/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls Genera

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

When you get into the ZONE edition

Previous thread
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READ ME BEFORE POSTING, IF YOU'RE NEW
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Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
Full Soundtrack
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B66vvDQ_rAMyS29wdTR6ajZsczQ

DARK SOULS 2
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DARK SOULS
https://pastebin.com/Rtb5w9yS (embed)

DEMON'S SOULS
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BLOODBORNE
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sItpr6PHpoEiFbtFIBtPO4UNeNEpxuztHteANTJRHDU/edit#heading=h.od90ylbez0rz
Bloodborne discussion is welcome here, but you'll get more help in their general: /vg/catalog#s=bbg

KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3 (embed)

COMMUNITY
Discord (READ THE README BEFORE JOINING): https://discord.gg/C3AX2Hk
Player list: https://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX (embed)
Steam group: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral

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https://discord.gg/C3AX2Hk
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http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSfgmZuvPRH-V4tNCBopaHAuRjuR3AxytjlBiaoICHC6cWGYzkg1POxHyUxBoJAWAUtFHOPUVte0kWI/pubhtml?gid=0
https://youtu.be/SwUYIEFhAsY?t=3m54s
https://youtu.be/eo1LfQu5Yvc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxyXSpRA2-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qFRH7MbN_E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HIxuGi_2TQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvS6zMThiZU
https://github.com/igromanru/Dark-Souls-III-Cheat-Engine-Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuV31k2ZeZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alTQiC6hhGc
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tfy4svIKQL8Qw3UEW06B3dI8NFgMvi1sA-F5oZC9A-w/edit?usp=sharing
https://youtu.be/LjsJKQQpGOY
http://ds4windows.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_8t5ay0-YU
Methshot
Methshot

first for I SHALL PARTAKE

StonedTime
StonedTime

when the boss gets in the zone

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Ashen One, MURH- heh...

5mileys
5mileys

Imagine if Dark Souls had Mount & Blade: Warband's combat...

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@5mileys
What is For Honor

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Invades as the good goy
Lost two times
I don't know why I feel surprised

Skullbone
Skullbone

scrub tries to invade me and my 2 coop buddies
gets himself stuck in a corner from rolling around trying to bait us into mobs
we r1 spam his ass
3-way synchronized point down
Never gets old.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Anyone on PS4 need help with anything or want to do some co op?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@PurpleCharger
Dead

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Flameblow

That looks like DeS in the thumbnail.

likme
likme

@Sir_Gallonhead

Implying
Free weekend lad. I was slaughtering noobs all morning. Better than Dark Souls steam sales.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@likme
Nothing beats Dark Souls Steam Sale, absolutely NOTHING.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@likme
Better than Dark Souls steam sales.
Not even comparable.

Dark Souls steam sale
you fuck up someone so hard they might never come and finish the game for their bragging rights
For Honor
you win a match against a retard in a pvp focused game, epic

idontknow
idontknow

@cum2soon
Whipping filthy guide readers with their Drake Sword and Heater Shield.

Best feeling.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@cum2soon
Or they just play offline

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Nude_Bikergirl
That happens to both games retard. That means they aren't part of the equation at all.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

0 (Zero) ENB related posts thus far

What went wrong?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@idontknow
Heater shield is fucking amazing, you twat. You're thinking of knight's shield
designated shitter shield in 3 can't parry
a pity

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Need_TLC
Fairly new thread, it'll come as long as people keep mentioning the faggot.

@iluvmen
Guides always tell new players to get the Heater Shield from my experience, I occasionally met some with that bloody Hollow Shield with trash stability.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Need_TLC

Stream in two hours?

Lunatick
Lunatick

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSfgmZuvPRH-V4tNCBopaHAuRjuR3AxytjlBiaoICHC6cWGYzkg1POxHyUxBoJAWAUtFHOPUVte0kWI/pubhtml?gid=0
List of cool stuff for DS3.
I've replaced shield spreadsheet with my own. Now it includes all shields + infusions.
I'll add some sample builds and maybe a quick guide on creating a pvp character in 15 minutes with CE in the next update

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Lunatick
thanks guy, this is a good collection

happy_sad
happy_sad

/vg/thread/185757504#p185851339
/vg/thread/185757504#p185857054
Didn't see we were on a new bread

JunkTop
JunkTop

/vg/thread/185757504#p185851339
May as well just hand him the $20.

Inmate
Inmate

This fucker never stops being annoying to fight up close. His attacks aren't too bad to dodge, but his little legs just sweep you around to dumb positions.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Emberfire
They don't lose their bragging rights when they finish DkS offline though, what's even your point? You ultimately do nothing to them. Smashing noobs in an online game demotivates them from playing the entire game. AI mode is nothing you can enjoy for more than 5 minutes.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Inmate
Sometimes I just forget that he exists.

viagrandad
viagrandad

host and his phantom both died
use CE to revive
activates instant curse script
points down
woah

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@viagrandad
My world my rules ;)
Don't ever use cancer against me again or I'll do the same

Illusionz
Illusionz

@viagrandad
whatever, just block him so you don't get matched with him again
it's a waste of time to play online with cheaters

hairygrape
hairygrape

I can be your angle... or yuor D E V I L

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Illusionz
Wait, you can do that? How do I determine which player was the host in the recent games tab?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Why isn EN to the B just summong his viewers in his PT? He did it before.

askme
askme

@hairygrape
angle

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Boy_vs_Girl
you don't, you just guess
typically the host is the first "new" entry in the recent players section

StonedTime
StonedTime

@hairygrape
Why are they both fluffy?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Boy_vs_Girl
Just block them all? If they play with a cheater, they should get the same punishment.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@askme
@StonedTime
It's fashion, you wouldn't understand.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@happy_sad
have him fight lmao 2kat, definitely.

Also, does that include equipment? Because a lot of bosses are really easy if you have overpowered stats and equipment. That's probably what he doesn't understand, building yourself up to a point where it's just "roll and attack" takes a lot of time.

FastChef
FastChef

@happy_sad
he's just going to die a lot and then blame the game's "clunky controls" and say it isn't his fault, that it's an easy game but it's designed shitty so that makes it hard.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@RumChicken
If you just want him to fight bullshit DaS2 bosses, just have him fight the Gargoyles, Samurai, or these fuckers.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@happy_sad

Definitely the Gargoyles as @Soft_member
stated, he'll never have any breathing room if he's new to the Souls series.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Soft_member
gank squad would certainly fuck him up. They're one of the few bosses that you can't feasibly beat with just strafing and rolling, you've got to actually run around and use the area to avoid being BTFO by stunlock and spam

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Soft_member
Luci is too scared to parry

likme
likme

@Boy_vs_Girl
I parry when there is a reason to do so. In that case there really isn't any reason to parry instead of backstabbing. I would parry the Pursuer constantly though, Risk vs Reward.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Is there an MMORPG that's very close to Dark Souls? If not, what's the closest?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@viagrandad
No, there is not. MMORPGs are dead anyway, the closest I can think of is Blade & Soul or something

Supergrass
Supergrass

@viagrandad

Dark Souls 2 in an alternate universe.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Which Souls has the best crossbows?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Why are non-monster bosses continuously the best bosses (in my opinion)?

I've had so much fun on O&S, Artorias, Fume Knight, Sir Alonne that it honestly pales in comparison to any other boss so far (have yet to play ds3). Is there a reason for this? Is it just too difficult to design a good monster fight, or what is it?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@viagrandad
No, nothing is even close.

Try Black Desert or Blade & Soul.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Carnalpleasure
DaS2, no question.

doesn't pad shit out with unnecessary tiers of crossbows
Shield Crossbow for blocking while firing
those Sanctum crossbows with the 2HL2s

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Sharpcharm
FromSoftware have a bad habit of whenever they create a monster boss, they oversize it and have it walk all over the place, making the camera annoying as hell to deal with.

A decent one:
- Kalameet, hands down one of the best Dragon bosses in any video game

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Carnalpleasure
ds3. Gael's crossbow is amazing

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Sharpcharm
They aren't. Fume was a joke, for example.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@CouchChiller
Kalmeet was great but so is Midir, but the best Dragonkin in any video game are in Dragon's Dogma.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Trying to make an Iron Tarkus cosplay in DaS3
Forgot DaS3 have the worst equip load in the entire series, shit's too heavy and getting enough equip load is just terrible

Why does From hate heavy armour so much?

@Skullbone
Never played it, is it good? Or just only for that boss?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@SomethingNew
Dragon's Dogma is definitely worth a play through
it's a relatively short game, but it encourages replays

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Carnalpleasure

How is that even a question?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@FastChef
I'm pretty sure the user can show how easy those bosses are right afterwards.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@SomethingNew
Don't forget that the heavy armor is also completely worthless outside of poise, because you need to go Full Havel's and then some just to even approach the 40% absorption range.

Evilember
Evilember

@StrangeWizard
@Supergrass
@CodeBuns
Fuck, that's really depressing.

What would a Dark Souls MMO game be like? I'm thinking it'd be like Final Fantasy 14 with darker, more combat intense gameplay.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Evilember
Imagine a generic MMO, you're off to get your quest. You don't get a journal to go through, you instead have to read item description and whatnot to know how to x and y's quest.

It sounds fun on paper, but in practice I doubt it'd be fun.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Evilember
Dark Souls and MMO work against each other because Dark Souls is about being a lone force in an unforgiving world. MMOs thrive on interconnected worlds, lots of player interaction, and team based combat. You can't really make an MMO where the player is meant to feel alone throughout most of the game, that goes against the "massive multiplayer" aspect.

Closest thing to a dark souls MMO would be something like what was promised with No Man's Sky, where you're exploring a large world mostly on your own, but interacting with other players as you stumble across each other and discover the other person's achievements. In that way, Dark Souls as it is fills that role, except instead of existing in the "same" world, you interact with people in parallel worlds through phantoms.

Everquest was also an early inspiration for Demon's Souls (it's what inspired the corpse run in the game) so that might be something to look into.

If you want to see how From handles a multiplayer campaign, look no further than Armored Core V and Verdict Day's multiplayer boss fights, which were rather monster hunter inspired.

https://youtu.be/SwUYIEFhAsY?t=3m54s

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Crazy_Nice
WoW was like this, long ago.

Of course, the move away from that was a huge fucking improvement, so...

Snarelure
Snarelure

@SomethingNew
Avoid the base game and get Dark Arisen. Dark Arisen includes the base game, the base game's DLC, and the expansion, and it is awesome.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@CouchChiller
Sinh and that wolf from ds1 are alright too, I think

but yeah, you're right about the camera thing

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Snarelure
Summoning a bloody twister
My fucking dick.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Snarelure
dragon's dogma magic is closer to a summon than a projectile spell like Skyrim and Dark Souls uses

askme
askme

ENB starting btw.

viagrandad
viagrandad

NAMEBRAH STREAMING

apparently friede blew him the fuck out so hard he lost his beard

Booteefool
Booteefool

@SomethingNew
They wanted to make DS3 combat feel more like BB combat, so the armor and weight classes make less of a difference, every character rolls and moves the same now with slightly higher damage absorption for being full havel's. It's not that From hates heavy armor, it's that they want to streamline the experience by taking options away from the player in case you pick the "wrong" one.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@askme
@viagrandad
no one cares about your literal nobody streamer

askme
askme

@SomethingNew
It's both really. The bigger spells, like that twister have longer chant times versus the lower tier spells. Things like holy shotgun (just what I call it) work more similarly to DaS or Skyrim style magics. There is just actual variety in DD magic.

Plus, you get cool interactions such as a party full of sorcerers can all focus on chanting for the Maelstrom, and it lowers the cast time.

https://youtu.be/eo1LfQu5Yvc

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Stat her, /dsg/. I want to play as her.

likme
likme

Lost sinner on ng+ is intense, as badass as it is how the phantoms jump into the arena through the glass windows they give no breathing room after for me to take a sweet sip of estus.

Inmate
Inmate

@Illusionz
The host appears at the bottom of the pile, the rest being phantoms. If you know for a fact how many phantoms there were (besides you), go this many positions down

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Harmless_Venom
how british

Evilember
Evilember

@likme
phantoms?

I just finished ds2 and I think I got lost sinner on my first attempt even, but don't remember phantoms. is it much more difficult on ng+? Or rather, is it worth redoing bosses in ng+?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Evilember
Worth redoing the entire game in NG+.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@askme
@viagrandad
Getting fucked by Londor Pale Shade
Holy fuck my sides.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Garbage Can Lid
Artoria

Same build as Artorias but you can't use any S scaling weapons due to not having an S in your name.

takes2long
takes2long

quickstep 0fp dodge run only

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Evilember
almost every boss in DS2 has some new mechanic or gimmick in NG+, it's kind of the way the game was meant to be played.

Lost sinner has respawning pyromancer red phantoms that show up alongside it.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Spamalot
you can't use any S scaling weapons due to not having an S in your name

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Evilember
Yeah do a 2nd journey, DaS2 did it's ng+ right compared the the other games in the series. I believe the DLCs follow the same path the base game does at ng+2 with bonus NPC invasions and more red phantoms. Lost sinner gets much tougher compared to her ng take, once she gets to 60% health to pyromancer red phantoms will break into her cell and begin helping her through her fight.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

This has been a fun playthrough so far.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@SniperWish
You're fucking retarded.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Need_TLC
@SniperWish

He's live now and doing base game. Ringed City possibly tomorrow!

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@PackManBrainlure
R Weapon 2 - 1534 AR
jesus christ

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Man fire surge is pretty decent as a normal damage tool in low-mid level pvp.

It can drain hp pretty fast.

5mileys
5mileys

@BunnyJinx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxyXSpRA2-w

SniperWish
SniperWish

It's not as much in pvp because part of it is lightning clutch / oath of sunlight but I do seem to hit over 1K per swing on other players so far from invasions.

Doing 2-man playthrough with friend who's going sorc glass cannon, it has been fun because different things become difficult. Flaily enemies that do low damage per hit become a bigger threat than bosses.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@SniperWish
Meant to reply to @kizzmybutt

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@SniperWish
what rings do you use?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@TurtleCat
@Evilember
or just burn bonfire ascetics so you can get NG+ souls and equipment earlier

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

catacombs of carthus

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@5mileys
No thanks. At low-mid SL they die much faster because of low vigor. I don't spam the attack though.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@lostmypassword
Wolnir boss fight
If I could permanently remove a fight, this would be it. Fucking boring as fuck.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@haveahappyday
RTSR, Lightning Clutch, Lingering Dragoncrest and Leo/Hornet/whatever

Lloyd's Sword is also good if you don't RTSR or before you get it (we didn't mule anything).

Techpill
Techpill

@Nude_Bikergirl
This fight felt so out of place to me.

Like, you could remove the entire boss fight and nothing would be different.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@lostmypassword
Really good invasion spot

Methshot
Methshot

@lostmypassword

What were they thinking? It's like they used the BB dungeon generator to make it.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Can someone spoonfeed me the ds2 version of this, with all shield and stuff.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Nude_Bikergirl
Fight wolnir on my new pyro build
he summons skeletons and his sword right away
fight is much more intense and fun

Lame that it is totally random if he is fun or not.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Techpill
It was awful indeed, it also made absolutely no sense for a Souls game to have such a boss. Sadly DaS3 have quite a few of these terrible bosses with shitty gimmick mechanics.

I've never understood why he's so fucking big either, is it because we're in some illusionary world or what?

@SniperWish
It's lame if he's a boss encounter or not by pure rng. I went pure spellcaster and ended up just using Pestilent Mercury, it simply was too boring to fight if he doesn't summon skeletons and his sword asap.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@whereismyname
lots of souls make big people

idontknow
idontknow

@CodeBuns
Red Tearstone is better than LLoyd's because you can pair it with an offhand morion blade.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@whereismyname
Sadly DaS3 have quite a few of these terrible bosses with shitty gimmick mechanics.

The rotten tree is still better than most of the shitty bosses in the other games imo. The deacons even gave me a thrill the first time I fought them.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Shit invader in Lothric Castle doesn't know how to conserve their Estus and uses it all up in about 2 minutes of combat
Revs up that Cheat Engine for insant heal, auto regen and probably some other shit
Slides and teleports around for a backstab after failing about a dozen parries
Blocced.
These fags are even worse than people who blatantly cheat from the start.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

is it bad if I get boners from killing desert sorceresses? It's normal, right?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@BunnyJinx
Tried rolling spells only
Forgot to attune Farron Flashsword / Greastsword
The fucking pain.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Ignoramus
The worst type of invader are the ones that give themselves a very small animation speedboost and then pvp normally. Just enough so that unattentive people won't notice, but enough to give them an significant advantage. I have only encountered these in dark souls 2 though

SniperWish
SniperWish

@VisualMaster
These fuckers are the worst, they're also insanely common to meet.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Garbage Can Lid
This is probably better.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Techpill
@whereismyname
In DS3's preview trailers, Wolnir showed up out of nowhere in the middle of a pitch-black tomb of the giants like area, and didn't seem to act like a boss fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qFRH7MbN_E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HIxuGi_2TQ

it also had missing /different cutscenes for Vordt, deacons and creating bonfires from the corpses of bosses/enemies.

It really makes me think that Wolnir was intended to be a large enemy like the giants in CotD, not a separate boss fight.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@CodeBuns
no invisible Air
why? it's one of her most known characteristics.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

tfw no boss that deletes your save file if you were summoned by another player and it kills you

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@TurtleCat
Ng+ desert sorceresses deserve to rot in hell, they one shot me if any of their spells land.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@SniperWish
The ones I encountered were actually kinda decent in pvp, but they still needed to have this speedboost for some reason. I don't really get it.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Harmless_Venom
tfw there isn't some retarded shit in the game
feels good man

JunkTop
JunkTop

equip bloodmoon covenant
get summoned into ringed city
spawn in the corridor between the first spear wielding ringed knight and the staircase with harald knights
mobs still alive and on top of that there are TWO reds, one in front and one behind me in the corridor
host and friends nowhere in sight

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Harmless_Venom
tfw i CE bosses when i invade so hosts get a gazillion souls and their account banned

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@CodeBuns
priestess ring instead of chain
not using chain in any build

Evilember
Evilember

@JunkTop
Kek that reminds me of the blue spawn location before the carthus catacomb bonfire. In the middle of several skeletons and enemies both ways.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@New_Cliche
Oh, forgot that. I'll fix it.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

tfw no enemy that can be parried but teleports you to a boss room if you riposte

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@BlogWobbles
I remember the fucking teasers of how Bonfires were supposed to work. Pisses me off everyday that they just gutted it and went with the safe shit.

You were supposed to be able to set Bonfires where ever the fuck you wanted, but had to sacrifice a lot of shit to do so.

But yeah, the cutscenes of how Wolnir appeared, I believe was just an unfinished clip, seems to be just placed in some random filler arena until his own was done.

@Skullbone
The ones I met suddenly out of nowhere, turn slightly faster and faster. If they do happen to win, they spam point down in the most autistic way I've ever seen aswell. Imagine pointing down, but done like 7 times a second.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Evilember
meanwhile "git gud" and "blueberries suck in pvp" shit posting on dsg intensifies

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@AwesomeTucker
I just enjoy slaughtering those blues that spawn there.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@VisualMaster
I used to think I was just really bad at ds2 (ds1 is my favorite game ever I know it's a meme) until I found out that the "lag" in the arena was intentional. I accidentally hit my wifi switch while I was in some dude's world and I realized that's exactly what people in arena do. That was a huge let down for me.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@StrangeWizard
It could easily have been DaS2's horrendous netcode though.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Garbage Can Lid
you are so original

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

get invaded in Church of Yorshka
invader uses white branch thinking I can't hear him
throw a vestige at him
he gets instakilled with 350 something hp
SL51
?????????

SniperWish
SniperWish

@BlogWobbles
Probably a 1-shot wonder build, they're becoming quite a meme lately.
I met roughly 17 Farrons in Crucifixion Woods, and they all got 1-shot to a Critical from my +3 Mail Breaker.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Methnerd
Captcha: Public Sullivan

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Stark_Naked
Nah because I noticed it happened way more in arena and looked exactly like what happened when I toggled the wifi. Arena was already cancer enough without that though.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Am I missing anything?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Deadlyinx
Yes, actual Poise.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Deadlyinx
You forgot Yhorm doesn't use his Greatshield

FastChef
FastChef

@Gigastrength
Chain fucking bothers me though. It's like the FUGS or the White Pawn to E4 opening in chess. Fuck commonality.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Deadlyinx
Yhorms set

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Twinking Dancer as a Cleric so I can get the armor and access to Sunlight Warrior Shrine. Should I upgrade the Mace or Deep Battle Axe? Or just get Yoel, use his levels and buy a Dark Hand from Yuria?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@King_Martha
I'm debating on it. I know Yhorm, at some point, decided to stop using his shield but I want to have it for reasons.
@Soft_member
I know, right? It's in the game files but you can't use it.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@BlogWobbles
Dancer is weak to dark so the axe is probably better in the short term.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Snarelure
too bad the game is just a boring grind that is more about stats than player's ability and skill

Techpill
Techpill

@lostmypassword
Here's the DS2 version, it has no shields though.

WebTool
WebTool

This thread, like the board it is on is blue. Blue is justice, no reds allowed. Purge all red spirits! Join the Blade of the Darkmoon today!

King_Martha
King_Martha

@FastChef
Chain is just more efficient. It gives you 15 levels for 5 leves of priestess.
I personally used chain instead of cloranthy on every build and now defences penalty is a joke so you can't not use it.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Bandit's Knife in DS2 Scales with strength
not dex at all
What?
Why? Isn't the point of daggers that they are Dex weapons and dex builds should be using Bleed?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@King_Martha
This. 15 levels for a ring slot? Sign me up.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Nude_Bikergirl
except the grind is twice as fast and unnoticeable if you're actually good at the game

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

So.. Is there actually a point in using Steel Ring +3? Or is defense really that garbage that it's still a complete wasted slot?

5mileys
5mileys

@SomethingNew
in pve yes
in pvp no

the defense is a good boost but it gets reduced vs players

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@5mileys
It gets reduced vs players
What the actual fuck From?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@happy_sad
good at the game
in case of dragons dogma, this means nothing at all

there is no "getting gud", apart from learning that you can pause the game to heal instantly and recover your stamina anytime and healing items are sold dirt cheap in infinite amounts in gran soren

i played fighter, ranger, magick archer and sorc classes

fighter is just all about spamming the move that does insane damage and makes you invincible, using anything else at all is literally gimping yourself very hard

ranger was all about spamming tenfold something for ridiculous damage, and could be used with blast arrows for even more damage

magick archer was about stacking quadruple buff that increases magick damage and then spamming explosive arrows or richochet arrows

sorc was just pain in the ass, it looks cool for first few times but gets old very fast especially when there are enemies constantly interrupting you while you are trying to cast out that epic meteor or whatever

hairygrape
hairygrape

@cum2soon
you're talking so much shit but you didn't even play all the classes including the best one, assassin

TechHater
TechHater

@CouchChiller
To give str builds a bleed option as hammers cant be infused with bleed

Techpill
Techpill

@Techpill
they nerfed the LADLE

gets me every time

Emberfire
Emberfire

Is it actually possible to enjoy watchdoggos in the SL30 range? The invasions are 80% dried finger gank squads and 20% people who sprint the 10 second run from the bonfire to crystal sage before you can catch them

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@hairygrape
i tried out other classes but those 4 were the ones that i did separate playthroughs with
and i couldnt be bothered to play that shit game any longer, it was not worth it

Nojokur
Nojokur

What is /dsg/'s wet dream of a perfect boss?
One that starts remembering your attack patterns?
One that randomly fakes heavy charge ups and goes for quick strikes instead?
One that is deadly at range yet manages to keep you away from him with area attacks?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Lord_Tryzalot
you played through it four times before you realized you didn't like it?
are you autistic?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@hairygrape
His right tho, since defence is a flat dama reduction rather than a percentage combat is either a complete breeze or absurd sponge fest

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@TechHater
My plan was to make a character who dual wielded daggers infused with Bleed and my go to option was the Bandit's Knife but now my hopes are somewhat dashed?
Do you have any good alternative suggestions that are similar?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Nojokur
What is /dsg/'s wet dream of a perfect boss?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@TurtleCat
Of course it's normal.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Nojokur
Ludwig / Orphan are pretty much close to perfect.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Sharpcharm

power stance mytha's bent blade and manslayer, it's not super OP but toxic/poison combo is interesting

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Garbage Can Lid
Depends on her master.

A rank magic resistance for sure
B rank minds eye
High enough charisma to lead a country

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Sharpcharm
Literally any weapon that can be infused with bleed, will gain good bleed buildup anyway since it scales off of DEX. Bleed is piss easy to inflict in 2 due to the bonus to DEX, it's also kind of really shit in PvE since the flat 200 damage becomes really bad really fast and the only other effect is a making bosses slightly easier to stagger

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Nojokur
one that isn't about fucking the player up with arbitary mechanics just because the developers don't know how to make an interesting encounter apart from making it stupidly hard

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Need_TLC
what went wrong?
His life

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@BlogWobbles
our game is full of enemies that force players to roll hard
lets make bosses that make players roll even harder! genius! right?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Spamalot
Does Poison build-up scale of Dex too?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Techpill
all those amazing weapons
meanwhile das3 is boring shit
Fucking miyahacki, I still can't get over my disappointment. I really hope next fromsoft ARPG is directed by Tanimura alone

Lunatick
Lunatick

@DeathDog
Yes
Str gets higher base AR weapons
Dex gets faster weapons with a higher counter bonus and a boost to bleed/poison buildup

whereismyname
whereismyname

@cum2soon

I was watching a smelter chicken wing PvP montage and I cried

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Spamalot
Don't forget that there's a ring and gauntlets item that can also be stacked on top of either Bleed Serum or the Bleed Stone infusion (which, like everything else in DaS2, gets improved results when applied to a weapon that already has innate bleed).

@DeathDog
Both Poison and Bleed build-up scale off of Dex, yes. Faith also boosts Bleed buildup but less so than Dex (like how Attunement also increases Agility), Adaptability is the same case for Poison buildup.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@CouchChiller
Bleed scales with dex already.

DS2 is a weird game in that every category of weapons has a few Str and a few Dex weapons. There's no real bleed option for strength builds, and all dex weapons can be infused with bleed already anyway.

WebTool
WebTool

@Nojokur
Manus and Kalameet (helps if you have autism and need the tail) are still the best

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@King_Martha
Chain gives you closer to 12 levels if you count the levels you need to mitigate the absorption loss, ~7 of those 12 levels are in stats that aren't as important as scaling.

Chain is better than priestess but there are certain builds where priestess matters more, especially lightweight builds at high levels where vit doesn't matter and endurance doesn't matter as much.

Methshot
Methshot

@whereismyname
Hidden weapon/illusiory ring swaps into a pocket chicken wing

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Sharpcharm
power stance bleed infused warped sword with bleed infused dagger. Level dex. The 4-hit R2 will proc bleed on most enemies.

Who gives a fuck about scaling? You'll get more damage from rings and buffs than you would from having 99 dex.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@idontknow
Back from eating dinner.

That's what I've been doing or I wouldn't have ~1500 AR.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@StrangeWizard
Faith also boosts Bleed buildup but less so than Dex (like how Attunement also increases Agility), Adaptability is the same case for Poison buildup.
Interesting, I get attunement contributing to Agility but Faith contributing to Bleed build-up?
Now I wonder if I can work that into my build

Snarelure
Snarelure

@CouchChiller
If you're ever going to level Vigor and/or Endurance more than five times (which everyone will since no class starts with 30 Vigor or 21 Endurance), then PChain is still a minimum of 10 free levels. You just take those points you would have otherwise put into Vig/End, and put them into Faith instead.

massdebater
massdebater

@Snarelure
21 endurance way more than you need for most low level builds.

A low level (SL20-25) faith caster can make more use out of priestess ring than Pchain given that they only have 2 free ring slots, endurance and vit doesn't matter, and they have no need to go over 27 vigor because they're at low level.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@WebTool
Manus didn't impress me personally.
Sticking to his sides allows you to avoid everything he throws at you.
Maybe this +1 run might make him interesting.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@lostmypassword
Don't bother, it would be like leveling Attunement on a quality character solely for more Agility. Unless you're going to actually do a Faith build with 40-50 Faith, better to leave it at base and level only Dex and Adaptability.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@BlogWobbles
Wolnir in Yhorm's room
That's pretty gay. Would've made for a fun surprise.
@Garbage Can Lid
I remember the fucking teasers of how Bonfires were supposed to work
If you've been on this ride since des/das1 then you're used to it. Das2 was the supposed to be the greatest. After that I just figured not to trust them and hype nothing.
get coiled sword
Oh Hey! that new mechanic!
use it once and never again
I kind of just expected that. Still sucked.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@lostmypassword
Seeing as sacred oath is a falt damage increase per attack it can be breddi good on fast weapons

RavySnake
RavySnake

@RavySnake
The people in Firelink Shrine have literally been sitting at non-active Bonfire for God knows how long
Firekeeper have been keeping the Bonfire active
It was never active

I swear, I'll never forgive them for this shit, it felt so rushed and incomplete.

idontknow
idontknow

@RavySnake
See this is my problem when people say ds1 felt rushed. Compared to 2 and now 3, 1 feels the most complete. Scholar feels a lot better, but it's also a huge upgrade a the game like a year after it's release.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@CouchChiller
The absorption loss is fucking nothing and it boosts your much more important flat defense.
lower vig and end by 5 each
increase fai by 5
5 extra levels out of nowhere
Also more poise because of the increased armor.
Also, there's no reason to go 40/40, 16/40 sharp is far better than 40/40 refined and 40/40 sharp is barely any better.
Also, using the darkmoon ring with barely any fp doesn't help

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@BunnyJinx
This can't be real.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Nude_Bikergirl
Only if you are a shitter. Shitters say the same thing about the Souls franchise too.

@cum2soon
sorc was just pain in the ass, it looks cool for first few times but gets old very fast especially when there are enemies constantly interrupting you while you are trying to cast out that epic meteor or whatever
You're just a retard. You can't just spam or that will happen. You need to play smart. Holy shotgun, for example, is fast and very useful.

FastChef
FastChef

@ZeroReborn
Which decks have literally infinite value? I only see druid with jades and warrior with dead man hand.

Explain how other decks can have infinite value

likme
likme

played the game when it came out
played till the end with Ludwig's meme blade, and then the hunters held-R2 axe.
just realized new DLC is out
want to play some more

Could you recommend a build for me?

I've heard that the whirlygig is OP and the beastcutter is fun. The boom hammer also looks good.

I liked the big horizontal moveset of the memeblade, do any of the new dlc weapons have that?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Gigastrength
Also, rereading my post I realise I say also way too much

Flameblow
Flameblow

Post things you would have liked to see in DaS3 but weren't:
Powerstancing and Left Handed movesets, at least for fashion purposes if nothing else
Less linear world design
More consistant boss lore - Aldrich has a fuckton, while Yhorm has basically none, for example
Way more rings that do more interesting or useful things
More infusable and buffable weapons
Higher variety within weapon classes, rather than "Lol this is heavier and does more damage, but this one is lighter and has the same moveset"
More varied and versatile armor sets i.e. show less fucking NECK AROUND EVERY HELMET FOR FUCKS SAKE!
More balanced invasion mechanics - Less/Blocked estus for phantoms when invaded, matchmaking isn't super biased to 3v1s, Way of Blue can't be equipped once invaded, etc.
Meaningful Covenants and rewards
Arena rewards, available in basegame rather than DLC
Meaningful NG+ cycles
Rewards for certain challenge runs (SL1, no death, no hit, no bonfire, etc.)
What do you miss from previous games /dsg/?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@idontknow
DaS1 was mainly still the prototype for what would become largely accepted features in Dark Souls, it didn't really evolve all that much past DeS. The best thing it did was to make an actually interconnected world that you were forced to learn due to lack of fast travel until after getting the Lordvessel. And even then you could tell how rushed the second half of the game was because of Lost Izalith and Crystal Cave.

DaS2 had massive ambitions, but had the misfortune of being assigned an inexperienced director by Miyazaki since he was busy working on Bloodborne. That combined with Bamco meddling really doomed the project after a while, and it's something of a miracle that Tanimura was able to salvage what he could.

DaS3 was just a contractually obligated blatant cash grab without the heart that any of the other games had. You can tell that Miyazaki had run completely out of ideas, and even at that point they still managed to run out of time making the game (Profaned Hallway notwithstanding, there's also the shit with Dorkmoons being a literal copy-paste of Blue Sentinels).

To date, the only truly "complete" Souls game is Bloodborne, and that's because of generous Sony funding and Studio Japan support. It's a damn good example of what the franchise is capable of if given the chance, since it's literally a console seller (you can legitimately argue that it's worth buying a PS4 just for Bloodborne, before now you could only apply that kind of thinking to Nintendo games). Even then, it has its share of flaws like Chalice Dungeons and nonexistent PvP.

MPmaster
MPmaster

still hasn't beaten Friede

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

spend half an hour farming to get the Mendicant's Staff
finally get it
it doesn't ring like when the Serpent uses it
the spells have the normal colour and not the special one when the Serpent uses it

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Illusionz
Oh shit dude. It's been awhile.

Anyways:
@likme
is me. Tips for me?

How you been? It's been years.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Save me from this hell.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Crazy_Nice
just spawn them or DMB directly with CE

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Harmless_Venom
@idontknow
DeS was a Studio Japan / Team Ico Game
DS1 was a Hidetaka Miyazaki Game
DS2 was a From Software Game
BB was a Sony Game
DS3 was a Bandai Namco Game

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Emberburn
I'm not falling for your tricks.

Techpill
Techpill

@Nude_Bikergirl
then farm them for 20 hours, not my problem

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

What are some of the overlooked yet good weapons in dark souls 1?
Does anyone have a ranking chart just like the one for ds3?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Emberburn
PC players lol

viagrandad
viagrandad

@TurtleCat
It is. Google "epicnamebro wife cheating" and it bring you to the twitter link. I laffed for solid 10 minutes when I saw it last night trying to find pics of his ugly gook wife.

His sister is kinda cute tho'

@MPmaster
He also hasn't tried today.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Nude_Bikergirl
I've itemswapped vertebra once, no problems yet. Still, simply itemswapping dmb is 100% safe. Unless you haven't legitimately earned it at least once, in which case I understand if you don't want to cheat

Evilember
Evilember

@idontknow
@Harmless_Venom

The problem is that every game was "rushed" differently.

When DeS ran over budget, they just cut out the 6th archstone and finished the game. It doesn't feel rushed because the archstone wasn't necessary and you're not missing out on much, thanks to the mission-based design.

When DS1 ran over budget, they copy/pasted enemies and had areas that made no sense, which is why it felt very rushed to some players, even though the areas it had were more planned out (even if they didn't finish enemies to populate those areas).

When DS2 ran over budget, they actually extended the deadline, simplified the graphics, and ignored playtesting. So while it doesn't feel as "rushed" to some players, it definitely seems like it suffered the most compromises due to budget and time constraints.

For DS3, it seemed like they just narrowed the scope of the game to a very small linear story (smaller than DS1 before DLC) so that it didn't feel compromised.

Evilember
Evilember

Getting the itch to play DaS2 again, specifically scholar edition. Which platform has the most active community?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Crazy_Nice
I'm literally getting invaded constantly at SL 35~ in Catacombs for 45 minutes now, only 2 blues showed up for the fun so far.

FastChef
FastChef

@ZeroReborn
Play with all settings on medium, 1920x1080, get certain spots where game freezes for a frame or two, typically when running in/out of a big area
Change all settings to Low/Off, 1280x720
Same thing keeps happening except now my game looks like absolute shit
Any way to fix this? Are there any mods like DSFix for DS3?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Crazy_Nice
start your save file
never level over SL25
play the game normally, when you're not playing, let it run in the background (especially during weekends) so you can get summoned every 30-60 minutes. If you manage to make it past sully at SL25+2, start farming silver knights.

Do that for ~15 hours.

Congrats, you now have 30 ears.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@TreeEater
I'll be right there.

Evilember
Evilember

@Snarelure
implying you can't cheat on ps4
"lol"

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Playing through DeS on emulator

I like how unbalanced the weapons are. If you upgrade the weapon and up the stats you actually get to fuck shit up. In 3, weapons always feel terrible.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

dual wielding daggers in the early game DaS2
This shit is so difficult. Short range weapons in Souls games were a mistake.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Nojokur
why such low endurance?

I've heard that the whirlygig is a bit OP. What other weapon would you suggest using if not that one?

farquit
farquit

@Evilember
PC by a fairly large margin

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Evilember
PC gets the most activity since Steam sales ensure lots of regular miniature revivals.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@New_Cliche
Keep parrying nerds and spam weapon buffs

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Burnblaze
In 3 it feels like the developers designed the game with Straigthswords in mind. It's that fucking boring.

5mileys
5mileys

@Ignoramus
DS1,DS2 best games confirmed

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Burnblaze
That's because DaS3 arbitrarily limits your upgrade level based on area (you can only get to +7 before Lothric Castle if you know exactly where to find certain Chunks), and factors weapon level into matchmaking.

Compared to DaS1, where you can +5 a Twinkling weapon like BKH or BKGS before having to face down Capra Demon.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Stupidasole
Nothing costs very much stamina, it regens lightning quick, and there is no equip load.

The best weapon to compliment the Whirly is the Axe. If you want something new, I would suggest the Amy Arm. AA is not great but it is fun and handles crowd control fairly well.

Whirly just shreds through bosses like paper.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@New_Cliche
Cheesing best boss
But.. Why?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

He's getting ready for another Friede attempt lads, prepare for salt

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Burnblaze
Because I wanted the vermin, and hosts like to run face first into death if the boss gets to attack.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@New_Cliche
wrecking bosses like paper
I was actually hoping to avoid the whirlygig saw. If you werent going to use the saw, what other weapon(s) would you use?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@FastChef
pls help

FastChef
FastChef

is it just me or do the encounters in dark souls 3 suck ass?

it's like they are all the same, in relatively open samey areas with hyper aggressive enemies designed specifically to test player's reaction time. The combat feels tighter and more responsive than previous games, but it doesn't warrant losing the uniqueness of the encounters, something that in my opinion really made the series shine.

say, in dark souls 1 or 2, individual enemies weren't as threatening, but it was their placement and environment they were in, that made the fights feel unique and interesting. Running through lordran or drangleic, from one encounter to another, felt like solving a puzzle, and even today, replaying the game and knowing it from inside out i still find it enjoyable and rewarding to advance and dispatch enemies in a variety of ways, something i can't really say about dark souls 3

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Raving_Cute
That is the weapon fully maxed out, loaded with chalice gems, on a min-maxed str build and using beast blood pellets. You normally don't melt them that hard.

I wouldn't use anything else on a Str build.

You might try out a Blt/Str build with the Bloodletter or a gimmick build with the HMLS though. Or just use my Jack of All Trades build to try out everything in the game.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@FastChef
@haveahappyday
Same thing happens to me. It happens when the game autosaves and loads area, just bad optimization.
Tried a few things, but I couldn't fix it.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@FastChef
The combat in DaS3 is shitty copy of Bloodborne's, but they forgot that they already made the player's character as original Dark Souls characters.

Hence some enemies are super fast with retarded long combos that can lock you down if you're unlucky. It's truly one of the worst in terms of combat. It heavily favors killing shit fast or stunlocking it yourself with fast weapons.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@ZeroReborn
@New_Cliche
@Nojokur
put your trip back on so I can filter you
@haveahappyday
Other than resolution, settings barely have any impact in performance. The game is just poorly optimized. Same way that from can't balance pvp or pve, from also can't find the balanced between cardboard cutout backgrounds and acres of useless 3d rendered expanses.

Skullbone
Skullbone

How long has ENB been trying to kill Friede?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Skullbone
96 times

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Skullbone
that was his first try today but he's been putting in attempts for like 3 streams now

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Skullbone
He start started today's attempts.
He tried her like 3 hours yesterday.

He likes beating on female bosses in particular because he imagines his ex wife in them

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Deadlyinx
Homeward Bones out if he doesn't get a Parry
Dude, what.

5mileys
5mileys

tfw no pcfcbf to play games with

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

SotFS: Is it worth going above 30/30 int/fai for hex? I'm tempted to respect for the DLC and get 40 in str or dex

likme
likme

@5mileys
fuck off, stop using dead memes
@haveahappyday
not really unless you want to use affinity for some goddamned reason

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@haveahappyday
No for just hex. Any reqs above that you can just spice down

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@haveahappyday
Above 30/30 is usually for pure casters as you get access to all elemental damage types and an absurd variety of spells.
If you just use Dark for buffing weapons and nothing else then dont bother

Keep in mind that DLC enemies are reistant to all forms of magic, load up on low attunement cost muliple cast spells like Dark Orb, with a rare nuke to spare, you wont be able to load up on nukes and just 1 shot everything.
Headshot with binoculars if your on PC for a free 30% damage boost
Crown of the iron king (as in the hedgear item) is by far the best caster item in the game

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

How can he have tried this many times and still be so far from beating her?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

97 attempts later
"its my favorite boss fight, i swear guys!"

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Lord_Tryzalot
My trip is on though . . .

idontknow
idontknow

@FastChef
I don't agree.

E.G that one encounter after the dragon barracks bonfire with the two big hollows + 1 crossbow hollow + 1 hollow throwing undead charms from above is an encounter that is more well done tham most encounters in dark souls 2. It creates the same dangerous situations as the spammy encounters in dark souls 2, but with just 4 enemies.

I think they did a really good job overall.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Sir_Gallonhead

has to save embers :^)

askme
askme

@PurpleCharger
shields counter most of those flailing attacks(it stuns the enemies, giving you a free hit or two) so it's still very much dark souls combat imo.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@5mileys

I miss the bfs too.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@StrangeWizard
Maybe he just enjoys being walked all over by females. The more he gets beat, the more he likes her.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Where'd they get all the wood to build this?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I found a juicy new Force strat, if you put a spell on your bar that you don't have the requirements for you can fake the out of focus talisman shake / head scratch animation and juke somebody on a bridge/ledge into gaining the confidence to charge at you

I actually discovered it by pure accident but it was some good shit

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@StrangeWizard
@CouchChiller
Why the fuck does he wants to parry so much when he didn't spam parries in dark souls 2?

StonedTime
StonedTime

boss can be parried
you'll still take unavoidable damage if you parry :^)

Skullbone
Skullbone

@CouchChiller
Parry-king syndrome

Supergrass
Supergrass

@StonedTime
miyizaki personally programmed that so it's good

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Raving_Cute
Ah, shit, I forgot about "anonymize". Carry on then

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Skullbone
Just curioous, but isn't Friede insanely resistant towards Frostbite? I'd swap out my weapon for this fight, if I were him that is.

Illusionz
Illusionz

muh s i c c parries

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

10 estus for last friede part, he HAS to be able to win this time

Firespawn
Firespawn

@CodeBuns
Apparently not.

FastChef
FastChef

@CodeBuns

aaand he fucked it all up 2 seconds after I posted it

muh parry

MPmaster
MPmaster

@idontknow
i was not talking about numbers of enemies or how many of a different types are present at once or how much of a challenge they provide...

e.g. one balder knight in a tight staircase right after a turn in undead parish;
one black knight on top of the tower, or one below in the corridor with a blue tearstone ring;
red phantom at the end of the bridge before the boss fog gate in huntsman copse;
pursuer appearing at the bottom of lost bastille with dogs and archers, or pretty much any pursuer appearance throughout the game;
countless unique npc phantoms invasions

maybe im just being biased, but i heard plenty of people had problems with dark souls 3 feeling tedious and boring, and maybe that was the reason...

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

does this guy realise people don't parry in dark souls 3 not because it's hard but because it's inconsistent and less efficient than just r1 spamming and that landing every third parry is in no way impressive or worth bragging about

Inmate
Inmate

is anyone actually keeping count? he must have tried dozens of times by now

Soft_member
Soft_member

@MPmaster
DaS3 felt boring because of the missing mechanics, which the stat-screen taunted us with.
The no poise definitely ruined my first playthrough.

Therenext the hyper-speed enemies that spams your entire stamina bar down if you attempt to roll or block against it.

It just felt like Miyazaki forgot he wasn't working on Bloodborne for far too long. Also, it truly felt like the dev team didn't talk together at all:
- Some areas have really decent level designs that provides the perfect amount of bonfires and need of exploring to get shortcuts leading back to them.
- Other areas literally removes that ideology and hands you bonfires like candy.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@MPmaster
Dark souls 1 did enemy encounters really well too. A lot of consumeables weren't that effective and backstabbing mobs was pretty OP so it suffers from that though.

Techpill
Techpill

raging at chat for telling him to stop the parry bullshit that doesn't work

TechHater
TechHater

@Raving_Cute

He enjoys the challenge, R1 is too easy.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Techpill
He's actually starting to tilt now, fuck me this is getting stupid.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Soft_member
Therenext the hyper-speed enemies that spams your entire stamina bar down if you attempt to roll or block against it.

Blocking will stun most of those enemies though. You need a big shield against some of the big enemies like that.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@CodeBuns

MUSIC-OFF TIME NOW

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@SomethingNew
Yeah I figured that out later, but then it just felt like cheesing the game to hell and back.
Couple that with using a Straightsword, and you got what it felt like the dev team wanted the player to play like.

Inmate
Inmate

mfw he ends up not doing the new dlc because he can't get past friede

RumChicken
RumChicken

@TechHater
Then he can probably use some fun weapons as well.

Basically going through whole dark souls 2 with just an axe

Could be worse, but come on now. At least he didn't parry spam.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Techpill
He's being a fucking retard.
You can't parry Friede without taking damage.
Trying to kill her with parries is an exercise in madness.

Inmate
Inmate

@haveahappyday
30/30 is ideal if you grind for a ton of spices so you can still use the best hexes.

40/40, 30/50, or 50/30 is best, depending on which hexes you want to be able to use. Dark Greatsword, Affinity, Climax, and Dark Dance are all worth using.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

HE IS ACTUALLY BECOMING WORSE EVERY ATTEMPT

you keep telling me what to do chat
dont fucking tell me what to do

He can't even get past part 1 now, he's tilting at the chat instead, thank you based Friede!

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

keeps trying to parry over and over

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvS6zMThiZU

eGremlin
eGremlin

MUST
PARRY
EVERYTHING

Flameblow
Flameblow

He'll get it this time.. 9 estus 3rd phase.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@eGremlin
@TalkBomber
@Sharpcharm
@GoogleCat
@Inmate
@King_Martha
@CodeBuns
@TechHater
@Techpill
@Raving_Cute
@FastChef
@Firespawn
@CodeBuns
@Illusionz
Holy shit just fucking post in his twitch chat instead of shitting up the thread with posts about a twitchfag nobody fucking cares about

cum2soon
cum2soon

Is this it?

posting just to jynx him

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@cum2soon
yes it is

girlDog
girlDog

@SniperWish
scraps thrown down the majula pit

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Stark_Naked

shut up faggot, I'll do whatever I want

TechHater
TechHater

@Stark_Naked

I don't want to make a twitch account and the chat is cancer anyway.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I.. I don't know what to say, I'm truly baffled.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@cum2soon

KEK

good timing lad, he was getting close too

Evilember
Evilember

@Ignoramus

It wasn't, but maybe this is.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Watching a tournament right now but also want to watch ENB job
Life is hell

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Fried_Sushi
what tournament?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

stops using youtube because the comments upset him
turns his twitch chat into a moderated safe space
still gets upset with twitch chat

it's almost as if the problem is his own attitude or something

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

*blocks your path*

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Sharpcharm
Is Friede /ourgirl/ guys?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Crazy_Nice

For Honor

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@King_Martha
That game is still alive?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Did enb have this much trouble with any ds2 boss?

ds3 is casualized they said

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@PurpleCharger
no lol

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Why is the using frostbite against a frostbite enemy lmao
Ariandel dies to bleed in 5 seconds

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@PurpleCharger
he had to give up his attempts at 2 knight ivory king

Lunatick
Lunatick

@PurpleCharger
He is also making it harder for himself though. So weird that he haven't tried a new weapon by now.

OR GETTING SOME FUCKING VIGOR

Emberburn
Emberburn

@CouchChiller

*parries u*

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Techpill
ENB is sometimes a nice and chill individual but other times he is a complete dunderhead.

He also expects his mods to read his mind on when it is okay to not backseat or spoil shit and goes back and forth on his policies for both. His moderators are for the most part good / great but they can't do their jobs because ENB is like

"hey guys don't spoil stuff for me ok? :("
retards go and spoil anyway
retards get banned
"hey guys it's okay don't timeout people I don't actually care :3"
next stream the cycle starts over

Spamalot
Spamalot

@AwesomeTucker

Yes? It's very active on console, PC coming players coming back too due to the new season. "That game is still alive?" is pretty much the normie youtube comment on every FH video, don't do that.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

how many times did it take guys you to beat friede?

was it anywhere near or over 100?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Sharpcharm
3

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

i got greedy

WebTool
WebTool

@Sharpcharm
7 or less. I don't really remember, but it was fairly quickly.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Sharpcharm
20, but I was on NG+7

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Fuzzy_Logic
Friede beating ENB's ass is almost as amusing as Ludwig making DSP ragequit.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Absolute MADMAN'S Crucifix is fun as heck. HECK!
@PurpleCharger
It is casualized though. Summoning trivializes her

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Sharpcharm
Around 10 times maybe. Can't really remember.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

G R E E D Y

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Is there a safe way to cheat for achievements?
Specifically so I don't have to spend another 40 hours grinding Silver Knights.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Sharpcharm
I took like 6 or 7 because i kept summoning Gael in order to give her more health for the third part.

farquit
farquit

@Garbage Can Lid
summoning trivializes her
???
Summoning trivializes literally any boss from the franchise aside from bosses like Dragon God where combat skills do not even matter. Summoning is not an argument.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

This is actually getting painful.

Methnerd
Methnerd

he has turned off chat now and have become a bit calmer

still though, he apparently "gets greedy" every single time he dies

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@farquit
DS3 also has Midir which summons actually make harder

Booteefool
Booteefool

@AwesomeTucker
For honor probably has as much pvp activity as DS3. It's only 1500 players but since they're all doing pvp, it's more active than 6000 players in DS3 where only 1/10th of them are doing pvp.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Was his playstyle always this passive? It's annoying to watch him miss a ton of opportunities to hit Friede/Ariandle

farquit
farquit

@Sharpcharm
I'll be honest, I have never beat Friede on my own and ENB is probably overall better at the game than I am. I still love watching him struggle at the boss.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@CouchChiller
start steam in offline mode
launch game and CE
itemswap DMB
or
pick one concord
drop it on the ground
change the number of them to 31
turn them in
or
use 100% drop rate script

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Sharpcharm
2 times, once at the end of the second phase and once in the third phase

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@farquit
Thing is, bosses like friede get even more buttfucked because she can be cornered, stunlocked and generally have all her strengths taken away from her. While other bosses are made easier because the summon powerup isn't high enough to balance the extra damage and attention shift of a summon, friede could take 10 times more hp and damage per phantom and she'd still be trivialized

idontknow
idontknow

@Stupidasole
Can you please spoonfeed me on the script? Where can I get it?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

NOW is the time. 10 estus third phase he's going to do it.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

how does greatshield work against friede?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Boy_vs_Girl
if it's not a riposte it's not a real hit :)

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Did he really try to parry that last attack that killed him....?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Sir_Gallonhead

GOT GREEDY AGAIN! :^)

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

How do I make the Bandit's Knife work in pvp? I just got to the woods, got invaded, and was outplaying the dude quite a bit, but doing 60 a hit was really rough and I couldn't keep up with his damage. Does it get better?

I was planning to go with the blood enchantment, 40 luck - 40 dex, not hollowed because my character a cute.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@likme
Dark Souls Steam Sale is amazing. Literally I SHALL PARTAKE tier.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@idontknow
https://github.com/igromanru/Dark-Souls-III-Cheat-Engine-Guide

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Methnerd
One thing I don't get is that the dude has streamed almost a whole year and he still gets super pissy at the chat when he could just stop paying attention to it. When the chat is backseating probably the worst thing to do is imitate them with baby noises because all you do with that is let everyone know just how fuming mad you are.

Nigga needs to take lessons from Lobosjr in how to ignore chat.

@VisualMaster
Yeah, but regardless summoning fucks up the a.i of the boss and it brings a "wildcard" element to the fight because the presence of another actor in the bossroom reduces greatly the player's own impact on the battle whether positive or negative.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@idontknow
Just dl CE , farm 2 off of silver knights while in offline mode if you really want to be safe, run CE and locate DS3 in CE, "new scan" for 2, move one to the item box, next scan for 1, move it back to your inventory and scan for 2. Repeat until you have 2 results, then edit those to be 99 or whatever. Noe hand then in nornally, no need to fuck around with CE tables

Methshot
Methshot

@AwesomeTucker

he turned chat back on, started giving some guy shit about his comments and personality in less than 1 minute

FastChef
FastChef

How long until he's going to go online and summon?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@lostmypassword
bleed sucks in pvp

daggers are really only good for dealing with ultra greatswords/greathammers

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Spazyfool
what's up?

Inmate
Inmate

The real question is where is ENB's place of belonging?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Need_TLC
nothing, this thread was going ok till you mentioned it

Emberfire
Emberfire

did i make the right choice? he seemed like a friendly guy and the other one was a pissed off faggot

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@PurpleCharger
Yeah but that does not matter because the only reasonable metric of difficulty for a boss is 1v1 against a solo player anyway and she is balanced for that clearly.

I vastly prefer that over DS2's insistence of creating "raid bosses" that are made with summons in mind but which become pretty annoying if the player doesn't have summons to divide the attention like Ivory King, Gank Squad, Lulu and Zulu, Gargoyles and so on.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Emberfire
Wasn't he pissed off because of that "friendly guy"?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@ZeroReborn
who knows
the friendly guy told me he didnt do anything bad at all

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Emberfire

There's no right choice, they're both absolute sociopaths and you should have killed him right after getting the key

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Emberfire
they're both pricks, one of them is just transparently angry while the other's a sneaky bastard

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Emberfire
Both give the same result, both are shady, but everyone knows p8 is better and killing cr8 gives you bettee looking gear

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Emberfire

You should have killed _both_.

whereismyname
whereismyname

What's the highest AR pure phys weapon in DS3?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Spazyfool
God this is fucking disgusting
I hate DaS3

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Need_TLC
summoning for ivory king/gank squad
But why? I sort of get summoning vengral for the run up to 2cat, but keeping summons for those fights is what makes then raid bosses because of inflated hp and defense values

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@whereismyname
probably ledo's on 66 strength and the WA active

Methnerd
Methnerd

@whereismyname
BKGA with warcry on

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Inmate
Dreg Heap

@Methshot
I said it last thread but he needs to let his sister give him a nice lubed up handy and maybe he'd calm the heck down.

@FastChef
Batman made sure of that he won't go online.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@whereismyname

Yhorm's with the WA buff and Dragon Roar as far as I know.

FastChef
FastChef

@whereismyname
Yhorm's.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Emberfire
Greatest, most iconic anime battle of the dark souls series

King_Martha
King_Martha

@whereismyname
Impractical: Black Knight Greataxe with warcry on 66 strength and 99 dex. But there are a lot of other weapons (the regular greataxe, for example) that come close with refined infusion.

Practical: Yhorm's with 66 strength.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Need_TLC
In a perfect world, bosses would compensate with these things for having summons rather than having them on the getgo. I don't like summoning and I still think gargs are fucking cancer. Not particularly hard outside challenge runs, but fucking annoying. "gank" bosses like O&S or friede where you can separate the two to take them down are much more to my taste

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Garbage Can Lid
You silly filly, you're meant to summon actual players who know what the fuck they are doing to not inflate the boss hp for no reason.

massdebater
massdebater

@King_Martha
refined infusion

WebTool
WebTool

ENB's chat
all those people who keep sucking mod dick and praising them for doing basically nothing

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Lunatick
Again why? A good summon will solo the boss for you if you let them so its kind of a moot point.
If a summon doesnt trivialize the boss for you then they make the boss a tanky raidboss, you can straight up kill the gargoyles during their atcivation animation if you solo them.

Methshot
Methshot

I'm not sure ENB will survive another 10 attempts, he's been at it for hours now.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

So how many attempts was that?

I counted over 30, plus this wasn't the first time he tried.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Deadlyinx

Wasn't this his third day?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Deadlyinx
was at x115 20 minutes ago

wait, did he make it?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Crazy_Nice

good lord, he bust be near 100 tries if he tried just as hard every time

the first two faces are easy, the third is the one that is kinda hard
kinda

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

holy shit that build

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Illusionz

yupp, it actually happened, I didn't even have the stream up I'd given up watching at that point

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@PurpleCharger
doing ringed city next
he wont make it past demon princes

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@WebTool
His mods are good. The problem is that enb cucks them and never allows them to go full ham and ban spoiling and backseating.

"Fuck off with the backseating, go play the game on your own if you want to!"
his mods actually do shit
"naw don't time people out tho' it's all good :3"

It's like he adjusts the rules on the spot and takes turns at inviting backseating and spoilers just so he can turn around and start chewing people out for the same shit he gives compliments for on another day or other time of day in a similar situation. He completely lacks consistency in what is haram on his stream when it comes to "backseating" and spoiling.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@TurtleCat
at least they can't be parried so he has no excuses to autistically homo bone out

iluvmen
iluvmen

@PurpleCharger
I thought this guy was supposed to know a lot about Souls games?
That looks like the same retarded "quality" build I did on my first playthrough.

idontknow
idontknow

@Need_TLC
If you summon for ivory king and rush down the burnt knights too fast then they keep spawning into the boss fight itself, if you solo then its pure 1v1
If you summon for 2kat then you wont be able to burst down he first one before the second one activates
If you summon for gargoyles and split damage among them then more activete at once, if you solo its easier to keep only 2 active at once on top of being able to burst them faster and get them to the 50% stay back and breath fire hp threshold
If you summon for gank squad then getting rid of them one by one becomes harder as it takes far more combos to finish off even the weakest

Those were some breddi bad examples

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Nojokur
I bet he'll try to parry gael for like forty straight attempts

King_Martha
King_Martha

@TurtleCat

He will because he won't parry them @Nojokur

Now the Halflight fight..

hairygrape
hairygrape

manikin, regular or crow claws?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Firespawn

"is Gael parryable guys?"
chat tells him yes
proceeds to die 400 times in a 8 hour stream
chat tells him to stop parrying it wont work
"chat stop backseating you're really pissing me off"

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Sharpcharm
Like 40 but I did it with just parrying and then when I got good enough I didn't kill her and waited for 2nd dlc before killing her normally.

I tend to give myself handicaps so the game is actually challenging. Otherwise I just breeze through everything.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@hairygrape
Regular
put manikin claws in game
don't put manikins or any of the other manikin stuff

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@iluvmen
He worked on the DS2, Bloodborne and The Old Hunters official guides under FuturePress. I think one of the things he was doing for the DS2 strategy guide at least was writing boss and enemy strategies.

He has not played DS3 in over 7 months or so before this particular run so he must be very rusty.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@massdebater
Refined is actually the best infusion when you're able to invest 66/40, like at SL180+. That's what they did to patch the infusions, they made the best infusion at low levels Heavy, mid-levels Sharp, and high levels Refined, assuming the weapon's scaling was quality to start with.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Try to come up with the stupidest looking build for my Ornstein and Smough assist character
Notice the Traveling Boots still have a dick bulge on female characters
Pharis' fedora doesn't interfere with the twintails hairstyle

Dickgirl in a diaper with a fedora. Bueno.

Inmate
Inmate

@Spazyfool
post pics

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Need_TLC
yeah they dropped the ball on carrying over good ds2 sets
why regular may I ask? quickstep seems more useful than the anime attack

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

how do I twink dancer

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Inmate
t.yanderegirlsonly

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Deadlyinx
@Deadlyinx
Heavy is still better for Greataxe ar 66/40.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Spazyfool
spank in the ass with dark hand

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Emberburn
anime attack is more useful as it combos into an L1, cuckstep is only good on daggers

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Deadlyinx
anon in charge of not pulling builds out of his ass
Greataxe, all 2handed by the way

takes2long
takes2long

@Booteefool

Which one is which? Why is it so hard to tell the diffence between the infusions.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Inmate
M'sun

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Emberburn
manikin set
good
Meanwhile they ported over the actual good sets like Drakeblood, Faraam, Alva, Black Witch and the Ruin set.

JunkTop
JunkTop

""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Dark"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Souls II

King_Martha
King_Martha

@takes2long
The top is obviously sharp because it's 27/80. Then Refined, then Heavy.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@TalkBomber

They didn't port the royal swordsman set though

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@JunkTop
i almost started to miss you

Nojokur
Nojokur

@takes2long
palm
sharp
2 hands
refined
beefed arm
heavy.
It's been a year and a half
@TalkBomber
The manikin set is special as the mask fully symbolizes the bait and switch of the ds2 promo vs the actual game

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Nojokur
original mask was too anime

5mileys
5mileys

@Sharpcharm
Seven

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Lord_Tryzalot
Or he is just a fraud that just doesn't want to work a real job, which is why his wife left him.

Hell, I was playing BB today with under powered and under gear characters and still cruising through bosses with no real issue.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Nojokur
they have pictures of hands

Shit, I always thought the icons were of granite texture or something.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Nojokur
palm
sharp
>>2 hands
refined
beefed arm
heavy.
HOLY FUCK THEY ARE ACTUALLY ICONS!!?!?!??!

I just thought they were some token that symbolizes they are infused.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Emberfire
Nigga you blind. Post more binocs

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Poker_Star
The lack of Royal Swordsman set in DS3 makes me sad.
The Deserter set in DS3 is pretty fucking dope tho'.
Would love to see something like the DeS plate set with the Kettle helm return but eh.

TechHater
TechHater

what's the most contrarian opinion you have on the Dark Souls games?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Need_TLC
didn't realise that I'll have to try it thanks

@TalkBomber
no benhart
no hard leather
no varangian
no royal swordsman
no heide
no insolent
no mad warrior
no vengarl
no throne watcher/defender

Methshot
Methshot

@Spazyfool
The Swordsman set.
Syan's.
Jester.
Insolent for that Crusader look.
Heide.
I could go on...

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Spazyfool
There's a shortage of perfect breasts in Dark Souls fanart. This is the first one I've seen that gets it right.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@TechHater
Dark souls 3 invasions are fun

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@farquit
3 has a severe lack of stupid masks
@cum2soon
no hard leather
???

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@TechHater
Invading is less fun than being a dedicated sunbro

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@TechHater

Bed of Chaos is a good boss.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@cum2soon
Heide
The Consumed King's Knight armor looked better. Would also like Targay's armor.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Ignoramus
Well, it's a decent gimmick. Reminds me of playing Des a lot. Like, it almost seems like it was taken from Des as cut content.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@ZeroReborn
That's not contrarian, it's truth

Skullbone
Skullbone

@ZeroReborn
Seconding this. I would change a few things but in general I like how they play out and they've made me find more creative ways to be a dick than just "go up to someone and rape him"

girlDog
girlDog

first time playing after months
enter church spear alone
dude's hacking flying and spamming magic
he can't kill like that so he instakills me suddenly

get summoned as a white phantom after that
purple invader enters the boss

well see you lads, this game won't be missed

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Garbage Can Lid
yer man the hard leather set from ds2, not pate's set
it's probably my favourite armour set from any souls game

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@eGremlin

I think it's basically Dragon God done correctly, but presented incorrectly.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Ignoramus
imo the worst part is that you don't have to do all over again when you die

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Skullbone
Use basic cunt tactics while invading
[Host] has sent you a friend request

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Stark_Naked
dragon god has a stealth mechanic (you can sneak past him by using the pillars, if his eyes don't turn red then he won't see you and therefore won't attack) and a secret weapon (DBS)

bed of chaos has nothing to justify its existence, other than being frustratingly vague for players who fight it without using a guide. At least dragon god funnels you toward the ballistas, and it's pretty easy to figure out what a ballista does when you see it, unlike Bed of Chaos's glowing orbs, which could be anything until you actually hack away and attack them.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@SniperGod

The problem with Dragon God is that it's always the same fight. Bed of Chaos gives the player multiple ways to approach the fight.

massdebater
massdebater

I'm not the only guy who repeatedly reposte-punches Silver Knights in the dick with an empty hand over and over while waiting to be summoned... r... right?

Inmate
Inmate

sprint directly at Sulyvahn, first attempt in 7 months
took me three days to get to midphase on my first runthrough back at launch
oneshot him near flawlessly

get stuck on Aldrich for two days

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@CodeBuns
Fanmail is the greatest

Host and two password phantoms make it all the way to the end of the Cathedral Rooftops
They don't open the door, presumably because they don't want to give me an escape route
Every enemy cleared except those hollows praying at the end of the promenade

All I needed. Those screeching hollows that charge at people can be pretty effective, and once it was a 2v1 that was all she wrote because they were all dogshit at the game and the second phantom was out of estus.

Two friend requests
One was the host screaming at me because he lost 30k souls, claiming he doesn't even feel like playing the game anymore and that he hopes I am happy with myself
Other was one of the phantoms calling me scum for using dishonourable tactics (in a fucking 3v1) and ruining their co-op run
tfw immensely happy with myself

TechHater
TechHater

friend doing a mostly greatbow run
summons me for co-op, dried fingers activated
mfw we get to TRC

Good god I have literal cancer. Between the unfun cheaters, chaos daggers, meta cunts and faggots backing up into enemies constantly even when we made it clear it wasn't a gank, I could feel myself wanting to put a bullet into my head. The most unfun experience I've had in a while.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@TechHater
greatbow run
That's a thing?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@ZeroReborn
he asked for opinions not factual inaccuracies

Emberfire
Emberfire

@kizzmybutt
They are only fun if you are good at them I guess.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@kizzmybutt
The less people blah the more people blah.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Deadlyinx
I've had people go into fits of rage for something as simple as using a Hunter Charm.

It's also nice when you invade some save scumming faggot multiple in the area they cleared out, only to harass them with a Greatbow until they ALT F4 and send you shit like "1v1 PONTIFF'S NOW REEEEEE"

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Skullbone
He had a backup weapon, he's not that mad of a man.

He used the bow only on Midir though, he did more damage that me.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Need_TLC
It really is the best feeling

SniperGod
SniperGod

Tell me I'm crazy

Dark Souls Battle Royal

Everyone starts unarmed in Human form

Everyone spawns in a random spot on the map at SL1

very basic stat levelling, where on player kill you get to choose one of three stats to quickly put a point into, up to a max level of 10:
VIT(Governs health and stamina)
SKILL(STR and DEX combined, basically just your attack stat)
FOCUS(Governs magic stat, you'd do this if what you found was sorceror/faith stuff that round)

Dying once turns you hollow, which respawns you somewhere on the map
killing a player while in hollow form embers you back to human
dying in hollow form puts you out of the game

This takes RNG bullshit out of the genre where you just suprise die from a camping oneshot, you have to die twice in a row to be out

bosses and pve are roaming the fields and castles and structures throughout the map, placed randomly each match generation
Basically massive free for all Dark Souls pvp where everyone starts with rags and bare fists. Have covenant modes where you team up as a gang of knights camping in the woods looking for filth to purge.

Inmate
Inmate

@TechHater
TRC invasion is pretty cancerous for both sides. The invaders are too jaded by the infinite ganksquads to consider that you might have a sense of honour, and so don't even bother holding off on maximum cancer. Hornet ring chaos dagger greatbow invader tactics right out of the gate, no holds barred.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I fucking hate the anime watchers
hehe here's some dust in your screen
huhu get a dagger you can't see to the face
oh, did I mention it staggers you long enough to be hit by an ugs?
btw I hope you didn't try to roll out of the dust because your roll will start as soon as you get hit by the ugs and my next attack is frame-perfect to catch anyone who rolls immediately instead of waiting an arbitrary amount of time xDDDD
no qualms about parrying and backstabbing these cunts. especially the firey turbocunt whose attacks fill 50% of the arena and 100% of my screen
yeah, I'm slightly bothered

Supergrass
Supergrass

@SniperGod
You're crazy, it'd be like Pontiff's and turn into Gank City after five minutes.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@SniperGod
You forgot the part where server structure and latency still take the fun and skill out of it.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Boy_vs_Girl
What the shit are you even talking about

Dust?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Inmate
I don't entertain honourfaggotry anywhere. There's literally an arena.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@SniperGod
battle royal is primarily player vs player interaction
dark souls is about player vs world interaction with pvp being a tertiary thing

Emberfire
Emberfire

@SniperGod
Assuming Fromsoft pulled their thumb out and had great servers, this is actually my dream game.

Battle Royal style games with guns is a fucking stupid idea. Melee weapons makes it work because it doesn't just boil down to who can lay prone and snipe players standing still the best.

A good player as a SL1 hollow would be able to barefist parry a SL10 dude with greatsword and kill him. It brings actual player skill and survivability back into it, rather than just diceroll headshots to the back of you when you dare stand in an open area for 2 seconds.

The 2 men standing would likely be good players having a tense fucking fight, with no honor or rules present, just the dirtiest tactics or skill you could muster.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Emberfire
the last 2 men standing

Is what I meant

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@SniperGod
Dark souls combat slows to a crawl if one of the players is an unwilling participant

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Emberfire

Someone fund this. Dark Souls combat + Battlegrounds setting.

Nojokur
Nojokur

How about a souls multiplayer where one guy spawns as a mob and the other guy doesn't know it.

Could be pretty epic.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

game idea: dark souls with lolis

Soft_member
Soft_member

@TechHater
DS1 is the second-worst game in the series.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Sharpcharm
I didn't like DaS3 so for first kill I summoned Gael after like 5 attempts, then all other game clears I was using some kind of cheese, like GCFO or vordt

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Need_TLC

I had ragemail a couple of days ago when I was firing Millwood greatbow arrows at the host and his phantom at Ringed City near the little hallway that goes to the start of the stairs where the giant fat dudes are.

Shit was funny.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Spazyfool
Millwood greatbow makes people rage so hard

5mileys
5mileys

@SomethingNew

Especially when you have that Invisibility ring.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Inmate
Yeah, don't really care about "honour", I mean fuck, if these guys were going to greatbow snipe us from a distance or be clever with a plunge attack, then I wouldn't even be mad. Or even healing, we're not here to duel after all.

The cowards who just duck into enemies the moment they start losing in a 1v1 or turn on cheats when they die are just absolute cancer (they're usually super bad too), and it makes me not want to do runs with finger on any more. But then it really would feel like a gank when the majority of the time 2v2s or even 2v3s in pvp areas are fun/challenging (in a good way), and the invaders are what makes it fun to run through areas again.

Maybe we just got really unlucky tonight but I usually don't like TRC invaders at the best of times. Shame, we were looking forward to having someone boss invade us.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@SomethingNew
tfw 80 tongues + 40 twin tongues in cathedral of the deep with obscured millwood
tfw not a single fanmail
What was I doing wrong?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Snarelure
TRC is the third worst place to invade after Pontiff's and Crux Wood.

Naturally, the only people still invading there are salty cunts who are happy to either cheat to win, or just initiate an endless stalemate until you die of boredom.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@ZeroReborn
Killed 3 Phantoms in a 4vs2 and then the Host
Had like 10.000 Souls
After the the Invasion 800.000
Were they all like Level 802

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Skullbone
I get fanmail maybe every 100 or so tongues.

It's not common that people get salty enough to do something about it, but keep trying. You tend to get a little more when you're using something like the Borthammer or Carthus Cancer Sword, too.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Let's see that fashion lads

Playboyize
Playboyize

@AwesomeTucker
So what I kill 3 to 5 phantoms all the time

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Ignoramus

Does luck raise Vordt's frost effect?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@AwesomeTucker
A level 802 phantom gives you 356k souls

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Playboyize
fuck off duskposter

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Carnalpleasure
good stuff

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Boy_vs_Girl
No

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@SomethingNew

What would be the best way to maximize the damage output for the Millwood bow

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Skullbone
tfw the only fanmail you've ever got was someone telling you that you suck and should give up after getting your ass whooped at pontiff's for an hour

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Carnalpleasure
66 STR and lloyds sword ring

w8t4u
w8t4u

Rotten Ghru Curved Sword

I had no idea this existed

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Carnalpleasure
66 str, lloyd's sword ring, hawk ring

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@whereismyname
Force-casted Blessed Weapon on BKGS.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Spazyfool
@Booteefool
I only realized after watching the webm from another perspective that I missed almost all of my charged 2HR2s because you kept knocking her down before I could.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

guy tries to bait me into group of ring knights before midir
he just stands there waving at me with them
throw down a seed
he gets hit and runs away
and then leaves the game completely
Do people forget seeds exist or something?

massdebater
massdebater

@PackManBrainlure
If he knew what he was doing he would have ran towards you, bringing the knights with him.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@whereismyname
With war cry on at SL802

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

your dad when he sees you roleplaying on the ps4 instead of out chasing tail

whereismyname
whereismyname

@PackManBrainlure
No, some people are just retarded

You know what I do in that situation? I run towards the host with the Ringed Knights and then spam roll until the seed runs out or all the knights aggro the host or his phantom squad instead.

It usually nets at least 1-2 phantom kills.

5mileys
5mileys

Wow I am surprised how something a simple as a mace can be so sweet!

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

greatsword is a good weapon and he is my friend

idontknow
idontknow

@Inmate
How??? I could understand if it was Nameless but how are Aldrich and Sulyvahn hard?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Flameblow
keep hearing about batman
Tell me this story, user

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@CouchChiller
What kind of role play?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Dreamworx
My world my rules

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@LuckyDusty
Why would he try to swing after it completely failed to work three seconds prior

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Nude_Bikergirl
Retards being retards. Also I think that webm was made right after the hyper armor for maces patch or whatever.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Dreamworx
What's the Armour set? I can't recognize it.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

How active is the DS3 community on the PS4?
I'm considering buying it, but I don't want to play a ded game like DS2 (not SoTFS)

girlDog
girlDog

@Dreamworx
Looks like Creighton's mask combined with Drakeblood Armor. Not sure about the gloves and leggings though.

Inmate
Inmate

@Dreamworx
Looks like
Cr8
Drakeblood
Drakeblood
Alva

Skullbone
Skullbone

@ZeroReborn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuV31k2ZeZM
only uses daggers

iluvmen
iluvmen

@BinaryMan
Very active, at least on par with PC. More PC players in this general, but purportedly there are more PS4 players overall.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Dreamworx
Creighton
Drakeblood
Drakeblood gloves
Alva's because i don't want to fat roll.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Lord_Tryzalot
Why were Spells in DaS2 so much more fun?

@TalkBomber
Cheers chap.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@BinaryMan
Very, most people here are PC but there's usually a few PS4 people in here as well.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Skullbone
The concept is dickass thief, not fatass thief

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@BinaryMan
Very active.

Seems to be slowing down lately. A few months ago it was difficult to unequip Aldrich covenant due to constant summons.

Now you have to wait 30 seconds pretty often.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Lord_Tryzalot
that was an ordeal

@TurtleCat
to me it feels like they have more properties to them

also not having to split your estus in half on a build that does less damage than melee is nice too

eGremlin
eGremlin

@viagrandad

Where is this, Brume?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@SniperGod
not having to split your estus in half on a build that does less damage than melee is nice too
It hurts ;_;

TechHater
TechHater

@Fuzzy_Logic
more posters apparently mean more general players on a platform
PCucks shitpost the most but their online is dead, go look at their numbers

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Sir_Gallonhead
It's fun chasing people as a grape gorilla running in nice boots

Supergrass
Supergrass

@eGremlin
small area after you kill the duke's dear freya

TreeEater
TreeEater

@SniperGod

Man, Ivory King had a really good boss track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alTQiC6hhGc

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Illusionz
I wish there was more to it but the basic gist is that some invader named "Batman" invaded him in Shulva and kept pissing him off so much that he never went online after that in the DS2 playthrough OR the DS3 one. I will have to go back and watch Batman's trickery from the Youtube vids. Dunno if it was a hacker or some regular invader but he got ENB mad enough that he played the rest of DS2 AND DS3 offline.

Also how often do you think they do it?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Nude_Bikergirl
Link? Also, the answer is not often enough

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@BinaryMan
It's pretty active, about the same as the PC. Invaders get invasions with no wait times, there are 2-3 signs around the bonfires at appropriate levels.

iluvmen
iluvmen

I'm fucking SL11+1, why the fuck I'm being summoned to shitty fight clubs at high wall when I'm using a WHITE soapstone.
There's no safe SL range from meta shitters?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@iluvmen
Some fag who doesn't understand how level scaling works

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@ZeroReborn
Starting a new file on DS3
Is it possible to run DMB or Lightning blade on a quality build

RavySnake
RavySnake

Any recommendations for a new dexfag? Just started a new character about a week ago, Currently using washing pole, crow quills, and crow talons.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@iluvmen
SL15+1
White sign down outside bort fog for sunlight medals
Some guy summons me and runs to the dancer boss fog
Black crystal out
He summons me again five minutes later
Sit outside fog wall while he gets his shit wrecked

What is going through the head of these people

TechHater
TechHater

@Ignoramus
27/40/40

It sucks though

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@GoogleCat
Summoning for Dancer is an awful idea aswell. She gets far too unpredictable.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@RavySnake
80 dex.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@RavySnake
Most weapons get acceptable results when infused sharp with 80 dex. In terms of boss/twinkling weapons you have frayed blade and pontiff scythe.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@TechHater
Should I just go all out Dex or Strength?

farquit
farquit

@w8t4u
Yeah

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@happy_sad
I know how level scaling works. I'm outside the PvP meta range, for fight clubs and I got summoned 3 times in a row by different hosts.
I'm neither interested or geared for PvP, unlike the reds I had to fight.

@GoogleCat
Just as annoying, at least you gave him a lesson.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Poker_Star
No, I mean the guy who summoned you is a fag who doesn't know how level scaling works, you retard

Methnerd
Methnerd

@TreeEater
How about you kill yourself, dipshit?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

What are some good weapons for pure STR + Greatshield build in ds2?

hairygrape
hairygrape

Any decent weapon to actually roll as Int?
Talking both Boss weapons, Twinkling Titanite rare Weapons, buffable Weapons and obviously Crystal Infuse tier.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Harmless_Venom

Great Club.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

TFW you are trying to use Millwood greatbow and a fellow invader keeps dragging phantoms towards you

Fucking hate this shit.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Ignoramus
Quality builds suck though. Refined is always outperformed, sometimes even at 40/40. The only weapons that are better quality are uninfusable ones, like pkcs or Gael's gs
@iluvmen
Have you forgotten a pass on maybe?

massdebater
massdebater

@Methnerd
Take your own advice, faglord

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Burnblaze
If the host and his party are already moving and there is a second invader present, you're much better off just fighting them.

The millwood bow as a tool should be used for forcing the host out of their passive mindset and shoonking people off cliffs.

Don't just take potshots when you could be killing people much more quickly up close. It's nothing to do with being poor sportsmanship, it's just shitty play.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Lunatick
@Gigastrength
Thanks anons. So replace washing pole with frayed blade when I get the dlc, replace crow talons with the scythe, put talons on left hand for parrying, and keep using crow quills?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Harmless_Venom
Greatsword or Fume
but do youself a favor and just go with quality build once you hit str cap

Lunatick
Lunatick

@King_Martha
I don't really like katanas because muh autism, but with 26 str, 80 dex, I get 547 ar on RHH two handed, and 535 on Lucerne.
It's fucking insane with Leo.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

how do I borderless fullscreen in ds3?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@TechHater
Dark Souls II is the best game in the series.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@massdebater
Fucking kill yourself, kid.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Carnalpleasure

Borderlessgaming.

askme
askme

@StrangeWizard
Have you forgotten a pass on maybe?
No. I just moved to the 2nd bonfire to avoid them.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@PackManBrainlure
Only if you kill yourself first, you gigantic sack of dicks

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Harmless_Venom
Stone ring + Large club + spamming r2 + heavy armor
You have became the poise, destroyer of pvp

Inmate
Inmate

@Ignoramus
WOw
rude!
How about I just kill myself so you two make friends?
sound good?

girlDog
girlDog

@Inmate
post pictures and sure

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Decide to make a 120 healslut co-op faith build
Start as Cleric
"eh, fuck it I'll use the mace until I get the weapon I want"
Holy shit nothing could prepare me for how good this weapon is
Rollcatch every invader and NPC
Perserverance through every mob of enemies, swinging the entire time
With every R1 my dick grows harder
the cracking of my foes skulls only serves to fuel my erection
All will fall before my endless crusade
Big boy poise through entire boss healthbars
Ceaselessly bully any humanoid enemy
Abyss Walkers, Deacons, Friede, Gravetender are all stunlocked into oblivion
Didn't even pick up the weapon I originally intended to use
It won't be this much fun

I can't believe I slept on this thing for so long

Soft_member
Soft_member

@girlDog
I give my life for you two to be frens.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Okay so I skipped bloodborne, how do I get past the shit early game weapons in DS3? Everything feels terrible.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@iluvmen
2nd part of my blog:
Succesfully escort a host through High Wall after moving to 2nd bonfire
Put my sign near the 1st bonfire at Undead Settlement
No one's summoning
After a long while I get summoned
Host is fighting a red invader
Save host from invader
Instead of getting through the area, he BC me out
You can join Way of Blue for that. Not even mad this time, next time this happens, I'm letting the invader sodomize the host.
Too many hosts treating phantoms like filth.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@hairygrape
Whatcha need user?
I can hook ya up.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Fried_Sushi

A clue mostly, the game feels completely different from the first 2 and it's fucking me silly.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Firespawn
What's your build?
What are your stats?
Whatcha going for?
Also, this game plays fucking gay, and the roll button is the key.

likme
likme

@Soft_member
I chuckled

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@whereismyname

Oh I'm just starting in high wall, Tried deprived but I learned the hard way that they nerfed CLUB so I switched to pyromancer and found out that they nerfed flames as well.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Gigastrength
Okay.
The main thing is that it plays very different.
Shields are kinda sucky compared to the others.
Just do not let yourself get hit. The enemies spam the shit outta you.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Playboyize
Well, yeah. If you get summoned by a host who is fighting an invader, you've been summoned by a faggot.

Squat on the sidelines and then clap when they die.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Gigastrength
Pyromancy is OP as fuck

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Gigastrength
Pick up a longsword and trivialise the game

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Lord_Tryzalot

So basically the same as Demons Souls, got it.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

How much does armor matter in DaS2?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Evil_kitten
Fire longsword is the shit.
Pyromancy in PvE is fucking fantastic.
In PvP, Dark damage uses Pyro stats, and it is the best too.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Does anyone have the chart for DS3 katana damage as it scales with Dex?

Also, are luck builds still good in any way? Or did they get nerfed into oblivion?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@SniperWish
Luck is hopeless.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@SniperWish
They got nerfed into oblivion. Hollow infusion was made less effective, AND bleed was utterly destroyed.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@AwesomeTucker
I guess it was too fun to be in a From game.

askme
askme

@haveahappyday
@AwesomeTucker
Oh

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@askme
It just makes Hollow infusion suck penis and Luck just redundant.

DeathDog
DeathDog

tfw going hollow IRL

5mileys
5mileys

I just got three ears on my run up the anor londo stairs, considering buying a lottery ticket

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@AwesomeTucker
How so?Bleed Buildup reduced I imagine, but what about the Hollow infusion in general? Scaling nerfed or something?

askme
askme

@DeathDog
misplaced my >tfw hollow.jpg but this will do

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@AwesomeTucker

The only way to use bleed in PvP is in invasions because you can smack somebody up with a blood infused bleed weapon and then switch to a real damage weapon with bleed auxiliary like a katana and hope for a huge R1 R1 bleed burst combo so that they die instead of rolling away and chugging

iluvmen
iluvmen

Let's talk a little bit about this.
It has come to my attention that anyone I see with this symbol next to their name has a 100% chance of being a faggot.
It was design to enable coop, to help friends play together. But that is simply never the true cause of this symbol appearing in a game.
If this symbol shows up, it is a red flag to bust out the gank spank gear, because that's what they're there for.
9 times out of 10 a phantom with this symbol has been summoned, not to help the host progress, but to gank invaders.
The other 10% of the time, it is plebs who need an over-geared friend to shepherd them through the game.
It is exceptionally rare to actually see someone with this symbol who is appropriately geared for the location they've been summoned to.
I take great pleasure in shitting all over the plebs that try to abuse this shit, because they never seem to realize that their high level gear is scaled down to dog shit because of the level bracket they've been summoned to. They expect their frayed blade with 60 dex to hit like a truck, but then suddenly become ultra defensive when they see their pitiful damage against a build that is tailored for the level bracket they were summoned to.
Stop using this shit. If you want to be boosted through the game, you are playing it wrong.
If you want to 4v1 invaders, prepare to be utterly shat upon as your descaled gear makes your attacks as limp as Anthony Burche's cock.
There are a lot of problems with DaS3's invasion mechanics, but this is one of the worst ones.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@DeathDog
I'm simply crestfallen

Nojokur
Nojokur

@TalkBomber
Yes. Bleed was killed by Carthus Rouge nerf, mainly.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@iluvmen
I accidentally went over on one of my characters, and I feel bad knowing that if I am summoned that shows up...
Fuck man...
I wanna redo him and transfer all my shit to the new one, but I don't wanna play through this shit game...

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@iluvmen
Yep. Level scaled password phantoms are the dumbest shit, but it's mostly because the downscaling is fucking lazy.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@iluvmen
kill phantom
drops 40k souls

woooooowwwwwwww

eGremlin
eGremlin

@iluvmen

prepare to be utterly shat upon as your descaled gear makes your attacks as limp as Anthony Burche's cock.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Deadlyinx
It's more useful than armor in DaS3, that's for sure. But from what I've seen of the calculations, it's far better for mitigating elemental damage than physical.

@SniperWish
It's a full spreadsheet, actually. Still incomplete though.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tfy4svIKQL8Qw3UEW06B3dI8NFgMvi1sA-F5oZC9A-w/edit?usp=sharing

@iluvmen
Someone post the webm of the Maldron cosplay guy who gets assreamed by a gank squad the second he finishes the invasion animation.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@iluvmen

I killed a passworded phantom on my SL36 invader recently and received 176K souls. What level was this guy?

One obnoxious thing I've noticed about this symbol is that 90% of the time it signals an LI spamming retard. It seems like they always have DUGs or the Farron memesword.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

/vg/thread/185757504#p185851339
Mythra, with poison

Shit fucking sucks mane

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

sinh fight would be pure kino if pine bundles were in dark souls 2

likme
likme

@Firespawn
invade in gank city with a couple thousand souls
after an hour I have 2 million souls

thanks downscaled phantoms

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Illusionz
He was level 603.

You can work it out by multiplying how many souls you got by 25, then finding the level which takes roundabout the resulting number of souls to get to the next one.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@likme
Keeps my greatarrow/green blossom supply topped off, at least.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Illusionz
RKPGS
'I wonder what button he'll press'
Does nothing but L1 spam until he dies from the constant backstabs

Farron Memesword
'I wonder what button he'll press'
Does nothing but L1 spam until he dies from being batted out of the air mid-anime like a tennis ball

It's incredible how bad these people are

Like nigger just because you backpedal for ten steps doesn't mean I'm going to suddenly turn into a retard and eat your bullshit anime attack.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Fuzzy_Logic
Friede's Great Scythe
spams the weapon art
step back and R1 combo with my Greatsword and poop on him at the end of the animation cycle
woooooooooooow

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Tips for Quelagg? I'm a 23 SL warrior (first play through) with the starting armor and a +4 Zweihandler. I've already used all my humanity and the NPC/Amy Schumer cosplayer phantom sucks asshole. The whole fight is bullshit since I'm poisoned and those mosquitoes barely drop the poison moss, and the dumb cunt one hit kills.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Supergrass

Ah, interesting. Thanks for the info.

@Fuzzy_Logic

I always pack a greathammer with perseverance or an ultra greatsword for these retards. Launching a DUGs spammer with the LKUGS stomp is immensely satisfying.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Need_TLC
Sniff her pits. Quickly back away when she pukes and farts.

You can also avoid getting poisoned by sticking to the land masses, or go up the rear exit, open the short cut to firelink, and buy moss from the merchant in that tunnel, then go back down to fight her.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Need_TLC
She should only OHKO you with her explosion attack, which is HEAVILY telegraphed.
Watch her torso: she falls limp right before her explosion.
As for poison, if you go real slow and take the right path you can avoid it, but it's not really that bad in DS1.
I hope you used one of your humanity to kindle.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Anyone else downloaded the free transitory lands ps4 theme? The soundtrack is remixed gael phase 3 theme. It's quite good.

https://youtu.be/LjsJKQQpGOY

Inmate
Inmate

@Need_TLC
Go get some of the poison cure moss, or poison yourself on purpose using dung pies because its far more manageable of a poison than toxic, and you can only be poisoned by one thing at a time

Instead of trying to beat bosses, you should learn to "dance" with them, whereas you can just run around without getting hit at all as much as you like, then easily kill the boss in the future

Evilember
Evilember

@Inmate
Toxic and poison are two different ailments.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Inmate
He's getting poisoned, not toxic.
Dung pies' toxic is still worse than poison.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Anyone want to help me get through Irithyll? Currently parked at Yorshka's bonfire.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@PackManBrainlure
Dung pies' toxic is still worse than poison.
Especially since he would be toxiced and poisoned.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@BlogWobbles
Starting up Limewire now.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@BlogWobbles
Needing phantoms

askme
askme

the person who rammed into the crowd today was a dark souls fan
F-fug

iluvmen
iluvmen

@BlogWobbles
Firing up my vibrator.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@BlogWobbles
Let me just hook up my Sega Genesis and i'll help you out

takes2long
takes2long

If you ask me, King Vendrick should have defended his kingdom by building more doorways.

farquit
farquit

@takes2long
Thanks, Matt. You sure showed them.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@askme
Based

TechHater
TechHater

@askme
those upper two pictures

Not to start political shitflinging but Jesus Christ how can you be so cringe on a space that shows off who you are publicly.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

TFW Dorkmoons keep spawning when I am trying to kill a host

Who the actual fuck needs a swarm of phantoms to play through the game lol.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@askme

Dark Souls is bad influence.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

To this day, i'm bad that Vinhelm is no longer immune to phantoms. That shit was a scrub killer on its own.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Going to fight Gargoyles soon in my Crossbow only run in Dark Souls 2, 2 Light Crossbows. Wish me luck.

massdebater
massdebater

@Playboyize

It's probably easy because you can just backpedal the entire fight.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Need_TLC

*mad

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I turned DaS1 into windowed mode, made the resolution the lowest possible as well as put on DSFix. The game still doesn't run well and I can't seem to use a Dualshock 4. Am I just fucked?
I know it's a shitty laptop. I'm poor and this needs to last me through college.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Dreamworx

Have you tried disabling the framerate lock? It will improve the performance even if you don't use it to increase the fps.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Dreamworx
Just get a cheap console lad.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@massdebater
I can't backpedal 6 Gargoyles if it turns out I can't kill them fast enough.

TechHater
TechHater

@Playboyize
If you don't attack the sleeping ones and wake them up, you just have to face two gargoyles at a time until one of them gets low, at which point you temporarily have to backpedal three of them at a time.

Emberburn
Emberburn

How should I do a Sanctum Mace build in DaS2? How early can I get it? What can I use until I get it?

Evilember
Evilember

Dude and his phantoms kills me
Invade him again
Kill his phantom and then him
He disconnects

not so tough without your phantom, are you?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Emberburn
Drops
Shulva, Sanctum City treasure. Below and behind the Tower of Prayer Bonfire on a static platform. The weapon will be on a corpse.
Sanctum Soldier drop - rare.

Pretty much all you need is to get down to the Gutter, likely by buying Silvercat Ring after Dragonrider. Kill Rotten with the Rapier from Lenigrast or Pate's Spear since he's weak to thrust damage. Then run through Shulva and grab it at the drop. It scales only off Strength so you want that for damage at 40-50, and you also want to get the Sanctum Knight Gauntlets and Crest of the Rat from the ratbros for extra poison buildup.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Anybody got the sorcery tier list available for DS3?
I have a Miracle one, but that's all I got. I dunno if this is accurate don't hate me.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Evilember
Those are the best invasions, especially if you manage to keep invading them.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Evilember
Hosts are terrified animals without phantoms, aggressive idiots with phantoms

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Emberburn
Quality build, the damage doesn't scale with Dex but the poison buildup does. You can get it fairly early if you go down the Gutter and kill the two giants in Black Gulch for the key, then go straight to Shulva and farm the soldiers there until it drops.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@RavySnake
@RavySnake
Time to reinstall DS2 again, and what should I allocate my points into? It's been a year or more since I played and the only thing I know that is a much is 20 ADP, i don't know much stamina or what the meta level is either

TechHater
TechHater

@askme
Wait so he is a trump supporter and he ran over other Trump supporters?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@happy_sad
Now I'm having second thoughts about using it with the Painting Guardian top

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Supergrass
Thanks, mate. I managed to get the FPS to ~25, or at least it seems that way. I don't know if you can get something that shows your FPS.
@Evil_kitten
I have a PS3 and the game. I just really want to get it working on PC because a friend gifted it to me quite some time ago.

I still can't seem to get the Dualshock 4 to work.

TechHater
TechHater

@Dreamworx
I don't know if you can get something that shows your FPS.

Steam has an fps counter. Steam > Settings > In-Game

Supergrass
Supergrass

pyro tier list for ds3
does it exist
can you please post it for me if you have it, thank you lads

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Emberburn
No such thing as a meta level, people would insist on sticking to SL150 and 2.5M SM but that's bullshit that only really works on quality/melee builds. Not like it matters anyway since invasions are nearly nonexistent due to SM and lack of full Red/Blue Eye Orbs.

Endurance literally soft-caps at 20, and you're forced to waste levels on it if you're using ultras and/or power-stancing. It's more important to stay at or around 50% equip load, since that affects stamina regen and roll distance.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Dreamworx
Use DS4Windows

Lunatick
Lunatick

@RumChicken
I could waste my time telling you what's good but you won't listen and will likely just listen to some retard who sucks but types more words.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Dreamworx
This is what I use:

http://ds4windows.com/

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@TechHater
No, he's a Drumpf supporter and he ran into a crowd of anti-racists. Now take this shit back to /pol/

@Dreamworx
SCP Toolkit is your friend.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Dreamworx
You need a program to register your Dualshock 4.
Or do you have one?

Firespawn
Firespawn

@RumChicken
There's no image list for sorceries/pyromancies, only two made for miracles that are very sketchy imo. In that pic alone Lightning Stake has no right to be near Lightning Arrow and, Force is shit in 1v1s, and why Seek Guidance is on there when all other non-offensive miracles are and healing miracles also aren't ranked. It's also riddled with spelling errors on the side. If I had to make a sorcery tier list though it would be:

Top Tier: Homing Soulmass with Great Farron Dart right below it
Great Tier: Soul Greatsword, Great Magic Shield, Farron Hail, Great Soul Dregs, Great Soul Arrow, Farron Dart but why would you use it over Great FD, (Great) Deep Soul, Crystal Magic Weapon
Mid Tier: Farron Flashsword, (Crystal) Soul Spear, Affinity, Snap Freeze, Pestilent Mercury, Old Moonlight, Homing Crystal Soulmass, Great Heavy Soul Arrow
Low Tier: Other variants of Soul Arrow, White Dragon Breath, Dark Edge
Bad Tier: Crystal Hail, Frozen Weapon Great Magic Weapon
YOU DIED Tier: Soul Stream, Magic Weapon, Twisted Wall of Light, every other non-offensive Sorcery

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Lunatick
?
Not n-nice, user...

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Sharpcharm
I'm not the one who posted it or know all about it.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

What's the best SM range for early bell and rat PvP? Still 300,000?

King_Martha
King_Martha

ds1 fatroll is legit easier than fastroll

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Lunatick
t.doesn't know anything but doesn't want to admit it

askme
askme

@Lunatick
See he's right on time. List sucks but you'll eat it right up. Look at all those words! He must know what he's talking about.

@Firespawn

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Raving_Cute
@Lunatick
@StrangeWizard
@Sharpcharm
I've used that for other games, but it just doesn't work for DaS.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@King_Martha
I went through half of ds1 without realising there were different roll tiers

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Lunatick
You have any clue what it's like to be exceptional great at something and people who are trash tier want to argue with you about their trash opinions?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@CouchChiller
Steam behaves kind of flukey with DS4 controllers, you may or may not have to fiddle with Big Picture mode.

askme
askme

@CouchChiller
Wait. It just started to work, but it's really messed up.

girlDog
girlDog

@Spazyfool
Are you the magic webm poster? I can tell by your sense of smugness and jackassery.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@askme
Holy Hell someone is upset for no reason...

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Dreamworx
SCP Toolkit.
I have that and it works perfectly on DS1.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Supergrass
Free Roll Catches For Days tier: Floating Chaos
Fuck Your Estus tier: Vestiges
Finish Off Roll-Spamming Faggots tier: Fire Surge
Meme On People In Invasions tier: Seething Chaos
Turn Invasions Into Counter-Ganks tier: Warmth
Fuck Your Shields tier: Black Flame
Absolutely Haram tier: Black Serpent

5mileys
5mileys

Nice. I got the DS4 to work. I just had to mess with Big Picture temporarily. However now I can't see the FPS count on the top right anymore even though I checked to see if it was still enabled. The game also seems to run just a touch slower than it was. Hopefully I can get this running at more than 15 FPS in combat scenarios.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@5mileys
DS4

Hello from the world of the past

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@DeathDog
Only if... As much as I love (read: obsess over) the series,
I'd rather not see a fourth game.

I think I managed to get the game working at a stable 25-30 FPS now, even when fighting the Asylum Demon.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Chinese players should be banned from using homing soul mass

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

host points down mid fight
kill him with a parry

feels good man

King_Martha
King_Martha

duel with Sorcery
anyone with low INT dies instantly
duel with Miracles
anyone with low FTH dies instantly

duel with Pyromancy
even STRfags take literally no damage

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

BKGS +5 only does 600 damage to Quelaag with the 2HR2
Well, it was fun two- and three-shotting bosses while it lasted. I mean, it's still impressive that I killed her in around 7 swings, but I guess the game is catching up with me now.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Playing as a shackledude is kinda fun

I kill the host's overlevelled password buttbuddy and then vanish into the night

Firespawn
Firespawn

Am I gimping myself hard if I choose to run around with no helmet in DS3?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Firespawn
Yes.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Firespawn
yes

try pyromancy crown (sold by cornyx), it's quite hard to see when equipped

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Evilember
probably like monster hunter frontier with invasions

i don't see how they can possibly turn DS into an MMO while keeping that same feeling you get from the og games

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@RumChicken
too bad he'll just summon him again afterwards

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Ignoramus
Why would I care about that?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@PurpleCharger
tfw first time going to irithyll
trash ass pontiff knights keep fucking you up with their fast, long combos with stupid reach

what a terrible mob

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Ignoramus
because if you don't kill the host, you didn't stop anybody. its way more gratifying to kill a host, then to kill one phantom and leave.

Evilember
Evilember

@Ignoramus
Because the proper job of any invader is to either kill the host, or make him want to kill himself. If all you do is temporarily inconvenience the host and his buttbuddy, then you have failed in your duty.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Doing new DS3 run.

Haven't done a faith or pyro build yet.

Which should I go?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Carnalpleasure
Pyro for the sick dark sorceries. Dark is very good.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@hairygrape
@Evilember
By golly, you're right

What the hell was I thinking

girlDog
girlDog

@Evil_kitten
No, you idiot. That's the point of a shacklebro.

Kill whoever the fuck you want.
If you want to kill the host, kill the host.
If you want to kill the sunbro, kill the sunbro.
If you wanna kill the white, blue, or red, fucking kill them.
Who cares, they all end up on the pile anyway.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@girlDog
its also the bitch pussy way to invade. faithful are less pussy then shackles and they're gankers.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Lone host
Starts backpedalling as soon as he sees me
R1
Rollcatch R1
Rollcatch R1
They are now against a wall
They roll again
They die

Ten seconds, give or take.

That wasn't particularly fun. I don't take much joy in killing people who obviously have no idea how to play the game and are trying to do it solo anyway.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Methnerd
You think he wouldn't have ganked you if he had the chance? You think he wasn't just waiting for a blue or three?

Hosts are disgusting. Kill them all.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Soft_member
SOUNDS LIKE A MAN WHO'S ONLY GOT 32 VERTEBRAE TO ME

Emberfire
Emberfire

Post fist build

Lunatick
Lunatick

Host and phantom doing tricky shit
Host goes down the lift, phantom hides behind the door. I see it, but pretend that I didn't because I can survive a plunge attack
He waits too long and dies on impact while the host gets turned into pasta sauce by a dagger in close quarters

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Carnalpleasure
Faith build:
have shit for offensive potential throughout the vast majority of your playthrough
there are literally only three or four good weapons for your build, most of which are locked behind end-game areas
can't actually redeem your Sunbro Medals until the late game
one of the more useful tomes with great early-game Miracles is locked behind a late-game boss and inside a late-game area
two of the three remaining tomes that you get in the early- to mid-game are worthless until you find a late-game NPC, and most of the Miracles you get from those tomes are worthless anyways
the one good offensive Miracle you get in the mid-game requires far more Faith than you'll have at that point in the game
have precisely zero good ranged options until you reach the mid-game, and the Miracle you get then is only good against certain bosses
you don't get any actual weapon buffs until the mid-game, and one of those is locked behind a broken covenant
it requires getting the most broken weapon and spell in the entire game, both of which are locked behind the very end of the game, for your build to finally be "okay"
and your only other useful ranged option is locked behind the final fucking boss of the game

Pyro build:
plenty of enemies are weak to fire in the early game
you get a good Pyromancy teacher and several good Pyromancies in the early game
having good amounts of both Int and Fai allow you to gain full access to elemental infused weapons, as well as unique weapons intended for dedicated Int and Fai builds
you also have access to many powerful utility Sorceries and Miracles
numerous weapons that are built for Pyros, several of which are available in mid-game areas
everything gets even better once you gain access to the DLC goodies, and loads of these are even weapons that you can obtain much earlier via muling

There is zero contest.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Sharpcharm
Faith isn't that bad solely because you can get Gnaw/Dorhys' Gnawing around the 1/4th point of the game which trivializes almost every boss, plus healing miracles.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I don't know what it is about the Black Knight weapons, but they're very hard to resist using.

Methnerd
Methnerd

What would be the best weapon to use for a cloud strife cosplay?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Host with borthammer
Poison him and then roll around him until he dies

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Spazyfool
The rotton ghru dagger is god's gift to invaders

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Give me your funnest low or mid SL invasion builds. I'm invading at "meta" level and not finding jack shit outside of ganksquad hotspots.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Nojokur
Standing back and spamming Dorhys' Gnawing at Dancer and Nameless Kang is not my idea of fun.

@haveahappyday
Invest in 22 Str 18 Dex
Clear Darkroot, Catacombs and Undead Asylum
Invest all of your Twinkling into your BKGS to get it to +5
Watch as Capra melts in two hits, Gaping Dragon and Pinwheel in three, and Quelaag in seven.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Sharpcharm
What weapons do you recommend to go for as a pyro?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

What's a better offhand weapon for the Greatsword, Longsword or Estoc?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@StonedTime
Standing back and spamming Dorhys' Gnawing at Dancer and Nameless Kang is not my idea of fun.

Good thing fun wasn't a part of the initial question at all, and pyro is literally standing back and spamming GCGO/Vestiges at every other boss too, same basic principle.

@Booteefool
Pretty much everything Dark/Chaos infused works great but you only get that in the mid-late game. If you want a good early option I recommend going to Ariandel after Vordt and running through it to kill Vilhelm for the Onyx Blade. That will easily serve you well for the whole game.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@PurpleCharger
I don't own the DLC yet, so I'll just grab a placeholder until I can get a dark/chaos gem. Cheers.

farquit
farquit

@SomethingNew
What system?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@farquit
PC.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Playboyize
You can just CE it, or one of the lovely Anons here can give ya one.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Spazyfool
Poisoned
Can't back off to drink estus or eat moss
Even if you get the sip, two R1s will instantly remove it and a little bit more
Your swings can be reaction rolled with 100% accuracy

This is why great weapons will never work against an invader in a 1v1 scenario. Once you get put into that position, you literally cannot win.

The hidden tech is perseverance estus to full and then inventory switch in a weapon which can actually kill something. Then you might win.

farquit
farquit

@AwesomeTucker
Estoc has slightly faster attacks and makes for good rollcatching, but the longsword hits in a wider arc.

Depends what you're using it for. As an invader, those wide arcs are amazing for turnburning faggots who are trying to flank you.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Emberburn
encouraging CE
That should only ever be a last resort for something that can't be solved via trading. Especially since the threat of a soft-ban is always present.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Firespawn
There is literally no risk of soft ban for item swapping to get any weapon aside from Storm Ruler.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Firespawn
I've been using CE for months without so much as a single flag

If you're just swapping in weapons and doing it offline in the high wall, it's perfectly safe outside of maybe covenant rewards.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Carnalpleasure
What's so special about Storm Ruler?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Spamalot
It's considered a key item that can't be dropped or traded. Presumably, to prevent people from just walking into Yhorm's fight with a charged Storm Ruler and whacking the shit out of him (not that forcing them to take the 10 seconds to run to the back of his arena to grab it and equip it is any different).

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Spamalot
It can't be traded and is classed as an important item

Anything that can be drop traded is fine.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@haveahappyday
because they're high base damage means they give huge benefits early game
no need for embers
too bad the r2s all suck ass

gravelord is dope too

MPmaster
MPmaster

Guy starts to lose
Switches to a SS

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Ignoramus
That's because metal level is purely for gank squads and duelfaggotry. Take your shit to TRC and you might see less gank squads.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@MPmaster
The first goal is to have fun.
Failing this, the second goal is to win.

Techpill
Techpill

@MPmaster
Congrats, you got to his second phase.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Burnblaze
I dunno, I'd rather lose while using my weapon of choice, than to be a faggot who switches to a quickstep dagger or some shit. Then again, I don't partake in duelfaggotry so my definition of "winning" isn't exactly the same as that of others.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@happy_sad
Take your shit to TRC and you might see less gank squads.
He'll still see almost nothing but gank squads, he'll just have a decent battle ground to use against them.
Well, sort of. The enemies are still super useless against ganks.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Techpill
@Burnblaze
Second phase is just parry spam

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@MPmaster
If you can get somebody to switch weapon, chances are you've already won because they're not confident in their ability to beat you with technical skill and so are going to start relying on numbers.

The exception is if they usually use an SS but were trying something else and felt like they were doing poorly with it, or if the SS was equipped in a different slot already.

Generally, though, if I see an inventory weapon switch, it might as well be all she wrote.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Why not just process PvP interactions server-side? People with passable internet should have the advantage over third-worlders.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Emberfire
Because netcode is hard and From are hacks

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Emberfire
That would require From to maintain server farms for processing that shit. Which increases costs.

Although, I would not be against that sort of stuff it it means no more using Collector's Edition to do more than create builds.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@SniperWish
Pontiff K***hts are much easier to deal with once you realize that they have atrophied neck muscles and precisely zero peripheral vision.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Who the fuck is Forlorn and what the fuck is his problem?

askme
askme

@LuckyDusty
They're a new class of invader that came with SotFS. Kill them four times and get a prize.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@LuckyDusty
The Forlorn are Aldia's goons.

Methshot
Methshot

Anyone ever done pvp on a lan connection? Ive heard tales of its glorious lack of phantom range and lag.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Poker_Star
Actually according to the item descriptions they're called "Forlorn" because Aldia's experiments destroyed their homes and their bodies, so they literally only exist as invading phantoms.

Methshot
Methshot

@Methshot
Apparently backsteps are also useful, according to these tales.

Bidwell
Bidwell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_8t5ay0-YU
Please tell me that I'm not the only one who thinks that this song sounds like it would fit right in.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@BlogWobbles
Y'know, why does Solaire have all the fandom? Where's the Hodrick worship?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Bidwell
I'm still annoyed by the growls in the song itself.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Dreamworx
Only DaS1 characters get any meme worship because casuals think that the first game is the only one that matters. That, and they never play online and/or Embered, and thus miss out on his invasion and/or summon sign.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Spazyfool
He's resistant against Lightning though. And nobody would use Pine Bundles in the game where buying consumables fucks over your matchmaking.

TreeEater
TreeEater

New
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whereismyname
whereismyname

@Techpill
this tier list is so incorrect lmao, why is estoc top tier and ir high tier and uchi/blacksteel high tier and not top? the shitter that made this needs to die

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@TurtleCat
Because spells in DS2 are all basically about the same power regardless of your INT, so as you make an INT playthrough, you are constantly "trading up" to better spells with new effects, making it feel really satisfying when you actually start using something new. That, and those powerful nuke spells had only a few casts, so there was more occassion to using them.

But in DS3 the spell you use doesn't matter as much as your INT stat and your rings, so you start off with magic being useless and by the time it can actually do some damage you are just using the same few spells over and over again. Having FP (which was better for combat) was worse for progression because it took away all the resource management aspect of trying to be careful not to use your nukes, since you now could have enough nukes to kill anything you want as long as you gave up estus.

And in DS1, all the "fun" spells (anything that isn't a soul arrow or weapon buff) are endgame and only accessible if you're doing a pure-int playthrough.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Sharpcharm
Drumpf
"anti-racists"
So im other words some Antifa faggots. I hope a lot of them died.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Dreamworx
muh pvp

TechHater
TechHater

@Dreamworx
lower the render resolution with dsfix

use ds4windows for your controller

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Carnalpleasure
doesn't matter
you still gonna use straight sword / greatsword for 80% of the game

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