/fgoalter/ - Fate/Grand Order NA General

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

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[News, Events & Campaigns]
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"Does Moon Goddess Dream of Dumplings?"
Period: August 17, 2017 (Thu) 7:00 ~ August 24, 2017 (Thu) 3:59 UTC
"Otakon 2017" Special Campaign
Period: August 11, 2017 (Fri) 4:00 ~ August 13, 2017 (Sun) 3:59 UTC
Total login rewards: 1m QP, 3* All ATK Fou x1, 3* All HP Fou x1, 4* All EXP x1 and up to 3 Summon Tickets
"Orleans Pickup Summon"
Period: August 08, 2017 (Tue) 7:00 ~ August 17, 2017 (Thu) 3:59 UTC
Servants on rate-up: Jeanne d'Arc, Siegfried, Chevalier d'Eon, Gilles de Rais (Saber) & Kiyohime

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[Miscellaneous stuff]
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BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I want Carmilla to use my spunk to rejuvenate her skin!

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

/vg/thread/185826593#p185862898
dealing with the loli snakes

Thats what
Angry JETS noises

is for, dummy.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Got 122 quartz and 2(two) tickets. Am I gonna make it?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@BinaryMan
LIZ THREAD

viagrandad
viagrandad

Cutest waifu!

takes2long
takes2long

SAY
MY
NAME

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

post banana

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Saegusa Yukika (servant when?!)

WebTool
WebTool

cute witch route when?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@takes2long
reddit

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Fuzzy_Logic
Depends on which banner you're saving for.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@viagrandad
enjoy your tuberculosis faggot

iluvmen
iluvmen

@WebTool
Medea a cute

Skullbone
Skullbone

Witches don't exist

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

TWO or more servant classes drop a golden treasure box
ONE of them is important to me for monuments, I don't care about the other class
the one I need is acually just dust, the other ones are monuments
When will this end?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

best girl

eGremlin
eGremlin

/vg/thread/185826593#p185863075
tfw 20cm taller than medusa

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Harmless_Venom
LIZ THREAD

likme
likme

@iluvmen
the cutest witch

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@whereismyname
@Harmless_Venom
@BinaryMan
I love my Lizard!

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

someone already has a level 100 Herc

takes2long
takes2long

@eGremlin
I'm taller than Medusa myself, it's just a nice joke to make
The elder and middle sisters are prettier anyway

FastChef
FastChef

@Sir_Gallonhead
Is that surprising?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

cutest kouhai!

Emberfire
Emberfire

Not sure if I should stick with my boy Robin, or try for Orion.
Whose the next Archer after Orion?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

/vg/thread/185826593#p185857653
4* aren't relevant to me though, budget means I'm using 3* and under.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

How do I steal others peoples luck?

girlDog
girlDog

@Sir_Gallonhead
No they don't.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Sir_Gallonhead
need 7 grails
you can only get 3

Evilember
Evilember

@FastChef
Have you considered there's not enough grails for that in the game yet ?

RavySnake
RavySnake

4 times in a row
LIZ NEEDS TO FUCK OFF

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Hey NA, nice game you got there
Would be a shame if someone gave you an event.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Harmless_Venom
http://www.wikihow.com/Be-Lucky

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Harmless_Venom
just get an ex rank lucker to pull for you

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Sir_Gallonhead
you mean 90 right? 100 is a waste

@DeathDog
jannu
virgin
she was used goods even before sieg came to existance

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Emberfire
Nobu in guda guda event i think and she is free

Techpill
Techpill

@iluvmen
Best witch.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@lostmypassword
I wish Garcher would fucking violate me. Why can't I feel him inside of me? This world is so cruel.
I just want to be his cocksleeve.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@DeathDog
delet this
medb is pure

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Techpill
I want to fully ascend her so bad

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Harmless_Venom
post their waifus with fat old bald guys

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@lostmypassword
No, post grape.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Emberfire
robin is good for single target, specially if you meme him right, and you get a free aoe hands farmer with nobu

Snarelure
Snarelure

@RavySnake
More Liz?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@WebTool
Source?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@AwesomeTucker
Shuten Douji's haircut is the best in the world

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Snarelure
Less Liz.

FastChef
FastChef

@GoogleCat
she's an anime version of her VA

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@SomethingNew
The real reason I play Fate:GO

Evilember
Evilember

The priest has blessed me!

Flameblow
Flameblow

@FastChef
yes indeed

some things don't even have to be anime

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Evilember
not 3 of each key
Roll again.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@King_Martha
just one more demon heart and then three more demon heartsand then i can start grailing

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Evilember
Watch your back user

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

So is this guy good if i don't have a decent Lancer ?

idontknow
idontknow

@AwesomeTucker
P O S T B A N A N A

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@King_Martha
I want too, but Gil ate the hearts and Vlad took the pages.

Evilember
Evilember

@Ignoramus
Jean has medical and court proof that she was indeed a virgin

The brits wanted to try her as a witch and the question of if she was a virgin was needed for that, since she was a virgin they just burned her for wearing mens clothes, even though it was the only clothing she had available while imprisoned

girlDog
girlDog

tfw I fell for the Jeanne meme and now I'm stuck with THIS

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Yoroshounen Kobe!

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Here is what you need against Orion

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@GoogleCat
there are better ones out there

Emberburn
Emberburn

@girlDog
not level 90
What a shitter

Supergrass
Supergrass

Fluffy Servant

5mileys
5mileys

/vg/thread/185826593#p185828525
One bajillion years in paint.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Ignoramus
Found the Briton

girlDog
girlDog

@WebTool
Medea gets summoned by Shirou
She can't block Cu's attack
Shirou dies
She dies
better than the fate route desu

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Supergrass
Stop making me like Medb.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@LuckyDusty
I don't remember from what doujin I go these user, but here is another page of it

StonedTime
StonedTime

@5mileys
I want a nursing handjob from mommy Boudica.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@GoogleCat
Can we get strengthening quests already? Without NP gain he's just asking to die twice.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Supergrass
tnavreS yffulF

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Post your waifu doing the pose

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Carnalpleasure
I wish I had Sherlock Holmes...

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Would anyone like to be friends with an Alterabro
Still have space on friends list
107,419,378

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@BinaryMan
bdeM ekil em gnikam potS

likme
likme

@5mileys
I want Astolfo desu

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@SniperWish
post more ant medb

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

That jacket, could it be?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@AwesomeTucker
tfw no waifu

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@SniperWish
Paint did not like ant Medb

girlDog
girlDog

@BunnyJinx
Too big.

5mileys
5mileys

When's the next event where I can get more golem crystals and claws of chaos?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Burnblaze
tfw she's the KANGs now.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@5mileys
Whose the one before Jeanne?

hairygrape
hairygrape

Save all your quartz for Medb!

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Fried_Sushi
Fou is tiny

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Evilember
not him but you really expect me to believe it and not that is all made up bullshit?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Raving_Cute
sent, I'm the one with Jeanne

Bidwell
Bidwell

@w8t4u
Nobu

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Garbage Can Lid
Is there anything he can't do?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Is it worth rolling Scatgacha for some 2030 CEs if I hope to get a Quetza at some point in the future?

I'd sure love a teacher lancer, but I need to be realistic with my expectations.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@w8t4u
nobu

Evilember
Evilember

@hairygrape
How is she as a unit?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

EMIYA (Archer)
EMIYA (Assassin)
Illya
Kuro
Irisviel
Family's together again.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Burnblaze
Bros, what happened!

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@LuckyDusty
256,993,953 for anyone who wants that sweet 2000% NP multiplier on Caesar

whereismyname
whereismyname

Here is what you need against Orion

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Lord_Tryzalot

History is all made up bullshit. The winner writes it after all. The real question is does what really happened actually matter at all if its just overwritten?

takes2long
takes2long

@GoogleCat
Nope, wait for Jalter or be a fool.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

OKEANOS when?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Evilember
Great if you surround her with males and let her fight against males.

Mediocre in every other situation.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@TalkBomber
Survive turn 1 if you didn't put evade/invince on him.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@whereismyname
Here is what you need against Orion

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@hairygrape
She's probably gonna spook me in Illya's banner.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@whereismyname
yeah but I want to beat her in less than 20 turns

viagrandad
viagrandad

@whereismyname
Too weak. Orion has 259k HP. She'll outlast your tank since you barely do damage to her.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@GoogleCat
That picture pisses me off.

TechHater
TechHater

@CodeBuns
Don't have Cu but have a level 60 liz, will that do?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Burnblaze
For the last time it isn't Gil's.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@TechHater
it might be enough. Still risky since Orion can cast evade on herself at times and then she can also buff her attack/defense every turn like nero.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Here is what you need against Orion

SniperGod
SniperGod

@viagrandad
She'll outlast your tank since you barely do damage to her.
No way, Orion can't heal.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Here is what you need against Orion

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Boy_vs_Girl
I also have a level 90 Gil, will that help enough?

idontknow
idontknow

@Burnblaze
Yes King Cuck loves sniffing AUO's jacket after a good pounding.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@SniperGod
No way, Orion can't heal.

But she can evade like Cu.

Skullbone
Skullbone

I like this new spicy "Here is what you need again Orion" meme

RavySnake
RavySnake

I swear to god if I roll 2nd paid gacha on rider and get Medb, I'm instaburning.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Nojokur
Nobody needs a LVL90 Waver at the moment
LVL80 is just as good.

Methshot
Methshot

@Supergrass
t. lvl 80 waver cuckboi

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Oi, user! Get over here and join us!

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Nude_Bikergirl
B-but it looks just like his jacket! What else am I supposed to think?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Nojokur
Where the fuck did you get feathers boy?

farquit
farquit

@Nojokur
fully ascending a servant with the S curve
you're bad at managing rescoursces

Emberfire
Emberfire

@RavySnake
Would rather get Medb than the pirate slut

Atleast Medb has a good design

RumChicken
RumChicken

Holy fuck, did Leff really order the soldiers to pursue Lu Bu? What the fuck were they smoking.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@PackManBrainlure
who let the dogs out?

askme
askme

@DeathDog
that takeuchi's creativity is dying

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@whereismyname
Here is what you really need against Orion

SniperWish
SniperWish

All the poo in loos that play FGO as shown in the FB like campaign for Orion
Is it because of all the Indian servants they keep putting in and wanking?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

are there any servants with an army?
zombies or robots preferably

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@RumChicken
he's a shitty pilar and dies like a shitter that only managed to ruse some mages when we all know non protagonist modern mages are retarded

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Nude_Bikergirl
You're going to have to admit you got cucked someday.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@askme
Why would Takeuchi give her his jacket? What did he mean by this?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@JunkTop
Great if you surround her with males

That can be done. Most of my favorite servants are male.

idontknow
idontknow

THIS is what you really need against Orion.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Here's your 1 year supply of dragon tooth

Supergrass
Supergrass

@farquit
Who else are you gonna use those mats on retard

MPmaster
MPmaster

Everything works against Orion.

Well. Except Saibah.
She is just shit.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Can't wait to rake in the FP with a level 90 Liz during Dangos

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Sharpcharm
Saber has been Shirou's since day one. The jacket just obviously isn't Gil's.

5mileys
5mileys

@SniperWish
NA migh as well be called global

cum2soon
cum2soon

Anyone got an updated Nip tier list? I want to know if Nero Caster will be worth whaling for.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@MPmaster
Jeanne De'Arc

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@cum2soon
She is 5.0

Her stats are shit because she is a buster mage and mages overall have the worst stats being a support heavy class.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@BinaryMan
Fuck Liz, bitch refuses to drop monuments for me.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@MPmaster
orion goes with altria till she gets her buff, and that will take time and both should be C

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@iluvmen
not Jedarc

viagrandad
viagrandad

@farquit
not maxing your favourites as much as you can

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Evilember
Not especially, I'm just leveling a lot of trash for fun.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@VisualMaster
Good enough. The twintails add at at least 2.5.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@happy_sad
BUT user THE BLACK JACKET THE WHITE STRIPES! THE SIGNS ARE ALL THERE

Skullbone
Skullbone

@cum2soon
offensive caster with the 0.9 modifier
that shit never worked, they need to stop trying, roll for her only if you like nero

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Spazyfool
She loses the twintails in her later ascensions.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Evil_kitten
Darius III, he summons his immortals but they come as undead because they're not actually immortal.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Lu Bu or Asterios for budget Berserker?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@idontknow

I do not miss Takeuchi's "shoulders should be wide enough to support an extra head" phase.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Supergrass
gears
redman
plumes
Cu

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Evil_kitten
off the top of my head, currently just darius for na release.
DUDE and caster gil do as well but they don't come out for a while

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Lord_Tryzalot
The length and frills too, am I right?

girlDog
girlDog

Who has the best saberface and why is it Jannu?

likme
likme

@StonedTime
you mean the 2nd one right? good twintails a shit

TechHater
TechHater

@Emberfire
True, I'd rather get Quetza or Ozzy, but at least pirate slut has utility.
Medb is an unlikable, spiteful bitch who gets her subjects killed over her desire to steal a fucking bull.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@SniperGod
What if you don't have redman
Cu
no real need for him right now

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Carnalpleasure
Don't worry.
He still can't draw.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@StrangeWizard
anyone else? he looks fucking stupid

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@MPmaster
Altera
A
Lol

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@TechHater
but I love Medb

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Fuzzy_Logic
nice ogre hand

idontknow
idontknow

@Need_TLC
Arturia is much shorter than gil and that's a zipper. WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@girlDog
okita, retard son, titturia and X are better than both jannus

StonedTime
StonedTime

@PackManBrainlure

Why on earth did they make all three Cu Chulainns 3*...?

Having Cu Caster and Prototype be 3* and having F/SN Cu as a 4* would have made wayyyyy more sense.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@StonedTime
Because he's shit

RumChicken
RumChicken

@StonedTime
But FSN Cu is a 4*

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Fuzzy_Logic
what the fuck happened
he got wormed, never trust purple sluts

girlDog
girlDog

@StonedTime
Probably because there was too much 4* already, alas.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@idontknow
zipper
No, I'm talking about the frills. This lack of observation is exactly why some people think it's Gil's. Not to mention the line design isn't the same on the chest and wrists.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@StonedTime
everyone says how OP the FSN servants are compared to average holy grail wars

most of them are low star

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@StonedTime
its ok user

you can make them 4* yourself

Nojokur
Nojokur

@StonedTime
alter is 5*, medb wet dreams are strong, and I rather be able to get an np5 dog and grail him to 90 that only get 1-2 copies because lol 4*

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

when do you think we'll get gudaguda or scat?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Spamalot
user you haven't explained what it means. Why does she wear the jacket?

farquit
farquit

@Garbage Can Lid
well so far we are following events in order so gudaguda between halloween and christmas

w8t4u
w8t4u

@RavySnake
subs when?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Evil_kitten
Avicebron

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

What have heroic spirits done for humanity? It seems they only work when they are forced to by being summoned as servants from the grail and even servants are just incomplete clones of them so it is the clones working while they party in Valhalla.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@RavySnake
apo event out after the anime ends
they only give fangs
I wanted to max X anyways

w8t4u
w8t4u

@TreeEater
See @askme

Also obviously he was trying to draw Saber in a F/Z style but ended up with a re-designed Gil jacket for female/beach wear.

farquit
farquit

drop rates are such shit in this game.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@w8t4u
This conspiracy goes deeper than I thought. Further investigation is required to come to a conclusion.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@w8t4u
It's not even a Gil jacket. It's typical slav attire.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

God-tier attack buff for all your characters
Even stronger if they all are female
God tier debuff so that you can kill your enemies faster
Pretty hard to kill because the last skill gives her ample survability
Why is Liz so god-tier?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@SomethingNew
Decide to look on his wikipedia page
One source credits Ibn Gabirol with creating a golem,[2] possibly female, for household chores.[3]
/ourguy/

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@AwesomeTucker
not female(male)
not /ourguy/

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

What class would he be?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@haveahappyday
Assassin

RavySnake
RavySnake

@AwesomeTucker
He's even a literally who who no one knows about and no one cares about!

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Carnalpleasure
black
white stripes
There's only one person in the word who has had a jacket like that before, none others like it exist. Hmmmm

FastChef
FastChef

FATE/ZERO
Arturia = 5 Star
Gilgamesh = 5 Star
Iskander = 5 Star
Lancelot = 4 Star
Diarmund = 3 Star
Gilles = 3 Star
Hassan of the Hundred Faces = 3 Star

Average Starlevel = 4

FATE/SN
Arturia = 5 Star
EMIYA = 4 Star
Herc = 4 Star
Cu = 3 Star
Medea = 3 Star
Medusa = 3 Star
Hassan = 2 Star

Average Starlevel = 3,4

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@haveahappyday
assassin/berserker, maybe even caster with exploding punches

happy_sad
happy_sad

@haveahappyday
Rider.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@RavySnake
And a misanthrope to boot ! Avicebron Servant when ?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@FastChef
forgetting REGEND

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@FastChef
Herc not being a secret 5*
Cu not being a secret 4*

RavySnake
RavySnake

Why did they made her with a so fucked up story that it was enough to downgrade all routes just because you know her existence?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Stupidasole
Shitty ghosts don't count.
If anything it would pull FSN even more down.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Emberburn
During the Apocrypha event.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Fried_Sushi
it's another Chinese assassin/berserker episode
Though I can't see him as anything else. Maybe nunchucks as Lancer like they did with Li Shuwen?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@RavySnake
Hey, at least after UBW Shinji stops raping her!

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Fried_Sushi
one inch punch nukes the entire area
I'd pay to see that animated.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@FastChef
technically... Gilgamesh is also in Fate/SN...

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@FastChef
outside of gil (wich participte in both) all of zero servants are shit on their tier list, berserkerlot is good
hec/hassan are top tier, EMIYA is good, the rest are meh
fsn lineup is better

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@RavySnake
What happens to her in Fate and UBW anyway? Zouken isnt dead in either rute if I remember correctly

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@RavySnake
What did he mean by this?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

When are we getting SABER REGEND?

Assassin isn't the class for him.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@FastChef

F/Z is crazy inflated. Caster Gilles is a 2* at best, maybe even a 1*. Same with Hundred-Face Hassan.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@PurpleCharger
We don't know.

The only thing we know happens after Fate and HF is that Rin and Waves come back to Fuyuki to dismantle the Grail and the Mage Association opposes them and it becomes a HGW-tier clusterfuck. It's a safe to assume that Zouken is very opposed to that and tries to stop them somehow so he surely tried to use Sakura somehow during that.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@PurpleCharger
In every timeline Waver dismantles the Greater Grail and it doesn't happen without a fight, so Zouken probably uses her to defend it.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Spazyfool
Gilgamesh follows his own rules and ways

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Raving_Cute
I'm in love with Hakuno Kishinami

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Stupidasole
We get boring tsukkomi Hakuno instead of fun smug and snarky Hakunon in the Extra anime
It's not fair bros

massdebater
massdebater

@Raving_Cute
you'll never play CCC
Shit sucks

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Stupidasole
Gil route in Extra CCC ends with Gil taking her away from the Mooncell because he wants her for himself

You will never explore golden space cities with Gil

@ZeroReborn
Watch the second Extra anime PV
Male and Female MC are in.

RavySnake
RavySnake

I'm gonna start writing fanfiction /fgoa/

I'll start with a futa Mash story I suppose

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Skullbone
Why is that such a problem? Can't they just print a caster with 10% higher ATK than other comparable DPS? Maybe make it 15% to compensate for CEs too

girlDog
girlDog

@massdebater
At least they finally brought FGO to global even if we're 2 years behind. Still trying to find the Chinese schedule to see how they were able to speed up the content.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@SniperGod
Watch the second Extra anime PV
Male and Female MC are in.
We already know Hakunon and Redman will only appear on the last round fighting Hakuno and Nero. She won't be appearing for more than 2 episodes at most.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Stupidasole
I want to be FeMC and have redman and Goldman fight over me

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@SniperGod
using shitrou

emiya isn't even good after strengthening, what the fuck do you need him for before that?

It's a 3 turn buster meta farm for a long time.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@massdebater
Reminded that in all the years you've been waiting for a CCC translation you'd have already learned Japanese.

5mileys
5mileys

start playing after nerofest
months until the ascension mats from the event shop appear again

Supergrass
Supergrass

@5mileys
saber monuments never ever

Booteefool
Booteefool

@girlDog
China server is moving at roughly 2x speed compared to JP. They'll never be caught up at this rate but the gap is shrinking

5mileys
5mileys

@Supergrass
haloween

Methshot
Methshot

which porn artist do you want to see draw for F/GO next?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

One Week of Nothing
Dango Hell
One more Week of Nothing after Dango Hell
FSN Rateup Fillerbanner for 2 weeks
One Week of Nothing again
Halloween maybe

You know it will happen

Spamalot
Spamalot

@RavySnake

Because that was the point. Shirou's ideal is beautiful, and it's easy to become entranced with it just as he did.

But it does require him to sacrifice the woman he loves for the sake of a math equation (1 life < 2 lives) and will ultimately destroy him just as it did Kiritsugu.

It's amazing to me how many people still say "MIND OF STEEL BEST END" after Fate/Zero showed just how terrible and self-destructive the Mind of Steel was.

If nothing else, you'd think the fact that Smiles J. Priestman endorses the Mind of Steel ending would make people think twice. He's giddy as shit to watch Shirou kill himself the way Kiritsugu did. For Kotomine, it's like going back and watching the porno that gave you your first boner.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Booteefool
moving at 2x speed
never be caught up
gap is shrinking
Can you try again? I'm confused.

Methshot
Methshot

@SniperGod
Isn't this the fan made NA schedule?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Methshot
Takashi Takeuchi

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Supergrass
They're appearing in dango, aren't they? I need forbidden pages and gears which is going to be a while

Methnerd
Methnerd

@SniperGod
This is already wrong

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Sir_Gallonhead
September-Okeanos
October-Halloween
November-GUDA
December-London/Christmas

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Sir_Gallonhead
I'm okay with one week of nothing. Gives me time to farm stuff so I don't know why people are complaining. You will never have enough QP and Mats

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Spamalot
It's amazing to me how many people still say "MIND OF STEEL BEST END" after Fate/Zero showed just how terrible and self-destructive the Mind of Steel was.

The best part is that they 100% believe that Shirou ends up winning the war. Without a Servant. Without learning how to Project. With no allies. With Rin and Illya hating him.

But what else can you expect from Zerotards?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@BinaryMan
where the fuck do I get dragon fangs

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Deadlyinx
You gain less and less ground every time you divide by two, it's going be over 4 years before China gets within a month from JP at the current rate

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Playboyize
sell your soul to fuyuki dark gods

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Sir_Gallonhead
You're forgetting Kintoki rateup banner. That's very important. I need to whale, or save quartz. One of the two.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Sir_Gallonhead
FSN Rateup Fillerbanner for 2 weeks

I actually want this, which means it won't happen.

hairygrape
hairygrape

WHERE IS THE STRONGEST KNIGHT OF THE ROUND TABLE AS FORETOLD BY MERLIN? WHERE IS THE KNIGHT OF THE TWO SWORDS? DRAWER OF THE VIRTUOUS BLADE?

SLAYER OF THE KNIGHT AND DAMSEL ON THE SITE OF LANCELOT AND TRISTAM'S DUEL?

CAPTURER OF KING RIENCE. HE WHO SMOTE THE DOLORIOUS STRIKE AND LAID WASTE TO THE FISHER KING?

THE GREATEST KNIGHT WHO NEVER JOINED THE ROUND TABLE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST KNIGHT TO ENTER THE THRONE OF HEROES.

WHERE IS SIR BALIN?

Firespawn
Firespawn

Does anyone have accounts to spare?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Sir_Gallonhead
It's like they're desperate to make NA a failure more than it already is, fucking put it to rest already.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Soft_member
Cause we got over 2 weeks of nothing, the drop rates suck, and there's nothing to spend qp on?

massdebater
massdebater

@Nojokur
Hakuno switches gender and VA depending on the scene
the Extranime turns out to be great

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Spamalot
It's amazing to me how many people still say "MIND OF STEEL BEST END" after Fate/Zero showed just how terrible and self-destructive the Mind of Steel was.
Are you sure they're not just memeing?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

This is my wife Tamamo. Say something nice about her!

Nojokur
Nojokur

@lostmypassword
How new you are that you've not seen all those MoSfags through the years?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

:^)

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@New_Cliche
I want to brush her tail.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@New_Cliche
She was a whore

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Spamalot
It's the best end because Sakura gets what she deserves

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@massdebater
That would actually be pretty neat. Too bad it'll never happen.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Raving_Cute
I think my memory is way too shitty to ever be able to master kanji. I will never understand how other people always remember the exact plot of every series or movie they watched years ago, I always struggle just remembering the names when there are more than 4 characters. Understanding spoken Japanese is something I could improve, but remembering 1000+ kanji? No chance.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@lostmypassword
OH YOU WANTED MONUMENTS?
FUCK YOU
HAVE MORE SILVER CHEST

happy_sad
happy_sad

@lostmypassword
I think it was just edgy Zerotards who read the VN after watching F/Z

Inmate
Inmate

@Nojokur
I've been on Veeky Forums since 2012, just haven't seen or read much of Fate.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

almost there lads

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@SomethingNew
2 weeks of nothing
I explained why it's good
drop rates suck
So? You aren't supposed to get everything in one day.
nothing to spend QP on
Hahahahahahahh

Lunatick
Lunatick

Tokugawa Ieyasu when

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Inmate
just haven't seen or read much of Fate.
Then why are you voicing your opinion on a topic you've just admitted have not much knowledge about?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@lostmypassword
There should be a way to trade void dust for monuments.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@lostmypassword
sumanai
would have been impressed if those were monuments, but everyone has pieces they can't spend on anything because lack of mats or they already have all the 2nd ascension

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Lunatick
that haircut

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@BunnyJinx
Is it Rome? Because I do think it's Rome.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

When rolling for a specific 5 or 4 star under a banner, should I start with my summon tickets or with 10 rolls? Or should I do a mix of the two?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Playboyize
Because it's human nature to do so.

WebTool
WebTool

@Raving_Cute
I thought the translators at Aksys(?) did great with Fate/Extra. Even if I learned enough Japanese to play CCC I don't think I'd be able to translate it to an English I find compelling. It'd end up reading like the dry fan translation of FSN.

FastChef
FastChef

POST VOID DUST

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Ignoramus
How do you remember 1000+ English words?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@New_Cliche
You're cute but too popular so I had to stop liking you

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

VOID DUST
GET YOUR VOID DUST HERE

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Nojokur
A good human being would acknowledge his own ignorance and be quiet and observe and learn.

@WebTool
If you learned enough Japanese you won't be "translating it" into English in your head. That's not how second languages work. You end up reading and thinking in that language.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

does anybody even use lvl90 Jeanne anymore or should i put my max ascended gil or altria in the all slot?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@BunnyJinx
100 dust
Damn, son. You've seen some shit.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Dreamworx
If you wait a few months the drop rates will literally be 10-50x better depending on the exact material. This isn't taking into account event shops either which often have monuments. This is why people are saying it's retarded to be farming skill/ascension mats right now

Skullbone
Skullbone

I'm so tired of daily quests. Even when this dango event starts it's going to be the same endless grinding with AOE NPs over and over again. Sometimes I forget I even have servants other than Tamamo and Altera because those are the only two I ever even get to use.

Waver support
immediate AOE NP
another one afterward
cleanup
works for every single mission they give us

askme
askme

@Bidwell
@Emberfire
It's not Nobu, it's Nobukatsu

Nobu's brother

Bidwell
Bidwell

He's the only character who's important in 99% of the timelines
What did Nasu mean by this?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Spamalot
If nothing else, you'd think the fact that Smiles J. Priestman endorses the Mind of Steel ending would make people think twice. He's giddy as shit to watch Shirou kill himself the way Kiritsugu did. For Kotomine, it's like going back and watching the porno that gave you your first boner.
I recall Kirei being disgusted in MoS, not delighted.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@DeathDog
trading dust for monuments
when altera alone needs 105 dust.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Dreamworx
You backpedaled from 1 week to 2, the drop rates suck so hard many people didn't get a single heart or claw of either type, or the amount of monuments they want despite over a week a straight grind.

And no, there's literally nothing to spend qp on. I have 3 servants over lvl 70 an over 45 million qp.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Lunatick
benis

askme
askme

MIND OF STEEL

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@PackManBrainlure
This user has good taste.
@Flameblow
For me only though.
@Evil_kitten
Cute things are cute. Stop being a contrarian hipster.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@askme
Kill that slut, Shirou.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Lunatick
me in real life

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@BinaryMan
Some say that depends on the age you start second language acquisition and probably how hard I study/practice the use of the second language. I've watched so much anime and played so many games over the years I know quite a bit of Japanese but really it just feels like rapid translation in my head. It's not like my actual 2nd language which is much more natural.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Is Sasaki worth getting to stage four? I wanna cause he was really cool in the VNs.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@hairygrape
and laid waste to the Fisher King
Ahh yes let's celebrate him for fucking everything up.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Deadlyinx
You're not learning the language, you're just picking up vocabulary

happy_sad
happy_sad

Arturia is a lesbian!

Playboyize
Playboyize

@SniperWish
I know a lot playing the JP version from a long time. Indians are huge weebs and fate is a really big franchise

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@FastChef
36 Ghost Lanterns
Really, HOW? I mean how?
Thsi crap is so rare as fuck I don't get how people can have so many of them. Even using apples and quartz shouldn't give you more than 2 a day considering how fucking rare they are.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@happy_sad
She is literal shit.
Killed her 15 times and still not a single fucking monument

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Dreamworx
not him but getting a servant to their 3rd/4th ascension is more important that upgrading skills right now, and that doesn't cost much QP

Snarelure
Snarelure

@LuckyDusty
backpedaling
I didn't backpedal. I literally quoted you. Are you retarded?
My point doesn't change whether it be 1 week or 2 weeks.
You keep complaining about the drop rates. Read my post again.
You will never have enough QP

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Fried_Sushi
implying
Don't go full weeb on me and tell me to immerse myself. Language acquisition is learning vocab, grammar structure, and making it second nature.

idontknow
idontknow

get Liz
no monuments
Drop your fucking ascension mats you stupid lizard.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Gigastrength
He's surprised that he doesn't stop Rin at first but then he tells Shirou he'll end up fighting Rin and everyone else as well as winning the war. Kotomine appears to like the exchange as he describes it out loud.

massdebater
massdebater

@Evil_kitten
You're right. That doesn't mean there's nothing to spend QP on. It also doesn't mean you're never not going to need it.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Evil_kitten
You forgot to mention that it's simply unfeasible to get skill liebels very high right now with these drop rates. There's a reason most wavers have low lvl skills and it's because even caster gems are impossible to farm without using quartz to refill ap.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@askme
bra
it's nobu, and before you say he's crossdressing, so far the artis only used sumonable servants and he isn't sumonable

Lunatick
Lunatick

King of Card Games servant when?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

IT WAS THE 16TH

I ONLY NEEDED TO KILL SIXTEEN SABERS TO GET ONE MONUMENT FROM HER

NOW TIME TO GET THE LAST ONE MISSING

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

still need 3 saber pieces

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Dreamworx
And you think you learn those with just watching chinese cartoons? Get real son

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Material trading market when

Techpill
Techpill

@lostmypassword
tanned tamma-cat
ya-yamero

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Snarelure
Oh okay, so we're not suppose to get even a third of our required materials in 2 weeks, that's not bullshit right? You can't name a single thing that requires a lot of qp right now, youre just parroting that we need a lot.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

So whats going to happen in timelines that held the Fuyuki 4th HGW with Kerry in it when his bomb goes off in 2054?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@happy_sad
realta nua
new ost
new ops by ufotable
new scenes
new CGs
no new fucking sprites
The BGs looks OK, even in the original. But the sprites, like Sakura's, look visibly dated.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Dreamworx
selling monuments 1 per quartz

Soft_member
Soft_member

@BinaryMan
it's works that way for me when I read english and translate it in my head
wait, no, I'm thinking this in english as I write it, fuck, never noticed it

idontknow
idontknow

@Booteefool
selling monuments one per ticket

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Gigastrength
I never said that now did I?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@5mileys
Now I need an uncensored version uploaded elsewhere.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@StonedTime
You keep going back to your shitty argument and I've explained it in like 3 posts.
I don't understand why you argue if you aren't even going to listen to reason, dumb shitposter.
You are going to need a lot of QP. I guarantee you in the future, you're going to be complaining about the lack of QP.
Read my first two posts again.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Booteefool
You could get stuck in an infinite play loop by using quartz to get 2 more monuments and then selling them.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Soft_member
Talking with someone in your first language
Get stuck because you don't know the word you are trying to say
But you know the word in your second language
Every time

hairygrape
hairygrape

@StonedTime
We will need absolute fuckloads of QP for skills.

Ask anyone in /fgog/ what hold them back the most - the answer will be QP.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@StonedTime
Oh okay, so we're not suppose to get even a third of our required materials in 2 weeks, that's not bullshit right?
it's not, no
the fact you can even reach a point where you need said mats so quickly is because of the accelerated pace we're going at, where we're way waaay ahead of what our supposed servant levels are even supposed to be at

you sound like an incredibly spoiled and entitled person. relax

Bidwell
Bidwell

I made a shitty tier list out of boredom, it basically just lumps all the available servants in the game and rates them for how well they clear current content (farming trash) with respects to what other shit is in the class at the time (ie carmilla is the best assassin in the game but is garbage at farming so she's a bit higher than she would actually be if there were a good aoe assassin).

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@BinaryMan
implying you don't translate it into your mother tongue realtime
How many second languages do you know, again?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Lord_Tryzalot
Traps are gay user.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Soft_member
I don't understand this kind of dicksuckery. The more stuff we got so we catch sooner to the JP, the better. No way people are stupid enough to get "burned" out of more than 30 minutes to play everyday (which is what we have right now), must be bait.

Techpill
Techpill

@Sharpcharm
No most likely a mat economy would go like this:
people begin selling quartz for mats, idiot whales buy it up easy
eventually whales are all maxed out on their servants so they stop buying, price of even rare mats degenerates to quartz fragments
eventually everyone begins to have a fully ascended team so they stop caring about mats so mat prices go the way of Zimbabwe with spikes during new servant events

Given, however, this would take place over the course of a year so a smart person could easily make hundreds of quartz from this type of stupidity

Methnerd
Methnerd

What sengoku era characters should they add

massdebater
massdebater

@PackManBrainlure
If you haven't noticed he's making them dress as schoolgirls

Nobukatsu is wearing his normal ponytail like always, Nobu is never depicted with it

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

What if Shirou summoned Astolfo
Would he suck his dick haha

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Bidwell
Altria in the same tier as Altera
Move her down to T7, she's objectively worse than Salter (which is saying something since Salter is a 4*)

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

My wife is so cute, she thinks I'm not going to marry her.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Bidwell
The fuck is this garbage?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Sir_Gallonhead
were you not here for the 1/2 AP event, when people here were complaining they were chaining together too many overflows and felt compelled to keep playing, despite only being able to grind dailies?

a week of downtime is hardly a bad thing, and certainly not "dicksuckery" unless you're a literal ADD-riddled 12 year old

DeathDog
DeathDog

tfw only 3 more monuments until civilization's final ascension

please send me your energy, and shoo shoo the dumb lizard, thank you

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@VisualMaster
Altera is objectively worse than both of them so...

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Stark_Naked
been there, couldn't say glass in my languaje but I had "glass" and "cup" in my mind, stupid brain

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@AwesomeTucker
Not this shit again.

Methshot
Methshot

@AwesomeTucker
wrong

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Need_TLC
What is this from?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Harmless_Venom
It's fake and gay, don't worry.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@DeathDog

You're getting void dust.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@kizzmybutt
Comparing 1/2AP at the beginning when people were like lvl 20-30 to now that almost everyone is around 80-100+ and can't get a lvlup so easily

Are you retarded?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Bidwell
AOE trash on top
Nice garbage tier list user

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Raving_Cute
only pretending, but yea

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Raving_Cute
aoe is king for the first year of the game

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I've notified the authorities about all this Liz abuse, expect a SWAT team at your doorstep soon rude jerks

Flameblow
Flameblow

Why are single target NPs considered better than AOE?

RumChicken
RumChicken

Is the retard cat worth max ascending? Even if you have lancalot?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Bidwell
Too much wrong to correct, doesn't makes much sense. It seems you put higher the Servants with an AoE NP, yet still put Fatcaesar, Marie and Carmilla that high ? Herc and Vlad I suppose it's because they hit hard enough as zerkers and have good skills, but why the Fatso ?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Flameblow
They do more damage and so are more useful against bosses.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@PackManBrainlure
Too bad I'm bullying her from my secret bunker. There's nothing you can do to stop me!

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Flameblow
Because when bosses with high HP start rolling in the AoE NP will be hitting like a wet noodle compared to single target NPs.

Inmate
Inmate

@VisualMaster
fixed after I ran the numbers

@Crazy_Nice
@Raving_Cute
read the filename

@CouchChiller
yeah I fucked up that part, I had to shift the whole list down and forgot to get rid of fatass

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@AwesomeTucker
You keep saying we need QP but have yet to name a single thing right now or even in the near future which will take up a lot of QP. What do we need a bunch of QP for? Skill farming for SSRs? An SSR like Waver needs 11 hearts and 20 plumes to get a SINGLE skill to lvl 10 (plus a bunch of pages which are unfarmable right now). The plumes are about 250ap per drop and the hearts 1000 ap per drop, they are available one day per week, or 288 ap per week, so you're expected to get 2 plumes and less than 1 heart per 2 weeks. This mathematically demonstrates that we can hope to make less than 1/10 of the mats required for level up skills to max, and hence we won't be needing QP for skill farming for months and months at the current rate.

So what in the game would actually require more than the 30+ million QP they've freely given out, either right now or in the future? Are you going to reply like a snob without an argument?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@RumChicken
No I'm doing it anyway

WebTool
WebTool

@Flameblow
because when shits starts having multiple life bars aoe np's are useless since they hit like shit thanks to the distributed damage, (even if there is only one target they still hit like an aoe attack instead of a single target one), is this your first time with RPGs in general?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@DeathDog
Bully that alien some more and your luck will increase.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Deadlyinx
The only AOE worth anything right now is Lancelot everything else is pretty trashy because of lack of strengthening, good CEs and fucking merlin

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@CouchChiller
This list is awful, don't pay too much attention to it. What's good now and what's going to be good a year from now are going to be different anyway.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Why does Liz's clown outfit look so retarded compared to others' ascensions?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Skullbone
retarded outfit for a retarded lizard

happy_sad
happy_sad

@RumChicken
Only if she's your waifu back off she's mine

idontknow
idontknow

@Lord_Tryzalot
Better to have a list for the current state of the game than follow lists for the game 2 years in the future :^)

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Inmate
I'm so confused, is Tamamo bad or good? I keep getting mixed signals with opinions and these tier lists.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Deadlyinx
What part of "you can never have enough," don't you understand? You're going to use it all eventually

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Deadlyinx
The answer is in your post. Damn, you're so mad you don't even realize you're answering your own questions hahahaahha

5mileys
5mileys

@Inmate
Marie that high
Throw her with the 3* her NP is trash damage and her attack stat is trash damage

Emberfire
Emberfire

@girlDog
Still trying to find the Chinese schedule to see how they were able to speed up the content.
Most of their speedup was in the beginning. They actually started having US tier delays starting from c. April, which the chinks were a little mad about. Accel Order was a lot longer than it needed to be for no apparent reason, for instance.

WebTool
WebTool

@BlogWobbles
our supposed servant levels are even supposed to be at

And what level is this? Based on whose idea of balance? You're going to tell me the game designers, with their well-thought out ideas of balancing that made Septem a stage, had all the right ideas in the early days of the JP version.

takes2long
takes2long

Vlad feels so much more useful than any other Support Servant for the Dailies.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@5mileys
he didn't read the post
Marie and Martha are currently the best riders in the game so of course they're gonna be rated higher than they should, if say drake was in.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

anon thinks AOE NP is still good if it can't kill all the enemies in one shot
At that point its on the same rank as a single target which 100% guarantees a single death per turn

Emberfire
Emberfire

anon has such bad servants that he can't clear hands in 3 turns

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@BunnyJinx
Jacku is the best

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Poker_Star
You still put her above Kiyohime who does way more damage with her AOE than her in nearly every case. Martha is in the game and so is Medusa so you can't hide behind that excuse.

idontknow
idontknow

@Emberfire
40AP takes me 11-12 turns without a Kaleido support.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Is it bad if I actually enjoy the writing?

FastChef
FastChef

@Emberfire
Bad CE's you mean

farquit
farquit

@idontknow
11-12 turns

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Emberfire
I can do 2/3 wave in 1 turn, but how do you clean the first one in 1 turn? it takes me 3-4 turn to beat it

Booteefool
Booteefool

@lostmypassword
There is nothing particularly wrong with having low standards as long as you understand you are reading garbage.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@LuckyDusty
AOE NP isn't the only attack you get in a single round if anything doesn't die. That still gives you a higher chance of killing more enemies in a turn than a single target NP.

Granted, I really don't know how much that matters since for the majority of battles available right now, Berserkers can typically OHKO most enemies.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Soft_member
@BunnyJinx
Well over half of these should be in a separate category labelled "trash"

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@ZeroReborn
assume current drop rates
take over 10 weeks to farm the mats for 1 skill
take 1 day per week to grind QP
10*288*(1million/40) > 70 million
1 skill to 10 only needs 20 million QP

Wow it's like materials and not QP are the constraining factors to leveling up skill right now, and the current material drop rates suck so bad, so farming them is a waste of time. It's like the downtime is good for nothing but stockpiling exp mats which you didn't even mention in your non-arguments.

You were probably one of those people telling people to get QP and MP before nerofest, and they promptly got fucked and were unable to ascend their servants.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Garbage Can Lid
kiyo does practically the same damage at 5NP, even with the best passive, martha's np also doesn't benefit from riding like marie's does.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@lostmypassword
Every scene with Liz iz perfect

massdebater
massdebater

do fukuyi-0 free quests
not one fang after 100 ap
Please tell me this is the right quest

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@lostmypassword
Sometimes it gets funny, but overall the plot so far is really fucking bad
Leff
That Nerowanking
Leff
Every line of dialogue Jeanne has
Leff
Sumanai
>>>>>>>>>LEFF

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

STELLA

happy_sad
happy_sad

fucking whales

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Crazy_Nice
A non effective NP does 10k max to hands unless it a 5* so its the equivalent of 3 decent attacks, which is also what the equivalent of a single target happens to be

Its really stupid to claim AOE is good on anything except lancelot or some whales NP5 Altera right now

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

someone please take all of these archer and lancer garbage

takes2long
takes2long

I SHOULD HAVE LISTENED TO HER. Now I'm stuck with Jeanne.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@CouchChiller
DIE DIE DIE DIE

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@kizzmybutt
I didn't mind Jeanne or Leff, but Septem was boring as all fuck. Didn't even make me hate Nero, it made me hate whoever wrote it because fucking nothing happens, Boudica was nonsense, and it's just boring as fuck. And I hate Nero to begin with, but nothing in the route made me hate her anymore. It was just a whole shitload of nothing. I couldn't tell you anything that happened in it beyond Boudica got kidnapped and bad civilization.

FastChef
FastChef

@TalkBomber
Kiyohime is basically a guaranteed NP5 servant, most people have at most a single NP2 4* right now, meaning 3* will always outdamage

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@CouchChiller
?? how many sq used

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@PackManBrainlure
Woops that's 1 skill from 1 to 10 requires ~55 million, but even that still less than 70 million.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Is the Arturia 2nd interlude unlockable yet?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Is it better to farm pieces in the 20 AP daily or the 30 AP?

farquit
farquit

@StonedTime
Saber Alter outdamages Lancelot on everything except Archers (i.e. on normal non effective enemies) and LV90 Blue Saber does about the same damage
this meme that only berserkers deal decent damage needs to stop

viagrandad
viagrandad

@CouchChiller
What the fuck

SniperWish
SniperWish

when does this qt going to be in the gacha?

apocrypha event where you play as a third faction when?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@PackManBrainlure
requires 55mil
No, it's much more than that. Also, 40AP for 1mil.
You're legitimately retarded.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@WebTool
you're such a dense sack of shit, you should be shocked anyone is willing to take time out of their day and willingly waste it on you

the NA version has servants that weren't in the game's initial release. we have ascensions that require materials that we can't even get yet. we needed Nerofest solely so we could get pages and gears.

we're a lot further ahead than JP was at release, and we're moving a hell of a lot faster than they were in terms of content

the reason materials are such a bitch to get is because they are intentionally creating bottlenecks for people to get stuck on, so they might feel compelled to spend money. right now we have an ascension material bottleneck. later may be bond points, and then even later, absurdly high QP requirements

these bottlenecks serve an additional purpose, so that no-life whales and casual f2p players don't have a massive gap in between them. the gap certainly still exists, sure, but it's done so in a way that a player just starting has a chance to catch up to players who have been playing since the getgo with the help of things like half AP and the events shitting out materials

I'll repeat; you obviously have no grasp on things like "balance" and patience, and should stop talking about them as if you're opinion matters or is even valid

You're going to tell me the game designers, with their well-thought out ideas of balancing that made Septem a stage, had all the right ideas in the early days of the JP version.
balance was the LEAST of Septem's problems, retard

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@JunkTop
Her NP is.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@StonedTime
A non effective NP does 10k max
But when you factor in boosts and effectiveness, you'll do more damage, and then you still have to factor in what your deck could be at the time where you have poor options to attack multiple enemies at once leaving you stuck with overkills.

And 10k still kills most everything in the game right now.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@AwesomeTucker
Same here, I didn't play Extra so was indifferent to Nero, but it's just boring as fuck, moving in a zone, see Caligula/Fatber/Roma/Altera with lots of nothing. At least Orleans had some dialogues other than ROMA in between Wyverns.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@farquit
Lancelot is more common than Saber Alter though plus he allows you to clear a wave and then critmeme the boss afterwards. Even better when you have Waver and Anderson supporting him.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@StrangeWizard
What are the requirements? 2nd ascencion, bond lvl 5 and clearing Septem?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@AwesomeTucker
Orelans was way better in comparison despite Marie wank.
Septem was god-awful and made me dislike Nero, Caligula, and Boudica while making me despise Caster Liz, Retard Cat and Stheno.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@FastChef
Marie/NP2/Lv80/neutral damage
1.11(8293*8)=73542 damage split across 3 enemies
Kiyo/NP5/Lv70/1.5 berserker bonus
1.2(6644*5)*1.5=59796 damage split across 3 enemies

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

What would be better for Orion: NP5 blue Man, NP2 Herc or NP1 Vlad?

Firespawn
Firespawn

@ZeroReborn
Blue Man

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@SniperWish
Latest event on JP takes place on Venus and is passing through places that share names with servants where you fight them as the big boss. The last two on the list are Semiramis and Ereshkigal. If not now in the middle of Apocrypha airing then never.

viagrandad
viagrandad

single target NPs are better than AoE because muh bosses
when 99.999999% of the game is brainless farming
Uhhh?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@VisualMaster
Not the hands and doors people should farming, no it doesn't

And if you're talking about 30 AP, you don't even NEED AOE in 30 AP, because there is literally only a single enemy with >10k HP and a single target NP is better for dealing with it

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@viagrandad

He's obviously just some /fgog/ shitter trying to ruse again

Emberburn
Emberburn

@ZeroReborn
Grab all 3 and rape her to death

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@SniperWish
I'd roll the shit out of her.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@SniperWish
Semiramis
Achilles
Avicebron
Chiron
I'd like to see them added too.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@TurtleCat
Are you fucking retarded? Marie has a quick NP, so the damage is really 58883.6

Whereas Kiyohime has a buster one, so the damage is really 89964.

Furthermore, who the fuck has an NP2 Marie of all things?

Git gud retard.

Booteefool
Booteefool

still no 40 day Quartz

viagrandad
viagrandad

@iluvmen
40 AP per 1 million was a lower estimate. If I wanted to be more accurate QP are even less of a problem. You also want to tell me how these add up to over 55 million?

@SniperGod
we're a lot further ahead than JP was at release, and we're moving a hell of a lot faster than they were in terms of content

This is bad because??? Chinese version is even faster and more successful.

the reason materials are such a bitch to get is because they are intentionally creating bottlenecks for people to get stuck on

And this is good because??? For making money? Every event and special banner were better for making money than milking people who can't plan ahead.

balance was the LEAST of Septem's problems

Sure, because they really didn't have much of Septem being fights against waves of sub 3000 hp roman soldiers after we got waves of ~5000 hp dragons from Orleans.

You've done nothing but call me names but you've offered no actual arguments other than "so the devs can fuck us more".

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@viagrandad
most AOE in the game cannot kill 40 AP hands in one shot
still result in 2 turn hands at best
Braindead moron.

Nojokur
Nojokur

I dont like this

Booteefool
Booteefool

@happy_sad
thanks for keeping the game alive ;_;7

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Booteefool
started a few days later because lack of time
got my 40 day quartz right on time

takes2long
takes2long

@SomethingNew
cant 1 shot hands??????????? how
literally every non shitter can

likme
likme

@viagrandad
Hahahahah you're mad

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@kizzmybutt
The story doesn't pick up for nearly a fucking year, you better strap in

viagrandad
viagrandad

@SniperWish
I hope soon bro, I want to smell her hair.

iluvmen
iluvmen

can I get these 3 with $1200?

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Firespawn
lul

massdebater
massdebater

@Nojokur
I was gonna ascend my liz as well until I saw that I only have 5 dragon fang. Said fuck it and went the Cu route instead. Now I just need one more of those stupid golem drop thing before I can ascend him again.

Evilember
Evilember

@iluvmen
Ask that user who got like 20 Atalante with 1200 dollars but no Gilgamesh

JunkTop
JunkTop

@iluvmen

The chances are good, user, but why not buy a little more just to be sure?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@iluvmen
Mathematically, you should be able to nearly guarantee them with about 800$, but with desire sensor active you won't get any with 8000$.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@iluvmen
Quick memer

cum2soon
cum2soon

@takes2long
Only berserkers, 5* and salter

Every other AOE in the game is trash for that reason. Those are the "real" top contenders.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@iluvmen
If you have EX Rank luck, you can get them all without spending a single penny.

TechHater
TechHater

@Firespawn
level 50 Kiyohime
Can you fucking read?

Also I have no idea if that is NP5

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@King_Martha
okita is my waifu so I want to build a team around her

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@iluvmen
Sure

Supergrass
Supergrass

jack every thread until she can be adopted

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@kizzmybutt
@AwesomeTucker
I kinda liked Leff as a villain but boy did Septem completely deflate him as such.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Burnblaze
Anyone?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

So what's the best way to guarantee killing the hands in 3 turns?

Methshot
Methshot

@Evilember
You're more likely to get an SSR within 2 rolls than single roll 400 times and get no SSR.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@whereismyname
Tickets. If you get who you want with a ticket, you'll save quartz.

Inmate
Inmate

@whereismyname
if you want other servants or CEs in the rate up do 10 rolls, if you just want 1 specific servant or CE do tickets first

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@King_Martha
same

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@TechHater
in what world will 20 levels get you 30k more damage

iluvmen
iluvmen

@King_Martha
Will watching prisma illya turn me into a lolicon?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Dreamworx
Lancelot Kaleido
Waver
Lancelot Sakura/Kaleido

Turn 1 Use all skills to boost both lancelot to 100% and increase crit gen. Kill wave with lancelot.
Turn 2. Crit wave to death with lancelot spam. If three busters aren't there, use damage boost command.
Turn 3. Lancelot NP again.

WebTool
WebTool

@Firespawn
i-i do user

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Dreamworx
guarantee
2 LB kaleidoscopes and a support with LB kaleidoscope. Anything else will fuck you with RNG eventually.
If you have a pimped out Spartacus you can get away with one of those kaleidoscopes being normal

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Sir_Gallonhead
In the world where you are missing 25% of your level 70 attack stat moron?

takes2long
takes2long

@Firespawn
who the fuck has an NP2 Marie of all things?

me....

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

use limited zero over on gil's support
get 300 fp an hour
put botj on him
get 3000 fp an hour

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Harmless_Venom
Eh, too lazy to ascend her plus I got her hp stat to exactly what I wanted

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@WebTool
@takes2long
Jealous. I love Marie. Instead I have NP2 Emiya.

Inmate
Inmate

@Firespawn
Against doors - which is overwhelmingly the most common scenario where you would bring a Rider and therefore the best scenario to analyze - both of the 4* riders have a favorable attribute while all of the major Berserkers have an unfavorable attribute

So considering Marie for instance, her NP would deal NP damage * quick modifier * riding boost * class boost * attribute boost = 6 * 0.8 * 1.11 * 2 * 1.1 = 11.7216x damage

Kiyohime, for comparison, deals NP damage * buster modifier * ME boost * class boost * attribute penalty = 5 * 1.5 * 1.12 * 1.65 * 0.9 = 12.474x damage

NP5 Kiyohime has less than a 7% higher multiplier compared to NP1 Marie, and since Marie is a 4* the base ATK being multiplied is going to be a lot more than 107% of Kiyohime's

WebTool
WebTool

@Methshot
What kind of logic is that? Your chances are always 1%

Emberfire
Emberfire

@LuckyDusty
Here you go, user.
http://aminoapps.com/page/anime/3733829/what-if-rin-summoned-the-king-of-heroes

RumChicken
RumChicken

Who here is saving all their quartz for Hopeman?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@WebTool
It's ~2% for 2 rolls, which is still more than the chance of no SSR's within 400 single rolls.

WebTool
WebTool

@Evil_kitten
Medea summons skeletons when she gets her animation update, and Nitocris summons mummies and spooky Medjeds.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Booteefool
what the fuck are you talking about

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Inmate
Except Kiyohime is better for hands so your cherrypicking is irrelevant.

Furthermore, Marie cannot be ascended past level 60 right now so everyone farming hands should be picking Martha AND Kiyo over her.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@RumChicken
Im saving my quartz for Musashi next year.
I might throw around some tickets here and there though.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Methnerd
Don't forget Morgan le Fay.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@WebTool
The odds of getting a 5 star in one roll is 1%. The odds of that 1% happening in greater than one roll is no longer 1%. If that's too confusing for you, just remember: the odds are always 50%/50%, either you get it or you don't.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@viagrandad
Except Kiyohime is better for hands
Hands have the same attribute you fucking underage

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@RumChicken
Me

Lunatick
Lunatick

AAAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHH

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Flameblow
Bedivere
non-prosthetic arm

Emberburn
Emberburn

@viagrandad
Furthermore, Marie cannot be ascended past level 60 right now
needs 12 horse shoes
15 from nero fest
user I...

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Firespawn
Who has an np2 Marie of all things
I do.
tfw tempted to get 80 in quartz to attempt to get np5 during dangoplings

girlDog
girlDog

@RumChicken
I'm not specially saving, but he's the only one I'm gonna whale for. Count of Monte-Cristo was my favorite book when I was younger. I should read it again one of theses days.

idontknow
idontknow

I have Maria i-is it okay to level her? Is she really that bad?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Emberburn
... am gay.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@RumChicken
Hands are multiclass so she is better for all hands you fucking moron, learn to do math

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Spamalot
Many people who started on day 1 didn't get their 40 day streak bonus, while those who started later did.

idontknow
idontknow

farm Saber/Archer/Lancer monuments mission
around 800-1000 ap in total
liz liz liz liz liz liz liz liz liz liz liz liz
haven't seen any gold monuments since they fucked up with 1/2 ap daily quests
I just wanted to fully ascend my favorites and I need only 1 monument for both Altera and Emiya

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@RumChicken
saving
If you don't lucc into getting him in a single roll it doesn't count

Skullbone
Skullbone

@girlDog
Monte Cristo is a fucking shit book

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@StonedTime
@Raving_Cute
tfw no lancelot or kaleido
well fuck me then, thanks for the answers though

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

snek

Moon fest finally announced

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@TreeEater
tfw angry kiyo user won't bend me over while I'm dress like marie

Lunatick
Lunatick

@GoogleCat
implying 80 quartz is enough to get 3 4*s

Bidwell
Bidwell

@viagrandad
Marie cannot be ascended past level 60
But I have her at level 70 user.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Snarelure
what is it, 10 quartz? I don't know if I got it or not because i wasn't paying that much attention on day 40.

5mileys
5mileys

@Fuzzy_Logic
4 Quartz

Emberburn
Emberburn

@idontknow
dude, the current break is so great for leveling up your servants and ascension farming, you're just an impatient idiot

viagrandad
viagrandad

Now that you mention it.
What is your opinion on the Danganronpa artist?

Edmond is one of the more popular servants but plenty of people shit on Cleo for how she looks.

happy_sad
happy_sad

How many tanks is enough?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@King_Martha
Lu Bu or Caligula

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

trying to farm blue caster gems the other day
Zero luck
Get a blue gem
And a heart
This feast or famine gameplay is bullshit

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@5mileys
that seems negligible enough that I'm not too bothered even if I didn't get it

Soft_member
Soft_member

@New_Cliche
@Inmate
Thanks guys. Drake here I come. I haven't spent a single ticket so far.

eGremlin
eGremlin

romu

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Emberburn
tfw the current break is the exact length of GUDAGUDA on taiwan
tfw the dango event is the exact length of the break taiwan gets before christmas
pretty convenient tbqh

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@viagrandad

Suck ass.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@viagrandad
There are worse than him.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@happy_sad

More like, when are we going to get 5* St. George (Lancer)?

Ascalon was a fuckin' spear.

askme
askme

Why is Romulus in that retarded Y pose

Methshot
Methshot

@Soft_member
assuming you're going to get an SSR

King_Martha
King_Martha

@askme
R O M A
O
M
A

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Skullbone
You should read it in French.

5mileys
5mileys

@DeathDog
Worst artist is the Maou guy which his Tituria

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Who /willrollfororion/ here?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@viagrandad
He sucks, I wish we'd have gotten the Drama CD artist for Edmond.

massdebater
massdebater

@askme
Dude praise the sun lmao

Skullbone
Skullbone

@CodeBuns
Taiwan gets a long event and a short break, that looks like they're getting better treatment to me.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@viagrandad
I'm fine with him but I'm biased because I like DR a lot

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@5mileys
Yeah, fuck him, he ruined his own amazing designs with his shitty fucking art.

likme
likme

@Methshot

Why is Tamamo so clever, yet so dumb

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Skullbone
/fgoalter/ will bitch about it either way. I don't think anyone informed them that they're playing a shitty mobage.

5mileys
5mileys

@idontknow
She's pretty great.
Not a powerhouse, but incredibly durable with a nice benefit of some decent star generation (though she has a high draw rate too, so it works best with someone like Lancelot).
Plus if you have np2 or np chain, her np has an okay heal.

@Lunatick
I meant 80 bucks, though I'd probably limit myself to 2-3 rolls max. If I can get np3 from that I'll be happy.

@viagrandad
Marie cannot be ascended past 60
If you started after Nerofest or ascended someone else, sure.

Skullbone
Skullbone

I'm looking over the list I made of servants I want, as well as classes that I am lacking in. Was hoping to get your guy's opinion on a couple servants at least.

I don't have a Lancer I like right now. I was looking over the list, and the Lancers I am interested in are Vlad, Tamamo, and Scathach in that order. How are these units and which should I prioritize? I am somewhat indifferent to Scathach, but she seems to very rarely go up for summoning so I am wondering if I should go for her.

Same with Caster. I can't imagine I'll be able to get all of them or even one of them so I have to prioritize. Out of these, how are they and which would you recommend me going for?

Tamamo
Xuanzang
Nitocris

I like them all equally.

On a somewhat related note, trying not to whale is surprisingly kind of fun when you have the Japanese calendar as a reference point. It lets you plan ahead and decide on who you really care about and such. I feel bad for the Japanese players as they have no idea who is going to come next and when, so it basically forces that sort of compulsive spending if you get attached to certain designs or personalities. I'm literally planning out the next two+ years in terms of when to save quartz and when to roll.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@SniperWish
is that gif a fucking spoiler for v3?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@haveahappyday
No, it's 1% everytime. You're just rolling 10 times.

Inmate
Inmate

@askme
To give you a fair chance to kill him by placing his spear behind him and exposing all of his weakpoints to you.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Harmless_Venom
don't like the game
don't like the people in the thread

You're acting like you're better than everyone but the only person making you come here is yourself.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@viagrandad
I absolutely hate his art style and was really sad when I saw that he drew Dantes and not someone else. Dantes' core design is decent, but ruined by the artist. It hurts me especially because I am such a huge fan of the source material. Seeing him turned to some edgy looking hipster is painful, but I still have to get him because it is Dantes.

It's so weird that the blue skinned Dantes from the anime is more accurate visually than the one in F/GO

idontknow
idontknow

@LuckyDusty
I will just because I don't want to worry too much about Camelot when it comes out.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Skullbone
Tamamo lancer is the best lancer in the game right now but Scathach is very good for big damage and crit memes.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Really like my EMIYA
Really like my Cu
Really like my Chevalier
Really like my Martha
An all Berserker team is objectively the most efficient way to clear through the current content

what do /fgoalter/?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@MPmaster
clicking on any gif with Danganronpa relation

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Harmless_Venom
The game gets a lot better later on

Emberfire
Emberfire

@PurpleCharger
I like the game. The fact that it's objectively shit doesn't change that. I like the thread aside from the constant bitching.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@MPmaster
Hasn't played V3 yet
Still hovers over any image that looks related to it

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Emberburn
Ignore efficiency, use favorites?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Emberburn
Fun > Efficiency

You can do all the current content with a subpar team at this point, so pick the Servants you like.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@hairygrape
Do you not understand what statistics are?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Emberfire
Critical people on Veeky Forums? Who would've thought?

DeathDog
DeathDog

GUYS HELP BLUEMAN KEEPS GETTING HARDER AND HARDER WAITING FOR ORION PLS WHAT DO I DO?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@RumChicken
I am

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Snarelure
Good to know thank you user. I don't really intend to have a crit based setup. Also, I really want the archer Anne Bonny so Tamamo being that strong makes doing that banner roll a no-brainer.

Is Vlad that bad or is he just nothing special? I love the contrast between his insanely edgy outfit and surprisingly reasonable face, especially with his fully ascended artwork. It just makes it look like he's a reasonable guy wearing that outfit to try to intimidate people.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Skullbone
I'm gonna roll for Scathatch cause I do need a good lancer, I don't even have a Cu and she is the reason why I am even playing this to begin with, so take my opinion with a grain of salt I want Vlad too, but I want Zerker Vlad instead.

I dunno about Casters and I have Waver so I'm not too worried, but Tamamo seems to be the one everyone agrees is pretty good (At least on an arts team)

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I don't get why they're so stingy with giving out quartz. Usually when a game has terrible rates like this one they're a bit more generous with giving out currency so people don't just drop it

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@DeathDog
I want to stuff both of my fists into Medb's ass.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@MPmaster
I forgot that was a gif when I posted it, but it's not a spoiler

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@MPmaster
Vlad is just mediocre but he's hardly a bad servant to get

SniperGod
SniperGod

@iluvmen
Why are pantyhose so great?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Emberburn
My only Berserker at the moment is a 30 Spartacus who I just keep in the back. You really don't need to optimize at all, the current content is pisseasy.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@SniperGod
@Skullbone
funnily enough i didn't expect major plot details from a random image in an unrelated general, whatever lesson learned i suppose i shouldn't of risked it

FastChef
FastChef

Just started out yesterday
Already have three different Cu Chulainns
This is actually hilarious. Which of his Lancer versions is better?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@MPmaster
Is Vlad that bad or is he just nothing special?
Lancer Vlad is a 4*. A good 4*, mind you, but still nowhere near lancelot or mashu.
Tamamo's skills come with drawbacks so she's a bit trickier to use than Scathach, but has higher max potential.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@w8t4u
I have a NP2 Cu, but I just hate him too much to bother using him. He was such a loser in the series and his sprite, voice lines, and animations in this game are garbage tier. Plus he isn't interesting at all mechanically. Him being a cockroach that hits like a wet noodle is not interesting. I'd rather have no Lancer at all than waste materials on him.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@ZeroReborn
They're subtly warning us not to get too invested since the servers will be shut down before the year ends.

WebTool
WebTool

Did they raise the rate on those gold monument things

Getting a ton today like, 2 or 3 at time a lot

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@FastChef
fate stay night version is best.

Supergrass
Supergrass

which berserker should I ascend?
both are in thier 2nd ascencion
Herc or Snek?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@SniperGod
Because it shows the greatness of legs

Inmate
Inmate

@Supergrass
10.0 or idk some snek I guess

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@ZeroReborn
I think they are waiting to do that once sales decline. It sounds like the Jeanne rateup was really profitable for them. If they intend to start accelerating the events they will likely want to start dripping more quartz into the mix. Plus, it will be an easy way to renew interest.

I GUARANTEE you the devs are 100% done and ready with some event + promotion + log in bonus that they have no intention of using until they start to feel like interest in the game is dying.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Gigastrength
good luck with orion faggot

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Supergrass
herc. If you can get his max bond level CE, he will be very hard to kill off.

farquit
farquit

I just cleared my friends Post over 5 days with no logins.
Please, be my friend?

893,937,439

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Booteefool
Can't wait to check in tomorrow and not receive the 50 day quartz either!

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@cum2soon
Yes, I do. Your chances per roll are 1%.
You roll 10 times.
Each of those times is 1%.
Your chances for each roll do not get greater for each instance.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Booteefool
got my 40 day quartz
didnt get my 30 day quartz
por que

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Reminder Liz is always here to help you beat Orion!

Evilember
Evilember

@SniperWish
I'll pull him out of the cobwebs for her then. What's your point?

whoa this unit is useful once every six months get fucked user!

StonedTime
StonedTime

How fucked am i with a team of 50 Liz and 50 Cu?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@farquit
still no 4* servant besides the starter
can't ascend anyone because mats don't exist
still not a single person has used my support

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Gigastrength
You might have worse taste than Sakurafags do.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Crazy_Nice
AOE

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

FSN Cu is the only 3 star I'm missing and I'm worried I might have trouble against Orion without him. Are there any other Lancers I could use as substitutes?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Evilember
nice job shifting the goalposts, nigger

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@LuckyDusty
Only a few more weeks user.
And you can feel the disappointment JP players felt already.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@CodeBuns
So what are the cumulative odds of getting a 5* if you roll 10 times? The one single value that denotes your odds after 10 rolls

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@CodeBuns
Your chances for each roll don't get greater, but your chances of getting what you want do the more rolls you throw out. It always remains a chance and will never hit 100%, but that is how statistics work. After a certain amount of rolls it becomes more likely you get them than not.

Why are people so bad at math?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Gigastrength
Liz

idontknow
idontknow

@5mileys
so it works best with someone like Lancelot
Shit I don't have him, is Herc okay or no?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@SomethingNew
I didn't find V3 disappointing in the least

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Gigastrength
My Liz.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Let's see some math, lads.

Soft_member
Soft_member

there will be legitimate retards who buy the 2nd/3rd event CE and the exp ups

ya'll dumbass niggas need to realize that if you ONLY bought the monuments, the fous AND the first CE, you would only need 4000 dangos instead of 13,000

You can focus on getting shitloads of hearts afterwards instead, since we won't have any heart sources for 1 year and the next source of hearts is gudaguda which is 2 months later and you only get 10.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@SniperWish
Orion
260k HP boss
difficult even if you don't use a Lancer

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Methnerd
1 - 0.99^x. x is the number of rolls. That's the odds of getting any 5*. To calculate the odds for a single rate-up, multiply that by 0.7

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Fried_Sushi
It was pretty good till that last final chapter

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Nude_Bikergirl
At least he's still using numbers, the other general I frequent doesn't believe drop rates are even mathematical in nature

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Can Cu instakill Orion?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Supergrass
do you like snek?
does she do things to your dick?
if yes snek no herkek

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@idontknow

You realize cu does like 0 damage right?

Just borrow someone's level 90 herc, he can do BBB for 120k+ or 200k with an NP. And it's not like orion can kill him with 2 evasion ups and a guts ability.

Lunatick
Lunatick

tfw started 1 day later because of rerolling

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Soft_member
Are you implying the droprates for the hearts will be anywhere close to good?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Evil_kitten
That is because the average joe is fucking retarded and does not understand elementary level maths. Humanity really is doomed.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Soft_member
He isn't going to Limit Break the CE after the event
He is going to waste all his AP trying to get hearts
get a load of this retard.

TechHater
TechHater

@Evil_kitten
doesn't believe drop rates are even mathematical in nature

I mean there are plenty of people here who believe in superstitious bullshit like tickets/singles being better than 10 rolls, or that you can do literally anything to increase your odds in a mechanical RNG system, but to outright deny them being mathematical is absurd.

girlDog
girlDog

@viagrandad
No, but it has a guaranteed Daemon for a few days, so it's better than then 30AP Friday Daily in that regard

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Is Gil actually strong lorewise? He seems like a huge jobber.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I only need 1 Heart, that won't take too much AP to get right?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@SniperWish
witch and twintails survive
Picking this the fuck up

takes2long
takes2long

@Deadlyinx
He's the strongest.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Deadlyinx
Incredibly strong.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Cu's NP is named Gay Bulge
No wonder he attracts all the faggots.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Methnerd
@Nude_Bikergirl
So you're saying there's a better chance at rolling a 5* in a 10 roll as opposed to rolling 1 10 times

Evilember
Evilember

@Deadlyinx
He is the strongest, but overconfidence and pride is his downfall.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Dreamworx
The CE is shit and you need RNG to get 2 more from drops.

You are an NA-only faggot from reddit. kys yourself.

@viagrandad

Hell no, but you do get 10 chances per day with a guaranteed demon for 4-5 days(after farming what you need) as opposed to that 50/50 bullshit which is only available on Friday.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@SniperGod
fucking UPVOTED XD

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@TechHater
Hey, I always press the roll button with my dick and I get my targets with tickets only.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@idontknow
He just wouldn't get as many crit stars is all.

@Deadlyinx
Stupidly op, he just doesn't take anything or anyone seriously.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Nude_Bikergirl
it becomes more likely
No it doesn't. It's always 1%.

likme
likme

@CodeBuns
No? Those chances are the same.

Well, if we're talking 5* servant the 10 roll might have a tiny edge because it guarantees a servant instead of the possibility of getting 10 keys, but I doubt it's statistically relevant ultimately.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Deadlyinx
@Evilember

So basically he's really weak

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@TechHater
The argument boiled down to drop rates aren't math because statistical outliers can exist (not the way they phrased it but the conclusion they came to) so in the end they boiled it down to abstract concepts of ~pure random~ as if the idea of random isn't mathematical itself.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Spazyfool
So I have the same chance of getting a 5* Servant, 1%, from a single roll, as I do if I rolled 1,000,000 times, each with a 1% chance to get them?

You are too stupid for this world.

5mileys
5mileys

How Good is Gil compared to other archers and servants in general in Grand Order?

Inmate
Inmate

@Burnblaze
@DeathDog
@idontknow
@AwesomeTucker
The jacket have frills, unlike Gil's

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@RavySnake
Naw, he is able to murderfuck just about every servant out there with relative ease. But that would require him to try, and he's a lazy arrogant fuckhead.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Firespawn
At level 70 Kiyo can easily wipe out something with 25k HP even with the element penalty provided you buff her one time. That's pretty much all you need for farming doors and hands.

https://aria.ma.cx/bored/ScreenRecord_2017-08-12-22-18-33.mp4

I can even kill them without buffs at 85.
My experience of using her against doors and hands was that at level 40 she was very poor, at level 50 she was usable with buffs, at level 60 she was easy to use - better than my martha (NP1) against doors who was and still is level 50.. And finally at level 85 it's a faceroll when it comes to farming. Martha would probably be considerably better on doors if only she had NP2, but no such luck.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Nude_Bikergirl
I think people like @Spazyfool
are just trolling. Nobody's really that dumb.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@RavySnake
The stronger you are in a Type Moon work, the weaker you actually will be. It's true.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@5mileys
He and Arturia are the best archers.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@5mileys
The strongest. Him and Enkidu are at the top, with the only ones able to challenge them being Karna and Arjuna most likely.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@DeathDog
20% critstar droprate, 20% crit damage up
bad
yeah okay dumbass.
Also you can buy it 5 times, have you even looked at the event?

go back to /fgog/

Evilember
Evilember

@Need_TLC
Now you're acting retarded. Of course you have a better chance if you roll 1 million times as opposed to 1 time.

FastChef
FastChef

Nito when?
@Ignoramus
I started two day ago. Got her and I really like Kiyohime. I'll have her in my team, that and her NP is actually great.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Need_TLC

Even after failing 99999999999999999999 rolls, you still only have a 1% chance to get another servant on the next roll. Stop trying to backpedal/changing your original argument.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Deadlyinx
That reasoning would work a little in a small sample environment but if you're going to be grinding everyday on, cumulatively, hundreds of events, you'd want to grind the events with the highest expected payoff.

Too bad the expected payoff for the current dailies is absolutely trash.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@FastChef
In a year

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@CodeBuns

So how does this math work when you have 1000 rolls?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Dreamworx
You're actually retarded.
Each roll is always 1%. Your chances do not get greater rolling 10 times at once than rolling 1 time 10 times.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Evilember
If you haven't been trolling this whole time, go back to very first post in this reply chain. It said you were more likely to get a 5* servant after 2 rolls than to not get one from 400 rolls. 1-.99^2 is better odds .99^400. You (or someone) saying that wasn't true is the origin of this chain.

Evilember
Evilember

Who else FUCKING loves Moonlight Shadow here? Best song to get drunk to.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Evilember
@w8t4u
I only entered any discussion here:

@Nude_Bikergirl

And nothing about that post is wrong. There's no backpedaling or argument changing. You denied it and claimed it doesn't become more likely to get a servant with more rolls, which is the dumbest fucking thing you could say about this system.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@FastChef
snek loves (you) too
even if you try to run

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@RavySnake
No, but across 100 rolls with 1% chance you can expect to get 1 outcome. The chance on any given roll never increases, but the likelihood of failure across enough trials starts to shrink compared to the likelihood of a single success.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@whereismyname

Moonfest 2015 has 3 copies, 2017 has five. You are the fucking retard here you reditSHIT.

A crit USER wants crit damage up and a buster/np damage up.

A crit generator wants quicks up or pure crit droprate(be elegant).

That is a shitty hybrid that's only possibly good if you use a 3-quick team and somehow don't have an imaginary around.

you are a mathematical retard, that shit will never be better than limited zero/imaginary around/holy maiden/sumo/joint recital when we finally reach the point of "not farming hands".

Emberfire
Emberfire

@TechHater
superstitious bullshit like tickets/singles being better than 10 rolls
it has been EMPIRICALLY VERIFIED that the 10-roll does nothing to increase your chances of anything other than 4* CEs and 3* servants
doing singles instead of bulk rolling lets you stop as soon as you achieve a desired goal, instead of going on to waste 1-8 rolls on a rateup you no longer care about

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Skullbone
Caster Tamamo
Really good for Arts teams, providing a very good Arts card buff and a rather alright support NP.
Vlad shines when paired with her.
Xuanzang
Brings a rather average party support buff for star and np gauge generation, a taunt and a np gauge filling skill that gives her gauge+NP Damage.
A offfensive caster, which aren't known for hitting very hard in general, but she's still a 5* and one of the few Casters with a single target NP for taking down hp-spongey riders.
Probably won't be bringing her along too often if you have support casters unless a Rider needs to be dead.
Nitocris
Another offensive caster, skill kit is tailored towards spamming her AOE NP and trying to get its instant death to proc.
Has a guts so she can live a while longer.
Might have trouble killing things with her NP due to Caster damage modifier make it like a wet noodle.
Since I never rolled her though, I'm not sure if the death proc chance is enough for most things that aren't bosses, including hands.

idontknow
idontknow

@Evilember
You talking about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD11FpDa3NY

TechHater
TechHater

@RavySnake
Your chances do not get greater rolling 10 times at once than rolling 1 time 10 times.

What the fuck are you saying? This argument doesn't make sense and no one is even talking about it. No shit, the chances are the same there. Anytime you make 10 rolls your chance of getting what you want is no longer 1%, each roll is 1%, bu the cumulative chance is higher than that you retard.

Flameblow
Flameblow

400 AP later
Not ONE (1) fucking fang
even got fucking VOID DUST
COME ON MAN I JUST NEED TWO MORE

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Gigastrength
It's just 1 - .99^1000. Approximately 1 if you round up to the eight decimal place. So you have less than a 1000th of a percent of not getting a 5*.

@TechHater
@Need_TLC
Stop taking the bait.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@idontknow
Sure do.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Deadlyinx
Gilgamesh can fight 5 servants by himself just by using whatever weapons/tools in his GoB to counter them. His Caster version is a good example of what Gil is capable of.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Emberfire
That was entirely about the chances, user. Singles don't give you any better chances. You can say you might be wasting quartz, but there are no better chances given to you doing one over the other.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Need_TLC
1 outcome with 1% chance on 100 rolls
That's not how probability works

RumChicken
RumChicken

This is now a spicy snek thread

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Gigastrength

Anyone? Legitimately want to learn since my school neglected our math course completely.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@ZeroReborn
The JP version seems to give more free candy. I recently starting playing it, and one of the first things I saw was that there's one of those weekly? missions that gives out 10 saint quartz. Can't read what it requires, but that's still 10 saint quartz for just playing the game. I'm also drowning in Ascension materials just from playing for a few days, too. Hopefully they bring a couple of these improvements whenever new events and story chapters come out.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@LuckyDusty
The JP version is currently having a big anniversary event. That isn't usual for them.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@ZeroReborn

@Spazyfool

askme
askme

Who /Ready4Manjew/ here?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@ZeroReborn

Depends on what answer you want.

On Average how many you will get?

or

What is the probability of AT LEAST getting one SSR with 1000 quartz?

The answer to #1 would be around 3 servants (that you do not necessarily want), 2nd one I cbf using a calculator for.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@TechHater
It makes sense. You're literally missing the second half of the argument, though. It's okay though, you repeated it in your post, fuckin retard.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Is the Strange/Fake manga worth reading? Or should I just wait for the inevitable anime adaptation?

I want to read it just for him. His design is easily one of my absolute favorite looking servants.

Spamalot
Spamalot

What general is actually good at math? I'm yet to find one that is

askme
askme

@RumChicken
The probably one one SSR with 1000 quartz is around 90% iirc

Inmate
Inmate

@askme
lol

idontknow
idontknow

@askme
I FUCKING WASTED ALL OF MINE but I least I got a 2nd Ushi.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Spazyfool

I'm with you so far. I assume the 1 represents the 100% chance of acquiring it.

If I follow your formula, I'll get this:
1- .99^1000 = 1 - 4,32
1 - 4,32 = -3,32

What am I supposed to derive from that?

??

RavySnake
RavySnake

@askme
clearly not (You)

Bidwell
Bidwell

@happy_sad
Cool
@Harmless_Venom
I don't care, she is absolutely cute and I will take good care of her. I will be honest if that's what she also wants.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Spamalot
good at math
None of them, because most people here are pre-calc babbies or level 1 calc babbies

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Boy_vs_Girl
That might explain why they have like five pages of different gacha going on right now, too, as well as all of these blue daily quests that give out tickets and mystic codes.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@lostmypassword
If you can find translations

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@askme

54k FP
"Ready for Manjew"

user, you're not ready for shit.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@RumChicken
cant escape the snake

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Emberburn
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1-0.99%5E1000

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Emberburn
What the fuck are you doing user

1 - 0.99^1000 = .99995682875.

This is your percentage. You have a 99.995682875% chance of getting a 5*. Note that it will literally never hit 100.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Deadlyinx
He's actually the strongest servant lorewise.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@askme
1-.99^1000 = 99.9957%

Methshot
Methshot

@LuckyDusty
Can't read what it requires, but that's still 10 saint quartz for just playing the game
10 for clearing every chapter. Part of the big 2nd anniversary celebration. The abundance of ascension mats are also normal for a game with far more servants to ascend and many times more kinds of mats. But they really ought to bring over every minor improvement they can if they want people to stay interested. If they're serious about NA being more about maintaining interest and not profits, and lets face it it'll never ever come close to JP's profits, they should start doling out the free rolls.

FastChef
FastChef

/whowaitingforJANNUALTERhereandsavingeverysinglequartzandcardthathehasjustforher/?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Gigastrength
hurrr i can math because i took gen ed calculus
No generals are good at math because every general gets trolled by people acting deliberately obtuse, you dumb cunt

5mileys
5mileys

@eGremlin
That's the chance of getting at least one SSR, not getting exactly one.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@FastChef
just spend money faggot

happy_sad
happy_sad

@haveahappyday
No way, fag. She's going to pop my quartz cherry.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@FastChef

I'm afraid the game will die by then

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@askme
user I have the same amount as you and I know I'm not nearly ready for him

Soft_member
Soft_member

I did quite a few rounds on the Summoning Simulator to see how many 10-Rolls you need before you get a 5-Star

Result: On average you need around 10-11 ten-rolls before getting a SSR Servant

Shit varies a lot.
One time you get Altera or Vlad with 1-2 tenrolls for a few times in a row and the next time you need 28 ten-rolls before getting any SSR.

What do we learn? You are never on the safe side.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@FastChef
Is she better than Gilgamesh?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Gigastrength

I think my calculator is broken or something. I'm not getting the .99995682875 number at all. Makes sense now though.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@FastChef
HERE

5mileys
5mileys

@TreeEater
Best attacker in the game.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Soft_member
on average you need 10*10 rolls to get something with a 1% chance
wow user you're doing god's work please bring us more discoveries

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Soft_member
I'm rolling 11 months from now and 17 months from now assuming the gacha schedule is the same. This account has never rolled SQ gacha beyond the tutorial. I'm still nervous about my odds.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Nude_Bikergirl
That wasn't part of the debate.
People argued about the guaranteed 4* thing on the gacha and how it effects the chance.

Result: Guaranteed 4* doesn't do shit.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@askme

Oh you sweet summer child

Methnerd
Methnerd

If only every board has latex, it would cut down some of the mis-understandings.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Skullbone
Caster Tamamo
Good Support for Arts teams with her nice 50% Arts buff to a party member.
NP is an AOE heal and reduces skill cooldowns by a turn.
Xuanzang
Offensive Caster but has 2 skills that can support the party. A taunt and np+crit star generation rate.
Single Target NP for taking down HP spongey Assassins, but isn't expected to do too much damage against anything else due to the caster damage modifier holding her back.
Nitocris
Offensive caster with a skill-kit tailored towards spamming her NP and getting the instant death to kick in to make up for its damage because she's a caster.
Has no support skills.
Instant death does not work on most bosses due to having really high resist to it most of the time.
I never rolled her so I'm not too sure if the death proc chance is enough to get the job done on hands and mobs most of the time.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Snarelure
The 4* thing only checks if you have a 4* at all at the end and if not rolls a 4* with 100% odds.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Lord_Tryzalot
Says who?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@kizzmybutt
Cu Alter has both higher ATK and HP than Kintoki
Does Kintoki have something to compensate with?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Methnerd

I don't know what i E, P and N means. :(

Methnerd
Methnerd

@kizzmybutt
So, Attlia and Ishtar are better than Gilgamesh?

Methshot
Methshot

@girlDog
Was really neccesary the chin meme?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Methnerd
Don't think, let your dick decide.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@SomethingNew
https://www30.atwiki.jp/fategoout/pages/33.html

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Methnerd
From a pure stat standpoint but you also have to take into account skills and NP effects which Gil has both beat on once he gets his interlude

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Methnerd
''Better'' usually means how useful a servant is.

Gilgamesh is a 9.0 on the memelist because every single servant is weak against Enuma Elish which makes him the perfect servant killing machine,

Altera might have more attractive stats but her skills are generally worth less than Gils.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@askme
9mil downloads campaign on JP a few months back hands out 90k FP to everyone
Don't get a single Euryale or Manjew.
Nah, I'm pretty sure you still need more.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@haveahappyday
You should get 5 copies and limit break it so enemies will drop more dango anyways.

FastChef
FastChef

@TreeEater

She has the highest attack in the game, in addition being an avenger gives her +10% extra attack(hidden stat), she also doesn't suffer class penalties for the most part.

She's mainly OP as shit because of the merlin-merlin(support)-waver bullshit meta.

You can grant her 120% attack, 310% extra crit damage and 150% buster damage (plus a CE of your choice).

Not counting crits or a ce (say, the black grail which adds like 70% multiplicative NP damage), this would give her 5.5x damage output on her NPBB.

The damage is absolutely insane, she also does a ton of damage even without the buff stacking, so yeah.

takes2long
takes2long

@FastChef
No and if I ever pull her, she's going right into the fire.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Methnerd
Do you really need 3 formulas and 4 paragraphs to say something so simple?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@takes2long
I will FUCKING end you, kiddo.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@eGremlin

The 2nd/3rd does not pay for itself, not by a fucking longshot pal, it will give you an extra 20%~ output maybe (if you support someone with the 100% bonus CE, and you have an automaton and your first copy)? and yet those two alone will MORE THAN DOUBLE your overall farming requirements.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I wanna fug the smug out of this snek

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Methnerd
welfare

MPmaster
MPmaster

@TurtleCat
If you want to make precise unambiguous statements, yes.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@JunkTop
Berserker Kintoki I mean

askme
askme

@TurtleCat
In Math, you say everything as if you're autistic, because like autists, your language for expressing things correctly is very limited.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@SomethingNew
I once had a situation when one of my last cards in a 10-roll had the 3* archer back (silver), but then transformed into gold and revealed Emiya. I assume that's the mechanic at work.

Evilember
Evilember

@CouchChiller
she wants to see (you) try

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Methnerd
It's only the stats, Gil has better skills and the highest hitcount on his attacks.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Methnerd

Altera is shit-tier right now and is mediocre tier after her interludes and strengthenings after 1 year.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@takes2long
if I ever do pull her, she's going right into the fire.
Jeanne alter is a limited servant with no other servants or limited CEs in her rate up
I don't think you thought that one through, user

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Post that one friend who, for whatever reason, impresses you the most

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Snarelure
Stun chance

He can ignore defense

His NP does more damage if you use his first skill and he can charge his own NP

He still has way worse survivability, however.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Flameblow
I did the 10 AP monster hunting daily 4 times or so for the master mission and got 4 fangs along the way.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Dreamworx
What I'm impressed by is his skills. Those are really high.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@StrangeWizard
I'll put you in the fire too.

@Carnalpleasure
Pretty sure she shows up in one of those paid quartz banners too, so if she spooks me, she fries.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Dreamworx
I confess I'm actually surprised.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Post more snek.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Dreamworx
5/7 asterios
wew lad

Emberburn
Emberburn

Imaginary around or heaven's feel?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Snarelure
50% NP Charge and +50% attack buff skills.
Basically he can start fights by just shitting on people with his NP right away if he uses one of the various event CEs that give him 50% gauge+something else that's beneficial to him.
His NP ignores defense buffs and has chance to stun.
His issue is that he has no survivability besides a 3k heal.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Stark_Naked
Pretty sure she shows up in one of those paid quartz banners too,
she doesnt

whereismyname
whereismyname

@TurtleCat
1) this is how rolls work
2) this is what happens if you single roll
3) this is what other people are saying
4) but it's not what I'm saying
it's not really more longwinded than saying all that in english would be, it's just that english speech would skip straight to #4 b/c that's how language works

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

new thread when

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Emberburn
lmao what is this cuck even talking about

Techpill
Techpill

@Spazyfool
@iluvmen
It's ok if I take this two and try my best to make a harem?
I would do the same for the Jannus but then I remember I should not lewd the saints.

Evilember
Evilember

@Emberburn
The fact he needs golem testicles kinda kills my motivation to ascend him.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Boy_vs_Girl
I had a dream Saberlot broke into some ladies house, locked himself inside, and then got beat up by a dog.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@kizzmybutt
beat up by a dog
Blue dog, blue dog (younger), blue dog (magic) or black dog?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@kizzmybutt
Well, Cu DOES beat the shit out of him so you're not too far off.

massdebater
massdebater

@kizzmybutt
I had a dream

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Spamalot
Black dog beating Saberlot
jerking off is gross

DeathDog
DeathDog

Can someone link me the NA gacha simulation roller? Tried google and I can only find the japanese one.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@DeathDog
https://grandorder.gamepress.gg/summon-simulator

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@DeathDog
https://grandorder.gamepress.gg/summon-simulator

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Dreamworx
@Boy_vs_Girl
This guy played on JP. Asterios is a serious investment that will pay off

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@DeathDog
even wanting to roll in a simulation
My God, what has the gacha done?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@King_Martha
Well then it will never become an issue then

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Fuzzy_Logic
This guy played on JP
You, on the other hand, clearly never have

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Lunatick
no they're not, go look at the mats that asterios needs for his skills. it's the easiest shit in the universe.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Fuzzy_Logic
one fight
serious investment
lol

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Techpill
not lewding saints
come on user, they are asking for it

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

how fucked am i guys?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@BlogWobbles
I hope you're rich.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Flameblow
same user
waste a gold apple out of frustration
get one the next quest
get two more the next
This shit is fucking rigged I swear.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

getting triggered when Kiyo is killed so hard, I instant use the NP on the one who killed her
Seriously, I need to work on this part or else I may lose a lot of NP whenever Kiyo or Nito (when she eventually comes) gets killed when battling.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@BlogWobbles
Cut out about 3/4 of those and maybe you have a chance

Emberburn
Emberburn

@TalkBomber
@PurpleCharger

According to this, if I buy 150 quartz I will always get at least two kscope as well as 2-3 5* and 4*s. Rolled a couple dozen times.

I have EX luck but I'm not sure I can trust a simulator. Kscope is the only thing I need.

TechHater
TechHater

@BlogWobbles
About $40000.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@lostmypassword
I'm relying on neetbux to get my girls, I get $1200 a month

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

/vg/thread/185891676#p185891676
/vg/thread/185891676#p185891676
/vg/thread/185891676#p185891676
freshly baked

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Emberburn
I rolled with how many quartz I have and got everything I wanted on the sim, I hate this

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Flameblow

$1200

Hope you're ready for NP5 Atalante.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@LuckyDusty
I like bears so i'll be going for it.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Methnerd
fug

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@MPmaster
Caring about spoilers

You have to be over 18 to post here, you know.

likme
likme

@Fuzzy_Logic
what the fuck happened?
He got gud

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