/svg/ - Shadowverse General

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Fate collab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDHryCE1gJo

https://shadowverse.jp/collaboration/fate/

Next expansion is Starforged Legends
Official page:
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/starforgedlegends/

Reveal chart:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/

What events are up?
https://pastebin.com/u6m70G7G

Nerf announcements
https://shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=364

Leader poll results
https://twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/890134639402209281

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Deckbuilder and card database
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Useful Links: https://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi

previous:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDHryCE1gJo
https://shadowverse.jp/collaboration/fate/
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/starforgedlegends/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/
https://pastebin.com/u6m70G7G
https://shadowverse.com/news/?announce_id=364
https://twitter.com/shadowversegame/status/890134639402209281
https://shadowverse.com/
https://shadowverse-portal.com/
https://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi
https://mega.nz/#!ZUwHSK7Y!bbUYzDJrRfZs25JnED84-GKrWszZlXpajy5x1KVd5z4
https://imgur.com/a/cTEkS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1cqPxfpZpY
https://twitter.com/Ayasame129/status/906870136803487744
http://game-ai.jp/43554/
https://imgur.com/WAX4mHZ
https://shadowverse-portal.com/card/104541010
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/8201/dark-alice-finds-satan
http://dl.stickershop.line.naver.jp/products/0/0/1/9143/iphone/[email protected]
https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/basis/roland-ohag.asp
https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/basis/roland-ohag.asp
Firespawn
Firespawn

/vg/thread/189132942#p189154578
/vg/thread/189132942#p189154578
Check the archives for the posts and the filenames
All 1 single person spamming the same format of shitposts

Spamalot
Spamalot

BUFF

Soft_member
Soft_member

IKUZO

w8t4u
w8t4u

shadowniggers...

FastChef
FastChef

Is this shitposting free general?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Firespawn
Literally kill yourself, shadownigger.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@w8t4u

autismo...

Soft_member
Soft_member

@lostmypassword
Nude Eris Mod V1: https://mega.nz/#!ZUwHSK7Y!bbUYzDJrRfZs25JnED84-GKrWszZlXpajy5x1KVd5z4

Uncensored preview and other mods: https://imgur.com/a/cTEkS

hairygrape
hairygrape

kys shadownigger

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Soft_member
Kill yourself

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

17476 Please concede
Also
Please post bahamut art

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

You fags should be thanking shadow. You get a free scapegoat to blame all your problems and shit plays on.
You get perfect excuse to justify your own broken shit by just posting a screenshot of it winning against a "shadownigger" and you'll get praise instead of momposting.
You can ask to be spoofed if it's in the name of defeating big bad shadow.
Made a shit deck or misplayed? No problem, you were playing against shadow, it's OP, so it's not you.
You can always deflect from your own craft if someone dares question it.
If someone makes a post you don't like you can always respond with "kys shadownigger" and you will always win the argument.
United all the other classes in an endless shitposting against it. What would keep these shitty generals alive if it wasn't for shitting on shadow.
A card you like got nerfed? It was doing good against shadow and is totally not broken
Got a shit pack? Fucking Luna stealing all my draws.
Your craft got bad cards in a new expansion? Fucking petclass shadow
Stubbed your toe? FUCKING SHADOWNIGGERS
The possibilities are just endless.
Shadow is the hero you need, but do not deserve.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

lol

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Soft_member
thanks
based hag

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

2PP fairy circle
6PP WotF
worseAbby/Serpent Charmer
super duper conditional Piercing Rune
badAE

Jokes aside, I would play 2PP fairy circle and 6PP WotF, because forest are that desperate.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

SV really needs some reaction cards

neutral amulet
2pp
countdown 2
During enemy turn deal X damage to first follower enemy puts into play, where X is your unused play points

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Raving_Cute
It's a 6 mana WotF with a body AND hits face if you kill all their followers meaning you can drop it on an empty board where WotF would be a dead card.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@BinaryMan
still need concede

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Ignoramus
Fuck off you autist

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Lord_Tryzalot
You can't expect a 3/3 to survive a turn on turn 6 or turn 7. At most this card means that forest can run 6 WotF, which I must say, is not bad, but still can't compete with other classes.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Soft_member
People who made this shitty mods should learn how to draw first

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Ignoramus
What exactly is this supposed to deal with?

Genesis/Zeus/Baha/Isra all survive.

In roach a 1/1 fairy would eat it before the actual roaches drop.

You need to have 9 PP to drop it and have it kill a flame destroyer vs Dshift and if you're at 9PP you've already either won or lost.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@JunkTop
autist
fuck off

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Lord_Tryzalot
AND hits face if you kill all their followers
Have you even read the card?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@CodeBuns
Fanfiction tier create a card shit
not autism
Kill yourself already.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@PurpleCharger
It doesn't have to survive but a 3/3 body at only 1 cost more than WotF is pretty significant. You drop it on 6 and it either clears their board or deals like 5-8 face damage on an empty board. Then on 7 you have your Double roach NG combo for 8 damage plus however many 0 cost cards you have.

Evilember
Evilember

@CouchChiller
Most people who think new forest cards are OP don't read the cards.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Carnalpleasure
What exactly is this supposed to deal with?
How about mid game things? Drop it against Dhift turn 4-5 and if he drops levi to evolve the old fart dies, if you have 2pp left

TechHater
TechHater

@PackManBrainlure
deals like 5-8 face damage on an empty board
This has to be bait. No one in this world can be this retarded.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Booteefool
@Carnalpleasure
Fuck off with your off-topic spam.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@TechHater
@CouchChiller
Disregard that, I was looking at the new set late last night and I confused it with the Rune lego.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

What's with all the Elana players lately?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@New_Cliche
So we can discuss who said shadownigger on discord?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@New_Cliche
off-topic

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Spamalot
No, that would be just as bad as your fanfiction. Both ''discussions'' have absolutely nothing to do with the game.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

44695

Need concede

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@SniperGod
Fake cards that are not even part of the game
not off-topic
May as well start talking about Hearthstone

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@eGremlin
Card suggestions have everything to do with the game. They can be absolutely retarded suggestions, but they are game related nonetheless.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Booteefool
It's a terrible card because you are the one committing to it by not spending PP while your opponent gets to play around it in the best way for themselves. If they have a cheap follower to sacrifice they can do that, or play an amulet or spell, or even in the worse case they can just hold back and play nothing instead of just throwing cards away. The example you gave with Dshift makes no sense because the dshift player is never going to drop levi just to have it die, he'll play sorcery cache or just cycle for those turns instead while you're not developing anything on the board.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@CouchChiller
Oh shit its
44694

Firespawn
Firespawn

So what manner of BS will Haven's leggos bring to Shadowverse this time?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@cum2soon
I wish i had oz emblem,

thnx a lot friendo

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Spamalot
He is just the "not fun allowed" sort. I hope he is not grumpy irl.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@haveahappyday
Its dumb pointless spam. There is a reason why turbo autists like him get told to fuck off in every damn card game community.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Soft_member
I bet you're one of those people who scream for nerfs, but never suggest the actual changes to make because thinking about things that can change the game is just pointless spam.

TechHater
TechHater

@New_Cliche
Strawmanning this hard

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@New_Cliche
Fuck off already

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@New_Cliche
I have no clue how that has any relation to you spamming fake cards in this general.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Not even 50 posts in
Shitposting is already running wild

Playboyize
Playboyize

/svg/ allowed discussion
streamers
reddit
other card games
porn of SV
momposting
craft wars

/svg/ not allowed content
own take on meta
giving your own ideas for the game
having fun

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Rate my cards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1cqPxfpZpY

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

leave game because of how shit Alice/Spawn was
come back because I hear the game is "balanced"
based Nep is back

Did they save the game?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

OCfag is a dumb frogposter
Nothing surprising here

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@GoogleCat
Post dick

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@TechHater
@New_Cliche
A suggested nerf is basically a fictional card as well and those aren't allowed apparently.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@GoogleCat
Pluto
I really hope that's a pact pluto that was bounced.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

So all shitposting about OCfaging is over? We haven't seen yet half of the cards, so I suspect they are hiding broken shit among them

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@GoogleCat
Usher to bring back Pluto from Pact
Is it really useful or just a meme?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@lostmypassword
No, there is a huge difference between suggesting nerfs to a card to make it more balanced and completely making up new cards. Fuck off

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@TreeEater
Probably she was added to hand by usher effect.

askme
askme

@TreeEater
@Crazy_Nice

I play usher to get back Mord, but since I had death's breath'd zombies on the board I couldn't pull him with Nep so Usher gave me a Pluto. I can see it being pretty useful though.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Post elf.

TechHater
TechHater

@Crazy_Nice
Usher is best girl when you don't draw or can't play your 8pp followers but can bring back Khawy. Dropping 4/5 ward-heals is top nep.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@LuckyDusty
That's just like, your opinion, man.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Nojokur
I cant believe both her and El are dead now

Methshot
Methshot

@LuckyDusty
So what you're saying is that if I take an existing card and "nerf" it to have the effect that is present on the fictional card it's ok, but making up an entirely NEW card with the same effect is wrong :^)

DeathDog
DeathDog

t8 double alice buffed Gilgamesh

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Who manages the reveal chart? The sword lego description is wrong, it changes cost to 2 if 3 or more enemy followers are in play.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Poker_Star
reading comprehension

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Are there real Americans in America, or is everyone a nigger?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

How can the localization team live with themselves.
Cuhullin
Qilin
I can live with name changes, i can live with changes in names so they sound better in english. This is just plain retarded.

idontknow
idontknow

Loki
then play minthe tyrant
Holy shit the meme value of this.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@ZeroReborn
Cú Chulainn, also spelled Cú Chulaind or Cúchulainn and sometimes known in English as Cuhullin
And Qilin is the Chinese version of the name.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@ZeroReborn
黒麒麟
literally "Kuirin"

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

https://twitter.com/Ayasame129/status/906870136803487744

Bahamutless Ramp Dragon featuring Fafnir and Orb Dragon

massdebater
massdebater

@idontknow
cucked by Rin Gon

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Soft_member
Famtachi can you make that one webm of Eris wiggling her hips?

Skullbone
Skullbone

looking for good English streams
some French neckbeard has more views than prep_cuck can get in a month

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@idontknow
Read what it says. It boosts the next fanfare followers effects. Only 1 and not end of turn or anything.
Playing minthe would pretty much negate lokis effect

idontknow
idontknow

@idontknow
reading comprehension
Oh yeah, that's pretty meme.
Loki only doubles the next Fanfare, he doesn't double all your Fanfare until the end of the game. Loki will double Minthe's Fanfare (lol), and Tyrant's Necromancy won't be doubled.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@idontknow
Mint's effect is a fanfare. She will consume Loki's effect so Tyrant won't have double fanfare.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Need_TLC
deck name
Assult Lamp WLD

idontknow
idontknow

AYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOO HOL UP
*smacks lips*
HOL UP NIGGA
*slaps maid leader's ass on board*
SO YOU BE SAYING
*farts 5 play points*
HOL UP HOL UP
*pulls out CoCK*
YOU BE SAYIN NIGGA
*rapes an elf*
NIGGA YOU BE SAYIN
*dindu nuffin we honestcraft*
WE WUZ SUM FINNA
*wins with turn 9 albert*
WE WUZ ROYAL AN SHIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTT

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Need_TLC
It's trash but just proves that anyone can go on a good streak, even Forest decks

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@eGremlin
@StrangeWizard
Then what the point of this fucking shit card? You can't even meme with it.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Fuzzy_Logic
DELETE THIS

WebTool
WebTool

@New_Cliche
Get 20 shadows then retard. You even got a new +1 shadow amulet

whereismyname
whereismyname

@happy_sad
Ban Assault Lamps.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@idontknow
Barbarossa
Barbosa
Fucking retards

Playboyize
Playboyize

@WebTool
It has nothing to do with the question I asked. Your passive aggressive is showing.
Also, I don't fucking need 20 shadows if I have Minthe now do I?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

189154891
ahaha fucking exposed shadownigger, or should I say, 6million?

@idontknow
Don't talk about my wife like that. She had to work very hard to get to this point.
Thank you

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Playboyize
If you have minthe then you wont have loki tyrant.
Its that simple.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

pick shadow in T2
go 1-4 because every single time I'm about to kill the faggot they pull out win con out of their ass
ALL FOUR GAMES
They are left on 1-2 HP and they survive
get stupid DE pack
7 bronzes and humpy dumpy
Fuck that run, everything that can go wrong, goes wrong

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Booteefool
How are getting 40 shadows to activate the fanfare twice?

5mileys
5mileys

@Booteefool
But wouldn't you need 40 shadows for Loki to do anything with tyrant? It says it triggers fanfare twice but we don't know if you need to pay only once or twice. Same with earth rites.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

start 2nd
can't keep up with the tempo
start 1st
brick hand
absolutely epic

Inmate
Inmate

@StrangeWizard
@idontknow
@eGremlin

You only need to double Tyrant's fanfare to make it otk, no other fanfare is needed here. Minthe herself doesn't have a fanfare. What the fuck are you spouting?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Lord_Tryzalot
@5mileys
It boosts enhance effects too. Bonus effect is most likely free.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@iluvmen
My tomboy wizard can't be this cute!!!

WebTool
WebTool

@5mileys
Fanfare calls Necromancy, necromancy eats shadows. If you have no shadows = no necromancy

MPmaster
MPmaster

Every single time you play vs neutral sword they get turn 4 Maisy and turn 5 CoCK.

Every single time I get Yurius just after they played the second CoCK.

God I hate this game.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Post YFW new shadow legendary is literally worse than Anomaly.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Garbage Can Lid
I tried to tell them...

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Inmate
Minthe doesn't have a fanfare

Fanfare: Your Necromancy effects cost 0 shadows until this follower leaves the area.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Inmate
how embarrassing
3 different people are telling you something and you don't even doubt yourself

iluvmen
iluvmen

Is neutral blood secretly overpowered right now?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@DeathDog
I can't believe that shit is a fanfare.

girlDog
girlDog

Post doggo

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@iluvmen
secretly
http://game-ai.jp/43554/

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@lostmypassword
It is better than Fairy Dragon though.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@iluvmen
It's the only deck I can win with at the moment

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

89731
Please concede.

likme
likme

post animateds

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Deadlyinx
It's funny, why don't other neutral decks use Hector and the Mountaineer? I mean neutral rune uses Hector to an extent but not the giant. haven and sword use none. I find that without those cards I just can't keep up in the late game.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Alice should be fucking deleted from the game. She is ridiculously stronger than any similar card. Same with Feria.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Raving_Cute
buffs should be deleted from the game
Welp. Goodbye Elana, nobody will miss you.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Fuzzy_Logic
may i have sauce on this?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

turn 2 Maid/Lux
turn 3 Serene Musician
turn 4 enhanced Lux
turn 5 enhanced Heavenly River
YES
YES

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Carnalpleasure
Thank you mommy.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Loki is a dragon card, don't delude yourself into thinking anyone but dragon can seriously use him.
Loki + Israfil = 8 heal
Loki + Ouro = 6 damage
Loki + Dragon summoner = 2 draws
Loki + Sahaquiel = 2 summons from her
Dreadsea + Loki + Ouro
Other various Dreadsea and Loki shenanigans

RumChicken
RumChicken

no sibyl emblem
no oz emblem
no moonbunny emblem
no ROLAND emblem ( I would fucking actually pay for one)
no rose queen emblem
no pluto emblem

I am missing on all qt waifus, fug

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@likme
tfw no idea what to blow my Orb on

DeathDog
DeathDog

@iluvmen
loki+baha makes him kill itself

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@iluvmen
Loki + Sahaquiel = 2 summons from her
Loki + Ouro = 6 damage

Read the card again, if anyone will succesfully run loki, it will be forest for roach shenenigans

FastChef
FastChef

I think one of the biggest challenges to a Tempo Forest archetype is beating out D-Shift

@Snarelure
I use Hector in my Neutral Forest deck to help stabilize/go face. I don't use Mountaineer because I don't have room for him, Hector's good enough in the 5 PP slot, and he doesn't really do enough.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@likme
Most of them are from prebuilts.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@TurtleCat
It's worse than Fairy Dragon because it costs more and doesnt even have ward.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@iluvmen
Loki + Ouro = 6 damage
Loki + Sahaquiel = 2 summons from her
You know that you can't double targetable fanfare?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Snarelure
An obvious answer, Rune and Sword have better 5-drops (Falise and CoCK). Haven has Goblin Princess which has synergy with Lion.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@iluvmen
ramp trash
again
This is disgusting. All neutral legendaries should be deleted or nerfed to the ground. It's not okay when more than half of dragon deck is neutral legendaries

RavySnake
RavySnake

@DeathDog
Anyone know what hentai this is from?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@lostmypassword
Siren's Tears + NEET + Usher of Styx memes tho

Spamalot
Spamalot

@New_Cliche
@Deadlyinx
And yet I barely see anyone complain about it.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Skullbone
jealous that dragon gets 4 leggos per expansion

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Raving_Cute
I agree

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

tfw you need 3 more damage for lethal and the opponent drops ambling wraith and blood wolf

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@FastChef
Oops, I didn't finish my thought.

I think one of the biggest challenges to a Tempo Forest archetype is beating out D-Shift. Using Neutral Forest vs them, I lose like 90% of the match ups because they just burn out my minions and I only win when I find BnB and he doesn't get polymorphed. I have literally no way of stopping D-Shift and it would be nice to have a way of doing so that isn't Roachniggertry.
I ended up making Roach deck just to purge these soulless fucks from ladder.

Techpill
Techpill

@Spamalot
Because neutral is fucking everywhere

TreeEater
TreeEater

@iluvmen
embarrassing.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@TurtleCat
All other cards with cool evolve effects get +1/+1 or even +0/+0 stats on evolve. Feria is just plain broken by getting +2/+2. And don't even get me started on Alice.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Raving_Cute
tfw i can't even prove those 3 were from packs anymore.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Nude_Bikergirl
I wish Fairy Dragon didn't have Ward so it could be protected by Ward followers

Inmate
Inmate

@StonedTime
All other cards with cool evolve effects get +1/+1 or even +0/+0 stats on evolve.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@iluvmen
What part of "non targeted fanfare" did you not fucking understand?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@StonedTime
2 drops tend to have a free pass with that, dunno why

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Spazyfool
That's my boy.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@StonedTime
Tenko gets +3+3 because you will be playing her with elana on board
Yet you're not complaining about that but neutral buffs that go +2+2 and buff for a measly +1+1 once
Interesting.

RavySnake
RavySnake

storm
removal
honest
balanced
taunting me three turns straight
So blood player where this disrespectful eh? If I were an asshole like you to use roach deck unranked you already dead by now.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@RavySnake
anomeme
prebuilt deck anomeme

I'd do the same desu

Soft_member
Soft_member

@likme
I think I'll make a better version later this week.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@RavySnake
Playing neutralshit in Unranked
No user, you are the cancer.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

You should have to skip your draw phase and be unable to attack for two turns if you heal for even one HP. Fuck all of you worthless healsluts.

girlDog
girlDog

@RavySnake
anomaly
You deserved to lose and get taunted

Techpill
Techpill

@GoogleCat
No. It's worse, if anything.

cum2soon
cum2soon

What is wrong with the translation team? I bet that sooner or later there will be a card (if there isn't one already) that won't actually work with Loki but the English translation will suggest that it does.
Why can't they just bite the bullet now before even more expansions come out and fix the cards that are supposed to read as fanfare to have it? Why does the shitty translation team think they know better than the creators of the fucking game?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@TalkBomber
Tenko gets +3+3 because you will be playing her with elana on board
Elana can be removed and I usually remove it immediately.
You can't remove the "LMAO I HAVE A 9/8 GILGAMESH OUT OF HAND" bullshit.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@lostmypassword
Neutral elf is cancer
You mean Lion haven, you know very very well there's no other viable option for elf.
@Booteefool
@girlDog
Keep that hate speech for Dshift.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@eGremlin
Name 1 deck that is currently t1 or heck I'll be extremely generous, t2 that runs pre turn 8 amulet removal cards.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@cum2soon
Change that to "Necromancy, Earth Rite etc which activates when play from hand"
Same as Fanfare.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Soft_member
turn 8 amulet removal cards
what is execution?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@cum2soon
This Fanfare inconsistency is annoying as fuck. When you see the ruletext on Ginger and Elta (and now Loki), it's infuriating. That's a pretty big change for the game and I think they will never do it.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Can someone explain the leaders being in SL packs? I still don't get it. And what about the other leaders, how will they be obtainable?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Sir_Gallonhead
Spicy.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

unpack Dark Angel Olivia and Enstatued Seraph in the same pack
It's like the game is trying to tell me something

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Soft_member
Emeralda

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Sharpcharm
Sill no Fenrir card.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Emberfire
Out of all the t1 and t2 decks only aegis haven runs execution
wew you sure have shown me

Booteefool
Booteefool

play neutral cancer
draw nothing but neutral cards
never draw Alice
finally draw Alice
hand is full of craft cards
Can't make this shit up.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@BunnyJinx
2 of them will be in SL packs pull. 1 is Imperial Dragoon. The rest likely will be in next expansion.
We don't know it'll pollute lego pull or not so keep watching.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Bidwell
Emeralda.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@iluvmen
This post is more than likely bait because it's so retarded, but I've actually seriously so some idiots saying that it's good in Dragon because it gets 4 whopping extra health from Israfil.

Hey retards. You know what else you could play instead of an 8pp 5/5 do nothing. You could play an 8pp 6/7 that turn and get the 4 extra health anyways

MPmaster
MPmaster

@girlDog
Does her pauldron have a name like Cerberus' puppets?

cum2soon
cum2soon

Everything is cancer
Why is it always like this. Why do you care so much.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@CodeBuns
Loki, Helblindi and Gunnlod made it in. There is still hope for Fenrir.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Garbage Can Lid
not to mention all the extra synergy luci gives with saha, I swear people don't even think, they just see 8pp neutral leggo, must be a dragon card!

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

KMR-san we need to come up with a new leggo for sword
just add 1 to all the numbers of Jeno Levin Vanguard

This leggo is absolutely fucking garbage.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Bidwell
It has synergy with Imperial Dragoon, if Rites procs before the 2nd Fanfare. That's the best way to use Loki right now.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Deadlyinx
This deck is shit.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Stupidasole
recyclable Jeno that gets cheaper if your opponent tries to refill his board
Yeah, it sure looks bad.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@VisualMaster
playing a single 5 PP rush on turn 5 against a board with 4+ followers on it

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Stupidasole
It's a 1 or 2-of in a Control Sword deck, that's about it. It's nothing amazing, Luminous Mage is better tempo than Barbarossa. It has good synergy with Support Cannon too.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

retards honestly think control swrod will be viable

No heal
No draw
no board clears

Luffing my ass off desu, what exactly is control sword winning strategy?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Gigastrength
The Last Words effect checks if there are 3 or more enemy followers at the start of your turn, after your opponent tries to regain board control. If he did play 3 followers, you get a 2 PP Barbarossa. Otherwise, you forced him to not play wide and you can have an easier time removing 2 followers.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Stupidasole
It will likely see use in Control Sword, but nothing else.

And since Control Sword autoloses to Dshift, in the end, it's who gives a shit?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Gigastrength
Art of Drawing Sword into Alexdander bro
Board with 4+ followers when Sword is Rush Craft

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

reddit already rabidly defending the anniversary leader fiasco
Every single time

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Stupidasole
It's definitely not a 3-of, but I could see 1 or 2 in a control deck. I don't see it being played on turn 5 either, considering how many other cards are fucking five cost at this point.

idontknow
idontknow

All these submaster retards who can't understand why Loki will only be played in Dragon

its not about dragons fanfares, shitters. its about dragons RAMP. its about being able to play loki early on when he isn't a fucking GIGANTIC TEMPO LOSS.

good luck playing a 5/5 do nothing on turn 8 as literally any other craft

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Flameblow
Here:
https://imgur.com/WAX4mHZ

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Can anyone link me the discord invite?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@StrangeWizard
yeah man

i can just imagine all those games where a 5 drop 5/4 rush that turns into a 8 pp 5/4 rush will win me a game

Nojokur
Nojokur

@PurpleCharger
Well yeah, they always defend the practices of every company on reddit. They would defend increasing the gold prices on packs

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@whereismyname
Danke

viagrandad
viagrandad

@PurpleCharger
anons cry it's bad
KMR did nothing wrong

hairygrape
hairygrape

@idontknow
This honestly. What fanfare is great enough to justify a turn 8 do nothing?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Fried_Sushi
I most definitely think Alexander is going to come back next expansion. With Art of Sword Drawing and Gawain, he can much more consistently be dropped earlier. So Sword's board clears might be better.

Regardless, Control Sword still rides the boarder between being a Control and Grinder deck since Leo/Albert are flimsy win conditions which means that it's still going to lose heavily to control decks with a real win condition and of course Dshit.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@hairygrape
Imperial Dragoon.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Fried_Sushi
No heal
Unico
No draw
Lou
no board clears
Alex

5mileys
5mileys

@idontknow
You're posting as if this is news.
Everybody already knew that most 8pp+ cards are dragon only and people already checked every single combo they could find and found middling results other than Chimera.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Supergrass
heals
Unico

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@SniperWish
implying loki will be played on turn 8
Its obviously implying all non dragon crafts

Soft_member
Soft_member

@hairygrape
Tyrant.

Inmate
Inmate

@hairygrape
Temptress

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@PurpleCharger
reading reddit
visiting reddit
posting about reddit
Just fuck off to discord or other trash hole, you underage faggot

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

never ever

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Boy_vs_Girl
he's falling for the bad saha meme

lmao

i'll look forward to all of you drawing that card, and not having an appropriate follower to use it with

literally worse than dance of death

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Soft_member
requires 40 shadows or minthe surviving 2 turns (minthe -> loki -> tyrant)
if you do loki -> minthe + tyrant, minthe will eat up loki's effect and you're fucked
good luck with that

@Inmate
targeted, doesn't work

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@PurpleCharger
going to reddit
But anyway the people who like it are people who don't care about the leader skins anyway because they can get new leaders as a "bonus" for opening packs. They aren't thinking about shitty legendaries like Fairy princess polluting the legendary pulls, or people who actually want specific leader skins getting screwed.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@PurpleCharger
going to reddit at all
Just stay there you fucking retard.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@happy_sad
And if they add several more fanfare keywords over the span of following expansions? Like they already have with enhance, might I add.
We can either end up with fanfare-related cards that read like fucking books with a list of twenty different things or they could actually do their fucking job and translate the cards to read what they originally said. Because that's what I want, a fucking translation, not a localization because they were afraid that two keywords in a row will make hearthbabs' brain explode.
The decision to omit fanfare from those effects was idiotic and with zero foresight. Yes, at the time of standard it shortened many cards by one word. Now it makes newer cards needlessly wordy (by several words, not just one) and you never know what might come next so it's entirely possible that something will just be impossible to make sense of in English. It would be better to future-proof now while it's still relatively manageable.
But really my biggest peeve is that this just shows that either the translation team is arrogant for thinking they know better than the creators or incompetent for not realizing that this will become a problem and fixing it in time.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@kizzmybutt
It is not stated if they need the same resources for the second activation, if that's the case then Chime wouldn't work with it either.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Match ID 93237
My kingdom for a concede, dear user.

Methshot
Methshot

@GoogleCat
Yes. If it duplicates the same Fanfare, Chimera/Tyrant can work. If it triggers the same Fanfare a second time, those combos don't work. If we read the official english text, it says "activate that ability one more time". It shouldn't work, but trusting the ENG text isn't smart, so we'll have to see when it's live.

likme
likme

meme roost
didn't draw aegis
fun

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Fuzzy_Logic
They'll change it someday but not in near future.
Yu-gi-oh took 10 years to do it.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Been out of the game for a while, since last nerf to snow white. Did something changeds at all? is PTP forest still hot shit, along with haven? Is blood fuking ded?
Reading the nerfs eachtar is basically the same so I guess absolutely nothing changed.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@MPmaster
I wasn't aware that the pauldron was sentient.

StonedTime
StonedTime

pls
86354

Soft_member
Soft_member

@cum2soon
No. The best way to use Loki is to double Chimera's Fanfare.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@StonedTime
thanks minty <3

TechHater
TechHater

@Supergrass
Small nerfs had more impact than you think. Mid-Shadow had gotten incredibly greedy thanks for Eachtar autowinning matches, and trying to play the exact same build is yielding much lower WRs. It's actually so slow and greedy now it's almost a negative matchup against dshit.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Supergrass
PTP Forest still hot shit
In what world?
Blood
Mostly Aggro. BKB should be dead along with Spawn but 1 month late is better than nothing.
Haven
Neutral Haven is flavor deck of this month due to highroll ability
Eachtar
It's a big hit because you summon 2 zombies or not at all. Can't chain back to back Eachtar anymore.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@kizzmybutt
Minthe doesn't have Fanfare. How would she waste Loki's effect? Are you implying that it would apply to the next immediate follower even if it doesn't have a Fanfare effect?

massdebater
massdebater

@GoogleCat
animated fucking eidolon
wow
that's cool

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Soft_member
wheres the webm? you promised me a webm

Illusionz
Illusionz

@massdebater
Tutor for 0 attack followers never ever.

WebTool
WebTool

@Harmless_Venom
https://shadowverse-portal.com/card/104541010
Read this and come back here

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@SniperWish
@whereismyname
Too lazy to make a webm when I can export it as a gif

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Supergrass
Eachtar got nerfed 3 times with the nerf, it doesn't seem like it but it's pretty significant.

he requires 4 shadows per zombie instead of 3
he requires 8 shadows to spawn zombies at all, if you have 7 shadows, you get nothing
he can only spawn 2 zombies max instead of 4

He's still playable as a finisher, but his ability to wipe the board if you're behind is severely nerfed because of those changes. He doesn't do everything now.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Harmless_Venom
Minthe doesn't have Fanfare

Evilember
Evilember

@SniperWish
He just posted it, famtachi
@whereismyname
I was thinking it was going to be the clothed normal version, but this is better

5mileys
5mileys

@Harmless_Venom
retard alert

idontknow
idontknow

@Fuzzy_Logic
There are many repeated texts on cards too that could easily be shortened as a keyword.
I come form YGO, that has had PSCT for almost 7 years now. When I read a YGO card, I know exactly how it works and how it interacts with other cards. SV is really lacking in this department.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@PackManBrainlure
I wish Minthe won the leader polls.

Cerberus a shit.

Techpill
Techpill

What does aggro shadow look like now?
NEET to buff Phantom Howl?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@5mileys
@PackManBrainlure
@WebTool
Fuck, I am retarded. I thought her effect was continuous.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

spellboost the hell out of gigantic chimera
turn 8 loki
drop chimera at 9

Snarelure
Snarelure

@idontknow
I come form YGO, that has had PSCT for almost 7 years now. When I read a YGO card, I know exactly how it works and how it interacts with other cards. SV is really lacking in this department.
that irony when YGO has the longest ruling for each card and some interaction between those card?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@likme
1/2

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Harmless_Venom
slower dshift

massdebater
massdebater

@Harmless_Venom
spellboost the hell out of dshift
turn 8 win game

Supergrass
Supergrass

@New_Cliche
2/2

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

play brick rune against havenshitter
going back and forth countering each other
down to our last 10 cards in the deck after a pretty nice game
then the fucking scum drops Aegis
instantly lose
Fucking delete this fucking card already.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@PackManBrainlure
@WebTool

Why the fuck is her effect a Fanfare while other aura-like effects like Mary are not, anyways?

takes2long
takes2long

Pfffffft.
I just played against PtP Forestcraft. He thought he won when he dropped two of them and dealt 12 damage to my face.
He ragequit as soon as I dropped Bahamut.
Baha best boy.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@likme
@New_Cliche
he buys packs with goybux

TechHater
TechHater

@Carnalpleasure
he let the havencuck live long enough to drop aegis

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Snarelure
Most of the ruling issues in Yu-Gi-Oh come from complexity of effects vs complexity of game mechanics.
It's not an issue with the wording of card effects.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Emberburn
To prevent combos like the one everyone is going full retard over right now, they make the cards one or two expansions in advance.

5mileys
5mileys

@takes2long
You sure showed him!

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@VisualMaster
Ironically the card would still be shit even if you could Loki into Tyrant Minthe.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Emberburn
To prevent future cards that will be able to summon Minthe (think Ceridwen but cheaper) instead of playing her. Remember, this is the necromancer class, it's perfectly reasonable to print such an effect. If you want her effect, you HAVE to play her from hand, you have to spend 4PP.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@massdebater
can't play any real anti-aggro cards
have to spellboost followers and sometimes multiple copies so your deck has to be almost only spells
They are completely different.

takes2long
takes2long

@Snarelure
Now YGO card effect is clear as day to understand unless you're 7 year old.
Only exception is Kaiser Colosseum. Its effect is way too complicated. (likely that's a reason Kaiser is banned in TCG bacause too many rouge decks ran it)

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

this game has korean dubs

so any gooks in here know if its any good or not

FastChef
FastChef

@TechHater
God bless for curing those chemo from the ladder buddy

askme
askme

@Spazyfool
not playing the daria package

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Carnalpleasure
Just Full Moon bro.

@takes2long
It's not easy to understand to anyone. You have to know how PSCT works to get everything. It's easy, of course, after you know the PSCT rules.

massdebater
massdebater

@FastChef
I made this deck specifically to shit on all elana, seraph and aegiscucks who have been terrorizing my 2 mains. Still having trouble vs some storm builds and unga ambush sword obviously but it feels good.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@takes2long
Just today:
be PtP Forest
against Ramp Stall Dragon
got to 30 shadows, drop PtP
he got 5 cards (no fervor was used), dropes Baha
I Execute'd him and placed my second PtP
He dropes Isra
I drop my third PtP, he concedes

Sure was a fun game.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

got 5-0 arena run because I got Dragonsong flute, dragon oracles and draconic fervors
This card combo is SS tier in arena, now I want that card to be viable in normal mode

Snarelure
Snarelure

nerf ____

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Post triggering images

Methnerd
Methnerd

@CodeBuns
People are just scared of it because "wall of text" thing.
YGO only has a bunch of keywords and several summoning methods and that's enough to play. I taught my cousin how to play YGO he's able to play a simple match with Lightsworn deck.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Snarelure
me daddy ;)

Soft_member
Soft_member

How many rupies do you have currently saved? 6k here.

StonedTime
StonedTime

How do people win with those shitty neutral decks?
The whole fucking ladder is nothing but Neutral and they ALL draw much fucking better than me every single time.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Soft_member
just 1k, I was trying to pull a roland but I gave up on that dream...

Techpill
Techpill

playing neutral sword vs ptp forest
he went first
2,3pp double sylvan justice
4pp ancient elf
5pp may ancient elf may my board is clear
6pp altered fate
7pp 3rd ancient elf but I TOPDECKed cock
cock + faeria suddenly the table has turned
8pp aerin nice save but I TOPDECKed another cock again
9pp perfect ETA sniped my high atk and bane followers, then aerin again
me pirate to close the game
It is ridiculous despite forest's nice hands and winning the coinflip shit just completely turned 180 when I dropped the cock and faeria combo.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Soft_member
6k as well, cutie.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Need_TLC
I pulled three of her and I rarely use her

Inmate
Inmate

@Flameblow
Oh I wasn't playing during TotG, I took a break during that time

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Soft_member
its actually 12k rupies now

SniperGod
SniperGod

@viagrandad
Man the harpoons

Playboyize
Playboyize

Revelation this controlcuck

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@StonedTime
If you can't 1234 curve out with alice you need to reexamine your deck and your play

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Playboyize
moooooooooooooooooooooom

w8t4u
w8t4u

@PackManBrainlure
t. controlcuck who can't use le ebin cheap removals to drag the game

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Fuzzy_Logic
if you can't be lucky reexamine your deck
There is nothing to fucking reexamine, it's the same deck literally everyone plays, they just draw well and I don't.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Ignoramus
Luminous Mage
lumi mage can often get cleared by a single lyrial or whatever. forcing them to not play anything along with that is a big tempo win

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Playboyize
Doing gods work Tanaka-san.

Spamalot
Spamalot

see insight
concede
not playing with you subhumans

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Spamalot
play daria
they concede because of t1 insight
Thanks for the free wins.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Soft_member
60 and im gonna spend it all once it reaches 100

im a returning player

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Spamalot
Playing Daria
Turn 1 Insight
Hag concedes
I should put these in my dirt rune deck too.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

draft 3 scarlet sabretuers
draw them all against the big body dragoncraft
draw none of them against the two swordcraft grandmasters

I hate this format so much, especially the pairing people of higher skill with the lower ones.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Spamalot
Playing Ginger
T1 insight
They concede
Thank you.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Spamalot
play dirtrune
t1 0/2 concede golem
lose
What the fuck?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Soft_member
5800

TechHater
TechHater

@Spamalot
Playing ptp rune
T1 insight
free win
Thank you

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Soft_member
I'll have 3000 by the time expansion hits, so 40 packs overall.

5mileys
5mileys

@Soft_member
7k2
I'm gonna open something like 90 packs with SFL easily. That is, if the next reveals can justify blowing my load. I'll just spend 4-5k and craft whatever is strong if the rest of the set doesn't have something worthwhile. They haven't revealed any Haven leggos yet, there's hope. Haven leggos always deliver.

Skullbone
Skullbone

does this list look ok
i keep losing games with it

RumChicken
RumChicken

@PurpleCharger
he didn't hit gm
Too bad you missed 20 free paxx

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Skullbone
ditch the spiderweb imps for that vengeance guy.

girlDog
girlDog

@Skullbone
Is this supposed to be pure aggro or KYS blood what the fuck are you doing my man

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Skullbone
reroll

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Dreamworx
the who?
@girlDog
its supposed to be aggro, i just copied the gamepress tournament list

cum2soon
cum2soon

God in so fucking tired of all this bullshit neutral highroll faggotry. This game is such a fucking joke, you literally can't do a fucking thing but get hit in the face every turn and lose on t6

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Spamalot
This is what I do as well. No point in playing a 0-100 matchup, let them have their measly 100 point charity and go queue up into an actual match. They're going to lose it anyways to ambush/neutral cancer.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Skullbone
there's no way you need that many 2 drops. if you're planning on going into mid/late game with this deck with sabreur and emeralda, you need to build it up more with at least airjammers and maybe soul dealers for vengeance consistency.
also consider cutting out the 1 drops for airjammer pulls, or at least the cursebrand vampires. as of right now, your deck just looks like bad aggro that will get stabilized against immediately and overrun.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@CouchChiller
This not ''aggro'', like half of the deck needs to be replaced if you want unga bats.

Methshot
Methshot

@RumChicken
I'm only A1, so that's to be expected.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@CouchChiller
Try out that Carabosse list floating around. I've lost against it a couple of times, especially as control. Can't deal with all the free cards and damage, especially if they drop 2x or even 3x Carabosse

TechHater
TechHater

play brick rune
run into much better control decks with actual wincons like Dshit, Aegis and even C.blood
switch to neutral rune
immediately matched with other, better drawing neutral cancer including and elf with triple B&B and infinite Neps
I fucking hate this fucking game, for real.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@CouchChiller
Devil of Vengeance

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Soft_member
None, because I was trying pull Cinderella this whole time.
I can safely ignore this next expansion anyways, nothing I really want.

Techpill
Techpill

@Evil_kitten
carabosse stacks?

King_Martha
King_Martha

If I don't get moonbun leader I quit

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Spazyfool
We haven't even seen half of the cards yet.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Did they changed Master Alchemist art?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Is it even worth it to save this shit for the next expansion pack?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@hairygrape
I only care about Forest and there's nothing in particular I want so far. I'll grab the gold taunt and I'll certainly give Cass a college try.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Illusionz
I only care about Forest
Oh, then this expansion isn't for you

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Garbage Can Lid
Oh, then this game isn't for you
fixed

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@King_Martha
Same. This gacha system for accquiring new leaders is the scummiest thing the devs have ever done to this game.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Nude_Bikergirl
20 packs is better than no packs, you can pull Fairy princes and get nice leader for forest

JunkTop
JunkTop

@DeathDog
Three expansions as Tier 0 cancer
Forest mains still bitch when they don't have a tier 1 deck for two expansions

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

FUCK NEUTRAL FUCK NEUTRAL FUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!

happy_sad
happy_sad

@King_Martha
same but albert instead

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Techpill
Yes.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Garbage Can Lid
Exactly, I'm keeping my rupies.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@JunkTop
Forest was never Tier 0, it was Tier 1 before nerfs in standard, DE and RoB so for like half of those, and it has been the worst craft for the last two expansion

Emberburn
Emberburn

@King_Martha
This rabbit looks fat, who is the father?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Raving_Cute
you can pull Fairy princes and get nice leader for forest
Arisa is the nicest leader though

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@JunkTop
PtP was t0 in the hands of a master.

Evilember
Evilember

@JunkTop
replying to avatarfags
why tho

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@JunkTop
it was only accidentally good in rob too since forest got no good class cards they just got two neutral cards

Lunatick
Lunatick

half of the Sword cards so far has Rush
Do they seriously expect the game to stop being firstverse when they keep making evos more worthless every expansion?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Lunatick
nerf haven btw

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Lunatick
Yeah, I don't get this. The should be making new strong 4pp evo followers, not this shit.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Ignoramus
I would have bought moonbun for crystals, this is the worst system ever

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

What if I get dark general? Shes a fucking bronze.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Lunatick
Evo is Haven mechanic now

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@TurtleCat
Thank you.

Evilember
Evilember

@TurtleCat
Apparently the leaders are going to be a special 9th card

happy_sad
happy_sad

@TurtleCat
The only confirmed leader so far is Dragoon dude, despair after she's the confirmed second one.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

What are the cheapest decks for each craft? I already have my decks for laddering, I just need decks for completing dailies in unranked.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Lunatick
Sword's rush cards don't promote firstverse. They're primarily used in the same way other classes use spells and amulets. That is to say, they're almost exclusively used to suicide into enemies. Additionally, since Sword has so few ways of clearing board, their only method is to evolve followers every turn to keep from being overwhelmed. Because of this, it's only natural that Sword get followers with rush in order to help them clear the board while still maintaining some class identity.

Firstverse is caused by powercrept low-curve followers with on/over-curve stats and overwhelming effects that don't require evolution points.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Evilember
Source? If this is true I might be not so pissed about this whole thing.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@TalkBomber
Just make a Neutral deck for every class. They don't need to be optimized if it's for dailies, you just need to highroll with Alice.

likme
likme

Will Zodiac Demon + Dark Alice be the hot new combo of Starforged Legends?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Lunatick
nvm I lied someone told me this but it was from a cygames apologist on reddit saying that is maybe how it will be done

whereismyname
whereismyname

@likme
Unlikely.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@likme
Yeah, just like Dreadshift

farquit
farquit

alright man

Evilember
Evilember

76556 please concede.

TechHater
TechHater

@Lord_Tryzalot
fuck you, dreadshift is rad as hell

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Hi could I please have a concede at 76506
Thank you!!

Firespawn
Firespawn

@farquit
no compation for shadowshitter

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Evilember
Thank you

DeathDog
DeathDog

@farquit
Just Bahamut, bro.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Stupidasole
Thanks Luci

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@ZeroReborn
:)

Methnerd
Methnerd

@farquit
neutral shadow
You deserved it, faggot.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@likme
it's gonna brick your post-alice hand

DeathDog
DeathDog

@farquit
shadow
losing to forest
you suck

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Methnerd
That's clearly not Neutral Shadow, you retard.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@StonedTime
Alice is effectively a wincon, though.
You're supposed to have a lot of neutral 8-10 mana cards and just draw them every round after Dark Alice.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@StonedTime
You basically just run this deck with the addition of Zodiac Demon: https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/8201/dark-alice-finds-satan
Should be pretty swell.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Dreamworx
@TurtleCat
I mean I guess it could be avoided if you have a solid hand before you pull the trigger on it. What I'm worried about is when alice banishes your whole hand, and then you're left with the chance of drawing another one of your zodiacs. But i guess the chances of that are pretty small, especially if you manage your hand before that, it could work, you're right.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@StonedTime
not wanting that sweet 13 face damage

cum2soon
cum2soon

@JunkTop
PtP and Gobu Roach were both Tier 0

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@cum2soon
Tier 0 implies no counter, sword actually had a winning record against forest in RoB because they used a lot of wards and daria could win the game by turn 4-6 before roach could even get the combo off. It was strong in RoB but not tier 0 though

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Harmless_Venom
Seems like I missed this sticker pack, do you have the link?

FastChef
FastChef

@Deadlyinx
A deck with a 60%+ winrate in Masters wasn't Tier 0

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Ignoramus
I downloaded this one like... months ago, should be the first one in the sticky, http://dl.stickershop.line.naver.jp/products/0/0/1/9143/iphone/[email protected]

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Deadlyinx
Sword was tier 0 in RoB then

girlDog
girlDog

should i vial my animated corpselord?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@girlDog
No, he'll be T1 with the new shadow amulet.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@girlDog
i crafted 3, and then vialed them all back. couldnt make em work :/

Nojokur
Nojokur

@FastChef
OTK roach never had a 60%+ overall in masters, are you talking about against a certain class? that is where people get confused

Spamalot
Spamalot

@girlDog
vialing animated cards

hairygrape
hairygrape

FUCK NEUTRAL FUCK NEUTRAL FUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@hairygrape
nerf Teatime

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Spamalot
keeping cosmetic you'll never use anyways
next you'll tell me you bother changing language for shitty nip skins

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

when is the next tournament?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@SomethingNew
Teatime is cancer, agreed.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@hairygrape
nerf oracle

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Bidwell
he didnt change language to nip
You get 2 FREE packs for voting for next tounrey champion +2packs if he gets 2nd place +5 packs if he wins.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@CodeBuns
work on that reading comprehension senpai

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Stupidasole
My wife

happy_sad
happy_sad

@hairygrape
@SomethingNew
remove alice
remove sibyl
remove pepe
remove dshift
remove lion

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@happy_sad
all shadow cards are fine
I wonder who could be behind this post
Fuck off nep shitter.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

29711
Concede please.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@happy_sad
i really, REALLY wonder who could be bhind this post

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@PackManBrainlure
Thank you!

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Spazyfool
hectar nerfed to unplayble status
shitters now target a meme deck that only works against a very specific archetype half the time
When will they just let go?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@New_Cliche
Tier 0 by every other craft being complete fucking shit, except Roach which sword was always strong against, and Daria which was the true tier 0 until Piercing Rune nerf hit.
Then Sybil, Eachtar, Aegis, Oz, Alice, the entirety of Bloodcraft came out while the only good sword card to come out of ToG/WD was Luminious Mage.

Booteefool
Booteefool

neutralshitters are now mad about Nep because she's one of the very few decks that can actually win against them with enough luck
Stay mad.
Neutralcancer will be cleansed.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

This is next Havencraft legendary.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Spazyfool
Post doesn't mention any Forest or Blood cards either
Must be the big bad shadow bogeyman

farquit
farquit

@BinaryMan
So by that logic, shadow was also only strong because everything else was complete shit?
Just fucking admit your craft was top tier because it had great cards, don't fucking sugarcoat it and try to weasel out of it by giving examples of what happened in the future, when other crafts got broken shit.

StonedTime
StonedTime

opponent draws Alice
lose
Nice fucking game.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Starforged Legends is upon us soon! Which new cards from the upcoming expansion do you think will drive the new meta?
Answer Intern-kun!

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Flameblow
We didn't see all cards yet...

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Flameblow
We don't know, not all cards are out yet.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Booteefool
Nep can beat Neutral

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@iluvmen
maybe YOU didn't, nerd

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@iluvmen
...
go on?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@TalkBomber
Why do you think people play her all of a sudden?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@PackManBrainlure
...but i think Zodiac will make Dark Alice at least tier 2.

takes2long
takes2long

Real talk, for the most part Shadow cards aren't really that amazing on their own. The craft is bullshit, but it was the weakest craft in DE and there's very little difference between the lists these days and the lists back then.

Eachtar was, still is part of the reason Shadow is bullshit now, but it's really more than just that. It's not that Shadow got a lot of busted cards, it's that Shadow's got a lot of busted synergy. It's a craft that goes from bottom to top tier because a few things flow better and make weak enablers viable. It's probably a mess on CyGame's end to work with it.

Forest and Rune are in the same boat. The other crafts tend to run a lot of shit with consistent value in a vacuum, like how Albert would be playable in any craft but something as busted cards like roach might not be playable in really, any other craft. I don't want to defend Shadow, it is bullshit, but I think people totally have the wrong idea about why. It wasn't t2 reaper that was a problem, it was t3 chimera into t4 double reaper.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Lunatick
I am not seeing Nep being played at all.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

if you reply to it i quit

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

I love this cards. Its kinda shame that its 5pp, it wouldve been balanced at 7 with rush.
And holy shit this is SSS+ tier card in arena, honestly if you pick sword, and see White Ridge, you fucking PICK WHITE RIDGE.

Anyone here has favourite underperforming card?

farquit
farquit

@Flameblow
Mordecai the best but why Mordecai?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@TalkBomber
Just in the last two threads there are multiple complaints about Nep already and every single shadow I run into now plays Nep.
Masters btw.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@SomethingNew
Probably Gruff for me.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Stark_Naked
RAGE? This weekend I think

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Wait, what's this about gacha for the anniversary leaders? Am I understanding this right because that legit sounds like the scummiest thing ever if I am

cum2soon
cum2soon

What other cards might as well be a part of another craft?
Gobu and Feena might as well be Forest
Urd for Shadow
Every neutral legendary for dragon
etc.

Techpill
Techpill

@cum2soon
Urd is just a Shadow card
Have you never seen Haven or Dragon run it for double value on Storm cards or something?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Ah crap, rerolled into concede quest.
73445

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@cum2soon
Lyrial, Grimnir and Unica in every single craft.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@GoogleCat
user...

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Need_TLC
We dont have any fucking info, its all speculations that old alt-legos will interfere with new legos pulls.

If you need my opinion, ods on opening Alt-arts are gonna be hella fucking low (to milk whales) and its prolly going to be additional card in pack or something (because honestly, shadowverse is really f2p friendly)

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@cum2soon
Gobu goes well in Rune at the moment.

WebTool
WebTool

So if you play Art of Sword Sheathing on turn 9 to summon Leonidas, then play Urd on him will you get to keep the Leonidas on the field and the Amulet?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@cum2soon
Gobu and Urd have seen play in tons of crafts faggot. Also Wallet Rune has been a thing for awhile, neutral legends used to see a lot of play in sword lists, and I've even been seeing some wallet forest lists lately.

I don't think I've ever seen Feena outside of forest though so I'll give you that.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Thank you Tyrant.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@cum2soon
Except Feena specifically and neutral dragon legendraies I don't think there are any other cards that particularly stand out as craft specific desu.
I legit forgot that Feena is not a forest card a few times when someone else played her against me on those rare occasions.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@cum2soon
Gobu is used by like every neutral deck

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@WebTool
Yes, the Urd resummon should dispel Art's text from him, and then the new Leonidas' Resolve will give the new one the buff and rush.

w8t4u
w8t4u

corpselord of woe is safe to vial right

whereismyname
whereismyname

@cum2soon
Urd for Shadow
Prepare your anus for t9 leonidas+urd

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Garbage Can Lid
I don't get why blood insists on playing neutralshit when they've got the best aggro deck around that is much easier to win with.
Unless it was control which would explain why you are not dead yet

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@w8t4u
He is better than new lego.

WebTool
WebTool

@VisualMaster
Thanks loli vamp.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

tfw haven't pulled a legendary from a pack in 7 weeks

Inmate
Inmate

@Fried_Sushi
Believe

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@whereismyname
I don't think I've ever seen Feena outside of forest though
Java Dragon

Inmate
Inmate

finishing up the story chapters
that fucking Rowen chapter with Dragonsong Flute + Fairy support
Imagine if Forest was actually allowed to have nice things and had their own version of the Flute

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@w8t4u
I don't think so. He's not meta, but he's more playable than Dark Alice right now and she even has a deck that shows up here and there, and he's got a better chance than she does of becoming good in the future if they add more early game Shadow generation.

If you've hit your cards perfectly and get a Corpselord rolling, the enemy has to commit so ridiculously hard to dealing with him.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@whereismyname
@Soft_member
Feena is used by dragon. In jabberwock, windmill and sometimes newt otk

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Inmate
Just Rose Queen bro :^)

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

turn 9
7/8 rush
10/11 rush after
I cant wait for next expansion, feels good to be sword player, now if only cygames removed ramp.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@WebTool
Yes, it works like that with Sahaquiel and Urd if you reduce their cost with Wyvern Cavalier or Roost.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Evil_kitten
implying c. sword will be viable
Enjoying getting chipped down to an easy lethal before you can really get your good shit going.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@w8t4u
Because a lot of their class shit is janky or lowers their own health in aggro vs aggro races?

It's like "wow blood wolf", which you hope doesn't get killed for free by Angel of the Word or Lyrial, and then... uh... bats? Play some shitty slow as fuck vampire fortress?

Most crafts' in-class cards are just not very good at early game Curvecraft, which is probably the biggest reason Neutralcraft sees so much play.

Haven has anti-tempo amulet trash, Forest has 1/1 trash, Dragon has discard combo trash so lol.

So that leaves Shadow, who would rather use synergy cards. Rune, who only does a lot of on-board stuff in dirt rune, and can neutral okay enough. And Sword, who could run neutral stuff or their own.

So 6/7 Crafts get enough from neutral to consider running the package, and 3-4/7 just don't have better/similar early game alternatives.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@w8t4u
Good luck dealing any damage to me, when 80% of my cards have rush

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Stark_Naked
Jannu?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Stark_Naked
I would prolly kill for her emblem

TechHater
TechHater

Is Eris a delicious cake

likme
likme

@Stark_Naked
I hope she's good in nuCSword so I can orb her without regrets

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@TechHater
She's a seventeen years old JK.

takes2long
takes2long

@SomethingNew
Definitely Temptress, I'm so glad she's good in the post-nerf CBlood lists.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Bidwell
What is the lore behind this man?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Fuzzy_Logic
D0?

idontknow
idontknow

I just unpacked otomeme from my standard pack daily, what do I do with her

FastChef
FastChef

@idontknow
Worship her feet

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@idontknow
Masturbate

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Fuzzy_Logic
Not even the same artist and Roland isn't a Saint

@likme
Have a read one of these days, waifufag
https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/basis/roland-ohag.asp

MPmaster
MPmaster

@idontknow
Wait for Vuella

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

tfw enemy shadownigger plays nephthys while I have a Yurius on the board and kills himself
Is this truly the best feeling, bros?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Fried_Sushi

Richest King in history Musa I of Mali

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Sir_Gallonhead
play overstat card
win
moooooooooooooooooom

Evilember
Evilember

@Fried_Sushi
He wuz kangz

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

What is Sexy Pose trying to tell me, /svg/?

askme
askme

@PurpleCharger
I'm a sexy woman!

Illusionz
Illusionz

Hello there! New player here. Is this a good time to get into the game?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Illusionz
As good time as any really.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Sir_Gallonhead
play powerless card
win
That's the best feeling, bro.

Techpill
Techpill

@Illusionz
That would have been a year ago.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Techpill
Then no? Is it way too p2w now?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Illusionz
yes

massdebater
massdebater

concede pls

75043

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Fried_Sushi
@Inmate
What's the story behind her scars? Is she some sort of zombie?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Illusionz
no

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Firespawn
compation

massdebater
massdebater

emote spamming ambush swordnigger going first with perfect curve

it's not fair to make me hate erika, fuck you

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Carnalpleasure
it's not p2w. it's as good a time as any to join

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Carnalpleasure
The game is not p2w. You can usually have 2-3 competitive decks by the end of your first week if you reroll you initial cards and do the beginner missions. Neutral archetype is strong now, so you can basically play the same deck for all the classes.
this might change though because there's a new expansion in 2 weeks, but in lower ranks it probably wouldn't matter much.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Illusionz
2 months ago would have been better when two legos were giving full vials
There's only one lego giving full value right now (Eachtar) but that's pretty good on its own. I doubt there's any more legos on the chopping block for this month so it's probably a good a time as any

Evilember
Evilember

@Carnalpleasure
Is it way too p2w now?
Not really, its just that the meta sucks and the new expansion doesn't look all that exciting. If you are really desperate for a card game time sync then it isn't that bad.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Emberfire
Yeah, Zombie chick

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

finally get a good curve with Discard Dragon
draw 24 cards and no Dragoon

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Deadlyinx
Nice _cat

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@TurtleCat
when two legos were giving full vials
which two?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Carnalpleasure
There still isn't a more f2p viable card game, even if it got a bit worse after they increased the number of legendaries per pack.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@massdebater

thx luna

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Sharpcharm
2
There were actually 3
Ourobo, spawn and snow white.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Sharpcharm
It's 3 actually. Spawn, Ouroboros and Snow White.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Sharpcharm
I meant 3, i got them mixed up

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Deadlyinx
I want to smell her cat.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Deadlyinx
She looks like waifu material.
Please give her to shadow, Cygames.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Fuzzy_Logic
https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/basis/roland-ohag.asp
Nice.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

When is the RAGE thing we voted for?

Spamalot
Spamalot

leaks when

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Fried_Sushi
@Spamalot
5 minutes

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Need_TLC
Just ward bro

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Fried_Sushi
The same day than my birthday.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Can we agree that Lyrial, Unica, Angel of the Word and Grimnir are actually worse than Alice and Feria?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@kizzmybutt
oh that helps

RavySnake
RavySnake

The only thing I hate more than eagles are Lions

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@TreeEater
They actually are.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@TreeEater
Absolutely useless without Alice and the broken neutral support.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@TreeEater
(You)

hairygrape
hairygrape

@TreeEater
Neutral cards in general have gotten too powerful.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Emberburn
All of them have been used in almost every deck before Alice and Feria made them broken.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@StrangeWizard
As support, no as the main lead like they are now.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Boy_vs_Girl
I fucking love those Victorian dresses.
Any more art with similar design?

whereismyname
whereismyname

Unnerf Grimnir.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@StrangeWizard
So what? Neutral cards being playable doesn't make them nerf worthy or anything of the like.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Dreamworx
Too many neutral cards are simply better then what the classes have available.
Lyrial and Unica are arguably numbers 1 and 2 in terms of best 2 drops in the game outside of maybe snow white.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@hairygrape
this what in the actual fuck were they thinking?

the damage this expansion has done is going to take ages to fix itself if at all

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@PackManBrainlure
JURURI

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

golden lion frozen mammoth turn 5
Only the dead can know peace from this cancer.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@whereismyname
how did they nerf him? he seems the exact same from what i remember in totg

Techpill
Techpill

@PackManBrainlure
Lyrial is literally fucking Fighter on turn 2. It's nothing special as a 2 drop.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Booteefool
Enhance doesn't hit face. You didn't notice because no games ever reach turn 10 now.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Techpill
Except its really easy to ignore fighter
You can't ignore Lyrial.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@PackManBrainlure
Lyrial and Unica are arguably numbers 1 and 2 in terms of best 2 drops in the game outside of maybe snow white.
what is levi
what is roach
what is yurius
what is spiderweb
what is lurching
what is maid leader aka albert tutor
what is hedgehog

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@GoogleCat
not turn 4

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Crazy_Nice
You don't play levi or roach on 2

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@CouchChiller
You actually can easily ignore lyrial unless you're making greedy 1hp trades.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Crazy_Nice
Replace maid leader with blood wolf or veteran lancer.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@PackManBrainlure
Overall maybe yes, but if you want to talk about 2pp drops that are actually useful on the turn they are played then blood has the best.
Wolf, Yurias and the 1/4 ward are all really good turn 2 plays

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Crazy_Nice
first of all, 2 cost follower /= 2 drop
lurching is not even that great on turn 2 and maid leader sucks now

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Deadlyinx
not turn 4 with an eagle on top

Bidwell
Bidwell

@CouchChiller
Why? Because she can fucking ping a follower or face? Are you literally fucking retarded? If they are evoing a Lyrial that was already on board it's because you didn't contest their board at all and they are extremely ahead in tempo.
The reason why you don't ignore Lyrial right now is exactly Alice and Feria.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@VisualMaster
Ignoring a lyrial dropped turn 2 could be potentially 7 leader damage by turn 4 and thats completely ignoring their turn 3 and 4 plays.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Crazy_Nice
Levi and Roach is not 2 drop.
Yurius is pretty weak when you go 2nd.
Lurching is weak as standalone card
Maid Leader is fucking trash.
I'll give you Spiderweb Imp but not the others.
@Boy_vs_Girl
Veteran Lancer is not better than Unica or Lyrial.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@SniperWish
And Fighter would be 6.
Wow.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@VisualMaster
you cant ignore any neutrals in this day and age

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Yurias
2pp 1/3
Dragon keeper
3pp 1/5
1 fucking 5 plus added effect
How is this allowed?
Just calling out her deck being annoying now so people wouldn't say that everyone ignored her once she becomes top tier.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@cum2soon
But that has nothing to do with their effects, it has to do with Alice.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Crazy_Nice
Hell yeah roach on turn 2

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Loki + T9 Albert = 5x4 face damage

Nice """"""""""game""""""""""

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Deadlyinx
Roach you don't, but I've seen plenty of Rune players throw Levi on 2 because he's essentially a ward, and whenever they throw him on 2 they have another in hand for their evolve turn anyway.

@Boy_vs_Girl
Might as well just add both of those to the list and leave Maid Leader on it. Maid Leader's been carrying Sword along with Albert for months now, which ties into my next point;

@New_Cliche
implying Maid Leader sucks now
implying you aren't going to run both Maid Leader and Lux after SL comes out
Tutors are the best thing for consistency in a card game, there's no reason not to run as many as possible. You don't care that it's a 1/1, you care that you're massively improving your odds of turn 5 Albert into turn 6 Albert into turn 7 Albert, since that's all the class does these days and unless you're going hard control that's not looking like it's going to change.

@Garbage Can Lid
Levi and Roach
See first reply
Yurius
Not really, it's not like people are running 3pp removal to make it easier to kill him. At worst they'll trade into him and kill him with a 2pp spell, but that still saves you from taking face damage that turn.
Lurching
Most cards are weak by themselves, and Lurching isn't even that weak on his own considering it'll knock out any ward with 2 attack without any other card. Also, Shadow runs at least 9 allied minion killers these days, so it's hardly inconsistent to follow up on a turn 2 Corpse with Conversion or Eater.
Maid Leader
See third reply

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Crazy_Nice
what is vampy
what is semen demon eater
what is draconic oracle
what is BEASTCALL FUCKING ARIA
what is mainyuu
what is lux
what is fire lizard
what is soulsquasher
what is illusionist
what is dwarf alchemist
what is novice alchemist
what is clay golem/that other faggy spellboost 2/2
what is liza
what is lily
what is wildfang dragonewt
what is dragonewt scholar
what is FUCKING MUSHUSSU FORGET LYRIAL TRY LETTING THIS FAGGOT LIVE ONE TURN
This guy's a fucking idiot.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Garbage Can Lid
Veteran Lancer is not better than Unica or Lyrial.
true Ward vs pseudo Ward vs Fighter
Yeah, indeed, there is no way Veteran is better.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@ZeroReborn
I'm fairly certain Loki won't work with Albert's Enhance Fanfare

5mileys
5mileys

@ZeroReborn
That's not how it works, you fucking retard.

@JunkTop
Nobody plays Maid Leader anymore. It's too weak of a turn 2 play and it can lose you the entire game in this meta.
Also, it's not a good 2 drop, it's a terrible turn 2 play.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@lostmypassword
Daily reminder Sibyl will never EVER be nerfed, as all pros, devs, and stats agree with me that the most beautiful water waifu is perfectly balanced.

Stay mad unganiggers (:

Skullbone
Skullbone

tfw your otomeme works against Dragon

Dumb motherfucker used his Salamander's Breath too early on Floral Fencer.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

what is kunoichi trainee

farquit
farquit

@Sharpcharm
Half of those are literally pic related on turn 2.
Those are not good 2 drops. A 2 drop is not a 2pp card.

askme
askme

name 1 good shadowverse streamer

protip: you cant

Methnerd
Methnerd

FUCKING NERF ALBERT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@askme
Envybaer

Techpill
Techpill

@farquit
only half
Meanwhile literally every neutral 2/2 is. Nice try.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@farquit
A 2 drop is not a 2pp card.
Wording that better, "2 drop" doesn't mean "2pp card".

Methnerd
Methnerd

I just saw a Shadow deck use Altered Fate.
What the fuck was could have he been going for?
He had 1-drops so I thought it was aggro at first, but Altered Fate threw me off.
I was playing aggro so I didn't get to see what was his plan before the game ended.

Techpill
Techpill

Win 3 matches as Forestcraft or Swordcraft

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Methnerd
Probably Tyrant.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Methnerd
neutralshitter complaining about honestcraft

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Methnerd
Either PtP or Tyrant.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@ZeroReborn
Loki + enhanced Bandersnatch
pull 2 Bahamuts from your deck

happy_sad
happy_sad

@askme
That guy who has like 20 hours worth of atomeme gameplay uploaded on nico

@Methnerd
Sometimes people try just run altered fate as "2 PP gain a bunch of shadows". It synergizes slightly with amulet decks because it can turn their redundant amulets into actual cards. No that doesn't make it a good card in shadow.

Techpill
Techpill

@5mileys
Nobody plays Maid Leader anymore
Tell that to all the non-neutral Sword decks crawling around Masters, then. Every single traditional Sword deck I've seen over the last several days still runs her, because guaranteeing your turn 5 play is worth losing some tempo by playing a 1/1 on turn 2.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Can I get a concede?
28176

takes2long
takes2long

@Techpill
Swordcraft
How is that hard when NSword is tier 1 and Ambush is an extremely fast deck?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Techpill
Don't you have roaches and albertos?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@eGremlin
dark alice being played just because you can use a shitty nep if you have both cards in hand.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@PurpleCharger
sword
honest

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@eGremlin
Thanks Arisa!

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@viagrandad
Only class that's never been nerfed
Not honest
Is the hag upset that Albert hit him in the face?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@takes2long
right now shadow is being carried by how broken lurching + soul conversion is along with strong endgame cards like morde

Spamalot
Spamalot

I'm still mad they printed Perseus as a fucking Goblin. How much a fucking shitter he is to turn Pegasus from 5/3 to 1/2 just by riding it.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@TalkBomber
storm is the opposite of honest
uninteractive damage is fucking cancer

Techpill
Techpill

@TreeEater
strong endgame cards like morde
Damn, for a second I thought I was back in standard.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Dumb dragon netdecker locks his own board with Poly and flamerats
That sahaluci isn't that helpful now is it?

Evilember
Evilember

@Lunatick
I kinda want to put D.Alice in a Nep deck consisting only out of shadow cards so I can pull her with Nep, then draw the reaper a turn later and make people wonder what the fuck I'm doing with my deck as a joke.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@SomethingNew
the biggest problem is that there are crazy removal options like lurch that screw you over if you're trying to play high value cards without flooding

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Skullbone
Storm by itself is okay. The problem is that Cygames didn't consider the ramifications of storm effectively getting 2 extra face damage for free in addition to full evolve stats. All storm cards should get +2/+1 or +2/+0 by default.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Need a concede.
30080

Evilember
Evilember

@Sir_Gallonhead
dragon with no bahamut
Mooooooom

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@iluvmen
t. dshitter
Kill yourself.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

I want to hug Lou.

Nojokur
Nojokur

I want to fug Lou.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@takes2long
broken because of synergies is something i would argue is a GOOD thing
it makes for interesting class mechanics and interactions between the cards in them
eachtar being an exception, they should aim to push classes the way they originally pushed midrange shadow, in that it's broken because of the craft's mechanics
midrange shadow had a lot of interesting micro interactions between it's cards like catacomb, reaper, etc.
i think if all classes had decks that represented class identity like that, the game would be a lot more fun

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Where are the haven legos?

DeathDog
DeathDog

I want to make a rug out of Lou

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Nojokur
I feel you.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Evilember
What part of board lock don't you grasp?

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Harmless_Venom
there is not point since they are gonna nerf them because of the ungafaggotry
also nerf fervor

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Dreamworx
Dshift overkills everything, so storm evolves losing HP doesn't even matter for them. It's midrange decks that would benefit the most.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Harmless_Venom
got a bigger version of the medusa art?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Harmless_Venom
This desu. I would rather have more lw cards and more different triggers for them, than another card like hectar.
Maybe they could even print like a 0/2 cannot be affected by card effects follower lego that can't attack so you can consistently trigger your "kill a follower" effects in exchange for board space.

girlDog
girlDog

@hairygrape
Just conflag bro

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Dreamworx
it matters for them because it means they faceroll remove everything even more easily

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Emberfire
hags still have a victim complex when they're above most unga and even shadow on tier listings

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

medusa's serpents dont have the legendary border

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

actually complaining about lyrial and aotw
I swear I was the only one playing those since ROB.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Raving_Cute
Because they aren't a unique token that only gets generated by her. It's the same reason Queen Vampire's bats don't have a legendary border. Medusiana, which is unique, does have a legendary border.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@TechHater
@BinaryMan
CUTE!

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Raving_Cute
Just like Claudia and Forest Bats.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

discord time

SniperGod
SniperGod

@BinaryMan
I'm so disappointed that we didn't get the Medusa version of Perseus's art.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Raving_Cute
There is already another card that summons Sneks. They aren't unique like Bodyguards.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@StrangeWizard
@Dreamworx
I wish Medusa had a better effect. All you have to do is destroy her and the sneks stop being a threat whatsoever.

5mileys
5mileys

Dragonbab plays two Sybils at 10pp

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Garbage Can Lid
just play another one then

Soft_member
Soft_member

@SniperGod
Medusapedos are busy grinding GBF, don't worry

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@SniperGod
Perseus would have been better as that ward bane sword guy. The Medusa effect on evolve would make perfect sense.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@BunnyJinx
But that medusa will have the same problem. And it's not like the snakes do anything by themselves. Even if you play 3 medusas back to back I'm having a difficult time imagining a scenario where it'll be difficult to take them out.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Harmless_Venom
Please god, let that 2nd rude leggo be a dirt win condition

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Here's a roach nerf that makes sense:
Roach cards don't give a +1 to the number of cards used in a turn
Boom, roaches literally balanced

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Garbage Can Lid
That's what Euryale is for.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Illusionz
we are getting dirt dragoon, screncap this

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

LEAKS WHEN

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Lunatick
Nep is shit that bricks constantly. I vialed her and crafted dark alice. Having fun. With Zodiac i won't need to waste an evolve on turn 7.

Bidwell
Bidwell

was not here during shadow leggo reveal
phone too shitty can't browse reveal doc
Was there any shitstorm with shadow leggo?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Bidwell
7pp do nothign
its shit

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Harmless_Venom
The last 6 forest cards are going to be the good ones

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Bidwell
Yeah it's the worst shadow lego so far. 7pp fairy dragon. I hate this 2 lego format every expac.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Fried_Sushi
5 minutes

Methshot
Methshot

@Bidwell
Cygames using the shadow legendary slot to meme like usual.

Methshot
Methshot

@Skullbone
I hope you are right.

idontknow
idontknow

I think about skipping this expansion if shadow gets 2 memes. Will they make 1 lego expac next time? Or only 2 from now on?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Bidwell
I think it might be the worst legendary in the game.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@idontknow
kys pedonigger

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Methshot
It's not a meme. It's just plain bad.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Methshot
full image?
asking for a friend

Soft_member
Soft_member

leaders are in the packs
you have to pray to RNG to get them
only 2 are coming out at the end of the month
If the best leader isn't in this expac I'm not spending a single rupie on it, if this is how it's gonna be I'm gonna need to save up for the next 3 months if I want decent odds.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@idontknow
I refuse to play the game if Shadow is not tier 1!
Kill yourself, shadownigger.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Bidwell
It's literally a legendary pic-related, sans Ward. Maybe it left a big impact on those devs.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Thanks Blizzard matchmaking.

FastChef
FastChef

@VisualMaster
It's still going to be better than anomaly just on merit of being out one-turn earlier and being in a craft that might actually support it. Doubt it'll see any play but there're a few legendaries that can lose you games, so I'd say it's better than that.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

What does Taurus have to do with Haven? Are they trying to turn haven into another unga class? They did the same thing with dirtrune.

farquit
farquit

@Soft_member
cancer that will ruin everyone's pulls.
Kill yourself. I hope you never pull this shit no matter how many packs you buy, seiyuushitter.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Fuck you pepe.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

65121
Please concede

TreeEater
TreeEater

@BlogWobbles
he doesn't want that juicy 150/70 advantage
I rarely get those these days as a GM.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@JunkTop
Bandersnatch

@BinaryMan
It's clear that you didn't even try to look for it.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@FastChef
If you drop it on t7 it's not going to be big enough to be relevant compared to anomaly which at least threatens lethal
This is literally a mammoth that might get +1/+0 or +2/+0 some of the time

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Garbage Can Lid
Thanks Carabosse

idontknow
idontknow

@Spamalot
Bandersnatch
It's a rush 4/5, pretty well on the curve. I'm not running it for the enhance.
Though if I got lucky and it snatched an Imp Lancer, I wouldn't complain.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@farquit
implying I'm defending the pull cancer
implying I give a fuck about her JP VA
Why not try to kill me yourself you petulant shitheel, I'm not gonna do all the hard work for you.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Soft_member
where is her skirt?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@lostmypassword
Shadow
not having dead things
The issue here is you cannot keep track of the dead count unless you do it manually. Even then, he's just a 7PP fatty. I'd rather just use Tyrant and go for the 20 shadow count.

WebTool
WebTool

@Sharpcharm
How many dead followers will you have on shadow by turn 7
Maybe 8 at most

StonedTime
StonedTime

@New_Cliche
Gladly.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@JunkTop
post list

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Fuzzy_Logic
It's a better Gilgamesh for storm haven. What does he have to do with haven thematically, I don't know either.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@WebTool
Then it will be a 8/7 compared to Imperial Mammoth's 6/7. Way above curve but a literal 7PP do nothing.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@BinaryMan
The filename is the Pixiv ID. That should be enough information, newfriend.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Gigastrength
She only has the full skirt in her unevolved form. She had a smaller skirt in her 2nd and 3rd forms in RoB, but obviously we didn't get that in SV since every card only has 2 forms here.

5mileys
5mileys

@Boy_vs_Girl
@Fuzzy_Logic
He covers Eris every other week or so

hairygrape
hairygrape

My uncle works at KMR
the next Shadow Silver is a 5pp that destroys one of your own shadow followers and deals that follower's attack as damage to the enemy leader

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Booteefool
list
not dick
New to /svg/?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Ignoramus
implying "7 mana do nothing" isn't a meme

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Fuzzy_Logic
It's a better storm finisher now that Moon is obsolete in the current meta.

FastChef
FastChef

@CodeBuns
Moon will never be obsolete in my heart.

JunkTop
JunkTop

it's an user gets mad about his own assumptions about how a completely unexplained system will work episode
Is there an easier way to tell someone is just trying to shitpost when they literally have to make up something to be mad about?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@RumChicken
So it's a skull dragon without an attack requirement
Amazing

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Booteefool
It's a pretty usual carabat deck.
I farm ladder with it to recover after I have something stupid like 15x loss streaks with Daria and lose all my ranking.
Part 1 of 2 on picture.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@CodeBuns
Gilgamesh is already a thing and nobody plays it. A Gilgamesh that is better at trading won't be played either.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@MPmaster
targeted protection
relevant past turn 3
You can just kill one snake with Lyrial and you're fine anyway. Eury is a mediocre card that will never see play outside T2.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

won going second against a bloodfag thanks to Lyrial
Now I am wondering if I should keep opening ROB for her.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@JunkTop
Who are you quoting?

Methshot
Methshot

@Dreamworx
It's not. It's just a bronze card in a legendary coat.

TechHater
TechHater

@Booteefool
@RavySnake
Part 2 of 2.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@StonedTime
People use Gilgamesh now because he gets buffed by Alice. It's actually pretty dumb.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@iluvmen
That's on Neutral Lion, not on Storm Haven.

girlDog
girlDog

@RavySnake
@TechHater
nice autofill

Skullbone
Skullbone

Armor of Annihilation is actually worse than Fly King
A-at least my best buddy won't be superceded again.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@girlDog
Autofill?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Firespawn
is something wrong?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@TechHater
What is this abomination?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@CodeBuns
Moon rarely was a finisher and never was an auto-include in Storm. She was often played simply because she used to be the only non-token follower with Storm.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Poker_Star
A fairly usual Aggro Blood deck?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Methshot
That's also a meme. It's the inverse of the silver shadow legendary meme.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@RavySnake
@TechHater
ty

WebTool
WebTool

@viagrandad
hoo r u guoddingggs :DDD

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Skullbone
Flies would actually be strong if control were allowed to exist. This is literally legendary Imperial Mammoth.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Skullbone
Lord of the Flies isn't "bad", he's out of meta. I mean, he's never been in meta but that's the breaks, Shadow's support for him has been poor.

I've been playing him a lot recently and he really isn't any weaker now than he was in DE. He's still the strongest choice at 7pp for a traditional control shadow now that Eachtar has been nerfed and I haven't lost a game where he survives for a turn, but the fact of the matter is that the playstyle is a bad idea.

He could easily become a 3 of out of nowhere if he got support one day.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@RavySnake
@TechHater
D3?

5mileys
5mileys

@VisualMaster
I was A1 before I tried playing Daria and lost 2000 rank in the process.
A0 right now.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

You guys realize that the armor is a direct public apology to other classes for Eachtar right? Not that shadow getting bad legendaries is unexpected to begin with, in this case it's so comical that it's obviously intentional.

farquit
farquit

@kizzmybutt
Not with all of those singletons and 2 of's.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@PackManBrainlure
It's extremely exageratedly bad though. They could at least give it untargetable just to seem like they were trying.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@PackManBrainlure
Looks like this whole expansion is an apology then. This is not the good way to apologize by the way, like, at all.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@5mileys
iktf
the daria meme fucked my shit up hard as well

cum2soon
cum2soon

@PackManBrainlure
it's a direct public apology
I'd dread opening him if I was a non-Shadow player. Just because one craft had broken stuffs one time doesn't mean we all get to pull shits.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@PackManBrainlure
Corpselord wasn't enough of an apology?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Medusa is my beloved waifu
have to be reminded of being NTRed in granblue every single time the opponent evolves their 1 mana Perseus into a 4/4 and 1:1 trades for either version of her
Why do you do this to me, cygames?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@farquit
I didn't want to spend vials on more than on one Carabosse, as I'm pretty down on them.
As for the rest - eh.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@TechHater
This is too teched up for my ocd. Aggro should always play 3 of everything and 2 strike 2 dod

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

When will cygames learn that the most interesting legendaries are ones that have a mechanic you can literally build a deck around

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Boy_vs_Girl
Floral_fencer_cucked.jpg

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Boy_vs_Girl
At least they didn't use this Perseus art.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Gigastrength
can't even be bothered to put together a budget vapire list
Have fun staying in A0

King_Martha
King_Martha

can someone explain to me why pluto is considered a bad legendary

would it really be that bad if you were to tech 1 of her in a deck? her effect isn't bad at all

Soft_member
Soft_member

@SniperWish
I started the game a couple weeks ago m8.

Techpill
Techpill

@King_Martha
7pp

5mileys
5mileys

@King_Martha
There isn't a deck that she slots into
The only controly shadow deck that exists right now wants to keep the 7pp slot open for Khawy so Nep will always pull one
If a non nep control deck ever surfaces she might see play as a 1 or 2-of

askme
askme

@Soft_member
I had the most expensive deck in the game after 4 days when I started.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Skullbone
What a Chad

Firespawn
Firespawn

@King_Martha
Literally just a worse Odin. Should have given her the text (destroy targeted anything and gain +x/+x where X is the destroyed card's CMC)

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@SniperWish
if you want to help then post a better list or just fuck off

Illusionz
Illusionz

@King_Martha
Just play fucking Odin.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@RavySnake
try neutral lion meme
it's Daria but better!
get losing streak, aa3 to half aa2
Fuck this shit

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Dreamworx
he can't play the thinking man's deck
literally your fault

Bidwell
Bidwell

@5mileys
Oh nevermind i'm retarded
She costs 8
That's the morde slot
Also competes with odin who does way more with the only downside of not having a big body attached

Inmate
Inmate

@Ignoramus
Make me you fucking faggot

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Raving_Cute
Post dick.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@5mileys
@Techpill
Pluto is 8pp

farquit
farquit

@askme
I blew about 30k vials, that is, almost all of them, on my C.Blood deck.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@King_Martha
If you want removal with a big follower attached just play CoC
At least CoC is flexible

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@King_Martha
For what purpose would you even use her? By turn 8 you're having to deal with multiple big bodies usually and you would need evolve to do that with her. Even if you had evolves it's better to use them for Mordecai. The only time she'd be nice is against Dragon since they usually only play one thing at a time.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Raving_Cute
literally "if you draw even slightly off from perfect you lose" the deck
thinking man
bueno meme my dude

Bidwell
Bidwell

@King_Martha
this
@5mileys
@Firespawn
And this exist too.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@PackManBrainlure
if you draw even slightly off from perfect you lose
he still believes this
I'm sure you're one of those people who think it's impossible to win without drawing Daria.

Methshot
Methshot

Armor will have its own support. Something like 2pp 2/2 necromancy 8 gives an allied follower storm would work.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Firespawn
I'm sure you're one of those people who think it's impossible to win without drawing Daria.
no, my burn deck with no daria's has a better winrate

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Parallel Graves - Seems like a fun card. Number of shadows gained when used in conjuction with Haunted Mansion will be over the top
Dark Bladefiend - Can kill most traded evolves without touching them while also protecting your face
Cursed Loyalty - Seems good for Nep
Sora, Martial Artist - Just a 3PP vanilla 2/3. That's what she will be most of the time
Lute, Leonardian Necromancer - 8PP do something that is not a wincon
Andrealphus - Grossly overhyped
Armor of Annihilation - Not even meme-worthy
Guess we will just wait for catacomb later in the last 6 cards.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Methshot
Just wait 1 more turn and use fucking Tyrant Minthe

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Methshot
I'd rather use that with Pluto to kill Baha and have a 13/13 storm.

idontknow
idontknow

@Firespawn
where X is the destroyed card's CMC
cmc?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Forest's second lego will save the craft screencap this

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@CouchChiller
Between bladefiend, graves, and musician this expansion already looks pretty good for Shadow.

Inmate
Inmate

@idontknow
converted mana cost
it's a mtg term since mtg has colours as well as colourless in the card costs (2R is 2 of anything + 1 red but would have a CMC of 3 for example)

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

give Rune a potentially great Control deck wincon
it's not for Dirt
What the fuck, Cygames?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@King_Martha
Honestly I can imagine a meta where she'd be useful, but as it so happens, we're not in that meta.

Traditional control Shadow is shit right now and that's the only kind of deck she could fit into. Even if the deck were viable, you'd need to be in a meta where Odin isn't better, you aren't just better off using Pact, and you have space to slot her in over other options.

This isn't impossible, but odds are poor that it'll happen. I don't auto-vial her since there might be a day when shadow has the tools to deal with low aggro and Bahamut is common enough that Pluto has a target, but that day isn't today. There isn't any good reason to run her in this meta.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@LuckyDusty
I wonder if they'll ever combine Dirt with spellboost somehow someday.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@haveahappyday
musician
I'm not too keen about playing 2PP goblins, let alone one at 3PP.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@LuckyDusty
makes 2 lego per craft
instead of supporting more deck archetypes just prints shitty unplayable legos
And there's people who will defend this.

Nojokur
Nojokur

When will we get fire, water or some other type of Rune archetype besides Earth?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@PackManBrainlure
But Chimera makes a deck of her own.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@PackManBrainlure
Even those people are probably hard pressed at this point. It's pretty clear many of the SL legends could have been golds, or even silvers. Hell if this were ToG that Shadow legend WOULD have been a silver.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@PackManBrainlure
The thing is she's never been useful. Midrange decks have been strong since the start of the game and they're all about flooding the board in which case she's useless. Unless they start doing rotations she'll probably never be good.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Nojokur
all the other elements are spread out among normal rune cards

FastChef
FastChef

wtf cygames why do you keep powercreeping this game
wtf cygames these legos are silver tier

Makes you think

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@5mileys
The only controly shadow deck that exists right now wants to keep the 7pp slot open for Khawy so Nep will always pull one
It's a spell, m8. Nep won't pull spells.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Deadlyinx
just craft silvers. open packs primarily for legos or if they have a ton of golds you want.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Crazy_Nice
3 is the lowest-impact turn in the game. If you're going to play something understatted for value, then you want to play it on 3.

askme
askme

@FastChef
I hate f2parasites, they fucking complain about everything

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Spazyfool
Pluto is not a spell
Pact is a spell, but that's not what we're talking about

TreeEater
TreeEater

/vg/thread/189198101#p189198101
/vg/thread/189198101#p189198101
/vg/thread/189198101#p189198101

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

What am I even saving up Rupies for if the new cards aren't going to be better than the current ones?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Fuzzy_Logic
Gives you some reach and potentially helps save your evo for your aegis turn

Evilember
Evilember

@Snarelure
It's animated though. Either I keep opening or spend 2 globes to get an animated playset.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@TalkBomber
So you get 3 fairy princess leader that you can't vial.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Sir_Gallonhead
a control shadow that can drop do nothings should just be dropping morde. you can't play the kind of grinder deck that fly might fit in because everyone has hard wincons (and with this expansion asstons of draw). khawy is usually going to be better in control shadow because it helps delay until your win condition.

also rng makes cards bad unless their effect is broken, which fly's is not

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Boy_vs_Girl
waifu
Fuck off pedo, all you care about is the wee lasses arse

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Evilember
i'd finish my collection before trying to get animated sets of all the silvers i like but you do you

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@CodeBuns
@Sharpcharm
cute boydog

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@CodeBuns
@Sharpcharm
have those pictures with chained up cerb? that actually makes me wonder: did virgin soul trigger a lot of bondage porn of cygames demons?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

What's the difference between this and hearthstone? Genuine question, im kinda interested in the game

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Boy_vs_Girl
The cards artwork don't look like ass.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Boy_vs_Girl
It's way more f2p friendly and generous than hearthstone. i've never felt pressured to buy anything with how much free shit they throw at you here

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Boy_vs_Girl
The lore is shit.
But thats okay because the game doesn't want it to be good lore.
Hearthstone seems to want me to jerk off blizzards hard-on for their "epic" lore

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