/fg/ - Falcom General #45

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Previous Thread: /vg/thread/185891406#p185891406

Fate of Rennefriends edition

Trails of Cold Steel PC out now:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/538680/
https://www.gog.com/game/legend_of_heroes_trails_of_cold_steel_the

A version of the old Zero no Kiseki fan translation was leaked:

https://mega.nz/#!LM4Hxb5J!0LrSUQF0yPjveDVPLSSn3Xq1i_tSwvqXHIU9Rzd3fiE

Don't forget to support the games and spoiler the spoilers!

Latest news

- Trails of Cold Steel III's on track for Japanese release on September 28th of this year, confirmed PS4 exclusive. News/article translations: http://gematsu.com/tag/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-of-cold-steel-iii

- Short CS3 TV ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYaV_GNqyCo

- Class VII's back: https://imgur.com/a/Pw4Cp

- New CS III scans: http://imgur.com/a/YnoXU

- Trails of Cold Steel II confirmed for PC release:
https://gematsu.com/2017/07/legend-heroes-trails-cold-steel-pc-launches-august-2

- Cold Steel PC guest blogs (written by port programmer Durante, of DSFix fame):
http://xseedgames.tumblr.com/post/163454030210/loh-trails-of-cold-steel-pc-guest-blog-2-from
http://xseedgames.tumblr.com/post/163720373505/loh-trails-of-cold-steel-pc-guest-blog-3-from

- Ys Seven coming to PC, trailer/info: https://gematsu.com/2017/07/ys-seven-pc-first-details-trailer-screenshots

- Zwei II coming to PC via XSEED (Summer), preview stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gVOBPNrNgU

- Tokyo Xanadu out on Vita, improved EX+ version on PS4/PC scheduled for late 2017

Older news

- Check out these Trails FC & SC updates, re: translation improvements (http://xseedgames.tumblr.com/post/159288714430/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-series-localization)

- Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana brought by NISA. Please complain to Falcom, not XSEED (they're upset about it too). Good Japanese grammar is extremely recommended.

Pastebin (aka music): http://pastebin.com/G2mswYCt

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https://www.gog.com/game/legend_of_heroes_trails_of_cold_steel_the
https://mega.nz/#!LM4Hxb5J!0LrSUQF0yPjveDVPLSSn3Xq1i_tSwvqXHIU9Rzd3fiE
http://gematsu.com/tag/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-of-cold-steel-iii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYaV_GNqyCo
https://imgur.com/a/Pw4Cp
http://imgur.com/a/YnoXU
https://gematsu.com/2017/07/legend-heroes-trails-cold-steel-pc-launches-august-2
http://xseedgames.tumblr.com/post/163454030210/loh-trails-of-cold-steel-pc-guest-blog-2-from
http://xseedgames.tumblr.com/post/163720373505/loh-trails-of-cold-steel-pc-guest-blog-3-from
https://gematsu.com/2017/07/ys-seven-pc-first-details-trailer-screenshots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gVOBPNrNgU
http://xseedgames.tumblr.com/post/159288714430/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-series-localization)
http://pastebin.com/G2mswYCt
https://my.mixtape.moe/xycsvj.webm
https://site.douban.com/120173/widget/notes/13956519/note/311108897/
https://site.douban.com/120173/widget/notes/13956519/note/311109019/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfjn6BTe8T4&feature=youtu.be&t=2m34s
http://www.strawpoll.me/13697862
http://www.strawpoll.me/12106009
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH5HEjFHyaE
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/763235-the-legend-of-heroes-trails-of-cold-steel-ii/72957496
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4pBBzQ03mc
girlDog
girlDog

/vg/thread/185891406#p185981537
What the fuck?

WebTool
WebTool

Towa a shit.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Give it back or else she's gonna get married to Kurt.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@girlDog

don't trust anyone with a portrait

Booteefool
Booteefool

@TurtleCat
*puts crossbell inside a happy married life with Kurt*

happy_sad
happy_sad

Reminder that nitpicking Sky/Crossbell won't make Cold Steel good.

girlDog
girlDog

@Nojokur
I knew Maybelle couldn't be trusted

SniperWish
SniperWish

@happy_sad
Reminder that nitpicking CS before CS3 is out will make your arguments invalid.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@happy_sad
Cold Steel is OK, I'm certainly enjoying it, but its not as good as it predecessors.

Maybe Sen III will redeem it enough to put it on par, but I have significant doubts.

Still a good game, mind, just not meeting the high standards of Sora and Crossbell.

Nojokur
Nojokur

I enjoyed every Trails except Zero and Ao (but I think thats related to the translation quality and I'll probably enjoy it more when the translation is actually remotely good) and theres nothing you can do to stop me!

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

You are trapped in Phantasma with Renne. How do you proceed?
Your willpower is greater than her.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Fried_Sushi
Look at the OP as you consider this question.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Fried_Sushi
Headpat and hug her into submission. Then help her out of Phantasma while holding her hand.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@happy_sad
I'll probably just get called CSfag or CS apologist but my experience with the Sky games aren't that much better compared to CS. FC and 3rd are great but SC got some issues I couldn't overlook (Same with CS2). I'm not nitpicking to make CS look good, I just don't like it.

Couldn't say anything about Crossbell because I don't trust the translation.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

anikiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Garbage Can Lid
@Nojokur
CSfag running damage control

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@ZeroReborn
Why can't Crossbellfags just accept that some people like CS and thats ok?

JunkTop
JunkTop

Only 9 IPs and still fall to the bait.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

>Let Arios go free
>But they don't let Dieter go free despite being a victim

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@New_Cliche
muh power of friendship though

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Fried_Sushi
145 cm
roughly 40kg
imagine

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

we're now going through threads in less than 24 hours
Whew lads

Methnerd
Methnerd

I love Fie's midriff

TechHater
TechHater

@Poker_Star
But the consequence is that we talk about Trails all day

@Methnerd

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Pre-order her game and give her back her Crossbell.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@TechHater
Thanks man I needed that

hairygrape
hairygrape

Where the fuck is my cs3 trailer, FALCOM!?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Stark_Naked
*puts Crossbell on my dick*

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Stark_Naked
https://my.mixtape.moe/xycsvj.webm

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

I really really want to lick Fran's toes

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Booteefool
I like this post.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@happy_sad
It just annoys me when people dismiss Cold Steel for being anime when Sky had a metric shit ton of anime moments.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Lunatick
Implying that anyone who uses anime as an insult actually watches anime

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Lunatick
Crossbell is just as anime tbqh

Flameblow
Flameblow

This is Alisa. Everybody is asking about her close relationship with Instructor Rean. Say something nice about her.

FastChef
FastChef

@Lunatick
Modern anime is worse than 90s and 00s anime.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@FastChef
Found the blind nostalgiafaggot.

farquit
farquit

@Flameblow
She has great tits

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Lunatick
You're in the general where people use "weeb" as an insult. What exactly do you expect?

viagrandad
viagrandad

Is there anyway to level master quartz faster? CS I.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Lunatick
It's usually people using anime as shorthand for Cold Steel's faults. We've discussed how bad CS is for so long that it's easier to just call it anime than rehash the same arguments again and again.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@SomethingNew
This, the only actually good trails games are Third, Zero and Ao

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Lunatick
It just annoys me when people use the well x is bad so that somehow justifies y being bad too argument.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Lunatick
The problem isn't that CS is anime, it's that CS is shit.

askme
askme

Oh shit anime games are anime. Quick get the press.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@viagrandad
Purposely neglect some character so they gain more exp than usual.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@farquit
I always find it funny how much falcom stepped up their titty games from Zero forward. Pretty much everyone besides Schera and Lucciola were flat as a pancake.

WebTool
WebTool

@Fuzzy_Logic
Excuse you.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Sir_Gallonhead
"weeb" as an insult.
It is an insult. In its original meaning, that is.
At this point where it just means "anything to be related to Japan" though, not really.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Fuzzy_Logic
They probably wanted a fresh start after the mediocrity that was sky

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@WebTool
She's a special case. Someone needs to stay small and cute. Or maybe she's just not drinking enough water.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Fuzzy_Logic
Falcom were retards that didn't believe in sex appeal or good character design. Luckily they came around.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@King_Martha
This is why I hate Trails-onlies.

Techpill
Techpill

@King_Martha
I remember Falcom hide H pic in one of their earlier games.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Not sure who's serious and who's shitposting in this thread at the moment lads.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Lunatick
They're just japanese media cliche 101. I don't get why they're labeled anime games in the first place.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@girlDog
Evo sure changed some things

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Lunatick
using anime as a derogatory term in a niche JRPG general

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@girlDog
They actually made her cute instead of a violent manwoman, god bless chara ani.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Hey, stop that.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Garbage Can Lid
Go back to sleep, sexdoll.

DeathDog
DeathDog

I don't watch or even care about anime or other Japanese shitty games. Trails is the only good thing that shithole of a country has produced but they are ruining with CS. 3 will be shit as well.

TechHater
TechHater

@SomethingNew
Well, that's the nature of Veeky Forums. It's just a board to discuss about how much you hate a specific group of games

Playboyize
Playboyize

@TechHater
Its the nature of new and popular Veeky Forums generals, once a general mellows out it gets good. We are firmly in the /v/ and underageds portion of a generals life.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Playboyize
once a general mellows out it gets good
Tell me you're joking, user

eGremlin
eGremlin

@BunnyJinx
The ahoge is dumb. I know she's dumb but it makes her look even dumber.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Playboyize
Once a general lives long enough it becomes even shittier than it was before.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Garbage Can Lid
Stop what?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Deadlyinx
I'm not, theres plenty of older quieter generals that are actually good, young generals are just always shit because they're /v/ instead of having their own culture.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Randy admits to slaughtering hundreds of civilians and torching dozens of villages
Gets off scott-free because he felt based about it, and everyone is cool with it because it's in the past

Why wouldn't this work for Crow?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@whereismyname
I've yet to see one old general that's good. They're full of shitposting, drama, tripfags attention whoring, erp and so on.

Techpill
Techpill

@Playboyize
once a general mellows out it gets good
Look at the long lived generals and they've all descended into autism, tripfags, drama, and shitposting.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Spamalot
Who said it wouldn't?
He died before they could say anything.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Techpill
@Bidwell
Its only the really old generals with little to no new content like /ksg/ that devolve into that. Generals with an established culture but new content are far better than new ones which are just /v/.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Boy_vs_Girl
You also get generals like /xivg/ where all the game discussion got drowned out by ERP/Avatarfagging garbage and everyone who wanted to discuss the game left. That happens to most MMO generals really but /xivg/ is bad enough that there have been daily stealth generals on /v/ disguised as shitposting threads for months.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Boy_vs_Girl
vita is still getting games
go to vitagen
talk about a game that's also on another platform alongside Vita
get called a traitor, fag, etc. for playing such a game
port of a vita game gets announced
everyone goes apeshit
want to talk about some vidya
usually ignored because anons are busy posting anime girls and pretend that they're them

5mileys
5mileys

@Lunatick
73 uniques in under 3 hours
Falls into the popular general category, popular and new generals are shit as I said earlier. The good ones are the /civ4xg/ style ones that aren't popular enough to be /v/ and have enough content to avoid /ksg/ing.

Although you could probably change it to any general with anime girls is shit in some way.

takes2long
takes2long

@Boy_vs_Girl
The only general that is slightly ok is /vn/ imo. They're getting new VNs all the time, but they're pretty autistic as well at times. There's shitposting, drama, e-celeb posting and other things.

likme
likme

@haveahappyday
Don't even bring up vitagen

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@haveahappyday
Vitagen is hostile to everyone even Playstation owners they were wholeheartedly convinced CS was a vita exclusive.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Spamalot
It all depends on what kind of drama you want to pull so they could find a way to make Crow work. But your comparison is inherently bad cause Randy didn't just feel bad about it. He spent 2 games trying to deal with it and even run away cause he was worried he'd end up forgiving himself if he spent more time with the sss and someone like him definitely doesn't deserve that. He was never designated as the antagonist who genuinely thinks some of his actions are justified.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Ao anons, should I bother reading Hidamari no Agnes? My moonspeak is decent, but not fluent, so I was thinking of passing on this book series if they're not somehow relevant to the plot.

FastChef
FastChef

@Firespawn
I think some user said it's a foreshadowing on Hexen clan.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Firespawn
You could help translating it.

massdebater
massdebater

Reminder that Laura is playing with fire if she tries to compete too hard with Rean

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@takes2long
Theres good generals for western games and genres. Japanese game generals having a tendency to be shit might be related to the audience.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@haveahappyday
How did they amass such amount of autism in one place? I know there's some obsessive people out there, but for a system where most people poke fun of at the lack of games or exclusives?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Firespawn
Here, first read this: https://site.douban.com/120173/widget/notes/13956519/note/311108897/

And if you're still uncertain, read this next: https://site.douban.com/120173/widget/notes/13956519/note/311109019/

askme
askme

@FastChef
I see. Thanks, in this case I should check it out after all.

@StrangeWizard
Does this mean there's already a translation in the works?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Sharpcharm
but for a system where most people poke fun of at the lack of games or exclusives?
That's probably one of the reasons. Though I dunno what they expected, all Playstation consoles/handhelds get made fun of and people usually shit on them for at least the first few years after they come out. It's literally a safe space for them at this point. Their general was on the verge of death several times, dunno if they're more alive now. Some anons were talking how /vitagen/ is the only place where they talk with others, where they can express their feelings, where they feel safe and so on.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@StonedTime
That's pretty pathetic.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@StonedTime
Sounds like it went the /ksg/ route

SniperWish
SniperWish

@massdebater
Rean is a handsome man.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

My heart

MPmaster
MPmaster

@BunnyJinx
We told you it'd be worth the payoff in the end.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@StonedTime

What the fuck happened to this place. I'm only here for the falcom discussion anyways. Thank God for that.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Why is she such a slut

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@MPmaster
That's not me though. I'm the guy who said i wanted to give him a flying kick. Currently at the start of chapter 4.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

They actually killed them
What madmen.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@MPmaster
I was one of those people saying it pays off in the end though, also replaying atm.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Boy_vs_Girl

Only faceless grunts are allowed to die in Trails. Sure hope that makes you feel bad.

Illusionz
Illusionz

>>185990724
Everyone's a slut in these games.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@LuckyDusty
Okay sorry, I thought you were this guy. @New_Cliche

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@JunkTop
How could you possible forget about Otto

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Stark_Naked

He falls under the faceless crowd. If he was in sky/crossbell games he would not even have a portrait.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@RavySnake
What about V?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

This girl has stormed a 1:1 replica of hell.
How much of a bitch will she make Rean look like?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Spamalot
He grew up in the environment, and it was expected of him to do so. He realized he felt like a piece of shit and blames himself constantly for it, and made an effort to change though. Unlike Crow, who just has some petty issues to involve such a large amount of innocents into his sad excuse for a revenge plot.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Rean acts like a cunt to Celine because of what happened to Elise in Valimar's party bunker
Crow gets a free pass for everything
All that Thors Education at work

Inmate
Inmate

@BunnyJinx
She'll be the one to look like a bitch. Her orbal gear is shit compared to the knight robots.

girlDog
girlDog

@PurpleCharger
Would have a portrait, but wouldn't exist in sky/crossbell games in the first place. Writing standards of the first five games would not permit such a lazily written villain, whose only function was to block your way a few times, drop a sad backstory, then fucking die (which is why he also doesn't count).

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@girlDog
Ernest

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Inmate
I seriously don't get Orbal Gear. They wanted to make something that competes with Pater-Mater but not only does it look shittier, is smaller but is overall less powerful. Now everyone in CS3 will be getting their robots as well, so what's the point of Orbal Gear?

TechHater
TechHater

@girlDog
Who is Luciola the Jobbing Bell?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Need_TLC
Was Gnosis'd, had his mind fucked with by Joachim and developed an obsession because of that. Actually snaps out of it afterwards.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@TalkBomber
When they wrote third they probably weren't planning on making the erebonian robots so good.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@TechHater
Not dead. Her role is probably not fulfilled yet and we'll see more of her in the future games, at least to some extent.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@BinaryMan
sauce, I need it for research purpose

Playboyize
Playboyize

@TechHater
She was in crossbell and the played the illusion bell when she was supposed to have jumped

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Loewe?
>implying not dead

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Fried_Sushi
You could just find the source yourself, lazy faggot.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Inmate
Her orbal gear is shit compared to eidolon gears. She's probably using her old one because it represents her connection to Renne. At the same time, you ever see those mech animes where the ace uses an older mech and they can keep up with the newer ones? It'll probably be like that.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Fried_Sushi
Theres so few doujins with her it'll take you about 10 seconds to find it yourself

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Dreamworx
her connection to Renne
Probably the single weakest point in SC, Rean's Crow obsession makes more sense and it's pretty shoddy already.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@StrangeWizard
Her Connection to Renne is the same as Estelle's.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Lunatick
I'm askin due to not finding it. I tought I recognized the artist but and checked through sad panda but can't find the one that is from

hairygrape
hairygrape

@TalkBomber
Wanting to, doesn't mean they can. Erobonia had access to the original robots to base the current ones off them, and they had to start from scratch based only on eye witnesses.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Stupidasole
I wouldn't say so, Estelle is indirectly connected to Renne through Joshua, who has a direct connection to her and wants to save her from that path just like he got saved. Estelle sees her as just another poor soul like Joshua and she appears to be incapable of leaving people like that in their circumstances.
But Tita? They played for half a day and now they're BFFsies forever?

idontknow
idontknow

@Stupidasole
Her connection to Renne is badly written, forced as fuck and contributed to nothing. People only like it cause what's better than one cute loli?Two cute lolis.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@TalkBomber
Pater-mater kills most people that link up to it.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@StrangeWizard
Children develop friendships quickly. They were both interested in cute, girly things and while not shown, they could even probably have research institute-tier debates on orbal tech with ojust the two of them. It's not particularly odd that they were drawn to one another.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@StrangeWizard
Its not even that big, its more of a thing in the art and Third than it is in SC

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Flameblow
Tita has no friends outside of Estelle, of course she'd latch on to someone her age. especially someone that can understand her intellectually.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Dreamworx
Some kids hobby project keeping up with robots reverse engineered from advanced tech
That's so retarded that it will probably happen.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@AwesomeTucker
orbal gear
hobby project

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Lunatick
I suppose, yeah. I backtracked all the way to the Arseille to get the runt into my party for the fight at Axis Pillar, and what do I get? Basically no lines from Tita.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@TalkBomber
It'd be absolutely retarded if they could just make a Pater Mater-tier mech right off the bat. They couldn't even replicate archaisms. Literally all they had to go off of was being told about Pater Mater.

Also Orbal Gear is meant to be mass produced.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Supergrass
Because its more of a thing in the fan community than the actual game. Ingame its more Tita being upset at Renne after thinking she's her friend and some Estelle style "I still want to be your friend anyway" and thats about it. Its only forced in the fan community and marketing.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@BinaryMan

He was somewhere in the real world when Phantasma warped him in. Loewe is just hanging out chillin out maxin somewhere.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@AwesomeTucker
CSfags in charge of reading

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@BlogWobbles
maxin somewhere
current year
doesn't even have max cape
Loewe is such a shitter, bet he doesn't even have questcape.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@TalkBomber
She's asking Erebonian SCIENCE for help to make it better

It wasn't all that great to begin with because lol Erika lol, but what's the point of trying to compete against the 13 Factories without experiments and trials?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@w8t4u
Erika literally designed it to keep boyfriends away.

Methshot
Methshot

post YFW there's a scene where Tita takes on a divine knight 1-on-1 with her orbal gear and wins

Lunatick
Lunatick

I'm sad that whatever the deal's going to be with Siegfried, Towa is going to take the brunt of it. After all the shit she went through over the course of two games, none of which she was responsible for, I can see her breaking under the stress. Part of me would like to see a mindbroken, ballistic Towa, though.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Methshot
She will defeat it with the power of all of her new Class VII friends cheering her on!

SniperGod
SniperGod

Any downside for not getting all 440 AP points in CS? Max rank tops out at 430 AP and I just found out I missed 4 AP in Chapter 4 before the field study and I really don't want to have to redo that shit.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@ZeroReborn

Be away from your 10 year old for important work
Come home
Find out some pedo fuck is grooming your child and your grandpa was okay with it

Erika has all the reason to autistically screech at Agate.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Methshot
still not disasterous as Fie beating Shirley in 1v1

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Methshot
After CS I've just accepted my fate.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@King_Martha
Agate is a gentlemen, go home Erika

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Methshot
Maybe not win, but at least toe to toe for a bit. Then agate jumps in like Balgus and cuts off the arm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfjn6BTe8T4&feature=youtu.be&t=2m34s

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Methshot
They have weak joints, she could purposely aim for those.

likme
likme

@King_Martha
leave your child to grow up alone because muh science
have a right to complain about how things turned up

pedo fuck is grooming
literally never shows any romantic interest >tita and half of the case is bullying him into it

Bidwell
Bidwell

@King_Martha
Agate just wants a little sister again, why can't you all just leave him alone and let him non-sexually dote on Tita

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@SniperGod
Pretty sure it's not necessary, aside from the fact you missed on a sidequest or something.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@hairygrape
It's perfectly reasonable to believe that one girl raised as a Jaeger would be capable of defearting another girl raised as a Jaeger, especially after what she went through in CS1 and 2. It's not like she's some newbie fighter who's never seen combat before.

The only reason why you think Fie beating Shirley is a bad thing is because you have been conditioned to believe that the good guys always have to be individually weak compared to the bad guys. That's not necessarily the case.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@AwesomeTucker
Shirley is shown to be FAR stronger than Fie.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@AwesomeTucker
no no no no! CS cast doesn't deserve to win!!!

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@RavySnake
Shirley is shown to be FAR stronger than Fie.
Not true. She hasn't been shown to be any such thing.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@AwesomeTucker
especially after what she went through in CS1 and 2
so like pretty much nothing to write home about?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Crazy_Nice
She was in Zero/Ao. That makes her 100x times better than Fie and the other faggots from CS

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

How far am I roughly through Cold Steel? I'm in Chapter 6 right now, which is September and the plot point at the time is everyone is unsure of what to do for the School's summer festival.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@TurtleCat
@GoogleCat
false flag bait smells so hard here

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Poker_Star
There's 7 chapters.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Boy_vs_Girl
Its probably not falseflag, its probably people sick of crossbellfags.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@AwesomeTucker
especially after what she went through in CS1 and 2
Like what?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@PurpleCharger
@PackManBrainlure
Play the games

MPmaster
MPmaster

@eGremlin
You are also trying to stir shit for no reason you know.

WebTool
WebTool

@eGremlin
How do they do it? I hated JOPs and then CSfags, but crossbellfags take the cake so far.
There's no one more annoying than them.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@eGremlin
It's buttdevastated CSfags, they can't admit that their precious characters are weak and shit as fuck.

Bidwell
Bidwell

I hope you guys don't seriously believe that. Sure, Fie is not pushover, but she had to be fought by the Ao team, and had 2 powerful beats helping her, and she's the final boss of one of the sections of the final dungeon. Randy lost to her 1v1 and he's a fucking monster too.
To boot, she has now gone through Enforcer training, and trained with other members too.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@lostmypassword
I'm sure getting that piggyback ride was a deciding factor

massdebater
massdebater

@MPmaster
I'm just explaining their reasoning

TreeEater
TreeEater

@AwesomeTucker
It's perfectly reasonable to believe that one girl raised as a Jaeger would be capable of defearting another girl raised as a Jaeger

One girl actively participated in numerous battlefields to hone her skills. The other was taught the skills, but babied away from the slaughter. There's a clear gap between Shirley and Fie.

idontknow
idontknow

@TreeEater
The other was taught the skills, but babied away from the slaughter.
Only when she was a real loli

you think she never fought? please. Maybe you should play the games because they specifically clarify that she eventually fought just like any other jaeger.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@lostmypassword
I did. As far as I recall, Fie befriended Laura in the first game and met her old friends in the second. Did I forget something?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

CS vs Crossbell again

likme
likme

@SniperGod
um yeah you forgot basically the plot of the entire game. fuck off dude.

this shit is why nobody takes irrational CS haters seriously.

Techpill
Techpill

@idontknow
Not that user, but they kept her out of the real nasty shit too. Shirley on the other hand, was raised by a bunch of psychos and fought on the battlefield since young. Have you seen the size of the weapon she carries? She can use that shit with one hand.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@WebTool
At least some of them have to be falseflagging, I refuse to believe its possible for someone to be that obnoxious by accident. The CSfags around when the general was started were cancerous but this is on a whole different level.

My favourite was the guy who agreed with the Zero translation update that Lloyd was the best protagonist ever.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@WebTool
i hate those people
and those people
oh and those too
Sounds like a personal problem to me.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@likme
Skyfag falseflagging as CSfag

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

You should all kill yourselfs quite honestly. It's like there's no middle ground with you guys, it's either i hate this arc and like the other, and then it's blind hate thrown at anyone with a different view on it.

It maybe come as a surprise to all of you that people like different shit and don't enjoy what you may like.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@New_Cliche
It's not like I hate them, it's that they're annoying as fuck at times. JOPs shitposted in these threads for years, then CSfags claimed it was the best game ever and got into arguments with Skyfags, now that people played Crossbell there's tons of Crossbellfags claiming their games are the best and starting fights.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Lord_Tryzalot
Actually the only ones that are the problem are the irrational CS haters. Everyone else likes all the Trails games. There is just a loud minority of people who hate cold steel for some reason while everyone else tells them to fuck off.

5mileys
5mileys

@PackManBrainlure
The JOPs are probably the crossbellfags, they have a habit of turning any comparison or criticism into "well you're just an eop CSfag secondary"

takes2long
takes2long

@Bidwell

Randy lost to her 1v1

He only lost because his Chainsaw rifle was inferior.

Inmate
Inmate

People actually defending Cold Steel
So this is the power of Steam weebs... Such a terrifying ability...

Spamalot
Spamalot

@5mileys
Some of them probably are. They've always hyped up crossbell and laughed at EOPs that they'll never play the best arc ever.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Spazyfool
Stop assuming, you're part of the problem too fuck face, when i said there's no middle ground this is what i meant. You can't honestly believe everyone enjoyed sky out of pre conceived notion that it was perfect because you thought so, most people just don't enjoy going on about the things they hate like you autists.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Spazyfool
It might just be a vocal subset but lately I've seen the crossbellfags shit on Sky and CS, the most vocal 'nothing happens in FC and most of SC' people tend to be crossbellfags in my experience.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Snarelure
My favourite was the guy who agreed with the Zero translation update that Lloyd was the best protagonist ever.
Yeah. I also feel like most of the people here never play many games outside of Trails and maybe Ys.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@takes2long
I don't think his rifle was ever a chainsaw though, it has a giant imbued knife in it.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@5mileys
Because some of it it's true. You do understand you cannot fully judge a game you haven't fully played right? And yet people keep doing it.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Lord_Tryzalot
If all of us adopted the middle ground viewpoint, what would we even talk about?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@RavySnake
What the fuck are you even talking about, retard? You're not even making a coherent point.

The point is that most Trails fans enjoyed ALL the trails games. The only ones making a big stink are people who irrationally hate cold steel for some reason. It's not "everyone."

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@PackManBrainlure
Not even games, that claim implies they barely even consume media.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@MPmaster

Exactly, Shirley's toy was even named Testarossa and has some fuckery to it.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Sir_Gallonhead
Could be. A few guys said they don't consume Japanese media for all that matter aside from a few games. Could be the same with western one for all we know.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Spazyfool
Stop acting like irrational CSfags aren't equally bad. Every time someone complains about their game they keep answering with b-but your sky/crossbell is shit too cause they have no actual arguments to defend their games.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Evil_kitten
um no.. We defend cold steel all the time, but the haters refuse to listen or even acknowledge our points. Whatever. The point is that it's not the Trails fans causing problems, it is the haters

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Crazy_Nice
It makes perfect sense actually. If you haven't really watched anime or played those kind of games then you'll enjoy cs more cause it won't look so cliche and bad.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@happy_sad
He was referring to crossbellfags

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@happy_sad
I do have a preference, i'm just tired of people shitting on each other and plunging the thread into the depths of shitposting as if it's going to change anything. It's literally nothing but people assuming that it's all Crossbellfags or others blaming those as being CSfags, and that CS was hated since forever, when i used to visit the thread, and it was a handful of autists shitting on it just like now.

TechHater
TechHater

@happy_sad
This guy @JunkTop
is right. The people who said they don't watch anime, don't read manga and don't consume other Japanese media either, shat on CS at the time. Said they hate CS because of all the cliches and it's one of the reasons why they don't watch anime/read manga.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@happy_sad
actually if you don't know jack shit about anime then you're more likely to dislike cold steel because you think that sky and crossbell are somehow immune to having anime tropes in them. In reality, those two games are just as tropey as cold steel, just with different tropes.

Underage retards wouldn't understand because they don't know jack shit about 90's anime or JRPGs.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Evil_kitten
You poor victim. I'll make sure to look for these points next time someone complains about cs and its fans jump with zero arguments and start shitting on sky and zero/ao.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Nude_Bikergirl
The comments that shit on sky tend to be really similar to the comments that shit on CS and often go on about how great Crossbell is, I'd class them as crossbellfags

hairygrape
hairygrape

What a shit thread.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Crazy_Nice
Theres a lot of blind hate for western media in anime communities, especially on Veeky Forums. Someone who has played Crossbell is probably more likely to fall into that category so theres no doubt people like that here.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Sir_Gallonhead
Or maybe they just enjoy the older anime tropes present in Sky and Crossbell more than the modern tropes present in CS?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Calvard when?

5mileys
5mileys

@RumChicken
Then they wouldn't be using "muh tropes" to criticize Cold Steel, unless they're fucking shameless hypocrites anyway

MPmaster
MPmaster

@hairygrape
Just wait until we get the games in other regions of Zemuria.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@5mileys
Ok. I'll make sure to always say muh modern tropes.

Booteefool
Booteefool

http://www.strawpoll.me/13697862

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Booteefool
Where's the "falseflaggers" option because those are the worst, regardless of their main preference.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

You guys seem to be wasting your time here. I mean, i played through all the games and i know for a fact it's all tropey as fuck ever since sky FC even. It makes up for it by making the characters nice, having development, enriching the world with good NPCS, foreshadowing and etc. I've yet to finish CS but so far i'm liking it, and i think you guys are trying too hard to prove a point in here.

Or maybe i'm just too easy going, so it's easy for me to enjoy all of them.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@MPmaster
if you want edgy muh realism military games just play westernshit, the leman arc isn't even trails
fucking calvard forcing a shit girl, people only like it because its after CS
Remiferia is so boring and its full of 2030's anime tropes

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Sharpcharm
99% of trails fans loved every trails game they played. It's just that little 1% who are loud as fuck that ruin it for everyone else.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@kizzmybutt
This.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

You will never know about Crows excellent adventures with proto-Class VII
You will never know what romcom adventures Crow had with Vita
You will never get a game about the migrant problems of Calvard
You will never get a game about the Septian Church sending missionaries to the uncultured east
You will never get a game about the intense struggles of the Northern Ambria
You will never know if Nayuta is canon or not since it takes place in some distant sea
You will never get Juna back her Corussuberu

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Daily reminder that "crossbellfags" is just a polite word for "autistic nipfags"

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Sharpcharm
It works like this:
Someone plays through trails and enjoys all of them with some favourite
They then encounter someone saying something bad about their favourite game
"Well its the same in crossbell/cs/sky"
From here it turns into attacking the other game
Then you end up with people despising the games they still enjoyed but weren't there favourite because they've argued about how bad they are.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@kizzmybutt
Pretty much

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Evil_kitten
The last one is factually wrong.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@kizzmybutt
@Crazy_Nice
And "crossbellhaters" is just a polite word for jealous and petty EOPs. You gotta love it when no one can win.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

You know North Ambria is really close to Northumbria (some people even pronounce them the same), the kanji(?) for it are almost identical. Did they just steal the name of the objectively best area of British countryside?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@happy_sad
I think some anons, especially on /v/, let themselves get swayed too much by what others tell them in these threads. It's like they grow jaded thanks to that and just follow what the mass are saying. I mean, i used to see some people talk about how "CSfags" would ruin everything once it launched on PC, and it didn't happen, and now it's swaying in another direction.

People should try to form their own opinions instead of going by what others are saying. Hell, some of the ones spreading the "X is the worst" probably didn't even play the games.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Skullbone
But we can play them in English.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@CouchChiller

They stole everything. Liberl is just fantasy Thailand

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@New_Cliche
The internet has a habit of changing "its ok" to "its the worst thing ever", its best to make your own decisions

I know this feeling very well as someone that actually prefers the current Sci-fi Call of Duties over the MW2-Ghosts era. Still can't beat Cod 2 and UO though

Snarelure
Snarelure

@New_Cliche
I think some anons, especially on /v/, let themselves get swayed too much by what others tell them in these threads
some of the ones spreading the "X is the worst" probably didn't even play the games.
These are known facts. /v/ has almost daily jade/cynical/tired gamer threads where they talk how vidya has become shit and how it ruined their whole lives when they're the ones who fucked it all up and became jaded. People shitting on games they've never played has also been a thing for a long time. There was also this poll on /v/.

idontknow
idontknow

@TreeEater
Yes keep telling that to yourself.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@TreeEater
But the name is almost identical, they didn't call Liberl, Tieland. Its mildly irritating to see an area of constant beauty have its name stolen by something turned to salt.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Snarelure
Wheres that screenshot with the guy going on about how he was the most vocal person to shit on a game and after being able to afford and play it he actually realised it was good.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Snarelure
I found it.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12106009

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Burnblaze
It's all right. I'm sure it's a nice place now that Erebonia is in charge.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Methnerd
I got you, senpai

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Booteefool
option 4: all EOPs
we all got along fine despite our favorites until EOPs came along and started creating factions amongst themselves they could war over

it's like Gunbuster vs Diebuster
how retarded do you even have to be to see them as two separate entities and not one whole, which it is?
they're all Trails and are all good because Falcom makes good games, but EOPs hate fun and thus argue about everything

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@CouchChiller
I'm hoping when its shown in CS3 that it is super nice or I'll be really quite upset!

farquit
farquit

@GoogleCat
Thanks lad

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Evil_kitten
You will never know what romcom adventures Crow had with Vita

I wonder about this. Wouldn't they have gone on these adventures while Loewe was still alive? And Vita has admittedly stated to have wanted to fuck him.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Harmless_Venom
user, i'm pretty sure threads on 2ch also shit hard on everything, in fact their shitposting is atrociously worse if they want it to be.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Nude_Bikergirl
The Japanese are infamous for their aggressive shitposting

Methnerd
Methnerd

I think I would quite enjoy a spin off prequel for Sky set during the hundred days in the style of Babylon 5: In the Beginning or even Dunkirk

For bonus points Sky is basically the Babylon 5 of JRPGs so by law it has to have a prequel set in an important war!

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@StrangeWizard

Crow was just a replacement white hair fuccboi for Vita

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Methnerd
I'd rather play a game with Cassius in Calvard.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Neat i get to intervene.

massdebater
massdebater

@farquit
I bet if this happened in every thread we wouldn't have all of these problems

DeathDog
DeathDog

Approaching CS1 endgame. Should I give Emma Criminal/Fire Bell for fat DPS nuking or Aries/Water Bell for more self-sustainable nuking with lower DPS?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@massdebater
fuck off back to your containment board retard

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@massdebater
You mean to say that /u/ is the solution to everything wrong with /fg/?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Needs to draw something important to him as part of the art club's assignment
Draws Rean

Gaius i know you probably mean it in the friends way, but that's kinda gay.

Methshot
Methshot

@massdebater
More /u/ shitters would make it worse.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@DeathDog
I'm a fan of wing with with wind bell, an extra accessory slot and healing from breath and holy breath.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Sharpcharm
/u/ is the solution to nearly all problems, if people just read more yuri manga the world would be a better, happier place.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Lord_Tryzalot
waxes poetically about his family, his home, the wind
but obviously rean is most important
This part was so stupid but I didn't mind cause I love him, no homo.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Deadlyinx
I will never not laugh at loss.

cum2soon
cum2soon

We need to immediately purge the yurishitters before they destroy /fg/ like they tried to do with nepgen. We need to eliminate them with no mercy

DeathDog
DeathDog

@DeathDog
Well, he's not that good at drawing so he needed a model to work off on his painting so it makes sense.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Deadlyinx
Can somebody explain? I'm at a loss.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Sir_Gallonhead
an extra accessory slot
???

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@FastChef
Oh yeah I watch anime but nothing beyond 2007. Nineties anime is my favorite. I'm also a plotfag and anime today doesn't care for story telling.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Sharpcharm
/u/ is the solution to everything

girlDog
girlDog

ALL

Zero/Ao had a spell to cast reflect on yourself, but not one for everyone. This thing sounds broken against Arts casters.

5mileys
5mileys

@girlDog
user, the Cold Steel combat system is so breakable that you don't even need to use anything defensive at all. You can annihilate everything with a pure offensive attack in a matter of seconds.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@girlDog
It's easier to use Emma's craft desu.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@girlDog
CS gameplay is fun but it's still too dumbed down and easy to break.

Techpill
Techpill

@Sir_Gallonhead
I'm glad she's still gay

Hopefully she'll be permanent in CS3 or at least playable more often
I say that more because she's the arc's mandatory Taito user than because she's gay, but having a comic relief lesbian around is nice too

Flameblow
Flameblow

@girlDog
Who cares, CS is so easy you can do anything and still win.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@DeathDog
"Hey Gaius, I saw some windmills and they reminded me of you"

Gaius was literally meme-tier for CS1 and 2.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@ZeroReborn
So far the only defensive craft i have for Emma is the one that increases defense to 50%. Not as good as Elliot's since the one he has give regen too.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Sir_Gallonhead
@Techpill
Angelica was pretty shitty yuri bait desu.
She was more annoying than I thought she would be.

I like to think Claire and Sara just go at eachother like once a month or something.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@iluvmen
Yuribait more refers to making 2 girls say things to each other that can potentially be construed as romantic interest without ever doing anything to remotely confirm it, if it wasn't for third I'd say Maybelle and Lila fall into that category. Angelica is a comic relief gay.

massdebater
massdebater

@girlDog
Just wait until CS2. Emma and Jusis will never, ever, at all leave your party again.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@BlogWobbles
I undertand the difference, but CS doesnt really have anyone that falls into the latter category.

Except for maybe the senoirs on the lacrosse team.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Spamalot
Luckily the power of fan translators can't be contained.

Falcom is kinda shit and will never translate the games themselves so somebody had to step up.

Methshot
Methshot

@SomethingNew
Except for actually delivering on time, fan translators are incapable of that

Still mad about amagami.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@SomethingNew
Falcom doesn't have manpower to translate games into English. And you don't want to read Falcom's Engrish. Trust me.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Methshot
Fan translations that set a time date for their own stuff should not do that, there's always a problem that could happen. Adopting a format that says how much of the text is translated works better like the ones working on Zero/Ao.

Emberburn
Emberburn

As someone who played through FC, SC, and 3rd all on Hard Difficulty, what difficulty should I go for Cold Steel?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Carnalpleasure
not liking Falcom's glorious Engrish

Cashius bright would be ashamed of you, user

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Methshot
Still mad about amagami
We all are friend

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Emberburn
Hard for sure. Id say nightmare, but it might be more annoying than challenging.

Also hard isnt that hard, anything that isnt a boss is a joke.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Deadlyinx
When they don't set targets and dates they manage to do even worse.

@Spamalot
Its just not fair, then to top it all off my favourite girl is the only one that hasn't had the first round of translation finished, its already bad enough that I had to deal with what the anime did to her and now this.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@farquit
Is there gay marriage in Zemuria? If so these two deserve a beautiful ceremony in the Grancel cathedral.

Booteefool
Booteefool

That McBurn vs Viscount Arseid fight
That wasn't half bad, although I do want to know more about these Divergent Laws shit.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Emberburn
Nightmare

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Emberburn
There's not much difference between easy and nightmare so any difficulty is fine.

WebTool
WebTool

What the fuck
you don't get the AP if you didn't actually read the book
That's gay, i talked to the NPCs but didn't realize there is more books now.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Skullbone
user, she's the mayor, she can do whatever she wants

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@New_Cliche
Even though its simple I love that art and I love your filenames even more

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Illusionz
Reminds me of this.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@New_Cliche
dumb y/u/rifag

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Methshot

They are not getting paid to do the amount of work professionals do so no wonder many of they just half ass it and then disappear.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@ZeroReborn
thanks oneesama

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Lord_Tryzalot
Since when were emojis valid filenames?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Methshot
Sometimes fan translators deliver. Sometimes they don't.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Emberburn
I'm currently playing Cold steel, and it's really fun. It's not as hard as past entries, so it's fine to start out in that difficulty.

farquit
farquit

@Skullbone

There should be an arc about gay pride parades and how it spreads degeneracy in some pagan state.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@JunkTop
They work on a surprising amount of filesystems.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Lord_Tryzalot
It's time to accept your moon overlords.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Booteefool
We all do. I bet we may get some hints in CS 3, since it's going to be the first game revealing some of the plot points.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@farquit
implying that won't be what happens in the Unconverted East during the Calvard arc

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@GoogleCat
I meant to add, on nightmare.

Snarelure
Snarelure

ALL OF ME on Gnosis when?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Poker_Star
I know that Mcburn is supposed to be strong and all but all of the silly shit that they dumped on him like being mixed, divergent laws and being Loewe's "rival" in a sense makes me wonder just how badly Loewe was holding himself back when he fought us at Axis Pillar.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Snarelure
gnosis would do nothing for him because he is more purely demonic than anyone who takes gnosis could ever be. He's like someone who already took gnosis on steroids.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@New_Cliche
Ha ha epic. Isn't this what California did? Just legalise it and leave the rest of the country seething in impotent rage.

Snarelure
Snarelure

I didnt know about the timeline stuff in Trails until reading about it here, and now I cant help but wonder.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@BlogWobbles
But Massachusetts legalized it four years before CA did

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@JunkTop
They're just unicode characters

idontknow
idontknow

@haveahappyday
I don't think he was his rival. They just sparred sometimes.

askme
askme

@SniperGod
Fan translators work on games that are not economically feasible for an official release.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

This kid is desperate.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@haveahappyday

being Loewe's "rival" in a sense makes me wonder just how badly Loewe was holding himself back when he fought us at Axis Pillar.

Mcburn is a shit swordsman, which is why Viscount Arseid could hold him back. Likewise, Loewe could stand his own with his skill. The thing about the Axis pillar was that he was beat on a philosophical plane as he still had plenty of more fighting ability to bring to the table as shown in the final boss fight.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@idontknow
Walter is the only confirmed member of Ouroboros that Loewe didn't give a chance to fight

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@askme
I would buy so many copies of Amagami if it had an official release that I would single handedly make it feasible

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@JunkTop
walter just wants to find a good fight

WebTool
WebTool

What about the children? This family makes me sad still.

askme
askme

@SniperGod
@idontknow
Oh its just the classic, power vs skill thing as usual. I guess that's how we'll beat him for real at the end.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@haveahappyday
Well, he literally just stood up with a "I was just testing you" after you win the fight in SC, so probably a lot. Even against Joshua, he didn't even do the power charge aura until halfway, and at that point he dominated the fight until Joshua defeated his ideals instead of his strength.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Spamalot

Randy didn't try to get a job in one of the places he'd torched (at least as far as I remember he hadn't hit Crossbell before)

Crow definitely could have escaped reprisal and gone off to redeem himself somewhere. The problem was taking him back to the academy in the country he'd already caused plenty of trouble for in order to graduate and join their military.

That wouldn't have really flown in any circumstance, barring a noble alliance victory.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@WebTool
Their son is autistic as well. He only cares about his studies and doesn't give a shit about his parents or his sister. Their daughter is ok, I guess.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@PurpleCharger
Their daughter is only ok because she hangs out with Kenny all the time

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@SniperGod
I think you still have to give Joshua some props for disarming Loewe after shaking him philosophically.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@PurpleCharger
He also stopped attending Sunday school and all the other kids think he's a stuck up kid for being a little smarter than everyone else. Meanwhile he apparently feels like he wants friend despite that.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@RavySnake
There's no rule that says you join the military, and publicly his situation is about as scandalous as Rufus, or possibly less, given they're both prominent members of a group that started a civil war but switched sides to end it. Any number of silly anime justifications would work.

Inmate
Inmate

@RavySnake
The problem is that, Randy grew up in the environment and was directly the son of of the red constellation's leader, so it was kinda hard for him not to be influenced, when he finally snapped out of it and started to regret it and feel like a piece of shit, he departed and went to try and bury that past behind, and change, with the fear of forgetting what he had done.

Meanwhile while completely unfair, and deserving of punishment, Crows actions were done with him growing up in a normal environment, and yet he still found it perfectly ok to help out Ouroboros, and fuck up innocent people, and even kill some for the sake of his revenge, and he still acts like a smug asshole despite that.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Inmate
Does Crow actually kill anyone who isn't a soldier?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

where can I watch sen no kiseki NG+ scenes?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I like his slow, but steady development. I guess he grew up with people wanting to get on his good side with second intentions so he's always pushing other nobles aside.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Is this mindbreak?

farquit
farquit

@GoogleCat
I'm at the start of chapter 6 and I've found Cold Steel 1 nightmare to he harder than sora overall personally.
Sora had a really hard early game on nightmare but after that it isn't that challenging except for a few specific upsets. Nothing will ever be as broken as Earth Wall spam and Rean wishes that he could be half as broken as gladiator Kevin was.

Some of the old school house bosses were pretty challenging and Angelica caught me offguard with her 10k+ damage s-craft. Cold Steel has a weird boss balance where they're either challenging or they're a complete joke with no in-between.

Though honestly I'm probably downplaying how long you have to play before you can just spam earth wall unendingly.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

So is it even revealed who shot down the Liberation Fronts aircraft with the AMR in CSI?

I'm almost done with NG+ and i still haven't figured it out.

farquit
farquit

@farquit
Gladiator Kevin isn't even as broken as Colonel 'Don't call me colonel' Richard

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@hairygrape
I'm still disappointed that Dorothy never wrote or talked about writing JusisxMachias fanfics

Playboyize
Playboyize

Wew

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiSHB3tcUlM

Neat

JunkTop
JunkTop

@SomethingNew
Crow, why he just left the gun there though I dont know.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

CS2 when

idontknow
idontknow

@Deadlyinx
Not quite sure what I half watched tbqh

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Burnblaze
almost year ago

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Deadlyinx
Was I supposed to be surprised Hiemdallr is going to be one of the cities or something?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@SomethingNew
It's supposed to be Crow, although that doesn't make a great deal of sense with how he immediately turns up with George and Olivert. Remote activation would be more believable.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Burnblaze
When you emulate it.

TechHater
TechHater

@idontknow
It's basically trying to confirm where each screenshot for Sen III takes place at.

girlDog
girlDog

@TechHater
Ahhhhh

Bidwell
Bidwell

I read somewhere that CS2's final boss fights force you to use everyone but is it everyone including the people at the start of the Infernal Palace or is it just the 6 that I brought with Rean?

Evilember
Evilember

@Spamalot

Crow doesn't want that since After CS1, Crow had done what he set out to do and was as hollow as S and V was, the only reason he had for going on was to help out Vita who had helped him out for several years[/spoilers]

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@farquit
Delay spam trivializes most of CS from what I remember. There was only ever 1 or 2 bosses that were immune to it.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@happy_sad
Well going to one of the outer suburbs of Heimdallr is new but I guess not user.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Bidwell

Everyone. As in those on standby as well.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Inmate

Crow was only 13 when he was taken by Cayenne and Vita to start planning for what would eventually be their Noble Alliance rebellion.

That's not quite being raised on the battle field since birth but he was still a kid that didn't know how to handle the shock of having his family ruined being talked into violence.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@w8t4u
But my save.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@PackManBrainlure
Then I guess you'll just have to wait

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Fuzzy_Logic
his family ruined
His grandfather died peacefully during retirement after Erebonia Made Jurei Great Again

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@PackManBrainlure
It won't take long for them to complete, so probably at the first blank space in their release schedule.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Burnblaze

His grandfather died in despair after being publically disgraced and losing everything he'd spent his life working for.

Jurai getting richer off Osborne's blood money isn't a good thing if you actually have pride and integrity.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Burnblaze
You know your idiotic posturing has never been entertaining, right? Fuck off.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Emberfire
He wasnt disgraced, he was forced to step down.
Jurei was in shambles and the livelihood of all its people are more important than the one.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Sir_Gallonhead
I think she did at some point in CSI. I'm not sure if it was one of Emma's events or something else.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

I'm not sure if they intended it, but that's a very smug face.

Illusionz
Illusionz

muh erebonia
muh divine knights
meanwhile entire erebonian army vs 1 aion...

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Sir_Gallonhead
Thats because Dorothee has good taste in BL

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Sir_Gallonhead
not even close

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Sir_Gallonhead
Don't worry, it stops being smug in third.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Lunatick
It's true that Crow x Rean is the patrician ship.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Illusionz
Remember, they had a power source to work off. Otherwise they'd be on the same level i think.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Supergrass
@lostmypassword
Get a load of these guys.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Emberfire
You should try to avoid avatarfagging.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Garbage Can Lid
implying thats avatarfagging

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Garbage Can Lid
That's not really avatar fagging user.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@ZeroReborn
@hairygrape
I've been here for over a month. I think I know what's avatarfagging, idiots..

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@hairygrape
It's just a friendly warning to a local shitposter.

massdebater
massdebater

@SniperGod
1/10

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@massdebater
@SniperGod
Oh nevermind you weren't the original guy, I'm retarded

Lunatick
Lunatick

@SniperGod
can't even match the grammar
Sad!

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@SniperGod
..

Ok sure.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@SomethingNew
Well everyone has the best weapons from the shop and their arcus setup is fairly okay as well. I'll just go finish grinding up a few MQs then.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

It's a pop idol concert episode
Ugh. Kill me.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@BunnyJinx
T-thats not an actual line of dialogue is it?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@BunnyJinx
Don't worry user, it won't last too long and you'll be free.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@BinaryMan
You're not surprised by a female character commenting on another female character's breasts in anime, are you?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@BunnyJinx
I wonder if they sang in Japanese, considering that most of them can sing.
@BinaryMan
It probably is, but I'm not suprised.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@viagrandad
Thats not the problem, thats really not the problem.

Techpill
Techpill

@viagrandad
watching anime
fucking weebs, I swear

MPmaster
MPmaster

@SniperWish
She's called nep for a reason

w8t4u
w8t4u

@viagrandad
I'm sorry, I think you meant "modern" anime.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@BunnyJinx
The real problem with Tokyo Xanadu that for some reason doesn't constantly get brought up is the 37 idol concerts.

girlDog
girlDog

@w8t4u
Why have you put modern in scare quotes

MPmaster
MPmaster

@New_Cliche
37 idol concerts
Theres not actually thirty-seven idol concerts is there?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@RumChicken
wtf? delete this

RavySnake
RavySnake

@w8t4u
I wonder if they sang in Japanese, considering that most of them can sing.
They do, but it's like... a 10 second except?

@BinaryMan
It's really and so is the scene.

@New_Cliche
Well, doesn't that game drop all pretenses of being anything but a high school battle manga and just rolls with it? After all, pic related.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@RavySnake
It's really and so is the scene.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@MPmaster
No, but there are more than you would probably expect and a lot more scenes with idols being idols than you wanted.

massdebater
massdebater

@RumChicken
I like this one more.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@RumChicken
I love seeing nostalgiafags get blown the fuck out.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@RumChicken
The SCAR is a funny looking gun

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@RumChicken
What a nicely constructed purposely misleading image.

Techpill
Techpill

@CodeBuns
Why are you surprised?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@w8t4u

Falcom may be Falcom but they aren't that rich yet. It was the same low budget affair that kinda gets a small cringe from people playing it.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@King_Martha
She's 12 in FC/SC, 13 in 3rd and apparently 16 in Sen III.

Also, man, poor Agate gets a bad rep. He just sees her as a little sister, it is everyone else who ships them. (And probably Tita, but she's too much of a sperg to realise it).

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Lord_Tryzalot
The anime version of Steins;Gate will never not make me angry.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Lord_Tryzalot
Bottom line is that, every era has shit in it. People just like to pretend there isn't because they happen to prefer something in that timeline.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Lord_Tryzalot
different genres
extreme color contrast to trick idiots
implying half of the shit on the right was any good either
The lengths this chart goes too to divert attentions from the ton of modern ln battle harems and moe girls doing moe shit never fails to amuse me. Just accept there's always bad and good anime and enjoy whatever you like already.

takes2long
takes2long

@New_Cliche
Its the same with every medium, shit stuff gets forgotten and only the good stuff is remembered.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Fuck, i should have saved.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Spazyfool
Just accept there's always bad and good anime and enjoy whatever you like already.
But thats literally the point of the image, its satirising the "WHAT HAPPEN?!?!?!" images, its deliberately absurd to make that obvious.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Why is Estelle so violent?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@CodeBuns
I have no faith left in humans so I'm sure there's people who unironically believe these kind of images.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Raving_Cute
Sexual frustration.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Poker_Star
People believe the unironic "what happen?!?!" images, nearly everyone else isn't autistic enough to think images like @Lord_Tryzalot
are serious

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@SniperGod
Do you think she uses that big long pole to help relieve some of that frustration

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Stark_Naked

That's sin and will get you into Gehenna.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Alan is cute!

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@whereismyname
If sex or masturbation was a sin in the church then I don't think Ein Selnate would dress the way she does

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@CodeBuns
I don't see anything inherently sexual here. Perhaps you are projecting your urges and fetishes user.

5mileys
5mileys

@VisualMaster
Ein Selnate is pure sex user, just look at how high that gap on the skirt cloth thing rides, is there even anything behind it? We just don't know and you'll find out after a night with her in a seedy erebonian hotel room.

Methshot
Methshot

For fuck's sake Alan.

RavySnake
RavySnake

I want to cuck Hugo.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@WebTool
Welcome to falcom gakuen school life, i hope you enjoy your stay.

likme
likme

Do you think Toval did it with Carnelia?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@likme
Her little swaying animation is cute as fuck.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Oh boy, i hope i get to see his reaction after his fight with Friedel.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@PackManBrainlure
1280x720
Is that your native resolution or is your screenshot program downscaling them?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

The Renne was a prostitute meme wasn't a meme.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Carnalpleasure
You know its coming but that door still hits you like a brick

JunkTop
JunkTop

Haha. Poor Makarov.

girlDog
girlDog

@Carnalpleasure
I want to purchase some of her services!

Bidwell
Bidwell

@JunkTop
I want to fuck Mary.

takes2long
takes2long

@RumChicken
I'm downscalling because my PC is a toaster.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Carnalpleasure

It was her pleasure.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I'm surprised Elliot has the energy to remain standing when Rean and Gaius did the same thing.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@takes2long
Oh dear

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Oh god. Like an hour into Cold Steel and it's already a disaster.

Teehee I'm a lesbian and want to molest all the girls
GRRRR NOBLES
TCH, COMMONERS
Literally a blonde twin-tail who gets mad at the horribly wet blanket MC for having his face stuffed in her chest by accident
"Does anyone else here think we shouldn't leave these GIRRRRRRRRRLS alone? You know because they're defenseless GIRRRRRRRRLS?" (what is this the fucking 90s?)
But surprise, she's not a defenseless girl. In fact she has a sword so fucking stupidly huge that makes absolutely no sense for her size

I mean I guess I kind of like Elliot because he's a bro and hasn't made me mad yet? Reminder that I said basically nothing about Rean because there's really nothing to say.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Bidwell
It runs good enough despite that, was surprised by that.

Methnerd
Methnerd

How did we get from pic related to this: @BlogWobbles

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Lunatick
Its a really good port

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@BlogWobbles
Complaining about the girl bit

Lloyd did the exact same things at certain points, despite knowing they can care for themselves.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Methnerd
That transparency is neato

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@BlogWobbles
Keep going user for this is your Trial of Cold Steel to overcome.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@BlogWobbles
what is this the fucking 90s

idontknow
idontknow

You didn't say that last time, Anton. Hmmmm...

takes2long
takes2long

@Fried_Sushi
Thankfully Sky had a mildly psychopathic girl as its protag so we avoided all of this because otherwise Estelle would have beat them all up.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@BlogWobbles
A bunch of kids starting highschool are narrowminded shitters in need of growth
Who would have thought?

idontknow
idontknow

@Fried_Sushi
cs complaint
fuck off crossbell did it too so it's ok
Quick, where are those anons who insisted cs defenders don't always do this and have actual points that are ignored.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@BlogWobbles
Yeah, i was annoyed by Machias too early in the game.
Alisa stuff get sorted rather quickly though, she even get better after that.
Machias hatred towards nobility resolved later, i hope you able to bare with it for the time being.

@Sir_Gallonhead
At least they teach the girls how to cook proper food.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Fried_Sushi
And that somehow means everyone should like and enjoy it?

FastChef
FastChef

@idontknow
I'm not one of then user, i'm the guy who complained about everyone being so extreme in their hate even. I'm just point out the fact that Lloyd also pulled that stuff, like before heading to the auction house for example, and saying they needed to keep the girls safe.

I'm not sure what the big deal with this is quite honestly. Sure, some of the girls are monsters, but that doesn't change the fact that it's natural to care for their safety more than man, it's built into us from instinct.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Dreamworx
At least they teach the girls how to cook proper food.
I wish most schools would that in real life.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@PackManBrainlure
They should do that for everyone. Not being able to feed yourself at a basic level isn't anything to be proud of.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Sir_Gallonhead
I imagine Machias will shitpost about noble all day long.

Inmate
Inmate

@RavySnake
REMOVE NOBLE remove noble

idontknow
idontknow

@RumChicken
It gives you the opportunity to enjoy them growing into non-shitters.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@FastChef
But you are doing exactly that. You are not addressing cs' problems and making arguments to defend it on its own. You are saying it's fine cause another mc of another game also did it and that clearly justifies it and no one has the right to complain. There's everything wrong with this logic.

But for what it's worth I agree the protecting itself is not that big of a deal.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@CodeBuns
I live with my aunt. She can't cook for shit and I end up making our meals all the time. I'm sick of it desu.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Skullbone
Well if that's how it seemed it wasn't my intention. It just seemed like such a non issue, that i tried to point out how it had happened before.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@RavySnake
Gas the nobles, class war now!

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@iluvmen
To be honest Lloyd was far more annoying with his heroics sometimes. But I'm just saying if we are complaining about x don't shift blame on y cause it doesn't help your case.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Does sepith vein/dragon vein work in conjunction with sepith dropped during sepith turns or sepith dropped by using scepter master quartz, or is it only for kills?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@idontknow
Yeah that feels good. Too bad CS is stingy with proper character development.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Who is responsible for all the nobles?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

REMOVE NOBLES remove NOBLES
you are worst class. you are the class idiot you are the class smell. return to noble houses. to our noble cousins you may come our cities. you may live in the zoo….ahahahaha ,nobles we will never forgeve you. cetnik rascal FUcks but fuck asshole class stink noble sqhipere shqipare..noble genocide best day of my life. take a bath of dead noble..ahahahahahNOBLES WE WILL GET YOU!! do not forget civil war .jusis we kill the nobles , jusis return to your precious noble home….hahahahaha idiot nobles smell so bad..wow i can smell it. REMOVE NOBLES FROM THE PREMISES. you will get caught. machias+commoners=kill nobles… machias alive in erebonia, machias ensuring safety of erebonia. fast kill machias erebonia. we are rich and have gold now hahahaha ha because of machias… you are ppoor stink noble… you live in a hovel hahahaha, you live in a brothel

machias alive numbr one #1 in erebonia ….fuck the nobles ,..FUCKk ashol nobles no good i spit in the mouth eye of ur group. machias aliv and real strong top commoner kill all the nobles farm aminal with commoner magic now we the machias rule .ape of the zoo noble cayenne san fukc the great satan and lay egg this egg hatch and nobles we;re born. stupid baby form the eggn give bak our clay we will crush u lik a skull of pig. commoners greatest class

whereismyname
whereismyname

So I'm playing through SC right now. Can anyone tell me what the name of the track is that plays during the dream sequence where Estelle talks to her mom?

It's also playing right now in this scene as well. I can't seem to find what it's called. Is it on the SC soundtrack or did it play in FC as well?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@whereismyname
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHCLsd0wsMU
This one?

Techpill
Techpill

How do the Gralsritter have trouble with anyone or anything if they have access to the Salt Pale?
How do you stop being turned into salt with no saving throw?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Techpill
They have a limited amount of bolts and would rather not go overboard with using them in case they accidentally an entire country again

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@StonedTime
A lot of the characters in CS technically did develop but it's like Schera and Zin in that they don't undergo huge character revamps.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Illusionz
The bolt probably doesn't spread that far. It spread in the country that happened at because of it's core.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Techpill
The salt pale is reserved for the cream of the heretic crop. Those people are probably going to be very powerful and hard to find. Look at everything Kevin had to do to get to the saltman.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Need_TLC
REMOVE

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Deadlyinx
Nah, that's not the one. I should have been more specific, it's the part that plays when she's getting out of the dream and she's saying her goodbyes to her mom. It's a very solemn track and it's got some gentle piano playing.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@AwesomeTucker
I imagine they don't want to risk it, they need to physically deliver it via bolt as well. Some of it probably comes down to more theological matters too.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Looks like we're either getting the CS2 port this month or December. It'd be a fucking miracle if actually came out in August.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Rean, why are hell are you having a heroic speech over a goddamn high school festival? Christ kid, it's not that important.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@SniperWish
Sounds like December at the earliest

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@SniperWish
Too long. Gonna have to play it on PS3 I guess

Soft_member
Soft_member

@StrangeWizard
If the removed text from the 3rd is anything to go by it's reserved for people who resurrected, which the removed text implies Weissman was, so the bolt was a way to stop people who can ressurect from coming back, or just really powerful people.

That is assuming the idea isn't scrapped, and they just didn't want to foreshadow it too soon.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Techpill
By not getting hit with the limited supply of it. Also can you imagine the collective world shit storm it would cause if it got public that the church uses the salp pale? Being associated with destroying an entire country could destroy them.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Lord_Tryzalot

In Japan it is.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@SniperWish
If CS2 comes out this month then I will buy five copies.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@SniperWish
I hope delays won't ruin Christmas.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Lord_Tryzalot
For a world so heavily European the japaneseness of the academy feels off

Methshot
Methshot

@SniperGod

I'm still surprised how well they took the salt pale in general.

You'd think a pillar randomly falling out of the sky and destroying 1/3 of a whole country would have people expecting the fucking end times.

How are they so confident another won't show up.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Methshot
There was a pretty effective coverup

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Garbage Can Lid

How do you cover up a third of a country being destroyed?

North Ambria was still a shit hole decades later.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Garbage Can Lid
There wasn't that heavy of a cover up. I figure they must have had people explain that it was an isolated case, and no chance of it happening anywhere else or something. Gotta make people a little more calm.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Booteefool
North Ambria wasn't that influential and if the Church says you have nothing to worry you believe it.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@JunkTop
t. Hatsuu

takes2long
takes2long

@Booteefool
@PackManBrainlure
Rewatching the star door it looks like the church just cordoned off the entire affected area and flooded the remaining areas of the country with relief and rebuilding efforts focused on preventing panic. Not quite a full coverup but they tried to downplay what happened and made sure no one would realise the affected area was literally turned to salt.

I guess it helps that most of the people who witnessed it were horrifically killed and the rest were panicked refugees who fled before it really hit.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Cs2 is not coming out this year. Come on guys get real. It takes a year to actually release these games and cs1 JUST came out. Summer 2018.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Booteefool
If the engine for CS2 is almost identical to CS1 its probably a lot easier.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@PackManBrainlure
Hopefully I'm not to late to tell you to check the school courtyard after clearing the Old Schoolhouse that day.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Dreamworx
I'm still in the old school house. trying to figure out a good way to farm sepith because it takes fucking forever to get a nice amount. Currently have Jusis with sepith vein + dragon vein and using arts to nuke everything.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Why would you choose a gun as your weapon if you want to be a fighter in the kisekiverse?
You hear of all these super human people pulling off ridiculous feats and you think: "Man, I want to shoot guns good".

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Lord_Tryzalot
This image is fake. Machias would sperg out right in front of his face, and not keep quiet.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@BlogWobbles
Average person isn't fighting the super humans.

WebTool
WebTool

@BlogWobbles
So you can shoot up a certain school and remove a certain group of people.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@whereismyname
@viagrandad
It's from FC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7dJK_kbs8c

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@BlogWobbles
Or you could go Dudley and use gun for cool factor

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Garbage Can Lid
@takes2long
Maybe I missed something important, but the salt pale showing up in the first place was entirely the Churchs fault?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@BlogWobbles
Poor souls who somehow believed they could actually shoot the villain from afar BEFORE he summons monsters or power ups to beat them/escape.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@BlogWobbles

Probably doesn't require nearly as much grueling training as being a melee fighter does.

Rean trained in the moutains for a month as basic introduction and Laura's father took her on a training trip in the wilderness for a year to her her get up to Duvalie levels.

If you aren't interested or have the time for that kind of comitment, but still want to be able to have moderate combat ability you'd get an orbal gun.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Flameblow
No, it just appeared one day, the church have no idea what to make of it. They just Top Men-ed it.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@TalkBomber
The gun is Dudley's limiter.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@BlogWobbles
So what is there to cover up?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@MPmaster
I enjoyed the fact that an elite military academy threw a festival with balloons and themed classroom cafes just like West Point does every year.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Illusionz
The church still can't make sense of it even with all the secret knowledge they have so it's kind of a big deal and you don't want people to panic.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Flameblow

They had nothing to do with it. It just fell out of space one day and nobody knows where it came from.

The church couldn't even get it under control until it burned out most of power destroying the country, and it shrank from topping the clouds to a tiny pillar.

They pretend they do, but nobody has any idea what the hell happened.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Harmless_Venom
Oh, right.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Emberburn
It may have come from underground if anything, no one is sure where it came from.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

campanella has a salt pale in his s-craft
This has to be foreshadowing, right?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Illusionz
They won't want the mass panic of apocalyptic artefacts suddenly appearing outside major capitals and wiping out a third of a countries population. They also won't want everyone to know that the church's division devoted to stopping that kind of thing from happening was utterly powerless to do anything but wait it out and all of those powers your government granted it don't protect you in the slightest. Finally they would likely rather downplay the fact that they managed to retrieve the active core of the artefact and have happily weaponised it.

Best for everyone if they build lots of churches and pretend it wasn't as terrifying as it was.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@AwesomeTucker
[FAKE]

Supergrass
Supergrass

@TalkBomber

Pretty sure it was confirmed to have fallen out of the sky.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@AwesomeTucker
The S-craft reads "Salt Pale (Fake)" i think. But yeah, it is weird that he'd specifically use that for an attack.

Maybe he used it because of how he saw Weissman turn into salt?

Flameblow
Flameblow

Clara's pick breaks

takes2long
takes2long

@Lunatick
So how will Class VII react to this smug ass faggot

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@takes2long
He wont stand a chance against the power of friendship

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Duvalie goes full autism mode when she lost to Laura in the final dungeon

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Can someone please upload a save game file with Red Moon Rose chapter 08 in the inventory? I somehow missed it and I need a save game file with it in the inventory to get the Cheat Engine address for it. Thanks so much.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Dreamworx
I like to call it tard rage moment.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Dreamworx
Duvalie being a huge baby is no joke one of my favorite gags in the series.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@BunnyJinx
Its funny because she's like the only villain that takes her job seriously.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@BunnyJinx
@Bidwell
I'm getting Duvalie vibes from Juna

likme
likme

@Dreamworx
implying Campanella will ever not be holding back

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Spazyfool
If this wasn't a sequel, i'd probably say that Ash was the MC. He looks like one.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Crazy_Nice
Now that you mention it, Kurt barely talk at all.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgdfJxJZYV8
Name a better song in kiseki.
Hardmode: no battle themes.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@GoogleCat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT9ZgZ9qf7A

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Crazy_Nice
He looks like he's trying to copy Rean's dress sense. Perhaps he's the tsun this time.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Zemurian Ore #3
1-2 Laura
3-4 Sara
5-6 Millium
7-8 Fie
9-0 Reroll

SniperWish
SniperWish

@GoogleCat
I'm only disagreeing with you because I just finished Ao so this track is fresher in my mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT9ZgZ9qf7A

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@GoogleCat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKYjqbt0E70

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Garbage Can Lid
Fie is good choice if you are enjoying long fight, Laura is perfect if you want to finish the boss as quick as possible.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Carnalpleasure
I'm quite certain that if he wanted to finish it as soon as possible, he'd just pick Sara or Millium instead with their 4S finishers instead of Laura's SSS+

askme
askme

@Deadlyinx
Nevermind, found one on a Chinese website.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

So they took my best man Olivier from me because this game is shit, so now I don't know who else to pick. Help me out, please.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@New_Cliche
Kevin and Shera.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@New_Cliche
Agate, otherwise the game is too hard if you can't spam dragon dives even on easy.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@TreeEater
Fie probably has all the skills of a real Jaeger, but lacks the mindset to be an amoral murderhobo. She does lack the real Jaeger experience, but I don't think she's too far behind in terms of skill.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@New_Cliche
Kloe is the best arts user, just use her in his place
Her orbment slots being locked to water quartz isn't a big deal when she oneshots every non-boss anyway

Use Zin too, he doesn't deserve the neglect you've been showing him

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@VisualMaster
Zin is pretty shit in SC though, aside from glitched Thunder God Kick.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Estelle is cute. CUTE!

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@New_Cliche
Best girl Kloe.
But also because of the reasons @VisualMaster
laid out.

Schera, Agate, or Kevin for the other slot.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@BlogWobbles
bEstelle

Soft_member
Soft_member

This guy walks into Crossbell and gives you five minutes to slap his ass. What do you do?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@GoogleCat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWfXqhYe1Y0

Spamalot
Spamalot

@viagrandad
@Nojokur
@VisualMaster
@Stark_Naked
I decided to go with Kevin and Kloe. The support will be a little crazy, but Estelle and Joshua should make things die quick. I don't know what I did with their orbments, but I somehow got white gehenna on both of them.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Soft_member
I would ask first I guess

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Soft_member
five minutes
I spend them laughing at his stupid outfit.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Soft_member
Turn 360 degrees and walk away.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@GoogleCat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFv-06tnjRw

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Soft_member
I laugh at his face as I crush Burst Orbs one after the other, leaving him unable to do anything.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@TreeEater
Does burst even work on his fight? It only happens in certain locations.

Inmate
Inmate

Elliot was on the bench so long that i forgot that Angel was on him

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@cum2soon
I assumed it did, maybe not. To be fair he just destroyed me.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@GoogleCat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6YURGwCsMg
;_;

cum2soon
cum2soon

Is there a tier list for those new quartz? i am at chapter 3 of CS and haven't even bothered with them.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@cum2soon
It depends on the character and their locks. For example Hellfire and Ingenuity are great picks for Emma's single fire lock.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Where's the trailer, FALCOM!?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Booteefool
Patrician taste, my man, toss up between this and "The Whereabouts of Bonds" version for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIwlj5z8gGs

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

TFW even using scepter and getting the kill blow on enemies by using Laura with Dragon vein and Sepium vein, i only get around 20 sepith per fight

I want to die. I don't think anyone has any multi hit craft so i can get a bunch hits on enemies for a bunch of sepith all at once, that is assuming the master quartz procs.

It's like they made everything else nice, but forgot about money and sepith balance if you don't go out of your way to get a bunch.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

tfw you start emulating CS2 and realize why CS1 had a quartz that made chests show up on the minimap.

They really couldn't come up with better camera controls than this for consolefags?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@GoogleCat
Give Scepter to someone like Fie or Millium instead.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Fried_Sushi
Thanks friendo.
What's your favourite Cold Steel song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbDinyt3VCc

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Spazyfool
Right after I post this I realized hitting cancel re-centers the camera. I was the retard after all.

WebTool
WebTool

Every day I suffer at the realization that Akatsuki ended up being a shitty mobage instead of the shitty MMO it seemed like it could've been at its first announcement

We could've been the shittiest Bracers on the Zemurian continent, complete with our own filthy gaijin guild, logging on daily to shitpost memes at the japs and grind like autistic NEETs to compete in every server event
Instead of localization arguments and Skyfag/Crossbellfag/CSfag shittalk we could've had entire threads of nothing but shitposts in image form of our characters in slutty outfits doing emotes next to each other to look like they're kissing, flooding out any possible discussion about the actual videogames
Instead, we have the nightmare we have now

why did it have to turn out this way
hold me /fg/

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@whereismyname
Still on Ch. 4 but so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40DMlO-odKY

TreeEater
TreeEater

@CodeBuns
I assume it's only good for her S-craft right? Her craft to fire her guns only makes the enemies flich once.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Suddenly having sepith problems after a game of overflowing with them
I really should have grinded up Scepter in CS2.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@WebTool
At least it has cute art and costumes.

Evilember
Evilember

@Spazyfool
Kill yourself dude you aren't welcome here

StonedTime
StonedTime

@TreeEater
Yeah, the best way to farm sepith is to dump Scepter or Force + Septium/Dragon Vein on Fie/Millium and have them spam s-crafts,

happy_sad
happy_sad

@StonedTime
I'll give it a go and check i guess.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Flameblow
this

likme
likme

@Nojokur
I didnt know it had a bunch of new art attached to it.
and more meido Joshua?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Can no longer play action games that's not Ys
Not even other Falcom games Brandish or Xanadu
How do I fix this autism?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Soft_member
tank him with lloyd, cobalt sphere with randy and tio, crimson ray with elie/wazy.
zero field when necessary.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

knocks politely with everybody else
just barges into that filthy foreigner's room

Microaggressions! Jesus fuck, that word is actually recognized by the browser's dictionary.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@lostmypassword
I think the idea was to show that Elliot and Gaius got to know him already so it was no problem.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@lostmypassword
Don't be a tard. He walked into gaius's room because they already had an established friendship. He does the same thing with elliot

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@lostmypassword
He barges into Elliots room though too doesnt he?
Those 3 are chums from the start, Best Boy and 4eyes arent.

Knocks politely with the girls rooms at first, later gets to just barge in.
Atta boy Rean bean

likme
likme

when you sync 2:13 with Noel saving your ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qYYetCVBko
is it autism?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@ZeroReborn
I'm surprised we had no scene where Rean walked on them getting changed. I guess Falcom hasn't fully succumbed to love hina tropes.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@RavySnake
Maybe CS3 will right this wrong with Juna.
It would only add to her assumed tsundere

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@kizzmybutt
It looks like the students share rooms, so he'll probably be walking in on Altina as well.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Trying to resist the urge to use Hades/Domination memes
Enemies keep getting increasingly hp spongy

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@ZeroReborn
Heres a twist.
Juna and Altina walk in on him half naked.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Need_TLC
It's good actually. There's more chance to multiply exp so it cuts down on grinding time.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@ZeroReborn
The twist is Ash walks in on him.

WebTool
WebTool

@Need_TLC
If you're in ii they also get super dangerous later on. One art going off will almost wipe your party.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@ZeroReborn
They'll still blame him for not locking his door.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@WebTool

I was shocked about that.

Everyone was doing meh damage so I laughed it all off but one mid level water art hitting did over 10,000 damage to everyone.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Please tell me there's a haze quartz in CS. Enemies having a 6th sense despite approaching from their backs is getting really fucking annoying. No i do not have scent equipped.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Gigastrength
Just smash them again and again with Laura. She can stun from the front.

5mileys
5mileys

@Gigastrength
No enemies in CS will be able to outrun you. Unless the dungeon has small corridors you will always be able to run.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Oh man the decisions

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@DeathDog
I know that, it's just annoying to do every time. In Zero/Ao it was nice because i could just hit once with Randy and the enemy would be stuck long enough for me to comfortably get to their backs and hit them again.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@CouchChiller
Emma or Jusis.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@CouchChiller
Easy Jusis pick.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Gigastrength
@AwesomeTucker
Needing double/triple advantage in CS

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@CouchChiller
Jusis
Emma
Laura

easy.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@AwesomeTucker
isn't the same as Zero? you even get a run button in CS it should be easier.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Gigastrength
Megalith reduces their aggro.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Emberburn
It helps move the battle along faster, and not having to stop to heal from all the times they hit you. I'm on nightmare, so they hurt.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@CouchChiller
Pick emma for story reasons

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Stark_Naked
Build a high speed Rean and delay everyone. I really only need them early in the game.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@GoogleCat
Not every single freaking fight has all the enemies neatly lined up for that user.

Spamalot
Spamalot

So guys, if Juna decides to make some diss tracks, is she ever going to say "Crossbell is my city."?

I'm sorry, I apologize for bringing that shitty meme here.

girlDog
girlDog

@CouchChiller
Crow

Soft_member
Soft_member

What's with Arcus linking randomly going off after fights?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Believe me buddy, if I had my way that's exactly what we'd be doing.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Soft_member
Did someone die in battle?

Techpill
Techpill

@Emberfire
That's why I told you to build high speed Rean. If he's fast enough he'll be able to act again before the enemy's turn. There will always be an angle to hit most of the enemies with Arc Slash.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Gigastrength
It's easy as fuck to get advantage with Rean, it takes two attacks at most to get behind enemies.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Stark_Naked
Oh i think that may be it, i resurrect them immediately after and i keep forgetting to check the link.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Fuzzy_Logic
Laura is for love making, not banging

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Techpill
Oh wait, I forgot you're probably in CS1 where Arc Slash had a small AoE.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@haveahappyday
Misty shows up afterward
Well, shit. So that's what you were talking about. Gonna stick with Laura but I'll probably rewatch it with Emma.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Illusionz
Yeah i'm currently at CS 1.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Spazyfool
Run button
I've been playing this stupid fucking game
For 70 hours
SEVENTY. HOURS.

Inmate
Inmate

@ZeroReborn
New class vii gets bunk beds

Playboyize
Playboyize

I really hope CS gets autosaves patched in.

I RQ'd Vulcan and it sent me back all the way to the Roer tunnel when I last manually saved.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Playboyize
CS has had autosaves for 4 days now.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Playboyize
By that point you should have know to save more often desu

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Inmate
Well yeah, it's a train car. Also, tank top detected.

farquit
farquit

@Inmate
Four to a room then, so Rean can walk in on Altina, Juna, Musse, and Tita.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Inmate
It's shaping up to be rather comfy.

takes2long
takes2long

@Inmate
CS1 should have this train in the first place.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

To the user who recommended Fie, it seemed to have worked better, thanks. Still wish there was something that hit more than that, a trick like blue breaker from Ao between Noel and Wazy would be nice.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Is CS2 nightmare any harder than CS1?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Vita and Duke Cayenne's motives for this entire arc
This is hilarious as fuck

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Spamalot
It's easier. Laura can one shot end game bosses effortlessly, Fie can still dodge everything, and there's food that fills up CP by 100/200. You can have a character like Laura or Sara use their S-Crafts, give them some fucking strength food that fills up CP as well for some reason, and then have them turn skip into another S-Craft.

It's fucking absurd.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Spamalot
No, both games are piss easy.

FastChef
FastChef

@Spamalot
You shouldn't be playing CS for the difficulty which is nonexistant, you should be playing for the bland characters and predictable plot.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@TreeEater
Its hilarious when you remember that Laura is like the second weakest of the 5 dedicated physical attackers and she can do it effortlessly.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@BunnyJinx
Who's the top one? Millium?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Spamalot
S-Break
Win
Somehow it's even easier than CS1, just follow the above strat and you'll beat every boss easily.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@CodeBuns
Physical
Rean > Sara > Millium > Laura > Gaius > Fie > Machias

Magical
Emma > Elliot > Alisa > Jusis

5mileys
5mileys

@Firespawn
Elliot is technically stronger than Alisa in terms of raw ATS but he's worse than her in practice because Alisa syncs up perfectly with Criminal which ends up making up for the inferior ATS. Like how Laura has the highest STR but a worse S-Craft modifier than Rean/Sara/Millium.

askme
askme

Laura is pretty underwhelming in CS2 honestly, everyone else got some useful buff whether its a useful craft/s-craft or lost arts memes while she takes fucking forever to upgrade her s-craft only to just tie Gaius who was doing that kind of damage 10-30 hours ago.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@5mileys
Doesn't Criminal sync well enough with any arts user though?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

building your party around who's the strongest
not building your party around who's your favorite

MPmaster
MPmaster

@BlogWobbles
Literally the only one who cares about MUH SUPERIOR NOBLES at all is Duke Albarea. Maybe Patrick's father too but none of the commoner NPC shittalk him.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@askme
Yeah, but she looks good doing it.

WebTool
WebTool

Four damn tries to beat Sharon at Blade. Either I just suck at Blade or RNG hates me. During the field studies and whatnot my win/loss has been about 50/50.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@askme
Gaius doesn't have cheap STR + Insight buff.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@RumChicken
Yes. You're more likely to stick it on Jusis if you actually want it to get used unless Rean is your only physical party member.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@RumChicken
@AwesomeTucker
Its great for all of the mages on paper but in practice, only Alisa and Emma have the space to actually use the thing (since fire locks) and Emma's better off with Pandora or Aries.

Inmate
Inmate

@RumChicken
Gaius can solo the late game, so that's a pretty minor complaint.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@RumChicken
Does that really matter in game where Alisa/Jusis combined can cover every single relevant buff besides Arts Reflect?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@RumChicken
Caring about buffs when you can just s-craft the bosses to death

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Sharpcharm
Not him but the Tauros + Domination memes wouldn't work without STR buff. Though you can just apply that with Jusis and Chrono Burst.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Harmless_Venom
This. Maybe if the game was difficult I could see why, but any character combination can be used to beat any boss in the game without difficulty.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Harmless_Venom
This. Even Machias with Juggler will murder the game.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@AwesomeTucker
Wasting Criminal on the mage least likely to get an offensive turn because he has to constantly refresh buffs

Nojokur
Nojokur

Honestly, once you get Moebius level 5 and cook items that increase buffs and Chrono Burst, the game is pretty much done since you're just gonna end up doing the same "feed buffs, S-Craft, feed CP items, S-Craft, heal up EP for last Chrono Burst, rinse and repeat" and bosses won't even get any turns whatsoever.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Nojokur
Yeah, but what's the fun in that? You need to hold back on the broken gimmicks a bit.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Flameblow
It's rude to hold back.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Nojokur
Its true that you can easily rape the game with Domination memes or Hades + Lost Art on like every dedicated mage but that's not any fun if you do it constantly. You need to save those for the final boss when you just want to see the ending.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Laps around Trista and campus right before festival
Laps around campus during festival morning
Laps around campus during festival noon

It's painful having NPC autism during this final chapter. And I love it.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Gigastrength
Outside of a boss fight he'll be getting more turns than your other mages because he's faster and you don't need buffs. Alisa isn't going to be casting against bosses either since she's always busy crafting for cp and other buffs, so I'm not sure what your point is.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Flameblow
To be fair, he didn't hold back in this fight going as far as cheating in this one (if by accident).

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Lord_Tryzalot
I wouldn't call it cheating if he kicked my ass multiple times back in CS1.

JunkTop
JunkTop

CS PC owners according to today's steamspy figures: 16,468 ± 3,533

Isn't a massive success by any means, but not bad at all.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Need_TLC
By end game, I was running:

Rean = Moebius
Laura = Tauros
Emma = Pandora
Alisa = Criminal

Rean and Laura were boss killers while Emma and Alisa (whoever came up first) were the grunt killers.

The reserves were pretty much there to level up whatever MQ I want.

TechHater
TechHater

@SomethingNew
Constantly using Blessed Arrow and Heavenly Gift is overkill since both of your physical attackers should have gladiator headbands on and refilling their cp like crazy between constant rush attacks.

Jusis is the one that has trouble, especially in a more mage oriented team because you end up getting so many turns in that your buffs always end up wearing off.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Snarelure
I left Force on Rean because watching him almost instantly refill his cp after a single Arcane Gale is deliciously broken.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Need_TLC
I tried using a full dodge team without a single support mage for the final battle.
They should change how evasion works in CS3 holy shit. If you ran a Fie, Sara, Laura team you don't even need to do anything, the boss will eventually kill itself.

Emberfire
Emberfire

How is Chrono Burst even a thing? This is one of the most hilariously broken and blatantly overpowered spells I've ever seen in an rpg before

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@JunkTop
3rd sold more and it isn't an entry point, CS is flopping so far.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@TechHater
Yeah, I'm not a fan of the extreme delay crafts cause relative to arts once you have some equipment to speed them up. I hope they do something to keep total turns between characters closer together.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Found a speed run of JP CS2 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tgfw-2ZLD4

I'm laughing at Rean trying to play catch up with everybody else while they all level up because of plot.

Oh and Zero speed run = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls28jVoBzfw

Ao speed run = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WuilmBzl7M

No CS1 speed run. Probably because it's a pain to map that one out.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Total STR: Millium=Laura>Sara>Gaius>Rean>Jusis>Fie>Machias>Alisa
ATS: Emma>Elliot>Alisa>Jusis>Sara>etc.
SPD: Fie >> Sara>Rean >> Jusis>Alisa >> Elliot>Gaius>Laura>Machias>Emma>Millium

Some of the speed gaps are tiny like 1 point eg Rean vs Sara and Alisa vs Jusis.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Emberfire
You shouldn't be allowed to use it one after another, but I guess Falcom couldn't code something like that.

girlDog
girlDog

@PurpleCharger
Unless they S-Break back at you. You have to put up some defense on you or if you let McBurn cast Sol Eruption on you since that bypasses barriers.

takes2long
takes2long

@likme
One of the few Rean Crow drama moments I liked in CSII.
Rean is such a liar.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@girlDog
Just impede him using sweep or leaf cutter. Though sometimes he got a double turn hax. McBurn fight relies on RNG no matter what.

StonedTime
StonedTime

dammit i finished CS1 and I wanna play CS2 now but then I wouldn't have turbo mode... FUCK

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Deadlyinx
I wound up beating Mcburn on my run by chain casting arts at him since you get ridiculous number of pot shots at him.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@CodeBuns
CS: 16,468 ± 3,533
3rd: 15,872 ± 3,469

I don't even know why I bothered to reply.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@kizzmybutt
Damage control
3rd's numbers are more reliable since it has been out for more than a month, watch CS lose 3000 sales tomorrow.

Evilember
Evilember

@CodeBuns
3rd was an untranslated game while Cold Steel is just a port.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@kizzmybutt
Just report him. This isn't new material.

5mileys
5mileys

@Supergrass
This. Somehow Arcane Gale never got old.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Cat Ears even adds a tail
How could I ever play without this

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Evilember
CS is selling at 40$ as well. Id say its pretty inline with Xseeds expectations. It will probably get a small boost in sales when CS2 hits pc as well.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

play dawn of ys

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Sir_Gallonhead
Initial release date: 22 December 1993

TechHater
TechHater

@Lunatick
and it still sounds better than Celceta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWYZDs0ARqg

Methshot
Methshot

Does Cold Steel ever explain how some characters do the things they do? Why can Alisa bless people with holy light beams and how did Elliot weaponize music? Alisa is just a chick who is decent at archery and Elliot is a music nerd.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

So, if XSEED announces Zero before the translation is finished, will they drop it? Sure hope my choices won't be either use an unpolished beta or wait another 2-3 years.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Methshot
I think I asked this before. An user pointed out that some crafts are probably custom orbal arts.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@AwesomeTucker
Dont worry, Crossbell is probably never getting an official translation.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Methshot
Because crafts are anime bullshit everyone in the setting has access to. The only character doing something unusual is Emma.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Lunatick
Superior Theme of Adol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH5HEjFHyaE

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Lunatick
You fags said that about 3rd too.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@AwesomeTucker
unless they got the team who worked on the translation to do it officially most likely it'll be dropped

as cases with other games that had their games announced with translations going on

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Sharpcharm
3rd was the end of the trilogy though. Believe me Id love to have official translations; I just dont see it happening. Maybe Xseed will just say fuck it and prove me totally wrong, who knows

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@BinaryMan
Feels like a waste when it's almost done.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@StrangeWizard
Pretty much everyone can summon thunderstorm, god's light, lava etc
Oh but healing arrows or defensive buffs are anime bullshit

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Sharpcharm
There was still time then. Now they've got CS2 port, Zweii and CS3 is coming. Zero and especially Ao have probably the biggest script too and Ao needs a pc port as well.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@King_Martha
I'm not sure what point you think you're making. Every trained fighter has access to some kind of special pseudomagical tricks they don't need quartz to use. It's just a premise of the setting.

viagrandad
viagrandad

What comes after CS3?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Methshot
Same reason Schera can summon a hammer that smacks an enemy and Lloyd can jump to the stratosphere and turn into a meteor.
It's fucking magic I ain't gotta explain shit

likme
likme

Do we ever get to visit Alteria?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@viagrandad

Either Calvard trilogy and a finale game or Calvard duology and finale duology.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@viagrandad
Falcom's bankruptcy

Emberfire
Emberfire

@likme
In the last game or in a spinoff.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Methshot

Training. Like how training in Eight Leaves One Blade lets you light your sword on fucking fire.

Considering they talk about mana and characters generating auras, there seems to be a supernatural energy anyone in the setting can learn to control even without orbments

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@viagrandad
2 or 3 Calvard game and 1 gaiden(after story) game

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@CouchChiller
Wait, they're finally finishing it after the next duology/trilogy? I figured this shit would drag on for even longer.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@idontknow
when auditioning for shaft goes terribly wrong

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Carnalpleasure

They said it's 50-60 percent done with CS3. That means there's probably about 4 games left.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Carnalpleasure
He's speculating

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

>>186058072
that's III

and everybody agrees it's better that way

Booteefool
Booteefool

Anyone have the source for this image? It's official artwork.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Alright who stole my keke bear?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Fried_Sushi
Convince her to protect me to get the fuck out of there.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Burnblaze
The delicious cousin did it.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

tfw you have a good chance of dying before you play the last game in the series

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Garbage Can Lid
It's just weird that Gaius' crafts are normal attacks but Alisa can shoot beams with various effects.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Skullbone
Normal attacks let you shoot gusts of wind?

Illusionz
Illusionz

what are monsters? i only played fc and chapter 3 of sc, if it's too spoilerish forget about it,

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Deadlyinx
I mean, he's with the spirit of the wind or some shit.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Skullbone

Alisa has an orbment in her bow that probably lets her add effects to shots.

Gaius by contrast, just has a regular spear with no orbal device.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Illusionz
Trails isn't written by Yoko Taro so they're just wild animals.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@RumChicken
huh?
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/763235-the-legend-of-heroes-trails-of-cold-steel-ii/72957496

huh?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@VisualMaster
He just moves the spear that fast.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Illusionz

What do you mean monsters?

Like just the random enemies? They're just creatures that happen to be there. Like wild animals.

I don't think there's really an explaination as to why they're there.

takes2long
takes2long

@VisualMaster
Toval just has a stick with a battery in it, but he still shoots rasengans barehanded.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Did the Windows version of Dinosaur ever get translated?

What about the mecha Trails games

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@takes2long
That's explicitly stated to be orbal arts.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Lord_Tryzalot
@AwesomeTucker
They're obviously magical or something.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@VisualMaster
I think I heard something about Dinosaur Resurrection getting a fanpatch, but I never found one.

Mecha Trails
What?

@Boy_vs_Girl
Could be, since they produce sepith. But there's no explanation so far. They just exist.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Boy_vs_Girl

Probably, but there's no explaination, nor does anyone act like them being there is some unnatural problem that people should look into.

They've always been there.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Crazy_Nice
They don't produce sepith, they eat it. It's been hammered in game after game that monsters are attracted to septium.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Nude_Bikergirl
Yes, which ignores the rules for arts by being instant and free at all times. The point is everyone has bullshit powers.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Firespawn
That's literally Toval's gimmick, go replay CS2.

takes2long
takes2long

@Firespawn

Fast crafts son

idontknow
idontknow

Can we talk about how cool of an S-craft Rebellion Storm is?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Thread hits 750 in less than 16 hours

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Crazy_Nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4pBBzQ03mc

One of them had robots reminiscent to Xenogears

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Boy_vs_Girl
tfw you will never cast arts as fast as 零駆動

w8t4u
w8t4u

@lostmypassword
Thank the CSfags shitposting.

Techpill
Techpill

@takes2long
I buy it as a craft that uses his arcus, but it can't be a pure art.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Techpill
But it is. His field attack doesn't cost EP because story and gameplay segregation.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Techpill
His title is "Zero casting time", user.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Flameblow
I'll thank you not to make fun of FAG's title.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@AwesomeTucker
Just like Anelace v Richard?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Stark_Naked
Anelace beat Richard after he had rot in jail for a good while, had come to terms with leaving the military, and also was busy starting up his own company. Anelace is also a prodigy so wrap that all together and her barely beating him out makes sense.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@RumChicken
wouldn't that mean there's more like 5 or 6 games left?

DeathDog
DeathDog

New bread
/vg/thread/186060341#p186060341
/vg/thread/186060341#p186060341
/vg/thread/186060341#p186060341

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Nojokur
wat? I only picked Agate for Loewe for some dialog.

Wish you could have changed party members right after that fight.

takes2long
takes2long

@RavySnake
Girls learn to lock the door when getting changed.

FastChef
FastChef

@Methshot
NANOMACHINES

or rather

ORBAL ARTS

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@AwesomeTucker
Chances of Xseed releasing ZnK and AnK before Cold steel 3 is out are near 0 at this point.

Those games are huge and a technical and legal clusterfuck.

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