? What engine?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Fried_Sushi
opel astra G 1.7 DTI

likme
likme

@Spamalot
1.7 dti
75 hp
0-100 in 15,5 seconds

You'll eventually end up killing yourself.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Spamalot
ONE POINT SEVEN liters? Do you really NEED an engine that big?

Firespawn
Firespawn

@likme
a trike would be faster holy fuck
@Gigastrength
Well, it's one of the few opels on the market with few kms (around 120.000, and yes yuropoor)

RumChicken
RumChicken

yuropoor here
buy this car. its absolutely best max reliability. i beat mine to shit and it never breaks
just buy the gti version if you want more speed

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Firespawn
If you want a diesel cheap ass shitbox that would be ok as first car (for 1 year) and can accept all your abuses and is inexpensive to repair, I'd suggest the Alfa Romeo 145 1.9 JTD.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@CouchChiller
put your trip back on, mjet

TechHater
TechHater

@CouchChiller
This or a Fiat Punto 2nd generation with the same 1.9 JTD.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@VisualMaster
I'm not mjet.

When I was looking for a first ultra cheap car I drove that Alfa Romeo, the owner asked me 990€ back in 2008 and the car was fine, it only needed new suspension.

In the end I got cucked by my grandmother who gifted me her Astra H 1.4 twinport...such a disgrace of a car.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@RumChicken

Why are Volkswagens reliable in Europe but considered unreliable in the US? Does VW give us their factory seconds or are Americans just dumb niggers who destroy everything they touch?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Dreamworx
Europeans are conditioned to take VAG's hairy cock up the ass.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Dreamworx
Most Euro-market VWs are built in either Germany or some other Euro country, whereas the US gets mostly Mexico-built VWs.

That, and overnight parts from Germany are cheap as dirt over here.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@TechHater
I had the punto in my mind as a starter car but now I must consider the alfa romeo 145 as well, both of these got way more style than the mundane astra

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Dreamworx
hecho en mexico vs made in germany

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Booteefool
My grandfather had a 145 1.3 petrol with the glorious Alfa Romeo boxer engine...it had a fantastic sound and revved up to 7000 rpms.

The downside: the car was a gas guzzler, but it was always a 90's engine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIryi5apYwg

Emberfire
Emberfire

@TechHater
This would be my suggestion.
The 1.9 block is bulletproof.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@TechHater
He'd better off with a Stilo.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Raving_Cute
the Punto is a valid choice.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@BunnyJinx
i have a opel astra G 1.6 16v with 232 000 km
and it's going fine
@Spamalot
why pick a diesel though ?

5mileys
5mileys

@Spamalot
Regular shitbox, but maybe you should try find smaller diesel vehicles.
Here in south america my 2nd car was a 2008 astra 2.0 flexfuel.
put ethanol cuz gasoline prices
POWAAAAAAAA
I miss that shit.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Spamalot
The rust isn't that bad. Mostly bubbles around the wheel arches. Just remember to give it some undercoating once in a while. Don't know much about the diesel engine, but the 1.6 16v is bulletproof. I've had it for almost 8 years and other than a regular service and new tires, the only thing I had to get done was the shocks. It's not blazingly fast, it's got that grandpa aura and the clutch is really fucking weird in 1st. The solution to this is getting on the beans when it bites and live with the annoyance of the occasional chirp. It's more fun in bendy roads and roundabouts than it has business being. The seats are utter shit, though. Use the gears right and it's a decent daily driver for keeping up with regular euro traffic. Mine has served me faithfully for all the years I've had it and during 300.000 km. Like I said, I dunno about the diesel, but the car in general is a very decent modern shitbox. A successor to the spirit of the late Kadett.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@viagrandad
Not a big fan of diesels, but I mentioned before that the 1.7 dti only had 120.000 km and that got my attention. Anyways I've crossed out the astra 1.7 dti and replaced it with the 1.6 16v as it's really common here and I guess parts and maintenance won't be a problem. Also added the lovely alfa 145 to the wishlist

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@CouchChiller
My astra g 1.6 16v has 482.000 and it's rolling along fine. Engine running like clockwork.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Spamalot
There's a reason if Opel discontinued the use of that piece of shit Isuzu engine with modern and better Fiat multijet diesels

girlDog
girlDog

@King_Martha
Okay mjet.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Get an Omega dude

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@King_Martha
The 1.9 CDTI were horseshit

When I worked as a mechanic the 1.9s had the worse and most expensive repairs meanwhile the 1.7 only had some EGR issues and alternators in the case of the Astras

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Dreamworx
I own Golf mk4 euro. Its shit. Almost feels as if Im using some kind of old premium car. Yes, it runs. But other shit fails, electric windows, electic mirrors, door locks, door closing mechanism, always present condensation, windshield and front windows keep steaming up when a/c on. Manual shifter never gets right in first gear, somehow gets stuck in the middle between neutral and first. Second is grinding, 3rd ok, 4th getting stuck and also grinding sometimes. 1.6 petrol consumes shit loads of fuel and has shitty acceleration. Windshield wipers started screeching. Turn signals getting stuck, i.e. doesnt work and repetitive ticking sound can be heard from hazard button. Thats not the end. Just got tired of writing this up

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@TurtleCat
Not fiat's fault if at Opel they're dogshit at making cars.

It's like what happened with the Audi 2.5 Diesel mounted on the Volvo V70 and the same year A6

on Audi terrible reliability and tons of problems
on Volvo flawless

askme
askme

@likme
My aunt has an Astra G with that engine. Says she's really happy with it.

On the other hand, you can look for the less ugly variant, the Corsa C.

5mileys
5mileys

@askme
My sister has a Toyota Yaris (the newest model) 1.0 69 hp 3 cylinders with basically the same time for the 0-100 km/h.

The car feels ok to drive in town but as soon as you're on the highway it's kind of dangerous since you need to rev to the limiter in you need to merge, go fast inside a roundabout with traffic, overtake > 70 km/h, etc..and this car weighs less than 1000 kg.

I would look at least, in lords year 2017, at something with 90-110 cv for a compact all rounder citiy car.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@CouchChiller
t. Jeremy Clarkson

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