/tekgen/ - Tekken General

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Previous thread: /vg/thread/185822446#p185822446

= NEWS =
Tekken World Tour Announced
http://tk7.tekken.com/news/tekken-world-tour-announced
Ultimate Tekken Bowl trailer
https://youtu.be/-BaJENh1Irs
Geese Howard DLC trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MK2TKFFtQA
New Panel Art as Free DLC
http://gematsu.com/2017/07/tekken-7-teams-renowned-artists-game-panel-art-due-free-dlc-september
Eliza and Taiko no Tatsujin DLC
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/07/28/eliza-taiko-no-tatsujin-dlc-join-tekken-7

= BASIC INFORMATION =
Notation
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/legend.php
Fergus' character overviews
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/
Frame data for every character
http://rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/
Top 15 moves for all characters
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/
T7 Character Information Compilation
https://docs.google.com/document/d/139rPKrNc0nYHm2SmEa9Wy6LE7ps_2C0akOD4BQrmN2Q

= TUTORIAL VIDEOS FOR NEW PLAYERS =
How to Approach 3D Fighting Games
https://youtu.be/p7Ar-RctqyU
Korean Backdash Cancel (KBD)
https://youtu.be/gLp3Y0PdV94
Button Buffering
https://youtu.be/38iJWsjc_w8
Options at the wall
https://youtu.be/2SW7kCmA23o
How to get off the ground
https://youtu.be/j-PDc20Jezg
https://youtu.be/11oZkTYI6Rs
Low parrying
https://youtu.be/SF2wBESs01U
Oki/Tech Trap
https://youtu.be/LYqbvQljTw0
Throw Breaking
https://youtu.be/m4em9HzrwFI
Wavedash
https://youtu.be/xMtFCy8LreM
Wavedash/Backdash on pad
https://youtu.be/fU5Ji23k4LU
Combo video playlist for each character
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n
Combo video playlist for each character
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n

All urls found in this thread:
http://tk7.tekken.com/news/tekken-world-tour-announced
https://youtu.be/-BaJENh1Irs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MK2TKFFtQA
http://gematsu.com/2017/07/tekken-7-teams-renowned-artists-game-panel-art-due-free-dlc-september
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/07/28/eliza-taiko-no-tatsujin-dlc-join-tekken-7
http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/legend.php
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yqgxbES6su4clpQou2hzlZN40rpPBtwmMRKWfexbj3g/
http://rbnorway.org/t7-frame-data/
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/
https://docs.google.com/document/d/139rPKrNc0nYHm2SmEa9Wy6LE7ps_2C0akOD4BQrmN2Q
https://youtu.be/p7Ar-RctqyU
https://youtu.be/gLp3Y0PdV94
https://youtu.be/38iJWsjc_w8
https://youtu.be/2SW7kCmA23o
https://youtu.be/j-PDc20Jezg
https://youtu.be/11oZkTYI6Rs
https://youtu.be/SF2wBESs01U
https://youtu.be/LYqbvQljTw0
https://youtu.be/m4em9HzrwFI
https://youtu.be/xMtFCy8LreM
https://youtu.be/fU5Ji23k4LU
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDzNGonyeoUtBqYuqku0QqNwk2mcSlV_n
http://poal.me/412kn4
https://www.youtube.com/user/rkaekw
https://youtu.be/2F328-0mCys
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWoORw17NRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtwwejuRAx8
https://www.twitch
https://www.twitch
SniperGod
SniperGod

I wish katarina was good. I think her harrier stance is fly as fuck

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Mishima

viagrandad
viagrandad

http://poal.me/412kn4
Leo is a ___

whereismyname
whereismyname

@viagrandad
broken character

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

How is this ninja not a round down for waiting until halfway through a round to say his buttons arent working. There's a goddam button check on character select.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

made it to warrior feelsgoodman whorerang final boss

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Stupidasole
How do your buttons not work? Bullshit

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

lose to some dumb string ive never seen before until i figure out how to punish it
rinse and repeat for literally every match

how many years before this game gets fun

likme
likme

playing kazuya is really rough
feels like hes missing moves

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Evil_kitten
fighting games are never fun user

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Evil_kitten
Nothing gets better for retards

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@likme
That's just mishimas. They get wave dash memes but not much else

massdebater
massdebater

@Evil_kitten

You are supposed to learn stuff and get better instead of perpetually losing to the same thing.

Even if you played against a new character every game by the time you come around to the first character again you shouldn't be seeing anything new to gimmick you.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@massdebater

it seems as though you did not fully read the post you responded to, please try again

w8t4u
w8t4u

killing paul with leo's mini-deathfist
i love it

Inmate
Inmate

@Spazyfool
I usually play heihachi and he has pretty much everything you'd want, aside from maybe a normal hopkick

Inmate
Inmate

@Inmate
Well heihachi is really good

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Honestly I'm so fucking frustrated I don't even know what to do. I just recently got to Yellow and I'm just now noticing how much better at the game I need to get. I picked up some easy characters to get some better fundamentals but all I keep getting beat by Grandmaster and Brawler scrubs. I'm not much better but I can only cringe every time I lose to yet another Asuka, Ling, or Dragunov.

Illusionz
Illusionz

reply to previous thread

A secondary character is highly suggested. While it is true that when you stick to one character you learn the game exponentially faster, you're more resilient of a player, you perform better etc. at a certain point you get burned out on playing the same character.

This is when you want to start learning a secondary main in the same way you learned your first one, by going through the moves and slowly acquiring a basis for the character. Then, when you go back to your old main you will play 10x better, for some reason. Partly because you're refreshed but also since you learned continuously about the game you return to your old main with a new set of skills, more crisp timing. It is highly suggested so that you won't get burnt out. That said if you take time away from your main, you will probably be a bit rustier, but I think only negligibly so. For example when I returned to Sergei after learning a second main, I could do his 10 hit combo more consistently.

Different reply
He (Sergei Dragunov) is still tough to beat, don't get me wrong. But characters in Tekken aren't designed to be nice and friendly to each other. They are designed to frustrate the opponent.

You have to respect Sergei's dash attacks because they are fast and knockdown and are safe. And the triple dash one (Russian Assault) hits grounded opponents. The double dash one can be converted into a throw as well. I read somewhere that, basically, when Sergei is on the offensive it's hard to get out, but if he is on the d he himself struggles. But he has parries and shit which are noob but hardly anyone chickens. I still enjoy rushing people down as Sergei, and I hardly use launchers, only his uf3 iirc which is a hopping punch which has a little juggle state.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@PurpleCharger
losing to gm and brawler as yellow
you sound really fundamentally unsolid

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@BinaryMan

I did and that's why I put in the second line.

He can even go to practice and learn a character at his own discretion.

90% of everyones moves responding with stand block and jab punish works. Then you can move up your punishers until you get blocked. No frame data or icky learning required.

The only things you have to worry about are reactable lows, + on block moves, and strings that can open you up while standing. There usually aren't many good ones either.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@BunnyJinx
@PurpleCharger
I learned the game as Nina. So I got pretty far without needing anything other than Execution. So now that I'm playing characters based more on Fundamentals I'm just getting irritated that it feels like I don't have the tools to stop the memes I've seen time and time before. It's so mentally tasking to play against Asuka for example because literally any fuckup means I lose the round or the game from a launch. With Nina I could pressure people before they had time to even think about doing party shit.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Anybody watching summer jam on twitch right now? These players are horrible, it's insane.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@TurtleCat
don't have the tools to stop fundamentals
fundamentals are memes
Go

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Illusionz
Solid advice. Thanks.
1-5: Secondary Nina
6-0: Secondary Master Raven.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@TurtleCat
yeah i imagine its really hard to get used to not mashing a bunch of unsafe shit that most people dont know how to fight in favor of more commonly seen things

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

buy Tekken 7 since the cover promised an epic conclusion to the Mishima saga
the story mode was beyond garbage
arcade mode is bare bones
treasure battle gets old fast
online takes years of studying frame data and learning every character before you can rack up wins

Yes I know I am a retard for buying a fighting game for the single player content but god fucking damn is this game a step back from the older titles.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I had a dream that Lucky Chloe exclusively used axe kicks.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Harmless_Venom
1. You're really implying
2. Twisting my words around isn't the way you win a "discussion"
Are you Lucifer or some shit?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@StrangeWizard
Lmao you're the mashing tard getting upset at fundamentals. Go away

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@TalkBomber
you can always go online and mash dumb shit and not give a fuck like most players

Nojokur
Nojokur

@TalkBomber
Yes I know I am a retard for buying a fighting game for the single player content but
but
No but.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@cum2soon
Mashing a whole bunch of Unsafe shit that people don't know how to defend
Gee I wonder how to WS2 punish
Gee I wonder how to block
Gee I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about
A good Nina is definitely scary, but you sound like you're talking out your ass.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@BunnyJinx
Doesn't really do it for me, might as well just stick to treasure battles if I'm not going to give a fuck

Soft_member
Soft_member

It's much better to not play just a secondary but straight up as many characters as you can.

Well firstly because it's an immense help for even fighting said character. You'll understand gimmicks better, you'll understand frame data better, you'll understand the choices they make better.

Secondly you'll find that characters are vastly similar but have little differences across them. You'll learn fundamentals this way because you will have to have a solid base to play more and more characters.

Thirdly you'll find out which tools you like. Ch fishing? Poking? 50/50 game? Whiff punishing? Set up play? Etc etc

Most Koreans play the whole roster as do most top players. It seems that only westerners limit themselves to a main or a select base of characters. Rip for example plays law and some Paul. He's one of America's top players but he doesn't compare much to some Koreans. Daddyking/Lumen Reber is my favorite Korean player and he plays the whole roster 100% at a high level. These are 2 extreme examples but I believe daddyking is far more superior than Rip just because Rip limits himself to specializing Law.

Currently I play 8 characters at a level where I can fight anyone with them and feel comfortable. Some are better than others. I aim to eventually play the whole roster and try my best to bring them to vanquisher/genbu. I believe there are more benefits in playing more characters than I listed but there can only be positivity gained from playing more characters than one.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@hairygrape
Doesn't do anything other than imply implications
Insult and try to play it off with "lmao"
Low IQ
Everything checks out

takes2long
takes2long

@Nude_Bikergirl
I don't owe you anything. Just drop the game like you were going to anyway

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Boy_vs_Girl
id be in denial too thinking i was decent since i got to yellow but oh wait you cant even beat blues and greens with another character but wait all that shit you quoted literally applies to all characters?????? hmmmmmmmmm

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Soft_member
Daddyking/Lumen Reber
Literal who

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Bidwell
There was a pretty good Nina there, don't know his name. Fab was also there.
Other than that they're mostly shit

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Sir_Gallonhead
No problem. Wish I could give good advice on more technical aspects, but I can only give good advice generally speaking. I defer to youtubers for more technical stuff.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Illusionz
Actualy how some palyers stoped dragunovs fff+2 was using dash attack of their own, sometimes powercrush or otherwise crushy & fast.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@TurtleCat
learn to chicken to bait out universal parries

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@TurtleCat
having your whiff punished is party shit
Can't make this shit up

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Soft_member
I used to play Mokujin in the previous games. He was so much fun. I'll never forgive Harada for not including him in 7 at launch

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

It's Kazuya/Paul/Leo
Guess wrong and get 50/50'd
gg ez kid

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Sharpcharm
Here dude

https://www.youtube.com/user/rkaekw

He's famous in the Korean community for his commentary while playing. Even tho i don't understand Korean, I learn A LOT from his gameplay. Since he plays everyone u get to see how his tactics change running up the ranks all the way from blue to purple/gold.

I don't play PC but I believe he should be one of the top players in ranked right now.

Right as tag 2 ended he had a ft10 with knee and lost 10/9. He's also had long sets with jdcr and was able to keep up. He's great!!

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@TalkBomber
u dont need frame data or any such shit to go stomping online. you need to learn one character and some fundamentals and thats it. Because you only need to outsmart the opponent once to win a round. Find a character you like, learn him, start stomping. It's really that simple. Frame data is helpful but not needed. You just need some bread and butter shit and good execution at first. Don't expect to win 100% of the time either because you can still get outsmarted.

5mileys
5mileys

@Soft_member
I think you should have a main. There's just too much depth, matchup specific stuff, situational combos and whatnot to play everyone when you're trying hardest to win. Plus you won't have the muscle memory for those clutch situations. Sure, play everyone a little bit to learn more about them but you won't do well in tournaments like that.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Caster calling Leo a woman
lel

WebTool
WebTool

@TurtleCat
A huge part that you're missing is character unfamiliarity. It wouldn't be a stretch to say you were the only Nina that all of your opponents have fought. Pressing buttons against Dragunov #1649 is a lot easier and more comfortable compared to pressing buttons some character you've never seen before just doing stuff.

Now is this your fault? Of course not. It's actually a good thing since this is a competitive game, but it could be the reason for all your frustration.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@5mileys
Main or not I feel like you should seriously play everyone before landing on a main. I've played Bryan as a main for a long time. Thousands and thousands of games but these days I find Leo to fit more of a "main" discription. And I only played ~150 games with her. Just because her play style and tools have given me what I want in a character. But still I wouldn't identify with Leo as my main because currently I have none.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Evil_kitten
Her b3 crushes lows and is super awkward to punish unless it's blocked deep
Her lows sweeps crush highs and mids
F2 crushes highs while also being unreactable
Panic parry after she does a string
Great armor move
Great panic moves in general
I cannot believe people think Asuka is in any way shape or form not obnoxious to play against. On top of all the bullshit she has its criminal how much damage she does especially with a wall.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Soft_member
If you've been playing Tekken since Tekken 3 then it might be ok to play a lot of characters but imo you should always have one main guy who you try to learn all his moves good and bad, safe \unsafe. You get more fulfillment out of the game and if you know every character at a cursory glance, someone with even a little knowledge of a character will be able to wipe the floor with you.

Plus for some people this is their first Tekken. You and I have probably been playing for awhile so we have already a ton of hours playing as Hwoarang, Eddy Gordo, Jin, Steve etc. For someone like me trying all the characters is less of an ordeal than a new player. And I still try to stick to 1-2 characters because I prefer to learn them completely. That said you could be right. At least for match ups it is a good idea to try each character. From my experience though you are more resilient when you stick to one character since you have a variety of options at different ranges.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@hairygrape
idk that i agree with sinking most of your time into one character as a lot of charas in this game have the same types of moves (by the frames) and its especially good to try out the more unorthodox characters so you know what they do as well

TreeEater
TreeEater

@King_Martha
I think countering Russian Sickle\Assault with dash attacks is a great idea. But I don't see many players utilizing dash attacks as much as Sergei. But yeah I agree stuffing his dash attacks with a better timed\spaced dash attack is what I would do. That said a good Sergei player could switch to his double dash left kick which has more range and is slower. I'm no expert though. Dash attacks imo are under utilized.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Ignoramus
conversely if you guess right you win the round basically

not sure what the problem is

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Stark_Naked
Asuka is not good. Go cry elsewhere

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Emberburn
Maybe against Paul, but Leo is not realy that risky.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Stark_Naked

She has complete trash block punishers and no pressure. She has to rely on crushing and whiff punishing which is hard if your opponent has a brain and doesn't just throw shit out for fun. Her pressure is terrible and everything she does is slow so she is very weak when she is down on life. You can just turtle against her.

massdebater
massdebater

@Emberfire
asuka is actually decent? not whine worthy but pretty good

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Stark_Naked
Great armor move
Duck.

Asuka's damage is pretty average.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

see a lee style on some people
hop into practice mode and look for some combos involving mist step
nah no thanks, would rather play nina

Playboyize
Playboyize

/vg/thread/185822446#p185884568
would asuka be good pocket character for a lili main?

StonedTime
StonedTime

promo match against jin
win
next game is another promo for me and a demo for him
win
loose something like 5 straight
promo for him
win
doesn't go for the revenge match
Why do I always play better when salt is on the line.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Triple barcode asuka I don't want to play you anymore t.yoshimitsu

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

0-4 Kazuya
5-9 Heihachi

farquit
farquit

@haveahappyday
If you can do Nina's shit Lee will be ezpz for you

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Sir_Gallonhead
grandpa a best tekken

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

I'm 16dan and this game is still the same fucking shit as in blue ranks. People just press whatever buttons regardless of what the other player is doing until its over one way or the other.

So fucking boring. I thought it would be better by now.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Stark_Naked
look up how to do a chicken

universal parry is a noob move and learning to chicken will make it a non-issue.

complaining about a universal parry is really noob. Punch only\specific side parries are a dangerous though because you cant chicken them.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

try to pick up Bob to be a hipster
80% of his movelist is worthless gimmicky strings that don't combo and aren't actual mixups

am i missing something here

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Stupidasole
Don't worry Bob is well ROUNDED character.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Stupidasole
SPEED

FastChef
FastChef

@Stupidasole
Most characters' strings aren't true combos.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Flameblow
AND

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@RavySnake
wait

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Crazy_Nice
what platform?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@StonedTime
because the person is too frustrated to be able to focus on fundamentals, whereas a unsalty opponent you need to beat much more honestly, which can be very tough

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Stupidasole

Saying universal parries suck because of chickens is like saying grabs suck because you can break them.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

15-fight deathmatch with a Xiaoyu with whom I was more or less evenly skilled
only end it because I really have to take a dump

Fuck, that was the first time I've had actual FUN in this game for a while. I'd like to thank that Xiaoyu on the off chance that you're in here.

massdebater
massdebater

show u better than i can tell you bruv man gigas is sikc character bruv you know what im saying this isa basicguide notadvanced ohmydayss

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Garbage Can Lid

Having fun against a xiaoyu

They must have been terrible

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@haveahappyday
You must be terrible

DeathDog
DeathDog

@MPmaster
perhaps you're right but that guy who first posted said that he has no problem playing 8 characters but that's because he's already been playing those characters for 10 years since Tekken 3 most likely. I think if you really like a character time sinking into them is not a bad idea. You can still try the other characters in a cursory way but at the same time you can compete with people a little by having a more resilient playstyle on your main. And having a secondary character is good too so you don't get burnt out. And slowly expand out. That's how I prefer to do it but I've been playing Tekken since 3 so a lot of the more superficial things i'm familiarized with already. I've already played a ton of Hwoarang, and Steve playing with them I'm not half bad even if I don't main them. That's how I prefer to learn the game and it works for me. Perhaps for a nooby it would be better to try each character and learn the game that way, but I think you learn faster when you sink into one character.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@cum2soon
Yeah I pull out some Dragunov bullshit to get them shook.

likme
likme

@Garbage Can Lid
whom
whom'st

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@likme
whom'st've'd

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Stark_Naked
kek

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Stupidasole
yea a brain lmao

hairygrape
hairygrape

Behind one door is your waifu/husbando. Behind one door is an ancient, agelessTekken master who will train you for as long as you want him to. And behind one door is Kazuya, ready to hellsweep you.

Do you choose to open a door?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@hairygrape
mid

farquit
farquit

Anybody else getting communication errors mid match and getting sent back to the main menu? Its been happening to me for a little while and I don't see anybody else talking about it

happy_sad
happy_sad

@hairygrape
2 of the doors are Kazuya?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@StonedTime
once you learn to chicken universal parries are literally useless whereas throws will always have a place as a fundamental mix up that will land if the opponent is too afraid to press buttons. If you are so concerned about the Asuka match up you can chicken all your attacks.

likme
likme

@hairygrape

The idea of Kazuya come flying out of a door like a beyblade is funny enough for me to risk it.

hairygrape
hairygrape

no one mentioning the silver fire hydrant

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@farquit

I have intermittent connection errors, yes. More often than I used to. I've also had a few disconnects on the screen which shows the opponent and the stage which I sort of assumed were the other player pulling the plug when they saw Eliza, whom I'm trying to learn

5mileys
5mileys

@hairygrape
I peak through the hole in the first door, assuming I can see it's not my waifu I pick door 2 in case kazuya attempts to hellsweep me he'll only bang his leg on the fire hydrant. While he's holding his leg in pain like an absolute fucking doofus I open the remaining door and take Asuka home to share with lili

give me a hard one

takes2long
takes2long

@New_Cliche
thats funny because I'm a Sergei play as well. I love his death march to takedown, his Russian Assault\Russian Sickle (ff3, fff3) his sidestep spinning backfist into takedown. So many cool tools. People really seem to get frustrated and breakdown when you start reading them correctly as Sergei.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

/vg/thread/185822446#p185900907
How does jerking off affect testosterone
I jerk off all the time and do stupid shit

5mileys
5mileys

@hairygrape
Trick question. The correct answer is to open all the doors available to you.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Anyone got any tips on coming abck to speed after not playing for a while?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@takes2long
I like to pull out the d/f3 or whatever that fake kick throw is

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@PurpleCharger
Broscience

King_Martha
King_Martha

Denying a Paul his promotion last game

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@King_Martha
Fuck forget to ss my captcha but it was "Beware Zone"

viagrandad
viagrandad

I knew that playing 2000 games would unlock all customization pieces, but I didn't know it would also give all of them to you for free. I'm not complaining, of course, but what am I going to do with my hundred and fifty million Harada funbucks?

massdebater
massdebater

@viagrandad
I just used the trainer. Glorious.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Can any of you Bryan players tell me if there is anything I can do to make this combo better?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Emberburn
go to a wall stage and add a wallsplat combo

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Emberburn
fb2 ff4 dash ws 3,4 ff2 does 74 I think, may be wrong

5mileys
5mileys

Man, Hwoarang's power crush is such fucking bullshit. Fuck the retard who thought that was a good idea.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Garbage Can Lid
dash attacks they are good bro use em

massdebater
massdebater

@5mileys
they just need to increase the recovery frames on that move on whiff. it is nigh impossible to duck launch punish that move even if you know its coming.

Methshot
Methshot

@Flameblow
What's a good wallsplat combo for Bryan?

@Fuzzy_Logic
Seems like it doesn't

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Methshot
Do either b3~f3,4 ff2 or iws3,4 1 ff2

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Methshot
my bad, can you do a different ender after the ws 3,4? instead of ff2

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@PurpleCharger
ill give u the most useful advice youll ever get get in these threads: if you are mulling something over irl jerk off and think it over again and youll find the right answer quickly

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Fuzzy_Logic
I think its 73.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@PurpleCharger
As far as I know your testosterone levels actually raise for a short time after jerking off. After that they fall rather quickly. This probably makes the other user calmer and less likely to risk shit.

askme
askme

@Harmless_Venom
Will do

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Spamalot
Thanks

@ZeroReborn
I found d3,2 that does the same amount of damage and is a bit easier to land imo.
There also qcb+4 that does more damage but it's not guarenteed

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

are there any waifus that are focused on strong punishes and good pokes?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@CouchChiller
Alisa

Inmate
Inmate

@ZeroReborn
If you have rage you can also land a RA instead of ff2 for 88 damage

FastChef
FastChef

@Methshot
that combo
Wow what a braindead character lol

eGremlin
eGremlin

@FastChef
doing any combo with muscle memory requires brainpower

Supergrass
Supergrass

Guys I have a problem as a new player.

I've watched/read a ton of KBD tutorials, and though they all say the notation is
b,n,b,d/b [n b,d/b,b] ...
they all say that the stick should hit back after downback as you release it to neutral, and I can't figure out how to make it a triangular motion like in the ATP video, but what happens is either I get
d,d/b,n
or
d,d/b, d n
and then I get a sidestep.

Is there some trick I'm missing to releasing the stick properly? Some way I can consistently let it roll of my thumb or something?

happy_sad
happy_sad

how do you fight Eddie he's so fucking annoying

Inmate
Inmate

@eGremlin
It's like 4 hits off a simple launch

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Firespawn
Trying to make a hot or very cool looking Asuka.
Even though she has the assets, its kinda very hard to do.

Anyone with ideas?

massdebater
massdebater

@lostmypassword
Someone posted a Misty cosplay from pokemon last thread. Was pretty cute.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@lostmypassword
just use the workout top and her outfit 1 shorts like all the pervs

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@lostmypassword
i like the miko stuff
otherwise i just kinda use a purple/white recolor of her older costume. and i made an snsd costume

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Inmate
so?
an 8 button combo takes the same amount of thinking as a 4 button combo
character strategy has nothing to do with how long your combo is, go back to anime fighters

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Supergrass
unless you're playing a backsway character just do a reverse wavedash and you've just master backdash cancelling, just make sure to hold back throughout the animation or you'll get hit while backdashing

Booteefool
Booteefool

@MPmaster
I would do this if it was possible.

@Deadlyinx
Kinda standard but it is a bit cool yeah.

@haveahappyday
Too Easy.

@massdebater
Anyone have this?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Booteefool
You can get close

askme
askme

@Supergrass
also if you are playing a backsway character, you're gonna have to learn it the hard way

i'm not sure if this is the optimal way but this is how i do "clean" backdashing
b,b,d/b,b n b,d/b,b n etc etc

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Cuddle core streams on yt huh

takes2long
takes2long

@massdebater
@Booteefool
So I tried and this is what came out.

I don't think anyone would actually get it..

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Booteefool
Anyone have this?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@takes2long
its been done

Skullbone
Skullbone

@eGremlin
@Booteefool
From previous thread

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Skullbone
Forget the asuka, wario bob is a perfect fit. I'm maining Bob now.
Gimme Bob tips. I already know speed and weight

viagrandad
viagrandad

I know this game doesn't really have zoners or anything, but what character would be good for someone who likes Dhalsim and FANG in SF?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@viagrandad
Jack, Feng, Akuma

Methnerd
Methnerd

@viagrandad
Jack, Yoshimistu, Asuka

hairygrape
hairygrape

It seems Asuka is too much of an Tomboy to be made sexy.

I guess only grills like Eliza, Katarina or Lili are able to distract some people.

5mileys
5mileys

@hairygrape
Those girls are gross

idontknow
idontknow

@hairygrape
lili is too skinny

girlDog
girlDog

@hairygrape
nina and kazumi distract me

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Methnerd
Yoshimistu
Not really. Unless you think yoga flame is like a stance
asuka
Now I just don't think you have ever played sim or fang

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Spazyfool
Feng... now that I might just try out. Thanks!

Nojokur
Nojokur

@5mileys
I want to impregnate katarina

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Crazy_Nice
Yoshi has that non-standard play style, just like Fang does. Asuka is a defensive keep out character, which is about as close as you get to zoning in Tekken.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@5mileys
Are you gay?

@idontknow
Lili is sex user.

Techpill
Techpill

Should I play Lars, Alisa or some other character with a heavy fundamentals focus?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Dreamworx
Kat is a trashy old hoochie mama
Lili is best of the 3 but her face is all fugged up
Eliza has retarded horns

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Techpill
play bears

eGremlin
eGremlin

@eGremlin
he doesn't like horny hotties

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Techpill
Why does everyone keep saying lars is fundamental?
His pokes are bad and he dashes all over the place breaking traditional movement fundamentals. He also crushes so much you can slip on defensive positioning etc.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Methnerd
my favorite meme is when people compare lars to ryu

SniperGod
SniperGod

@eGremlin
A yes would have been enough.

5mileys
5mileys

@eGremlin
not wanting to fuck this mouth
you must be one of these gays I've been hearing about

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Stark_Naked
fergus' guide in the op says that
is it wrong
is lars more like the alex of tekken because he sucks really bad

girlDog
girlDog

who is the highest iq character of tekken 7

and when are they adding lei

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Raving_Cute
hey wait a minute

@Stark_Naked
Pretty much why I was interested in him as I'm a shoto guy in 2D games, but want to switch it up from Akuma or Eliza. I didn't really get it either, but figured it might be true later on or something.

girlDog
girlDog

@girlDog
M. Raven

Hopefully, never.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Nojokur
She wants to impregnate you

Nojokur
Nojokur

@New_Cliche
Eddy is similar to Alex a bit, but not a bad character. He's not a grappler but he combines good, long keepout pokes with up-close 50/50s. He's way different in that he has a lot of stance based mixups that crush certain moves, and has some unique mobility options.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@eGremlin
Actually that makes a fair amount of sense to me (who you recommended the character to). A lot of what was fun about FANG was that he was unconventional and had fun and unexpected tools, seems like Yoshi fits that bill well.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@eGremlin
I'm fine with that

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@girlDog
Fuck you. This is your first tekken why would you even hate a classic character?

Methnerd
Methnerd

Win 1 match
Quit
Think you are the shit

I seriously hope you guy don't do this.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@girlDog
Honestly, Alisa if played properly.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@TalkBomber
It's not my first fighting game. Capoeira and drunken boxing styles are always bullshit.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Methnerd
one time I did it against a shaheen for fun and went like "eat shit bitch" with a grin from ear to ear
I don't think he got any rounds on me but I got the "great" thing every time because I was on really low health
I usually stick around for quite a few rematches though

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Methnerd
Think you are the shit
How could you know this.
Pic is you

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Methnerd
I do it all the time, especially against annoying characters.

Bidwell
Bidwell

What's a good secondary to pick up with Kazuya being my main?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Evil_kitten
Capoeira
drunken boxing styles
Lei has one drunken master stance with a few moves. Nothing like what you described.
He has a few moves from prone but nothing like eddy.
You have never played with or against Lei. Please stop replying to me.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Methnerd
i do it all the time bc i know fags like you will get buttblasted and post shit like this lmao

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@kizzmybutt
Lmao luci btfo

Lunatick
Lunatick

@BunnyJinx
Nah I don't really care too much.
You just lose the opportunity to let me show you just how lucky you were and how I am going to absolutely shit on you henceforth.

Your lose?

@RavySnake
Did you ironically post like a handicapped retard to show just what kind of people do this? Good job.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Techpill
Play the robot!

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Lunatick
Your lose?
I don't think you should be calling others retarded.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

How did Armor King play compared to King? How likely is it that he will be added?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Lunatick
did u?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@ZeroReborn
I am sorry engrish is not my native language so sometimes I do mistakes like that.

But I think you perfectly understood what I mean?

WebTool
WebTool

Should I play Kuma or Yoshi? What will make people hate me less?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@WebTool
yosher

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

How do players like this unironically exist?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@TurtleCat
wow eddy looks fun
also how do you go about existing ironically

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@kizzmybutt
So you would find it acceptable for them to bring him back while removing that stance?

@TurtleCat
I feel the same way. I can't believe people play Eddie unironically.

Techpill
Techpill

@TurtleCat
eddy
chloe
786 win vanguard
rage quit off first round
Wow this has it all

Bidwell
Bidwell

What character do you find the most hype?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@TurtleCat
You mean the Chloe attacking the air all the time or the Eddy playing like a bitch?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@haveahappyday
Thank you, anonymous image board user. It is time to change my way from bear to yoshi

hairygrape
hairygrape

@LuckyDusty
He had a proper crouch dash with a ghetto wind god fist launcher and more of an emphasis on pokes over yolo mixups.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@hairygrape
That sounds really fun

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Bidwell
Jack

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@WebTool
Play Akuma.

Better yet buy SFV and play a better game

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Playboyize
I might play my Eddy like a bitch but I wouldn't try to press buttons after Chloe's powercrush on block, and then ragequit.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Stupidasole
I have SFV and thus know I'd rather play Tekken 7 than it. Do you really have a reason I should play Akuma over the characters I listed or are you just capcom memeing?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@LuckyDusty
Lost 12 times to Law for my first day in ranked, this is my first fighting game where losing can still be tons of fun!

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Soft_member
I think there is a tumor from /fgg/ that keeps coming here for (you)s

farquit
farquit

@girlDog
NAMU NAMU MOTHERFUCKER

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Flameblow
That makes sense. I'm just a poor lad who has problems deciding on a main and these /fgg/cucks keep trying to reel my back to play Jive. Not happening

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Soft_member
Because you can get rich by selling the sodium of the collective kekken fanbase when you beat them with a 2D character and they don't know how to counter him. Also safe unblockable rage art

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@farquit
tekken 7 yoshi isnt nearly as cool though

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@WebTool
yoshimitsu is by far the most fun character in all of fighting games so if you wanna be batshit crazy and confuse the fuck out of people pick him

cum2soon
cum2soon

@TreeEater
Also safe unblockable rage art
*uf4's you*

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Crazy_Nice
tekken 7
i just meant tekken yoshi

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Flameblow
anybody who doesn't eat Harada's shit is an FGG cuck
You kekkens are predictabo

@TreeEater
Don't listen to that retard, either main Akuma or Geese when he comes out they are the only interesting characters in kekken anyway

Flameblow
Flameblow

@TreeEater
safe Rage
Wut? You can just jump raging demon then punish it with a WS launcher.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Harmless_Venom
I think I'll take that advice. I've been playing Bears since release but am starting to feel a bit uh... constrained by their move-set. Am I going to be totally fucked playing Yoshi since he's "high IQ" or will I be fine so long as I take the character piece by piece?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Deadlyinx
So you just like to talk annoying for reactions and call others "kekkens" but you do play the game too

eGremlin
eGremlin

@cum2soon
Doesn't work you just hit by it kek

You can avoid it by jumping backwards but no punish

@Flameblow
Nope he recovers to quickly

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Deadlyinx
I don't really care about causing salt, I care about playing a character I find aesthetically pleasing that has plenty of depth for me to feel like I'm constantly improving. Perhaps unnfortunately for me, Kuma and Yoshi are the characters I like the look of most.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Soft_member
don't play Akuma, he's boring and doesn't fit with Tekken at all.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@BinaryMan
he takes a lot of getting used to, its all about knowing what to do in the situation or "whats the last thing this guy will expect" its less about combos and more about mind games and shenanigans, but theres always something you can do
basically just try to meme people to death but its always fun while you do it

viagrandad
viagrandad

@eGremlin
You don't have to jump back. Just jump straight up. When you land you are in crouch for a short time and can do a while standing move.

5mileys
5mileys

@BinaryMan
Yoshi
high IQ
Doesn't belong in the same sentence. Characters with incredible depth and little to no gimmicks are high IQ, (think Steve, Heihachi, Nina) Yoshi's entire gameplan relies on gimmicks and he falls apart at higher ranks unless your name is Shouchan or Eyemusician.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

185943205

You're just wrong bro, I'm pretty sure you are trollbait so I'm just gonna filter you. Buh-bye.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@5mileys
You're confusing "IQ" with "Honesty."

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@5mileys
this entire post

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@5mileys
@StrangeWizard
Conflicting messages here. I am drawn to Yoshi's design and variety, but the whole reason I've been thinking about changing my main from Kuma is I feel like my gameplan is too reliant on gimmicks that fall apart as soon as the opponent knows the match-up. But it also seems like Yoshi has decent vanilla tools like a his nice b2,2 that would be nice regardless of opponent knowledge.

TechHater
TechHater

@Sir_Gallonhead
"High IQ" entails Honesty and IQ. Difficulty + Honesty = High IQ

If you're character relies on gimmicks, you can never be high IQ.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@TechHater
Iq is a dumb meme. Nothing more

iluvmen
iluvmen

idk why theres dumb debates on whats high iq or not
high iq is picking jack or dragunov and winning all the tournament money and everything else is sadly low iq
thats the way it works peons like it or lump it

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Skullbone

Do you play Bryan by chance?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@BunnyJinx
dont get me wrong you can play him like every other character and just do bnb combos and basic shit but the whole point of yoshi is his unorthodox and wackyness and catching people off guard, no matter what level of play you get to theres always gonna be cracks in the armor that you can take advantage of
the real question is do you want to have fun if so play yoshi if you just want results just pick top tier

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@TechHater
@Stupidasole
I understand IQ is a meme. I only meant that Yoshi has a lot of moves and options compared to the rest of the cast, and was asking whether these options will significantly hinder me as a player of only two months. At the same time, I'd like a character who is potent even when your opponent understands your memes.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@TalkBomber
I do not. Why?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

oh boy its big saturday lets play some tekken good moods all around good vibes lets go
dragunov
leo
asuka

WebTool
WebTool

@RavySnake
Okay, I think this convinced me to go with Yoshi. If I can play with solid fundamentals while progressively adding on more fun moves and options to my game plan, that sounds like a great time. Not as if tiers really matter at my level, but I just want a character with depth

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Crazy_Nice
How about you learn the MU and learn to duck/ low parry strings.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@WebTool
Desu every tekken char has depth

likme
likme

@Crazy_Nice
you should jump off a cliff if you start imitating aris

Spamalot
Spamalot

@JunkTop
what do I look like a fucking computer? Its fucking hard, its much more fair if you let me dodge you

RavySnake
RavySnake

@iluvmen
simple Jack
high iq
KEK

WebTool
WebTool

@CodeBuns
Yeah, perhaps "depth" was a poor choice of words, I guess I just want a flexible and expanding game plan. It seems with bears I improve as I get better at whiff punishing/baiting, and that's about the end of the story. I'd like more ways to play, I guess

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Fuzzy_Logic
It's technically not a punish but it works almost every time online. That said, Raging Demon is still not safe and can be legitimately punished.

iluvmen
iluvmen

does every character have the ability to launch a knocked down opponent or just the broken ones like feng?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Spazyfool
Wave dash memes are really really good memes

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@iluvmen
broken ones like feng
broken like feng
broken feng
feng broken
broken
What did he mean by this?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@haveahappyday
only punish you get is a stun that you can either hold back to get up from or simply isn't a true combo in any circumstances anyway
You didn't really prove him wrong
Where is the WS punish? and you jumped back lel

iluvmen
iluvmen

So I am kinda trying to learn Asuka but how exactly am I supposed to play her?

For some reason I easily get shit on and nothing I do seems to go through?
Am I supposed to just spam her reversal?

idontknow
idontknow

@iluvmen
How does feng launch knocked down opponents

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Nude_Bikergirl
Holy shit there is a whole bunch of shopped images like this

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Bidwell
korean level mishimas in the clutch are always ass clenchingly hype

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@iluvmen
defensively

Methshot
Methshot

@Sharpcharm
@idontknow

idk man I just narrowly beat some feng who kept launching me while I was on the ground

eventually I stopped rolling and started kip upping because he would go for whatever bs move that was every damn time

if he were less predictable he would have beaten me

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@TalkBomber
But whenever I play against other Asukas they are always in front of me just pressing stuff?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Sniffs

Methnerd
Methnerd

@BinaryMan
punish when they are pressing buttons. asuka is horrible at dealing with people who turtle

askme
askme

@Nude_Bikergirl
I admitted that the WS launcher is not a true punish when you jump on reaction, but that it works almost every time online anyway.

I did prove him wrong because he said it was safe, and I proved that it was not safe.

I jumped straight up. There is only backwards movement because Akuma is pushing her back.

Also you have to press forward to break double over stuns, but most people aren't expecting them That isn't even the only punish. It is just one example.

massdebater
massdebater

@Methshot
either you're getting floated because your okizeme is terrible or you're being setup to get floated

in both scenarios just stay down or tech roll to avoid getting floated

backrolling or frontrolling is the worst thing you can do in an okizeme situation because you can get floated very easily

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@askme
most people aren't expecting them
More proof you play against a bunch of shitters in player match. Nobody cares what happens in little league camp

Snarelure
Snarelure

@massdebater
never heard of this term floated
but he would just kick me up from the ground and start the same combo all over again

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Deadlyinx
says the guy that thought Akuma's Rage was safe

w8t4u
w8t4u

@askme

@Flameblow
punish it with a WS launcher
@eGremlin
Nope he recovers to quickly
@viagrandad
When you land you are in crouch for a short time and can do a while standing move.

Don't try and backtrack now

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Supergrass
Not an argument. Not even the same guy. Keep moving those goal posts though.

Evilember
Evilember

Geez, I used to scoff at people saying that one combo could take away half your life but now I'm a believer.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Lucifer thinks there is only one person who dislikes his presence in the thread

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

why do the tier whores all come out on friday and saturday nights?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Lord_Tryzalot
Not even the same guy
Yes, he just happened to fade from existence, and you just happened to take over the argument for him at the exact same time with while typing with the same syntax coincidentally. Seems totally legit.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Evilember
Pretty much only Leo, Dragunov and Hwoarang can do this (barring the obvious shit that wouldn't work in a real match like slow unblockable launchers) and the rest of the cast need rage or insane Korean-tier excecution like multiple mishima electric combos and shit

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Snarelure
a float is when you get caught rolling and this leads to a combo, this is the worst case scenario in okizeme you want to avoid this

techroll is the safest because i-frames, although there are some knockdowns that prevent you from techrolling

in this scenario you either have to take a hit on the ground, thus resetting your downed state allowing you to techroll, or sideroll, or stay down, or get up straight

it just depends on the situation really, you'll eventually get a feel for which is the best option the more you play

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@hairygrape
Does Akuma count? I mean he does need a full bar, but still.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Back down to Expert again. I dont know what the fuck is going on with me. Against players that dont spam gimmicks I do just fine and can usually get a win but when I go against a King that spams alley kicks I have no idea what the fuck to do. I deserve this hell

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Evilember
https://youtu.be/2F328-0mCys

takes2long
takes2long

@lostmypassword
fade from existence
See @w8t4u

@eGremlin
and @Lord_Tryzalot
posted less than a minute apart, Detective Nonny on the case here to show nobody likes a tripfag with no purpose

Just stop embarrassing yourself.

@BinaryMan
Oh I forgot about him, yeah he can still get death combos with meter

Flameblow
Flameblow

@happy_sad
no idea what the fuck to do.
that's the problem. know what the fuck to do and then you'll start winning again. You shouldn't be focused on winning or rank anyway. Your focus should be on learning what the fuck to do.

askme
askme

people actually defend the rage system

lmao

Flameblow
Flameblow

Where's Anna?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@happy_sad
You're just stuck on the Intermediate Plateau. You'll just have to play more to advance. When you run into something you don't know how to deal with, heal to practice mode and test your options.

takes2long
takes2long

@askme
rage arts suck, but drives and the extra is ok

idontknow
idontknow

@CouchChiller
Dont talk to me

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Flameblow
Thanks. I suppose you're right.

@idontknow
Not me

@CouchChiller
Aren't I a similar level to you, though? I don't feel confident following advice from somebody who only seems to post webms of light blue rank fights.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Emberfire
Holy shit lucyfur got shutdown lmao

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@askme
@takes2long
yea rage arts feel like namcops trying to attract SFbabbies, rage drives are an excellent addition though

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Emberfire
He is, and he actually thinks that it's an """"intermediate"""" plateau and not a begginer plateau

Methshot
Methshot

Hit grandmaster tonight after probably 90ish wins hardstuck 3rd dan feels pretty good that I've gotten better, though I lost 4 in a row so I may demote tom. Also fuck you Bryan with 604 wins in gm

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@takes2long
I doesn't really bother me that much but how do you justify rage and rage drive
Like isn't it just rewarding someone for getting shit on

Nojokur
Nojokur

@takes2long
whoops extra damage* i feel the extra damage is pretty fair

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@askme
It's funny because the people that complain about it almost always talk shit about it while defending Ultras in SF. They also tend to think shit like Akuma's RA is unbeatable or unpunishable.

@Emberfire
I am currently on the plateau as well, yes.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Methshot
wow those are some really nice tummies
how could I go about finding the source of each image

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Methshot
was there a midriff thread on /a/ or something?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Methshot
One of these things is not like the other

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Flameblow
Yeah you're right. Need to spend more time labing out some of the bullshit that gets me more often than not.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Ignoramus
@Ignoramus
It might not be "unpunishable" but the risk vs reward is highly in the Akuma's favour. Good luck hitting that delayed stun punish in an online match, even if you do anybody who knows how to play the game will just tech the stun and eat the 25 damage. That's like just below your average 12f punish.

Whoreang's RA > HAkuma matata > Everyone else

whereismyname
whereismyname

@CouchChiller
Is the only boy there link or is there more

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@PackManBrainlure
@Dreamworx
Y-you're using a- a different ip or something

SniperWish
SniperWish

Ok maybe this sounds really autistic but does anybody else like to just kbd on their stick when the game is off and you're just using your computer
It's already next to me on my desk and I like how it feels
I might do it even more once my korean stick comes in the mail to help break it in

JunkTop
JunkTop

How do I hit 1+4 after f4 with Asuka?
I have been trying for a slid 15 minutes now and I am starting to get really annoyed.

Its f4, Dash, 1+4, etc
It whiffs without fail everytime no matter how I do it.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@SniperWish
break it in
This is what Americucks actually believe
This is why the roundeye will never be as good as the superior East-Asian master races.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Fried_Sushi
@Snarelure
@CouchChiller
Not too recently this is just want I've saved on my phone

TechHater
TechHater

@hairygrape
idk I just heard you sort of break them in
I've never owned a brand new lever
and I'm canadian

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@TechHater
American, leaf, yuropoor, you all look the same to me.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@StrangeWizard
I'm half flip

takes2long
takes2long

@TechHater

idk I just heard you sort of break them in

Ignore that guy. I've been using Korean sticks for years. Breaking them in is definitely a thing. They start off quite stiff.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Boy_vs_Girl
Not really. Unless they combo into the RA or catch you pressing buttons, It's free damage for you, and they only have like 40 HP left, at most, at that point so any damage they take is risky for them.

I didn't even take the time to look for an optimal punish. I was just looking to prove it was not safe.

Who Rang's is the only RA that feels a bit cheesy.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

How unsafe is each get up attack? Spring kick varies based on how deep/shallow it's blocked right?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@SniperGod

Who Rang's is the only RA that feels a bit cheesy.

I'm not quite sure I understand the rationale behind Hwo's RA and armour move. Why would they suddenly decide to give a character moves that break the rules established for every other character in the game?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@SniperGod
@Bidwell
Hwo's rage art is punishable at the wall and also he has to be in RFF stance to even use it so he cannot just panic button like you scrubs

Stop crying like the cucks you are and learn to block people who spam RA, they are free round wins. The people you should be even slightly worried about are the people who use rage drives correctly.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Nude_Bikergirl
Go into practice mode and tap the RA button with Who Rang.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Bidwell
@Lord_Tryzalot
Both the armor move and RA are easy to punish one, he has to be in left flamingo so if you block it he's defenseless and for the Armor move just bust out a counterhit when he is in RFF

He has to be in your face for his armor move to work anyways, so if you cant do keep away you're just a shitter

@Nude_Bikergirl
this.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Nude_Bikergirl

Stop crying like the cucks you are and learn to block people who spam RA, they are free round wins.

That's not really the main complaint with RAs. The problem with RAs is that, when playing against weaker players, they grind the match to a complete halt when your opponent gets rage. It just becomes a game of RA baiting and that's just a boring waste of time.

likme
likme

@Lord_Tryzalot
You dumbass that's his rage DRIVE

Not the same as rage ART

Learn the GAME

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@JunkTop
Seriously what am I doing wrong?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@takes2long
luci gets annihilated
doesn't respond
like clockwork by now

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@King_Martha

Both the armor move and RA are easy to punish one

The fuck are you talking about? The only way you can punish his armour move is if you duck - and even then the window for punishment is extremely tight.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Soft_member
Your right running up to the opponent and grabbing/low kicking/DF1 is so much more entertaining...

girlDog
girlDog

@haveahappyday
you miss the part where he has to be in RFF and in your face?

Just work on your keep away game lmao.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@PurpleCharger
Your main is garbo for one.

@haveahappyday
Have you tried backdashing? lol b

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Lord_Tryzalot
Why are you hiding your rank shitter

askme
askme

@likme
@DeathDog

Don't give him (you)s the guy has no idea what he is talking about just filter him like everyone else

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@King_Martha
Last time I checked, tapping the RA button automatically switched him to the stance then immediately activated the RA.

I never said anything about his Armor move.

Also, saying something feels cheesy doesn't mean I can't deal with it. I usually just block it then go back to playing normally.

@likme
I never said it wasn't, kiddo.

@PurpleCharger
Combo might not work anymore or might only work at the wall.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@girlDog

you miss the part where he has to be in RFF and in your face?

Yeah, and? He doesn't even need to be particularly close.

Just work on your keep away game lmao.

What an incredible insight. Please, impart more of your wisdom.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@PackManBrainlure
Spoken like a true shitter lmao

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Gigastrength
I never said it wasn't, kiddo.

@Lord_Tryzalot
Go into practice mode and tap the RA button with Who Rang
Nothing like getting Lucy to backtrack lel

Soft_member
Soft_member

@PurpleCharger
Too late

StonedTime
StonedTime

@MPmaster
Thanks for the usless respons.

@Gigastrength
Combo works there are plenty of videos to see with it.

Methshot
Methshot

@PackManBrainlure
complains about a move being too strong
Bro you just gotta counter it by doing X, the move isn't even that good.
Wow you're giving me advice when all I wanna do is bitch and moan?
Whatever dude he has solid advice. Try spending less time complaining and more time learning that backdash cancel.

Techpill
Techpill

@Illusionz
how did he get annihilated
I didn't see because of filtering replies and I happened to check your stub

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Stupidasole
Telling you to go to practice mode and press a button has what to do with a WebM of me beating someone in match?

@StonedTime
I haven't tried the combo, so I am not saying it doesn't. I am just saying that you will occasionally run into videos of combos from previous versions of Tekken 7 that no longer work in the current version.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Methshot

complains about a move being too strong

That's not what I said. i said, it seems strange that Hwo inexplicably has several moves that break core rules that every other character subscribes to.

the move isn't even that good.

It's a nigh-unpunishable armour move that leads to a full combo for 70+ damage. I'm fairly certain it's the best armour move in the game.

Evilember
Evilember

god dammit harader give me my god damn armor king REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

StonedTime
StonedTime

im going through alisas top 15 moves
https://drunkardshade.com/2017/05/27/tekken-7-top-15-moves-for-all-characters/

and its saying that wr3,4 is one of them but she doesnt have any 4 followup to wr3. what are they actually talking about?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Bidwell
wait wait wait you're complaining about RFF 3~4? That's only available out of a stance, you can see it coming from a mile away.
That shit's a high just duck it. Or hold back on your arcade stick and block it. Or grab him out of it and it'll be unbreakable. Or hit him with a low and it will be interrupted.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

All I do is stare at the character select screen these past few days.
Give me a fun character to lab. No Mishimas. I'm tired of playing them right now.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@girlDog
he has to be in RFF
You're talking like that's a problem for Hwoarang. Can you see the transition into RFF before backlash on this webm? You can't, because the animation is instantly canceled by 3~4. And saying the move has no range is a stretch.
The only proper way to punish backlash is on a complete whiff, and that's not an easy thing to do thanks to quick recovery. Your "just use quick counterhits" argument is bullshit.

takes2long
takes2long

@SniperWish
Believe what you want to believe. I'v seen it punished countless times from counter hits.

stay shit.

girlDog
girlDog

@Bidwell
several moves that break core rules
Name a few.
Paul's rage art can be canceled after hitting when nobody elses can, a lot of moves have unique mechanics that "break he rules".
nigh-unpunishable armour move
muh rage art
You don't have to worry about a panic rageart because he has to be in RFF stance first, which he can't if he is blocking. You can punish it at the wall or parry it.
b-b-but core mechanics! its the only nigh-unpunishable rage art!
Jin, Alisa, Steve and Lucky Chloe all have nigh-unpunishable ragearts unless you duck them. Alisa's in particular has a tighter punish because of you have to wait to attack her.

Would you prefer all rage arts have the same bland mechanics?

muh power crush
You mean the those duckable moves that are telegraphed mid string or mid stance? They only lead to a full combo on CH I'm pretty sure. Stop pressing buttons

Emberfire
Emberfire

@takes2long

I'v seen it punished countless times from counter hits.

What exactly are you counter hitting? Are you under the impression that you can counter hit an armour move?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@takes2long
Yeah right. I actually main Hwo and I've seen a ton of arcade footage of him. I can't remember a single example of this, not even in Hwoarang mirrors. Care to provide one?

FastChef
FastChef

@Emberfire
Not him but you can counter an armour move with movestrings.

I have hit whoreang and blocked that shit so many times, it only hits you if you're pressing bahtunz like a monkey

@SniperWish
That isn't "nigh-unpunishable" though, because you can launch punish it with no problems as long as you make a correct read.

5mileys
5mileys

@AwesomeTucker
king

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Emberfire
@Lunatick
what are low moves
You guys realise that low attacks beat power crushes, right?
You will never lose to a hwoarang scrub again

Your welcome

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@FastChef

I have hit whoreang and blocked that shit so many times, it only hits you if you're pressing bahtunz like a monkey

You are still missing the point. If he activates it and you block it, he is completely safe. If he activates it and you duck it, he is almost safe. There is a small window within which you can punish him but it is extremely difficult to hit.

By contrast, if he lands it, he gets a massive reward in the form of a full juggle off a high damage launcher. The risk-reward is skewed as fuck which is why Hwo players spam it like there's no tomorrow.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@FastChef
@Ignoramus
Not that user but
launch punish it with no problems as long as you make a correct read
applies to anything.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@AwesomeTucker
bobby boy

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Evil_kitten
but it is extremely difficult to hit.
Sounds like a (you) problem

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@FastChef
long as you make a correct read
That's exactly the problem, it can only be whiff punished on a read, not reaction. By that I mean a situation where you backdash out of range and launch him.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@New_Cliche
Of course it does, but calling a HIGH move "nigh-unpunishable" is disingenuous.

@Evil_kitten
extremely difficult to hit
It is launch punishable, if you're having trouble hitting the maximum punish then try using a 13f punish or something. That isn't "nigh-unpunishable" it's just that you need to be expecting it to punish it optimally (like most other moves in the game)

By contrast, if he lands it, he gets a massive reward
So he is a decent character in this game, what is the problem? Are you gonna complain about Dragunov's WR+2? Devil Jin's unseeable hellsweep combo? What about Bryan's unblockable taunt into jet upper?

All these moves are counterable and offer great damage. Backlash isn't as low risk - high reward as you think if you can literally launch punish it by ducking

Inmate
Inmate

@BunnyJinx
whiff punished on a read
Like most moves with quick recovery frames, really.

Listen how silly this sounds:

You are still missing the point. If he activates it and you block it, he is completely safe. If he activates it and you duck it, he is almost safe. There is a small window within which you can punish him but it is extremely difficult to hit.

If a Mishima lands an EWGF, he gets a massive reward in the form of a full juggle off a high damage launcher. The risk-reward is skewed as fuck which is why Mishima players spam it like there's no tomorrow.

You are complaining about a shittier version of the EWGF that has lower execution.

girlDog
girlDog

@New_Cliche
Why did you quote me?(@Ignoramus
)
nobody still hasn't refuted this, hworang isnt op yall are just scrubs lmao

you don't have to predict a powercrush to throw out a low btw

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

aris should have stuck with josie desu

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@TurtleCat
try using a 13f punish or something
The maximum you can count on after ducking is i11, you can test it yourself. And even that is unreliable online.
@Inmate
I'm not that guy. We're talking about an armored move here, that's obviously not the same as just a normal launcher.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Get good scrubs.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Does anyone know how big Lucky Chloe's tail gets with each rank? Got any pictures?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@King_Martha
why doesnt he wear his jacket properly

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@girlDog
Find a low that is fast enought to interrupt that on reacction in a real match. I'll give you 7 days to post a webm of you doing it.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@King_Martha
Waaaay too late on the punish.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@AwesomeTucker
You're risking eating one of the active frames by doing it too early. Try it yourself.

farquit
farquit

@VisualMaster
Who said on reaction?

predict he is going to throw out a powercrush
use a low that is i24 frames or lower
Boom counterhit. I'm not posting a webm here, you can get fucked. I'm far too lazy.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@hairygrape
Every character has 50% wall combos, and drag has hard execution with his wall carry crouch cancel.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@farquit
Meant to say i25 frames or lower, you can literally sweep and it will counterhit lol

Or just dickpunch like usual that still shuts down 90% of Whorangutan's offense

eGremlin
eGremlin

@King_Martha
whats your online rank?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

How to win every match:

predict the opponent is going to do something
launch him
repeat

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@farquit
@Nojokur
Every high is launch punishable you just have to read the opponents mind and sweep in time :^)

w8t4u
w8t4u

20 years later
people STILL complaining about Hwoarang
I love it. This is the only game he has even been high tier

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Ignoramus
thanks

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@StrangeWizard
crouch cancel
hard
Just hit up

Emberburn
Emberburn

@SomethingNew
Hellsweeps aren't launch punishable on block because you have to read the opponents mind and block in time :^)

Skullbone
Skullbone

I remember watching uui's stream recently, he was playing a long set against a Hwoarang in orange, who was throwing out that armored move like no tomorrow. Not a single one got punished. If he can't do it, i'm pretty sure none of you apes can either.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Evil_kitten
Yes drags f3 step in cc into jab or 4 1 is hard.

It's not like CC d2 over and over again.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@StonedTime
Get good at reading notations, kid
WR is while running

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Emberburn
Thats the biggest shutdown ive seen in a while

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Soft_member
Did you try getting out of blue? Fixed this problem for me.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Emberburn
Hwo's powercrush comes out of a cd :^)

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Skullbone
It's just shitposting bro.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@w8t4u
Hwo's powercrush doesn't come out of a stance

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@w8t4u
It actually doea come out of a stance, you fool.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@SomethingNew
@w8t4u
Smiley user btfo

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@New_Cliche
@LuckyDusty
@cum2soon
There is a post in this thread with a webm that shows how the stance animation is instantly canceled into the powecrush. Are you guys even following the conversation.

Evilember
Evilember

Can someone explain armor moves to me?
Sometimes they eat a full string until they come out.
Sometimes they come out after a single punch and sometimes you can't even block immediatly after the punch.
One Armor move beats another one for whatever reason.

So much I simply don't get.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Playboyize
@Garbage Can Lid
Devil Jin's launching hellsweep comes out faster than Hwoarang's whiplash, even with crouchdash

DJ's CD4 - 19 frames
Hwoarang's Whiplash - 26 frames

Now stop complaining about whiplash when there are better moves out there.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@girlDog
steve

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Maven is one of the coolest fucking characters in the game
25% of the Mavens I see are fucking gods who hit 80% combos and shit
75% of the shit Mavens meme all day long, evasive shoulder into slide, low knee kick, teleporting and run away unblockable, or run away QCF 4 bait
What a fractured playerbase. Still amazes me how people turn a really cool character into an eyesore. Almost as annoying to watch as Kazuyas who don't know what any buttons if they don't relate to hellsweep or 112/1243

Firespawn
Firespawn

@AwesomeTucker
master baeven

SniperWish
SniperWish

@PurpleCharger
Say what you want about Phantom his Raven is wavy, and frankly he seems like a chill dude.

FastChef
FastChef

@Evilember
Pretty much all of that depends on startup speed and the number of active frames an armored move has.

idontknow
idontknow

@SniperWish
I say I would have a drink with him and talk about raven tech.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@FastChef
What a cop-out response.
You're clearly a blue ranked shitter so don't speak to me.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Well then I guess it has been established, whiplash ISN'T OP. What's the next subject lads?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@PurpleCharger
@idontknow
I would watch him stream Ninja Gaiden on hard

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Snarelure
Then keep waiting for someone to spoonfeed you, lmao.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@StonedTime
does he have a twitch or a youtube
at first I was thinking these were autism but they're pretty cool

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Methnerd
Dragunov's ability to make a complete scrub a god. d2 is probably the best low in the fucking game that isn't a hellsweep.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Methnerd
Nah not really. The move is called backlash by the way.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Methnerd
t. hwoarang main

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Methnerd
Fully explain who is the best character to use against Jack.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Snarelure
I haven't looked specifically how the frames work, but it seems to freeze the armouring character for about 8 frames on hit. Since most string moves take longer than that to hit (e.g. jab strings are usually i10, i10) the armour move will slowly move forward to hit.
Some characters can abuse this to their advantage, like Yoshi's b+1,1,1,1,b+3,3, or Steve's 1,2,1,2~DCK for highs

DeathDog
DeathDog

@kizzmybutt
Jack

Techpill
Techpill

@Nude_Bikergirl
@ZeroReborn

whiplash, backlash, hairy tache, ass rash, whatever.
Whatever that move is called it isn't OP

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Methnerd

Backlash? No, it isn't OP but it's still scrubby as fuck. Literally nothing stopping you from spamming it non-stop online for free wins.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Techpill
OP or not, it's the best armored move there is. High damage, homing, launching, plus on block, recovers quickly.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Deadlyinx
Even if it's hard to punish on duck, you're still given a free FC mixup.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Hey Hwo players, what's some good wall options from LFF?

Emberburn
Emberburn

Is the one-sided lag rumor real? Just had a guy add me complaining about our "2 bar" connection. It felt like a 3-4 bar to me, at least playable. I'm on ethernet dunno about.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Emberburn
I sense the presence of wifi using scum in your story.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Emberburn
@viagrandad
This. Blame the cancerous tumors that are wifi-warriors

RavySnake
RavySnake

@PurpleCharger
I think the only way you can hit that is on a SSR first. Best I can get on-axis is f+4; d/b+4,3; f+2

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Stark_Naked
to fish for wall splat or like a wall combo?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Stupidasole
Yep a wall combo for right after you finish a juggle in LFF and they are splatting

RavySnake
RavySnake

@lostmypassword
if you have no time or need to close distance, CD3, LFS 3,f+4. optimal is f+3+4, RFF f+3, LFS f+3, LFS 3,f+4. there's also d+3,4, RFS df+4 into 50/50. or 1, d+1, WS4,4 into RFF 50/50.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@RavySnake
Ah thanks man, I didn't know about this - RFF f+3, LFS f+3, LFS 3,f+4 Looks like a bit of a pain to pull off in laggy online

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@SomethingNew
slow startup, high, not much range. drag's is the best.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Hey guys, I grew tired of Ps4 version's shitty online quality and input lag. Thinking about getting T7 on PC. Will my i7-4790k and HD7950 3gb handle a stable [email protected] on let's say medium settings?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@ZeroReborn
Pirate the game and find out.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Forcing me to watch your intro / win screen
Guess who I won't be rematching no matter what.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Is it possible for future installments to have a wired connection search only?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@AwesomeTucker
That is rare for me to see since I absolutely refuse to play against any and all Whorerangs.
So thats fine.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Burnblaze
You can't dodge anymore, scrub ;)

Methshot
Methshot

@Lunatick
what is closing the game during the loading screen?

:)

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Crazy_Nice
25 damage, 20f+ startup and it's punishable on block? Drag's is a bit above average at best, even Miguel's b+4 is better in every regard.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Damn.

How will I ever recover from being dodged by a blue rank?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@New_Cliche
i20, mid, knocks down, tracks well, good range, -12. miguel's is slower, linear, and -14.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Lunatick
This. @Methshot

And more often than not they make it pretty obvious that they play Whorerang by using a pic of him as their profile picture.
Already reason enough to dodge these fuckers.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@StrangeWizard
Miguel's is 33 damage, knockdown, better range that Drag's, and is actually faster with i19 startup vs i21.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@lostmypassword
@lostmypassword
Damn.

Imagine being THIS bad at the game that you can't win match ups.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@BinaryMan
oh u rite. the range looks similar to me since they both move forward.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@whereismyname
*Armor moves you for at least 75dmg*
*Instant Side step Rage Art your attack*
check out my multiple rage drives

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@BlogWobbles
Sounds like you need to get gud

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Deadlyinx
he's right, his powercrush is bullshit

viagrandad
viagrandad

I want to learn Hei, but I feel like it's gonna take years and Bryan is a lot of fun, is it worth it?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Harmless_Venom
And? You're bitching as if it's the most powerful move in the game. a bunch other fighters have BS.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Flameblow
it probably is
+ on block
armor
launches into 70 damage
whiff punishing not recommended
barely punishable on duck and only by i11
low risk high reward move and it doesn't even have an execution requirement

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Supergrass
I'll argue that DJs hell sweep is more bs. It's the only one that can launch.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Near a wall
opponent uses RA
hold back to block
because of the animation for whatever the fuck reason we switched sides
me holding back is now actually me holding forward
eat the RA

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@BlogWobbles
I'll take korean man of kicks over faggot characters that dodge mids by existing or can't be launched out of their faggot stances while being able to launch, low launch and command throw me

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@VisualMaster
Maybe they would get fixed if you complained to Harada instead :)

Spamalot
Spamalot

@VisualMaster
You can neutral block that shit
If anything it's preferable so you don't accidentally move out of range and fuck up the punish

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Rage arts would be perfect if they were execution heavy.

Having them bound to a panic button is a crime.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Nude_Bikergirl
I'd rather face 10 Eddys at the same time than a single Whorerang.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Forget hwo

The real broken ass characters are Leo,drag and king.

They are full of bs

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

If you complain about any of these characters you're a shitter, your opinion has no value and you should hit practice mode.

Alisa Bosconovitch
Hwoarang
Ling Xiaoyu
Josie Rizal
Eddy Gordo
Claudio Serafino
Katarina Alves
Kuma
Panda
Leo Kliesen
Shaheen
Bryan Fury
Paul Phoenix
Yoshimitsu
Jin Kazama
Devil Jin
Eliza
Akuma
Feng Wei
Asuka Kazama
Marshall Law
Gigas
Lucky Chloe
Sergeï Dragunov
Tony King

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Deadlyinx
You forgot Jack-7

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Spamalot
vs ruckie chroe

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@w8t4u
you can neutral block single lows by holding down, multi hitting ones will probably fuck you up though

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Supergrass
27 frames
high
doesn't even hit range 1
getting counter hit low launched or ducked and forced into mixup or even punished doesn't seem low risk to me. it's low risk vs scrubs, but so is feng shoulder.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@TurtleCat
Fengs shoulder is launch punishable by literally anything, its like -22

Emberfire
Emberfire

@PurpleCharger
yes. vs scrubs, it is safe.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

watching a tmm tutorial
he's explaining about some wall splat move
he messes up the combo after it that he's showing just because
"thats not the combo let me do it again"
Why? In LUYG tutorials they just said whatever you get the point and moved on. Why does he always do that?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Raving_Cute

King is like the mid-tier of mid-tiers. He's a million miles away from broken.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@TurtleCat

getting counter hit low launched or ducked and forced into mixup or even punished doesn't seem low risk to me.

By that logic, every move in the game is high risk. You can't Ch low launch Hwo's power crush on reaction. Don't be fucking retarded.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

You'll never escape the Lars-Lee-Ling-Lei-Law

Lunatick
Lunatick

@SniperWish
you can't do lots of things on pure reaction. make reads. it being slow as shit means you can stuff it and make the power crush freeze extend the already slow startup and then raw react to your moves being absorbed and still have time to duck.

SniperGod
SniperGod

What does dynamic adjustment do anyways?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Lunatick

Why does it seem like you are a Hwo player desperately trying to defend his babby crutch move?

Supergrass
Supergrass

is it ok to use the vanilla arena mods and costume mods?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@RumChicken

why though? it annoys me anytime I land something on eddy, and while it usually would result in some proper damage or a juggle, instead he falls to the ground and takes minimal chip damage

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@King_Martha
Deny a paul his promo match, ki-charge and teabag to fuck with him, because it's a paul
he continues to rematch, obviously salty
demote his ass twice and grab a promo myself
I love playing paul now.

Evilember
Evilember

@Fuzzy_Logic
exactly. it's a crutch move to beat mashers and impatient players. so i end up not using it often because i don't play against mashers or particularly impatient players, and even then hwo has better tools to beat those kinds of players without risking getting low launched.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@happy_sad
Find a move that beats his lying down stance thing, as well as that leg helicopter thing he does. Other than that it shouldn't be much of a problem, at least against scrubby eddy.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Nude_Bikergirl
he continues to rematch, obviously salty

You have psychological issues.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@VisualMaster
Remember to be ready to fight your opponent anytime

MPmaster
MPmaster

@King_Martha

He might but salty rematches are by far the most efficient way to rank up. If you can make someone angry enough, they'll feed you 10 wins or more.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Clip from Summer Jam in case anyone missed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWoORw17NRs

Supergrass
Supergrass

Guys how do I play Hworang? I can do like two of the sample combos but don't fully grasp the character. Is there anything in particular I should know about him?

Techpill
Techpill

@eGremlin
fun losing to law
You are made for this game. I think law is one of those characters people at low levels don't want to lose against. It's why I memorized his most famous moves so I don't lose against that bastard anymore.

girlDog
girlDog

@Supergrass
you can keep your pressure short and compact to start out. stuff like
d+3,4, RFS df+4 or RFS 1
1,2,4, RFS df+4
1,2,3, d+3,4, RFS df+4 or RFS 1
1,2,4, RFS 2, RFF df+4~f, RFS df+4 or RFS 1

things like that. and you can sub RFS df+4 for RFS d+4,3 which is the hellsweep if you really think they'll duck, but fishing for launchers or poking with a safe(r) low like d+3,4 is more useful than risking your life.

in neutral you can go wild and go in or play patient and wait for an opening. against strong players, they'll know how to stop you when you try to run in and start block pressure from neutral, as hwoarang has lots of holes when trying to do that (but he has some ways to cover those holes, albeit mostly risky ones). he also has some tricky movement to make people flinch to give you that whiff you want. he also has a generic df+2 and an orbital (u+3+4), which is helpful.

also fyi in case you aren't familiar with notation: RFF = right foot forward (3+4), LFS = left flamingo stance (f+3), RFS = right flamingo stance (f,n+4).

Snarelure
Snarelure

@girlDog
Wow thank you user! That'll help a ton! I'll go practice here in a bit! Much appreciated

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@SniperGod

It lowers your resolution if your pc is struggling to maintain 60fps

FastChef
FastChef

I belong in blues, and that's okay.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@FastChef
Got demoted back into blue?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Supergrass
The motion is b b db n b db n . . ..
When you do it the command history will show an extra b after every db
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtwwejuRAx8

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Spazyfool
I know how big my tail gets with every lucky chloe.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Who are the least gimmicky characters?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Nojokur
Jack, Kazumi, Bryan

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Supergrass
If there is good one article on Shoryuken dot com, it's the one about KBD. Most importantly it breaks it down for multiple different sub exercises so you can practice and understand the different parts of KBD.
For that problem, you can try staring from crouch, just hold downback, then release the stick to neutral and do one back and you should get a backdash. If you don't you need to adjust releasing the stick from db, and that exercise means you can do it without rush.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Would people get angry if the RA's armor started at the time as a regular armour move (at 8 frames)?

hairygrape
hairygrape

Can you get anything after Drag's down 2, or should i just keep using it to poke and condition?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@lostmypassword

Repeatedly.

girlDog
girlDog

@hairygrape

Can you get anything after Drag's down 2

Not really.

If you want to play asshole Drag, you just crouch cancel d+2s all day until they get frustrated and try to low block/parry and then you hit them with a mid string/launcher like WS2.

If you want to be an even bigger cunt, you mix-up d+2s with buffered iWR 2s.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

so how the fuck do i deal with ling as djin?

askme
askme

when 5 bars dodge and refuse to play long sets
Europe will stay free

girlDog
girlDog

@hairygrape
You get a free mixup if it counterhits but you don't get anything as ridiculous as Leo gets from her qcf+1

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Nojokur
@TalkBomber
This list seems right to me.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@TalkBomber

buy Tekken 7 since the cover promised an epic conclusion to the Mishima saga

Thinking about it, I think "Mishima saga" could just refer to how the conflict of the entire series began with Heihachi ousting Jinpachi, starting up the Mishima Zaibatsu, and tearfully killing his wife in self-defense, all of which then led to him throwing Kazuya off that cliff, and then that led to decades of the Mishima family's name being flung into the mud, all of it culminating with the whole world having to suffer for it.

With the game's ending, we'll need the next game to be focused on Kazuya and what he had done since the first game, especially on his relationship with Jun, which led to Jin being born.

girlDog
girlDog

@Playboyize
8 would be the perfect time for Jun to reappear

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Evilember
more like
armer kinger

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

https://www.twitch
.tv/themainmanswe

Our guy delivering as usual. Playing Devil Jin against Claudio and complaining about the character. So fucking based.

Methshot
Methshot

Don't even breathe the same fucking air as me if you don't play Mishimas

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Methshot
Oh, I love playing coin flip. Best characters.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Are you supposed to electric similar to a KBD motion? e.g. thumb + finger on 2p side, side-palm and lower finger for 1p side?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Harmless_Venom
ya

iluvmen
iluvmen

Realized an odd thing in my play.
I practice mostly, and too much only on 1P side, so sometimes when I switch sides my brain freezes mid combos sometimes flipping the buttons around, so I press 2 instead of 1 and 3 instead of 4 and vise versa.
Never an issue in real matches as then things come out of my backbone, but when practicing new stuff my brain is too dumb.

Also, never had such an issue in any of the 2D games I've played.

farquit
farquit

why do moves that are objectively high reward and low risk exist?

like claudios hopkick. what is the point of making moves like this?

Evilember
Evilember

@iluvmen
that's cause you rarely switch sides in tekken but constantly in 2d games

JunkTop
JunkTop

safe mid launchers that are 23 framess or under
Defend this

Lunatick
Lunatick

@farquit
Every character needs a gimmick.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@JunkTop
It's negative

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Lunatick
Gigas's gimmick is fundamentals

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Carnalpleasure
So are most moves in the game

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Carnalpleasure
Most moves are. As long as it's not punishable it doesn't mean shit.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Emberburn
Imagine if you had to get Gigas to green rank before you could play any other character on ranked.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@JunkTop
if it's linear, who cares?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@farquit
I just played against a Shaheen for the first time like ever, and his hopkick was fucking me up too. Is that just a thing with new characters?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Harmless_Venom
People would actually be forced to know how to play Tekken at green instead of mashing with Law and Ling and getting to orange with no fundamentals. Sounds nice desu

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Harmless_Venom
green rank

likme
likme

@CodeBuns
implying shitters won't get stuck at blue
anyone else competent can get to play their character in an hour

Methshot
Methshot

@Spamalot
Hopkick(flip) or orbital. He has both. Orbital is slow (25f), but is safe on block (-7). His hopkick (the flip) is 15f startup, but -13 on block.

WebTool
WebTool

@Spamalot
Pretty sure Chloe's is launch punishable

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Spamalot
@Methshot
That was supposed to be a question. Which one gave you trouble? Or both?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

mfw no Asuka/Josie + King SFM porn

If FGC was bigger there surely would be some...

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

thead slow in the morning

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

complains about claudio's hop kick
picks his warrior claudio
mauls on other warriors by spamming his hop kick and wr2
I think he proved his point right guys?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@PackManBrainlure
most people gave up by now
soon tekgen will be buried again...

askme
askme

@BlogWobbles
stop your fake pressure or get hopkicked
yellow ranks are still garbage

viagrandad
viagrandad

@askme
mmm

dont talk to me again okay?

WebTool
WebTool

@viagrandad
stay bad stay mad stay pressing buttons

Inmate
Inmate

@viagrandad
Are Mishima players really this stupid?
There's only Knee to redeem all of you but he plays so many characters it doesn't even count.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@WebTool
i was being sarcastic
and as i said dont talk to me again retard

Nojokur
Nojokur

There has to be a rule that makes Raven's qcf+2 impossible to follow up with a 4,1 on sundays.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@hairygrape
name calling wont make you good id rate your posting light blue at best

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Inmate

damn, remember when knee was considered the world's best bryan specialist?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@MPmaster
10 years ago

eGremlin
eGremlin

@MPmaster
Yeah, I'm an OG too hahaha...

FastChef
FastChef

im an original gayfer

Booteefool
Booteefool

VSFighting top 8 in an hour.

https://www.twitch
.tv/tekken

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Booteefool
Gonna be good kaneandtrench vs JDCR

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Booteefool
Caiper and Kaneandtrench have managed to stop Koreans before. Can they do it again?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

hwoarang and maven in top 8
Love watching those characters.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Fried_Sushi
Hope so
Tired of free Europe

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Fried_Sushi
im the report worked

happy_sad
happy_sad

Speaking of Rucky Chloe, I can deal with her if she's not meme'ing. But every once in a while I'll play against one that loves doing the obnoxious Low Mid infinite. I know I can hopkick her dumbass at startup if I know it's coming, however once she gets me in one loop it doesn't feel like I'm able to do anything, I can't press buttons at all and I'm forced to either block it or die horribly. Can someone help?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

tfw you promote twice off the same guy

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Who are the most mobile characters?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@BinaryMan
starscream is the hwo right?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@haveahappyday
One guy got three promotions in a row off me. And bunch of wins after that even.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@ZeroReborn
yup, dude looks like dave chappelle

idontknow
idontknow

@happy_sad
Low Mid infinite
Practice mode.
You have to fuzzy guard it, fuzzy parr if you're feeling lucky

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Gigastrength
Mishimas can go
F a s t
a
s
t
By wavedashing at hihg speed

SniperWish
SniperWish

@VisualMaster
sweet. i love his hwoarang. i hope he beats some korean nerds.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

ok, eliza has taken the lead in the ragequit department

Spamalot
Spamalot

Fengs hopkick is so garbage it can't even reach his own point blank blocked shoulder

wew

massdebater
massdebater

Stop playing Josie
realize this game is actually hard
realize timing and lag actually matter
I AM A FRUAD!

Flameblow
Flameblow

@massdebater
At least you learned a matchup

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Spamalot
yea his hopkick is wack but he has f3, 4 to make up for it, that move is cheap as fuck

idontknow
idontknow

@whereismyname
you mean slow as fuck

Flameblow
Flameblow

@TalkBomber
Who else? I might play a Mishima eventually, but not in the meantime.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Are Ling players honest? Because they seem to have ridiculously easy half health combos from fucking nothing. I only see those thots online and got demoted from Marauder for the first time today as Drag. I never see 'em in player matches for some reason.

Also giving King a crack since he looked pretty decent this time round.

mfw I learn to how to cheese his 90+ combos

This makes me a shitter doesn't it? Unless of course I learn not to heavily rely on RDC spamming?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Flameblow
bobber, hwo and king can go fast real fast

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@TreeEater
Damn, that sounds pretty fast. I'll check them out. Thanks.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@massdebater
josie can just completely disregard what the opponent does and do her own thing

likme
likme

@Crazy_Nice
yeah I don't even play wavedash characters but sometimes I just go into training mode with them to go fast

hairygrape
hairygrape

@idontknow
you can still punish his shoulder with it though, last i checked his shoulder is like -25 or something and f3, 4 is i21

and the range on f3 by itself is crazy, i use it with ws1 if i want to pressure from range 2~ish

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Poker_Star
That's not even true, you can interrupt many of her strings
If you're fast enough you can avoid CD4 and CD2 etc etc

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

how do I filter italian and spanish IPs

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

it's a Kazuya only knows how to hellsweep episode

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Nude_Bikergirl
Ling "Can be" honest but just as easily rewards people for playing like bitches with her AoP shenanigans, weird looking snake edge, and bizzare mix ups. Just assume any time a Ling has her back turned that if you're not blocking you will get launched period. I like playing against Ling a lot more when I play characters that have really good moves to shit on her for being in AoP for anything other than twitch ducking or oki. However if you have a character that relys on a ton of highs and some mids without good lows like for example Kazumi, you're gonna have a bad time.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@lostmypassword
You are fucking retarded if you think that there is just one guy not liking you here. There even have been 2 guys challenging you and you just ran away.
Projecting this much

StonedTime
StonedTime

Is it norm for people to dodge after they lose 2 in a row in gm? If it isn't 3rd t8me it's happened

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@likme
you should go flamingo fast with df+3~f.
HUP HUP HUP HUP HUP HUP

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@RumChicken
Stop giving him (you)s.

takes2long
takes2long

@TalkBomber
Pity that wavedashing looks retarded.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@TalkBomber
Kazuya
"Hey maybe this kid is actually good I'll respect him and play safer"
Wavedash, Hellsweep, 112, 1243 all game
Another Kazuya a couple games later
"That last Kazuya was garbage so maybe this one is too, let's play a lot more aggressively"
Enemy Kazuya hits 6 EWGF combos, wavedashes at sanic speeds, and generally sidewalk punishes my asshole all the way up
Not like this.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@takes2long
I like how it looks

5mileys
5mileys

@StonedTime
GM/Brawler are weird ranks with their own Special playerbase and play style that isn't found in any other ranks in the game. But to be honest it tends to go one of two ways, they'll play you twice first to two wins in fear of demotion/downloading. Or they'll deathmatch you until they get demoted.

Inmate
Inmate

@CodeBuns
i like how your mums ass looks

TechHater
TechHater

@w8t4u
Block???

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Inmate
I like how your ass looks

massdebater
massdebater

@TechHater
Hellsweep
Blocking
Choose one blue rank

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@TechHater
block my ass daddy

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Help

I have forgotten everything over night, I normally play some quick matches to warm up but i'm actually actively trying to think about what button does what during the fight when this never happens

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@TechHater
the moment you start blocking hellsweep you already lost

Techpill
Techpill

asugay throwing out only launchers
that's his whole gameplan
decide to just wait and punish each and every single one
it works

didn't feel like playing him after anyways

Emberfire
Emberfire

How do I beat people that mash jabs out of my switch stance as Josie? SWS1? The other switch stances are just slow enough that jabs can get through

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@JunkTop
23 frames
Maybe you should be less of a pussy and actually press buttons sometimes
Next thing you know you'll be memed on with unblockables

Spamalot
Spamalot

I'm learning King and I learnt you can cheese his RDC and other fuck off damage throws by mashing L3 with a button variation thrown in here and there.

How do I effectively use this lad without being some low sweeping shitter?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Emberfire
you dont your pressure sucks and isnt real

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Emberfire
They know how to beat that stance.
Try fishing for CH SWS1
and condition them into ducking

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Techpill
asugay
hello 14 y/o

cum2soon
cum2soon

@RumChicken
hello asugay

FastChef
FastChef

Whore-angs that salty win quit deserve to be shot after 2-1

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Emberfire
SWS 1 and 2 can't be interrupted

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@FastChef
salty win quit

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@FastChef
salty win quit
2-1
You need to stop posting
Is he supposed to play you infinitely until you are satisfied? Gimme a break.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@TurtleCat
@CodeBuns
I think he meant Hwos that Salty 1-1 should be forced to plan a best of three then be shot if they lose.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Stupidasole
I don't care what you think.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

tfw you play for two hours and the only thing you learn is disdain for the opponent's character

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@CodeBuns
I was the 2 wins :(

Spamalot
Spamalot

are there any actual stats about the usage rates of characters online in this game

SniperWish
SniperWish

@cum2soon
he didn't deny being 14 report him

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@SniperWish
and neither did you

w8t4u
w8t4u

@kizzmybutt
I was never referred to as underage because I am not

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Fried_Sushi
This isnt fucking funny someone must have drugged me in my sleep or something im forgetting the most basic shit

I actually stood there staring after a counterhit I never even think about I just do it

whereismyname
whereismyname

@TreeEater
Jack off and eat some food
idk

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@w8t4u
sounds like something an underage person would say

JunkTop
JunkTop

Why shouldn't I play Dragunov?
He's fun

massdebater
massdebater

@Fried_Sushi
@TreeEater
You might be dyslexic.

askme
askme

@BinaryMan
I specified that I am old enough to be using this website and you did not when referred to as otherwise so enjoy your ban young man sorry it's already done kid

Bidwell
Bidwell

Is there anything more tilting than losing a mirror match against someone with less wins on your character that does non optimal shit?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@JunkTop
he's killing the game

Firespawn
Firespawn

@massdebater
Do you mean Autistic

idontknow
idontknow

@Firespawn
but then he would be doing good

Methshot
Methshot

@Firespawn
He can be both, sure.

Skullbone
Skullbone

for the first time in the history of tekken, people are whining about jack and dragunov being overpowered instead of mishimas, bob, lars and leo

what a time to be alive

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

what's wrong with blocking hellsweep, isn't it launch punishable (with a WS launcher)? are you supposed to low parry instead?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@PackManBrainlure
Lmao muh esports

Techpill
Techpill

@SomethingNew
There's nothing wrong with blocking a hell sweep but yeah you're doing it wrong if you're just blatantly ducking and trying to get lucky. Better strategy against wavedash mix-ups is moving to your left.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Stark_Naked
I feel you. I swear I get instantly tilted whenever I see a Dragunov, Lili, Alisa, and Eliza/Akuma.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@SomethingNew
They think you'll auto eat mids from wavedash
Don't listen to anyone here

happy_sad
happy_sad

@SomethingNew
hellsweeps are unseeable so you can't block them on reaction, you have to predict it

blocking is the best way to punish it though since it is launch punishable

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Emberfire
whys his arm got poop veins

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

tfw you get more tilted in practice mode than online

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@JunkTop
You should, unless you care about the respect of random strangers on the internet

hairygrape
hairygrape

@idontknow
Thats the good kind of autism, i'm fucking garbage

t. guy with autism

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Should I use this XB360 controller, or this Fight Commander 4 that works great for 2D fighting but is total dogshit for your beloved Tekken 7?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Stark_Naked
idk

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Stark_Naked
Both are garbage, but 360 is probably better.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Stark_Naked
FC4 is actually pretty good for Tekken depending on the character.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Stark_Naked
super nintendo controller

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I like to give King players shit but I can't even do the Giant Swing command on pad

They're still giant fucking cunts though

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@JunkTop
Because he's Sir Gay and secretly at night goes to bars in drag, u know.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Emberfire
Really cool tbhsmhfam

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Gigastrength
So what would be good for Tekken 7 then? I might as well toss money and build this controller collection a little higher..

@Gigastrength
Really now?

@PurpleCharger
Well since I'm too inept to play King like I really want to, and the only other character that interests me is Claudio, could he 'pass' on a FC4?

Techpill
Techpill

put marie rose in T7

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Deadlyinx
could he 'pass' on a FC4?
Yeah, just make sure to map 1+2 to a button and you'll be fine.

takes2long
takes2long

beat Josie brawler as gm, she dodges
You can't make this shit up waifu players

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Techpill
fuck off infant rapist

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

stream when?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@takes2long

but that's literally 1 rank apart

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@takes2long
Post more cats

hairygrape
hairygrape

@PackManBrainlure
any moment

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Soft_member
she's 18

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

i did it guys, im only slightly less shit on yoshimitsu now, 58 hours in tekken, happily 7000+ more to go.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

0-4 Alisa
5-9 Feng

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Stupidasole
5

TreeEater
TreeEater

@CodeBuns
59 fps
Disgusting

askme
askme

@CodeBuns
Fuck you, eat shit, step on rusty nail and die.
t. 90 hours blue.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Boy_vs_Girl
More cats? you can't tell me what to do

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Stupidasole
This, most brawlers are either a GM who just got promoted or a player who is in an infinite blue-green loop
t. infinite blue-green loop shitter

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Methnerd
I could draw a loli and then just say "o ya she's 18 lol" but then I could secretly be a disgusting sack of shit that wants to fuck babies in the mouth

Flameblow
Flameblow

@haveahappyday
Except Marie Rose and Chloe are grown up ladies kill yourself faggot

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Flameblow
keep telling yourself that you sick fuck
you shouldn't even be allowed to be in the public around other people

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Flameblow
18 counts as grown up

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@RumChicken
Its legal

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Flameblow
Shut the fuck up pedo scum

Lunatick
Lunatick

@TalkBomber
I am sorry if you were molested when you were a child

Inmate
Inmate

@CodeBuns
@askme
not leaving the game running for hours when you arent even playing

t. 166 hours initiate

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Why is everyone shitting on the commentators? Sometimes chill commentary isn't so bad

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Inmate

I have 542 hours In Tekken 7 and haven't played ranked yet. Training mode + 1v1 friends + leaving game on in background while taking breaks.

Evilember
Evilember

Jack vs Kazumi

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Lunatick
No I've never had sex before

RumChicken
RumChicken

Jack was a mistake

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Need_TLC
People don't actually wear these.. right?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Jackken 7

viagrandad
viagrandad

What am I supposed to do against good Feng players that utilize his b+1?
They can sit around and throw that out whenever I go to make a move and boom, CH. Help pls

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Is DoA actually competitively a thing? Cause as much as I love Tekken the sniffs are not up to par.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@BlogWobbles
no

MPmaster
MPmaster

@BlogWobbles
yes, for oppaipads, artwork, and other such things

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Lord_Tryzalot
No Jack's in top 8. Saint doesn't count because he's Korean.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@GoogleCat
What would you do if you saw someone wearing it in public?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@BlogWobbles

DoA models are trash. It's just the same bland hentai game models with ps3 textures for every character. With a boob slider. modded skyrim has better lewds

DeathDog
DeathDog

@AwesomeTucker
Think less of them. Judge them. Perhaps make a snide remark about it.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@DeathDog
didnt i tell you to stop talking to me retard?

cum2soon
cum2soon

Post Eliza I'm horny

DeathDog
DeathDog

@cum2soon
STFU PEDO SCUM XD XD XD

likme
likme

@viagrandad
No, but don't talk to me

RumChicken
RumChicken

Cheer for phantom!

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@AwesomeTucker
@BunnyJinx
I'm gonna buy her to jack off

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Arcane gives me serial killer vibes

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@CodeBuns
Pathetic

Lunatick
Lunatick

Stop playing Feng before all the online scrubs pick my character

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Lunatick
but they already do???

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@AwesomeTucker
I NEVER see other Fengs

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@CodeBuns
Worth every cent my guy.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

decide to start playing nina
all these options in combos
all of these launchers
almost everything launches on counterhit
if an enemy presses a button they get deleted from the game
oh my god my body was not ready for this kind of power

cum2soon
cum2soon

@kizzmybutt
Nina is unga as fuck but people give her a pass because she has a difficult wallcarry option

Booteefool
Booteefool

@kizzmybutt
Enjoy shitting on everyone who cant be bothered to learn her strings

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

who is the least played waifu? raven? nina?

eGremlin
eGremlin

Is there any character more Mong than King?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@cum2soon
She's still unweildy to play desu. If you get blown up by Nina your fundamentals are lacking. Especially when you consider you can duck and punish a lot of her cheeky jab spam.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@cum2soon
I'm tired of people using the word unga wrong.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@eGremlin
Dragunov. But yeah King players generally get the blood pressure rising, especially when they start getting nervous and start doing yolo meme mixups.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@SniperWish
Unga is mashing whatever and still just winnign

See Drag, Josie etc

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@SniperWish
using the word unga wrong
using a nonsense meme word wrong
stop

Playboyize
Playboyize

@eGremlin
josie paul hwo

happy_sad
happy_sad

@CouchChiller
I have fought 1 Alisa since launch day

Firespawn
Firespawn

@CouchChiller
in general or competitively? both have good online memes so i would imagine they're equally popular online. competitively i think there are a few more ravens afaik. some nina players either dropped her because she's weaker, whereas maven is very buffed in this game.

girlDog
girlDog

@eGremlin
Going from Dragunov to maining King and there's nothing you can do about it

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

how easy is leo to play

Soft_member
Soft_member

@eGremlin
If you complain about any of these characters you're a shitter, your opinion has no value and you should hit practice mode.

Alisa Bosconovitch
Hwoarang
Ling Xiaoyu
Josie Rizal
Eddy Gordo
Claudio Serafino
Katarina Alves
Kuma
Panda
Leo Kliesen
Shaheen
Bryan Fury
Paul Phoenix
Yoshimitsu
Jin Kazama
Devil Jin
Eliza
Akuma
Feng Wei
Asuka Kazama
Marshall Law
Gigas
Lucky Chloe
Sergeï Dragunov
Tony King

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@GoogleCat
Contrary to what shitters say she's not "super" easy.
Her combos are not execution heavy but require precise timing.
She's "easy" because she has great tools but you wouldn't expect someone new to actually use those tools effectively.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@LuckyDusty
@Flameblow

Unga just means plus frames on block.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@kizzmybutt
I thank god every day that Josie Eliza and Kazumi is in this game so people don't even bother to try her.
Always hated fighting that cunt since my brother started maning her in T3.

If you as much as touch the wall while fighting Nina in this game you might as well just call it a day, take the L and restart the round.
*Shrugs*
Le what is done is done
Fuck my ass mommy

King_Martha
King_Martha

@GoogleCat
not that hard

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Flameblow
@LuckyDusty
t.people that don't play guilty gear

takes2long
takes2long

What the fuck do you do to stop lew from spam backflip kicking you at the wall

askme
askme

JDCR vs Saint on stream in top 8 again

King_Martha
King_Martha

Please save us from Dragunov, Saint

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Please save us from Jack, JDCR

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@takes2long
Lee*

happy_sad
happy_sad

Maybe tekken 7 will stop being dragunov vs jack when north korea nukes south korea

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@askme
stop watching then

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I tried maining Law and have learned most of his moves and am doing well with him but he doesn't actually sync well with my playstyle.

Law is excellent at speed and offense but my natural playstyle is more methodical and defense oriented. Which characters are more like that? Bonus if they have a counter.

Which are some of the best characters for punishing?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@happy_sad
Truly the best timeline

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Why does saint make such weird faces

askme
askme

@Booteefool
God, I fucking hate Americans.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Spazyfool
Idk, i see other koreans do it too but not as much

TechHater
TechHater

@askme
God doesn't post here retard. You need to take that shit to /x/

takes2long
takes2long

@TechHater
Arguably the biggest shit stain on earth

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

THANK YOU SAINT

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

WELCOME TO THE KING OF IRON JACK 7

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Holy shit saint won.
How many times did he lose to JDCR in a row before this?
4 times?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@VisualMaster
Saint is the only Jack in top 32, retard

Bidwell
Bidwell

Those two honestly ruin every top 8 for me.

WebTool
WebTool

@Sharpcharm
Jack is a good defensive character. IIRC kazuya is a good defensive mishima if that's your jam. And Jin is suppossed to be good at punishing if that's what you're looking for. Also, if you're looking for something defensive, Asuka is an option as well, she has a strong reversal too, though her block punishing is pretty garbage.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

EU Tekken

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Methshot
They all deserve to be cummed on.

cum2soon
cum2soon

2-2 and the lee alt tabbing my demotion match with me ahead in life you fucking faggot

idontknow
idontknow

Any Maven players that can help me out?
I'm trying to do a combo that starts with FF3, followed by another FF3. Thing is, when I go online the second FF3 never ever connects. Whilst offline against friends and in practise it worked just fine. So is this combo doable online or should I just try something else that's easier to land? And if so, what's a good follow up?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Sharpcharm

Best characters for punishing are

Kazuya
Devil Jin, Heihachi, Jin
Josie
Kazumi

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Questio. Probably for people who haven't played the game for 20 years yet and still remember the time of learning stuff?
How do you approach block punishing when you don't know opponents frame data by heart?
Do you take more risks, try to go for punishes when you block something, or play it more safe keep the guard up and try to find opportunities to attack elsewhere.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

well the Koreans found a way to make EU Tekken boring, no gigas or bears but Jacken

Inmate
Inmate

oh cool a UK tournament maybe theres some cool players
SAINT vs JDCR

Jesus fucking CHRIST

Soft_member
Soft_member

More like Dragken xD

Playboyize
Playboyize

Saint vs JDCR
Can someone shoot these stoners

WebTool
WebTool

@GoogleCat

Block and Jab.

If it hits, then next time I block that same move I use a slower punisher and see if it hits. Rinse and repeat.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@idontknow
idk if you're doing the df+2,3 S! into BT 3+4 combo, but if you are, just omit the 2nd ff+3 and just do ff+3 launch, df+2,3 S!, BT 3+4, ff+3, 1, ff+4.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Sharpcharm
Feng Wei

iluvmen
iluvmen

@VisualMaster
I'll check that out, thanks a lot.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Flameblow
josie

what the FUCK are you talking about

Lunatick
Lunatick

@AwesomeTucker
ask them if they wanna play some tekken

Playboyize
Playboyize

@cum2soon
You haven't played against many josies, have you?

SniperWish
SniperWish

win 3 times against guy
guy wins once and then leaves

what did he mean by this?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@cum2soon
You can play Josie at a tournament level just smashing your stick on the floor over and over

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Soft_member
niguel sux i hate him

Illusionz
Illusionz

@SniperWish
are you a hwoarang player?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@SniperWish
They probably didn't like playing against you but couldn't stand not winning or something.

FastChef
FastChef

NEW
/vg/thread/186002281#p186002281
/vg/thread/186002281#p186002281
/vg/thread/186002281#p186002281

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Playboyize
@Inmate
saint and jdcr are literally killing tekken by being too good at it

Spamalot
Spamalot

@SniperWish
people have things to do

Emberfire
Emberfire

@BunnyJinx
They've been beaten before, and can be beat again. I don't mind seeing jdcr vs saint, but seeing someone else fight them in finals is a lot more fun I admit.

5mileys
5mileys

@Emberfire
Josie Eliza and Kazumi

Why those three in particular? Waifu bait?

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