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StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

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Report and ignore it.

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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, 12th of October:
1960 – Cold War: Nikita Khrushchev pounds his shoe on a desk at United Nations General Assembly meeting to protest a Philippine assertion of Soviet Union colonial policy being conducted in Eastern Europe.
1960 – Television viewers in Japan unexpectedly witness the assassination of Inejiro Asanuma, leader of the Japan Socialist Party, when he is stabbed to death during a live broadcast.
1963 – After nearly 23 years of imprisonment, Reverend Walter Ciszek, a Jesuit missionary, was released from the Soviet Union.
1964 – The Soviet Union launches the Voskhod 1 into Earth orbit as the first spacecraft with a multi-person crew and the first flight without space suits.

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Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting

FastChef
FastChef

business idea: Nomadic Ireland. thoughts?

idontknow
idontknow

G&T 0.2 - https://mega.nz/#!okc0HJBC!bZ0KofNQYiSCeGuVBXEd71yozNokMcNqVcUsnLdTwmM
tl;dr of changes for this patch - complete rework of how institutions function to make them more realistic, plus unique "Ottoman Empire" versions of every Beylik that is not the Ottomans themselves, along with some other rebalance for Anatolia. Next few minor patches will be dedicated to further rebalance and flavor for that region

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@FastChef
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Travellers

eGremlin
eGremlin

@FastChef
t. Miled.

Booteefool
Booteefool

business idea:UNITED IRELAND TAL32 ERIN GO BRAGH. thoughts?

iluvmen
iluvmen

tfw may have to wait until the end of the month for new HPm

God it's like every time I want to play grand strategy life kicks that interest in the balls.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@iluvmen
And I look up to the OP and see it actually just updated, wew lads

MPmaster
MPmaster

@iluvmen
dumb fucking faggot get it on moddb

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Booteefool

@iluvmen
You know there are other mods and other gsg games, right?

RavySnake
RavySnake

Reminder to shitpost and yeehaw La Plata posting

Evilember
Evilember

xth for white and based

FastChef
FastChef

yeehaw

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Since EUIV was suggested last thread, I think I WILL convert my Reddit Hugbox playthrough to EUIV once I make it to the end date. I'm curious to see what the world looks like in EUIV if basically all the cultures and religions from 769 start are preserved, strengthened, and united. Like, how the fuck does it treat all the East Slavs who blend into Russian if they stay un-mixed? (Severians, Ilemnians, etc.)

WebTool
WebTool

@idontknow
That coring unrest change sounds like a terrible idea. It takes time for province distance to calculate and money, monarch points, and savegame bloat if you want to do it manually. If the coring time is 20 years and the AI has to wait 5 years to even begin coring, that's at least 5 years of high unrest and no profitable gain for the province, then 20 years of no building construction or other improvements which could help to bring the province into the central administration more effectively. This again just sounds like a ham-fisted nerf to blobs which encourages situations like interior Europe with relatively small national states rather than large multi-ethnic federations like Russia, the Ottomans, or even many Indian states. Hell, this will fuck colonies over too, and they don't even have a choice in the distance of the land their overlord gives them. You're at least sentencing certain colonies in shit terrain, like Peru or Mexico, to unending spirals of overextension.

I also think HRE member states should only get institution spread in their capitals if Reichsreform and Reichsregiment is passed, since reasonably the HRE would need to be semi-centralized for any benefits to trickle down like that.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@whereismyname
anti-irish terrorists
this is what the RIC actually believes in
jesus christ

TreeEater
TreeEater

Aux armes citoyens

SniperGod
SniperGod

Why does this province have 95% farming efficiency

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Sir_Gallonhead
aren't you just going to face constant revolts? and how are you going to reach the slavs before they culture swap

takes2long
takes2long

@TreeEater
L'internationale sera le genre humain...

whereismyname
whereismyname

@SniperGod
probably a glitch

massdebater
massdebater

yeehaw

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

waheey

SniperGod
SniperGod

oi oi

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Deadlyinx
Part of the fun of the challenge will be keeping everyone in line and civilizing all the tribal and nomadic fuckers. I guess I'll start as Byzantium and make a beeline for Slav land, which will have the added benefit of making for an easy early reformation on their part.

Surprisingly, in my last Byzantium playthrough, the Slavs were relatively docile. As long as I kept my eye on revolt risk, and educated my heirs in Diplomacy, gaving them lots of good virtues via the "Teach Virtue" option from the monastic order societies, the whole realm was pretty stable. It helped to have loyal viceroy kings. Carousing focus lets you make friends so I just befriended them all, made sure I played a virtuous person, and everyone was pretty happy.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@iluvmen
what about Jain vassal opinion bonus + picking your heir

likme
likme

@WebTool
It takes time for province distance to calculate and money, monarch points, and savegame bloat if you want to do it manually.
Actually that's exactly why I did it - with the province requiring 0 unrest before it is corable you can just spam the savegame bloat and pull an exploit where you pause the game before the modifiers are re-applied to the province, giving you no unrest to all of your province and therefor making all of them corable as soon as they're conquered. This change is intended to not force you to exploit like that and directly give you the ability to core them after Martial Law expires, at the expense of having to core them for twice longer (which is supposed to simulate you wasting time to reduce unrest)

And as for anything else you said, no, I actually ran a full campaign before releasing this and neither I nor the AIs had any problem expanding, but I as a player didn't have to spam exploits and bloat my save so I took it as a net positive. Also, removing the ability to core Terrible CE provinces is not a "ham-fisted nerf to blobs", it's actually quite realistic.

If any huge issue arises from any of those changes I'll just change it through a hotfix so don't worry about that either, just make sure to report it so I can examine it

TreeEater
TreeEater

@iluvmen
Teach Virtue and Give Spiritual Advice were great to use on my viceroys too, because sharing virtues makes people like you more and less likely to start shit. When there WERE rebellions, from peasants or heretics for example, the viceroys squashed them pretty well by themselves.

FastChef
FastChef

@ZeroReborn
I had not considered this. Kust looked it up, and it looks fantastic. Thank you for the suggestion.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@idontknow
someone do one for the HPM released today pls

girlDog
girlDog

@happy_sad
the only acceptable way to play V2 nowadays is with CWE

Lunatick
Lunatick

*farts*

Playboyize
Playboyize

I know I said before I didn't have much else to talk about, but I want to reopen the discussion I mentioned /vg/thread/192053390#p192061995 about nerfing major and unrealistically stable blobs in the AAR. Two threads back a few user brought up that the AI won't have the same penalties to expansionism that I'm giving myself, and we're quite likely to see either a Karling blob, Umayyad blob, or Abbasid blob in the game, not to mention what may eventually happen with the Seljuks or Mongols.

I absolutely don't want to prevent large realms from forming or from their being powerful and stable, but it should be difficult and there certainly should be challenges to it. I proposed two potential ways to resolve this which I would be willing to try, and I'm interested in feedback for the potential solutions.

The first option would be to do for the AI what I'm doing for myself, namely to narratively construct challenges for them. This could include, for example, forcing a bastard son of the Holy Roman Emperor to invade for his father's title, and simultaneously manually launching an independence rebellion for the HRE's far-flung vassalage. I could then turn to the situation in the HRE and explain what had happened, and perhaps even directly involve myself in the situation in some way. This would not create a death sentence for these large realms--they could still come out on top--but if they're seemingly too stable and facing too little threat as-is, these manual interventions can challenge them and give other realms opportunities to pounce.

The second option is a reconstruction of a project I began a long time ago to rebalance all traits, modifying the skill bonuses and nerfs they provide and, most importantly, changing opinion modifiers so characters with conflicting traits dislike each other much more. This encourages times of extreme stability as much as instability, which jacks up variance and makes "problem vassals" much more persistent a threat.

Which option sounds better to test?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Traditional thread for traditional people:
/vg/thread/192144928#p192144928

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@TalkBomber
for what purpose

farquit
farquit

yeehaw ឴ ឴

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@TalkBomber
I beg you not to do this thread wars bullshit, its autism is too powerful

likme
likme

@Gigastrength
Autism is our strength

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@TalkBomber
imagine caring about this

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Crazy_Nice
*imagines*

DeathDog
DeathDog

This thread has been pruned or deleted
Bless up Janny

RavySnake
RavySnake

Can someone explain "yeehaw?" Does it have anything to do with grand strategy?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

yeehaw

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Playboyize
I like thebidea of narrative AI actions. Go for it.

FastChef
FastChef

ded

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

yeehaw

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Emberburn
I think I'll see how well the AI can handle certain threats being arrayed against them when I do the test, but I'm still wondering whether I should see if the trait changes can do it on their own. I'll test both, I think, to see. Worst-case I can just manually press on over-mighty blobs.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Garbage Can Lid
white men

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Ummmm... h*Wite """people""" are not human ok??
tfw no option to genocide white people in HPM

Inmate
Inmate

@Bidwell
white men

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Evil_kitten
That shitlord must be a fucking neo-nazi

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@cum2soon
agree comrade can't wait until he removes fascism

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

бeлыe люди

Firespawn
Firespawn

бeлapycь

JunkTop
JunkTop

what is best way to convert CKII saves?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Mr. Grandi?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@JunkTop
-right click
-click delete
-when asked if you're sure, select "yes"

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

is there a mod for vicky 2 which makes the late game sphere spamming less cancer?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

*shitposts*

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Nojokur
thats a bad idea because if u put a lot of hours into it u only waste it

hairygrape
hairygrape

Based shitposter

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

can't get the provinces file to work grrrrrr....

eGremlin
eGremlin

@AwesomeTucker
Бeли љyди.

eGremlin
eGremlin

سپین سړي

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Here is a question: will HoI4 ever be good?

My vote goes to no.

eGremlin
eGremlin

tsagaan erchüüd

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

PARADOCS IS THE GREADESD DEVELOBER TO EBER EXIST :DDDD I AM GLAD THEY MADE GOOD GAME LIKE HOI4

Soft_member
Soft_member

hvide mænd

likme
likme

@Sir_Gallonhead

No.

That said it's better than Stellaris and Eu iv imo

RumChicken
RumChicken

@SniperGod
Superior Inca terrace farms obviously

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

IS this general officially reddit now, gentlemans?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Nude_Bikergirl
I WISH THEY WOULD MAKE DLC TWICE AS FAST SO I CAN GIVE THEM MORE OF MY MONEY

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@likme
I didnt even buy Stellaris - it looked like pure shit from the very beginning.

Eh, modded EU4 easily beats it and even vanilla EU4 has more things to do and stuff going on in general.

All i wanted from HoI4 was HoI3 which didnt crash.

Lunatick
Lunatick

wit mans

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Deadlyinx
buy

hairygrape
hairygrape

but really how do i convert ckii game good without fucking up game with shit parakike converter

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

hvítar menn

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

is stellaris grand strategy yet

happy_sad
happy_sad

@hairygrape
convert ckii game good
user, some miracles are beyond even god.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@happy_sad
but i dont care if its still shit just what is the best option available 2 me

Emberfire
Emberfire

homens brancos

Snarelure
Snarelure

@hairygrape
do it manually you lazy shit

WebTool
WebTool

@Snarelure
but how do i do that?
are there any tutorials to show me or some shit im not familiar with how parakike shit works

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

albis hominibus

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@StrangeWizard
Playing a Krakow to Commonwealth game in the last version of HPM. Its 1879 and I have everything I need from Russia. Germany is a fucking monster though in this game and even though I'm allied with France, France won't join any invasion of Germany because Germany is allied with Great Britain. Not that that possibly would even matter considering France for some reason in this game has stationed all of its forces outside of Europe (they have like 60,000 troops in fucking French Guyana but only 50,000 on the mainland). Austria Hungary is useless as an ally since I was forced to neuter them to form Poland. Whats the best strategy for dealing with Germany at this point? It will probably take two wars to take both Konigsberg (needed for the PLC decision) and the three states I have cores on, but at this point even with the ~5th largest army in the game I haven't had much luck trying to take on Germany alone.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@PurpleCharger
There is no way, and if you dare to get into a great war with them, prepare to be dismantled.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

וייַס מענטשן

SniperWish
SniperWish

@PurpleCharger
Build only Artillery, Engineers and Cavalry.
Mobilize and merge your peasants with your arty to make proper armies.
Camp behind rivers and try to get good defense generals

Bidwell
Bidwell

yeehaw

Booteefool
Booteefool

người đàn ông da trắng

Snarelure
Snarelure

we traded one oppressive autocratic general for another

will we ever truly be free?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Booteefool
and nip nong bing bong to you too sir

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Supergrass
Weißer Mann

FastChef
FastChef

yeehaw

Supergrass
Supergrass

Are there any mods with the Division system of BICE but without all the bloat??
I cannot play HoI without that godly system desu but the rest of the mod is pretty crappy

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Supergrass
Which HoI? 3 right?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@PackManBrainlure
Yes
I haven't played HoI4 since the day it got released, is it any better now?

Playboyize
Playboyize

սպիտակ տղամարդիկ

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

there are people out there who unironically think EU4 is a bad game
there are people out there who unironically think CKII is a bad game
there are people out there who unironically think HOI4 is a bad game (it is)
poor fags and NEETs are unable to pay for DLC so they think its shit
Friendly reminder that EU4 is the most successful of any Paradox game and is the best GSG known to man.
People who think EU3 is better should kill themselves desu
Also Vic2 is a shit game that only retards with poor as fuck tastes play.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Sir_Gallonhead
on how many levels of ironic shitposting are you?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Booteefool
is it any better now?
I suppose in some sense but not really.
Its like if you found a rusted broken old car in a scrapyard and then polished the doors. Sure, your doors look nice now but the car still doesnt work and the rest of it is still shit.

To answer your original question, i wish i knew. BICE makes so many improvements but it also (nearly breaks the game with bugs) adds so much stupid crap and slows the game to a crawl (when it does work)

JunkTop
JunkTop

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^*3
I know this is bait but kill yourself anyways

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@PackManBrainlure
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
why?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Sir_Gallonhead
tfw want to reply to bait
Im terrible for replying to what i know is bait - my autism just compels me to argue with people.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Gigastrength
your like reddit babby...

farquit
farquit

GOAT Balkan borders
Prove Me wrong

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Sir_Gallonhead
Veeky Forums has always been this way. they are the biggest collection of hipsters on the internet. they can't like anything that's popular. Think of the level of autism it took to quit playing EU4....learn a whole new game.... that has the learning curve of 100 plus hours...just because EU had become to popular...

DeathDog
DeathDog

@farquit
best balkans are no balkans tbqh

Methshot
Methshot

Which EU4 achievements should I try to get for my next game?
Last game was a Papal States run.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Sir_Gallonhead
Friendly reminder that EU4 is the most successful of any Paradox game and is the best GSG known to man.

I had a good laugh at first.

girlDog
girlDog

OH NO I CANT AFFORD 200 DOLLARS OF DLC HOW CAN I PROPERLY PLAY MY GAME
Here's a tip, just fucking pirate it, better yet kill yourself

alL of you faggots are dumb rocks who roll about in the funniest irony possible, as well ppl out there who think their poopy old man games are good, only hidden as such by the crimson lens of rose tinted nostalgia

@whereismyname
Call it bait but you know its 100 fucking percent true. Prove a single one of my points wrong, excluding the HOI4 part, because desu its a steaming pile of unrepentant dog shit

@New_Cliche
It is, do you have any data to prove me wrong, the only game that comes close is Stellaris in current profits for Paradox, but its not really a GSG now is it??

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Can we just talk about video games and not shitpost the thread to death.

WebTool
WebTool

@Methshot
It's All Greek To Me

5mileys
5mileys

@SomethingNew
interrupts video game discussion by telling people to talk about video games

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@SomethingNew
Not with these tards in the thread.
@5mileys
it was actual video discussion, majority of thread not even discuess games or genre as whole??????

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Boy_vs_Girl
what's with ESL posters and adding too much punctuation?
currently we're talking about different grand strategy games and how hoi4 is shit and so is eu4

idontknow
idontknow

THE ONLY GOOD G*RM IS A DEAD G*RM
alLah PBUH will guide the germans to a civlization that those stick wielding caveman microbes never had. maybe for once they not destroy the west or europe every hundred years like typical snownogs

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

So finally decided to take the plunge into HoI3, what's the most newfag-friendly country?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@viagrandad
lol shit tastes i bet you actually like eu3 (trash game)

Snarelure
Snarelure

@StrangeWizard
hoi4, eu4 and eu3 are all shit
vicky 2, hoi3. dh are all good

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Carnalpleasure
Germany.

Really, there is no easier nation. You're definitely going to lose the first time but you should keep going while losing to learn from it. Also maybe watch some guys playthrough of Germany or something to get a feel for what to do.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Snarelure
whoa whoa, why are we clumping in the fucking worst game of all paradox, vicky 2? why do vicky fags insist their piece of NEVER BEFORE TOUCHED trash is any good?
hoi3 is good, DH good, but seriously, vicky 2 fans are basically the worst of the worse.
Fun fact: Its arguably the least fun game made by Paradox, let alone any GSG game for that matter

Nojokur
Nojokur

There is no mod but HPM and Alex Grandi is the creator of the mod.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@New_Cliche
muh pops though

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Nojokur
There is no mod but HPM and Alex Grandi is its creator.
ftfy

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Methnerd
sounds shitty m8

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@BinaryMan
so does all of islam

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Snarelure
HoI3 is autism the game. Vicky 2 is just boring. DH is good.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Garbage Can Lid
Vicky 2 is just boring
At least everything you do has an actual effect on the world beside hurr durr muh number

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

when did this general become anti vicky 2?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

yeehaw

w8t4u
w8t4u

@AwesomeTucker
well that isn't wrong

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

yeehaw

SniperGod
SniperGod

@BinaryMan
Same time it became fashionably to make fun of Ronald drump

Skullbone
Skullbone

Oh shit

Can Messalians mend the schism?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

yeehaw

Firespawn
Firespawn

@BinaryMan
never

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Garbage Can Lid
@StonedTime
Naw Vic is both autism and boring.
@BinaryMan
When people realized it was and still is a fucking terrible game.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I miss offtopic shitposting user. At least he was mildly entertaining and broke the monotony. This shit is just boring.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Rate my dynasty expansion

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@PurpleCharger
I'd offtopic post but I don't want to get b&

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@kizzmybutt
Most of this boring garbage is offtopic anyway. I really don't think the jannies give a shit right now desu.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@TalkBomber
All the White Men posts are on topic though

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Skullbone
Not sure about HIP, but in CK2+ every christian religion can eventually mend the schism, for example, nestorianism (or any heresy that becomes mainstream) can repudiate the council and become the new orthodox, which then can mend the schism against the catholics.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

beyaz erkekler

RavySnake
RavySnake

>>192158182
(i'm learning edginess btw)

eGremlin
eGremlin

Imagine how much better this world would be if everyone who thinks /gsg/-tier shitposting is funny were sent to ronald mcdonald land.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Prove this wrong.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Emberfire
I see, wish me luck.

King_Martha
King_Martha

*wishes him luck*

Illusionz
Illusionz

*proves this wrong*

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

*closes gsg*

hairygrape
hairygrape

don't ever delete my post ever again
fuck you janny

King_Martha
King_Martha

Ah, yes. It'sreally not hard to see why people prefer /gsg/ over t. /gsg/. You simply do not get such quality posting in that shitposter general.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@King_Martha
t. traditional /gsg/ falseflagger posting white men

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@eGremlin
It looks like they can, after a brief check with the console.

I just have to get rid of the Paulician Patriarchate next character

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Dreamworx
To my knowledge Emancipation simply makes you not a heresy, not sure if allows you to mend anything.

FastChef
FastChef

@Firespawn
Emancipation of Paulician then allows you to mend the schism

Then again, I didn't see Messalian as a faith you can mend the schism with.

likme
likme

be janny
only delete some of my yeehaw posts
okay

also is the random country picker thing working again? it's hard to pick what nation to play as on my own

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Hey, Romanon here. Sorry I haven't been posting lately – been busy with things. I'm going to continue the game sometime tonight. We'll be seeing the rise of religious turmoil and the youth of young Caesar Carianonus.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

why are south american countries so comfy, /gsg/?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@likme
some user made a new one, it's in the OP

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Deadlyinx
absolutely based and white

Evilember
Evilember

@Boy_vs_Girl
São Paulo
kys

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Boy_vs_Girl
São Paulo
no Entre-Ríos
why?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Bidwell
@Deadlyinx
@likme
http://orph.link
Yeah, that sure seems like a safe link.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Spamalot
@Evilember
it was my first time playing as Rio Grande
Sao Paulo is not part of South Brazil?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@BinaryMan
Switch DH with HoI4, then switch HoI4 (former DH) with CK2.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Spamalot
No, it's just as white and based, even more so, actually.But not part of the south.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@whereismyname
I see, also why should I get Entre-Rios?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Spamalot
Nope. It and Minas Gerais are the most based parts of Brazil though, far more than the g*rmans, sl*vs and n*tives of the South.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Carnalpleasure
It's gaucho too, it even starts with a brazilian minority, besides, the borders with south brazil+Uruguay+Entre-Ríos are GOAT

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

"tenshi eating corndog" isn't a much discussed concept on /gsg/

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@SniperWish
isso
I did a bit of research, and once HPM comes back I will try to make him add cores for São Paulo

SniperWish
SniperWish

@haveahappyday
Can you try to make him add Grão-Pará too?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@SniperWish
Hopefully, but I doubt he will add anything anyway
Brazil really needs some possible disunited states-like tags.
But I bet that if I bring up something like that to him he would just say "I'll think about it when I start doing South America"

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Fuck, I impulsively clicked out of this event without reading it. I wish I could have read it. It looks interesting.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@PurpleCharger
Nice Ireland.
Also, what was the event called?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Spazyfool
Something about the dual monarchy breaking up into pieces.

massdebater
massdebater

@CouchChiller
If you ask me HPM really doesn't have enough support for alternate options. I think the Disunited States and similar events wouldn't exist at all, and he'd actually argue against them, if they hadn't been in NNM in the first place.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Crazy_Nice
I meant the exact name, so that I could find what the description said through the files, can't you see you through the log?

@massdebater
Yeah, I think he even mentioned wanting to remove the second ACW or something like that.

hairygrape
hairygrape

I know you guys hate EU4 but here's my Dutch campaign at the time I achieved Sinaasappel. I still have 70 years in game so I was wondering if there's any easy achievements I can get while I wait for 1820. I was thinking Trade Hegemon if their current war with CW, super Venice and Spain continues or if they force them to cut ties with France. Another idea is The Rising Sun because I have Taiwan as a staging point and my entire military is in the Malays. I'm probably going to run this game to 1820 no matter what

Inmate
Inmate

@Firespawn
Found it, he said he "doesn't agree with it"

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Reminder that Huey Long did nothing wrong

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Firespawn
can't you see you through the log?
Unfortunately I loaded an older save to see if it would trigger again just so I could read it (it never did.)Luckily I saved after it happened and that wiped my log.
The name was something like "The Dual Monarchy [synonym for collapses]" In fact, I think it may have actually been "collapses"

eGremlin
eGremlin

dl cwe cause rip evw
want to play as britain and be a third superpower keeping the empire
start
ask US to help use develop nukes
get nukes by 1948 through US help and own research
event for west and east germany formation
US agrees to form west germany
France agrees to form West Germany
USSR agrees to form East Germany
I refuse and continue the occupation
out of NATO block for refusing to give my bit of Germany to US sphere West Germany
USSR threatens to invade my piece of Germany now I no longer have US backing
the soviets have entered this war under the rather childish delusion they were going to bomb everyone else and nobody was going to bomb them
they declare war
they've sown the wind
deploy nuclear weapons
and now they shall reap the whirlwind
USSR have no nuclear weapons to fight back
entire USSR mainland turned to dust as all their troops fall apart at the seams because their soldier pops are all dead
send a handful of troops into the nuclear hellfire to occupy the ashes
single handedly win the cold war and become the greatest power in the world 50 years ago and still can be

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@eGremlin
nice fanfic my dude

Inmate
Inmate

@eGremlin
Frances face when

WebTool
WebTool

@Boy_vs_Girl
Sorry, I didn't find anything, not in the localization at least.Did it all happen at the same time?Are all the breakaway states democracies?I can try finding it in the actual event files.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@eGremlin
I don't care if that's what happened in game, but post the New World Order, make a map with Your Empire and how You're going to reorganize the corpse of the USSR

Inmate
Inmate

@Boy_vs_Girl
@WebTool
Actually, I think I found it.

Tensions have been growing for decades in the Dual-Monarchy which could hardly handle the demands of both continentals and islanders. Now, Revolters have swarmed the streets of the great cities of the Dual-Monarchy in a scale not seen since the First German Revolution ! The nationalist rebels are decided to end the monarchy in blood if necessary and with it the very idea of the Anglois dream.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@WebTool
Yeah, pretty sure it all happened at once since they were intact last I looked. And yes, they are all republics.
@Inmate
That's probably it. Thanks, man.

girlDog
girlDog

@hairygrape
implying people actually hate the best game

Illusionz
Illusionz

@girlDog
hello dotty

Snarelure
Snarelure

tfw America single-handedly destroyed the British Empire

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Snarelure
?

5mileys
5mileys

@Snarelure
and the commies, and the nazis twice
yeah we are pretty good lol

iluvmen
iluvmen

what is the arche

viagrandad
viagrandad

@iluvmen
Elaborate further.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@5mileys
America destroyed commies
user, I'm sorry to tell you this...

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

CCCCCAN I HAVEEE AK KAAK AKAK

Inmate
Inmate

How do I handle victoria 1? I tried playiny as sardinia piedmont, and I jmgot overwhelmed by rebels and I passed some reforms and it didn't help. Can I get some advice?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

*farts*

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

accidentally put uncooked rice in my cooked rice
eating it anyway
How fucked am I? and how can I do this as china in Victoria 2?

idontknow
idontknow

ah yes

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@idontknow
This wasn't really worthy of ah yes in every field.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

when is it okay to savescum and when should you just keep playing?
and don't say never because I know you shitheads aren't playing on ironman mode

Emberfire
Emberfire

@SomethingNew
What does "ah" stand for?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@PurpleCharger
Where's the capitals of the breakaway states?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Emberfire
ah stands for "ah heck"

Emberfire
Emberfire

@eGremlin
Trash fanfic from a perfidious albion cocksucker

FastChef
FastChef

the so called communist dictatorship

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@TalkBomber
When you get cholera or make a stupid mistake due to negligence like forgetting to change your national focus.

massdebater
massdebater

@Emberfire
Austria-Hungary

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@FastChef
so much for the planned economic left

TreeEater
TreeEater

@SomethingNew
Maybe this is then

Booteefool
Booteefool

@FastChef
annex afghanistan and baloch pakistan

Bidwell
Bidwell

@haveahappyday
@Emberfire
ywn be this butthurt about someone playing a mod

Skullbone
Skullbone

@hairygrape
I didn't know that. Thanks.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Bidwell
Nukes don't work like that in CWE, rosbif

Post your shit on Fanfiction.net and leave us alone

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Skullbone
no problem :)

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Garbage Can Lid
t. never played cwe
They give a province modifier that kills life rating and they also lost huge amounts of pops in states hit by them.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Soft_member
Ruining pops doesn't mean shit, organization isn't damaged enough for nukes to matter.

If it did, everyone would jump on the Operation Unthinkable event

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Need_TLC
France: Laon (DM has Paris)
Occitania: Tulle
England: Livreport (Liverpool)

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@TalkBomber
t. never played vicky
Killing the soldier pops mean all their brigades turn red and reinforce much slower, they're also highly liable to collapse entirely, making for easy stackwipes and hugely one sided battles.
Granted, it doesn't make much sense thst nuking Moscow depletes armies in East Germany, but that's what happens.

girlDog
girlDog

@Burnblaze
Then why do I always get over-run by USSR in Operation Unthinkable while play defense in W. Germany, with nukes?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@girlDog
Are you actually taking the events and decisions to nuke them? Because simply having nukes won't do anything.

girlDog
girlDog

is it even possible to keep artisans from starving

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@girlDog
Yeah, but you need to keep tariffs on 0% or lower, which simply isn't worth it.

Booteefool
Booteefool

ah yes. revolution soon comrades

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Booteefool
playing eu3
not playing meiou
It is the epitome of good EU.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Booteefool
this makes me remember how bad EU3 was

askme
askme

@Bidwell
I called it a fanfic because he didn't post any pics of the game, not because I don't like the mod my dude

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@askme
Don't be such a ned

eGremlin
eGremlin

@SomethingNew
I'll try harder next time lad

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@idontknow
Can you change the dev button interactions so that having a max-level (for your tech) fort or road removes the upgrade option?

WebTool
WebTool

can't play CK2 without blobbing because any independent realm you set up will always get destroyed by the AI
ah yes, what a fun game

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Evil_kitten
I take it Ireland has Dublin?

Also, care to show what Gran Colombia looks like when it breaks apart?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

yeehaw

RavySnake
RavySnake

*farts*
heh, who knew HPM had such a mature humor

SniperWish
SniperWish

hpm breaks genocide
people ask for it fixed
he makes it less effective, cost more infamy, ands pops still flee unless 51% of them support the ruling party which is almost never the case
How can one person be so obtuse?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@SniperWish
people
You mean /pol/tards.Those are hardly "people"

likme
likme

How did a bunch of failed empires beat me in industry and prestige? Cringe.

Should I integrate Finland because of the threat of Sweden right next door, or have I blobbed enough?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Burnblaze
In event of a full Nuclear War, which is entirely possible in CWE, your troops don't just get depleted, many major cities of your's get the 'nuked' modifier, and keep constantly losing pops.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@likme
Britain, Gibraltar, and Ireland under Britain isn't in the EU
This is great.
Now post their popd and ruin it.

MPmaster
MPmaster

What should be my goals for a portugal game in the newest HPM? Pink map at least, obviously, but beyond that?

I'm thinking of expanding my colonies in Indonesia and acquiring another treaty port in China. I'm also thinking of taking one of the northern Brazilian states, either Nordeste, Maranhao or Grao-Para (by the way, the color of Grao-Para and Amazonas is indistinguishable)

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@LuckyDusty
Yeah it's not looking too good, but to be fair that might be its colonies. It kept Nigeria and what used to be German East Africa, along with the Suez region. Also it's in the CSA's sphere alongside Canada. If they form Anglosphere Atlantic Union it's gonna be bad because it'd make America #1 again.

askme
askme

@MPmaster
Don't forget Taprobana(Ceylon)

Methnerd
Methnerd

@MPmaster
Those seem like pretty good goals. If you want to really meme it up you should use your alliance with Britain to get Indonesia. You have claims there due to Timor.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Ignoramus
Post the regions in Britain proper. I don't actually know how CWE does it.

TechHater
TechHater

@Snarelure
No can do because they're states and not colonial regions.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@TechHater
Yeah, okay mate, I just meant post the fucking regional map mode. Jesus fucking Christ.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Stupidasole
alright here ya go ya pinhead

also

the EU of all of western europe minus Britain, Berlin and Italy still has less pops than the BASED Soviet Union

LMAO

farquit
farquit

@Soft_member
Like taking blood from a stone and that's the fucking truth you absolute shit.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Soft_member
still mass their entire army in a single province like it's some sort of napoleonic era
ah yes

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@farquit
They'd actually be able to if they bred more tbqh. Also why did ya even need the states map? They're pretty much normal in CWE though I'd like it if they included HPM's improvements.

@CodeBuns
What's worse is their entire army on the field is smaller than my Czech pacification division.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@TurtleCat
I was going to ask you to posts pops in a specific state but given have down right tedious you made that entire process I think I shan't bother now you cunt.

Inmate
Inmate

@likme
Liberate Ireland.It's your duty to stop british imperialism.

idontknow
idontknow

lmao

@RavySnake
Which one?

FastChef
FastChef

@TurtleCat
HPM's improvements.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@idontknow
Well I'm bloody well not risking it now, am I? What sort of dopey muppet do you take me for, lad?

RavySnake
RavySnake

based

TreeEater
TreeEater

@RavySnake
When are you dismantling them?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Playboyize
The second option is a reconstruction of a project I began a long time ago to rebalance all traits, modifying the skill bonuses and nerfs they provide and, most importantly, changing opinion modifiers so characters with conflicting traits dislike each other much more. This encourages times of extreme stability as much as instability, which jacks up variance and makes "problem vassals" much more persistent a threat.
Since option number one doesn't require any time to prepare, work on this one, worst case scenario you won't use it

happy_sad
happy_sad

@WebTool
What did he mean by this?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@LuckyDusty
A good point, there's no real harm in having it as an option. It will still cost me time, though. I wish the new HIP update were already out so I could begin working on it now, but I don't want to begin working on it right before a major expansion and update.

Last time I implemented such a feature it worked incredibly well at balancing large realms, though, so I look forward to attempting the same now. Hopefully it'll allow for some more long-term dynamism, but I'll have to see if I can replicate my earlier results with a great deal more traits and trait stats.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Dreamworx
I'm going to continue the game sometime tonight.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Bidwell
Do you play normal games or do you just play them so you can write AARs?
If so, what game do you play the most?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Bidwell
So what will this even consist of? Making negative traits more radical?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

How can I can make money in CWE? What's the cold war version of the Liquor meme? I need get some meme minnow to win the space race

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Dreamworx
been busy with things.
Elaborate

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Bidwell
So, looting venice as Lithuania eh?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@AwesomeTucker
https://youtu.be/WfYyBp4Ln2s

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Playboyize
@Bidwell
wanting to prevent the ai from forming a successful country because that would make the game too hard
Nice cheating, isn't staling vikings' unique bad enough?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Crazy_Nice
Oil nigga
Fuckin oil

Im playing as the UAE and im drowning in money and slav- i mean immigrant labor

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@whereismyname
Ray William Johnson

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Playboyize
@Bidwell
Dude nobody cares stop spamming the thread with these mile long posts

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@TurtleCat
this

Playboyize
Playboyize

@TurtleCat
But I don't want to play as sandmonkeys

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@SniperGod
I play regular games, yes, but not as much as I used to. I played the enjoyment out of most Paradox games a long time ago, like a lot of other user. Other than mods or new games restoring interest for me, I typically need something else to invest me. That's why I do AARs, because they help keep me interested in the game I'm playing and the story I'm writing.

When I do play, lately it's been that I play Darkest Hour or Vicky.

@Dreamworx
Make all traits more reactive with one another. Kind people will dislike cruel people more, cruel people will dislike kind people more (or at least have a greater intrinsic malus to liege_opinion), etc. It's meant to more accurately and extremely measure how rebellious certain vassals who wouldn't abide by the feudal contract will be to their liege-lords, and to organically allow for very strong relationships between similar characters with hostile or opportunistic ones between opposites.

@Spamalot
Hardly. Limitation, not prevention. There will be periods of mass stability when lords largely agree with their liege, but as there truly was in the feudal period there will be vassals who are opportunistic and constantly in conflict with their lieges. Philippe always hated Flanders for a reason.

Even though you're shitposting, I think this is important enough to stress. This will be tested, modified, and discarded if it's insufficiently balanced. This is an attempt to moderate what I saw in my last test game, which was an Abbasid empire that held all of Egypt, Arabia, the Near East, Persia, and much of the steppe while they had an infant Caliph, were 1,000 in debt, and that Caliph had negative piety and prestige. Those Abbasids should have collapsed, but instead their vassals all--and I mean ALL--had +100 relations with the Caliph. That's what I want to prevent.

Methshot
Methshot

@happy_sad
This
he thinks he's a star like Britney or something but actually nobody cares
@BlogWobbles
Oh look he didn't reply. Spineless

TechHater
TechHater

@BlogWobbles
Hardly
Well I can ~~hardly~~ take your game seriously

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@BlogWobbles
Shit I forgot I replied already, made 2 posts by accident
Sorry lad, dishonorable tactic I know
Have a funny picture as a cheery reminder it almoat never rains in Caliphornia

TreeEater
TreeEater

@RavySnake
Farts are disgusting. There's nothing funny about them. Only a Jew would find joy in such things.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Deadlyinx
Caliphornia
Fucm im late to work

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

I'm after a download of Hearts of Iron IV Kaiserreich without using the steam workshop to download it for reasons

Can someone hook me up?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@happy_sad
?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@BunnyJinx
What did he mean by this?

likme
likme

@cum2soon
Stop.

Evilember
Evilember

@likme
What did he mean by this?

likme
likme

@Evilember
ܒܵܗܹܠ

idontknow
idontknow

What should be done about the PRC? Try to ally them again against the Euro menace?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@whereismyname
Huh, I always thought that was from Family Guy.
I used to hate RWJ so much back in the day, now he just seems dated and quaint.
What are some good dated and quaint things to do in gsgs?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@idontknow
m*oist
No.Invade and balkanize them.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@idontknow
that low of a military score
what happened? It's only 1970 in my Franco-British Union (renamed Anglo-French Imperium since it's run by traditionalists) game and they have a mil score of 1500

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Should I play Novo Estada in CWE? Is the mod even fun when you aren't forming any supernations?

whereismyname
whereismyname

Why does Paradox have basically no competition? This seems like the easiest kind of game to make as an indie (given the near total lack of assets required to ship a complete game).

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@BunnyJinx
Novo Estada

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

If only this didn't use PDM as a base.

idontknow
idontknow

@Need_TLC
post anglois supremacy in the culture map mode

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@idontknow
I was secretly the UK the entire time.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@whereismyname
Only rick + morty fans and broke nerds play this shit.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Evil_kitten
How Irish is Ireland?Can you release them just to show off their individual POPs?
And is the HRE Czech primary?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Playboyize
More Irish than any Ireland that's ever been.
Bohemian is accepted, not primary.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@DeathDog
t-that's so based,,,
God, I wish it was like that in real life.
I thought the HRE was a Bohemia meme, can germans form it too then?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@TreeEater
No, but forming it makes them take a German primary.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@StrangeWizard
I'm posting an SS-20 Saber in honour of the defunct East vs West until we get a good Cold War game.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Is gsg&taxes lad here?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Firespawn
What about... you know what, both CWE and Goy$ mods are shit.

takes2long
takes2long

@w8t4u
They've been a complete shithole. They're pretty much the North Korea of this game (especially since real NK is gone) that just barely gets to GP occasionally.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Need_TLC
@Evil_kitten
playing as the dual monarchy
not based England

why

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@RumChicken
not slowly driving French identities to extinction while preserving British ones

Firespawn
Firespawn

@RumChicken
Both France and England are fucked up by multiculturalism and there is little point in keeping those identities alive because if you do, that will be the root of conflicts for hundreds of years.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Firespawn
That's why you become England and genocide the Anglois.

Techpill
Techpill

@hairygrape
genocide a bunch of Brits
Why?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Techpill
for speaking french

MPmaster
MPmaster

@hairygrape
it's not french

DeathDog
DeathDog

@BlogWobbles
meiou
AEIOU?

whereismyname
whereismyname

New HPM btw
http://www.moddb.com/mods/historical-project-mod/downloads/historical-project-mod-version-0391

hairygrape
hairygrape

white men

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

so this is how /gay strategy general/ dies, huh?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

based white men

Methnerd
Methnerd

@whereismyname
see @likme

whereismyname
whereismyname

Is CWE any good in the 1992 start date, or is it only bearable in the actual Cold War one?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@whereismyname
How do you feel about minorities?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@haveahappyday
Not the biggest fan of them, why?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Fuzzy_Logic
Most Western countries have minorities in '92, and a difficult time stopping more from immigrating in.

TechHater
TechHater

@Playboyize
Ah, I see.But what I really wanted to do was to play Russia, so I guess that doesn't affect them very much.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@TechHater
not wanting to play as W&B Soviet Union

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Supergrass
That's what I wanted to do, actually.But reforming it as Russia sounds much more fun than just starting at it's peak.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Sharpcharm
peak

You have to survive the Cold War first.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Need_TLC
Don't even lie, I know the AI didn't do this.

@Evil_kitten
secretly UK
no Scotland
all of southern England has Frankish names
Catholic

wut

@TreeEater
Eh? It's supposed to be Bohemian as primary. Y'know, because the Emperor is Bohemian.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@w8t4u
Complete the pic with this

in the end it was only for the better

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@King_Martha
AI genuinely did it.
no Scotland
Maybe look at the first picture again?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@King_Martha
It's supposed to be Bohemian as primary
It's not, though.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Dreamworx
conquering Scotland when there is literally no point

Also I still don't believe you on the AI doing that. I've seen AI do Aragon-Italy. I've seen AI do Arcadia. I've seen AI do Ameriga. But this is something else.

In any case, have a Britan-France

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Nude_Bikergirl
There is possibility of obtaining cores on Scotland and getting them accepted so I'm sure AI can do that.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Nude_Bikergirl
when there is literally no point
You get cores and an accepted culture if you go full English instead of compromising with frogs.

Also, are you suspicious about the communist rebellion in Russia or the >HRE

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@BlogWobbles
Okay listen, did you stop replying to posts or what?
Anyway, I thought empires and big kingdoms have revolts all the time. Does HIP change that? In my games Byzantium and HRE get wrecked by revolts nearly every time.

likme
likme

@GoogleCat
@Firespawn
Oh right, you reminded me about the going the English path. I forgot about that.

Usually because not long after it all implodes. I'm guessing you took it back though. Didn't the south secede to Provence? Or did you obliterate them before that could happen?

HRE
Amazonie hasn't formed Ameriga
Bengal the industrial monster
Plantagenia hasn't formed the HRE either
Taiping that actually managed to westernize
HRE took Libya

I don't even understand anymore what happened to your world. All I know is I don't want to live in it.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@whereismyname
Why are people ignoring this? It's the new release of HPM

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@BinaryMan
gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@likme
HRE was born because I fucked both Burgundy and Scandinavia as quickly as I could to secure Scotland and France, and they jumped on the bandwagon to grab their stuff. They took Libya and that bit of the Netherlands in the first Great War over some irrelevant shit Turkey was doing. I don't know why they have Romania but whatever.
The Septimans formed Arcadia and got dismantled, so Arcadia is a rump fascist state, and Plantagenia and Vinland fight border wars while both 30-40% Septiman.
I lost to a Breton-led Jacobin rebellion in the early 40s, which pretty much disabled the Provencal revolt because it uses a flag Jacobins themselves set when they win. I didn't actually know this until I went looking to see why the fuck everything was so stable.
Taiping and Bengal I don't know, I didn't pay attention to either.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Need_TLC
What do you mean, EU3 was lit

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

white men

iluvmen
iluvmen

Bored, post a country and I'll paint a target
dark = proper , light = dominions

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@iluvmen
Australia.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@iluvmen
finland

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@iluvmen
Brazil

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Fried_Sushi
goal is to become the main power in east asia
no point having direct rule as australia because your pops will never migrate to your colonies

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Carnalpleasure
No New Zealand?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@iluvmen
Saklava

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@iluvmen
Poland

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Lunatick
goal is to become greater Finland and release UBD as a puppet
@Methnerd
new zealand is based, i wouldn't wish australian rule upon them

idontknow
idontknow

@likme
what is this?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Burnblaze
Goal is to colonise Tanzania and release a puppet ethiopia. Changeowner Somalia to them (if you have annexed that land of course).
Also, try to be in the top 10 industry by the end of the game.
If you want to become grosser, take Sri Lanka, Taiwan and hainan

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@LuckyDusty
Goal is to become an industrial power without pissing off germany
Borders are not very Groß but if you want then obviously expand west as well

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@TurtleCat
Goal is to stay a monarchy
light green is puppets

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Fuzzy_Logic
This makes no sense, why would they blob into Lithuania but not take lands where Polish people live?

Skullbone
Skullbone

cool

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Methnerd
because russia is shit in hpm but prussia isnt

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Garbage Can Lid
not freeing and puppeting Galicia
Shit map
@Methnerd
Probably one of those /pol/ kids that unironically posts their 500th Germany game here, too attached

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@iluvmen
Saxony

askme
askme

@Skullbone
Very early Stalin.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Aside from pops, what's the appeal of vic 2 that makes people such elitists about it?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@iluvmen
Lao

JunkTop
JunkTop

@w8t4u
hpm is good because germany is strong and russia is weak so I can blob
Abolute state of the vicky fanbase

Nojokur
Nojokur

@BunnyJinx
Pops are the appeal. Everything else that makes it good comes from the pop system.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@BunnyJinx
victorian times are epic because of alt history steampunk nerds...there are EPIC mods like Hyper Prussia Mod which allow power fantasy nation Germania to blob into everything using buffs and scripted events and genocide all the SJWs and Niggers

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@BunnyJinx
There are things to do other than blobbing.
Nationalists are a pain in the ass, so making le epic empires like in TW games is hard and annoying to maintain.
Just staying in your own land, rushing medicine tech/reforms to increase your population and developing your economy can be surprisingly engaging.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Nojokur
the pops add nothing to the game which couldnt be simulated with a less complex system

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@BinaryMan
a less complex system
ah yes, mana is the answer

SniperGod
SniperGod

@BinaryMan
based johan dropping the REAL redpills

takes2long
takes2long

@BinaryMan
How do you simulate people as a resource with their own issues and purchasing without simulating the people?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@SniperGod
@kizzmybutt
im right

girlDog
girlDog

@Methnerd
Give a simpler system that does everything the pop system does.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@girlDog
civilization 4, stellaris, europa universallis

Emberburn
Emberburn

@LuckyDusty
all are utter shit
claiming civilization series having coherent population system is beyond retarded

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@StrangeWizard
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BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Should i deforest?

@BunnyJinx
being a edgy kid that supports "not mainstream" games and hates "normie" games.

Essentially being a hipster

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Emberburn
t. civ 5 baby

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@LuckyDusty
I didn't say 'list other games', I said give a simpler system that does everything the pop system does. Only in the broadest possible interpretation of what I asked, where you assume 'everything the pop system does' means 'provide some kind of gameplay', could you think that was an appropriate answer, and that interpretation is so broad as to make any response vacuous.

askme
askme

@AwesomeTucker
huh? I said series, not particular game, and I despise civ5 likewise

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@StrangeWizard
that style of writing
The fuck is up with you redditors

DeathDog
DeathDog

@iluvmen
russia

Soft_member
Soft_member

@StrangeWizard
Hmmmm yes I concur my dear sir...

Spamalot
Spamalot

This thread has become cancer
sigh
back to /r/victoria2 I go

Emberburn
Emberburn

@BlogWobbles
Should i deforest?
No, it'll make less money in the long run
Why do you name each screenshot with the same name?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Emberburn
I don't know what language it is and I can guess it means untitled.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@StrangeWizard
Why do retards use ' instead of "? It's not like it's harder to type, unless this is one of those symbols Cyrillic keyboards have problems with there's no reason not to be grammatically correct.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Burnblaze
There are things to do other than blobbing.
Same could be said about M&T, Ck2, hell, even fucking Stellaris

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@SomethingNew
europeans are just massively retarded and the worst posters in this entire thread. i could go the rest of my life without hearing the rambling and idiotic broken english brain farts of some russian or other third world retard

Supergrass
Supergrass

@CodeBuns
europeans are just massively retarded and the worst posters in this entire thread
Imagine being this ignorant.
Real america hours.

askme
askme

@SomethingNew
Single quotes are convention here, double gets used either for actual dialogue or for quotes within quotes.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@CodeBuns
The median American citizen gets worse healthcare than they would in Cuba.
Just thought I'd remind you of that.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Supergrass
your typing style is repugnant

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

be american
get shot

massdebater
massdebater

no healthcare
die

JunkTop
JunkTop

be white anglo
have jewish as accepted

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@BinaryMan
@massdebater
@Stupidasole
@Firespawn
not even american you mad nerds, go back to playing CSGO lmao

Inmate
Inmate

@LuckyDusty
M&T and CK2 aren't bad, but Stellaris's options for not blobbing are absolute shit and the few win conditions they have need blobs.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Fried_Sushi
spergs out about "europeans"
a-are you mad?... heh, just pretending to be retarded

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Fried_Sushi
yeah lad, you sure at times write like a kike, except fucking dumb at it, so I'm quite sure you're either leaf or american

TechHater
TechHater

@Fried_Sushi
Australian? Arab? Chink?
Either way you have nothing on Europe.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@TechHater
What's your problem with Australia?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

intervene in the greek civil war
win
they are still fighting
ah yes

w8t4u
w8t4u

@LuckyDusty
lad
embarrassing

@TurtleCat
i dont think your european mental gymnastics fully comprehend what you just read somewhere else and typed now

viagrandad
viagrandad

@w8t4u
how come, me laddy mate friend?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@viagrandad
unfunny, tedious, and generic

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Booteefool
unamusing, dull, and unoriginal

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Emberburn
Why should i name my screenshots?

press Print Screen
open paint
paste
save
post

Done

@PurpleCharger
Portuguese, and yes, it means untitled, or better yet, without title

@CodeBuns
imagine being this mad

Methshot
Methshot

@TreeEater
There is none really, just thay they aren't better than europe in sny significant way

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Soft_member
stop flipping out every time your lame Veeky Forums identity/defense mechanism is threatened

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Need_TLC
Portuguese

idontknow
idontknow

@RavySnake
what the fuck are you even talking about?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@VisualMaster
is /int/ just completely populated with 15 year olds who think they're hilarious lmao

girlDog
girlDog

@Crazy_Nice
If you take out the generals, definitely.
Some generals (perhaps most?) are even worse though

likme
likme

@Crazy_Nice
t. literally SEETHING brazilian

hairygrape
hairygrape

@likme
you have echolalia and you are ignored everywhere except Veeky Forums

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Crazy_Nice
No it's not
Neagro e retardo

Illusionz
Illusionz

@iluvmen
Wow who the fuck edited this
I'd rather have the original one with proper China, India and Russia having all of HPM's provinces than this disgusting mess honestly

takes2long
takes2long

@VisualMaster
I'm not brasilian, i am Portuguese

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@hairygrape
ignored everywhere except Veeky Forums
you mean every board except for /pol/, /b/ and /v/?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@eGremlin
True, you're 18 years old already.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@StrangeWizard
So, given that it's been well over a year already, how is HoI 4? Is it somewhat playable yet?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@MPmaster
I am

Lunatick
Lunatick

Reminder that in a few minutes mr Florryworry will be streaming his first Victoria 2 campaign.

https://go.twitch
.tv/florryworry

Emberfire
Emberfire

@SniperGod
It's okay if you ignore the stupid shit

RumChicken
RumChicken

Havn't played CK2 in years. What are Essential CK2 mods

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@VisualMaster
The south is a complete joke.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Lunatick
Die you corporate cancer SJW tool

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@SniperGod
It seems okay in your first campaign when you don't really know what you're doing...before you realize it's crap on crap. They've actually fixed some pretty major problems, and made significant improvements to the AI & interface...but the fundamental problems remain...and even with the improvements, the AI is still worthless. It's like the AI IQ went from 5 to 15....it's hell of a jump, but still irrelevant.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Lunatick
Why would you post that? This place isn't known to be receptive to any kind of 'streamers' and the like.

idontknow
idontknow

@Booteefool
retarded idiot braindead european mindset

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Raving_Cute
Stop impersonating me, tool.

@Booteefool
If anyone wants to watch an EU4 pro play Vicky and learn...

Soft_member
Soft_member

@ZeroReborn
Dude, that's not really funny. Nobody cares here for 'eu4 pros' or is intrested in elaborate gameplay techniqued that are historically implausible. Your impersonating of another poster is not either.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@RumChicken
Gib link to CK2+ 4.06.7 pls

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Soft_member
Florryworry is known for breaking and exploiting EU4.
Anyone with a brain realizes that it will be interesting to see what he will do when he gets to know liqoria better.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Poker_Star
post a single attractive female and i might

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Ignoramus
Hol up...

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Burnblaze
exploits are intresting
Not.

Inmate
Inmate

@Ignoramus
@King_Martha
Senpai, I present to you the beautiful, Katheryn Winnick of Ukraine.

Flameblow
Flameblow

In Soviet China taxes pay YOU

farquit
farquit

@iluvmen
Exploiting game mechanics during ironman campaigns demonstrates game concepts and flaws in game mechanics.
His videos on how retarded the economy and loans are in EU4 are fun and educational.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Poker_Star
the russian site has it, I think

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Soft_member
@King_Martha
The only thing that stops him from being blatantly assmad at random victoria 2 posts is the fact that his new internet BFF loves vicky and specially its exploits, give up.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@farquit
It is well known that paradox games are bad, stop shilling your stream you fucking swampnigger

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Fuzzy_Logic
I have no idea what that means

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@VisualMaster
@Inmate
not really my type but it'll pass
https://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=64425&p=1053910#p1053910
you have to register on it but it works, rezmar is a good lad

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Deadlyinx
Meant for @iluvmen

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Deadlyinx
I am russian and I approve of this post

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Deadlyinx
Thanks senpai

Have Emma " I <3 Harvey" Watson

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@TalkBomber
byela rus

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Deadlyinx
not really my type
You into men or something?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@SomethingNew
is white russia white?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Garbage Can Lid
Emma " I <3 Harvey" Watson
THAT IS SLANDER AND NOT TRUE AT ALL YOU HAVE NO CONFIRMATION AT ALL SHE IS PURE

Evilember
Evilember

@eGremlin
Yes.Absolutely.

farquit
farquit

@Playboyize
stfu you embarrassing lame european

w8t4u
w8t4u

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Supergrass
Supergrass

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Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

what's with all those filtered posts

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Supergrass
Mfw I remember when this first started

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Supergrass
post the pastebin pls

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@SniperWish
Google 'Waggle pastebin'
should be the first result

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Inmate
I had some, but you got it.

@SomethingNew
Oh well that explains it then. Still odd to see. And I guess I forgot about WWI and dismantlement. Yeah, Arcadia and Ameriga get shitcanned with dismantle CB.

Total Revolution games are fun, when they happen.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Flameblow
bravo setty bravo simsulla

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

First post with 8 decides my religion for my nomad ck2 game

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Skullbone
your
it is the only stream I watch, well I did watch a bit of atwix. It is entertaining.

TechHater
TechHater

@Nude_Bikergirl
Tengri

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Nude_Bikergirl
Catholicism

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@ZeroReborn
silence you SJW corporate cancer tool. soulless console gamer wants to take the ethics out of gaming journalism

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Nude_Bikergirl
Zunism

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Nude_Bikergirl
Orthodox Christianity

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Nude_Bikergirl
Syriac

King_Martha
King_Martha

What mod is CWE?
Give me a quick gestalt on it

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Nude_Bikergirl
@TechHater
Reroll

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@BlogWobbles
You do not want to get into this, cancerous tool...

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Nude_Bikergirl
Atheism.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Nude_Bikergirl
Atheist

farquit
farquit

@Illusionz
I used to do that but just by editing the country txt files in notepad and giving Germany every research development and a ton of cash

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Nude_Bikergirl
Sunni Islam

Soft_member
Soft_member

OwO what's this

Playboyize
Playboyize

@King_Martha
https://github.com/settintotrieste/Victoria-2-Cold-War-Enhancement-Mod-CWE
NWO, but a tad less retarded.
The creator, setty, lurks here as well.

takes2long
takes2long

So started new Russian campaing with new HPM. Have to say great changes. Did not have to use hour to fix armies and deleting units with 5pops.

Managed to fight fast war against Austria with allies. To free Transylvania and to take Moldovian provinces they have. That war and Oriental Crisis was enough to knock roaches out of great power. Sphered them and principalities and managed to form Romania.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Playboyize
What are the main diferences between NWO and CWE?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Soft_member
@Playboyize
Corporate shills shilling their SJW mod here. Begone soulless console gaming tools.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Soft_member
The education part isn't good desu
Teachers ale already lacking their daily needs even at 100% education spending
If anything, the techs and reforms that increase education efficiency should all increase education spending

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@takes2long
Now I have to secure central asia and prepare for Crimean war.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@takes2long
retarded european monkey typing
fuck off

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@MPmaster
Fuck off, Jamal, /gsg/ is for white people

iluvmen
iluvmen

@takes2long
@New_Cliche
You better be going sovieticums.
Also, free Bulgaria so that you can get Constantinople sooner

idontknow
idontknow

@New_Cliche
# 2775

hairygrape
hairygrape

@PurpleCharger
meme from 2012 that only gets spouted by butthurt nerds
european spotted

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@hairygrape
I bet you voted Trump

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@MPmaster
@hairygrape
@PurpleCharger
@Gigastrength
Europe vs USA, the nobody cares edition.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Ah, yes. It's really not hard to see why people prefer /gsg/ over t. /gsg/. You simply do not get such quality posting in that shitposter general.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Gigastrength
le kek jamal brazilball is a nigger xDD
speak for yourself

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Boy_vs_Girl
based favelashitter

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Crazy_Nice
Mad Macaco is mad

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Raving_Cute
im not brazilian and you're not funny

Booteefool
Booteefool

@idontknow
Was going to give serbs transylvanian provinces that dont go into Romania when you form it. Since they are serb core. But reliased I can just use return cores desicion.

@iluvmen
No this will be try to stay absolute monarchy no matter what. Prepare for jacobin slaughtering. Also trying to prevent republics forming in europe.

@iluvmen
Bulgaria is usually last I free. I think I will try to have one war against turks before actual Crimean war to weaken them. So who will benefit from it? Greeks, Serbs Mountain niggers, Romanians, Bulgars or will I just take Kars early?

Techpill
Techpill

@BunnyJinx
t gsg by definition eliminates ~50% of the content.

This is a relatively rare example of thread arguing where there's a simple mathematically correct answer to which is better.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@New_Cliche
2775

So this is the state of vic2 community here...

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Booteefool
romanians, they are honorary slavs desu

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Is there any reason not to convert colony to full state if you are able?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@BunnyJinx
Okey so roachcleaning war will have goal to give Romania acces to sea and free Mountain nigger cores so they are not one province nation. Have to time war right so eternal anglo does not ally roaches when they get out of my sphere.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@farquit
Aha
No.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

start war against ashikaga
sieging kyoto
apparently my ally also has troops there
he occupies the province
going to have to redo the war because this cunt wont transfer it

idontknow
idontknow

The only problem is I have to take the American colonies as states, giving them representation in Parliament.

massdebater
massdebater

@idontknow
Did you ship poo loos from india to fight?

Methnerd
Methnerd

What's with all the autistic memes in this place? I posted a game with Germany yesterday and I got swarmed by "HAHAHA GROßGERMANIUM XDDD" posts. WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT A NEW PLAYER TO POST YOU FUCKING AUTISTS??

And before that I asked a simple question on how I crack the game and I again got swarmed by fucking autists with all their unfunny inside jokes. Fuck you and fuck those games, they are literally one of the most boring shit I've ever touched. Also fuck the guy in /twg/ who suggested I try out those autistic map painting simulators and "ask for guidance on the /gsg/ general and they will help you". Bunch of manchildren.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@massdebater
Nope, I'm actually solely building British and Irish regiments. Irish infantry, British artillery. A combination made in heaven.

girlDog
girlDog

@Carnalpleasure
not taking the entire east coast

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Methnerd
The reason for that is because everyone here is fucking tired of the #18723818293 iteration of Germania extending from Paris to Moscow. Post something more interesting and you won't get memed that hard

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@girlDog
It's already pushing the boundaries of reality to do this, besides, Dixies deserve a homeland.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Gigastrength
Lad, it costs 50 infamy per state.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@idontknow
@Carnalpleasure
how are you realistically do everything you planned by the end of the game? i remember the map you posted

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Stark_Naked
You've got 50 years to do it. Cant see why that'll be a problem.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Flameblow
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0wned,p0wned an laid the fuckout by RADICAL YUGOSLAVIA. dam your a fag.. have double the dose of flippum birdums 0_o,,

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Stark_Naked
@Stupidasole
I meant 50 warscore, by the way.
And it'll be a problem because I want to have it done by 1900 at latest. I don't want to be struggling to do it in the dying years of the game.
Besides, the CSA is a great country, not like those Yankee pig dogs.
@MPmaster
It should be fairly simple really. The CSA dominion will do half of the work for me.

Techpill
Techpill

Why can I still not form the South German Federation? I am certain I have all the necessary provinces as well as having nationalism and imperialism
In HPM btw

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Techpill
Check your decisions and actually read the decision requirements?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Carnalpleasure
have you decided what to do with india?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Techpill
post a screenshot of the recquirements ding dong

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Finally, Kaffa is the largest city in Europe. Kartli is on its way to also become largest city in Mena.

Next in line is to conquer Tabriz and also make it the largest city in Continent, and so i will finally finish the union of 3 people: Georgians, Pontic Greeks and Azeris

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Playboyize
I have multiple times and I can't see what I haven't fulfilled, any ideas?

girlDog
girlDog

@Dreamworx
Post population mapmode

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Stupidasole
Yes, i'm abandoning it.
Too much work required to maintain it.

Techpill
Techpill

@Spamalot
Sigmaringen is a puppet.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Techpill
no they're not, I made Prussia release them in a war

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Firespawn
Show it.
Otherwise you are missing a south german majority province.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@TreeEater
I'm confused as fuck
culture map coming in a second

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Stark_Naked
You need the southern part of A-L.
That's it.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I was told alsace lorraine wasnt needed but @Raving_Cute

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Dreamworx
pontic
ugh.. also post rest of map

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@LuckyDusty
If NGF forms you need A-L.
It's for all south german majority provinces.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Raving_Cute
ah yep got it, you were right

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@likme
Nice.
You should make a culture map next, now that you got the map to be dynamic.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@LuckyDusty
You do need Alsace Lorraine though.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Garbage Can Lid
@LuckyDusty
South german majority with germany cores.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@LuckyDusty
ah good to see the proud sarawaks declared independence from the it*lians..

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@LuckyDusty
You're not me.
@Stupidasole
Yeah, cheat doctrine of lapse for free infamy until the US is annexed and then take the Empress of India decision and have it consisting entirely of puppets.
I don't want to control it because then British pops will go there rather than North America, South Africa, Australia, and other places I want to make British.
See pic related, the red parts will be the only ones I directly control, the rest will be puppets. The only part I'll directly own is the Maldives.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Shit bogomilist heresy has a unique government type, any other heresies that do it ? I'm talking about HIP by the way.

SniperWish
SniperWish

[Panic intensifies]

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@AwesomeTucker
This @Illusionz
That's just fucking disgusting.
Does anyone have the previous map?

w8t4u
w8t4u

As Japan (or I guess other nations too) how much better is it to expand into places like China before westernizing? Or does it really not matter?
minmaxing
I'm new don't get mad.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

I'm going to play a Turkey game where I expel all non-Tanzimat accepted peoples (Turks, Albanians, Bosniaks, Azeris) either by liberating the parts that are fully non-Turkish or by genociding the mixed areas, then play tall instead of gross ottomaniums.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Spazyfool
genociding
on ghay wide a scale
in nu-HPM
You'll only kill around 5% and it'll cost huge amounts of infamy.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@New_Cliche

Wait what? Did he change it recently?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Stark_Naked
What's wrong with it?

takes2long
takes2long

@New_Cliche
It kill from 5% to 20%
In the ottomans's starting 5 millions pops that's from 1 to 4 million people dead.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@GoogleCat
where the FUCK have you been?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@DeathDog

I haven't played in like 6-7 months. Damn, that sucks. I wanna edit it back to the old amount, anyone recall what it was exactly?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@RavySnake
you still kill around the same percentage, the thing is though your own accepted pops leave en masse
infamy is the same iirc

this means you can't color your grob germaniums all grey easily like before

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Spazyfool
@New_Cliche
using HPM

takes2long
takes2long

@Evil_kitten
No they don't leave and the percentage was lowered with wider scopes

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Playing Kaiserreich as Britain
It's the second Weltkrieg
France and Germany are fighting around the Rhineland in battles leaving hundreds of thousands, dead.
Germany's entire navy is at the bottom of the North Sea.
Take my army over the unguarded Baltic sea and land at Estonia
Steal all Germany's poorly defended Eastern European satellites.
Get to Berlin before Germany pulls half their army away from the Rhineland to try stop me from capturing it.
Of course their defence against France instantly collapses at this moment and they're getting gangabanged on two fronts.
tfw you did barely any of the actual fighting but made 90% of the gains

I love playing as Britain.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@takes2long
@Evil_kitten

I see, so to get the most percentage, you need to be more specific with the genocide rather than say all non-accepted pops?

Inmate
Inmate

@takes2long
In the new version (0.3.9) he made it so the absolute MOST it can kill is between 10% and 30%, and that's for extremely narrow cases like Serbs genociding Bosnia. For something like the Ottomans with a huge sprawling empire you'd only kill around 5%, if not probably even less. He also made it so the larger the scale the more infamy you get, so you'd probably end up killing about 200,000 (barely a scratch on the culture mapmode) and getting about 20 infamy for it.
From the changelog:
For the sake of improving the realism a little bit, Genocide scope (more people vs less, more places vs less) should effect infamy gain and effectiveness. The narrower the scope, the less infamy you get and the more people are killed. Changed base effectiveness for the narrowest scope from 30% to 70% to 10% to 30%. Broader scopes are even less effective. Non accepted pops will start to get militant before the event proper. Changed the event to be triggered instead of being a normal event checking for conditions. Animists, Yazidi and Jewish are exempt from the new rules due to their low numbers (the latter two) or low "tech" (animists) and will have the same rules as before. Slightly increased the time needed for organizing everything.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@w8t4u
Yes.

@Inmate
The lowest is 5%, the highest is 20%
It's a random
Something like the ottomans or the uk 5% are millions of people

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Soft_member
The lowest is 5%, the highest is 20%
Proof?

askme
askme

@Inmate

10->30% is kind of low though, not sure why he did that.The Ottomans eradicated 75% of their Armenian population over like 5 years for example.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Spazyfool
@PurpleCharger
Goes from 10% to 40% in the most specific cases, when you use a specific religion.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Is this the best possible Europe?

farquit
farquit

@Spazyfool
Doesn't reduce_pop = 0.95 mean kill 95%? Or does it mean leave 95% alive?

girlDog
girlDog

@askme
Imagine if the british could eliminate 75% of the population of India in 5 years

@farquit
No it means 5%

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@farquit
No.
new_pop = reduce_pop*current_pop

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Save us.
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/191468936/#191479278

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@girlDog

Yeah, but the population numbers are wayyyyyy different, scale matters here. 2 million Armenians in Turkey vs how many tens of millions of Indians.

Techpill
Techpill

@Harmless_Venom
Free independent union of Orkney-Malta-Aegean Islands
It's beautiful

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Spazyfool
That's the thing tho
For specific religions it kills from 10% to 40%
40% of all orthodox in the ottoman empire
Greeks, serbs, bulgarians, romanians, armenians

farquit
farquit

@girlDog
@Spazyfool
The way he did it was stupid, because he incentivised limited genocide, i.e: targeting a specific group. But other than religious options there's no way to do that. You can't solely target the Armenians as the Ottomans. You can't solely target the Poles as Germany. You can't solely target the Irish as Britain.

takes2long
takes2long

Playing with the new HPM, and I fucked up and let Romania form. Anyway, despite Romania forming, they haven't declared independence yet. What's going on?

Techpill
Techpill

@Nude_Bikergirl
40% of all orthodox in the ottoman empire
It's not though, is it? Because that scale would have reduced efficiency and cost more infamy.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@takes2long
How did you get that desert province in Cyrenaica?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@farquit
The religion options are the ones who kill more
True you cant target only armenians but you can target all orthodox and that includes all armenians
@Techpill
The reduced efficiency is for generic decisions like all religions or all non accepted, specific ones are the religious ones
If it's only a single religion it has the highest efficiency range

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Techpill
want me to click on shitty little islands
You just want me to get arthritis and eye strain.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@ZeroReborn
So if I killed all non accepted pops as Britain it'd kill 10%~ of Indians, but if I killed all Hindus it'd kill 40%?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@JunkTop
5 to 20 or 10 to 40 yeah

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Spazyfool
not magicwanding all of it and paintbrushing it in
Imagine being this much of a pleb.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Dreamworx
That's still just a quarter of the Armenians though, when 75% were killed in reality.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Poker_Star
TFW tech literate people work out you are retarded at painting maps.

farquit
farquit

@Carnalpleasure
It's really not hard. Do you have paint.net? Use the magic wand, shift + click the white parts and then paintbrush to fill them.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@farquit
I just used the paint bucket.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Dreamworx
He should just add specific culture groups to choose, such as the following:
"Slavs",
Russians, Poles and the like.
"Germanics",
Germans, Danes, Swedes, Norwegian, Boers.
"Mediterraneans",
French, Italian, Spanish, etcetera.
"WASPs",
British, Anglo-Canadian, Yankee, Dixie, Australian.
"Arabs",
Bedouin, Misri, Mashriqi.
"Turkics",
Turkish, Azerbaijanis, Turkomen, etcetera.

That way you could target specific groups rather than have to use the inefficient mass mode.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Rate my middle east.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Nojokur
That would be max 40% of all orthodox, not only armenians
though to be fair most armenians just ran away or were deported
ottomans have specific events for the armenian genocide
@viagrandad
He said he would do it through culture groups at some point
Though greeks and armenians are the same group

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@JunkTop
fucking based, that was much quicker than i thought it'd be

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

question for crusader kings 2

if I betroth my daughter matrilineally to someone else in my dynasty - when they marry will he come to my court or will she go to his?

Booteefool
Booteefool

@AwesomeTucker
Reminder to fuck Turkey up to get more aesthetic borders and cuck the eternal t*rk

WebTool
WebTool

@JunkTop
fucking quick, that was much baseder than i tought it'd be

Playboyize
Playboyize

Why is my army so terrible and why are Poland OP this game

King_Martha
King_Martha

@RumChicken
There's an event that gives it to the Senusi, who you can then annex.

idontknow
idontknow

@Playboyize
Poland are near peak hussar that time period I reckon. Your troops were already injured. Maybe you got bad terrain/general. Morale wins in the 1500s FYI.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Turns out that forcing a nation to give provinces back to an unciv counts for the purposes of those conquering techs. Not sure if this is useful information, but it is information I guess.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@happy_sad
You're kidding right?
Look at the vast spaces in Russia, India and China. Not only that, a lot of states were simplified with no logic backing it up. Look at Indonesia and Japan, so simplified it makes me want to puke.

FastChef
FastChef

Is playing outside of Europe a bad choice for your second, non tutorial playthrough? I tried playing as a muslim then a tribal nation and couldn't maintain anything.

idontknow
idontknow

@FastChef

.....What game?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@idontknow
You know...the one (wink wink nudge nudge)

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Sir_Gallonhead
Ahhhh... yes. Well you know what to do *winks with both eyes*

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

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BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Supergrass
AIYY YES! SPLENDID GOOD SIR
Thanks for the tip, dare I say *tips*
*winks with right eye then left then signaling S.O.S through the winks*
Thank you indeed.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@New_Cliche
lole
epic post!!

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@haveahappyday
It's not that it changes it intentionally so much as I think it adds too many new traits without checking their effects, or balancing them sufficiently against each other. For example, a feature which was recently added, I think, was a bonus/malus for a vassal's opinion of the previous liege. If a ruler dies with +100 opinion the vassal gets a +10 with their new liege; with +90 opinion it's +9, and so on down to -100 and -10. I like the system and I think it serves an important purpose, but when you look at a Muslim Sultanate and their opinion bonuses on piety and prestige (the only religion in the game to give opinion bonuses on both) and the likelihood that their rulers have the Sayyid trait in 867 and you get a recipe for extreme, and I think unrealistic, stability.

This may be something the HIP team balances on its own, and this might have also partially been a result of some of the game rules I was testing last time which resulted in fewer vassals with more titles to their names, but my point is merely that I've seen a problem with it before and I want to have tools to counteract it if it happens in this next test as well. And, frankly, from a realism standpoint I think the change needs to happen as well. Character, in a game about characters, needs to play a much more influential role on decisions and AI calculations of vulnerability and rebellion.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Crazy_Nice
this but unironically

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Why are islamic countrys so stable that they never fall apart

RumChicken
RumChicken

R-A-T-E

happy_sad
happy_sad

@RumChicken
did you change the colors?
italy and romania look strange
also i literally wretched looking at that bulgaria

cum2soon
cum2soon

so how do you get loads of immigrants in cwe?

pic unrelated

Flameblow
Flameblow

@BinaryMan
@Supergrass
I hope to God this is ironic

Nojokur
Nojokur

If I liberate the CSA now will they still get cores on West Virginia or Texas later? I don't really care about Texas because I was planning on giving that to Mexico, but without West Vriginia it just looks bizarre.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@RumChicken

Never did understand how people could stand playing Russia desu. Must be so annoying.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Need_TLC
What are the primary and accepted pops for Dual Monarchy? Actually, just post pops in general.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@GoogleCat
It's a good map if you want to quickly paint plans instead of painting the whole map
here's one just for that, happy painting laddo

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@cum2soon
By being a constitutional monarchy/republic and taking all the right reforms. It takes time to get immigration going though, since pops will prefer countries with their own minority far more.
Also most culture groups are streamlined, Latin Americans go to North and South America, Africans go to Europe, MENAns go to Europe, Southeast Asians go to MENA and Oceania, Oceanians go to Oceania, Europeans go to North America, Oceania and Europe, Neo Europeans go to North America and Oceania. East and South Asians just move wherever they feel like IIRC.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@LuckyDusty
Ugh, look at all these fucking spaces. Here's a REAL map.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@LuckyDusty
Fucking retard. Almost everything in that map is fine bar China, Korea, eastern Russia, India, Japan and Indonesia, and that's because some guy did literally everything bar China, Korea, eastern Russia, India and Japan like a year ago before giving up. Then this literal retard comes in and attempts to finish that guy's decent work in like 5 minutes.
this passive aggressiveness
laddo
Why am even talking to you honestly.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@whereismyname
north east US is Europe pop desnity
south is Africa tier
ah yes

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Supergrass
who hurt you user?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

I haven't played vicky in like half a year. Last game was federation of central america.

Give me your best country recs for a comfy roleplay game. Maybe Japan?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Stupidasole
austria is pretty comfy

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Stupidasole
i think he'll come to yours, since she's the dominant partner (assuming he's unlanded)

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Spamalot
I've never played France. Is she comfy or am I spending all game sitting down on Germany?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@cum2soon
france can be comfy, but it's hard to get a good ally in that position
also if you ally with Bavaria and Austria and immediately try to blob into Prussia you could stop them from the beginning, but you probably wouldn't get good borders like that

StonedTime
StonedTime

@BinaryMan
It'd be a good first step for some NATURAL BORDERS

RumChicken
RumChicken

@StonedTime
the only NATURAL BORDERS for france is ALL OF EUROPE

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@RumChicken
comfy

What about Spain? I tried to play them once and went with the Carlists but it was just rebellions all game and I got tired of it real quick.

Booteefool
Booteefool

HPM, this UI alert is annoying and will be actively difficult to deal with when colonisation comes around.
Can you add a "Enact a policy of colonial seperation" decision or something that makes the necessary bureaucrats needed to make a state 100%, so that you don't have to deal with this if you have no intention to make states please?

Also, if you can please add an ption to make overseas states into colonies, such as New England. I don't want them to have representation in parliament but as I conquered them as states I have no choice in the matter.

Also, thanks for adding territorial waters. It's a really fun mechanic that adds a lot to the game.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Why am i not getting the chrysanthemum throne achievement? I thought that you simply needed to form japan while starting as a daimyo, or do you have to conquer everything first, wtihout adopting shogunate (wich is impossible) and then form it for the achievement to be valid?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Booteefool
Wait territorial waters? I can't find that shit in the patch notes.

Inmate
Inmate

@CodeBuns
spain SOUNDS like it'd be comfy but it's really not
almost everything is more tedious and it's just harder to get good pop ratios
morocco is annoying and so is england
france gets in the way, no matter how many times you call daddy prussia to help you in a war
you can't expand into france without butt ugly borders
you can't really retake florida or do some meme shit with former colonies without a really fucking hard time

wouldn't really recommend it

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Need_TLC
I'm joking. I just drew the borders of the sea tiles with the battleplan editor to see if I could trick anyone into thinking it was real.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@VisualMaster
muh cheevos
kill yourself faggot
/r/catalog#s=paradoxplaza might have some advice for you

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@VisualMaster
you need more achievement mana

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Gigastrength
I've been gone for like 8 months my dude I would fall for anything. You could literally tell me that Stellaris is a good game now and I'd believe you before replying with "wrong thread".

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Harmless_Venom
Haha, very funny. But seriously, what have i missed?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@VisualMaster
You haven't got Okinawa.

Might need some of the other local islands, I forget. It'll be on the wiki. Nothing challenging, beyond maybe having to fight Korea...

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@iluvmen
/r/catalog#s=paradoxplaza

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@iluvmen
use your google search mana to find some help mana

Emberfire
Emberfire

@kizzmybutt
Oh, thanks.
Only problem now is that ryukyu is a tributary of ming, but there's obviously some way around that.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@GoogleCat
stellaris is a good game now

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@GoogleCat
Stellaris is actually a....mediocre...game now, if you don't expect replayability.

If you're bored, a playthrough is okay.

@Emberfire
Ah yes, new system will make that harder....okay forget Korea; fighting Ming, actual challenge ahoy.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

tfw getting a computer together so i can play M7T at a decent speed

im so god damn rich what the fuck

SniperWish
SniperWish

shame about poland

Booteefool
Booteefool

@PackManBrainlure
can't even hold shift and press 7 at the same time
you're rich, but at what cost?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@SniperWish
RIP Germany
also why does Czechoslovakia have Kattowice

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Business idea: a cold war/modern day mod for EU2

Illusionz
Illusionz

-1100 money & -2.5 off map money to help the Germans means we're in debt for a while
can't even say no

@Lunatick
No idea

Methshot
Methshot

@Illusionz
its very fun for an industrialization run. by the end of the game you can very easily be miles ahead the next industrial country

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Harmless_Venom
client opinion: biggest fuck you towards paradox

whereismyname
whereismyname

what the fuck are you doing austria

girlDog
girlDog

@whereismyname
support them
please

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@whereismyname
help them so they can form smol austria hungary

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@girlDog
@Poker_Star
They didn't need my help, they formed smol Austria-Hungary all by themselves

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@StrangeWizard
CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTE

askme
askme

@StrangeWizard
based as fuck
now they only need transcarpathia, pressburg, northern transylvania and slovenia to be the cutest empire ever

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@askme
I want to play this in vic2 now

TechHater
TechHater

@StrangeWizard
Link to this mod?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@StrangeWizard
what do you think, lads? questions/comments/concerns welcome

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@GoogleCat
You can't get ww2 northern transylvania in HPM

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Oh dog, Lenin just annexed Finland and toll a chunk out of east Prussia

@TechHater
https://mega.nz/#!3VcH3RJR!uKGw-PWJDUEHyImte5d2yoYhcoK3jPB2-o4YDpG40FA

askme
askme

@Nude_Bikergirl
That germany
Just no.

Evilember
Evilember

@askme
what's wrong with it? they get punished for losing two world wars but all german-speaking people are finally united so there is some consolation

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Spazyfool
Is this mod good? Does it have a lot of viable alternate history or is it memey in its decisions? Is it still being developed?

Last time I played a DH mod with a pre-1936 start everyone just wound up building assloads of industry at the start to the point that it was overwhelming by 1940. Does the same sort of thing happen in this mod?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Evilember
Would've been fine if they had those territories wich france took, but right now it just looks too vertical and ugly.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

So, ugh, looks like 54-40 or fight is never going to happen now.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@kizzmybutt
Speak of the devil.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@New_Cliche
This is why HPM is shit

UK gets cores on columbia
the whole fucking game USA is warring with england because of this
uk gets cores on new zealand so no maori release without you going to war over it every 5 years

hpm

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Deadlyinx
you can cheat it, but klein AHiums just doesn't look comfy
I need a comfy central euro country, but none are
I wish bohemia wasn't landlocked. I want to make a czech hong kong

DeathDog
DeathDog

Imagine unrionically being American.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@GoogleCat
Does this not look comfy to You?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

After Lenin's death, Bukharin takes control of the USSR

@w8t4u
no idea, this is my first time playing it

cum2soon
cum2soon

@CouchChiller
Now it does, I didn't changeowner all of Slovakia. I think i'd make that comfy-danubian-federationsiums.
I already started an Austria game where I was planning on either doing disgustingly gross danubiums or SGFiums with the proper capital (Wien not München, ok)

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

War! Place yer bets people!
meanwhile Poland has a failed anti-communist coup

Techpill
Techpill

colonial ottomans
Why is this allowed?

Skullbone
Skullbone

ah yes

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Evilember
Austrians don't want to be a part of germany, for starters. It's hwy they aren't part of germany IRL..

hairygrape
hairygrape

@BlogWobbles
Is it fun, at least? Is there a decent amount of flavor?

TechHater
TechHater

Austro-sloveniums
klein austria hungariums
Grandest duchy ever, starting austria coresium
Take your pick, ignore satellites

Booteefool
Booteefool

Austria-Hungary may not be smol any longer.
Meanwhile french elections are underway, do we pick the leftists, the rightists, or the meme?

@hairygrape
Seems to be a decent amount of events, plenty I've not shown

whereismyname
whereismyname

Oh for fucks sake.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Techpill
It's not actually that common....but yeah, almost anyone can colonize if they wanna spend the tech on unlocking it. Guess they did great vs Mameluks, coming via Red Sea...

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Nude_Bikergirl
make greece have albania as a puppet (use stirked lines to denote), make greece own macedonia

germany isn't groB enough
czechia isn't kleiN enough
neederland needs to own belgium

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Booteefool
There isn't a way to restore the Bonapartes that you've seen?

Methshot
Methshot

@cum2soon
62/33
wow

RavySnake
RavySnake

Meanwhile our new king is shit
@SniperWish
Not so far

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Can't decide if it is worth trying to save Austria or not.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@whereismyname
If they stay alive until January I can still save them. Trump can still win!

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

yeehaw

Soft_member
Soft_member

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_peUxE_BKcU

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Ah yes

RumChicken
RumChicken

what the fuck

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

whats the checksum with new 3.9.1 hpm?
im getting IWCK

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Playboyize
BY GAWD THEY'VE DONE IT TONIGHT LADIES AND GENTLEMENT THE GREATEST COMEBACK SINCE LAZARUS FOLKS AS GOD IS MY WITNESS THEY HAVE FOUGHT AND THEY HAVE WON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAKksqKR3pI

hairygrape
hairygrape

@haveahappyday
that's objectively untrue. Austria is constitutionally forbidden from joining Germany, which is why they haven't.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@TechHater
Mittelgermaniums

TechHater
TechHater

yeehaw ឴

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Spamalot
It's a good old fashioned gang bang!

Methshot
Methshot

ah yes the arsenal of monarchy

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Lord_Tryzalot
are you going to let mexico keep texas

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@RumChicken
what is the arsenal of monarchy

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Spamalot
Hell yeah.
The CSA don't even have cores on them.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@TechHater
Austro-Sloveniums (Wich is actually just Austria) + Trieste, Sopron and Pressburg

farquit
farquit

@RumChicken
Allons enfants de la Patrie,
Le jour de gloire est arrivé!

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Methshot
Reminder to ally Italy, Austria and Spain

hairygrape
hairygrape

@RumChicken
LA MERDE!

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@VisualMaster
out

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Sir_Gallonhead
ok

JunkTop
JunkTop

The Confederate Dominion.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

commies btfo

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

CK++ or HIP?

Inmate
Inmate

@StrangeWizard
HIP but its much slower

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Deadlyinx
jk stay i'll miss u

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Firespawn
y tho

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@StrangeWizard
Btfowned Pwned and BTFOed out

Inmate
Inmate

Stalin got mad & tried to launch a coup, he failed and got shot instead

idontknow
idontknow

victoria 2 isn't just a fantasy simulato-

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Is anybody else fucking unable to change provinces in CWE?
I've changed HPM's map a couple of times but this shit just keeps on crashing

happy_sad
happy_sad

@idontknow
Eternal reminder that this is completely plausible
Only butthurt Amerimutts will deny this

Evilember
Evilember

@AwesomeTucker
dunno, never tried to do that as I am not a cheater

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

They've now got cores on West Virginia so I'm going to liberate them soon.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Evilember
cheater
ummm... sorry swater i think you meant hacker ;)

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@JunkTop
that's not very yeehaw of you

iluvmen
iluvmen

The south of the country is fucked, and Mussolini stole some of the border regions

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Nude_Bikergirl
Finland not having the lands Russia stole from them

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@BinaryMan
Serves them right for trusting the British government.

askme
askme

@StrangeWizard
those division and army names
ah yes

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Anyone noticed how Scandinavia as a whole gets literally no immigrants through the whole game?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@iluvmen
based Mussolini reclaiming rightful Italian clay

5mileys
5mileys

@Spamalot
From this screenshot it seems like you don't even need to intervene

Techpill
Techpill

@iluvmen
Jesus fucking christ what a massive meme
Disgusting

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@takes2long
Please post download link for the new version with that comfy egypt

Firespawn
Firespawn

@eGremlin
they should have thought about that before losing two wars then

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Gigastrength
Is the plan to give SCA all their cores, then annex the USA bit by bit until you can wipe them off the map?
Are you genociding the Yanks?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Time to go full central planning

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Raving_Cute
Nigger You had to restore national manpower, pump those fucking babies out and get France's population to AT LEAST 100m

RumChicken
RumChicken

@eGremlin
Finland shouldn't exist.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@PackManBrainlure
Don't worry about it, we'll use the natives

Methshot
Methshot

@Soft_member
Am I the only one who thought this song was pretty dope?

inb4 someone says "it's the shit"

@RumChicken
playing the Vatnik mod
expecting not to get memed on

You chose this.

@JunkTop
I don't get why you don't just go full cheating and write decisions, events, and changeowner. This game sucks as it is, it's not going to be fun no matter how much you spice it up.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

The king is dead, should we keep the Natural order or give the people democracy?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

fucking epic

cum2soon
cum2soon

Could someone explain M&T to a brainlet. I tried it as switzerland, but failed to get my cores back. Is there a good country to play, where I can learn the basics of the mod?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Methshot
@Soft_member
The tune is good, but this shouldn't have to exist

loo poos

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Nude_Bikergirl
lets create lasting peace in europe by giving one power lots of its historical rivals territory but then also giving away territory to a historically weaker nation

hurr

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@StrangeWizard
Dude You just fought a massive war for the Monarchy, you HAVE to keep it

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Nude_Bikergirl
Bulgarian Italy
Swedish Greece
for what purpose

Snarelure
Snarelure

@cum2soon
Portugal's not too bad since as long as you buddy up Spain you'll never have any real land wars in Europe, but the Northern African nations still allow for some combat and conquering experience

Methnerd
Methnerd

Well this is interesting.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Illusionz
implying it's not greek sweden
implying it's not bulgarian italy

farquit
farquit

Say my good sirs, would anyone be interested in REMOVE KEBAB in this fine day?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Spamalot
italian bulgaria* sorry, i thought you would've gotten that one correct

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Methnerd
What the fuck is a socialist democracy anyway?
What's the difference from a normal democracy?

whereismyname
whereismyname

Austrians don't fuck around

JunkTop
JunkTop

@StrangeWizard
That horribly stretched image
Why is this allowed

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@whereismyname
Good, help them and bring Willy back to Germany

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Emberburn
workers own the means of production and the government has elections

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

New Thread
/vg/thread/192243046#p192243046
/vg/thread/192243046#p192243046
/vg/thread/192243046#p192243046
/vg/thread/192243046#p192243046

askme
askme

@Emberburn
You can only vote for commies, socialist, or some other party thats also lefty

askme
askme

@askme
No they didn't

iluvmen
iluvmen

@hairygrape
I thought that was the pre-ww2 constitution.

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