>looks cool >disc brakes, unlike my previous bike >4 times the power of my previous bike >cheaper to insure/tax/fuel I'm just worried about the price.
Did every single check already. It's being sold by a reputable dealer who mostly trades Audi/VW, probably got it on a tradein. Registration paperwork, framenumber etc. all check out according to police, so as long as the VIN on the bike matches the paperwork, I'll be fine and completely legal. Problem is, a new ignition lock + keys is 214 EUR. That's an awful lot of money for shitbike, so I think I can use that to haggle him down - and then buy a lock for 40 EUR off ebay.
Jaxon Cox
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Jordan Jenkins
why did you take the spokes out to change the bearing?
Jaxon Russell
What's going on there?
Wyatt Cook
Do you use your engine braking, /dbt/?
Chase Robinson
2t motoGP engine in a Dakar frame Basically unusable on tarmac
Joshua James
Yes, a good combination of engine braking and regular braking
Josiah Russell
well pretty much only when im in town why?
Zachary Howard
Yes. Downshift with a blip, don't even touch the brakes, piss of all the people behind me because my brakelights never even light up.
Caleb Butler
>1250 eurodollars >worried about the price poorfag nigga
yeas because my brakes don't work
Adrian Myers
why unusable? its a lot less powerful than say a multistrada.
Luis Rodriguez
Either no traction or constant wheelies 2smoke power delivery is the polar opposite of a multistrada's
Easton Miller
Worried about overpaying, because college life.
An old 125 cc two stroke has a 1000RPM powerband, 1500 if you're lucky. A 500cc I4 is just four of them strapped together.
Cooper Martin
>his bike has engine braking
Evan Peterson
just curious if there are more retards like
Julian Butler
2smoke do not have engine braking, or rather If you do it with one you'll break it
V+-four written literally on the side of it
Michael Flores
nah they simply just do not have any, let off the throttle and its like pulling the clutch in.
Austin Myers
Nah, they have minimal compression braking due to the ports, but closing the throttle starves them of fuel, rapidly burning the oil film on the cylinder walls and scoring your shit
Eli Bennett
it does the opposite, you are thinking of holding a 2 stroke wide open, thats why they explode if you don't go up and down in the rev range, no fuel lubricating the bottom end. at idle the engine is being bathed in fuel and it will start to foul the spark plug if you idle without revving for too long.
Easton Kelly
My mate has the Z650. Those bikes desperately need a tail tidy.
Anthony Moore
and more power LOOOOOOOOL
Thomas Morales
>LOOOOOOOOL what does this stand for?
Wyatt Long
what the fuck is that thing
Isaac Phillips
Nah fampai if you're keeping the throttle closed while the crank is rotating you ain't getting no oil in there
Hudson Gonzalez
noob here, why does the air suddenly turn a little orange just after the intake?
Cameron Gutierrez
Fuel vaporization
Lincoln Ortiz
laughing out out out out out out out out loud nobike kys
Hudson Green
rooooofffffffffffffffffffffffl
lol u mad displacementlet
Owen Edwards
>what is stationary jets
Blue=Air Orange=Fuel+Oil Green=Air+Fuel+Oil Green+ignition=Red/Grey exhaust gas
Cameron Clark
confirmed nobike shitposter
Camden Murphy
Would rather nobie than er6
Brayden Jones
good thing it's not an er6
Parker Sanchez
nobike
Zachary Cooper
t. muzzie
Jace Powell
>3 spanish win in spain
FIXED RACE!
Adam Clark
the more I look at it, the more I think "This is how Speed Triples will look like 10 years from now"
Matthew Gomez
Is it me or do those forks look thin?
Jack Richardson
thank god I won't be alive in 10 years anymore to witness this downfall
Joseph Rivera
If Triumph cuts the budget in half or more And they get a deal with a toy factory
Kevin Robinson
hopefully not
Nathan Green
Fucking spoilers asshole, don't talk about this week's motogp until midweek
Asher Hernandez
Not really, it's going for more of a supermoto look, whereas triumph will always be more muted and classic aside from their headlights on the STR.
These bikes serve different markets for the most part, and instill different riding behavior.
Lucas Robinson
Then you get the same complaints. I never said names, class etc.
If you don't like things getting spoiled, watch it live or avoid places where they might talk about it.
Carson Stewart
What is your problem friendo? My 390 duke has more than enough power around town. A 650 is one of the perfect all-around displacements.
If you have to heckle anonymous people on the internet about how good it is to get them to believe it is true, then maybe it isn't actually that good?
It's about having the best tool for the job, and heavy high-displacement bikes aren't that for most situation on the street.
Liam White
Too be honest the perfect daily driver street bike would be a 200hp, 100kg bike. Weight matters more than power, and power becomes largely irrelevant over 40-50hp if you're just riding on the street. Sure, you want a bit more for highway cruising (especially merges and overtakes), but you don't need it for B roads and cities.
Evan Long
>perfect daily >200hp, 100kg
Hunter Campbell
so you want a bike with 200hp to weigh less than a competition MX bike that is at the peak of performance capability when compromising weight/power? keep dreaming kiddo.
Jordan Powell
>200hp, 100kg I am become death, destroyer of squids
Matthew Martinez
Let me rephrase that, the perfect daily is: >Goldwing tier comfy >Utterly reliable >Zero maintenance >Can take bumps like a 125cc dirtbike >Cheap enough to drop/scratch without care >Indestructible >200hp >200ftlbs >100kg >60MPG Sadly, this does not exist.
Nicholas Taylor
Perfect does not exist, I know that.
>yfw it's a turbocharged 250cc two-stroke
Lincoln Clark
>>yfw it's a turbocharged 250cc two-stroke >that whine/rev do want
James Barnes
not so much the power but a better way of delivering it. ptwins are lumpy and godawful to ride. yes, even the FZ07 and africa twin. it's "okay" but so is a 3 cyllinder diesel econobox. also shit are the much praised "thumpers". garbage meme engines that belong in lawnmowers and get praised for the riding that they normally accompany and not their other characteristics. they're lightweight, that's about it.
i'd rather ride a V4, V2 or I4 with 40HP than a parallel twin with 60HP. V4 preferred.
>daily 100kg bike >pic related, it's you in a crosswind on the highway
Tyler Phillips
You do NOT want a 200hp, 100kg bike as a DD. That's only usable in perfect weather on perfect roads. A DD is 80-100hp, 180-200kg. Easy to control, easy to manage the power, can handle some wind.
Jace Stewart
Everybody does.
>le cylinder layout determines power delivery meme It doesn't. Cylinder displacement, bore:stroke ratio and manufacturer tuning determines how an engine makes power.
Juan Flores
Most people's daily commute does not involve highway riding, at least not here in Europe. Less weight is better, especially for city riding. I've never been bothered with crosswinds too much actually, even on lightweight scooters.
True, those 200hp isn't usable, but as long as it doesn't add weight, why not have it? Why such a heavy weight? Don't you guys ever have to do manouvring or cornering?
Robert Robinson
ummmm you do know 2 strokes are all supercharged right? thats what the expansion chamber is for. it is called sonic supercharging which makes it sound even more bad arse.
Landon Taylor
Ummmmm you know that they aren't, right? >A supercharger is an air compressor that increases the pressure or density of air supplied to an internal combustion engine. Please explain how in the name of fuck an expansion chamber compresses the intake air. Also, turbo =/= conventional supercharger.
>Most people's daily commute does not involve highway riding, at least not here in Europe. You mean in your country. In mine and neighbouring countries taking the highway to commute is normal. How else do you go from city to city?
>Why such a heavy weight? Wind and grip. With more weight the wind moves you around way less. Also adds grip, which is really nice in shit weather.
>Don't you guys ever have to do manoeuvring or cornering? I have, my pig fat bike does it perfectly. Better than way lighter sportbikes.
Jace Jenkins
Engine layout effects smoothness (due to balancing and the number of power pulses felt through vibrations and the rear wheel) and certain layouts are better suited to certain tunes, which have become fairly standard practice and aren't being changed unless you're an engine wizard reboring, shaving, shimming, and cam swapping shit all day.
Also, there's a lot of "why not"s. Even a small I4 tuned for more midrange like an FZ6's can rev towards the moon and be peaky because a 600cc I4 that makes 50hp at 8k still has room to rev as it's probably still more oversquare than a 600cc twin that makes 50hp at 5k
And there are "why the fuck would you do that"s. You can make a low revving, torquey I4 with looooooong cyllinders. You definitely can. Turn the stroke up, add more fuel, but it's not something associated with inlines because if you're going to have a low revving engine you might as well cut weight and frame width down and just use two big cyllinders. You'd get better fuel efficiency due to having less shit in the engine to move around.
But for the sake of good vibes and sound, put them in a fucking V. If I'm going to be three feet from both the intake and the exhaust noise I want it to sound like an engine instead of a fart.
Robert Gutierrez
>I can do Google mommy! Nowhere on that entire page does it say how in the fuck an expansion chamber is compressing intake air as per the definition of supercharging.
An expansion chamber creates a peak in volumetric efficiency at a certain RPM. This does not mean it's supercharging. Similarly, on a 4 stroke, you can calculate the volume of the intake tract to resonate at a certain RPM, creating a slightly above atmosphreic intake charge at a certain RPM. This does meet the definition of supercharging, and is truely accoustic (guess why Yamaha is pretty damn good at designing heads for cars?), but it's not a mechanical supercharging method. Your proofless, citationless wikipage however, doesn't even give a single reason as to why it'd be supercharging. It just sounds cool, and then idiots like you copy the term and meme away with it.
Gabriel Young
>How else do you go from city to city? By taking a B-road of course.
>More weight = more grip Rubber would like to disagree with you, and you're trying to turn more amss anyways.
Of course a pifat cruiser will be better at manouvring than a sportbike. Now pit it against a lighter nakes bike, and guess who does better.
Logan Edwards
see just because you are tarded and it hurts your autism does not make me wrong m8. sperg more.
Adam Wood
Still not supercharging.
Mason Martin
>6.1 ft >158 pounds People say ninja 300 is smol. According to ergonomics simulator I'll have lower position on 300. You should be lower on "bigger" sportbike or am I missing something?
Alexander Bailey
if you think sportbikes are not manueverable you don't know how to ride a sportbike
if the ninja doesn't have ZX in its name it's a UJM pretending to be a sportbike
Nathaniel Kelly
>im autistic and can not comprehend the fact that sonic supercharging is a real thing you are just pissy because you put so much effort in and were proved wrong m8
Carson Fisher
No, certain layouts are being marketed as being better suited to certain tunes. Harley only making V twins is one of the big reasons people think V twin = cruiser.
If you actually designed an I4 from the ground up (instead of relying on existing infrastructure like that FZ6), than you could make it undersquare and torquey. They actually did that pre-WW2, with big I4 cruisers. Bore:stroke ratio is much more important than cylinder layout anyways, you could make that 600cc twin oversquare as fuck and rev it way higher.
The desire to cut down weight always applies, especially in sportsbikes and actually less so in cruisers.
Jeremiah Lewis
Still not supercharging - and still no arguments.
Jace Clark
>By taking a B-road of course. On my commute that would mean about 30 minutes extra. On a 30 minute commute.
>Rubber would like to disagree with you The forces of nature don't. Why do you think something called"downforce" is so important?
Please read where I said they aren't manueverable. I'll wait.
Adrian Perez
>trying your hardest to get rear ended on a bike
Luis Smith
The UJM is back niggers
Jaxson Lewis
Pretty long commute you've got then, if it's really 30min I'd look for a different job (or home) before I'd consider a pigfat cruiser, but hey, you do you. For some jobs, I'd consider it.
Downforce actually bypasses the negative properties of rubber, which seems to be non-newtonian in it's reaction to normal force. Even if it did react in a linear fashion (giving always more newtons of traction for every kg you put on your bike), there's still F=m*a you have to work around, which means you as the end user still to to put in more force to get the thing turning.
Eli Johnson
>big I4 cruisers
that's a big "why the fuck would you do that" A torquey I4 is an inefficient meme engine due to frictional losses and weight. It's just too much engine for what you're trying to achieve. A high rev I4 makes more sense because you're getting your engine's worth in power. A V4 hasn't magically more torque but it allows you to fit the engine in a narrower frame, which makes for a nice bike to ride. Which is why I fucking like them, having man hips insead of a trappy thigh gap,
Likewise, a high revving, small twin is also a meme engine, and too poorly balanced to even rev that high in the first place and still won't make the power of a high revving 4.
Jayden White
>Pretty long commute you've got then, if it's really 30min I'd look for a different job
30 minutes is pretty common, on the short side even. I'm lucky with going against the traffic jams, other wise it would just double.
Robert Perez
we gang squad now boyos
Connor Turner
If your commute would be twice as long just go twice as fast
Hudson Wright
First of all it is called "normal force." It means more friction/grip between your tires in the road. However the extra mass means you need proportionately more force in order to attain the same acceleration (in any direction, not just speeding up) so you aren't going to be able to maneuver the bike any better just from having more weight/
Michael Morales
Why the blip? Moar engine breaking if you didn't blip...
Blake Morales
> "why the fuck would you do that" Because it looks bitching. - and it's theoretically narrower than a V4 given the same bore/stroke if you use a longitudinal setup (without T-heads/DOHC).
By car standards, a torquey bike I4 is still damn peaky. As an engineer I can understand your packaging concerns, but my fetish for unconventional engine layouts in motorcycles means that a torquey I4 (or I6, or flat six) seems like a pretty good idea to me. Look at the K100, for all of it's downsides it's a good cruiser.
I'd love a 15K RPM I2. Imbalanced as fuck, but if Honda engineers can make a 20K inline four motorcycle for the street, and a 15K V6 for race use, this stuff should be possible.
Robert Torres
Where do you live? I live i the tail of the Netherlands, every major city where you can get a decent job is within 20 minutes of B road riding. Highways are so full during the morning that the pace is well below 100KPH.
Because my clutch/gearbox components are a lot harder than the petrol is my tank.
Tyler Butler
>30 min commute too long that's not very long at all
Jason Lewis
>spend 4 hours riding the same twisties over again until become touge king >spend 4 hours practicing wheelies
what should i do my twisty riding is pretty good but my wheelies can definitely improve, but i guess 4 hours of twisties will make me even better on this road
Jeremiah Flores
I've had this toy motorbike since forever, what do you think it looks like?
I assume its supposed to be some old Yamaha, what do you guys think?
Nolan Rivera
riding the same road back and forth for hours will piss off the locals and eventually ruin the spot because they will beg police to sit there, and IMO not that fun because there's no adventure. Same for going back and forth doing wheelies. Wheelies are fun to throw up and fill in boring roads but I can't spend all day doing them in the same spot over and over.
Go ride new roads. Either make random turns trying to get lost on good looking roads, or plan a big loop route from maps. Smash tooj while you can and do willys on the straights.
Jose Gutierrez
>riding the same road back and forth for hours will piss off the locals and eventually ruin the spot because they will beg police to sit there so? flip up your plate and take off like a big boi >inb4 r3 virgin
Cooper Diaz
Looks like an old UJM, but what's wierd is that it looks like a DOHC twin, but with a drum front brake. Can't think of any UJM that does that.
Josiah Torres
>narrower than a V4 But with worse weight distribution and a dumb wheelbase. Remember, the thing has to go in a motorcycle.
Clutches cost more than the minute amount of gas you use free frevving
Angel Lee
>6 more months stuck on a 125
Chase Jackson
CoG on an inline four is pretty much the same though, and a K100 for example doesnt have an excessive wheelbase, neither do those prewar cruisers. If you really want a short wheelbase, turn the engine transversely if you really want a sportbike.
Henry Powell
Meant to say >Because my clutch/gearbox components are a lot harder to replace than the petrol is my tank. But yeah, they're also a lot more expensive.
>tfw you will never ever jump on a 35kW shitbike again and be amazed by the power because you rode a 125cc for two years Almost feels bad man.