/fog/ - Fallout General

likme
likme

"There's a certain threshold from sexy but practical to outright stupid."
50's Sci-Fi Pinup Edition

Fallout 1 and 2
General Information etc:
http://pastebin.com/mtYCtDLV

Fallout 3 and New Vegas
General Information, Mod Recommendations & Run Ideas etc:
http://pastebin.com/u29WKkGy
Babbys first modding guide
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/fallout-new-vegas-sigourns-recommended-mods.114486/

Fallout 4
General Information, Mod Recommendations etc:
https://pastebin.com/2W7Dhy69

/fog/ Asset and Mod Repository
Steam Guide of good mods
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=752795517

GUNetwork
Rips (Primarily for NV):
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B45SllNAhiQscHhxR28tZ1FwNTA

How to Convert Skyrim / Oblivion / NV / FO3 etc. Models to FO4 & Bodyslide Guide:
http://pastebin.com/MWEPKj5m

Storyfag's imgur:
http://imgur.com/a/iNUlq

OP Pasta
https://pastebin.com/raw/dFMpLWAX

Pre-War thread: /vg/thread/192672464#p192672464

All urls found in this thread:
http://pastebin.com/mtYCtDLV
http://pastebin.com/u29WKkGy
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/fallout-new-vegas-sigourns-recommended-mods.114486/
https://pastebin.com/2W7Dhy69
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=752795517
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B45SllNAhiQscHhxR28tZ1FwNTA
http://pastebin.com/MWEPKj5m
http://imgur.com/a/iNUlq
https://pastebin.com/raw/dFMpLWAX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvGXCisAaR4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXHNWWgDuLk
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/editorials/interviews/7500-Feargus-Urquhart-Comes-Home
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Allistair_Tenpenny
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/5509/?
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=65413930
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=64192603
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/9441/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rK5UdhMyas&list=PLE528CEE228C0DBB7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipgx3xmzEaw&list=PLElczpoUwHC4jZXDF_3mp_iXgALiLHw-k
https://www.youtube.com/user/Seddon4494/playlists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t0uCWjQ6Og
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26302/?
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/24542/?
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/27402/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvGXCisAaR4
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/18809/?
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/16335/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=999RqGZatPs
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11278/?
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11621/?
Playboyize
Playboyize

Never thought a reporter could consider themselves a success until someone threatened their life. Me? I'm very successful.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Is your sole survivor in love with anyone user?

Emberfire
Emberfire

The next fallout game will take place in San Francisco due to the amount of references to it in Fallout 4. They did the same thing with Fallout 3 with the institute and the Commonwealth. It will come out in 2020.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@TreeEater
kill yourself

Methshot
Methshot

Kinda wish the Break Action Laser had a big stupid bayonet (And a more reasonable realistic one) so I could be a filthy weeaboo with it.

Evilember
Evilember

@Methshot
that seems like an excellent way to cut your dick and/or tits off

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Methshot
Open the breech
Right leg instantly crippled.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

that feel when obsidian will never make another fallout

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@BunnyJinx
They're working on a good looking game right now though

@Methshot
It opens and swings downward user

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Evilember
@TurtleCat
Only if you're literally retarded and open it directly at your legs. But yeah, it's dumb, I don't give a fuck though when the original game has shit as asinine as laser muskets holding their focusing lenses in place with tape.

cum2soon
cum2soon

QUICK! Do any of you lads have an of the pics of Pete Hines where he has that goofy ass smile but like........its extended as if where someone stuck their fingers in the edges of his mouth and....pulled?

Also BoS stronk. I should probably give this game another go if only to finish the DLC for once.

takes2long
takes2long

@cum2soon
this one?

(/vg/thread/192672464#p192811570)

TechHater
TechHater

@BunnyJinx
They're working on a good looking game right now though
what is it?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@TechHater
dreadfire. You get to be a pirate and customize your ship and your crew. Looks neat

@cum2soon

iluvmen
iluvmen

@BunnyJinx
desu bethesda's probably got a deal ready that they're keeping under their thumb for when TES 6 launches with hardcoded CC integration in an attempt to get rid of third-party modding that they don't profit on, or at least make it unfeasible

that way when it inevitably bombs, they get to reveal an obsidian fallout a month later and be the good guys again while not changing anything about the CC situation

but im just a paranoid misanthropic autist talking out of my ass

likme
likme

I NEED PICTURES.

PICTURES OF POWER ARMOR.

@Carnalpleasure
His face gets more punchable everytime I see it.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Theres so many weapon mods in this game

people adding in M14s
AKs
M4s

If I was only going add 1 new weapon, what should it be?
(why would I need multiple assault rifles?)

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Nude_Bikergirl
Defense Gun, as it effectively replaces the godawful pipe guns.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Haven't touched Fallout 4 for over a month so I can recharge and play a shit ton when I build my new computer today. I'm pretty excited. I'm ready to see the light.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@likme
there are people who don't protect their loved ones in the finest protection money (or scavenging) can buy

Methshot
Methshot

@Nude_Bikergirl
@Bidwell
I still halfway feel like dusting off the ol' 3dsmax and learning to mod for Fallout 4 just so I can make a replacer for the fucking pipe guns. But then I'd go full autism mode on it and make each receiver have a unique model, (which is something I don't even know is possible or not as I've never seen any mods that have that), and each part looking different enough to be distinct while still being "realistic".

I'd probably base them off this real life pipe gun's minimalist designs, with low tier receivers being rusty pipes and high end ones being well machined and painted ones like pic related being a .38 auto machine pipe pistol.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Methshot
The pipe guns are like stens.

Is there a mod to make pipe guns still somewhat useful at higher levels?

Just cause some guy is wearing plates of armour doesnt mean you still arent shooting bullets at him. Especially headshots with no helmet

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Lunatick
Yeah that's essentially what that gun is, an even more cut down sten made from hardware store parts. Ideally I'd like to have each receiver look unique, so while that pic could be an automatic .38 receiver something like a semi-auto one meant to be more accurate would use a sten's side loaded magazine.

In either case I'll likely never actually make the mod because my knowledge of modeling is near nonexistent (Only made some basic helmet 3d doodles) and I've literally never rigged or animated a model before, combined with the fact the Defense Gun effectively replaces pipes anyways.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Spamalot
so you cant have defence gun and pipe weapons at the same time?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Supergrass
You can, but the leveledlists seem to prefer putting in defense guns, which is fine with me because the less I have to look at those rusted metal and wood abortions the better.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@takes2long
@Carnalpleasure

Thanks Anons thats exactly what I was looking for more or less.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@StrangeWizard
pipe guns are comfy

i wish more of the game was spent in the pipe gun, leather armour mad max tier

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Flameblow
i wish more of the game was spent in the pipe gun, leather armour mad max tier
but thats the worst tier, and not only from a gameplay perspective but an aesthetics one as well

WebTool
WebTool

@Flameblow
While I don't mind the idea of pipe guns, (hence me considering making this mod in the first place), their "design" makes my inner /k/ sperg out to no end.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Emberfire
It wont.
West Coast is for Obsidian and Bethesda confirmed that multiple times.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Sharpcharm
implying The Howard gives a shit

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Sharpcharm
pathetic that you think theyll stand by that, bethcucks want more bethbucks its simple maths

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Emberburn
@SniperGod
I highly doubt Beth will ever try to tackle West Coast. Its too much to research lorewise with nothing too gain and too much to lose since even people who like both FNV and 4 may get pissed off at their butchering of true Fallout lore.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Nude_Bikergirl
implying The Howard or his cronies give even the modicum of a shit needed to research the lore short of getting cliff notes off wikis
They'll shit on it and then say fans are "entitled" for expecting them not to.
IT'S JUST A GAME BRO WHO CARES ABOUT SOME LORE LMAO

RumChicken
RumChicken

@w8t4u
this. this guy is delusional.

5mileys
5mileys

@RumChicken
I can see it now.
Legion are Orcs (And also super mutants now because lmao orcs)
Enclave are back again, showing how little they gave a shit about the whole NV Enclave questline
Followers of the Apocalypse are evil because they have an ominous name
NCR are the goodest boys
House is nonexistent
Brotherhood of Steel shows up again because lmao marketing

Emberfire
Emberfire

Is there a mod that removes damage bonuses from perks?

Why would my gun do more damage if someone else shoots it?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@w8t4u
Dude that is like exactly my point...

There are three groups of people.

Bethdrones who will swallow any shit Todd pulls - they would be okay with switching to WC.

Fans of both the FNV and F4 like me - i would never buy F5 if it butchered the WC lore the way Bethesda buitchers everything.

And hardcore fans of Obsidian Fallouts who will never buy F5 no matter what ESPECIALLY if they destroy WC lore.

So they simply risk too much money for no gain at all.

I hope you understand what im talking about.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Emberfire
why would it do more damage if you're quietly squatting in the dark?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvGXCisAaR4

Evilember
Evilember

@Emberburn
playing a stealth archer

Techpill
Techpill

@w8t4u
@happy_sad
Only a minority cares about the Lore m8. When they made Oblivion everyone was shitting the bed about how Cyrodiil wasn't a jungle and the architecutre too European but that doesn't stop the next entry of TES to sell better than ever, most importantly attracting people who never played a TES game before.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Techpill
Point is that they have nothing to GAIN from switching to WC.
They could only lose - namely those fans that liked both FNV and F4.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Gigastrength
I get your point. It would be a gamble, of course. On the one hand caching in on nostalgia is always a good bet, Hollywood has been feeding off of that forever. On the other hand it's going to piss off fans.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Gigastrength
They could only lose - namely those fans that liked both FNV and F4.
Lose like 5 people and gain hundreds of thousands more. Whew what a bad trade.

Are you pretending or something?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@SomethingNew
Lose like 5 people
Bullshit.

gain hundreds of thousands more.
What hunderds of thousands ?
From where ? How ? Why ?
Why would Bethesda of all companies suddenly get so much free goodwill from people that their product sales were by 50 % just because they switched to WC ?
WC matters for Fallout fans mostly and they
A : care about the lore
and
B : already have established opinion about Bethesda and its treatment of lore.

It would take a massive upgrade in quality for Beth writing staff to remedy that.

5mileys
5mileys

@PurpleCharger
Why would Bethesda of all companies suddenly get so much free goodwill from people that their product sales were by 50 % just because they switched to WC ?
The same way the broke sales records with Skyrim and then Fallout 4. Hype. Please stop being retarded and thinking people give any lick of shit about these games when they just play through them and sell them a week later for the next new thing.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@5mileys
Actually, disregard the "play through them" bit as the majority of gamers don't actually finish their games before trading it back in to Gamestop.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@WebTool
god everything about that piece of shit scares me
the little thin tab that holds the bolt, the complete lack of a magazine, the fact that it's an automatic housed in a piece of rotting wood

at least the revolvers are conceivable. it's pretty hard to fuck up a wheelgun

eGremlin
eGremlin

@5mileys
The same way the broke sales records with Skyrim and then Fallout 4. Hype.

Yes but where are those thousands of new players come from ?
Why would suddenly switching to WC caused NEW players to flock to Fallout ?
What would WC do, that previous Fallouts havent done to attract that much more people to it ?
Are CODers suddenly all care about WC ?
Whay would WC F5 attract more people than F4 with its hypemachine ?

Like the @Harmless_Venom
said
its would be a risky gamble : discourage those gamers you already have in a very unprobable attempt to bring new along.
And by very unprobable i mean :
Its not switching formula into more braindead FPS appraoch, its not making it MMO or shit like that, its simply changing a place where your game action takes place.

farquit
farquit

@Stupidasole
Yea the bolt action pipes and and revolver pipes are believable. Hell I could make one in a garage and I have no idea what I'm doing. But no fucking way should they have automatic pipe guns. I think semi-auto pipe guns are a huge stretch even just because it would be impossible to do the machining

SniperGod
SniperGod

I dont play a lot of vidya anymore. I have Fallout 4 on PS4 though. What're some tips to get the most enjoyment out of it?

Im a NV fag so I recognise that this game is pretty flawed. I dont wanna do survival because its too tedious and I dont wanna waste too much time

Playboyize
Playboyize

@eGremlin
its simply changing a place where your game action takes place.
Exactly. Which is why the overwhelming majority of people won't care. It'll just be another decade of NMA and /v/ screeching about "reeee Bethesda"

Yes but where are those thousands of new players come from ?
As I already said. Hype. Games sell on hype. This is why Bethesda has broken sales records with each new game with the majority of their player base having never played an older titles in the series. Shit we frequently see "I just finished 4, should I play any others in the series" here already and you really think people are only going buy a WC FO5 if they've played 1 or 2? That's straight delusional.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@SniperGod
getting a bethesda game for a sony console

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@SniperGod
I dont wanna waste too much time
can't help you

the only way to get juice out of this game is to invest, either be a sperglord settlement architect or a masochistic survival crawler. Default game is looty shooty garbage

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@SniperGod
I don't frequent Bethesda.net but isn't PS4 modding pretty much barren?

I suppose my best advise to you is don't try to keep a clear Questlog or anything. You'll always have unfinished Quest in your Log because the game always throws shit at you nonstop including neverending Radiant quests.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Playboyize
Yes but the question is how big are those groups of people.
From what i have seen group that liked both FNV and F4 is pretty numerous, who knows how would they act is Beth released their F5 in a completely butchered WC.

Skyrim had hype because muh dragons, its hard to imagine upping up wow factor in a game that already had armies of Super Mutants, big giant robot with death lasers etc.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Are there any mods that replace those god-awful pipe rifle scopes? Anything other than iron sights/recon scopes are completely unusable.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Emberburn

He's got NYC, Pittsburgh and Toronto. Why risk preventing a future Obsidian Fallout game (as unlikely as that is) when he doesn't gain much out of it? Keeping it on the east coast lets Beth keep their nu-lore in house without any problems.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Habby birthday.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@MPmaster
I pray for a Ronto game with another Pitt dlc. Gimme that fucking snow, Todd. Hardcore mode where I need fire to live.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Burnblaze
Im still amazed how good that game was despite Bethesda shitty engine, criminaly short dev time and multitude of problems Bethfaggots did during development.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Firespawn
Oh boy, it's the obshittian hour

Techpill
Techpill

@Burnblaze
Lucky #7

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Burnblaze
7 years ago
Damn son. I was still in school.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Burnblaze
Man, it feels like it released yesterday.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Soft_member
Oh boy, its bethshiill excuses hour.
Fuck off.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@StonedTime
How long before you get called a /v/ermin by the other guy, I wonder.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Supergrass
One - two post tops.
Probably the moment actual facts start to come up.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Emberburn
He does. They wanted to do fallout 3 on west coast, but then decided to do their own thing.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Ranger Combat Armor and Patrol Armor dude from last thread here, I followed the one anon's advice and dicked around with nifskope and was able to remove the neck clipping on the combat armors by deleting some shit that was its own contained thing, so thanks. Unfortunately the patrol armor's waterskin tin thing is part of the entire upper body mesh so I have no idea how to seperate that from the rest of it, but the clipping on the combat armor was the big killer. Thanks a ton, mate.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Burnblaze
Play it again, Johny Guitar.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Burnblaze
2070 players ingame currently. Pretty good. Fallout 4 only has about 6x that amount. Yeah, only.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Burnblaze

I remember buying this on launch day.

That very night I was standing atop the Goodsprings cemetery shooting all those Radscorpions in that valley trying to level up quickly. While listening to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXHNWWgDuLk

Jeez, such a wave of nostalgia. I wonder why Bethesda won't just remake it in FO4's engine, they'd make tons of cash. I'm still upset that I lost all my old NV screenshots. ;_;

Lunatick
Lunatick

Anyone know of a fo4 mod that enter/exit workbenches instantly?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Carnalpleasure
I'm still upset that I lost all my old NV screenshots
I used to have a habit of deleting screenshots and saves I didn't use anymore, still regret it. I HOPE I still have my original saves on PS3.

I bought NV on PS3 day 1 and then got a PC years later. Between the PS3 not saving play time and all the time undocumented by Steam because I used NVSE, I've easily got thousands of hours in NV.

Soft_member
Soft_member

But why didn't they stick his head jar on top of a robobrain or other robot. Or put tv monitor in front of his head and gave him controls to tele-operate a robot.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Soft_member
because lol walt disney references bro! lol!!

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Cucksworth is dead, say hello to Chadsworth.

Man that Automatron expansion is fun.

@Carnalpleasure
Obligatory
my feet hurt
comment.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Fallout 4 is so comfy

@Harmless_Venom
Damn, Codsword looks like THAT?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Harmless_Venom
Chadsworth.

I just burst out laughing as I imagined Stephen Russell doing a voice for a posh English robot impersonating some insufferable meathead quarterback beer pong champion.

askme
askme

Welp, if Fallout Miami fails I hope they at least release the resources.

Inmate
Inmate

@Need_TLC
LET'S GO GET A 'BREWSKI', MASTER

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Nojokur
First wasteland building you run into is a giant canine penis innuendo
It's where you recruit your dog companion

What is this, Grand Theft Auto?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@askme
It needs more Neon

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Inmate
LET US 'BOUNCE' SHALL WE, 'SENPAI'?

Lunatick
Lunatick

The gunplay on FO4 (and also FO3 and NV) is so shit I never bothered playing in first person. Why is Bethesda so bad at animating games?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Supergrass
Those innuendos are very immersion breaking and make games look silly.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@LuckyDusty
It needs raiders on rollerblades.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Supergrass
Bethesda is known for their innuendos.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Lunatick
I never bothered playing in first person.

Don't you mean 3rd person? The first person mode in Gamebryo games may suffer from some mouse acceleration (NV) or game-breaking mouse acceleration (FO4) but at least it isn't as bad as the 3rd person mode where every animation lags your every move. Just try jumping around a bunch of narrow beams in NV or Skyrim in 3rd person and compare it to 1st. It's like night and day. There's like a quarter second delay in every action when the game has to take body animations into account.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@happy_sad
So where have you been?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Booteefool
Working. Though damned if all those Morrowind mods that were made recently aren't making me itch to do something there again.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Deadlyinx
On the off chance you're actually Trainwiz, thoughts on the moving rail carts in Nukaworld?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Bidwell
They use a physics helper, which is unfortunately too specific to be applied elsewhere.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Raving_Cute
Nah the animation in first person is just plain shit. It looks bland and solid, it's not dynamic like in other games. Hell, even GTA V has better first person.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Emberfire
The next Fallout game will either take place in Ronto or the Broken Banks, since those are the other two wasteland areas on the East Coast that were mentioned as being on par with The Commonwealth and the Capital Wasteland.

farquit
farquit

@Nojokur
It can with Automatron modifications.
Ada can look awesome too.

@Need_TLC
Good one.

@Supergrass
First wasteland building you run into is a giant canine penis innuendo
It's where you recruit your dog companion

What is this, Grand Theft Auto?>>

Since when Red Rocket is a dog penis innuendo ?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Raving_Cute
mouse acceleration (NV) or game-breaking mouse acceleration (FO4
Where the fuck are people getting these mouse acceleration issues from?

Having played Fallout 3, NV, and 4, without doing anything to modify MA, they all played exactly like every other game, just fucking fine.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Sharpcharm
actually obsidean wanted to do a fallout game in another west coast city but bethesda denied them the opertunity, saying they had plans there. Hence they ended up going with nevada.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Bidwell
On the off chance you're actually Trainwiz

He's in these threads all the time.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Emberburn
I was about to ask the same thing.
Especially that "game breaking" mouse acceleration in F4...

cum2soon
cum2soon

@GoogleCat
They did no such thing you massive retard.

Feargus Urqueheart said they went to Bethesda with the Fallout NEw Vegas propsal, Bethesda said it was ok, and said they couldn't do two things
1. They couldn't set the game between Fallout 2 and 3 because they don't allow prequels
2. They couldn't mention a certain city(Boston)

Both of which Urquheart said had zero impact on the game itself

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@likme
Would you play a hybrid game of Grand theft auto and Fallout?
It can be whatever versions you want, isometric and 2d, 3d style and fallout 4, HD and new vegas.

I'm not speaking literal I mean the elements of the games and themes were blended together, it doesn't even have to be a Fallout title by name, it could just be similar.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@cum2soon
1. They couldn't set the game between Fallout 2 and 3 because they don't allow prequels
But why? It's not like game set in Vegas could somehow break east coast lore

Inmate
Inmate

@CodeBuns
I wish someone made Fallout tactics 2 :/
harebrained schemes maybe?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Need_TLC
But why?
Because they just don't.

Its like the radio music restriction they have where they told Sawyer he couldn't use a Sinatra song he wanted to use because it was made after Nov 22, 1963(the day JFK was shot)

Firespawn
Firespawn

@BlogWobbles
That helmet looks retarded, those goggles look even more retarded with that helmet, they are meant for magnification and welding right?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Firespawn
Not him but yes, those are welding goggles

likme
likme

@cum2soon
For anyone who wants the source
www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/editorials/interviews/7500-Feargus-Urquhart-Comes-Home.2

We all played Fallout 3 to death. One, because we wanted to, two, because we needed to really understand it. So we really wanted to understand what they were trying to accomplish and what their vision was. And then we followed up with questions. We haven't asked a ton, but things get run by Todd Howard all the time. The amount of conflict that has existed - like "Why can't we do this?" "Well you just can't," - it's been like four things. A lot of it has to do with that they have ideas for the future and so they just don't want us to go playing with where they see their future.

This is similar to what happened with the Star Wars stuff. One of the first things we wanted to do with KOTOR was we wanted to use Alderaan and LucasFilm came back with "No." So it's a collection of that, it's the knowing and the asking of important questions and being upfront with them about everything we're doing. We over-document everything. We're like "Here." And they're like "Stop writing."

TE: Can you give any examples of the four or so things you weren't able to do?

FU: In some cases, it's pretty minor stuff. For one of them, we were thinking of a certain city and they said "We want to reserve that for something we want to do." It didn't really hurt what we were doing at all.

We [also] talked a lot about when it should occur in the timeline. Originally, we thought that it didn't take place after Fallout 3 and that it took place between Fallout 2 and Fallout 3. When Bethesda thinks about their worlds, they always want to be pressing forward. So every game just moves the timeline forward. That's one of the things they said "No," and that's why it takes place years after Fallout 3.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@CodeBuns
You mean like a Fallout game where the movement, driving and terrain isn't a jagged asshole full of glass and gravel?

Sounds great!

I don't get how bethesda in the year 2016 still can't make smooth land, and give that land a proper mesh so it isn't like you are walking on pyramids the whole time.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@viagrandad
Facts
M-m-muh tampering/sabotage despite Obsidian never putting out a single polished title in over a decade
Ignores that people literally could not get the game to even start on release and quite a few still can't
B-b-but Bethesda! Reeee!
lmao
I-i'm not a meme spewing /v/ermin!
Facts!

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Carnalpleasure
I don't get how bethesda in the year 2016 still can't make smooth land
I don't know where you live, but land is not normally smooth by any measure unless you live in the great plains

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Carnalpleasure
The movement and environmental interaction in Rockstar games is top-notch. It actually feels like you're walking around in that world instead of sliding across the ground.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@cum2soon
because they don't allow prequels
I do like how new vegas isn't a prequel, it turned out well, but they are going to need to do prequels if they want to keep things looking like they did in Fallout 3, where everything is simple grey and hopeless.
@RumChicken
What about the elvis songs? I think they should be able to get any song they can afford as long as it fits and matches the theme, hell they could get tool, talking heads, and circle jerks songs if they wanted to for all I care, I mean talking head would be weird, but tool and circle jerk could totally be retconned to be some underground bands in the 2060s or some raider songs like in nuka world, played by "friendly" raidens in some grungy bar/strip club.

I could really see a post war raider punk band being a thing that could spice up the soundtrack.

idontknow
idontknow

@TreeEater
it took him 3 hours to come with that pathetic response

Bethdrones ladies and gents..

SniperGod
SniperGod

@idontknow
What do you want. I just woke up.
It matches the quality of the post it's in response to.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Deadlyinx
Smooth
Flat
What, have you ever seen a watermelon cut in half? imagine that melon is a hill, that is smooth. Bethesda games are like a block of low quality steel in a messed up polygon shape.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@SomethingNew
but they are going to need to do prequels if they want to keep things looking like they did in Fallout 3, where everything is simple grey and hopeless.
No, they aren't. Fallout take place in the 1950's scifi b-movie cliche version of post-nuclear war, where everything was shown to be fucked forever. And unlike Interplay/Obsidian, they didn't write themselves into a narrative corner by having any sort of large nation come into play, and making everything better for huge swaths of land. They could have a game set in Ronto, The Broken Banks, Chicago, Miami, New Orleans, one of the big Texas cities, and never run into the problem of thing being that good.

What about the elvis songs?
Elvis songs are some of the most singularly expensive songs to license in all of music. IIRC, Obsidian said they tried to get an Elvis song for New Vegas, but were told it was so expensive they could either get the song, or make the game. One Elvis song costs more then most of the music on the radio stations combined.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Burnblaze
Freakin amazballs, its been that long huh?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@5mileys
Followers of the Apocalypse are evil scientists who worship the nuclear bomb, and want to surgically turn people into mutants to cause a new apocalypse.
I could see it now!

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@TalkBomber
started watching Al six years ago
Holy fuck do I feel old. I was still in high school.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Firespawn
The guy has been dead for decades and his songs are older than a lot of peoples parents, some grandparents I imagine.

He can't be that famous, how much is a beatles song, people use those all the time, and what about covers?

SniperGod
SniperGod

Is there even one good F4 lp beside Sorcerers Dave ?
Every cunt i find is either some meme filled dumbass, plays on console, plays vanilla shit like that ...

Techpill
Techpill

@haveahappyday
The people who own Elvis's song library ask for huge amounts to use the, even covers are super expensive because you still need the rights for the song in general.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@cum2soon
YES THEY DID, RETARD

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/editorials/interviews/7500-Feargus-Urquhart-Comes-Home

TE: Can you give any examples of the four or so things you weren't able to do?

FU: In some cases, it's pretty minor stuff. For one of them, we were thinking of a certain city and they said "We want to reserve that for something we want to do." It didn't really hurt what we were doing at all.

we were thinking of a certain city
they said no
"We want to reserve that for something we want to do"

B T F O

w8t4u
w8t4u

@whereismyname
YES THEY DID, RETARD
I posted that right
@likme
And it doesn't say what you think it says

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Firespawn
I didn't mean because some big faction showed up, I mean people in general and landscapes tend to get better over time, like boston would be doing great if it wasn't for the institute's synths and their super mutants.

Most of california is pretty good for being after a nuclear apocalypse, but the BOS are also a huge faction in the east coast. The west coast isn't just one state, I think seattle would be cool

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Snarelure
I mean people in general and landscapes tend to get better over time
No they do not, not in 1950's B-movies.

Most of california is pretty good for being after a nuclear apocalypse
That's because it barely got hit, the only major targets were LA, and San Fran, and one nuke on West-Tek

, but the BOS are also a huge faction in the east coast
No they aren't. According to the Brotherhood Registry system used in Fallout 4, the BoS only has about 500 people in it(not counting squires) by the time of Fallout 4. At max, they have 999 people.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@w8t4u
the implication that the city was Boston, despite obsidian having the WEST coast is ridiculous. It was obviously a west coast city that beth have decided is off limits

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Snarelure
The west coast isn't just one state
No but
-Both L.A. and San Fran are part of the NCR
-Salt Lake City was leveled during the war(as told in HH)
-Denver is so overrun with dogs not even the Legion's armies could actually take the city
-We are told Phoenix and Tuscon were nothing but shitty slums, so clogs with raiders one oculdn't even trade two miles down the road, before the Legion came. And now they are just small slums part of the Legion since the Legion never did anything to expand civilian life.

Literally, the only major city of note left on the entire west coast we haven't heard about is Seattle, and that was supposed to be where the Fallout MMO by Interplay was going to take place before Interplay fumbled that project.

And who really wants
Fallout: New Hipster

King_Martha
King_Martha

@SomethingNew
Tool
No that would be dumb, when is tool ever mentioned in fallout, why their music fit in?
Talking heads
No way will you ever get a 80s Fallout, Fallout is purely a 50s themed game.
Circle jerks
Punk music is like from the 90s or whatever not 50s or 60s

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@TreeEater
He was wrong about it being Boston, It was actually Seattle because Interplay was making the Fallout MMO at the time, and it was set there

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Evil_kitten
soooo... New orleans then?

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Emberburn
Bethesda letting Obsidian out of their containment zone
Nope.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Firespawn
Who said anything about obsidian?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

/fog/ is much friendlier than /sg/

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@viagrandad
Implying Bethesda cares about Avellone
Bigger nope. They already got his Fallout bible, hes worthless to them now.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Evil_kitten
I want Fallout: New Hipster
You wouldn't want to explore a irradiated blizzard wrathed, wildlife infested partially flooded or iced over futuristic city, with makeshift bridges on the skyscrapers above.
Seattle seems better than old boston where most of the buildings are too old to have that Fallout art deco gothic aesthetic applied to it

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@farquit
Since when Red Rocket is a dog penis innuendo ?
It is at least in the USA and Canada.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Harmless_Venom
blizzard
It would literally be as much of a blizzard as in Skyrim, since 99% of people don't want to have to deal with heavy, sight obscuring, snow.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Raving_Cute
Steal the bible to profit off of it for the rest of the future
Just like those filthy romans!

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Emberburn
It wouldn't be constant, but people enjoyed it in places like the Pitt, The long 15 divide, and sierra mist.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@SniperGod
The Pitt had nothing to obscure your view, neither did the Long 15, the the cloud was one of the singular most complained about featured of DM

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@JunkTop
That is because people are lazy casuals who don't want to have to think before they walk into somewhere, not because they couldn't see through it.
Dust/fog was constant in those other locations, what do you mean?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

But in all honesty, Bethesda can stay tackling only Eastern U.S. cities from now until we are like 70, and not run out.

There is no reason for them to go out west.

idontknow
idontknow

I'm having a problem getting NMM to do anything at all and I'm at the end of my rope, here. Attempting to load or download any mod causes a crash, with the tracelog giving
Could not load file or assembly 'System.ServiceModel, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089' or one of its dependencies. The module was expected to contain an assembly manifest.
Googling this just leads to people who have the same problem and received no help.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@StrangeWizard
what do you mean?
What do YOU mean...

I replayed both the Pitt and LR not too long ago, and neither of them had anything beyond a very loose scattering of particles in the air that did nothing to obscure the player's view any further then the vanilla game did.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Raving_Cute
working for prey
its in good terms with TODD
wants to write TES and Fallout
loves MK and hates EMIL

user hes already from the house

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Burnblaze
working for prey
Totally different company
its in good terms with TODD
He's never met Todd.
wants to write TES and Fallout
Avellone writing TES would be terrible.
loves MK and hates EMIL
He hates neither, and has no fondness for either as well.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

thank goodness that the Colorado is on the Death ranger of Yellowstone, because the general IQ there honors the jokes that south park does it

From Drags Fo4 Power armor port thread on GUN, Page 2
I have been waiting for this for a long time. Will be installing once TTW v3 comes out.
Also, I don't own F4, nor will I ever. I do not see a reason to waste money on a game I will never play... unless TTW somehow adds F4 to the mix.
Said Poster is a Furfag from tumblr
Really, i may not like of some of bethesda's bullshits with Fo4 but this is utterly retarded, but then his profile already delivered his Autism.

@ZeroReborn
Not him
Totally different company
which is owned by Zenimax and Bethesda
He's never met Todd.
its lies, he met it and he knows them.
Avellone writing TES would be terrible.
Bullshit because he interested to do something for TES
He hates neither, and has no fondness for either as well.
He criticized Emil once and he compared with morrowind when Kirkbride and Todd worked on it

now please stop sperging around and go back to your containment /v/ board

WebTool
WebTool

How transatlantic travel would work in postapocalypse?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@TreeEater
No, but my Courier is in love with money.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Harmless_Venom
which is owned by Zenimax and Bethesda
Which is a different Bethesda, which people seem to forget.

Zenimax is the parent company that owns Bethesda Softworks.

Bethesda Softworks is a publishing company that publishes the games made by the other companies Zenimax owns.

These companies include Tango Gameworks, Machine Games, Znimax Online, Id, and Bethesda Game Studios.

Being involved with Bethesda Softworks =/= being involved with Bethesda Game Studios.

its lies, he met it and he knows them.
[citation neeeded]
Bullshit because he interested to do something for TES
I never said he wasn't. I said him writing for TES would be terrible, not that he has no desire to do it.
He criticized Emil once and he compared with morrowind when Kirkbride and Todd worked on it
[citation needed]

Also
MUH /v? BOGGEYMAN!
Holy fuck what a child

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@WebTool
By boat, like it did before the apocalypse, and before modern pre-war society.

farquit
farquit

@Nude_Bikergirl
Why is it so rare then?

5mileys
5mileys

@farquit
It isn't.

Tenpenny, Moriarty, and most NPCs in Fallout 3 and 4 with obvious accents are implied to be foreign immigrants.

Both Tenpenny and Moriarty were outright confirmed to be such.

Inmate
Inmate

Fuck Steam, and fuck auto-updates.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@farquit
@5mileys
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Allistair_Tenpenny
Allistair Tenpenny came to the Capital Wasteland from Great Britain to seek his fortune, so that alone tells you that the U.K. was also hit in the war. And if he came to U.S. to succeed, that says a lot about how screwed up Europe must be. So we just allude, a little bit, to the state of the rest of the world. We like to leave a lot to the players' imaginations, and somebody like Tenpenny serves as a catalyst for those thoughts." — Emil Pagliarulo
and somebody like Tenpenny
Aka, an obvious not-American with an obviously foreign accent

Supergrass
Supergrass

Fuck Bethesda, fuck this garbage company and fuck these garbage games.
Yet again I fell for the meme, invested 20+ hours into a Fallout game only to start getting frequent crashes and see the game become slowly unplayable. It's the worst fucking blueball. Fucking piece of shit lets you play just long enough to get warmed up to the game and start to enjoy it, and then it takes it away because it's a broken trash that inevitably bloats/corrupts your savegames no matter what.
I swear to fucking god I will never touch another bethesda game ever again.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Supergrass
Works on my machine m8.

Fallout 4 especially, over 1,000 hours, and only 3 CTDs, two of which were caused by mods, the third was just an actual CTD

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@CouchChiller
@5mileys
2 npc's
not rare
I would imagine regular transatlantic travel would create big coastal hubs made by foreigners. One englishmen and one irishmen didn't sail all my themselves, did they?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@5mileys
and most NPCs in Fallout 3 and 4 with obvious accents are implied to be foreign immigrants.
This isn't true at all

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Stupidasole
one englishmen and one irishmen didn't sail all my themselves, did they?
Dukov, the Bobrov bothers, Cait's parents, Doctor Amari, etc. etc.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Nojokur
See
@CouchChiller
Bethesda has said people like Tenpenny, are made to show that foreign nationals do cross the ocean.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Supergrass
Actually in my experience, F4 is the most stable bethesda game to date ...
Are you sure you are not doing something wrong ?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Sir_Gallonhead
Yes, nice anecdote with 1 NPC. Now explain Cait and Bobrovs

Lunatick
Lunatick

@RumChicken
Dukov, the Bobrov bothers, Cait's parents, Doctor Amari, etc. etc.
[citation needed]

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@iluvmen
Now explain Cait and Bobrovs
Explain what? The Bobrovs could have sailed over just like Dukov.

Cait's parents were likely immigrants themselves.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

All these Nexus mods that either improve poor balance, improve quality or outright fix glitches / dangerous bad coding in CC mods that people pay for

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Sharpcharm
Can you be an immigrant if there's no country left?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Sharpcharm
could have
likely

RavySnake
RavySnake

@GoogleCat
its just shills

@StonedTime

Sawyer fuck off, you shouldn't be fucking the Trannies of East Compton BTW?

Playboyize
Playboyize

@kizzmybutt
The whole point of giving them accents was to show they are immigrants, and so they would have to avoid outright telling you because it was otherwise obvious.

@Boy_vs_Girl
People still see themselves as "Americans" despite the fact the USA is gone, I wouldn't be surprised if such nationalism still existed in the rest of the world.

farquit
farquit

@RavySnake
its just shills
Shills for waht exactly ?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@RavySnake
Anything in that post
Sawyer related
what?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Lunatick
@Methshot
The pipe guns are like stens.
The PPS-43 is almost literally a pipe gun. It's much simpler than any SMG ever produced at mass scale, and can be made at home. You can tweak some parts for more rough and handmade looks and that's it.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

How are you celebrating New Vegas's birthday?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@ZeroReborn
Playing F4 while listening to FNV lets plays and speedruns.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@JunkTop
1503021345440.jpg
it hurts. fucking engine limitations

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Sharpcharm
fucking engine limitations
Literally nothing in that series couldn't be done in-engine

We got 90% of that in-game anyways

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Sharpcharm
All they had to do was to make CGI/live actors cutscene of that ..

@Carnalpleasure
And it looks like shit, all stiff and with few custom animations.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@JunkTop
Even in the storyboard Nate and the baby are exposed to high levels of radiation to show off le epic blast wave
Fucking stupid ass piece of shit.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@w8t4u
all stiff and with few custom animations.
What about it was stiff again? and why would you need custom animations of shit that is literally normal actions one would see in the rest of the game?

TechHater
TechHater

@Sir_Gallonhead
Even in the storyboard Nate and the baby are exposed to high levels of radiation
Except they aren't. Hence why you get no rads from it

Flameblow
Flameblow

@TechHater
Exactly my point. It's fucking stupid.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Flameblow
Except it was established all the way back in Fallout 12 hat nukes were heavily altered to become more tactical, which is why places like L.A and San Fran survived the war, and most of them are radiation free. The radiation of the bombs was directed into a small area directly around the direct impact zone of the bombs.

Methnerd
Methnerd

what would make a good alternative start?
what principles should it be based on?
I was thinking something which is most versatile and least imposing
The issue I found with fallout 4's, 3's and somewhat 1's and new vegas, is that you have a pretty hefty goal given to you
and you lack an excuse not to persue it.
in fallout 4, it's your son, so ofc you're gonna want to go for them
in fallout 3, it's your dad, so ofc you're gonna want to go for them
in fallout 1, it's a water chip and your vaults life is at stake, so ofc you're gonna want to save the vault
now in new vegas, it's a revenge plot, but I guess it's arguable that you don't want to go immediately hunt down your would-be murderer as soon as you have healed. but honestly I think the implication is that you are compelled to hunt down your would-be killer.

So idk, I want to craft something less imposing than forcing the players hand in how they should handle a situation.

Maybe something like
momentarily wake up in a cryo chamber
witness someone elses senpai get shot and baby kidnapped
refrozen

this I think gives you the complete freedom to not give a damn about that random family but also if you wish it could lead to a murder mystery following similar beats to fallout 3/4.

thoughts?

massdebater
massdebater

@Methnerd
and somewhat 1's and new vegas, is that you have a pretty hefty goal given to you
and you lack an excuse not to persue it.
No good RPG would give you a goal that you would feel the ability to not pursue was valid.

If it did, then the goal isn't worthwhile, and the plot is trivial, and you just undermine the importance of everything the player does as a result

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Crazy_Nice
Nigga it's a fucking blast wave. The radiation is carried and blankets the area on the force of the explosion which near knocks everyone on their ass. Fukushima's plutonium radiation could be found in the wind in California.

You're literally exposed to high levels of radiation for a stupid blast wave sequence and given the all clear. Shit is fucking dumb.

inb4 d-don't apply realism to FO because muh fiddys it's all a joke despite Rad Storms existing which shows rads can be blown by the wind even in this universe

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Gigastrength
Rad storms are the result of a rare high yield bomb going off. The nuke we see in the intro isn't a high yield bomb.

WebTool
WebTool

@massdebater
and you lack an excuse not to persue it.

New Vegas lacks an excuse not to pursuit Benny ?
Maybe i am a sleazy mobster who is thankfull to god that i lived and DONT want to go after a guy who almost killed me ?
Or maybe i got amnesia ?
Or dozens of other excuses to blow the plot off.

@Methnerd
Starter Me Up frankly had the best idea ( albeit heavily limited by the hardcoded shit, voice protag etc ).
You are a random guy/girl who stumbles into a V111, find Nora body and audio log of Kellogs kidnapping Shaun and then you go off to DC to find someone who you can report this dissapearence. And it gradualy becomes personal with Institute, synth kidnappings, BoS arrival etc.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@WebTool
New Vegas lacks an excuse not to pursuit Benny ?
That was supposed to be greentext from the post I quoted.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@MPmaster
This doesn't stop radiation from traveling via wind ya dingus.

Methshot
Methshot

@WebTool
Or maybe i got amnesia ?
Avellone outright confirmed that the Courier does not have amnesia, at all.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Stark_Naked
Oh yeah, sorry i didnt see it.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@massdebater
No good RPG would give you a goal that you would feel the ability to not pursue was valid.
then why is it so easy to fob off the quests in fallout 3 and 4?
these are pretty important and urgent yet most ignore it as soon as possible

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Ignoramus
Never said it did, the point was, that the radiation from the nuke we see into the intro was concentrated into the are around the blast, and wouldn't have been blown the like 20 miles it is from Downtown Boston to Sanctuary

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Methshot
Yeah and i still had the option to ask people about stuff like NCR, Legion, Strip etc so i can roleplay amnesiac with ease.

Unlike in 4.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@WebTool
Starter Me Up frankly had the best idea ( albeit heavily limited by the hardcoded shit, voice protag etc ).
You are a random guy/girl who stumbles into a V111, find Nora body and audio log of Kellogs kidnapping Shaun and then you go off to DC to find someone who you can report this dissapearence. And it gradualy becomes personal with Institute, synth kidnappings, BoS arrival etc.
yh, I took notes from it but it ignores life before that moment, you just sort of wake up in a field somewhere, if I make it you were one of the cryo-fags, it has an excuse as to why you weren't' doing shit before

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@BunnyJinx
then why is it so easy to fob off the quests in fallout 3 and 4?
Because most people who do always excuse it with some dumb argument like
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO FEEL SYMPATHY FOR OTHER PEOPLE!? I'M TOO COOL FOR DAT!
Aka, shitty try hard arguments some 12 year old would make to make themselves look "cool"

People who aren't 12, or trying to act like it, actually do it. I recall many people back when Fallout 3 came out talking about how they saved all the side quests and shit for right before the MQ was over, because they felt like they should be looking for their dad and doing the MQ shit.

Fallout 4 wasn't much different. The only people I've ever seen regularly try to push the idea that its easy to ignore it are people on /v/, or here on Veeky Forums

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@hairygrape
so i can roleplay amnesiac with ease.
Sure, if you ignore the actual context behind why you are asking those questions, as well as ignore word of god statements, aka, go full on headcanon mode

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@StrangeWizard
you're joking right?
this has to be bait

cum2soon
cum2soon

@hairygrape
Well thats the best we can do for F4.

@StrangeWizard
Aka, shitty try hard arguments some 12 year old would make to make themselves look "cool"

Bullshit.
Its not edgy to not care about people you met good old 5 minutes before they are killed.
You can feel sorry or sad but its not this heartbreaking catastrophe if you are a normal adjusted human being.

I cared about Ciri in Witcher 3 not because im some superior empathic guy but because I KNEW HER. She seems like a real person to me with her fears, dreams, past experiences etc.
I dont care about Nate/Nora because i dont know the single thing about them apart from "married with a kid and not a complete psycho" thing.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@cum2soon
Its not edgy to not care about people you met good old 5 minutes before they are killed.
Literally most mediums, be it novels, tv shows, movies, and even vidya, rely on this sort of storytelling specifically BECAUSE most humans have enough empathy to care about the suffering of others, even if its people they don't know, or barely met.

but because I KNEW HER
No you didn't. You get less then an hour's time in those short playable segments before you find her. and even then, those only show up much later after you already started looking for her

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Has anyone tried the new version of Drag's FO4 PA port yet? The previous version was hilariously pathetic looking. But the Book of Steel compatibility edition just updated, too. And I want to play For the Enclave with an actual energy weapons build, but making it work with the FO4 PA would involve my own shitty retexture based on their shitty retexture.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@whereismyname
Yes and radiation doesn't just stay in one area. It can travel via wind or water. You're exposed to and hit by a nuclear blast and it's silly that you're clean.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Sir_Gallonhead
you can use any FO4 texture

like this one

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/5509/?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Nude_Bikergirl
but because I KNEW HER
No you didn't. You get less then an hour's time in those short playable segments before you find her. and even then, those only show up much later after you already started looking for her

Yeah and five fucking books before that...

happy_sad
happy_sad

@eGremlin
Well shit, that makes this so much easier, thanks.

@BunnyJinx
If you were, then most of the rest of Bethesda's hastily tacked together series of justifications for events would fall apart.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Harmless_Venom
Yeah and five fucking books before that...
Most of which were only translated after the games came out, unless your a slavshit

massdebater
massdebater

@Nude_Bikergirl
Literally most mediums, be it novels, tv shows, movies, and even vidya, rely on this sort of storytelling specifically BECAUSE most humans have enough empathy to care about the suffering of others, even if its people they don't know, or barely met

Hence why i said i can be sad or little uncomfortable but its hardly a heart shattering event.
Especially when Nora has five sentences tops before getting offed by Kellog.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@StonedTime
Nice non argument you faggot.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

is morality in a world like fallouts a complete joke?
where rape and murder are down ever alley, around every corner, should bethesda drop the morality shtick?

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Fuzzy_Logic
where rape and murder are down ever alley, around every corner,
not in toddout

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Fuzzy_Logic
should bethesda drop the morality shtick?
You mean like they did in 4?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@happy_sad
then most of the rest of Bethesda's hastily tacked together series of justifications for events would fall apart.
When doesn't it. Seriously.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Carnalpleasure
So, if you and your child are irradiated, why would the Institute bother with kidnapping if the sole reason was to have someone who hasn't been irradiated? If Shaun didn't get kidnapped, then no one releases you from cryosleep.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@King_Martha
wait they did? lmao i didn't even notice.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Crazy_Nice
Because you didn't get irradiated, because its been lore since the first game that nukes were tactical, and dropped radiation in a small area, not all over the place.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Methnerd
Vocational professionalism, and desire for answers to why, seem more motivation than revenge for the Courier. Nothing in the opening seems Benny or the Khans had personal beef with the Courier beforehand.

@StrangeWizard
Getting out of Vault 101 and coming into contact with the wide open world, it's reasonable to assume the LW would be out of their element; Wasteland Survival Guide and Blood Ties are great early-game quests to get the LW acclimated to the wasteland in order to actually find their father and be useful when they do. The flow and pacing is seamless (especially when you recognize FO3's story construct is a straight copy of FO1). Not to mention a very plausible motivation for the LW is anger at their father for disrupting their lives and the vault in the first place, enough so the LW decided "screw dad" and adapt or lash out at the wasteland they are now forced to call home.

While a lingering ambition to find their father, at the very least just for answers of why he did it, will always nag at the LW, but there is plenty of other motivations that can remove any percieved urgency in the FO3 main quest. The MQ even has two decent vague objective walls for that: getting cockblocked by Moriarty at the start, and then after finding Li and learning about Project Purity (as Dad being at Braun's vault is always given vague directions to it). Once you complete Tranquility Lane, yeah at that point the MQ does put you on rails through the Enclave resurgence and flight to the Citadel, but before that it's very open as far as urgency and LW motivations.

Obviously FO4 is a bit harder to put off the search for Shaun, but I think the distraction of saving the Minutemen and restoring Sanctuary is reasonable. The SS may be concerned and unsure of the timescale, and there are a lot of blanks in finding Shaun, so it's sensible for them to be on the cautious side (of course you can argue a "rawr wheres mah boy" impulsive vengeance-seeking SS works too).

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@DeathDog
Well there's still Bethesda's usual overbearing 'you should really be a good guy' thing, but there's no Karma system any more.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Emberburn
Read the post I was replying to. They're saying you should have gotten irradiated. I'm saying if you got irradiated (which you did not), the plot would've fallen apart.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Fried_Sushi
I know, I was tacking on to you post by showing why they didn't get irradiated, as per lore.

5mileys
5mileys

I'm having so much fun just playing a trigger happy space marine.
None will be spared.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Crazy_Nice
How would the Institute know they were irradiated? Obviously at the start any exposure was minimal enough that the Vault-Tec staff didn't worry about it, so why would that be marked in any data the Institute would have about the SS?

Methshot
Methshot

@New_Cliche
Gotcha.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Can't remember if it was on one of Al's weekly videos or someone else but does anyone know the name of the mod where if you have more than one follower and one gets downed they can revive each other? I dunno if that was the only feature.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@GoogleCat
there are remnants of it. imo, not completely gone

RumChicken
RumChicken

@CodeBuns
Forgot to say but it was for fallout 4

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Emberburn
We've been over that already. Radiation isn't some viscous liquid that sticks to an area it can and does move. We're even shown this ingame with radstorms.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Spamalot
We're even shown this ingame with radstorms.
And you ignore the fact that the only reason radstorms happen, as stated in-game, is because of the mass concentration of radiation from the high yield nuke that created the glowing sea, a concentration of radiation that did not exist on the smaller yield bomb that hit south of downtown, which is the one whose shockwave hit us at the beginning.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@CodeBuns
And this doesn't stop the fact that radiation can move via wind. That is the entire point. And again, we're shown it behaves realistically with a storm that carries it. The yield does not matter as your body is still bombarded by massive amounts of radiation in a shit sequence, all that matters is that it was carried.

Good lord why is this general full of fucking brainlets.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@w8t4u
And again, we're shown it behaves realistically with a storm that carries it.
Only when the concentration reaches a high enough level.

As we see in Fallout 1, 2, Tactics, 3, NV, and 4, radiation don't blow in the wind from even many larger impact sites, it just stagnates there.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Lord_Tryzalot
They don't have that feature because it's a new mechanic added to the game. Might as well say weapon mods are lorebreaking because 1, 2, Tactics and 3 never had them.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

raider chatter designed to make you feel bad
butchered corpses litter their bases anyway

Do Raiders deserve any sympathy?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@BunnyJinx
The women deserve a good raping before a bullet in the head. Or after, your choice.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Snarelure
Except NPCs mention modding weapons in earlier games.

And Fallout 4 does have the mechanic, and, as we see in Fallout 4, radiation only blows in from the Glowing Sea, while all other concentrations of radiation do not blow ever.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@viagrandad
Yes, and this doesn't stop the fact that it can move via wind. We covered that already.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Fuzzy_Logic
Those around you being immoral is not sufficient reason for you to do the same.

If everyone drops morality because "everyone else is doing it" then there won't be anyone left being moral.

Be the change you want to be user!

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@TurtleCat
And this doesn't change the fact it can only move via wind in high enough concentrations. We covered that already

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Sir_Gallonhead
It doesn't need to be in a high concentration to move. The rad storms happen when fallout is swept into the area of the commonwealth by atmospheric pressure. There doesn't need to be any build up for it to happen as it's an abstraction meant to look cool and nothing more.

5mileys
5mileys

@PurpleCharger
no, I men the system the game uses to judge morality.
ofc the player should be free to play however they damn well please.

cum2soon
cum2soon

DO IT AGAIN MR BURKE!

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Crazy_Nice
It doesn't need to be in a high concentration to move.
Yes it does, hence why only the Glowing sea can create this problem.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@PurpleCharger
If everyone drops morality because "everyone else is doing it"
But that's exactly why people follow moral codes in the first place and why new laws are still made to this day to keep people in line.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Fuzzy_Logic
fallout universe
morals

vault-tec questions how such an alien arrived in this world with such questions.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Lord_Tryzalot
user we've been trying to figure out why anyone is moral for millennia and have yet to come to a conclusive answer

you're not going to find it by posting in a video game thread

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Crazy_Nice
nukes were heavily altered to become more tactical
most of them are radiation free
That doesn't make any sense though. Lesser yield fission = more radiation, especially if it's the big nuke converted to "tactical" one. Efficient high-yield fusion is much cleaner.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Raving_Cute
No they drop their radiation in a smaller area

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@BunnyJinx
Even as a bleeding heart goody-two-shoes I'm pretty unsympathetic towards raiders, and it has to do with choice.

They could easily pick up a shovel and plant some crops, as they see lots of other people doing, but they choose not to and they choose to take the easy route and wave a gun around and take what other people made.

Even nazi soldiers had officers and politicians saying they would be shot/imprisoned for not following orders, and they had years of propaganda molding the way they thought and saw the world. Raiders have neither of these extenuating circumstance surrounding their choices.

Every raider is welcome and even encouraged to join my settlements, and I got Piper to make flyers and stuff saying everyone is welcome and if you don't like being a raider you're welcome to just show up at any of my settlements, where they'll be given good food and water and beds and, most importantly, friends.

But if they want to be raiders then my robo army will fight them.

@Lord_Tryzalot
Laws are missing in this sense. Or at least a reliable way to enforce them. For some people, morality comes from within and has nothing to do with laws or consequences at all.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Methnerd
No they don't. Fallout is always spreading over a large area, ask anyone around Chernobyl (which was an extremely compact explosion, but also released a huge amount of material into atmosphere). Fission bombs are less efficient, especially if the yield has been lowered and only a part of the bomb actually explodes. The only way to make nuclear weapons somewhat cleaner is to burn all the plutonium so there's nothing left after the explosion, and that's only possible in large fusion nukes.

girlDog
girlDog

a non contradictory fallout lore

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Boy_vs_Girl
ask anyone around Chernobyl
BUT MUH REAL WORLD!
Go
DIE
In
A
Fire

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Crawl out through the fallout, baby
You know what I mean
Crawl out through the fallout
'Cause they said this bomb was clean

RavySnake
RavySnake

@BunnyJinx

tfw you will never be able to be a raider

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Sir_Gallonhead
WE FOUND OUT

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

ywn play fallout 3 for the first time again

Emberburn
Emberburn

@lostmypassword
That feel when exiting the vault, coming out on that outcropping, as the light first blinds you, then you slowly gain the ability to see, seeing the Washington monument in the background

PURE KINO

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Nojokur
With a Geiger-counter in my hand

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Nude_Bikergirl
Rads realistically blown by weather system
B-b-but realism!

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Supergrass
its another "anon blames dev for his shit pc" episode

Supergrass
Supergrass

@CodeBuns
realistically
Except they aren't.

cum2soon
cum2soon

for New Vegas is Sigourn's guide better than the Fear & Loathing guide?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@SomethingNew
what? fallout 3 and nv have direct moral systems dude. did you even play them?
"you gained karma" or "you've lost karma" are a big part of your actions.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@lostmypassword
i do feel that feel but i'm also grateful that better games have put into perspective how bad Fo3 was especially at release before the DLC and patches

Playboyize
Playboyize

@lostmypassword
tfw have recently been doing exactly that
didn't get into fallout until they released new vegas
have been haing mad fun
looking forward to playing the DLC's too.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@BlogWobbles
? yes i have and i was responding to anons point about morals in fallout universe or the lack of

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Sir_Gallonhead
I never had much problems with Fallout 3 at release.

Even now, the only problems I have are from the game not being made for quad cores, so the game CTds like mad unless you go into the .ini and tell it to only use 2

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@BlogWobbles
did that even do anything important other than determine whether good guy bounty hunters or bad guy bounty hunters attacked you?

w8t4u
w8t4u

@eGremlin
well I am that user. I asked if that system was pointless and you claimed there was no such system.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@GoogleCat
I never had much problems with Fallout 3 at release.
remember when you had to go into the water purifier guaranteeing your death even if you had a ghoul or super mutant companion with you

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@w8t4u
you claimed there was no such system.
except i didn't

i said there are no morals in the fallout universe

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Emberburn
That was probably the only high point of the overworld in Fallout 3 desu.

massdebater
massdebater

The Cambridge area is very comfy

DeathDog
DeathDog

@MPmaster
You mean do I recall you having to go into a purifier because a Zen Buddhist, and a sane person with basic self preservation instincts, didn't want to go into something that could very likely explode and kill them? Yes.

While I am glad they extended the ending with Broken Steel, Fawkes and Charon going into the purfier really made no fucking sense, and was a terrible point where they caved into idiots demands.

Firespawn
Firespawn

trees
in the yellow sea

wouldn't they have been uprooted rather than a little bent as if a gust of wind blew them ?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@whereismyname
The mall, Tenpenny Tower, most of downtown D.C., Paradise Falls, was all fun.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Firespawn
the trees near the impact crater sure , which is why they are, the ones on the edge of the shock wave? no

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Leonard Boyarsky and Tim Cain are working on a secret project at obsidian right now.

What are the chances its fallout related? Fuck I'd be happy if it was another VTMB since paradox owns white wolf now. Boyarsky has called it his dream project.

@BlogWobbles
Wasn't Cait a raider at one point though? Even If it's not stated in game I imagine she ran with a few gangs before arriving at the combat zone.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Crazy_Nice
Wasn't Cait a raider at one point though?
raider cumrag

Skullbone
Skullbone

@kizzmybutt
As much as I prefer NV I do wish there was some area like the mall.

maybe I'll try out that warzones mod for NV next run.

girlDog
girlDog

@Crazy_Nice
What are the chances its fallout related?
Literally zero. Obsidian isn't going to make another Fallout game ever, they burned all their bridges with basically every single company they have ever worked with, and Avellone has said, most everyone at Obsidian jumped ship after New Vegas because management is garbage.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Crazy_Nice
What are the chances its fallout related?
Absolute 0

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Crazy_Nice
none, zero, nil, zich, nada

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Ive read that CC broke a shitload of mods, is it true?
have most of the damage been repaired already or did bethesda fuck it irreversibly??

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Stark_Naked
The only thing CC broke are the like 5 mods that needed F4SE, and F4SE has already been updated.

The only people who claimed it broken "a shitload" of mods are idiots who think you need F4Se for every single mod

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@King_Martha
Punk music is like from the 90s or whatever not 50s or 60s
I know this is Veeky Forums but only a twelve year old could say something this foolish. Punk music started in the fucking 60s.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@girlDog
@Flameblow
@King_Martha
Y-Yamero

What about another Vampire game?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Deadlyinx
Not him, but most classifications put punk music as starting in the early 70's

Skullbone
Skullbone

@VisualMaster
Who cares at this point? After Tyranny, another Vampire game from Obsidian would just be massive SJW shit.

Remember, almost everyone who worked on New Vegas left or got fired when Obsidian dropped like 3 other projects that they couldn't support. The only person left of note from NV are Cuck Sawyer,

girlDog
girlDog

@Crazy_Nice
At 18 she was sold to raiders as a slave. A couple years of that, plus an unknown but relatively short amount of time at the combat zone between 18 and when you meet her.

She has negative things to say about raiders, so I'm not sure she really became one fully. It seems like she was more of an independent living among them.

But whether she was a raider or not, she's not now, and that's what I'm trying to get more people to do. Cait is an example of a person picking themselves up out of the muck life put them in and that's one of the reasons she's so important in my opinion.

Inmate
Inmate

@Skullbone
how is sawyer a cuck?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@CodeBuns
@RumChicken
Hm that sounds familiar. If only we can somehow search for mods. Maybe if we can use the keywords of the mod you are looking for, and use some kind of search engine to locate it.

Inmate
Inmate

@cum2soon
Sigourn's guide is a close-to-vanilla guide that is current to today's mods.

Fear and Loathing is an old guide with the usual done to death mod recs that is updated over time.

I would recommend Sigourn's guide, and it shouldn't need to be said but I guess no one reads the sticky.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Set Timescale to 1.
Yes or No ?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Inmate
Because if I call him a cuck and throw SJW into my sentences, you'll be tricked into hating a game company. D-did I trick you?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Inmate
He lets black guys fuck his girlfriend.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Inmate
it's /vpol/ buzzword for "thing i don't like and/or disagree with"

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@BlogWobbles
Courier x Money is the ultimate FO OTP.

@TreeEater
Not really.

Cait remains a bitch even after detox
Piper strikes him as obnoxious
Curie feels like he'd be molesting a child (made worse with the whole 'all gen 3 syths are your grandchildren)
ADA is for Codsworth
He's not gay
Scribe Haylen, Kazumi Nakano, and The Mechanist are non-romanceable

My SS will lounge in radiation pools just to let his sex drives die on the outside as much as they have on the inside.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Stupidasole
So you're splitting hairs between my 60's placement and your early 70s placement instead of replying to him telling him he was off by nearly 3 decades?

While the Ramones are generally seen as the "beginning" there was a decade of build up to that. It's like when people say Sugar Hill Gang created rap even though the (stolen) rhymes in the song were weak even back then compared to actual rappers from the Bronx.

Methshot
Methshot

@Inmate
Play Tyranny, its full of forced lesbian relationships, women talking about prolapsing a guy's ass, a super special elite group of female warriors who can learn any move a man can 10times faster because they are just THAT much better then everyone else, one of the companions' bios reads like bad furry fan fiction

SniperWish
SniperWish

@AwesomeTucker
No. You'll break your AI.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

name 1 enb

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Stark_Naked
Hard Mode
It cant be a shit ENB

Supergrass
Supergrass

@SniperWish
In what sense ?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@kizzmybutt
proctor ingram and talia mcgovern are non romanceable

RavySnake
RavySnake

@SomethingNew
Not possible. All ENBs are shit.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@RavySnake
T. Tryhard wannabe artist faggot

askme
askme

@Illusionz
The fuck?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Stark_Naked
@SomethingNew
subtle

Soft_member
Soft_member

@GoogleCat
If only the next Fallout used RAGE, I'd have more faith in it's stability. I can play GTA V all day and get zero crashes even when going into Director mode and blowing up fucktons of cars at once..

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Supergrass
AI pathing and scheduling works off the timescale global. Setting it too low means they it doesn't process, and NPCs won't execute AI packages.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Soft_member
The RAGE engine was fucking garbage though.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@eGremlin
So what is the lowest possible that is safe to use ?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Burnblaze
Try 10 to start with.

massdebater
massdebater

@PackManBrainlure
Seriously, my sole survivor is 10 int, half-Japanese cowboy, greaser roboticist.

How is he supposed to find love when the only three four women he can bed down with is just a few steps above a raider, a reporter who never read a dictionary to grasp what journalism actually is, a robobrain, and a girl who, while intelligent is... Very childlike in an unsettling way.

"I thought your name was fucking Curie, not Lolita."

Shit, you can't even get good intellectual action if you join the Institute.

@Supergrass
it'll ruin their schedulings and so forth as i recall.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@massdebater
Childlike
undesirable

Full pleb

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Stupidasole
Funny i used 1 for a long time and didnt saw any problems... ditto in Skyrim.

massdebater
massdebater

@Dreamworx
what

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@cum2soon
It's not the case in Skyrim, it is here. The low timescale caused no end of problems when debugging Maxwell's World.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

no Texas fallout
no Texas Ranger faction on horses
no mexican faction
no shootouts and showdowns in rural texan towns
no quest where you save a damsel from the train tracks
no quest called "manifest destiny" because fallout games have clever quest titles
no saloon where you can play a piano while people gamble
no gambling minigames like in Red Dead Redemption
no character the resembles Taft and is the leader of the texas rangers

Skullbone
Skullbone

@TalkBomber
Well i hewrd the same thing about Skyrim ...

TechHater
TechHater

@Sir_Gallonhead
on horses
Horses are extinct user, as are mules, and donkeys

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Sir_Gallonhead
amused by the thought of a bunch of post-apocalypse texans still doing border patrol

viagrandad
viagrandad

@TechHater
No

eGremlin
eGremlin

The Creation Kit wiki says when you scrap an object, the navmesh triangles it was standing on are enabled. Does it mean that when you place a buildable object the engine disables the navmesh it occupies in real time?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@viagrandad
They are though, this has been woprd of goded through the series, and even Bethesda has confirmed it once or twice since they took over.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@eGremlin
Not that user but related- does that mean it disables the entire navmesh tri or just part of it? So if I'm navmeshing a settlement should I make it a whole bunch of smaller tris to make placing objects less likely to confuse AI?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@PurpleCharger
it could be canon but it's probably one of those things where it was only written in because it was too difficult to include them in the engine or they just didn't want to.
like when Bethesda didn't want to make Oblivion take place in a jungle so they lore'd "then god made Cyrodiil not a jungle anymore" and added it to Skyrim.

Inmate
Inmate

no hawaii fallout
no faction that reverse a dormant volcano because they interpreted the old seismic activity warnings as referring to a powerful god who was sleeping

no mississippi fallout
no riverboat faction
no mississippi accent ghouls
no gambling riverboat city
no radgators

no louisana fallout
no voodoo ghouls
no Baron Samhedi to appear and be an important npc
no radcrawfish

no georgia fallout
no faction that interprets the wanton consumerism of the coca-cola corporation as a religion
no mountain hillbilly faction
no hillbilly ghouls
no beautiful vistas of the georgia mountains

no florida fallout
no gator-wrestler npc
no spanish conquistador faction who are based in Saint Petersburg fort

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Inmate
coca-cola corporation

StonedTime
StonedTime

@RumChicken
Actually, they got rid of the cyrodiil jungle because the heart of a vast multi-culteral empire being a single city located in the middle of endless jungle made no sense.

It had nothing to do with the engine, it had to do with the lore from TES1: Arena making no sense, and Bethesda trying to think of an interesting way to change it to have it make sense.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@RumChicken
and added it to Skyrim.
Not him, but this wasn't "added" to Skyrim, it was stated back in Oblivion itself.

Mankar Camoran's Commentaries in Oblivion mention that Tiber Septim CHIMed the jungles of Cyrodiil.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Inmate
kill yourself

Methnerd
Methnerd

Is f4se working with current version of f4 ? if not how do i stop the update ?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@StonedTime
Actually, Cyrodiil was already retconned into having other cities (Anvil, Kvatch, Sutch and Skingrad) in the First Edition of the Pocket Guide. The jungle retcon came later.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Lunatick
It was a series of retcons to make the stupid portrayal of Cyrodiil in TES1 less stupid.

Cyrodiil itself is a province of nothing but retcons through TES's history.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@AwesomeTucker
URAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANIUM FEVER

Illusionz
Illusionz

I need help with archive invalidation for NV.

I have the .bsa file placed in Data folder and all 3 ini files have been modified so that sArchiveList includes it. In MO's archives tab the .bsa is at the top of the list, above Textures.bsa. I have no clue why it won't work because everything seems to be in place. I've noticed that if I disable the option Have MO manage archives, the archiveindalidationinvalidated.bsa is suddenly unchecked.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Illusionz
nmm

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Illusionz
type 3

WebTool
WebTool

do people actually play with pilgrim
i cant see fucking anything

happy_sad
happy_sad

@RumChicken
reading comprehension

@Garbage Can Lid
I know there's other bodies but it's beside the point at the moment. Wouldn't they have the same problem?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Methnerd
bump

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@StonedTime
the heart of a vast multi-culteral empire being a single city located in the middle of endless jungle made no sense.
instead it's a city inhabited by like 13 NPCs in the middle of a shitty forest

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@PurpleCharger
They are though, this has been woprd of goded through the series
Except it hasn't. You're told by like 1 NPC which is an unreliable narrator especially when you tell them horse milk is a big thing among tribals. We also see in the All Roads comic that the NCR uses horses.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@ZeroReborn
instead it's a city inhabited by like 13 NPC
There is well over 100.

I like these memes though

Firespawn
Firespawn

@ZeroReborn
instead it's a city inhabited by like 13 NPCs
but thats fallout 4

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@happy_sad
failing this hard at simple modding

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Gigastrength
Avellone point blank stated in the Fallout Bible that all horses, mules, and donkeys are extinct. He also said the mule in Fallout 1 was considered an error by the Fallout team, and he has gone on to say in post-NV interviews that they deliberately removed mentions of horses from several NPCs, such as Raul, because they didn't want to imply that horses still existed.

He also confirmed that the horses in the All Road comic were a mistake only noticed too late, and are not canon.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Illusionz
go on youtube
search up "how to mod new vegas"
spend more than two Ritalin soaked seconds watching a few of them
succeed at something in your life

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Nojokur
Well, I'm sorry, some of us prefer 'nee-sans' to 'imoutos'

Or just generally women on a more even level of wordliness.

@Inmate
No Japan!Fallout where we see in Fallout-verse, after world war II efforts were made to heavily Americanize Japan
No finding a surviving Enclave Cell that continued the experiments of Unit 371 and even applied them to some Vaults
No encountering the remnants of China trying to take over Japan
No countering the First Ghoul: the survivor of both Hiroshima and Nagasaki
No super-sized deathclaw that breathes atomic fire and you have to fight in a giant "power armor"

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Crazy_Nice
@w8t4u
Cool memes. It worked just fine with Fallout Mod Manager years ago and I have absolutely no problems when modding Skyrim to hell and back with MO. But this one fucking thing doesn't work here and I tried every piece of advice I found on the internet. If you have no solution to this problem then just fuck off with your sass because you're no better than me.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Deadlyinx
This is either bait or the maddest I've seen some faggot be in years.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Nojokur
Too bad; so sad. If they care that little about getting their lore right then it doesn't really matter.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@TalkBomber
If they care that little about getting their lore right
The only real error was in the All Roads comic, which they didn't draw.

askme
askme

@SniperGod
The fact I'm swearing does not immediately mean I'm mad.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@askme
I'm not mad

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Nojokur
The comic isn't just magically drawn and handed over. It's concepted, storyboarded, written then finally drawn and pages are overseen by an editor. With all these checks in place one can only assume they didn't care much until a fan called them out and they checked their wikia.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Methshot
I have played it, although Tyranny wasn't sawyers project though, that was the b-team who made stick of truth.

As for Verse, I think that was some weird magic power bullshit she had and never knew about. Not saying it's good though but it wasn't just some she was that good she could pick up their moves as far as I remember.

I'll give you kills in shadows though. She was fucking trash.

idontknow
idontknow

@Spazyfool
It's concepted, storyboarded, written then finally drawn and pages are overseen by an editor.
None of which had any relation to Obsidian.

You know, its like those PRIMA game guides, how they are always full of shit PRIMA just made up.

You really don't seem to understand how third party materials get developed.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@idontknow
None of which had any relation to Obsidian.
See now this is really fucking stupid because it's the job of the lead writer to check over shit like this. That's quite literally his fucking job.

Simply put they didn't care.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Raving_Cute
The leader writer of NV only is the lead writer of what is in the game, not what gets put into third party materials like comics, and game guides.

Like, where the fuck did you even come across the notion it was his job?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Deadlyinx
just fuck off with your sass because you're no better than me.
spoonfeed me NOW!
You are so assblasted lmao

TreeEater
TreeEater

@iluvmen
have problem
ask for help
children who can't read (see @RumChicken
) just meme

I just want an on-topic answer or simple "I don't know"
somehow this means I feel entitled and I want to be spoonfed
I seriously hope this is just one retard who is replying to me.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@TreeEater
somehow this means I feel entitled and I want to be spoonfed
I just want an on-topic answer or simple "I don't know"
I just want an on-topic answer
I just want
I want

Inmate
Inmate

@Sir_Gallonhead
Do you have a source or any more of that comic, caitfag?

massdebater
massdebater

What did they mean by this?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Nude_Bikergirl
I'm fine with an "I don't know answer" or hell, even no answer instead of dumb replies that are off-topic
want to be spoonfed
Every post you make is somehow more retarded than the previous one but seeing you ignore any logic and your lack of ability to follow a very basic conversation is pretty entertaining.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Beat FO4 vanilla no mods when it first comes out
Ages later
Reinstall on new machine
Gonna download some mods and play the fuck out of this shit over the weekend
Find out ATT is doing some work on their lines n shit
My internet is gonna be out for 3-4 days

Well fuck me with a stick.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Flameblow
I just want an on-topic answer or simple "I don't know"
I just want an on-topic answer
I just want a simple "I don't know"
I just want
I want
spoonfeed
Every post you make is somehow more retarded than the previous one but seeing you ignore any logic and your lack of ability to follow a very basic conversation is pretty entertaining.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@StrangeWizard
sue them for psychological damage

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@RumChicken
That weapon is going to give me a fucking aneurysm.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Booteefool
The leader writer of NV only is the lead writer of what is in the game
No, no they;re not. They oversee all writing done which includes checking in on commissioned work being used as promo material.

Like, where the fuck did you even come across the notion it was his job?
Literally every other lead writer working in the same fashion to avoid situations exactly like this.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

hey fog
I'm finally upgrading my rig, so I'm playing FO4 soon
I don't have any of the DLCs however. should I wait for them to go on sale, buy them all and THEN start a playthrough? or do they actually not make much of a difference (aside from obviously quest dlcs that add entirely new worldspaces, quests and whatnot)?

can I just start a playthrough, let the save sit there for a while, then buy the dlc and continue that save later on with the dlc installed, for instance?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Evil_kitten
Holy shit you actually made me laugh with this one. At any rate, you shouldn't be using words you don't understand but let me explain in a little more detail why you are retarded.

I already said, I tried to find a solution on the internet by saying
I tried every piece of advice I found on the internet
This alone means I don't want to be just spoonfed information. But wait! There is more! You should be old enough to understand that generally if you pose a question that is not a rethorical question you "want" an answer. This does not mean that you want to be spoonfed because wanting to be spoonfed means you feel entitled to get information from others without putting in any effort. Your defitnition seems to omit this fact which means you have no idea what the words mean and YET you use it.

Now you will say that I am mad or assblasted which is predictable and silly. This whole thing was worth the effort just for the laugh I got thanks to you, my little dumb user.

And don't even try to call me dumb animeposter, you fag.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Emberburn
he doesn't want a leech on his dick

FastChef
FastChef

@LuckyDusty
I tried every piece of advice I found on the internet
:^)
mental gymnastics to justify his entitlement
:^)
Now you will say that I am mad or assblasted which is predictable and silly. This whole thing was worth the effort just for the laugh I got thanks to you, my little dumb user.

5mileys
5mileys

@LuckyDusty
And don't even try to call me dumb animeposter, you fag.
Ah good, jobs done for me. Now kys.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Deadlyinx
Not trying to meme you but have you considered going to reddit to get actual help instead of getting shitpost responses

Evilember
Evilember

@Inmate
just 2 panels.

https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=65413930

he has a few comics

https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=64192603

TechHater
TechHater

@FastChef
@5mileys
So it was more than one person! You two should get together and attend some classes : ^)

@Raving_Cute
I don't want to make an account just for that and generally the threads about this problem end with same 2 solutions - one is placing the bsa as the first archive, the other is editing the inis. I will try to look a little more but if I can't find anything I guess I will play with the disgusting vanilla bodies, not that type 3 is that great either. I was also wondering if I could just install FOMM just to use the archive invalidation option and then keep using MO for actually handling mods.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Why is it that 3 and 4 are generally more popular with normies when New Vegas is objectively better?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

should i download a mod that makes radiation less retarded

i'd say it's for muh lore, but the fact is having the little red bar on my health triggers the fuck out of me, and i'm playing survival

askme
askme

@Deadlyinx
Marketing.

hairygrape
hairygrape

So I wanna make a simple handcar fast travel mod for New Vegas.
Could I get some pointers on doing this? Not a step-by-step guide, not a mod request, just some tips on doing it.

Thanks.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Nojokur
Fallout Bible also has talking raccoons.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Deadlyinx
NV is a linear piece of janked shit with muh cowboys and boring desert not worth exploring.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Deadlyinx
your information is absolutely incorrect

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Deadlyinx
when New Vegas is objectively better?
It is no way "objectively" better

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@TechHater
babby had a thought
Good job son. I know I had to drag you, kicking and screaming, but you came up with an idea on how to troubleshoot your problem.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@hairygrape
All you really need are a series of handcars that are activators, which displays a messagebox with a list of possible locations. It'll take some scripting knowhow but the GECK website for New Vegas has that covered, you can also use Oblivion's site for that since it retains a lot of the same scripting functions and syntax.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Fried_Sushi
scripting
Is it some sort of OOP language?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@massdebater
It's part of a really old version of the silver Shroud quest.

Originally Sinjin was going to be human, and you would "Defeat" him by flooding the hospital with radiation, which wouldn't hurt Kent since he was already a ghoul, and then Sinjin would come back as a ghoul like he is in-game.

The vat of acid is from, as I recall, another path were Sinjin would have you destroy the Shroud costume to kill the legend once and for all.

Originally, there was also some sort of scrit that kept track of actions you did, like if you accepted the bribe, and took the hit contract, which would determine if the Shroud's legend was positive or negative.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@TechHater
Well shit, if anyone is interested in this at all using FOMM for archive invalidation really did do the trick and now I can switch back to MO

@GoogleCat
I would still love to know why the fuck my MO won't handle this thing when it seems to work for other people. This is just a workaround, not a proper solution.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@haveahappyday
anyone?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@kizzmybutt
Is it some sort of OOP language?
Practically every game has used this since the early 90's, so probably.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Fried_Sushi
thanks love

Techpill
Techpill

@kizzmybutt
Sort of. Look it up, it's pretty easy if you know how to code.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Need_TLC
Yes, DLC will work just fine in any vanilla save, as will mods. DLC is basically just mods. The issue is removing shit during a running save, which will cause errors.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@GoogleCat
wew lad

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@TalkBomber
Oh wow that's cool. Thanks, user!

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Techpill
it's pretty easy if you know how to code.
well fuck

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@GoogleCat

what, never seen a double barrel shotgun with a drum magazine before?

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Nude_Bikergirl
I'm going to die.

Inmate
Inmate

@ZeroReborn
Fo3 is more linear in every respect, it barely accommodates the play siding with any faction other than BoS

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Crazy_Nice
Then learn how to code, it'll benefit you in the long run.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Techpill
Yep, I'm learning Java right now and the beginner tutorials look pretty similar.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@TreeEater
So when are those big, DLC sized, Creation Club mods coming Trainboy?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@DeathDog
@Nude_Bikergirl
You know what the worst part is? That still looks better than the Combat Shotgun, and especially that fucking abortion from fallout 3.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@TreeEater
Sorry that I'm asking for so much spoonfeeding but could you recommend tutorials which will give me the skill to make simple scripts?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Carnalpleasure

FNV under FO4's engine with up to date/reused F4 assets

I'm so hard right now

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Garbage Can Lid
:^)

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Soft_member
I dunno, I never did anything online for learning coding. /agdg/ probably has better resources for that.

massdebater
massdebater

@Carnalpleasure
I wonder why Bethesda won't just remake it in FO4's engine
Because that isn't how video games work. No one is going to put the literal millions into porting NV into Fallout 4's engine when the payoff wouldn't recoup costs since New Vegas was never as big as Skyrim was.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Oh God. The only decent alternative to a mod manager for FO4 is NMM? I still have nightmares because of that, back when I used it for Skyrim.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Fuzzy_Logic
Being so bad at using one of the most basic tools in existence you gave yoruself PTSD
Some people shouldn't be allowed to use computers.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Emberfire
being so bad are reading comprehention
Some people shouldn't be allowed to live.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Man, Hancocks really grown on me. I thought he'd just be an edgelord that coaxes me into taking drugs and shit, but actually his morality is very logical. It makes you think twice about doing 'senseless' good deeds.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

war never changes

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Lord_Tryzalot
Where'd you learn to code then?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@BlogWobbles
*at
*comprehension
Stupid mobile. How the fuck did it autocorrect to "comprehention"?

@BinaryMan
playing with no aim recticle
pure fps kino

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@BlogWobbles
Complains about NMM being the only alt to a mod manager for Fallout 4
Complains about having nightmares from using it on Skyrim
Responce calls you out for having a hard time using one of the easiest tools in existence
LEL READUN COMPEHENZTION!
What?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@BinaryMan
AHHH spooked!

Emberfire
Emberfire

@lostmypassword
School, I've got a degree in it.
Not like it's hard though. Start with C# or java.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Stupidasole
you can see his reticle it's just small as heck

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Deadlyinx
assumes I'm upset because NMM is complex, rather than at the fact that NMM is a piece of garbage bloatware, even when I specifically said "as an alternative"
Yes, your reading comprehension does suck.

5mileys
5mileys

@BinaryMan
What hud do you use?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@RumChicken
assumes I'm upset because NMM is complex
Wrong. I made no mention of NMM being complex, or you thinking it was. In fact, I called it simple, and inferred you were even more simple.
bloatware,
People need to stop using words they don't understand

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Deadlyinx

Regardless, NMM is literally pigshit.

You're better off doing it all manually than anything these days, honestly. At least then you learn all the file structures, directories and asset layouts in general, so it's easier to track down issues with certain files (e.g broken models) and you know exactly which version of what file is installed, etc.

But I'm autistic and like doing itthe complex way, so...

JunkTop
JunkTop

@5mileys
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/9441/?
this 1 im pretty sure
been a awhile

takes2long
takes2long

@WebTool
I played with just the plugin and a different enb. I just dropped the entire thing altogether since the nights are pitch black.

I switched to True Storm & NAC with the Film Workshop ENB. It's working fine so far but I have to set NAC to be as bare-bones as possible.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Hey /fog/. New guy here. I'm currently about to start a FO4 playthrough for the first time. I have a couple of questions, however.

1 - How are waifuan' mods? I come from Skyrim, so we have plenty of options there, but I mostly use UUNP. Is there such a thing for FO4?

2 - Which mods are better to use in my first playthrough? I already read the Pastebin at the OP, and I'm thinking of a few, including some of the overhauls. I know of the essential ones like bugfixes and whatnot, but what are some mods that ENHANCE the gameplay rather than changing it dramatically?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Carnalpleasure
Jeez, such a wave of nostalgia. I wonder why Bethesda won't just remake it in FO4's engine, they'd make tons of cash.

For what audience? Everyone who loved it has already played it to death.
I'd rather have a new game made by an external studio. Something that had a system that has good replay value and doesn't enormously favor hybrid character with high int and speech. And something that made the S.P.E.C.I.A.L as well as skills work robustly in first person, like low weapon skills making you stutter with a gun instead of making bullets do more damage.
Setting could be New Orleans or post-Legion defeat Arizona.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Sharpcharm
Being so bad at using one of the most basic tools in existence you gave yoruself PTSD
That's literally what you implied, smartass.

People need to stop using words they don't understand
"DO I FIT IN YET GUYSE?"

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

no mod that does anything with the useless pass cards
any ideas?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

E.R. Headgear, highlights living targets (Berry Mentats effect).
Asset: Tormentor Headgear by Sami Tarvainen.

And no, you cannot watch pr0n with it.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@TalkBomber
make an npc in diamond city who buys them for 100 caps apiece.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Nojokur
wrong game

Flameblow
Flameblow

@hairygrape
@Crazy_Nice
@Soft_member
Here are some tutorials by Seddon he's great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rK5UdhMyas&list=PLE528CEE228C0DBB7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipgx3xmzEaw&list=PLElczpoUwHC4jZXDF_3mp_iXgALiLHw-k
https://www.youtube.com/user/Seddon4494/playlists

hairygrape
hairygrape

@TalkBomber
a gun that shoots pass cards

TechHater
TechHater

@Methnerd
oops. was thinking about those subway tokens and other 'currencies'

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Flameblow
ayy, thanks

@hairygrape
great idea

girlDog
girlDog

Playing Roulette on New Vegas
Work in the betting industry and have a firm grasp on odds and payouts
Odds on hitting a single number are 35/1
Have 2 chips on 24 and it hits it
Says I won 52 instead of 72

Am I being a retard and missing something here or is the game Jewing me?

WebTool
WebTool

@Need_TLC
pls respond

viagrandad
viagrandad

no ammo count
no rounds in magazine count
you have X magazines that don't magically refill themselves
no radiation bar, have to check pipboy
just health bar and compass (but compass has no objective markers of course)
no reticle
no floating objective markers
no [Hidden] up at the top, you just sneak or not, how would you know if you're detected

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@viagrandad
was there a point you were going to make

Techpill
Techpill

@BinaryMan
they should bring these guys to the game

5mileys
5mileys

check the Steam store
a couple of the DLCs are actually twice as expensive as the base game
what the fuck

idontknow
idontknow

@5mileys
buying Bethesda's overly expensive shitty DLCs unironically
Topgoy.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@idontknow
where else would I get them you dumpass

girlDog
girlDog

@SomethingNew
those are cool things. some exist already some dont

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Spazyfool
t. brainlet

Methshot
Methshot

@Spazyfool
the wonderful world of piracy.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Spazyfool
he doesn't pirate dlc on purchased games
Go ahead and spend five minutes on google.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Spazyfool
sorry I'm not a thief so naturally I don't pirate stuff

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@5mileys
You need to pay for a shit DLC in order to get weapon and armour racks

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@5mileys
Not buying all DLC for all games either on sale, or in bundles
Dude, its been like a Decade since DLC got big, how have you not learned this shit by now?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Spazyfool
buy game
pirate dlc

5mileys
5mileys

@Spazyfool
@Methshot
@CouchChiller
@Fried_Sushi
@LuckyDusty
@Ignoramus
look i looked up far harbor alongside all the dlcs on thepiratebay and couldnt find a working copy so stop bothering me im not gonna just ignore all the hard work of the developers at bethesda but if you guys can give me a link just so i can take a peak on what the world of thievery and piracy is that would be great...

viagrandad
viagrandad

@BinaryMan
[Angry Bark!]

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@TreeEater
Like I said, Joseph MacCready is the only real alpha male in FO4 worthy of Nora's nether regions.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@5mileys

Far Harbor is excellent.

Automaton is worthwhile.

Nuka is boring/pointless.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@5mileys
thepiratebay
How do you like your CPU being used for bitcoin mining?

Seriously, who the fuck goes there anymore?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@TechHater
So were cats.
I am kind of hoping they will be in the next one just for the waterworks.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@viagrandad
he unironically has javacript

hairygrape
hairygrape

@viagrandad
Not him, but where else do you pirate your shit?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@TreeEater
playing as Ethan and Generic White Female Protagonist #4037

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@viagrandad
Me

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@hairygrape
At this point, with the fall of Kickass, BtJunkie, Torrentz, and all the others, your better off using 1337X, or RARBG.

Pirate Bay is dead, the site copying it is just a bitcoin mining scam

girlDog
girlDog

@Flameblow
?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Evil_kitten

I like 1337x's GUI, and it generally has what I want on it.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Evil_kitten
@Nojokur
Its actually kind of sad to think the state of torrenting is right now, just like 8 years ago is was pretty good, now its like all dead outside of like 2-3 sites.

Even the original Nyaa shut down, and new Nyaa is ok, but still hasn't reached the height of its predecessor.

Evilember
Evilember

@hairygrape
hot 2bh.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@hairygrape
fugg

Techpill
Techpill

does /fog/ have a discuckord channel?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Techpill
why would you want that

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Harmless_Venom
because i just love circlejerking

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Techpill
subchannel for caitfags
subchannel for piperfags
subchannel for tacticoolers
subchannel for nat nutters
subchannel for robofuckers
would be fun to be honest family

TechHater
TechHater

@TreeEater
Not like there is shit worth pirating anymore
-EA, Activision, and Ubisoft haven't put out a worthwhile game since like 2010.
-99% of Kickstarter projects fall through, and the ones that don't end up like Mighty #9, aka shit.
-Eastern game publishers like Capcom, Sega, Square, Konami, just keep twirling around the drain.
I think I have bought more games from groups like Spiderweb Software in the last 8 years then I have most major publishers.

Bethesda(Softworks not Game Studios) is the only "major" publisher I can think of with a track record of at least decent games like Wolfenstein, Doom, Prey, Dishonored, Evil Within, etc. and even some of those are meh

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@JunkTop
What armor is that?

massdebater
massdebater

@VisualMaster
Fucking Bethesda, modders are making shit that looks awesome and perfect in their aesthetic and style, mean while all the armor other than raider and leather armor excluding heavy leather in vanila F4 completely stands out and looks goofy.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@massdebater
That armor
perfect in aesthetic or style
It looks nothing like anything that should belong in a Fallout game

likme
likme

@girlDog
Maybe you're bad at math?

No I don't know, it is the wasteland and betting can be effected by good luck.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@SomethingNew
Zalton.png

idontknow
idontknow

thoughts on juicehead?

Skullbone
Skullbone

reminder that multiple real people unironically thought a society of children surviving on cave fungus and banishing adults was a good idea

Evilember
Evilember

@viagrandad
no ammo count
I like having an ammo count its possible my character or pip boy could keep track, but I would like to have it in a hardcore mode
no rounds in magazine count
If you know how many mags you have in your bag, you know how much ammo you have, so it makes sense.
you have X magazines that don't magically refill themselves
That is silly
no radiation bar, have to check pipboy
I actually love this idea, make radiation only noticeable via sound and or checking pipboy giger counter.
just health bar and compass (but compass has no objective markers of course)
I love this one, fuck having a magic compass, you should have to check the map, and the location is a large vague bubble before you discover it sort of like MGS V
no reticle
I could see this when you aren't aiming in third person, but shooting third person with no crosshair seems impossible.
no floating objective markers
Not sure what you mean, if you mean not having a marker that tells you who to talk to, then absolutely YES!
no [Hidden] up at the top, you just sneak or not, how would you know if you're detected
Listen this isn't MGS3 sneaking around a building in Fallout is already buggy and difficult if you have a low level stat.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Snarelure
Who what? is that some type of drug?

WebTool
WebTool

@ZeroReborn
The leg holster is too modern, it should be leather, the chest part is from the BOS outfit

The VR hud helmet looks like something that would attach to the recon armor, its a big blocky 80s 70s piece of tech like something out of one of the sci fi films that inspired the tech from the original fallout.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

When you first install bodyslide (before it creates it's registry entries) it prompts for FNV model paths and such on it's list of "supported game directories."

Does that imply that FNV body generation is in theory possible with bodyslide or just a left over GUI element?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@likme
scribe ROTHCHILD
woah....

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Garbage Can Lid
FNV body generation is in theory possible with bodyslide
no

you can slap things together in OS and fix clipping but thats about it

I also have to re add the meatcaps because it breaks them somehow

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Soft_member
scribe ROTHCHILD
And?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Carnalpleasure
dreadfire
if this is another 2d/crpg shitstain of a game I'm going to be mad

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Crazy_Nice
PoE was mediocre
tyranny was worse
Expecting PoE2 to be anything BUT worse

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Playboyize

The shitty bodies in Oblivion/F3/FNV really hurts. ;_;

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

What mod contains a wooden wall with the default texture and no holes? I used to use Snap n' Build but it's not on the nexus anymore.

RavySnake
RavySnake

fo3 crashes regardless of having the ini settings, bug fixes, and other shit
when it was on my shitbox craptop it was more stable than NV
ttw is a bitch to install and is finnicky and most mod conversions are shitty

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Illusionz
I never finished PoE, got to the city riot and just didn't care. Nothing I could do, like no option to scream "LOOK, It's the assassin!" while pointing bbeg, during his big assassination cutscene really bothered me. I remember Irenicus from Baldur's Gate 2 because of his torturing the player intro and the "You will suffer, you will all suffer" in the first 30 minutes. I remember Sarevok from Baldur's Gate 1 because he tried to murder me in the first 30 minutes.

The BBEG of PoE? He's some kind of evil ghost who possesses people that I meet halfway into the game? And why should I care about this country I'm an refugee in? It's a shithole.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Crazy_Nice
but user, several of the best video games ever made have been 2d/crpg shitstains

not that this will be, but I'm still pretty optimistic. Pirates and crew management/relationships are some of my favorite things

whereismyname
whereismyname

@ZeroReborn
PoE is just a dull, derivative, "We wish we was BG" clone, that lacked the soul or charm of BG.

Here is the big twist of the game, the gods are actually the ancient lost race whose ruins you see throughout the game. they did the same thing as the dwemer, and fused all their souls into higher beings in order to impose objective morality because they feared what would happen if people found out there weren't actually any gods.

The badguy is the old high priest of the religion who has been kept alive to rig disasters so people keep believing in the gods.

And the god who supposedly came down to the planet, led a revolution, and got killed? He was just sick an tired of the lie, and tired to expose it, and the other gods kill him for it.

There, THE END

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@whereismyname
I kinda liked running my castle where I'd have audiences and make decisions. Liked it in Dragon Age: Awakenings and in Baldur's Gate 2. I cared more about that place than the rest of the country/world.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@girlDog
SHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUN
SHAUN
SHAUN
SHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUN
I'm afraid that's not possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t0uCWjQ6Og
The latter is self-explanatory.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Is it okay to release mods on Nexus that use assets from other games, like armor pieces, weapons, etc.?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@King_Martha
I've never seen a mod removed from nexus
I don't think modders pay attention to nexus uploads the way they do with moddb ones

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Supergrass
I've never seen a mod removed from nexus
This has to be a joke. Nexus are one of the most remove happy sites if they even think you have assets from other games

Only like STALKER and Witcher assets are allowed because the companies that own them said it was ok publcially.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Evil_kitten
Wonder why they don't seem to give a shit about XCOM2 mods then. All my soldiers are dressed up in a mishmash of Halo and other sci-fi games armors wielding guns ripped straight from Halo Reach.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Evil_kitten
I mean in the warband nexus section
mods get removed from the skyrim section quickly because tens of thousands look there and report it
the warband section is dead and full of ancient shitmods with like 3 unique downloads

idontknow
idontknow

Hey modfriends, some questions before I start looking into making an armor+weapon set.
Would it be possible to add longcoat physics to a Power Armor set
and
Can you set different receivers for guns to use different animations/meshes?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Evil_kitten
I was planning to release a huge pack for Fallout 4 containing assets from various other games, mostly the Sniper Elite franchise and Killing Floor 2, although with very high poly and smoothed meshes as well as 2k textures.

I've seen *numerous* mods with modified assets from other games, but if I can't release that on Nexus I'll release it on GU Network then.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Evil_kitten
lol i forgot what general i was in

FastChef
FastChef

@idontknow
longcoat physics to a Power Armor set
nope

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@idontknow
Would it be possible to add longcoat physics to a Power Armor set
I know very little about bone rigging with physics but I highly doubt the vanilla Power Armor skeleton has any physics support. You would probably have to create the bones yourself and add physics to it using a 3d software, and that's far beyond the average skill level for modding, it's professional-tier stuff.

Can you set different receivers for guns to use different animations/meshes?
Yep, I have no idea how to do that but I've seen a few mods with that very characteristic, like this one https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26302/?

You should ask N7R for some help with that, he's by far the most experienced weapon modder I know of.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@King_Martha
it is okay insofar as long as no one reports or complains or notices

girlDog
girlDog

@Ignoramus
MO handles archive invalidation fine for me user.

WebTool
WebTool

@Evilember
Is that dude trying to cosplay a Zaku? Because that looks like a low rent Zaku cosplay.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Boy_vs_Girl
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/24542/?

mash up of this and other shit

RumChicken
RumChicken

@WebTool
Looks like a shield bulldozer from payday 2.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@WebTool
NERD!!!

TechHater
TechHater

bashed patches are scary and confusing

SniperGod
SniperGod

lewd!

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/27402/?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@PurpleCharger
Makes sense.

The Commonwealth is full of profligates.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@5mileys
NCR the goodest boys
This will bother me more than anything else. The NCR felt like a moral option precisely because of their corruption. Beuracracy is slow and shitty and a huge pain in the ass for everyone but at least no one walks around in a pseudo democracy with a bomb collar.
But howard would definitely turn them into presto gravey tier no-names and boy scouts and that would cut the throats of the bear as assuredly as nuking the 15.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Doing a fresh install of Fallout 4 on my new rig. Need mods.

hairygrape
hairygrape

I would join the legion 100% of the time in new vegas if they didn't wear fucking sports equipment for armor

Firespawn
Firespawn

Similar to how MacCready found his way into 4 from 3, one of the FO4 companions finds themselves in FO5.

Who is it, and why?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Firespawn
hopefully we never make it to 5

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@hairygrape
Sports equipment with dinner plates taped on to make it look like armor. It's like they had 5 minutes in a super-duper mart to decide their look and that was it.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Firespawn
50 foot tall radioactive Preston Garvey, with earth-shaking roars of "SETTLEMENT NEEDS HELP".

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@SniperGod
tumblr artist's FO character has vitiligo
It's like they WANT to be a Tumblr stereotype.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Firespawn
Honestly I can't exactly say that I'm really even want a Fo5 right now.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@New_Cliche
@Deadlyinx
rail shooter
cutscene for dialogue that you just watch, instead of having input and choosing
the main quest is only several hours and is full of action and explosions and you mostly just shoot stuff and say one liners
jet is confirmed pre war
aliens have a much larger role in the game, in fact they're the main antagonists
game starts with you being abducted
space vault!
they're confirmed to have started the war, in order to orchestrates events so that specifically you find yourself here today under these conditions, and the wasteland hardened you for the fight against the aliens who use radiation weapons that you're immune to now, to fight the bad aliens

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Deadlyinx
The entire Fo4 experience has been so exhausting, I'm not sure they would do better with another one because they think Fo4 is amazing and a step in the right direction.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@GoogleCat
don't forget creation club loot boxes

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@GoogleCat
kill yourself

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@PurpleCharger
they said they would do dialogue differently though, and they said they werne't happy with the limited choices and sometimes what your character said being slightly different than the text implied.

They liked te shooting and power armor and they said they realy liked the "storytelling" they were able to do in 4, but they said they have to work on the dialogue system and that there would be more choices in future games.

I'm really looking forward to what Valenwood has, since it gets to be on the newer edition of the engine but it gets to learn from fo4's mistakes. This was probably intentional since elder scrolls seems more popular or something.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Ignoramus
kill yourself

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Ignoramus
bethesda
learning from mistakes
not doubling down on them while removing features

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Illusionz
tfw you realize the next FO or TES game will have Creation Club from the get-go
it's possible that they purposely made modding a bitch in Fo4 because they were always planning the CC

FastChef
FastChef

@Ignoramus
they said they would do dialogue differently though
:)
:(

idontknow
idontknow

@whereismyname
they were unhelpful to the f4se crew when they asked for help several months ago
all according to keikaku
-todd

@FastChef
I might be wrong, and hopefully someone corrects me if I am, but I think I heard this was directly from the big man himself in an interview, so I think that means something.

Flameblow
Flameblow

I would a Becca. But only if she protested with SJW ideology.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@FastChef
I think you mean
Go on
Repeat that, I missed it

massdebater
massdebater

let's make modding so difficult all mods will be shit
the only """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""good"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" mods will be the ones we sell on CC because we're too incompetent to compete with the modding community

eGremlin
eGremlin

@idontknow
I heard this was directly from the big man himself
Plot twist, Todd lies.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@eGremlin
n-no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvGXCisAaR4

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@massdebater
people stop buying their games because that's all Bethesda games are for: modding
Bethesda either goes back the original strategy or goes bankrupt

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@SniperGod
Reminder to kill yourself

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Spazyfool
people stop buying their games
kek

they bought skyrim, and FO3 and FO4

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Deadlyinx
Skyrim was a pretty alright game.

I mean not good enough to buy multiple times like Bethesda seems to think it is, but still alright.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Deadlyinx
Because they're modding platforms, you dumbo. You remove the modding platform from those games and they'll instantly lose at least half of their player base. At that point it would be better for them to just abandon PC and focus solely on their console peasantry.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@massdebater
all CC mods are objectively the best
an user sacrifices himself to provide for the rest and everyone can propogate the "EPIC" mod in question.

@StrangeWizard
Bethesda seems to think it is, but still alright.
Therein, lies our solidarity, attack the cunts where they least expect it.

DeathDog
DeathDog

THE NEXT FALLOUT IS GOING TO BE ANNOUNCED THE 23RD RIGHT

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

The next fallout game will let you hold hands with your companions

Bidwell
Bidwell

why is nuka cola quantum in nuka cola machines?

i thought they had shipped them the same day the bombs fell

Methnerd
Methnerd

tfw no companion pissing on the floor while crouching and jiggly tits while running

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I hope yellowstone erupts and bethesda is never able to release another game again as the earth descends into 100 years of darkness

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

i hope the cyber alien or whatever realizes he left the earth simulation running and pulls the plug

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Bidwell
fo3
nuka quantum is only in dc and in limited supply
fo4
nuka quantum is everywhere

Booteefool
Booteefool

Non-coastie Fallout when?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Skullbone
really makes me think..........

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

loverslab animations neverever

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Skullbone
fo3
quantum is a limited collectable, only 108 in the entire game
fo4
it's fuckin everywhere AND it respawns

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Boy_vs_Girl
where do you put the dickenator?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Skullbone
It's almost as if Bethesda doesn't give a shit.

takes2long
takes2long

@Booteefool
Fallout: New Flyover

new vegas is inland ya dingus

Booteefool
Booteefool

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/18809/?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@takes2long
But muh Fallout Tactics

JunkTop
JunkTop

you will never seduce a girl by picking locks

Nojokur
Nojokur

@JunkTop
you will never seduce a girl at all

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Booteefool
I would desu

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Fallout new vegas remade in the style of stalker would be amazing.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@TreeEater
Yes
Independence and Security
Enlist into the minutemen
Service GARUNTEES citizenship
Raiders and gunners will be hunted down, any survivors will be sent to work camps
Any commies will be killed on site

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Fallout new vegas remade in the style of a fully completed and ready for release game would be amazing

askme
askme

@Deadlyinx
So make it crash more often, make the aliens more prevelant, and make the grammar shitty?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

looking for a dogmeat re placer so i can have a cyberdog and find this instead, did fuggly ss user go too far?
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/16335/?

Also does any one know of a good cyberdog mod, i don't care if it replaces dogmeat or not i just want a nice doggo for enclave murder squad.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Crazy_Nice
Such a game exits user. It's called Fallout 4.

Supergrass
Supergrass

big iron

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Supergrass
BIG IIRON

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

the fact that I need mods to choke my companions with my big iron

farquit
farquit

@Supergrass
Ahhhh Onii-chan! That iron on your hips is so big and hard....

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=999RqGZatPs
thread song

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

trying to concentrate on delicate things that require my attention like picking a lock, hacking a computer, or shooting a gun
cait keeps mentioning looking at her arse and making comments that make me think about her feet, which are supremely distracting for many reasons
She's really bad at this whole "steathy" thing. Though I suppose that is realistic, since that ins't her style.

Danse clunks around in power armor, and the two robots float around and have an thruster and make metallic noises, and dogmeat darks and pants. So lots of companions are not very stealthy.

I have a feeling MacCready would be the stealthiest. He's the most highly trained besides Danse, and he's not wearing power armor. Or Piper, since she's a stealthy sleuth detective.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Play it again

Emberfire
Emberfire

@AwesomeTucker
Supposedly you should go no lower than 6.
8 or 10 to be safe. Default is 20.

eGremlin
eGremlin

So, what do mesh files usually go by? I am having a slight anorexia problem with some armors, and it might also explain the anime pauldrons.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Emberfire
Been about a year since I modded Fo4, what does timescale effect? FPS? Or animation or...?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Ignoramus
It effects the flow of time relevant to time of day.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@eGremlin
nonsense, that's a corset.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Ignoramus
The rate at which time passes. The default of 20 makes a minute pass x20 faster, so every 3 seconds rather 60.

If you were to set it to 1, then 24 real hours must pass per ingame day. ~immersive~ if you don't fast travel.

Dropping it below 6 (1 minute passes every 10 seconds) can result in:
@SniperWish
@eGremlin

Timescale 1 (60s per minute) works fine in Skyrim, but royally fucks Fallout 4. I think New Vegas breaks too.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@AwesomeTucker
ah, makes sense

cum2soon
cum2soon

@CodeBuns
Boy it isn't the 1800s, squeezing your internal organs into a new state of matter is out of style.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@eGremlin
@cum2soon
fix it with bodyslide?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@eGremlin
Clothing and Armor have their own shaped meshes. Although your SS's Fat / Fit / Thin setting in character creation does have some effect on the shape, a drastically different mesh is still obvious, like your pic.

Perhaps you installed a mesh replacer for the Vault Suit?
If you have previously used CBBE or something, you likely have leftover clothing / armor meshes.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@King_Martha
I thought I mentioned I knew I had leftover mesh files from cbbe considering I had the nude textures still working after I uninstalled it which was awkward explaining, I just need to know what the file names and format are so I don't delete the wrong files.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@PackManBrainlure
Nah, Deacon is the stealthiest, since he's an actual spy. Runner-up would be Nick, since y'know he's a detective, plus he doesn't breathe, have a heart beat, or has any needs.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

LOOT has detected 6 dirty plugins
all official bethesda DLC .esm files
lmaoing at ur life todd

TreeEater
TreeEater

@ZeroReborn
Anyone here good at bodyslide?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Anyone have any gameplay enhancing specific mod recommendations for NV? I haven't played in a long time where I played fully unmodded. I'm not interested in crazy texture/art/waifu overhauls and skeletons, just mods that improve upon any systems in the game or QoL.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@TreeEater
Ask Buffscale, he's a modding god you know.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@TreeEater
just install a preset

@haveahappyday
uncut mods and jsawyer

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@PackManBrainlure
MacCready
most trained besides Danse
little shitkicker from little lamplight is considered highly skilled because he ran with a mercenary group for awhile
this is in comparison to companions like X8, Deacon and even fucking Garvey

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@GoogleCat
He is compared to us retards

massdebater
massdebater

@Stark_Naked
@GoogleCat

please dont encourage the tripfag to come back, pleasepleaseplease the more you act like it's common place the harder it is to get rid of him

StonedTime
StonedTime

@massdebater
Buffscale is already an institution on /fog/.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Did they ever optimize the game at all? Are there mods that actually fix it instead of just 2-4 frames here and there? Or is it still impossible to get decent frames without a 1080TI

girlDog
girlDog

@massdebater
Buffscale has been here regularly since around the announcement of Fo4.

Don't act like he's something new when you've clearly not been here as long.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Crazy_Nice
What are you trying to run it on?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@girlDog
Keep sucking that dick boy

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Crazy_Nice
Nope and nope.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@StrangeWizard
worst part is, quantum cola is their creation
they don't even give a shit about the lore they make

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@JunkTop
desu i'd bet that picking a lock in front of a girl would be a great conversation starter

5mileys
5mileys

@Need_TLC
"Sup, I can break into your bedroom at night. Sweet dreams."

Nojokur
Nojokur

@5mileys
not exactly
unless you look like a fucking creep i guess

RumChicken
RumChicken

@idontknow
But would you?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@idontknow
the absolute state of nu-ghouls
a joke tbhphamalamadingdongs

Skullbone
Skullbone

see videos of how happy Piper is when she's dating Blue
really want that for her
but I'm married already
Who should I try to set her up with?

I'm thinking Sturges or Deacon. They share a lot of her 1950's colloquialisms and they're both pretty good people so she would probably approve of them. She already lives near Sturges too.

Deacon has a waifu already though. So I think I'll tell each of them I have a favor to ask of them, and send them to the same spot where I had set up a picnic and Ill leave a note that says they're on a blind date!

Evilember
Evilember

@Skullbone
kill yourself

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Skullbone
polygamy is a thing, and canonically okay

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Skullbone
set up a picnic and Ill leave a note that says they're on a blind date!
That's a really bad and awkward idea. Just have a poly relationship, stupid, Cait's fine with it and piper only dislikes the idea because she dislikes Cait. Your headcanon Cait seems to be like the anti-Cait, so piper'd probably be fine.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Sharpcharm
pic

Why did this put me in hysterics like some sort of loon?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Ok what if I ask her to add a dating/personals section to her newspaper, where people can put some info about themselves, and I keep cutting out the good ones and encouraging her to answer them?

What about making an entry in her name and putting her info?

@Sharpcharm
Why is my impression of Cait different from what you think Cait should be?

@MPmaster
I would be scared of not being able to devote myself to each of them fully/equally. There's no limit to the amount of love a person can have in their heart so I'm not worried about that, I'm worried about the practical tings like spending time and we know some of their hobbies/interests conflict.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

new computer
lost my CBBE preset
fucking kill me /fog/

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@VisualMaster
Time to build a new body. Go nut with the slider !

Lunatick
Lunatick

i hated fo4 vanilla and didn't even manage to slog my way through to the end.

i love fallout 1, 2, and nv, and came here to ask if there is a suite of mods or a mod guide that fits for a classic enthusiast of the series so as to make it more rpg centric and suitable for someone like me.

or should i simply not bother?

Snarelure
Snarelure

When do you start getting half-decent gear in New Vegas again? Would like to use something more than a 9mm Pistol, Varmint Rifle, and Single Shotgun.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

I fucking despise youtubers i hate how they basically rip information from a game wiki and call it a day

What are the chances if i were to mess around with fallout wiki and add false facts that youtubers will include in their shitty videos

SniperGod
SniperGod

@TurtleCat
I wouldn't do that, user. You might end up confusing Emil even more.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Help a brother out /fog/..

I got the mission to build Relay to get to the Institute.
I build it, got in there, stepped outside the teleporter to record that tape for Sturges and teleported out.
Now my relay is fried, i have an option to repair it but despite having all required parts the option is greyed out, i have no more main quests in the log only some radiants and side ones...
Did i just fucked my save ??
Or am i missing something ?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@RumChicken
not having multiple saves
wew

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Stark_Naked
Its survival with optional quicksave and "normal" saves by waiting/sleeping.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@RumChicken
chat with Papi before teleporting back out. Perhaps reload a save.

You can actually use the tute's teleporter after you chat with him, which should solve yours being broken.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@CouchChiller
Okay then just go back to your latest save, nerd.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Fried_Sushi
You can actually use the tute's teleporter

The who ?

Perhaps reload a save.
I dont think i have a save prior to that ... Fuck.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@ZeroReborn
You don't really have to care about the country, but if you don't chase the guy you'll go batshit crazy. You have a decent enough motivation to kill him, even if you agree with him he still needs to die or else you go mad because he fucked over one of your past lives.

For fucks sake you find out the guys been stealing baby's souls and can just decide to finish his goal or destroy them just for the lolz.

I personally liked pillars. I found it pretty comfy.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Dreamworx
The good ol' bethesda bugs.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@BlogWobbles
X8
Thats not a companion

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@takes2long

You could play Fallout right now by going and wondering around any town or city at night in Ohio.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@BlogWobbles

Garvey is a tard, as are all the Minute Men.

Look at how many died in that shopping center for proof.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@BinaryMan
buy shitty revolver from walmart
leave in river for about a week
beat the shit out of it
oh my spurs they jingle jangle jingle

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@BinaryMan
this

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@BinaryMan
went camping last weekend
unironically pretended I was in fallout and that I had to watch out for ghouls and yao guai
my sleep meter got really low at one point and didn't have my geiger counter but I made it through all right

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@TreeEater

Seems you're all googly-eyes for an uggo and a shit. A shit!

Techpill
Techpill

@TreeEater
No. SS just lost his/her spouse and it make no sense to jump on the first radiated dick/pussy you see.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@TurtleCat
Why is my impression of Cait different from what you think Cait should be?
I, and other anons, have explained why your interpretation, or views, on Cait are not actually in-character for her and after the conversation goes nowhere for a little while, you just jump to, "I just view the best in people." despite anyone telling you that you're just way off base or "Well, I'm just roleplaying my character and how HE views Cait."

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Snarelure
Primm or Nipton you should start getting some alright gear; depending on your build the golf club in the shack near the memorial by Goodsprings is a good melee weapon, and Chance's Knife isn't too far but you need to get by a cazador or two. Prospector Cave east of Primm has some ok stuff depending.

@haveahappyday
Basics: YUP, NVSE, UIO, MCM, NVAC, JIP/ln;
Small fixes/improvements: Delay DLC, Distant Gunfire Sound Fix, Enhanced Camera, Improved LOD Noise Texture, Increased Bullet Impact LOD, JIP Improved Recipe Menu, Less Intrusive Kill Camera, Navmesh Fixes & Improvements, No Ambient Crowd Noise, Ultimate Invisible Wall Remover
Restored & Improved Content: The Strip Open, Outside Bets, Wasteland Uncut, Primm Reputation Restored; Novac Motel Radio Fix, Mojave Outpost Redesigned, Red Rock Canyon Bridge (you have to clean the VenomPass.esp though).

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Sir_Gallonhead
I've never once said my character interprets Cait as something other than what Cait is, or that my interpretation is separate from reality. Maybe someone was posting with this name.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

I want to get back on Fallout 4 but my game had rainbow textures on some surfaces on occasion and ran very shitty, while modded SkyrimSE works perfectly.

Also is there a non-nexus site for mods? I got IP banned from that website

What gives.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Stupidasole
@lostmypassword
@Spamalot
Fuck off tumblr

viagrandad
viagrandad

What's the console command to toggle the UI? If it's "tm" I'm gonna be mad that I forgot it. I tried out a newer mod today, Detected By Whom, and it performs as advertised. Caution and Danger tags seem unaffected by it though, but peaceful detection works fine.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@viagrandad
its tm.

Spamalot
Spamalot

God damnit, Fallout 4 quest structure is a mess...
I hope i didnt fucked everything by refusing Father and getting kicked out of the Institute...

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@kizzmybutt
shitposting is now tumblr

takes2long
takes2long

@TalkBomber
No but those gifs and shipping shit is definitely tumblr tier

Inmate
Inmate

@takes2long
tumblr is anything i dislike

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@takes2long
sloths and Firefly are Tumblr
I'll give you the Supernatural gif, but we weren't really talking about shipping, we were talking about his characterization of Cait.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Fried_Sushi
I think the "shipping" comment might've been a reference to the courtship ritual that user and a caitfag were performing. Another way to say "get a room" or "kiss and make up".

@LuckyDusty
Of course it is.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

mfw soloing Coverga with 3x/3x dmg setting and Modern Firearms installed

Fuck me running, this is some serious Rainbow Six here..

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Techpill
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Snarelure
implying the game isn't the most fun with crap weapons

@TurtleCat
the wiki already has a fuckton of fake info

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Evil_kitten
cringe

@TurtleCat
le KGB dissident man
hi /pol/
yuri was never in the KGB

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Deadlyinx
Don't bait me with this trash you made me look at the thread. What the fuck is yuri or kgb?

Please reply only if you can help me make the game not have rainbow textures on some surfaces sometimes.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Harmless_Venom
You don't know the history behind the pic you posted? Yuri was a "KGB dissident" who made some retarded claims and could never prove he was in the KGB, he's frequently upheld by reactionary conspiracy theorists who believe the soviet union (which couldn't even keep its own people in line) completely subverted american culture

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@eGremlin
What the fuck are you on about? I mass-download JPEGs I find funny from this website once in a while, excuse me for not opening up the Encyclopedia Britannica to see what hidden meaning they fucking have.

Also, this is a Fallout thread where I asked for help fixing a glitch.

Techpill
Techpill

@Stark_Naked
I mass-download JPEGs I find funny from this website once in a while
wow, even worse than a /pol/ack, you're a fucking redditor

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Techpill
Don't use reddit. Stop projecting friend.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Is there a mod that makes it so i can have multiple automatron bots following me but not interfere with my normal companion so i can still use whoever and have them count as the only one for "stuff"?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Stupidasole
Can't be a picture of Cait, actually looks somewhat cute.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Spazyfool
Unlimited Follower Framework.

hairygrape
hairygrape

not making Magnolia a middle aged black woman
not having Curie look like a skeletor mouse trap
not forcing Piper to be overweight with greasy hair
not beating Cait so she's a bruised up junkie dyke

Fuck realism when it comes to women you can fuck in these games. It's all generic shit really.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@hairygrape
you ok user?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@VisualMaster
Does he sound okay?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

when are the sex mods going to get good
It's been two years

Lunatick
Lunatick

DOSE F4SE WORKS WITH CREATION CLUB NOW ?

idontknow
idontknow

@Lunatick
No, you get banned for using it. That's why everyone's upset about CC.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Did Fallout 4 have any speech checks that were based on skill other than the Nuka World DLC where you can bypass the robots in the gulch? That's one of the main things I missed from the NV and even 3, where you are rewarded with a different outcome depending on how skilled you are in a particular field.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Any new Creation Club news fellow Vault Dwellers?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@hairygrape
Why would you want an overweight Piper?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@BlogWobbles
in dialogue not really but there are still enviroment skill stuff, a few

idontknow
idontknow

@hairygrape
not forcing Piper to be overweight
overweight people in post apo setting

Evilember
Evilember

@Raving_Cute
There were LEDs in the Fallout world?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@PackManBrainlure
Well she is a SJW

Flameblow
Flameblow

@PackManBrainlure
How is the cleansing going, Battle Brother ?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@TalkBomber
ya but that confuses violate and they just sit there not doing anything because it doesn't know what companion to pick and dogmeat just stands there not doing his "thing".

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@CouchChiller
Sorry, cant help you - i dont use FP violate.

I use UFF plus Better Companions plus Everbody Best Friend, without any problem.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Flameblow
It's good.
I'm running out of things to kill.

likme
likme

@Evilember
Why wouldn't there be?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@BlogWobbles
The funny thing about Nuka World is how it made some small tweaks to gameplay, like perks affecting dialogue options and modding guns requiring more specific perks like Rifleman or Commando instead of just Gun Nut and Science, that would've made the game more interesting if those features had been there since the beginning.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Booteefool
@PackManBrainlure
Shame there is no mod that replaces all power armours in game ( except maybe raider ) with Astartes armours.. :(

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Raving_Cute
@Fried_Sushi
It kind of pissed me off because I thought to myself when I started my first playthrough "oh this is about the Institute and Synths, so I'll make a character who is really skilled in science and stuff and it may have some interesting outcomes" like Fallout 3's ending with the computer if you had a high sicence and/or robotics skill. But nope none of my choices made a difference on how the story folded out. The Institute still treated me like a retard when I had maxed out the science and robotics perks.

I swear next playthrough I'm making a brain-dead super mutant type character with the ghoulish trait maxed out as well as the perk that let's radiation heal you. I bet the characters still won't blink an eye when they interact with him.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Fried_Sushi
Too bad nuka world is shit.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@idontknow
To be fair, the folks of Diamond City live a very cushy life and could very easily become overweight-- especially the upper stands folks.

Not Piper, though, she lives a pretty active lifestyle, running from bullets and shit.

FastChef
FastChef

@CodeBuns
I just console command spawn pieces of astartes armor into my inventory and then add them to companions inventory. So now all my companions have astartes power armor.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@PurpleCharger
Not Piper, though
The bitch that constantly eats junk food and hides it from her little sister

Booteefool
Booteefool

@PurpleCharger
@idontknow
Isn't the mayor an overweight synth?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Booteefool

He's the Winestein of Diamond City.

All new travelers have to do a tour on his casting couch.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Booteefool
He was made to be overweight and synths can't lost it(or gain) because they can't metabolize anything.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@FastChef
Yeah but its gamey as fuck.

It would be fun to come across a BoS patrol in full on Dark Templars armour with pseudo Guardsmen Scribes.

Double for Railroad player.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@FastChef
How the fuck does your game look this good and how bad does it run in Diamond City etc? Also how did you fix the occasional purple textures bug?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@PurpleCharger
Custom self made ENB, 30fps in Diamond City.
As for the purple textures it only happens with a modded weapon that seems to have missing particle effects textures. I couldn't fix that one. Haven't experienced it outside of that one particular mod.

@SniperWish
Point is he is fat, so people in the commonwealth can get fat.

@Flameblow
I absolutely agree, I'd love to come across Dark Templars purging mutant scum so I can join in.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@VisualMaster
I use no mods and I get occasional purple surfaces and whatnot... Bizarre

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Raving_Cute
I don't know what that might be, do you have the DLC installed? Sounds like missing textures.
You might wanna verify game integrity with steam, if you have no mods installed.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@w8t4u
The bitch that constantly eats junk food and hides it from her little sister
You instantly bloat up to the size of a whale if you sneak the occasional junk food.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@FastChef

tfw ESP Explorer

Its so good, I mean I could use the console but it makes things way easier for me at least.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Skullbone
Pirated version. FeelsBadMan

My files were a mess back then and if I reinstall it now it could be fixed

WebTool
WebTool

@Lord_Tryzalot
Just try to reinstall.
Or give Todd your money.
I found the game with all the DLC on a keysite for 20 bucks. That's how I got the game.

farquit
farquit

@idontknow
HOW DO I STOP F4 UPDATE I DONT WANT CC

Inmate
Inmate

@farquit
Just bite the pillow and think about morrowind, user. It will be over soon.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Lunatick
I use F4SE and CC. Also running a several month old version of Fallout 4, set Fallout 4 to only update when run through steam and I only run Fallout 4 by starting F4SE.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Tempting to turn Codsworth into a generic sentry
bot torso+arms with assaultron headlaser and legs but it wouldn't feel Codsworth'ish if he didn't have a Mr. Handy eye and thruster.

Shame he lost his ability to wear a bowler hat. My one true regret.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@StrangeWizard

I used one of the odd mods to make him a real robobadass, tons of extra arms with double barrel shotguns and sniper lasers 'n shit

He spends most of his time wondering off to the far south east corner of sanctuary and getting stuck on shit

Goddamnit Codsworth

Methnerd
Methnerd

@StrangeWizard
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11278/?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Deadlyinx
NV is more popular than Fo3. It has been for years. Stop pretending NV is some forgotten niche game.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@New_Cliche
lol

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@BinaryMan
Where was the bullet?

likme
likme

@Gigastrength
I didn't even notice until now. I thought she was just a cute brown tomboy.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@likme
Saving shitty resized images

massdebater
massdebater

@Skullbone
@WebTool
I pre-purchased the collector's edition with the physical PipBoy and, despite multiple calls from me, never got me a working key.

I will never stop torrenting Bethesda games for the rest of my sad, ineffectual days

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@massdebater
I pre-purchased
the collector's edition
with the physical PipBoy

FastChef
FastChef

@SniperWish
I'm sorry, user. It's all I had.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@massdebater
Fair enough, I pirated most Bethesda games until now.
I honestly shouldn't have given the jews money, but I just wanted a clean install. Since Kat and TPD are sorta dead and even rutracker lacks some stuff I couldn't find a F4 GOTY edition torrent and just couldn't be bothered to wade through all the other shady sites.

WebTool
WebTool

Pissed off with life atm due to work/women
randomly think of playing NV again
Am going to do a story based on how my new game starts, basing The Courier off of me
Well this autism will either be amazing or cringey

Or both

takes2long
takes2long

@FastChef
off-topic but let me guess the "plot" of whichever doujinshi that's from:
spineless omegabeta-max neet's childhood-friend is a grill and in love with him because reasons and they fuck the end
It's an abstract kind of feeling when you try to fap but cant because the guy plowing dat qt 3.14 2d-pettanko is even more of a spineless useless sack-of-shit than you are.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@takes2long
Nope. That's Nana to Kaoru.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@BlogWobbles
laughingfaggot.jpg but tell you what playing with that on your arm and being able to use it FOR REAL is the most satisfying thing ever. enjoy poverty

@WebTool
both, but mostly the latter

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@New_Cliche
And like always, best girl lost.

TechHater
TechHater

@Harmless_Venom
What happens if there are multiple best girls?

King_Martha
King_Martha

the worst part about 4 is how literally everything is prewar now

eGremlin
eGremlin

@King_Martha
no
the worst part about 4 is skeletons

Flameblow
Flameblow

@eGremlin
when a naked man breaks into your office and you both die of sudden onset rigor mortis

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@viagrandad
Get fleeced for the actual product
B-but I got this useless hunk of plastic!
$100 for $20 china pastic
This is supposed to make me feel bad
lmao really

girlDog
girlDog

in front of Sentinel Site
wearing Astartes PA
Codsworth, Danse and Ada as companions
super muties rushing us
including 3 behemoths

Christ, that is some serious WH40K shit..

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Skullbone
@Raving_Cute
People seem to forget Quantaum is only in Boston due to Nuka world being right next door

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@girlDog
use this

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11621/?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@ZeroReborn
No thanks.
Im already almost at max plugins and i have Endless Warfare.
Plus my rig sucks so i cant actually make some huge fucking battles.

But it was a nice touch, i wonder if it was scripted because i arrived at Site by Vertibird.

askme
askme

New bread when?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@happy_sad
Why would it be easier to find Quantum just because the bottling plant that made Quantum is there?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Spazyfool
Why is it easy to find something at its source, and where it was given out in mass as part of a promotional scheme for the park?
Is this a trick question? or are you retarded?

askme
askme

@Soft_member
Because Nuka World is braindead.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

we're 200 years past doomsday. the survival of the bostonian dialect is a stretch, even with holovids
why the hell does Cait had a ridiculously over exaggerated fake irish accent, complete with phrases. nothing in her backstory supports it and no one else in the game sounds the same way

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Lunatick
Isn't looting a pain in the ass in third person? A big part of Fallout 4 from my experience is clearing off tables and clearing out desks for shit to upgrade weapons/gear and build settlement facilities with. I can't imagine having your character right in the way as you are trying to decide which junk is worth picking up would be very fun.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Sharpcharm
Because most of the people who have obvious accents are implied to be foreigners who came to America. In Cait's case, it was likely her parents.

They went over this back in Fallout 3

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Raving_Cute
I noticed this to. When you try accelerating from zero or changing direction quickly in third person, they compensate fore the animations and have your character lag a bit as a consequence, adding a 'wind up' to everything. But in first person most of those things are instantaneous.

happy_sad
happy_sad

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