Have you prayed to your savior and goddess Eris today?
Michael Cooper
No, seriously, how do they playtest these things?
Trained monkeys?
Alexander Jones
I want to hold hands with Mordecai
Ayden Howard
soon
Andrew Hill
>let's buff shadow haha How can Cygames be so retarded?
Gabriel Morris
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Julian Walker
They clearly nerfed Prince Catacomb?????? Are you retarded"????????????/???
Ryan Mitchell
And double nerfed the only counter to shadow
Benjamin Bailey
>Dragon gets hit into their original pathetic position >Shadow only get a slight slap in the wrist
Why is this allowed? But to be honest which other card should cygames nerf in order for shadow to not oppress us?
Julian Gomez
Sure thing Hyuk Hong Guo. Sure thing.
Dominic Russell
Kysblood, Seraph and Dshift are untouched, silly Dragonkike.
Evan Collins
So what's the first dick you going to play after nerfs hit? I'll still play storm haven, but I'm slowly completing Csword. Also I'll try put Daria again.
Owen Johnson
Nerfs are looking extremely good. But they still need to do something about Eachtar and Aegis, being legendary isn't an excuse.
Gavin Rivera
"""""""""""""Midrange""""""""""""" Shadow
Nicholas Hernandez
Neph Midshadow Shaggro
Joseph Johnson
G L O R Y B E
Logan Johnson
>Only killed a semi-relevant card for the strongest class right now >Killed the only counter to the strongest class entirely
Do they want shadow to have 65% winrate or something?
Hunter Perez
>muh aegis >muh eachtar I'm playing Haven and almost never have problem with them
Oliver Sanchez
>I'm playing Haven
i wonder why
Parker Sanders
my shitty sword deck in d1 because none of the nerfs even matter down here
Luis Gomez
S-shut up they made catacomb unplayable!!!
Kevin Flores
>shadowverse Take the hint
Sebastian Roberts
>KYS Blood, Seraph and Dshift are counters to Shadow now Are you retarded?
Eli Miller
Shadow """"""nerfed""""""
Jordan Moore
I think a lot of crafts could be coming back because there's no Dragons safely sitting at 20hp while bashing you in the face with 13 damage storm shit and banishes on the board 24/7.
Parker Howard
NEW TIER LIST 1. MID SHADOW 2. KYS BLOOD 3. NEP SHADOW
NOTHING ELSE MATTERS SHADOW 50% PLAYRATE
Zachary Thomas
shadow was significantly nerfed. they now play on the same tempo as everyone else.
Dragon easily can still form other good decks with the pool they have.
Charles Sullivan
So the only reason they don't nerf eachtar is because he is a legendary? So which other card to should be nerf to deal with this shadow bullshit?
Landon Clark
I double dog dare you to find a more cucked card
Leo Davis
Replace blood with aggro shadow and we gucci
Matthew Gomez
I can finally play my girl again, still won't get as many Ws as with Aegis but I fucking hate playing Aegis.
Lightning Blast was such a stupid card.
Anthony Garcia
expect to see more of this guy now that dragon is deleted from ladder
Gavin Davis
Eachtar is truly broken, it's not okay at all. It's like a themis with body + refilling its own board + buffing it with just 7pp
Tyler Mitchell
You realize they are just going to replace LB with odin right
Connor Flores
Dear valued Shadow players. We at Cygames love and treasure you, but since we are hemorrhaging players we needed to appease the playerbase with a nerf to pretend we care about what they say. With our deepest regret we announce that we've been forced to increase Prince Catacombs cost by 1PP. If we could have just nerfed his stats, we would've, please don't cry. In respiration, if you find that you are now unhappy with Midrange Shadow, we've nerfed Lightning Blast so those Dragon bullies can't stop you from playing Nep again. Thank you for understanding.
Nolan Cooper
>same tempo >significantly nerfed
Just look at what you wrote and see how entitled you are, and I don't even believe that it is on the same tempo with everyone else since they have a lot of other strong oppressive cards they simply don't care about Prince's nerf. Meanwhile you can't play dragon anymore just like back in RoB's day.
Matthew Wright
>followers affected by catacomb generate no shadows Fixed. Too hard for cygames apes. >hurr durr extra 1 cost instead not like chimera onto catacomb is the common play
Logan Evans
Eachtar was only broken because prince of catacomb allowed shadow to spam those shitty skeletons all day every day. Eachatar on his own is good but not op.
Isaiah Butler
>Takes 3 hours to do dailies >Takes another hour and a half to sandbag the score back down Fucking kill me
Isaac Cox
>LB gone Is Roland playable now?
Tyler Smith
>Shadow gets a lovetap >Dragon gets hammered down T-thanks Cygames.
Ian Foster
This so much. They didn't want to actually nerf Shadow and it shows.
Logan Foster
Fuck off and give me more free packs you ugly troll
Joshua King
Yes, but if they banish Seraph with Odin at least I still have the rest of my board. Lightning Blast just made this deck and ALL its variants completely unplayable.
Caleb Stewart
No. Bakamut
D-rank? It's lovetaps to both.
Ryder Martin
The dragon nerf means a lot of other decks will see play and they have to first get stats on the new balance, there might very well be decks that completely destroy shadow but couldnt be played because of LB
Oliver Williams
>truly broken Beside when you banish shadows early game making Eachtar 7pp 5/6 summon one zombie and concede next turn
Wyatt Morales
People have been looking for decks that destroy Shadow since 3 days into the meta with no success. Haven is your best bet with a 50/50.
Jace Torres
Thank god they nerfed shadow!!!!111 amirite
Jacob Morris
>lovetaps to both. >loses harder to Aegis, D-Shift and Nep E-rank?
Wyatt Butler
I feel like Eachtar should give +1 instead of +2 to all followers and he's be fine now, but we'll see, maybe the catacomb nerf is enough.
Robert Morgan
>13 Damage from hand is allowed only dragoncucks
Ryan Nelson
Excuse me but why did they nerf dragon into oblivion while not touching shadow all that much? Lightning blast now is just a bad odin nobody going to use ever again, zell now doesn't combo with anything and is a dead card nobody will ever run (perhaps in some cavalier memes now required combo FOUR specific cards to not even win the game like actual combo deck do). Basically now dragon autolose against: nep shadow, dshift, all forms of haven and it's matchup against mid and aggro shadow went from being about 50% to 30%. While mid shadow doesn't change at all. Bone chimera is your prince turn 4 in most cases anyway. This shit limits your lmao reaper + catacuck turn 5 but that's about it. Eachtar is still bullshit, soulsquasher is still bullshit, amount of shadow generation is still bullshit. I'm so done with this game.
Dylan Evans
>The dragon nerf means a lot of other decks will see play
Not when shadow is out there rampaging. They should nerf shadow more than dragon to develop a new meta since most other class have ways to deal with dragon naturally while there are no good ways to deal with shadow.
Mason Gutierrez
>Only ever run 2 LB and rarely got enhance value >Zell felt like a shit gimmick that didn't even run Gobu to improve >This is the end of the world Shadowniggers jerking each other off aside, I guess there's an argument for going back to Odin and more genuinely storm heavy decks now. If LB honestly was "oppressing" decks then okay, I like playing more than one class too, but dubious.
Asher Wilson
There's the problem. Prince Catacomb makes shadow generation a non-issue which makes great cards like Eachtar, Soulsquasher and Death's Breath borderline overpowered. Cygames being full of mongoloids figured making him cost more instead of nerfing the shadow value was the right move.
James Gutierrez
This is like the Daria/Roach nerf. Welcome to shadow domination.
David Baker
Yeah I dont get why playful necromancer + eachtar is allowed
Michael Reyes
>three card combo that usually can be performed at late game Also Roach exists.
Nathan Collins
>/svg/ in charge of making predictions this is like RoB nerfs all over again. face it nerds, shadow has been put in line.
Jayden Flores
Because Shadow is the pet class.
Kevin Thomas
Just nerf Eachtar into a 1/1 without anything else. It is still OP as fuck but at least they have to use some shadows to get its value.
Levi Reyes
>, there might very well be decks that completely destroy shadow but couldnt be played because of LB That's literally what haven is and it still has a negative average winrate against shadow.
People literally gave up against most decks JUST SO THEY HAD A 49.6 WINRATE AGAINST SHADOW
Carter Ward
>Turn 6 is lategame Keep on reaching my man
Aiden Ramirez
LB discouraged people from playing a lot of decks. I didn't run it because the decks it was designed to shit on simply didn't exist anymore. Now lube up because you're going to wish you still had LB.
Connor Campbell
Real midrange shadow (Thane and Goblin princess) and storm Haven are gonna be tier 1 right? I'm tempted to craft 3 dark Jeanne right away
Eli Thomas
How the fuck can you be 42% against dshift
Noah Hughes
i bet the same people calling the 4 pp nerf to catacomb a "slap on the wrist" are the same people who initially thought it was a shitty chimera if you people can't understand the full ramifications of a nerf to 4 pp even after you saw how much the piercing rune nerf did you shouldn't be playing this game
Jackson Hall
At least with Daria and Roach they neutered the one with the higher winrate. This is just blatant favoritism.
Brody Richardson
>consistently ramp 2-3 times Try playing the deck a lot, because bad hands are quite often, SV has a shitty shuffling algorithm.
Ethan Morales
Stick with Aegis at first till I get the vials needed for CSword. A couple of Gawains will fit nicely
Matthew Sanders
>It doesn't happen quite a lot, so it's fair
Jace Brown
>A non-significant nerf for the strongest class in the game >Hammer hit the second strongest class in the game which happens to be the only counter to the strongest class
>eachtar summon only one zombie and give it storm instead of rush sounds good
Josiah Thomas
>genuinely storm heavy decks >lose to a single ding dong
Jonathan Jackson
Only retards believe that 3pp -> 4pp nerf is not a significant change. The real question now is whether this will put midshadow in line, since this seems more like an aggro nerf instead.
Hudson Cooper
Hi, I'm a complete newbie at the game, I'm using a forestcraft deck at the moment, making do with what I got because I'm not sure where to invest my vials / what packs to buy with my rupies
I kind of like this deck I made: and I even got a 5 streak win with it (granted it was in the lowest rankings). Can anyone suggest me what should I be looking for to expand on this deck? Which expansion packs?
Austin Hill
All it means is that they play Bone Chimera or Grimnir turn 3 and then Prince on turn 4. They can't do shit like 1-2-Catacomb-Reaperx2 anymore but that was honestly winmore bullshit with all of the other tools Shadow has.
Hunter Hughes
Dragon hit 10pp turn 6/7. If you were an amulet or board deck you were fucking done. You couldn't kill them beforehand because of breath/grimnir/rahab/sibyl/fervor and you couldn't kill them after because they just outvalued you with cancer
Nathaniel Hughes
dragon's 2/3 sometimes ward
Isaac Turner
The big question is Is Roost coming back?
Ryan Jackson
1pp to 2pp means the cost doubled;100% increase, while the
Yes it is fair, have you ever played other card games? Even Roach has gotten more "fair" now that Gobu is nerfed.
Nep will see more play now that Dragon loses banish Raigeki, DS and Aegis are always lurking to eat control decks.
Daniel Hernandez
>1 extra pp for a tempo shift People are actually defending this nerf. What about orthrus or eachtar?
Carson Barnes
Use servant of darkness.
Isaac Martinez
Now Orthus and Catacomb have to compete for a turn 4 drop so it's balanced :^)
Elijah Martinez
>shadow goes first >enemy can 100% answer with evolve cleaning the board and limiting use of catacombs
>shadow goes second >lose tempo and can't play dog on turn 4 Catacombs is balanced now
Samuel Ross
Okay so shadow has proven itself to be the true untouchable class. Sorry babs im joining the cancer.
Camden Cook
Never ever. It's too powerful. Those "crashes"? That was consistent t6/7 roost otk
Adrian Hall
Accidentally clicked on submit. Like I said, 1pp to 2pp means the cost doubled;100% increase, while what Shadow get is 33% raise, and all you need to do is either summon a 3PP follower or, some weaker followers, Catacomb will make them float next turn, and there are far less mass destruction in the early game.
Logan Long
That what they said about daria and roach. Next expansion they will make more board clears and shadow will be tier 2.
Jeremiah Cox
Sheer favoritism.
Benjamin Wood
You're losing out on the othrus swing or you don't have shadows for breath, squash, and eachtar meaning you're basically a turn behind
Wyatt Perez
Going first you're still hitting at least 2-4 things with Prince. Going second a 3/3 can still wipe most things that are played on turn 4.
Levi Howard
That's some laura cocytus lever of shitty meme lmao.
Parker Gomez
Right now all class except for shadow is auto lose to Dragon :thinking:
Blake Ortiz
Apologize.
Oliver Butler
>most things that are played on turn 4 like?
Lincoln Kelly
Except that's not true ESL. Blood, Forest and Haven do well against Dragon.