Give me your most esoteric and controversial thoughts and opinions

Give me your most esoteric and controversial thoughts and opinions.

There is no God but God, and Muhammad is his messenger

The polytheists were right all along

Life and existence is pointless because everybody will die one day and the universe will eventually end in a heat death.

Humans weren't meant to live in current western society.

man lives to short to know how old he is, we are all that were before us, nothing we are is ours, we carry it like a lended burden, we never die or are born, we merely occur as all things do, there is no way out, there is no release

Dugin is right.

He said controversial not average modern degenerate

There is a small academic conspiracy to try to "establish" Zoroastrianism as the first monotheistic faith. They primarily do this by quoting some 3rd-12th century AD documents, noting linguistic oddities that point to some extremely old composition of the Avestas (10th-15th century B.C), and then claim it was unchanged and uninfluenced from that entire time, which would be laughed out of the room for any other religion but gets taken semi-seriously when it's about Zoroastrianism.

most ebul dictators are well intentioned people who find themselves in a bad situations where they have to take extreme measures and surround themselves with yes men who genuinely convince them their policies are helping the populace keep the more extremely egregious abuses of their regimes hidden from them

(except in sub Saharan Africa)

There is only one God, his son is the Christ and whosoever believes upon him shall have everlasting life.

Yes, and only the chosen Æutists of God get to be in his presence and line up things neatly forever!

Quantum mechanics is going to prove Merleau-Ponty's Phenomenology right

Atheist are secret followers of Athei who killed all other gods and than killed himself.

human civilization is simply a stepping stone in an immanent process of intelligence exponentiation towards something well beyond our understanding of scale
we're part of the couple human generations that are witnessing this extreme transitional process
tldr: Techno singularity will be habbening soon

OR
Spengler is right and human history is truly cyclical and mostly defined by cultural expression, with the west destined to a slow entropy into a static global civilization/empire (in the Spenglerian sense)

tldr: Cyberpunk with a twist will be habenning

happiness is in reality a state of confusion. the nature of all that is is to want. those who profess happiness are, in truth, simply broken enough to lie.

I have more if you want.

All men are born equal, but some are born more equal than others.

Thus equality is a petty abstract, and thus freedom must be pursued, as it gives the illusion of equality.

I actually like that a lot.

We _are_ animals. Our actions are controlled predominantly by instincts, it's just that we don't call them that, we call them feelings. We don't realize they are instincts, but they are. This has some interesting implications, such as:
When you feel what we call love for someone of the opposite gender with all the stupid romantics and so on, it's not fundamentally different from the bull wanting to mount a female.
All the ideas and observations about implicit hierarchy in groups of animals apply equally to human interaction in groups. You think the weak wolf spends his time pondering about how he's the lowest member of the pack? No, he doesn't even realize the mechanisms at work. The humans who hang out on Veeky Forums and don't go out and are terribly socially do so because they are on the receiving end of the exact same mechanisms. The members of a group realize who the weakest individuals are, and systematically abuse/bully them to keep them in their place, the same way the strongest cows bully the weaker ones away from the hay tray.

Mankind can overcome and achieve both material safety for all members of the species as well as stave off total ecological collapse, and from there somehow defeat heat death of the universe.

Modern humanity has forgotten the question of Being.

Everything will be okay.

>meant to
spooky

"Mental illness" does not exist. It is nothing but the system's excuse to impose authority on people whose ideas and will we cannot tolerate. Denying certain people the possibility of suicide and proclaiming that desire an illness is nothing but tyrrany and insult.

I think the holocaust never happened, all these deadly diseases sprang up after the discovery of genetic engineering, and that jet fuel cant melt steel. But none of that is controversial.

I also think that the vast majority of people's lives contain no new physical information and are merely repetitions of some simple stereotype.

Ultimate good god is Lucifer. God is the actual ultimate evil and shilling against Lucifer, who is the only one care about humans.

>implying an ultimate good god would create this planet, food chain, and suffering.
>implying an ultimate good god would ask his livings to worship and beg him non stop.
>m-muh ultimate test
>t-tips fedora

its worse than you think, your perception of it is superficial, its way deeper than that, all living systems are conditioned to a fault and occur in patterns, they are, we are, these re-occuring patterns, in thought word and action, in every way and on every level, we dont even have a special place in the story to say that ''we are animals'', in this context the human does not exist

Nobody deserves to be homeless.
Nobody deserves to go hungry.
Nobody deserves to be poor.

I think that the world is the best it has ever been right now, and it's only getting better.

I also think that the overwhelming majority of people are good people.

I love you all.
I love every living being. I love every atom which exists, have existed and will exist in this Universe.

Life is pointless, mind is pointless, existence is pointless, death is pointless. But you can believe in whatever you want because you are all infinite; your imagination is this Universe.

So be happy, take a walk in the street, watch the Sun shining over you. Pat an animal, say your parents you love them. Cry. Laugh. Scream. Cum. Enjoy. Sit down, eat an apple, and taste it in your mouth as if it was the only fucking food you've taken in your whole lives.

You are all important. I can't simply stand all the love I feel for all of you.

Women can't do anything wrong, the blame lies in either her fathers, husbands or pimps.

Elizabeth Nietzsche single-handedly shaped 20th century ideology and was solely responsible for the decline of philosophy's popularity.

The underlying fabric of reality must be God. It is also called Buddha-nature, or Tao.
Jesus, like a Taoist immortal, came to an understanding of reality which allowed him to become one with God, and therefore the world. He re-materialized to his identity to teach others the path to enlightenment.

The hardest, but most rewarding pill to swallow

I mean, this is heresy, but the concept sounds cool; a lot like CHIM in TES series and the more esoteric sayings of Vivec.

Despite having a large interest in the past, there's no time I'd rather be living in than the now.

>"Mental illness" does not exist.
go volunteer at your local mental hospital for a month and see if you still believe that.

Jesus still is the son of God and God, in that he's the shadow body sent down by the Cosmic body, the Father, to redeem man. The remaining body is of course the Dharma body, which I've already explained.
To correspond with the three bodies of God, there are three ways of liberation. One is through an understanding of reality, which is the highest and most difficult form. The second is through good merit through just thoughts and actions in accordance with the will of The Father. The last form is through faith in Jesus Christ for salvation.

People are their best under authoritarian rule.
Poor people are happier.

The sexual liberation movement is ruining society

All men have nearly identical potential to achieve, yet for some reason only a few ever reach it.

Those few deserve all the power they obtain and have a natural right to rule over society.

This image always looks like a pretty young maiden from the thumbnail, fuck.

There is a "god", but it's a triumvirate of fundamentally inhuman things. There's Structure (this can be likened to something akin to the Tao) which allows the universe to be more than chaos; there's Chance which allows there to be disorder enough in the universe to prevent it from being stagnant (this can be observed in quantum events), and finally there is the universe itself, which is all things at all times. Our patterns of moral behavior are (aside from the role of empathic or social morality) our attempts to bring these three into order so that our interactions with them will be peaceable and prosperous.

This tb h.
Its pretty controversial here in Veeky Forums

except those people dont rule society

I love you too, user, I really do. Our mindsets are exactly the same and it makes me so fucking happy to see people like you.

All those religion and people claiming to tell you what God has spoken is bullshit. If God were ever to communicate with man, his finite mind can barely understand his message let alone using his flawed mouth and language to successfully communicate what God said.

If God were to ever speak to you, it is meant for your ears not your mouth. Only symbols and abstractions are the closest thing we have to understanding God

sounds like logical positivism


Love you too bro


Let's go get some tea

We are love, we are life, we are light, we are all and all is I. I am God, I am creation, I am.

that escalated quickly bro wtf

I am a fish.

It is my view of everything being of itself. I am not a God, I am God, and so are you.

I'll just dump the whole thing:
I am; those are the most important words to understand and hone. Our hearts beat, "I am, I am, I am". It is what defines us, and we define it. As we shift and rumble by, aloof and arrogant, we forget the simple and fantastic beauty of our very existence. Every breath we take was once the breath of another, the flesh that clothes our borrowed bones once flourished in form of eyecandy from the muck of transition (flowers in dirt), our consciousness is a mirror so that we may gaze upon ourselves in our own humble form. We are beauty, we are life, we are light, we are all and all is I. I am God, I am creation. I am.

...

>concept of self
>gradual transition of different organics into other organics


I'm faltering on the third point however, please explain it better to me

Our consciousness if a mirror of what?

Life actually has ''purpose'' due to causality and sense. From the smallest to the largest of phenomenological occurrences comes instant result; thus, this to us projects meaning. The supposed lack of meaning only stems from previous belief in metaphysical linear history with an end goal. The replacement of this with the negation of any ''sense to it all'' is simply that, a replacement, which still serves the same purpose of making sense by denying that there is any..

Consciousness is a method of observation, a way to experience the beauty of life. It's basically like holding a mirror up to the ocean and saying, "You are fucking amazing. Your endless balter, your whispers and sighs, I love you."
It's a bit hard to explain. We are the universe, but consciousness is just a way to realize that.

Sounds like a god worthy of worship teebeehach famalama

The weak and poor should be weak and poor

How has love been put in such a position to be viewed as corny, meaningless, and gay? All I ever want to do is love people but you know, "that's fucking gay."

Clarify

Isn't that just luciferianism?

Heritage is a spook.
Ethnic identity is a spook.
Racial identity is a spook.
Anything that leads you to take credit for the accomplishments of the dead, is a spook.
Multiculturalism is undesirable because it creates unnecessary division between the citizens of a nation.
There should be one world language, with all other languages being abolished except for the purposes of translation.
All ideologies are fundamentally wrong because they force you to accept ideas whole-sale without any kind of nuance or the ability to adapt to changing contexts.
Tribalism is humanity's worst enemy, though it was once useful for survival.
We're living in the most peaceful time in history.
Humanity should be striving as much as possible towards immortality. Criticisms of immortality are just sour grapes and a way to come to grips with the fear of death.
Backwards time travel is impossible and will always be impossible.
Objective and subjective morality are both wrong and are a false dichotomy.
The "self" is not a uniform individual or a soul, but rather a conflicting mesh of biological interests.
The concept of "justice" has been romanticized to an unhealthy degree and has led to a fundamental flaw in the application of law.
A mixture between capitalism and socialism is best, it's just a matter of balancing them properly.

>The concept of "justice" has been romanticized to an unhealthy degree and has led to a fundamental flaw in the application of law.
explain further

The Reformation was necessary, inevitable, and a net force for good.

It's too focused on punishment and not enough on results and societal benefits.

Is it? I dont know

How old are you? Serious question.

I don't think anyone can really disagree with this

You, yourself got absolutely no influence on politics. Your vote is only one single and instad what memes say, your vote doesn't matter unless you arent living in a 10000 population country or some shit. Your(talking about "you", as a person) tools got absolutely no effect on elite's tools, not even mentioning media. Everything is planned, and you got no influence at any of them. So there is no point at worrying over politics, you can't change anything unless you are a politcian or a billionare. You can just watch and enjoy memes if you like political memes.

>b-but x guy/y group is """changing""" elite's agenda!!!
yeah, im talking about you. they would exist without you either.

pic somewhat related

Instead of 1984, pic related is the ultimate agenta of kikes, elites or whatever you call them. And it's a great utopia. Hope it happens.

>tfw no soma

>controversial
it's commonly said that 1984 = left-wing dictatorships, while BNW = right-wing dictatorships

the human races are the same species but they're different

Todays left wing dictatorships are aiming BNW utopia too. Left wing isn't USSR left wing anymore if we dont count NK

Literally nobody has ever said this. Also 1984 was written by a social democrat

>1984 = left-wing dictatorships
George Orwell would want to punch you in the face, it's about authoritarian dictatorship, left and right, plain and simple.

We are greater.
Can a cheetah run faster than a sports car?
Can a monkey compose a sonnet?
Can a hawk fly to the moon?
Can an animal create culture?

We are more than simple animals, much more. In less than 50 years we have changed this planet more than any living thing in its ecosystem. People like you baffle me.

24. Do you have a real question that isn't based in cliche?

Just look at the life of Chris Chan as a counterargument for that

Do you have any real opinions not based on cliches?

Some opinions are simply wrong, and have no purpose existing in a modern society. You can't simply claim free speech if you are fucking retarded

>Some opinions are simply wrong
According to who?

Oh, deflection, that's a pretty big cliche.

You're very boring. Can't offer up any substance but you still think you're superior.

There was no implication of superiority. But this reaction reveals more about your insecure personality.

>Objective and subjective morality are both wrong and are a false dichotomy.

If I say killing someone who I loved who has done you no wrong makes you a destructive and unpredictable force in society and is in everyone's best interest to be isolated from how am I wrong?

>There was no implication of superiority

Oh please, ageism is the definition of implied superiority.

Again, you have no substance. This is Veeky Forums, not /b/. Until you give me substance I'm not going to bother with you. Give me a real criticism based on real thought, something constructive.

I don't see what you *want* from me. I just wanted to see how old you were as to better understand.

technological progress and prosperity are cancers to the earth and nations should not have come this far

also, every nation should be homogeneous and deportations are okay with me to make that possible

I agree with this list unironically.

ultimate focus of humanity should find a way of biological immortality/anti aging.

>but what about population control
simple, neuter the "cured" ones

>technological progress and prosperity are cancers to the earth and nations should not have come this far
Explain

technology has only harmed nature and made humanity too self reliant on little machines
basically all i mean is that prosperity and progress are not some absolute good to be strived for
whether it improves human quality of life doesn't matter to me

Western civilisation has terminal cancer. Not in some loose metaphorical sense; civilisations ars literally organisms, and ours literally has cancer. The best thing would be for us to go under as quickly as possible before our self-destructive tendencies metastise worldwide.

I would object to your personal bias in the matter, and I would object to your assumption about the character of the murderer and how much or how little impact they would have on society. I think that would require a much more in-depth analysis. It could be that the murderer would not a commit another crime in their life, it could be they're a serial killer who would go on to slaughter 30 more people. It could be that the latter could turn into the former given the right circumstances, it could be that they have no hope of recovery.

As far as the objective vs subjective morality argument goes, I just think it's too based on extremes. Either there's an objective unchanging universal set of morals that must always be obeyed, or everything is fair game and it's all just subjective/cultural. I don't fall into either of those categories, and honestly I doubt most people do either. I think context matters, and that we should be ready to update our morals as we gain new information, but I also think that some cultures have better results than others, and that those better results are desirable.

>technology has only harmed nature
It also has the potential to repair it and more
>made humanity too self reliant on little machines
This evens out. It everyone has access to the same resources( I assume you are thinking os smartphones, the internet etc.),the most capable will still prevail.

Jews are the sons of the devil

*are, not ars

>tfw you spend ages rewording and checking your post, then make one last-minute edit and a typo creeps in

First post best post.

Our sun will not support life on Earth indefinitely, and Gaia is not about to set up a space program, other that through humans and technology

Where to begin? Most of the basic ideals that we have are wrong in my opinion.

I think:
>christians are essentially an apocalyptic cuck cult
>muslims are essentially an apocalyptic death cult
>jesus was just a failed muhammed
>muhammed was a psychotic warlord (as in literally insane)
>most religions (everything non-mainstream) should be banned as cults
>mainstream religions should have all their tax breaks and privileges taken away from them
>people should be educated in school about the falsity and harm of religion
>it should be socially acceptable to ridicule and hate religion and the religious, just as it is acceptable to hate rapists

I also think:
>all marriages should be arranged
>monogamy should be abolished
>when people hit puberty everyone should have their virginity taken within a month or two (by force if necessary and by both sexes)
>some people are just stupid and can't be educated (math/science/etc) so we shouldn't bother
>mercy has no place in the justice system
>the death penalty is acceptable for some crimes and the guillotine should be used
>sky ferreira > cara delevigne
>the harm principle is the only ethical imperative

And finally:
>many nations are fake (e.g. FYROM, Israel, China)
>the continued u.s. occupation of hawaii is illegal

People like him usually have done nothing in their lives or are disappointed with themselves so they feel the need to bring down humanity as a whole in order to equalize their percieved shittiness.

>I would object to your personal bias in the matter
Is my bias not my own personal, subjective truth as your own tendency to moderacy is yours?>I would object to your assumption about the character of the murderer and how much or how little impact they would have on society
If a man ends the consciousness of another, who has done him no wrong, and who he has nothing to gain from by killing, does this not make the man irrational and prone to disruption of all societies made by order, social or otherwise? Can you provide a situation where he is not?

>As far as the objective vs subjective morality argument goes, I just think it's too based on extremes. Either there's an objective unchanging universal set of morals that must always be obeyed, or everything is fair game and it's all just subjective/cultural. I don't fall into either of those categories, and honestly I doubt most people do either.

Is this not your own personal truth? Could someone not come to a radically different conclusion with a series of objective, unchanging morals or subjective ones? Is your assumption of "most people" agreeing with you not founded on personal preference?