Grim dawn general gdg

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Back to grim pictures aka no more sexy loading screen lady edition

official forums [resources lower right]
grimdawn.com/forums

1.0.2.1 (latest) patch notes
http://grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56985

steam store page
store.steampowered.com/app/219990

build planner
grimtools.com/calc

wikis
grimdawn.gamepedia.com/Grim_Dawn_Wiki
http://grimdawn.wikia.com/wiki/Grim_Dawn_Wiki

mods
http://www.nexusmods.com/grimdawn/
http://www.moddb.com/games/grim-dawn

cant launch
Be sure to install everything (manually) from _CommonRedist folder in game steamapps folder.
If still no go, then in steam library right click game name > additional launch options add /d3d9 (force use of DirectX 9)

previous illusion
/vg/thread/192945468#p192945468

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http://grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56985
http://grimdawn.wikia.com/wiki/Grim_Dawn_Wiki
http://www.nexusmods.com/grimdawn/
http://www.moddb.com/games/grim-dawn
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/bVA433Q2
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/wV1wqeYN
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/4ZDMwrkN
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/RZR9kLxV
http://www.grimtools.com/db/itemsets/118
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/RZR9kW0V
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29256
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/62avdYEV
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Vw7I9fTSqtx9s3a4WVvkgiOGZ7leM81n1H1RrwrOzLc/htmlview
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/dVbKgEkZ
http://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7132
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/wV1wlQnN
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/O2GWO4n2
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/YVWPjjJZ
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/O2GWOOk2
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/D2pJb4pZ
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/d2jBynE2
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/62avdYEV
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/eVLJae6N
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/b28qx0DV
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/q2mgrezZ
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/4ZDM9gaN
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/D2pJb4pZ
http://www.grimtools.com/db/search?query=Bysmiel-Sect%20Legguards&in_description=1&exact_match=0
http://grimdawn.wikia.com/wiki/Shrines
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26777
http://grimdawnshrinemap.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/eVLJa9GN
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/aZqBkjdN
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/8NKQjznV
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/a2ELk1bN
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/eVLJXmMN
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/nZoX8B9N
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/O2GWYnk2
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/RZR9rb9V
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/RZR9rLOV
Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Crazy_Nice
I wonder why they don't cycle these screensavers instead of using a single picture

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

http://www.grimtools.com/calc/bVA433Q2
Not entirely sure on my devotions. If I'm not going for fire and only have Doom Bolt for chaos damage, is Flame Torrent still worth it on skeletons? Or should I go for Twin Fangs/Giant's Blood? Also is there anything more interesting to put my last remaining devotion points into besides some nodes that give +pet or +vit stuff.

SniperGod
SniperGod

first time playing this can someone help me salvage this?

http://www.grimtools.com/calc/wV1wqeYN

i do a lot of damage actually with muskets and i actually survive a lot because of blood of dreeg

im not that interested in pets besides maybe the crow

takes2long
takes2long

@Boy_vs_Girl
Yeah I blush every time I look at her tits...

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

who is that guy

TechHater
TechHater

@AwesomeTucker
Occultist

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@SniperGod
Why the points in Soleals Witchfire? You dont do any vitality damage. Flame Touched would be much better to max out. And beyond that Flashbang or Stun Jacks are decent skills to have to get you out of sticky situations. Not sure what direction you want to go.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Aren't there any components that give pet bonuses?

Aside from bindings of bysmiel, of course

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Spazyfool
I dunno. i shoot things and it says 2k damage at the same level as me

if i turn it off its 1k damage

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@TechHater
Demolitionist

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@SniperGod
@Spazyfool
@Skullbone
also pick curse of frailty an max vulnerability for - elemental resistance. I don't know how good the crow may be be he can restore your hp, a better investment would be brimstone

likme
likme

mfw you hear the moaning in grimwald

King_Martha
King_Martha

@ZeroReborn
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/4ZDMwrkN

hows this?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@likme
You haven't seen nothing, boy. Just wait for the last location.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@BinaryMan
Welp, I found purified salt and imbued silver. A shame there isn't one with a poison/acid resist aura for pets because they have 0% resistance to that right now.

What the fuck do I do when my bar is full? Is this actually limiting? Am I only allowed a certain number of skills?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Soft_member
press y

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Snarelure
wew, cheers lad

JunkTop
JunkTop

@King_Martha
it should be better, you could include termite mine for more fire chaos res reduction if necessary

eGremlin
eGremlin

/vg/thread/192945468#p193070068
i thought the fire resistance reduction was for 5 seconds on every enemy hit by flash freeze and not only the one freezed by it

girlDog
girlDog

So Daila isn't in Mourndale for me anymore.
What quest did I forget to do?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Ok so I played it on win7 upgraded to win10 and it stopped working. What do?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@girlDog
did you return her diary in Homestead?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@PackManBrainlure
registry, reinstall.

girlDog
girlDog

@Bidwell
Tried, tried repair.exe from the game folder, reinstalled video drivers, nothing. Black screen.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

/vg/thread/192945468#p193069182
I dunno.
Still wrecking shit, even more than before with a bit of help from hoarded gear
Even easier than my initial run with a Cabalist, where I slowed down to a crawl because I had to constantly resummon shit because everything had damn aoe.

Evilember
Evilember

@girlDog
you need to remove the old grim dawn registry entrees and clear out the old temp files from roaming.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@eGremlin
It would be overwhelmingly powerful if that were the case. It goes up to -125% Fire Resistance when maxed. That's more resistance reduction than most builds can manage overall with a single skill It's useless against bosses because they don't get frozen.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@AwesomeTucker
Nope.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Item question.
I'm dual wielding pick related, is the chain lightning cooldown global on my character, or is it a weapon specific thing?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@hairygrape
It's per weapon, the only part that wouldn't stack is if it had a utility effect like resistance reduction on it.

likme
likme

@Deadlyinx
I think what he meant is if the procc cooldown is affected by cool down reduction gear

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@likme
Oh if that's the question then no, it isn't affected by %cdr, but stuff like Time Dilation would affect it.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@likme
Nah, he had it right, I was basically wondering if that procc could occur twice over like 1 second.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Achievement: Destroy every gravestone in the Necropolis

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

when you find a direct upgrade

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@hairygrape
Its hilarious how that chain lightning just jumps out of screen to hit enemies you didnt even see.
The range seems kinda stupid.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I need some advice anons
new player
constantly playing and theory crafting for the last week
can't play ranged because I missclick and move to enemy position instead of shooting at them and half of the time I shoot at them at point blank range because I can't run & gun
can't play caster with ability heavily builds because I'm both shit at ranged and can't keep track of my skill cooldowns and I keep pressing the wrong ability keys on my keyboard when trying to be mlg pro or forget about available skills completely for minutes
melee auto attack builds are boring as fuck
pet builds are basically cheating for trash mobs because you can pretty much compare your loots and do other kinds of stuff like looking at the full map while running while your summons clear the trash mobs and only challenge is running around at boss fights while looking at the health bar of your minions to summon them again when they die
Holy shit how do I git gud? I like the game a lot and keep making different builds to try on crucible but I either get bored or play like shit.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@TalkBomber
you can just shift click to attack without moving

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Dreamworx
tfw you dont and Alvericks Rebuke is still stronger than a weapon with twice as much weapon damage

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Dreamworx
Nice. I still have some very low level green stuff at level 50 because they have pet bonuses on them.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Dreamworx
There is no better feeling than finding a purple and replacing one of your greens with it..

girlDog
girlDog

@TalkBomber
1. Use shift click

2. I think a lot of people (including myself) gets hooked into making builds all the time. The thing is you just have to get attached to the most practical build in theory. Use it to farm items. Farming items open up even more rooms for theorycrafting.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@TalkBomber
????????????????
wtf. just bind the standing attack thingy to ALT and press it while left-clicking in the general direction of enemies.
My whole build I'm playing right now might as well be called "hold left mouse-button to delete screen"

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@TalkBomber
play 2h melee reaper, it doesn't have auto attack and you need to go trought only 3 skill + heal and invincibility when necessary

askme
askme

@TalkBomber

i put my attack at 1 so i can keep moving with the mouse.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@girlDog
Did you tried cant launch suggestions in op copypasta too?

DeathDog
DeathDog

Damn, the expansion content is no joke.
If it wasnt for all the stashed legendaries I'm using, I would have a bad time with my semi-viable build here..

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@CouchChiller
@girlDog
@AwesomeTucker
@askme
Thanks a lot for the tip guys now I can play ranged nicely.
@Spazyfool
Which skills do you use for it?

Methshot
Methshot

@lostmypassword
amarasta blade burst, bone harvest and ring of steel with cold res debuff (from murmur) and shadow strike for movement. you go like this ring of steel - abb - bone harvest and repeat. this is the build i'm using but i will respec the devotion and move some points around http://www.grimtools.com/calc/RZR9kLxV
for the start invest some points in necrotic edge and reaping strike + bat constellation

hairygrape
hairygrape

Why does it feel like Kraken didn't help as much as expected with a Primal strike Elementalist? Focusing on Primal strike and grenado with the modifier. The damage is good but I expected more from the Kraken.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@hairygrape
Attack speed maybe. Primal Strike has a cooldown.

takes2long
takes2long

@StonedTime
aren't you supposed to take the modifier to remove cooldown if its your main attack?

Techpill
Techpill

Can you get the outlaw looking armour from the inquisitor picture?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@TurtleCat
not finding a green to replace one of your purples

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Techpill
http://www.grimtools.com/db/itemsets/118

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I've had to replace some non mythical purples with greens for armour and health

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@hairygrape
Maybe your base damage is shit. Taking percentage damage over flat damage at the start isn't going to do you much good.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Is it occultist still a decent second mastery for necromancer if I don't plan on a pet focus?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Need_TLC
what kind of build is this ?

Booteefool
Booteefool

is wendigo totem even worth it for a caster/ranged chararacter? there needs to be an enemy in melee range for it to pulse right?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Evil_kitten
what dmg you want to focus because occultist have nice -vitaly dmg and max poison resist

Snarelure
Snarelure

@lostmypassword
How many damage types can you focus before you start to spread yourself too thin? Looking at necro, and if I'm going with occultist, vit and poison seem like a good focus. But can I focus cold damage too for the bone harvest?

Emberburn
Emberburn

How do I gear for resistances in this game? I'm starting to get my ass handed to me by any damage type I don't have proper resistances to at the end of normal.

I fucking hate this in ARPGs. You can't even fucking trade in this game and the crafting system is horseshit. If it were just Fire/Cold/Light(/Chaos) like in the >good games, sure but what the fuck are the 1024321903 resistances in this game.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Snarelure
you probably shouldn't, if you want to use bone harvest try to get a weapon with poison/vitality damage since bone harvest scales with weapon damage.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Emberburn
It depends on what skills/constellations your char is using

Otherwise these are good starting components for res:

Imbued silver: bleed/chaos
Purified Salt: aether
Ward stone: bleed/elemental
Runestone: aether/elemental
Silk swatch: bleed/pierce

There are more but these are usually the cheapest to get res

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Snarelure
im not too sure but shit is tough as hell in ultimate so i only focus 2 dmg at best and it still not enough point to upgrade all relate dmg
@Emberburn
dont worry many components and Augments help buff resist greatly so get ready to farm some components also dont use all devotion for dmg use them for resist too
until Ultimate

Firespawn
Firespawn

Am I a loser if I copy builds from online instead of doing my own?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Firespawn
Do you feel like a loser having to learn math from a book in primary school?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Firespawn
learn all you can and change if it fit your items

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@King_Martha
Yeah cause math is for shoobies.

FastChef
FastChef

@Firespawn
The hard and cold truth is that nobody cares

hairygrape
hairygrape

@DeathDog
@Poker_Star
Alright, I guess components it is, thanks. I just haven't found anything good for Aether whatsoever and that's what I'm currently struggling with. Vitality and chaos are somewhat hard to get too, at least with the kind of gear I'm using.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@hairygrape
You can switch between them. Usually enemies doing aether aren't doing chaos damage.

For aether you start with Runestone and Purified Salt x 2. The rest comes from your equipments or devotions. Later on you'll have things like Outcast's augments and Aether Soul to fix your resist.

For Chaos: Imbued Silver early game, Black Tallow and Sanctified bone later on

Evilember
Evilember

Dual pistols or rifle and what mastery do I pick to make it work with Negromancer? Inquisitor, Demo or someone else?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Evilember
if you want ranged it's better to go inquisitor + soldier or inquisitor + demo.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@PackManBrainlure
But I want skeletons AND guns since I can't have skeletons WITH guns.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@New_Cliche
with this game you either go full pet or go home

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@GoogleCat
@New_Cliche
It's basically the same as with damage types, spread yourself too thin in what you do and you will do a lot of things that dont even tickle the enemies.
You can pull it of in normal and maybe pre-malmouth elite, but once the game actually starts getting interesting you need a cohesive build or you get nowhere.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

what skills should I put my devotion procs on?
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/RZR9kW0V
I've got Assassin, Assassin's Blade, Dryad, Harp, Bat, and Unknown Soldier, with a fuckton of skills to put them on. Probably gonna go Dryad on War Cry though, because it's a 100% chance on attack for that skill.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@New_Cliche
you can get some pets that scale with player bonuses from devotion but if you want to reach higher difficulties you need to choose between the two or you won't have enough damage. The best you can do is go full pets occultist necromancer and go with 1 gun to support you pet

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Evilember
Negromancer

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Crazy_Nice
wow these Aetherial behemoth in ultimate are fucking tough and hit like a truck

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Deadlyinx
yeah, running around to make them miss their first attack is the only option for me..

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I'm following this Dreeg's Evil Eye build, and I'm a bit confused about the stats the guy chose:
http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29256

60 phys, 8 Cunning and 13 Spirit with 6 available points
Why isn't he going into Spirit more than Phys if he's going for a caster build? I thought Spirit was what gave you the magic DPS.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Dreamworx
Cunning and spirit are for gear requirements only, the stats they give are basically nothing compared to what you get from gear. Physique is the most important, as you need every point of health you can get

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Dreamworx
DPS is no good if you are not alive or having to run without casting

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Sir_Gallonhead
they have xbox huge physical dmg or something hit through my shield like wet tissue
@Dreamworx
dont worry Spirit only add little dmg only mostly use for mana and gear phys is highly needed for survival
also careful it is old guide

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Carnalpleasure
It was pretty much the first Warlock DEE build I found.

Flameblow
Flameblow

enemies can be over level 100

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Flameblow
mfw a bunch of lv106 Aetherial colosus run at 50mph gang rape your char

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Has anyone beat the expac on ultimate HC yet?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@BunnyJinx
yes I've seen a screenshot of that recently.
It was some 2h ranged build I think

Playboyize
Playboyize

So, about farming items. What are the top spots for a new player? I have one level 100 melee guy with bad gear.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Crazy_Nice
nice there is quest that reward stat
wait do i have to replay all difficulty for expansion for the stat quest now? fuck

Flameblow
Flameblow

Where do I farm Exterminus and/or other legendary pistols?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@BunnyJinx
@Evil_kitten
Thing is nobody knows if it's legit hc or not, so it's for shit

Evilember
Evilember

I'm playing a negroshaman focusing mostly on summons, I've been running 2h, bone harvest mod and the shaman perks + kraken has been fun, but it seems like 1h+OH or dual wield has much better weapons for a pet class.

Worth the respecing to switch?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Can you completely respec your class if you refund everything in it down to 0?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Harmless_Venom
no, masteries stay at 1

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Harmless_Venom
you mean mastery? no

King_Martha
King_Martha

Anyone found any secret Notes in the expansion content?

Emberburn
Emberburn

What do you do in the Tomb of Harold?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@StrangeWizard
@Gigastrength
Fuck. Whats the fastest way to level a new character? I've seen people talk about exp tonics but I havn't seen those in my game yet.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Stupidasole
anyone?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Emberburn
there's a quest that gives a hint what's special there

girlDog
girlDog

@Skullbone
Crucible.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Should I get all the points in the crossroads before branching out?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

If I delay picking my class long enough, can join Kymon's Chosen and then pick Necromancer?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

I want to go 2h melee necromancer, if shaman a good second mastery if I don't plan on using pets? Warrior seems better but I find the warrior skills super dull.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Snarelure
do what ever you want you can respec later but most of the time you only focus on 1 branch first

askme
askme

@Snarelure
you literally never want to do that how would you even get that idea

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

What faction gives experience potions?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Sharpcharm
malmouth

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Skullbone
the tonic are in the dlc faction, last rank but you can share those

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Is this purifier
durable
powerful
fast
enough?
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/62avdYEV
Also which devotion to bind to
fire strike
flames of ignaffar
When devotions says radious they mean attack AoE and when they say range they mean furthest area they effect, so a short range is shit for fire strike but actually great for flames of ignaffar, right?

Firespawn
Firespawn

@VisualMaster
Shaman doesn't really synergize with necromancer at all for non pet builds.
You can try nightblade for cold damage or maybe occultist if you don't want soldier.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Who is your favorite god?

massdebater
massdebater

@Need_TLC
@JunkTop
Ah damn I dont have any chars that can get to that quickly. Guess I'll just deal with it.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@TurtleCat
Oleron
lost family to war
charges into every battle hoping to die so he can be reunited with them
never dies because he's too good of a warrior

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

/vg/thread/192945468#p193008171
read Creed's notes throughout the first act
wonder what ended up happening to him
many hours later see Creed's name on a note in Homestead
walk up stairs and the man himself is there

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@AwesomeTucker
And the fucking player keeps stealing his notes.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Wew, what the hell is this, i want to do build around it

Methnerd
Methnerd

"Yessssss the tiny net is a death sentence. It's a net! And it's tiny!"

takes2long
takes2long

@Firespawn
I really wanted something to replace my default attack though. Shammy has some fun ones.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@TurtleCat
Solael just pure cunt
also have nice blade

Playboyize
Playboyize

I love feral hunger so much. How everything suddenly dies as you get healed to full health.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@TalkBomber
1. That's good

2. Use shift to force standstill. Bind something you like to move only and use that to move instead of left click (and use move only all the time).
a. Use move only to move away from an enemy, put your cursor on the enemy, use force standstill to attack enemy, then use move only to run away. That's how you run and gun.

3. Get into a rotation with a ton of abilities and use the same key bind for the same ability across different characters (eg I use w for flashbang on every character that has it). Forgetting abilities and losing finger placement should lessen with time. You could always just focus on a few skills and max them

4. They're also very strong

5. ? I think that's the point of pet builds. From what I've heard the new content demands more micromanaging of them anyway

Holy shit how do I git gud?
Play more. These games don't have a high skill ceiling and practically lack a learning curve in the motor skill department. Learning the game mechanics is just about time more or less and gd isn't particularly advanced in that aspect (also copying what other people have done)

I like the game a lot and keep making different builds
Stick with one unless it completely falls apart, if not for experiencing the late game then for the xp potions

crucible
bored
Just do the story mode for leveling

play like shit
Make a concentrated effort for 2 & 3 and you should get the hang of it within a week unless you're disabled or some shit

likme
likme

@Nojokur
2H SS Witchunter I'm gonna guess. Scale poison damage

Methshot
Methshot

@Fried_Sushi
No, no, and no. You need Devotions, gear, and allocated Attribute points to determine is a build is durable, powerful, and strong.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Can you rape people in this game?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@takes2long
Well occultist has Solael's Witchfire.
You can do *teleports behind you* nothin personnel build with nightshade.
Best auto attack would be soldier with Cadence, there's no going around it, but yes, it's kinda boring.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Fried_Sushi
ignoring the fact that you have no devotions, no gear, and no attributes allotted, you're missing half of your inquis mastery, several points from blast shield, you're missing steel resolve for the res and damage, you don't have inquis seal and it's branch, you're missing deadly aim and flashbang, and you have to choose between Flames and Fire Strike, it's not viable to have both. Your build is not going to be durable, fast, or powerful

Lunatick
Lunatick

Anybody have some really weird issues with this game locking your PC? If I adjust my volume at all when in-game, it basically locks my PC up and I can't do anything because it's like the game is fighting for dominance over the volume indicator overlay or something. The only way for me to unlock my PC is to push the power button for it to go to sleep and then turn it back on.

idontknow
idontknow

@Lunatick
Sounds fucky. Are you using bluetooth

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I havn't gotten around to play with someone else, how does trading/item sharing work in this game? Can I give them items that require rep to buy if they dont have that rep?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@AwesomeTucker
The notes are swiftly becoming my favorite part of the game.
Thus far, have always fit the character they are trying to portray
Variety of them in terms of topic and construction
I'm taking my time and just exploring everything and it's so satisfying.
Reading about the Last Days of Arkovia

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Lunatick
I think I'll go with nightblade. It has a long list of fun sounding passive abilities at the top. Should I grab them all?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Lunatick
try using borderless window, if you aren't alredy

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Soft_member
Should I go for Elite after Act 4, or try to beat Act 5 first?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Fried_Sushi
So why do you have points in guns and flames of ignaffer at the same time? CD-less spells and attack modifiers compete with each other, so you should only put your points into one of them.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Anybody got a link for the Nightblade teleport aids build?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Soft_member
I use borderless window. Maybe I'll try fullscreen.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

I'm finally got around and going my Callidor build. I'm liking it so far.

viagrandad
viagrandad

I wish Bone Harvest's cast range was longer. Even with the +range skill it still feels too short

Techpill
Techpill

What's the wall of flesh in the Fleshworks? Malmouth resistance revered quest? Also, where's the new roguelike dungeon?

SniperGod
SniperGod

All the random Lore drops in the Arkovian Undercity first floor
What the fuck. There's t least 4 of these damn things after you finish the mini-quest.
Forbidden Art 1-3
Passing Judgement
I never thought I'd be grinding for lore.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@viagrandad
What +range skill? The 2h mod reduces the range

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

tfw Inquisitor's Seal is so good that you decide to take on the Steps of Torment as soon as you gain access to it and you end up completely ok

happy_sad
happy_sad

Demo or Soldier with a 2h inqui?
I already did a dual wield ranged character and I wanna make an inquisitor

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Deadlyinx
if you never played the game before you should do act 5 before elite, get the 5 more shrines and start building the new faction reputation

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Can someone explain the point of Iskandra's Elemental Exchange to me? Is it supposed to be something to help a caster who uses pistols or what?
My Tactician damage build doesn't use any skills at all, but then my Warlock caster build doesn't use basic attacks ever, so what's the point?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Methnerd
Yeah, I'm trying to do that right now, but I don't think I have the resist to push through it

happy_sad
happy_sad

@lostmypassword
Is it super good? I have it at level 4 now, and while it seems OK, I don't really notice too much of a difference, plus it's rather annoying to lay down at my feet.

Inmate
Inmate

@Techpill
Coven of Ugdenbog, not sure if you need to be honored or revered. New dungeon will be added later, dunno when.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@happy_sad
flat damage absorption
elemental resistance
+% health regen
fire damage to anything inside it
Yeah, it's super good.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Evil_kitten
Elemental damage auto attack builds can make use of it. Can be used to boost damage of summons.

Any and every build will want one point in it to reach Elemental Damage for the crit dramage %.

iluvmen
iluvmen

How strong is the Ravager if you attack him like the avatar of Mogdrogen? I want to try it on Normal but don't want to lost reputation. Anyone tried it before?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@happy_sad
It reduces individual instances of damage. At max it makes DoTs do nothing because each tick is an individual instance of damage. It buffs your elemental damage resistance by a lot too. You can slap it down in a fight and facetank entire waves because they will do zero damage to you at lower levels.

idontknow
idontknow

How's bastion of chaos for farming i have crucible.

I finished the main story and went straigth to the DLC , should i just veteran mode or just finish the exp?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Burnblaze
in normal you don't really need any resist for act 5, at least i didn't pay any attention to it. maybe you focused too much on damage in you masteries/devotion or you have too low hp. try posting your build on grimtools you can upload your save on it too

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Carnalpleasure
It's actually more of a resist for my skeletons problem :(

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

How do I synergise Soldier + Inquisitor?

Seems like everything is either ranged or spellcasting.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Flameblow
what masteries do you have? As i said try to post your build on grimtools so it's easier to see

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@CodeBuns
Cadence with all the inquisitor procs and seal.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@CodeBuns
Did I put too much into Spirit?

hairygrape
hairygrape

@GoogleCat
lol

SniperGod
SniperGod

@GoogleCat
didn't mean to reply to anyone

RavySnake
RavySnake

psssht nothing personel but i must reap you're soul, kid

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@GoogleCat
Don't be a glass cannon.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@GoogleCat
always put points into physique unless you are at endgame and need cunning/spirit for gear

Evilember
Evilember

@ZeroReborn
Even if I play with friends who typically soak up damage for me?

massdebater
massdebater

@GoogleCat
lv 16
higher spirit than me lv 100
heh

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@GoogleCat
Doesn't matter, you can reset your stats later.
But yeah, spirit isn't good value at any point in the game while physique is amazing the entire time.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Evilember
accidentally draw aggro
walking dead sneezes on you
die

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Burnblaze
Yes, but only undead lolis. The devs were very strict about it.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@RavySnake
is this nighblade so you can teleport behind people and unsheathes scythes

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Crazy_Nice
So it's not worth it to use something like this yellow gear with a lot of spirit over the green gear?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Sir_Gallonhead
if you dare to talk about teleporting even once more, i wont hesitate to kill you in brutal manner

idontknow
idontknow

God damn those artillery flowers in Act 5 are annoying.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@RavySnake
We posting transmogs now?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Spazyfool
So it's not worth it to use something like this yellow gear with a lot of spirit over the green gear?
no i every spirit point is like +0.33% magic damage, the only thing you want to look at are resistances and +%damage on the type of damage you are using at this low level

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Flameblow
My friend told me that I should be looking for percentages at higher level and straight +# increases at my lower level. Guess I'll have to rethink my items.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

What software should I use to play via "LAN" over the internet? Is there anything non-bloatware Hamachi-like?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Spazyfool
It's better due to the +3% all damage but no, spirit is barely noticeable damage wise, look for +% to your damages types instead, those are mcuh more important while spirit/cunning should only be used to wear specific gear.
I'd say just make sure you spend at least 50 attribute points into physique to wear almost every armor until ultimate.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@TurtleCat
Ulzuin

RavySnake
RavySnake

@CodeBuns
yes at low level +flat damage can be better but it depends on how much flat damage you already have. Anyway at low levels it doesn't really matter, try to prioritise damage, hp and resistance

askme
askme

@TurtleCat
Empyrion, Blessed be his that smite the unholy.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

What class to pair dual pistols inquisitor with?
Shaman with all savagery line and both totems for lighting vindcator maybe?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

go trough the whole game without paying attention to the notes
start reading them while running trough already cleared area
actually well written and interesting

Fuck. Last time i regretted something this much was when i didnt pull out of my mom

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Having two weapon loadouts is oto overwhelming. I don't see the point.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@LuckyDusty
Demolitionist. No contest.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@BunnyJinx
I've played through the entire game without ever paying attention to what any NPC says.
I have no idea what the story is, even when I have more than a 100 hours in the game.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@TurtleCat
It's really good, especially Barrowholm, notes of Creed, Uroboruuk and such.

WebTool
WebTool

@TurtleCat
I did that first time I played it. Blazed through Act 1 to 4. Now I'm reading every piece of lore I find and it's actually pretty interesting

Lunatick
Lunatick

The google doc for the various resistance/OA/DA/Damage debuffs got updated, might be a good idea to link in the OP each thread.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Vw7I9fTSqtx9s3a4WVvkgiOGZ7leM81n1H1RrwrOzLc/htmlview

idontknow
idontknow

@Harmless_Venom
try to take all the cool stuff from both of them
don't have enough points even at the max level if I try to max half of the skills up
pls help

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@JunkTop
Also, I made a Spellbinder (arcanist necro) and Kymon's rejected me without even considering (nice touch desu if you are a necro). I was baffled beacuse I always went with Kymon. I thought the Order was all edgy necros about MUH DEATH. Then I joined them, read the quests and notes and turns out, they are pretty cool guys. I never looked back but I fear I'll get rekt by the Maiden when she appears.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Harmless_Venom
warrior is kinda cool too

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Does faction rep carry over between difficulties?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Fried_Sushi
Yes.

askme
askme

@Fried_Sushi
Yes! And that means you can't switch factions throughout difficulties because their reps will get reset and leave you with 0 rep friendly faction (basically useless)

Methnerd
Methnerd

http://www.grimtools.com/calc/dVbKgEkZ
Thats what I currently have, but Im not sure what is worth to level as a lightning 2h melee and what isnt.
Im trying to get Turle/Crab/Chariot next and then trying to get Ultos or Spear of Heavens.

I feel like Iskandras is, because of the phys conversion, maybe Elemental Balance aswell for the crit damage.
Mirror for 18 sec CD.
More points into Arcane Will?
I really dislike Inner Focus, but since OA is everything later on, I kinda have to.
Im not sure if Conversion for Maivens is worth it, but it sounds good, because of all the CC later on.
Maybe a point in Nullification aswell, but I never seem to get it to work.

For shaman Im definitly maxing -ele res and Wendigo totem.
Not sure about Torrent and Storm Surge.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Alright, so how exactly do i go about farming gear now that ive completed the story on all difficulties? Just do boss runs?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

What should I do?

I'm a bit worried about losing 45% health, but at the same time I'd be gaining more defensive ability, +2 to summon hellhound, and a lot more damage.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Emberburn
crucible

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Emberburn
Skeleton Key areas, Nemesis spawns, Crucible

farquit
farquit

@Evil_kitten
@RavySnake
So bossruns are a thing of the past? Man i was kinda hoping it was like diablo 2.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@farquit
Boss runs are still a thing; I just listed other options

Playboyize
Playboyize

Uroboruuk did nothing wrong

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Playboyize
Spoken like a true Vigil cuck

iluvmen
iluvmen

@VisualMaster
Hmm, I bought and equipped them (after augment of course); my skellies lost 2k health. Lets see how things go.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@VisualMaster
Get both.
If something is alive by the time they swarm them and they manage to kill them, just summon more. Plus you have blood of dreeg.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Bidwell
Oh alright

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Snarelure
why don't you go back to sucking Kymon's dick you brainwashed fuck

Flameblow
Flameblow

@VisualMaster
Legion Mark one of the best medals in slot for Normal-Elite, but it gives only damage.
Better only legend ones and Combat Medic medal to keep your pets alive.
Also do not buy now, reroll vendor to make it have max possible 12% OA.
http://www.grimtools.com/db/items/7132
This tip works for every fraction armor, for example 70 lvl Rovers Shoulders and Armor one of the best for pet builds and easy to obtain, but need some time to roll good stats on them.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Why did they make this skill strictly summoner beneficial, kinda boring design.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@askme
You can always max out rep in one difficulty, stock up on their faction items, then choose something else for the next difficulty.

WebTool
WebTool

@Stupidasole
might as well complain about bonds of bysmiel and manipulation, faggot

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Stupidasole
bothering to attack when boners wreck shit
you got overlording all wrong

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

How's this for a FUCKING INVINCIBLE devotion set up

(not shown is Rhowan's Scepter)

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Stupidasole
I mean, do you take every Skill node in Shaman when playing a Primal Strike build? Lord no.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Treasure toves aren't a guaranteed spawn, right?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@PackManBrainlure
They are a guaranteed spawn, however their positions are randomized. Every chest has a specific set of areas where it can spawn every session.

For example, there's always one chest in the Bastion of Chaos. There's like 5 different locations for it.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

So I'm going 2h melee Reaper. With a class name like that, please tell me I can find scythes in this game.

Illusionz
Illusionz

@lostmypassword
Yes, plenty.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@lostmypassword
There are 14 2H Axes in the game with the word Scythe in their name. There are more without it in their name. There are also 6 1H Axes with the word Scythe in their name. Pretty sure there's more of those too. Here's a shot of a guy holding 2 reapers or any other 1H Axe skinned with one of the 1H Reaper skins. @RavySnake

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@TreeEater
How many spawn points in mountain deeps?
I've been led to believe it has 3, but sometimes it isn't there in any of them.

SniperWish
SniperWish

You can do searing strike while dual wielding right?
Also should I rush to inquisitors seal?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@SniperWish
Yes, yes.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@GoogleCat
I have the same issue too, I don't know all the spawn points

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Yo so I'm level fucking 90 now and still don't have a Blueprint for an Inferno relic, which I need to build every other later tier relic I want.

Can anyone help me out?

Illusionz
Illusionz

Can you give me a hint as to where i'll find the next rune? Is it behind the big stone door in east marsh? If not, could you tell me what's the deal with that too.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Crazy_Nice
I can only craft you up to 8 - if that helps.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Playboyize
I made a game titled Need Inferno Please

This shit tho. You need all these low level relics to make the later game relics, but once you level out of the low level range THE BPs STOP DROPPING.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Illusionz
the big stone door in eastmarsh is when you have all 3 stones.

the third is in the arkovian mountains i think, near the long fortress path. goes underneath it.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Illusionz
Between Asterkan Road and Asterkan valley waypoints

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Stupidasole
asterkan not arkovian. durr

hard to remember n

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@BunnyJinx
Would love to help, but the Server list doesnt show up and just entering the name and joining just says "unable to connect to server"

Methnerd
Methnerd

@PackManBrainlure
Speaking of which, did they make them not drop legendaries anymore because people were abusing it or am I just very unlucky?

Emberfire
Emberfire

im ready to PURGE

HERETICS

Evilember
Evilember

@Fried_Sushi
Well I tried remaking this time on normal, was on ultimate before

Methshot
Methshot

I want to be a summonmancer but also wade in and fuck shit up with my bonerfriends. Is Necro-nightblade a good combo? Or should I just go maximum summons and necroccultist?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Emberfire
Needs more scrolls.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Methshot
on my necroccultist i have the mark of dreeg on my shield, and have been using the skill it gives with the guardians gaze devotion.

im only around level 30 but its pretty fun to run headfirst into enemies with my skeltals and then unleash eyeball.

hairygrape
hairygrape

How good is expansion? is it long? I played original mainly for the story.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

tfw Gutworm's chest drops Empowered and Mythical Termor

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@hairygrape
It's great. Approximately 2 acts long.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@lostmypassword
even if you can't, you can use the illusionist to make it look like one :^)

Illusionz
Illusionz

You guys run this game maxed with max fps?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Crazy_Nice
Steps of Torment is probably your best bet.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@TurtleCat
Dreeg

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Should I go into Ultimate since it unlocked due to level despite what gear I have? I feel like going through the expansion on Veteran boosted me and carried over in Elite where I tried to gear up and ended up at 80.

FastChef
FastChef

How does Bloody Pox damage work?

has 5s duration
does X vitality damage
does Y bleeding damage per second

Does the vitality damage only work the first time a target is hit by the pox? How best should I scale it, since bleed seems to be the best.

Here is what I have now:

http://www.grimtools.com/calc/wV1wlQnN

I picked arcanist for the survivability from Maiven's and Mirror as well as some OFF, but nightblade was a close 2nd with bleeding & vit damage and pneumatic burst. I left the devotion tree empty due to not understanding the scaling, but Mogdrogen looks good since it has a lot of bleed damage and duration but I dunno if the duration works on BP.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@GoogleCat
i kind of felt the same problem. i went through and did all the quests through veteran and got almost every faction to honored and by the time i was done

level 63 in veteran.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Stupidasole
Uhhm why isn't every skill the same and useful for every character? Boring design desu.

Methshot
Methshot

Skelebros with flame torrent

Dank yo ,this is fucking neat.
I'm planning going shaman as secondary class , how are skellies in late game?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@GoogleCat
@Booteefool
Four.
@Methnerd
I did like 40-60 runs and didn't get a single Legendary from a Trove.

Methshot
Methshot

@MPmaster
I just farmed this trove for an hour at x2 speed with cheat engine. Did about 50 runs and got 1.
Got a lot of useless blue recipes. Not a single new relic recipe.
It's probably not even worth doing.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Methshot
It's probably not even worth doing.
For Legendaries certainly not, but you almost always get a Brain, Heart or Blood and it drops a good amount of blueprints if you don't have all of them yet.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@FastChef
When an ability has a duration and flat damage, the flat damage ticks every second. The vitality / bleeding damage you see are basically refreshed every second.

Even if the ability doesn't deal damage, if it has a duration it'd tick every second: Curse of Frailty can proc celestial powers like crazy because of this

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Playboyize
condemned his people to an afterlife of torment
nothing wrong

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Is nemesis farming worth it?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Methshot
They're great still but you need to be a dedicated pet build for any summon to really stand up (apart from the familiar which seems to be ignored by enemies)

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Aside from cold, what other damage should I focus on as a reaper?

girlDog
girlDog

@Deadlyinx
If you can find and take them down in a reasonable time, sure.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Pairing occulltist focusing on hellhounds with demo is a good idea right? If so, is there anyway to get more hellhounds?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@MPmaster
Five actually, it can also spawn by the shrine.

@Methshot
@CodeBuns
I ran about 35 treasure troves last night/this morning and got fuck all. Well, I got 2 relic blueprints from my first 2 troves, then FUCK ALL every other trove.

At least I have mats and mad iron bits now.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

tfw

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Boy_vs_Girl
94 Legendary set gives +1 to Hellhound summon limit. Next best thing is to look for something that reduces its cooldown.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Any legs that actually give you pet bonuses?

Literally the only piece of kit I'm wearing that doesn't benefit either my classes or my pets. My helm doesn't give a straight pet bonus but gives me +1 to all necro skills.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Is fighting Barrowholm worth it?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Bidwell
I don't think that's still accurate. It never spawned next to the shrine for me.

farquit
farquit

So, what's the story with Ulgrim?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@farquit
hes a really old super human

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@farquit
He's best boy.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Need_TLC
Odd, because I definitely had it spawn by the shrine a few times for me the other night, and others have said it spawned for them there too.

Really though it's not actually that random... I mean for 10 runs in a row it was in the same location for me.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Guys please help me!
I need something to play, something that levels decently through veteran and then doesnt need some mythical set to be good end-game.
Im playing legit and not spawning items like all the build designers, I just dont know what to do.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Flameblow
I've only found greens with affixes that give pet stats, I don't think there are many epic/legendary leggings with bonuses.

@lostmypassword
They're easy to get to Nemesis if you fight, it doesn't feel like it has an impact. Plus you miss out on augments and blueprints. I also hear you miss out on fighting Ravager since their Nemesis is basically the weaker version of it.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Emberfire
do you feel like just holding RIGHT CLICK

and watching boolets proc lightning storms and volcanos and tsunamis?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Crazy_Nice
Why is there no torrent link in the OP?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Flameblow
Sure there are, but not that many outside of greens.
Dread Knight's Legplates
Rifthound legwraps.
Wildshorn Legguards

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Stark_Naked
is there a good demo/inquisitor build going around?
i just dont want to roll something and it ends up being shit/hurr da durr time to open cheat engine and spawn a full mythical set

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@lostmypassword
If you kill their ravager, do they start to hate you?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@LuckyDusty
no im an inquisitor/soldier

just using full ele cadence with all the procs and auras from inquisitor and soldier

Skullbone
Skullbone

@iluvmen
I require a bump in my comment for I know not which anons have found a working torrent

I refuse to support Gaben's doughnut diet

girlDog
girlDog

@Sharpcharm
Doesn't seem to be the case.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Skullbone
Gaben
Pirate Bay or buy it through Humble Bundle.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@StrangeWizard
Anyone?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@ZeroReborn
@LuckyDusty
@Stark_Naked

here i through it together in a build really quick.
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/O2GWO4n2

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Playboyize
GOG is an option too.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@girlDog
So their dialogue doesn't change at all?

I wonder if it's any different if you fight it the first time it's summoned (when it's surrounded by the NPCs)

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Spamalot
Physical or maybe vit since I guess you're gonna use bone harvest but idk

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Does the expansion add any kind of power creep that makes Mogdrogen less of a beast?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Nude_Bikergirl
@lostmypassword
@Flameblow
no pet stuff huh?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Stark_Naked
I went back to check and it seems like only Ravager has new dialogue.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

KILL THE NON-BELIEVER

happy_sad
happy_sad

How do you fight Ravager?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

I want to remake my character but dont want to spend the 15+ hours doing it. Whats the fastest way to get a character to ~40? I am ok with cheese strats, mods, or shit like that.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

DEATH IS ONLY THE BEGINNING

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@JunkTop
I'd love some leggings with those stats.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Does x% of attack damage converted to health work for spells like aether ray?

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Spazyfool
THE FASTEST way is to just use GDStash, a 3rd-party program. The fastest way if you don't wana use 3rd party stuff is to pick either Shaman or Occultist and pick Swarm/Dreeg's Eye once you get a moment. Take the new character intot he Crucible and suicide a few times by running into the death fog after starting a round, then go collect the loot each time. Amass a bit of Scrap and Bits, sell excess, then go build the bridge to Act 2. From there, rush Martin, rush Cronley, ignore quests, and just keep rushing.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Sharpcharm
only if its in the spell itself or if it has weapon damage scaling

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Sharpcharm
I don't think so. Only to damage done with your weapon and maybe spells that do a percent of weapon damage

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@happy_sad
You can piss him off via dialogue options and then get the option to (misguidedly) attack him. The fight's hard as fuck and if you're on hardcore stay far away from it.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Supergrass
Alright, cool. In the case of weapon scaling, does only the damage dealt contributed by the weapon scaling convert to health?

massdebater
massdebater

@Stark_Naked
Correct. In addition, skill modifiers on a given skill apply to that Skill as well.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Nojokur
How does GDstash help? I thought it was just an infinite stash mod.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Fuzzy_Logic
So he's straight-up a second Mogdrogen.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Carnalpleasure
God, I'm fucking tired. I actually forgot what the editor is called and subbed in that. My bad.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@PackManBrainlure
They're both gods, yeah

viagrandad
viagrandad

@PackManBrainlure
I mean, he is another god-like being whose fleshbound form you can summon into the world through a semi-long questline.
So yeah, he is the mogdrogen of malmouth

Techpill
Techpill

@PackManBrainlure
Essentially yeah, though I guess he's easier since he doesn't summon anything (at least the two forms I've fought, dunno about the third) and is melee only for the most part.

@Carnalpleasure
@Lunatick
GDStash has a character editor in it.

Inmate
Inmate

@Fuzzy_Logic
What's the questline though? My bad. Is it a Barrow rep deal?

likme
likme

@Inmate
Yeah I think it's at honored rep that they give you that quest.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Whos the chick on the loading screen of the Expansion and why theres no porn of her.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@TurtleCat
Nobody and no idea.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@JunkTop
WEW

Emberfire
Emberfire

@TurtleCat
It is a mystery.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Lunatick
i have a bunch of end game pet stuff in my stash.
Which is ironic since I'm literally never going to do a pet build.

idontknow
idontknow

someone chuck me a dope ass build that owns and has no gear reqs for end game

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Can you get more skill / stat points as rewards other than 1 skill from kasparov and 1 stat from ghost lady?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Can I get some feedback on my devotions?

http://www.grimtools.com/calc/YVWPjjJZ

I'm not sure about the lantern and wouldn't mind some extra resistance but I think I did better than usual for a first pass. I'll shuffle the skills as I go about finding gear and breakpoints and testing effectiveness but feel free to comment on those too. I've heard Ravenous Earth and Bone Harvest are better than Drain Essence but I still want to try out drain-tanking.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@idontknow
I think malmouth is too hard a content for there to be a build that manages it in ultimate without "gear reqs"

King_Martha
King_Martha

@idontknow
dw firestrike saboteur, dee witchhunter, probably any sorta commando or witchblade build

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

i got the elite dlc but i'm starting to have problems with spike of damage i would die instantly to some attack of loghorrean and the double claw attack of caraxxus. this wasn't due to crit because i checked and caraxxus had 0% crit chance on me.
So i was thinking of changing my devotion from http://www.grimtools.com/calc/O2GWOOk2
gatting more hp from behemot (cutting bat) and scythe what is a good constellation from yellow? I was thinking dryad or tortoise + 1 in the crossroad

askme
askme

@Need_TLC
Donate those items to someone with a pet build if you ever happen to play online

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Nude_Bikergirl
Not really a fan of turtle but other than that it looks alright. With the right setup you can get Dying God, Rattosh, Wendigo, and Manticore for more rr but what you have isn't bad.

idontknow
idontknow

@Need_TLC
Fookin ell

tfw playing pet class and will probably never have these drop

Snarelure
Snarelure

complete all of the quests just because
discover the whole Dear Daila questline
the Other You quest which is basically answers your origins

This game is awesome. What's up with Dear Daila tho? I found her in Mourndale already and after giving her the flower, it's over. Am I missing something or it's ultimate only like the first part?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Snarelure
yeah it's ultimate only

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Holy fuck the ravager rapes my ass even at normal difficulty.

girlDog
girlDog

first encounter with Kupacabra
Jesus H. Christ.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Need_TLC
implying I don't have 2 of those

Flameblow
Flameblow

@VisualMaster
I wish there was female armour looking as good as this

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Blade burst of Ring of Steel? I only have enough points to sink into one.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@girlDog

first real playthrough
make it to ulti, stay on elite to do AoM
make it to the ugdenbog
take a few steps
see kupa running at me
try to fight it, minions die instantly
try to run through the zone
ends up following me to the nearest rift
exit to main menu

Never again

Flameblow
Flameblow

is flames of ignaffar good enough to base a buid around it? I'm undecided between that or ranged with demo

Supergrass
Supergrass

@BunnyJinx
Not that but
finish elite, only AoM left
look through normal quest what I've missed
Ravager
let's rape him
he rapes me in 2 seconds even when I'm lvl 77 at normal

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Supergrass
I don't think Ravager is supposed to spawn lower than level 75 to begin with.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@BunnyJinx
I had to cheese this piece of shit but constantly diving in and out of a cellar and resummoning my army.
It deals bleed damage, which is almost impossible to get pet resists for, so he just fucking annihilates them. Not to mention he just leeches himself back to fucking full health with one attack because it hits all of them.
The loot wasn't even worth it. Never bothered with him again.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Deadlyinx

Seemingly he regenerates chunks of health when things die nearby him, so he's pretty AIDS as a summoner.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@StrangeWizard
he was like 86. on normal

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@AwesomeTucker
Yeah stuff scales with you, some things harder than other

Supergrass
Supergrass

This is currently my necro/shaman dude

Should I max out call of the grave or get will of the crypt?

also, I think I heard something about weapon buffs working on pets. Can someone clarify that for me?

Nojokur
Nojokur

For a lightning conversion savagery build, should I push for Stormcaller's Pact for the conversion + damage + more damage or Aura of Censure for that sweet resist reduction?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Ooga booga where my summoner bros at?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@PurpleCharger
Ayy skeleparty is always rollin. It never stops cause undead dont have to sleep.

5mileys
5mileys

is prm/devastation still good?

takes2long
takes2long

Is it worth 8 tainted brain/blood/ancient heart to craft legs at the tyrant hold vendor?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@CodeBuns
Please advise. Other abilities are summons and bone harvest. 2h build.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@PurpleCharger
Hello

askme
askme

@Supergrass
Will of the crypt, but putting 1 and pushing to master of Death might be a decent Idea too, since both give conversion to vitality.
You can also get devotions that give you like +100% vitality damage.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

tfw bleed death knight actually works with mythical guillotine
I love the reset potions and being able to take points out of the mastery bar, without them so many late game mythic legendary enabled builds wouldnt be possible or would take super precise stat planning and mountains of aether shards to do.

idontknow
idontknow

@5mileys
prm
Was never really good, but it is functional in that you can clear the game with it. Might be less bad now that it has some neat endgame support.
devastation
Is still very good

@Nojokur
Hard call since Sotrmcaller's also gives fat crit damage. Could always try both and see which feels better.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@idontknow
So aura of conviction is not even an option?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@RavySnake
The phys res and OA are definitely valuable so I guess you could consider that too. I'd think Censure or Stormcaller's would be better though, but again no idea as I haven't tried a Vindicator yet.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@5mileys
Yes, you just need to survive.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@5mileys
There's a green helm that converts 100% aether damage to elemental on Devastation.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Hello /gdg/

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Skullbone
retaliation build?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Need_TLC
Retaliation doesn't work if enemies can't hit you.

takes2long
takes2long

@Methshot
using cheat engine
What's the point? Just spawn yourself items then

viagrandad
viagrandad

What build should I play if I want to play the strongest one?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@ZeroReborn
I mean, you are probably never ever gonna die which of course is amazing, but its gonna take 2 minutes to kill an average hero enemy unless you got some amazing trick up your sleeve

SniperGod
SniperGod

@takes2long
Because I still want the randomness element but I'm not masochistic enough to walk at snail pace through the same area while doing that.

Soft_member
Soft_member

What does chaos damage taste like?

takes2long
takes2long

Do you guys do every single quest on new characters? Seems like it would get dull. or do you just max rep on 1 or something

Booteefool
Booteefool

@takes2long
Like the dick of a dead and rotten god

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Booteefool

I'm not familiar with that quest

cum2soon
cum2soon

@viagrandad
Extremely situational.
Do you want to be the most effective build ever, or feel badass?
How much gear do you have access to?

If you're starting out fresh with fuckall items, the simultaneously most effective and safest thing you can probably do is pets. But I'm saying this as a hardcore player, so...

It's somewhat subjective, because it also depends on what you do. If you don't plan on doing Crucible, you don't need to have insane survivability. If you don't play hardcore, you don't care about dying, ever, so you can run full offense.

@viagrandad
Image related.
I intended this to be a multiplayer debuff/support build, but it sort of devolved into something nigh invincible that still deals adequate damage because Reign of Ice and Fire has yet to be completely neutered by being given a cooldown.

I've actually progressed pretty well up until I got 2 of the ring; just having 4 damaging debuffs triggering 3 more on its own is pretty damn mighty. Max+10 Word of Pain is also really painful, although I've dropped skill bonuses for that by now.

Spreadsheet is a little outdated, I've dropped 15% resist reduction for a total of, I believe, -80%-ish total speed.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

spot a guy, dying on the road
"help, some dude backstabbed me for a bunch of scraps"
catch up with the guy
"he tried to rape my daughter!!"
call him out on his bullshit
proceed on my merry way
couple of hours later
girl says I killed his father
mfw

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@cum2soon
Pet builds are tough to build now. Not because they are super hard to play, but with all the options you have, its hard to nail down the "most effective" balance between classes, pets and survivability while having enough offense to proc all your devotions.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@TurtleCat
Necro + Occult. Powerful debuff that can proc devotions from Occult, powerful damage absorption when necessary from Necro, shit tons of pets. Full physique investment ensures high health, and careful gear choices ensure survivability.

Unless you play like a retard, you should survive. I mean, my first hardcore character was Occult + Shaman, which I consider significantly worse than skeletons around the earlier levels. I've yet to fully optimize a skelemancer, so I can't really talk for level 100 crucible stuff, but from what I've seen streamed, they're pretty brutal.

Illusionz
Illusionz

How much OA should you aim for in lategame?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@PurpleCharger
Trying to gear up and get recipes, considering gear like Savage is the best relic I can make so far.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Illusionz
2k is the lower end of what you want for ultimate

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Illusionz
Before the expansion I'd say 2400 - 2600 was the baseline for "good" OA, and less would be alright if you had enemy DA reduction with something like Flashbang. Now maybe 2.6k - 2.8k or so? Hard to say, but the more the better.

idontknow
idontknow

@cum2soon
I think Skellies are hard to do in crucible.
They get melted by aoe and then you're running around like a retard trying to re-summon them. But since you've lost the burst damage from them, they just keep being taken out faster than you can summon them.
In the campaign you can retreat and resummon whenever you want so it's not an issue.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@cum2soon
Right, that is the barebones, but where do you go from there? Do you invest in a vit pet damage build maximizing skeles and boosts from occult while using the other pets as 1 point wonders for their buffs and debuffs, or do you actually invest in them? Do you use the Soul Harvest buff or not waste the points? How about reap spirit, is that worth it?

How many points do you invest in dreeg? Max it out?

Stuff like that. You have a ton of build options, which is cool, but its been tough for me to nail down an ideal build.

Evilember
Evilember

@TreeEater
@PurpleCharger
What exactly do "lower end" and "good" mean? Is "lower end" at least close to 100% hit chance?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Evilember
By "good" I mean critting reliably enough against heroes/bosses.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@idontknow
@Stupidasole
I'm not entirely sure how to fully optimize pets, but stacking lots of offensive ability + flat damage + crit damage is probably one of the better ways to make them work.

As far as survivability goes, I BELIEVE there are a couple of new sources for pet resistances, which is a large part of what makes them so squishy - lacking resistances (and armor). I'm sorry that I can't provide any sources, I can just recall that I've seen skelemancers in a 2 man party clear Crucible 120+ pretty quickly.

@Evilember
@New_Cliche
2k by 75, around 2.4 by 100-ish.
About 3000 used to be the higher end by 85, so extrapolate a little.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@cum2soon
-80% speed
Jesus Christ, traversing the map sounds like prue misery.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@cum2soon
What the fuck is this build and sweet jesus, do you have a Grimtool of it?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Dreamworx
@Stupidasole
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/D2pJb4pZ

This is the build I'm currently thinking on. Again, I don't really know what to do to maximize it and really make good use of devotions especially.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Stupidasole
I've made something like this and cleared the game on Ultimate. Pretty much focused on vitality damage, since I got almost 100% conversion from Crypt, Master of Death and the Scythe.
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/d2jBynE2

Haven't really tried crucible beyond level 110 challenger because of stuff like @idontknow
and because my gear is still shit for the most part and can use a lot of improvement.
I've tried the bone harvest/soul harvest proc, but honestly it felt pretty awkward and fucking annoying to keep up because I already have like 6 other buffs I need to constantly keep up and you need to bone harvest every 3 seconds.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@New_Cliche
I'm guessingg I should look for OA anywhere, but the Cunning, because the gains from it look like trash.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Fried_Sushi
this is my current purifier
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/62avdYEV

With the Inquisitor passives you only need like 1 point in Fire Strike. Only put one point into explosive strike and max Static Strike for the knockdown %.

if you just want pure pistols you only need Fire Strike and Flash Bang as your active cast-ables.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@TreeEater
Pretty much, the only class that can get away with heavy cunning investment is Blademaster since you have a ton of DA from elsewhere and getting health isn't too hard thanks to soldier.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Soft_member
9 skellies

Explain. Skill modifier?

I got up to 22/16 and still only 8. But I haven't seen a single skill modifier for skellies apart from +x in skill.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Is it better to farm crucible or zones for legendary items?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Stark_Naked
On monsters. Let me tally:
Mythical Temporal Tempest: -30% Total Speed to Word of Pain
Mythical Gildan Arcanum Commendation: -10% Total Speed to Word of Pain
Mythical Pestilence of Dreeg: Plague of Fatigue: -33% Total Speed
Curse of Frailty: -50% Movement Speed
Seal of Corruption (socket): Aether Corruption: -25% Attack/Casting Speed
Solael's Witchblade (devotion): Eldritch Fire: -36% Movement Speed
___
Net
-98 (78+25) Attack and Cast speed
-159 (78+50+36) Movement Speed

@hairygrape
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/eVLJae6N
I call it "The Catalyst"
Debuff spammer, aura provider, multiplayer centric but solo viable. Can almost face tank that wendigo uber boss asshole thanks to layered defenses. Reaches just over 5k DA permanently. There are other options for some gear slots, just keep in mind: Defensive Ability is really, really good when stacked.

I've used the same concept to bring a mastery-less character to 81 in Hardcore, just by stacking lots and lots of DA.
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/b28qx0DV

@CouchChiller
Honestly, I think I'd drop Reap Spirit and instead max the dog's aura. Perhaps max the dog and use the set that increases the summon limit to 2? You might even consider dropping Occultist to 32 and taking out Manipulation.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@cum2soon
I believe it's 18 on the mod for 9 total Skellies.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

If I have a skill that has a "convert X physical damage to Y damage", would that impact skills that cause physical damage?

For example, iskandra's elemental exchange. Say I maxed that so 25% of my physical damage was converted; would this only impact auto attack and % of main hand damage skills, or would it also affect stunjacks?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@cum2soon
You need points in Undead Legion not skeletons. you get 1 more every 4 points.
There's also a mace that the warden drops that gives you +1 skeleton and scythe that gives you +2.
I'm running 11 skeletons now and I can get another one with one more point in Undead legion once I get some +1 to all skills gear.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Emberfire
If you can clear Challenger 150 then Crucible is more worthwhile, otherwise I think just farming areas in the main game is better.

Booteefool
Booteefool

There are people out there who would go for a purifier rather than a mage hunter to make a gunslinger build.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Evil_kitten
@CouchChiller
Ah, I see.

Fuck. I've just started elite and haven't seen any + skills for undead legion.

idontknow
idontknow

@Burnblaze
81 Mastery-less
Holy shit.
@Boy_vs_Girl
Auras/Buffs and stuff that isn't bound to focused damage skills apply to all your damage. That said, you can only convert a damage type once. So if you convert 100% of W damage to X damage, a source of X to Y will do nothing.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@CouchChiller
Is there any first character that's good at crucible?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Boy_vs_Girl
If it's on auras or items its for everything you do e.g. iskandra or Harbinger of souls. If its on a dmage spell modifier its only for that spell e.g. Cadence with discord or Drain Essence with Gravechill

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Burnblaze
>>193121863
Actually, I'm fucking retarded
30+10+33=73 total
+50+36 = 159 movement
+25 = 98 attack/cast

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Booteefool
not going for Vindicator

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Burnblaze
You remind me of the Nethack Autist. That's not a bad thing. It's just awe-inspiring to see shit like this.

askme
askme

@Raving_Cute
@Booteefool
going for gunslinger instead of patrician rifleman

Evilember
Evilember

@idontknow
I'm still working on the character without masteries. My goal is to reach level 100 and beat Ultimate Malmouth with the character, but you can imagine that clearing content is an incredible chore. My clear speed is entirely dependent on Magi (Devotion): Eruption, and I do kind of need to face tank to even keep enemies in the effect area, which you can imagine is rather difficult without masteries.

@MPmaster
Thanks.
I've done other autistic shield caster builds, like Arcanist/Demo focusing around Mortar Trap before Crate gutted multi-casting devotions on summons (and thus entirely ruined my build)
It used to be able to face tank and clear Gladiator Crucible in hardcore without breaking a sweat (although Shar'Zul was nearly a brick wall, taking like 10 minutes to kill, I've still gotten the highest score out of any character I made thus far)

idontknow
idontknow

@Firespawn
BWC commando or DEE witchblade are both good enough for Challenger without amazing gear. Basically use transmuted BWC or DEE + a bunch of offensive devotion procs for damage while being tanky because you're a soldier with a shield.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Evilember
Double neat.
Now one additional question, would you consider the Catalyst retard-proof?
Cause sometimes, I am most certainly retarded and 100 in HC is gonna be a mess for me.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Evilember
You're a special soul user.
In a good way

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Emberfire
T H I C C

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@idontknow
What do you think is more fun to play? I'll try them out. What does transmuted part mean?

massdebater
massdebater

@Fuzzy_Logic
I like BWC more but I guess it really comes down to if you like the color red or green more since the idea is the same. Transmuters are the nodes that branch off from some skills and usually modify them in a big way. In the case of BWC and DEE the transmuters put them on a cooldown and increase their damage a lot to compensate.

hairygrape
hairygrape

what devotion setup would be better between this 2?
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/q2mgrezZ
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/4ZDM9gaN

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@TreeEater
No, because you're relying on very specific items and skills.
Word of pain, entirely maxed out, will easily carry you through most of Normal or Veteran, because the skill is fucking amazing, but you're going to want items that boost either the base skill, or Death Sentence really really high to deal really brutal unfair damage.
At the same time, you need pretty specific DA boosting items. Citadel with a +4% DA completion bonus is a big one. That shit is expensive. The Untouchable with a good roll, ideally with +12 DA completion bonus from Etam Fald if at all possible. Empowered Defender of Devil's Crossing is a good alternative though, albeit weaker. Empowered Oldenar's Stabilizer is a good belt substitute.

You also want to take the right devotions. Early on, you might be better off taking turtle for survivability, and only switching that out really late once you already have shit tons of DA. Huntress debuffs OA, but should probably be taken late-ish since you have shit for bleed. Dying God is next to useless to the build, and only there for multiplayer.

Neither Occultist nor Inquisitor have a survival skill. I'm talking UTTERLY BROKEN shit like Demo's Blast Shield (or, by extension, flash bang. Dare I say 40% fumble?); the best you get is Inquisitor Seal, which leaves you rooted. So you can still technically die.

approaching character limit
I can rant on for so long.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@massdebater
Thanks I'll google and see if there is any more information or guide

Lunatick
Lunatick

mfw I found out the lore writer worked on Diablo 1 & 2 since when Blizzard North was called Condor.
At last I truly see

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@MPmaster
Not posting it
@Fuzzy_Logic
approaching character limit
I didn't even know there was a character limit, holy shit.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Is a gunslinging summoner possible? I assume inq/necro would be the best but I dont think theres enough points to make a hybrid build like this viable

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Lunatick
installing the game right now, not because of your post...but i loved diablo so much i even read the books, if you haven't read the sin war trilogy do yourself a favor

likme
likme

@Garbage Can Lid
Character limit as in symbol limit for the Veeky Forums text box (1500)

@Fuzzy_Logic
(cont.)
A pivotal item is Ravager's Eye (Augment) obtained by choosing to be friends with Barrowholm
Another one is Ugdenbog Leather (Component) which has the highest DA of any component (+30)
Kymon's Fury (Augment) can also be considered extremely important, because three of those give you -30% reflect damage taken, stacking with Owl and Solemn Watcher for a total of -65%, which is pretty important for broken arcane blender spam, BUT EXPECT REIGN OF ICE AND FIRE TO GET NERFED (and subsequently, this build to lose a lot of damage)
Runebound Topaz (Component) is equally important because it has % DA on it.

Basically, if I'm using it in the grimtools, chances are I have good reason for using it. So try using similar items, and, usually, the same augments and components.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Garbage Can Lid
you can't "carry" boulders user
yes you can...
Goddamn it

happy_sad
happy_sad

@TurtleCat
Ulzuin

cum2soon
cum2soon

@likme
text box
Oh, kek.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Do different sources of reduced DA stack? Or is it like reistances?
In my case specifically its Markovians advantage and Blindside

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Emberfire
Different sources of res reduction stack as well.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Emberfire
It'll work like resistances in that "-n DA" stacks, but "n reduced DA" doesn't

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@iluvmen
Different sources of -% resistance stack, the other two types not.
@TurtleCat
So markovians advantage and blindside dont work together right?

Firespawn
Firespawn

r8 my necro, pretty much only using Shaman for Mog Pact. Just finished Malmouth on veteran and my doot squad is starting to actually die to enemy damage. What are good constellations for pet resistances?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Stark_Naked
Right, they won't stack. I like Blindside more since it's easier to apply.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@CouchChiller
Yeah I dont left click as much anyway, just to get deadly momentum up and prepare some nice big decapitate crits for those sweet 100k+ bleed ticks

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Firespawn

The damage in malmouth for minion builds is way high cause of all the on death puddles of shit the enemies spawn combined with all the tight and difficult to manoeuvre so you should be fine outside of malm. But if you want some resist, make a purified salt so you can get the aether resist aura. Same for imbued silver and chaos resist, helps pets immensely. Soon as I got some other stuff to get >80 aether resist on my pets, they stopped dying. Staff of Rattosh at the top is excellent for resists, too.

happy_sad
happy_sad

very fast leveling

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Firespawn
Why max bone harvest?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Nude_Bikergirl
I've only ever read those two necro-themed books. I liked the possessed armor, desert city siege and the sorceress whorebitch getting blasted book more.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Do the Briarthorn or Blight Fiend work well as tanks with the increased threat nodes or am I better off not bothering with them as a VitTotem Ritualist?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Lunatick
Isn't he working on level design and doing some 3D models as well?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Emberfire
Wendigo Totem is your best friend in this situation.
Before Malmouth, the Briarthorn only really died in Gladiator Crucible, from my experience.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Leveling a blademaster right now, I see Cadence and modifiers buff %pierce damage but none of them actually grants flat pierce damage, how does it work?

Methshot
Methshot

Whats the best way to get new pet focused equipment when going through the game normally? I'm level 61 in malmouth and just realised I have gloves that require level 15 because I have not gotten anything better for gloves that have pet bonuses. All my equipment requires level 40-50 for the most part, but that and my pants are lagging behind badly. Just beat the boss to lower the bridge and it did like 50-75% of my health in damage per hit (though that's mostly due to my 0 aether resist most likely).

likme
likme

@GoogleCat
the necro is a main character in the sin war trilogy, not THE main character but the main character's brother

he goes to space to get necro powers from the astral dragon, pretty crazy stuff, installing this game now, only wish i'd have internet later to look things up but i guess i'll figure it out

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@AwesomeTucker
If you look at my skill bar I actually slotted up two Salts so my skellies could survive more than 5 seconds against the Shaper of Flesh. good to know though, I'll have to keep experimenting with devotions, still putting points in Rattosh himself, it might be tough to unlock Staff without 10+ more devotion points.
@Burnblaze
I've been using a lvl 25 Deadbeater for the entire veteran campaign and my bonerharvest does 10K+ damage, useful for wiping away trash mobs and allowing my doots to focus on bosses. My basic attacks are garbage and Savagery from Shaman doesn't have much synergy as my only auto-attack option.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@StrangeWizard
I have a devotion plan that fits staff and Rattosh in if you want to take a look. I'm not saying its top shelf or anything but its very doable

http://www.grimtools.com/calc/D2pJb4pZ

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Burnblaze
How does the math work for the dog's aura? Most of my damage I feel would be coming from vit damage with this setup and the dog doesn't boost those. Would it still be a sizeable boost in that case? I was thinking maybe the familiar's abilities for the resist boost would be good, but I don't see a lot of value in the dog aura atm. I could see it nice if I got the set that boosts the number of dogs to two and got the dog maxed out though, but I don't have the gear on hand atm.

likme
likme

How do I know when I'm done with the expansion stuff?
Was the flesh dude boss the final boss?
They really make a bad job of telling you whats going on..

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

So, there's supposed to be +1 skill point in Malmouth, how do I get there? (I haven't entirely finished Ultimate Malmouth yet, so I didn't really scour every area)

@Nude_Bikergirl
A lot of pet items grant +% pet total damage, so even if you're "only" sitting at +600%, the flat damage from the dog will be relevant, especially given that you have like 10 summons to spread it across.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

finally get to the area where this darius guy is
he's just standing there, with a ! on his head
approach him
proceed to ask him details about my quests, his job decisions, his regrets with his previous home, a bit of stuff regarding the future, etc
ask him if we could resolve this peacefully
"you serious, bruh?"
all before we proceed to kill each other
This dude seems nice.

girlDog
girlDog

@Poker_Star
I'm not worried about them dying I'm worried about them holding threat while I shit vitality damage all over the place.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@RavySnake
thanks necrobro, looks solid. How does Blight Fiend hold up with only 1 point in ultimate? Felt like mine wasn't contributing much to fights except for the aoe confuse/poison blast.

5mileys
5mileys

is there any way to make monsters more noticeable? It's annoying when I can't even target the boss because of the mess of pets running everywhere

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Dreamworx
And its more reliable than the familiars flat elemental damage buff?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Soft_member
Its literally just there for the debuffs and whatnot. I am curious myself how many points you need to dump to get a genuine "Tank" going though.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Bidwell
I don't know actually, I'd encourage you to try both. But you're much more likely to max the dog over the crow, I'd say.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

How are the aetherials in the western half of the map at all?

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Sir_Gallonhead
Ships, walking along the coastline, manifesting in the general area. They had been preparing the grim dawn for years and decades.

Skullbone
Skullbone

What are you guys doing right now?

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Methshot
Don't bother with the gloves, only a few rare and epic drops have pet stats.
You can get some real good pet pants from the third boss of the hidden paths if you know where that is.
http://www.grimtools.com/db/search?query=Bysmiel-Sect%20Legguards&in_description=1&exact_match=0

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Skullbone
farming serrated spikes and gold to finish my olerons wrath relic.
You need what feels like 30 of the damn things if you are building it from scratch

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Skullbone
Trying to find Rictors stash, where the fuck is that thing?!
Also, how do I find out what shrines I've missed on my current difficultgy?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Sir_Gallonhead
It sounds like the Aetherials nuked Malmouth and Port Valbury at the beginning of the Grim Dawn and have been invading south since

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@VisualMaster
Who's rictor?
Also http://grimdawn.wikia.com/wiki/Shrines

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Skullbone
Going through the Armory on my vit caster Cabalist.

WebTool
WebTool

@VisualMaster
Shrines
I use http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26777

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Skullbone
Doing act 3 while not farming serrated spikes.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Dreamworx
It's the honored quest for Coven, has to do with the locked door in the Fleshworks. You'll find an old friend inside.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Skullbone
Trying out builds at level 50. I've made about 30 characters and I'm tired of playing through the game on normal.

Currently playing AIDS build. Next up is shield build.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

How many points is ideal to put in Blood of Dreeg?

girlDog
girlDog

@Supergrass
@Evil_kitten
Depends on your level and what you want.
If you use it for defense enough till you don't die. Offense then max it, the offensive ability is good.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Skullbone
just finished eating dinner.
Wither going to level my Boner Party or my giant laser

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Emberfire
Thank Menhir it's done

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@VisualMaster
http://grimdawnshrinemap.com/

MPmaster
MPmaster

its a 'boss sprints in instantly from off screen and 2 shots me' episode

Soft_member
Soft_member

@MPmaster

psshh...

Booteefool
Booteefool

Sooo, I need some Haunted Steel to craft my Relic.. Where the fuck do I get haunted steel again?!

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Booteefool
You get the recipe from order of deaths vigil at I think revered

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Lord_Tryzalot
I checked that already, they do not sell it.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Firespawn
they sell it at the respected level, I just checked

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Methnerd
Ewww respected.. why does that recipe not get shared to all my other characters??

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Which should be maxed first: Wasting or Black Death?

girlDog
girlDog

@TurtleCat
why does that recipe not get shared to all my other characters??
It is shared, expect between hard core and soft core

cum2soon
cum2soon

@PackManBrainlure
Wasting. Reduced OA.
I find Black Death nigh irrelevant.

askme
askme

@eGremlin
Those pants seem to have only +OA% on them. I've never really dug in and learned in depth mechanics, how important is OA on pets and how much makes a noticeable effect? I've mostly just been focusing on pure pet damage %.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Quick, how do I increase my reputation with the rovers?

Evilember
Evilember

@VisualMaster

Steps of Torment / Arkovian Undercity runs.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@PackManBrainlure
Black Death gives more damage,

idontknow
idontknow

@VisualMaster
make sure to buy Writs/Mandates

Evilember
Evilember

Can you get relic blueprints anywhere? I found a good relic but I need to use a lower level one called inferno to also create it. I just wonder if I need to go to normal difficulty or something

viagrandad
viagrandad

@PackManBrainlure

If you're still early on, Black Death since undead take fuck all damage from Pox without BD.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@VisualMaster
At max rep you can buy an item so you never have to farm rep again for that faction. It's the fucking worst part of this game.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@cum2soon
@BinaryMan
@viagrandad
Thanks bros.

One last question: Is Siphon Souls worth anything?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Nightblade is just too good. Shadowstrike, self-heal, ranged dmg/self heal.
bosses get melted or worn down.

only thing is that it has to be supported with the proper devotions and is kinda slow in the beginning.
Solael's Witchfire is literally the only skill I have points in on my other mastery.

Methnerd
Methnerd

@VisualMaster
kill ghosts and skeletons

DeathDog
DeathDog

Jesus christ that upgrade

Illusionz
Illusionz

@eGremlin
As a heal it's good but the damage is bad compared to Bone Harvest. There are a lot of items later that can increase it's level and let it reduce vitality resistance making it usable as your main damage if you wanted.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@DeathDog
1000 health
Ehh... what?!

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Wait a second, is upheaval worthless if almost my whole attack pool is weapon pool skills?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@TurtleCat
Why would free damage be worthless...

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

What unlocks this?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@TalkBomber
reistance rep quest

Spamalot
Spamalot

@TalkBomber
later quest
68
veteran
not enough rep to unlock this quest

farquit
farquit

The fuck happened? It was fine a few hours ago. All the gear/stats are still in effect too.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I'm so tired my brain is gonna fall out of my skull.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Lunatick
Because I'm fairly certain weapon pool attacks override Upheaval and it doesn't proc.

So it's not free damage, it's no damage.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@RavySnake
you're

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I got 33 shrines in veteran, worked through the checklist and got everything..
Are the last shrines locked behind resistance rep walls?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@viagrandad
For that remark he's gonna reap you're waifu as well
@haveahappyday
you cant max out devotions in one plathrough, you gotta get some from elite and maybe ultimate as well

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@farquit
That happened to me when I adjusted the Gamma. No idea why that would happen but I had to restart to get rid of it.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Lord_Tryzalot
Im aware of that, but its supposed to be 35 shrines in veteran.
So I'm missing 2.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@RumChicken
Should be 33. 28 in the base game and 5 in AoM.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@RumChicken
Just load GDStash and it'll tell you the shrines you don't have on that character.

farquit
farquit

@Booteefool
Got a link to a mage hunter build? Been wanting to try a elemental gunslinger

Supergrass
Supergrass

Where do I get Mark of Dreeg?????????????

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Skullbone
It is? Well nvm then lol

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Ignoramus
Yeah, restarting did it. I think it was swapping to windowed borderless for me.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

You think Mogdrogen's Ardor or Dirge of Arkovia is better for cabalist summoner?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Nude_Bikergirl

DON'T O'EN THE CHEST!

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

god damn it. i want a high level AAR build but it's so fucking boring to level with it.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

I thought killing the vents were meant to unlock that?

massdebater
massdebater

@Garbage Can Lid
It should be unlocked. Try restarting the session maybe, not sure as I haven't run into that problem.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@New_Cliche
Oh shit I completely missed that. I actually had to double check. I almost expected it to be marked on the map (but it wasn't)

Thanks for the confirmation, I just finished it.

WebTool
WebTool

I'm running a character through the early game at mach 2, what side quests shouldn't I miss? If it's just a 1 off I dont care, but the ones that unlock vendors or stuff down the line I'll do.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Garbage Can Lid
I haven't gotten to the new shit yet, but that reminds me of Path of Exile A4/9.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@WebTool
Do all quests, that don't require a massive detour (except for the act 2 quests with mogara through to the fortress) turn none in until you have important devotions, then enjoy immense burst exp.

You don't want to miss the ghost east of Broken Hills WP (+1 attribute), you want to do the hidden path (+1 skill)

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Been playing the game for a week or so, any useful gameplay mods or tweaks on graphics settings/.inis you guys do?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Need_TLC
Tell me about it, I'm leveling as cadence soldier. Is there any faster way?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Need_TLC
@BunnyJinx
Level with blade arc or more fun abilities, then respec later.

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Need_TLC
Don't use AAR to level with. Use Flash Freeze instead, and only AAR on key targets that can't get frozen. It's so much faster.

@BunnyJinx
Don't level with Soldier skills. What's your second mastery?
Demo has Blackwater Cocktail, max + transmuter melts everything.
Occultist has Dreeg's Evil Eye. Max-Max + transmuter, again, melts everything.
Shaman has Devouring Swarm.
Inquisitor has Word of Pain which is probably the strongest leveling skill I've ever seen.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@TalkBomber
I just picked forcewave, is it worth it?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

How many skill points total should i have at level 53 first difficulty?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Raving_Cute
158 or so? Don't quote me on that, I forget where the reduction is.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Carnalpleasure
As long as you have the transmuter and use a 2h weapon Forcewave is a good leveling skill yeah.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Raving_Cute
I fucked up respecing and put too many points into arcanist and just ended up with not enough skill points for skills i actually use. So i had to use a char editor, and to not cheat i just want to know exactly how much i should have so i can start over with the correct amount of points

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Raving_Cute
(50-1)*3 -> 147
+
(Level-50)*2 = (53-50)*2 = 6 -> 153
+
1 from Devil's Crossing, 1 from Hidden Path

So, 155? I think?

FastChef
FastChef

@Flameblow
From what ive read its level 1-50 = 147 points then 2 points per level from 50, so 3 levels x 2 skill points = 153

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Emberfire
I want this to be in the OP of the next thread.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@cum2soon
@cum2soon
My second Mastery is arcanist

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@happy_sad
You can probably comfortably max Flash Freeze + mod and just clear trash that way, then whack away with cadence at tougher enemies.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@FastChef
You forgot the 2 from Quests, which raises that to 155.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@VisualMaster
Shit, gonna drop my shield if that's the case

Firespawn
Firespawn

@happy_sad
@Garbage Can Lid
I should actually think before I post. My bad. I forgot to add;
Make sure you take Fiend (devotion): Flame Torrent, bind it to Cadence or whatever. It does shit loads of damage for clearing purposes.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Fashion as a lvl 41 reaper. Don't have a nice scythe yet.

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Soft_member
That's pretty cool.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Emberfire
shoulder mounted torches to free hands for weapon handling in dark dungeons
Noice

Lunatick
Lunatick

Post songs for farming, I'll start:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Firespawn
Is tsunami any good? I'm trying to go cold

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Emberfire
Step aside fuccboi

@Soft_member
No. Try Fiend. Real talk. I don't care what your damage type is, it kicks ass.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Emberfire
The Virgin Purifier
@eGremlin
The Chad Vindicator

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@Need_TLC
You don't level with AAR. You level with missiles or callidors or soul steal or item/devotion skills or whatever.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@cum2soon
Is blackwater cocktail really that good? Would you take it instead of any of the other demo skills, or are there any that you would use in a combo?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@New_Cliche
At least the class title is accurate

@Nojokur
Absolutely. It massively debuffs OA, it deals immense amounts of damage, and with transmuter, does so in a fuckhuge aoe. For such miniscule investment, the damage output is incredible. AND you can bind Fiend devotion to it. Which conveniently shares your damage type.

Keep in mind, this is for leveling. I haven't played BWC in such a long time, I don't know how well it holds up in later levels. I just know that it kicks ass for leveling purposes.
I believe there is no better option, but you should probably combine it with 1 (or max) - Max - 0 - 0 Firestrike, just for cheap additional aoe.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@SniperWish
Imo the best skill in the Demo's arsenal is Flashbang because it's so fantastic for offense and defense, but BWC is great. Doing a throwables Demo build is so fun because most of the Demo skills are just so good.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@viagrandad
I agree. I'd consider Demo to be a borderline broken mastery, entirely on the basis of Flashbang being insanely versatile, and Blast Shield one of the best passives in the game.

Doesn't mean I'd put a single point in it for the purpose of leveling though. Maybe past like 30.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@SniperWish
@viagrandad
@Emberburn
Using a dual-wield Purifier right now, so just trying to lock down what skills are great and which ones can be left behind. Definitely agree that flashbangs are amazing, as getting enemies to turn around and wander off is a godsend in some places.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@SniperGod
if you're going Fire Strike Skills that can be left behind are likely Canister Bomb, Grenado, Stun Jacks, Mortar Trap, and Ulzuin's chosen. BWC is a maybe.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Soft_member
What about thermite mines?

FastChef
FastChef

@Bidwell
Thermite mines are generally a good skill to have, on my purifier I have them at 8/16 - 8/12 with gear bonuses. The -% res on them are too good to pass up. Especially if you take Inquisitor's Seal where you can pop the mines in front of your seal and go ham

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@FastChef
Thanks! Lvl 50 right now and it always seems like there's never enough points to go around, so knowing what to get helps.

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Supergrass
no one answer me :(

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Supergrass
Randomly dropped, you can't craft it. Try farming the first map of the hidden path near devil's crossing.

WebTool
WebTool

@Snarelure
Try farming the first map of the hidden path near devil's crossing
don't know where that is

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@WebTool
I don't know how to use google

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

look past filter i have issues

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Carnalpleasure
I think your resolution is your biggest issue.
Also, thanks doc.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Carnalpleasure
purple and green vomit in 4x3 res
what the fuck

Skullbone
Skullbone

Is it possible to get both the Spear of the Heavens and the Light of Empyrion to purge the unclean?

Methshot
Methshot

@Skullbone
Absolutely
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/eVLJa9GN

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Skullbone
not showing the glorious light of the Emperor, long may he guide humanity against Chaos

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Methshot
Thanks for the build.

Do I go fire, lightning or both?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

tfw finally find relic blueprint that helps my pets
needs lower level relic I donut have

JunkTop
JunkTop

http://www.grimtools.com/calc/aZqBkjdN

trying to make a build focusing on hellhound, but have no clue what I'm doing.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@TalkBomber
Man mode. Grab a Beronath, Reforged and go physical :^)

massdebater
massdebater

@BinaryMan
So many things rely on lower Relics that have no guaranteed spawns. It's very strange.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Chthonian summoner fucking when?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I'm new to this game. Why are there reputations for, what I believe are, enemy factions?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Raving_Cute
Hover on the breaks on the bars. There are "rewards" for killing too many enemies. More mobs and at the highest level, a nemesis enemy.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@MPmaster
literally occultist, plus the monster unique from the boss in the locked sanctuary (Salazar?) lets you summon Cthonian Harbingers, the ones that detonate when you kill them.
@Raving_Cute
enemy faction reputation increases by killing their enemy types and heroes. At higher levels more heroes spawn which can let you get their unique loot. At max level Nemesis superbosses for those factions spawn.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Speaking of reputations.
Do I really have to grind them all out again when I make a new character?
Sounds aids

WebTool
WebTool

@BlogWobbles
For friendly factions when you reach the highest level you can buy mandates which can be transferred to other characters and double their reputation gains

For enemy factions upon killing a nemesis they may drop a warrant which does the same thing.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@BlogWobbles
monster reps, yes
allied factions sell a stash transferable item that increases faction rep gain once you reach max reputation.

TechHater
TechHater

@TurtleCat
I have that sword, but the thing is so fucking slow that its useless outside of being summoned directly next to a boss that isn't moving so it can just wail on them. They seriously need to buff its movement speed.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Nojokur
Can't I just buy the augments I want and stash transfer to my character also? or is that not possible

cum2soon
cum2soon

@Flameblow
Faction gears are soulbound, can't be transfered

Bidwell
Bidwell

@BlogWobbles
The great thing about this being a mostly single player, offline game is that you can cheat if you want to. If grinding sounds like ass, just use GDStash to edit your reputations.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@cum2soon
Are any of those actually worth using at end game though?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@kizzmybutt
They are great items when your characters don't have best in slots yet since they're always purchasable. Augments are staple for late game survivability.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Skullbone
Is there a good way to actually farm faction rep or is it just spamming bounties, reloading, spamming more bounties and so on until you cap out?

Firespawn
Firespawn

@Flameblow
@Flameblow
On your first character you'll likely have to do that. You can also kill their hated enemies. Focus on bosses. Orange named bosses give 35 base rep (52 with the rep paper purchasable at Honored, 70 with mandate). Purple named bosses give 70 base rep.

For example, you can grind devil's crossing and cronley's efficiently by learning all the locations of the bosses on the Four Hills. It's quite fast to grind these.

For Black Legion, Fleshworks is a great place to grind. 4 guaranteed purple named bosses.

Once you have the faction mandates you can just play the game and do all the major quests. You'll end up maxing every faction out by the end of elite.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Firespawn
Seems my biggest hurdle will be playing one character enough to get the rep thingies. I keep swapping between a couple characters and its going to fuck me in the long run. Just can't decide between a pet necro/occultist, AAR spellbiner, or a primal strike warder.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Sharpcharm
Necro/Occ. Will have the easiest time.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Illusionz
What items let it reduce resists?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

what trainer works with AoM?
i want to see what the devotion procs do

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@lostmypassword
I am playing this now and am starting to worry I am building it shitty or since it isn't soldier I heard I can't do crucible

likme
likme

@AwesomeTucker
You can probably do Challenger crucible just fine (which is where people farm their items)

Gladiator crucible is for hyper tanks since everything hurts so much. It's also a bad place to farm items since mobs take a lot of time to kill

Techpill
Techpill

@likme
Oh okay. Thanks for the info. I was under the impression that unless you are doing the highest crucible you aren't being efficient or suck

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

tfw died 4 times to warden krieg on ultimate
NO ONE TOLD ME IT ACTUALLY GETS HARD NOW

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Crazy_Nice
kymon's crusader mastery when?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@PurpleCharger
max your resist bro
ultimate is pretty damn hard when you reach expansion

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@PurpleCharger
wait until you walk into a cthonic rift and are greeted by discount c'thulu who shotguns you for 15k health through max resists

then you'll know about REAL fun

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

there are people in this thread right now that play auto attack builds

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@BinaryMan
there are people in this thread right now that play what they enjoy

Not fair!

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

not playing a pet build standing around doing nothing

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Harmless_Venom
Enjoying AA builds

paint drying museum is that way fella

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

i bet aether feels like icyhot on your innards

RavySnake
RavySnake

@BinaryMan
I just like watching everything die to a hail of bullets and all other sorts of shit.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Garbage Can Lid
what is up with that nigger

cant mitigate that damage at all

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Rate my gunslinger cowboy

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Spazyfool
basically fire/bleed, but theres no items for it lol
also no decent cold/vit builds

likme
likme

that Gloomwald music

Spooky.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@BinaryMan
are there even any good pure aa builds? everything is dot this dot that

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@JunkTop
Cadence builds have been pretty strong.

I'm enjoying the fuck out of my Dual Pistols Mage Hunter. Sorta shitty until you get Troll Rage at 25, but its super fun to just hold LMB and shit rainbow death all over.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Nexen Shade fight

wtf was that

RavySnake
RavySnake

Getting bored of my necro.
Arrived in the expansion and all the poison is just destroying me. Recommend me another build I can respec into that's fun. I wanna keep going but I feel really bored of it atm..

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Just killed Kupacabra in Elite with my lvl 77. That was intense...

Emberburn
Emberburn

@RavySnake
All those points in Ravenous Earth
You really only need 1 so you can cast it. You could use those 15 points towards Spectral Binding to boost your HP, Call of the Grave for more damage, Mark of Torment so your minions have some additional sustain, and ESPECIALLY those points could be used for Blood of Dreeg over in Occultist.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@RavySnake
Why do I see so many pet necros maxing bone harvest?

Its not like it scales off pet damage and it feels dangerous to use. 1 point for the eventual pet damage buff later on, sure, I get that, but why max it?

happy_sad
happy_sad

Any tips for killing rashulga? Bitch heals more than I do damage

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@BinaryMan
Using a 2hander with 150% cold damage

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@RavySnake
@Emberburn
@BinaryMan
Both of these.
You're wasting easily 31 points on Bone Harvest, its 1-point augment, and Ravenous Earth.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I'm getting real sick of this ground poison killing all my skeletons

Supergrass
Supergrass

@CodeBuns
ACCEPT DREEG UNTO YOURSELF AND BE B L E S S E D WITH +100% SKELE POISON RES

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

main is warder
got stonefist before expansion hits
already in malmouth
still using same gear before expansion hits
even in crucible, there's no good shit to use

Is stonefist the only thing for me?

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Emberburn
@Crazy_Nice
so you're recommending me to unlevel my attack skills to get more passive points for skeletons which will make the playstyle even more boring? Not sure about that..

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Supergrass
I did it. I removed my blight friend points. Should I max the dreeg or aspect part

farquit
farquit

@BlogWobbles
Aspect. It will give your skeletons poison res.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Soft_member
You have three options. 1 is remove the attack skills and go pets. 2 is remove the pet skills and go attack. 3 is wait until endgame when you get the uniques that allow you to go hybrid.

farquit
farquit

@farquit
Yeah. I just didn't know if it would outweigh the healing from dreeg

girlDog
girlDog

@Supergrass
dreeg

gay shit

soul ale gives me >>>>FREE<<<<< 12% damage absorb.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Evil_kitten
Stone fist was a viable item all the way to level 85 even before the expansion arrives.

There aren't many items for physical warders. I suppose Leviathan and Gutsmasher are viable too.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I'm making a FUCKING INVINCIBLE tactician: http://www.grimtools.com/calc/8NKQjznV

Gears look weird mostly because I'm only building around what I have

I'm one point away from getting the Ishtak proc. I don't think I can get it without sacrificing something like Targo's Shield Wall.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Soft_member
Just drop the pets and go full caster then.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@GoogleCat
Seems like I can get all of them now: http://www.grimtools.com/calc/a2ELk1bN

Missing out the remaining Targo nodes kind of sucks

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Stupidasole
srsly? my experience with cadence is that it sucks hard. you need like 50 pts just to max a proc every third hit

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Anyone have a guile recipe they want to trade away?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Crazy_Nice
dread is pretty good for that vitality dot and +range, but yeah 1 pt for the base

SniperGod
SniperGod

@TurtleCat
Cadence's strength is late game because it has 2 scaling stats (weapon damage and flat damage) which both scales extremely well. It's also the most flexible attack skill since physical damage is easily convertible.

Early game it sucks big time since AOE dominates hard. But when you hit Ultimate, you'd likely have a bunch of AOEs from your constellations that most AOE abilities become kind of redundant. Cadence give you what you want the most: huge single target damage for boss fights.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Is it just me or do those Skeleton Soldiers around SoT ignore a huge junk of your damage as melee? Is it because of the shield?

I noticed something similiar with the arcanists that have maivens sphere, but those can stand there taking 10 hits and dont take damage and suddenly -boom- explode.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

So why didnt anyone tell me that bone harvest hits really fucking hard?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@TurtleCat
just need to max cadence and deadly momentum solder mastery class use cadence and warborn set is the meta

Techpill
Techpill

reach wave 90+ of crucible
shit goes full musou vomit of enemies
What the fuck.
Granted I kill them fast as fuck, but the rate of vomit just damn nigga, too many shit happening on the screen.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Techpill
Oh wait until you hit levels 140+

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Skullbone
Shield and armor. Weak hits (like the first 2 hits of Cadence) likely does zero damage against them.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@New_Cliche
what is your secondary

ive been trying to make a build around it, i think nightblade or shaman makes sense

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Spazyfool
Not the guy but Nightblade with vitality doesn't make sense. It's a cold class. If you want vitality damage you'd want Shaman for -vit res from Devouring swarm and Wendigo Totem. It also has some 2 handed melee skills.

Bone Harvest is kind of a weird skill. The transmuter gives it 100% cold conversion, which is the bulk of the damage, which you might want to take for along with Nightblade. On the other hand, it kinds of fucks with vitality damage build until late into the game where you can find a pure vitality scythe like Death's Reach.

JunkTop
JunkTop

You would think thats something for a nightblade build, rather than arcanist with those flags on the back.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Spazyfool
Occultist
Not still sure about my build since havent hit the hard content in ultimate yet but so far it seems kinda strong. And yes shaman could also be good for this.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Anyone fucking annoyed that Occultist summons aren't skill shots but Necromancer summons are?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Snarelure
What's worse, Skeletons are summoned at cursor position but Blight Fiend is summoned next to the Necromancer. Fucks up my OCD real bad

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@DeathDog
necro cold damage just makes no sense, nothing to support it and other classes dont really have it either. and if i was gonna take arcanist i'd rather just build around aether

happy_sad
happy_sad

@DeathDog
But the cold transmuter doesnt really do anything for me tho since my weapon does pure vit dmg

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

any tips to my current skill tree?
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/eVLJXmMN
Not sure where my points are best used right now while I continue to level

eGremlin
eGremlin

@haveahappyday
that's pretty much the build i'm going for right now
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/nZoX8B9N

Booteefool
Booteefool

get my 1st skeleton key
its a long ass fuck dungeon
get to what I think is the final boss
fatty minions died but I resummoned them again
for some odd reason, the boss wont get off my dick now
literally died while the boss had <100 hp
I am hella triggered. How do I make a key again?

askme
askme

@Booteefool
You have to craft it from purple components. Not exactly rare but not that common either

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Booteefool
You got the crafting recipe as part of getting the key.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@happy_sad
That's literally what I said in the last sentence

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@New_Cliche
ONLY 203k

necrofags eternally btfo by BASED bloody pox

takes2long
takes2long

@eGremlin
How you liking it so far? I've been crusing besides getting assraped a few times in elite now. I had to give up at the hidden path boss and I'll come back to it later

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I bind health potion to right click because I'm fucking pussy

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Stunned
Stunned
Stunned
Stunned
Stunned
Dead

BUY ASHES OF MALMOUTH NOW ONLY 99.99 + SANITY TIP

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

tfw died in Larria's Den while taking to NPC
What's your most retarded death yet?

Flameblow
Flameblow

@kizzmybutt
N O
S I N G L E
T A R G E T

Emberburn
Emberburn

@takes2long
i just need to up my resists other than that it's been a breeze.
My minions pretty much never die. I use bloody pox to proc shepards call. And i have he BeastCaller's helm and talisman waiting for me in my stash

idontknow
idontknow

@Boy_vs_Girl
i instantly died to Gollum when dropped 2 poison blasts on me while i had -15% poison resist

cum2soon
cum2soon

for a cold/lightning mage hunter is it better to take aura of censure or star pact?

farquit
farquit

@Boy_vs_Girl
Greedily picking up aether clusters on aether floor
Letting a demon summon a volcano on me

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@kizzmybutt
Whats the way to messure that shit?
I wanna give it a try..

Supergrass
Supergrass

so is aether new meta now?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@TalkBomber
What do you mean? It's in the character screen, third tab, scroll down all the way to the bottom

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@TalkBomber
Bottom of tab III

This is a ranged chaos cadence pre expansion. Hopefully hit 300k with some new gear.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

This is going to look very lazy and idiotic but as a new player would it take me long to learn shit?
I just want to play hardcore and have some fun.

StonedTime
StonedTime

@LuckyDusty
It will take longer if you start on hardcore. Play through once softcore and learn from your deaths.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@LuckyDusty
Lots of things can instagib you if you're not paying attention as a new player

SniperWish
SniperWish

So how does inquisitor's seal work in terms of protection?
I know it says it has absorption but the number is very small, so I don't know what's the point.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@kizzmybutt
How the fuck do you make a build based around bloody pox? I love the idea of the self-spreading dot, but never had the patience to make it work for me.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Any good way for a lightning based Vindicator to reduce enemy resistances?

Inmate
Inmate

@Carnalpleasure
Raging Tempest skill
Rhowan's Crown and Widow constellations

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Inmate
@Carnalpleasure
Also Ultos Constellation will reduce, and it does a fuckton of Lightning damage too.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Stupidasole
Oh shit I forgot about that

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@SniperWish
The absorb happends after the damage got reduced by your resistances.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Stupidasole
tfw I have no clue how to properly reach it without wasting points

I already have tempest, kraken, viper, owl, turtle and ghoul.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@SniperGod
@ZeroReborn
This is my build that right now (lvl 95) does 65k damage per second, fire/chaos/a bit of vit and destroys everything except fire enemies. Have yet to find all mythicals though.

Blood of Dreeg is really good, especially with the second skill, since you dont need to worry about poison and hit regen is nice. It pairs well with Giant's Blood (Behemoth devotion, bottom left) and makes you take pretty much no damage if you also have lifesteal. I'd recommend Ghoul and Revenant as well, perhaps Toad, and using Remains component in gloves

Curse of Frailty is absolutely essential, I didn't have it for the longest time and died too much. Slow + elemental -resist, plus you get another slow and -resist from Solael's Witchblade constellation. They slow mobs like yetis and golems (flesh hulks etc) to a crawl unless they charge. Witchblade also has energy burn which can be used to drain mana and stop them from charging.

Grenado is optional but I've found it to be really good for instantly clearing small crowds of trash (like when skeletons block your path in SoT) and guaranteed knockdown.

All the skills like Temper and Grenado modifiers benefit from item bonuses and I didn't actually level them

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Inmate
@Stupidasole

I have Ultos already, but getting Raging Tempest could get kinda ugly..
also where is this Widow constellation?

Supergrass
Supergrass

tfw I can't even outdps bosses anymore
holy fug i dont know what to do

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Booteefool
the executioner is fucking annoying, i think he gets some kind of speed buff/behavior changes making him more aggressive below 50% hp
i finished 150 waves of crucible on gladiator as tank witchblade but i still have to fucking kite him

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Lord_Tryzalot
this shit is infuriating really, it punishes you for being anything other than a tank
the only solution i've found is 50%+ stun res from Leathery hide/Empty Throne/Dire Bear and lots of passive/constellation HP regen

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Crazy_Nice
So what can I get away with when using it?
DoTs? I don't think it can tank huge hits since the absorption is so small.

Firespawn
Firespawn

My poor, poor skeletons. Every single fucking mob in Act 5 has AOE

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@Firespawn
That's when you're supposed to care about their defenses, and yours.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Supergrass
Upload your build on grimtools and post it here
Or just find some way to get more resist/health/DA

Emberburn
Emberburn

is 2h Warder any decent?

Also considering some AA builds but don't know any.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@iluvmen
You take Bloody Pox and then grab Devouring Swarm. It's that easy. At level 26 Devouring Swarm reduces their vitality resistance by fucking 70%. You can get a legendary helmet that makes pox reduce it by another 10%. Then your curse reduces it by another 35%. It's so utterly busted you can hit those C'thon mobs that have like 100% vit resist with everything and it'll still get knocked below 0 and they just die. The hardest enemies to deal with in the game for the build and they still eat shit.

The only problem it runs into is single target which is easily rectified by vitality damage storm totems which are disgustingly fucking damaging once you stack them up on a single target.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@BinaryMan
@MPmaster
Steam Controller owner here.
I'm not usually one to shill hardware, but it's actually very nice for playing Grim Dawn with, specifically for leftclick holding melee builds. I always found them extremely bland to play because there's basically nothing TO a well constructed leftclick melee shitter, and while playing that with a controller doesn't really change that, it makes playing it infinitely more comfortable.

Not accounting for the loot and inventory system, combat as a generic melee character feels like it was almost meant to be played with a controller, because it's so intuitive. So, at times, I'd even just sit at the desk and melee with a controller while sorting loot with my mouse. I don't think I'd touch generic melee builds if I can't play them with a controller.

This was Demo/Soldier btw.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Emberburn
Pure physical 2 hand warder is decent. Alright in both damage output and survivability (huge leech from Wendigo totem).

For AA pick the primary attack build then pick the optimal secondary support class

Shaman/Savagery: 2 hand. For bleed centric build, support with Occultist (curse of frailty). For lightning centric, Demo.

Shaman/Primal Strike: 2 hand gun or melee, support with demo

Demo/Fire Strike: dual wield gun/sword, 2 hand, sword and board all viable. Support with Shaman (2 hand), Inquisitor (2 hand gun, dual wield gun), Occultist (focused on Brimstone/Solael's for chaos damage), Soldier (sword and board tank)

Soldier/Cadence: a lot of possible combinations since it can be used with any weapon and converted to any damage type, although the most popular choice is dual wield pierce (support with Nightblade)

Soft_member
Soft_member

@BinaryMan
not being literally invincible
lmao at ur're life

Alkamos does get a large damage boost at like 25% life I think.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Dreamworx
How high can you get Storm Totems for a vitality build? I've always wanted to try this but hesitated since all Storm Totem gears are lightning based

Emberfire
Emberfire

@LuckyDusty
This is with dying god, you could probably get it higher since my build scarified some vit for bleed damage in a couple slots.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Soft_member
are those 30k crits from spear of heaven?
Because Im not sure if I should get ultos or spear, but I already have Tempest for AA, so I would kinda need another attack button for Ultos, granted, I could switch Ultos to AA and use Tempest on Wind Devil or Sacred Strike, but man, that spear constellation does look great.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Soft_member
Lets see you dod the same with Fabius/Rasalga and Ravager

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@LuckyDusty
Not Storm Totem shill guy here
I have an old vitality build that worked well in Crucible Gladiator on hardcore
The main focus is resist reduction and massive OA debuffs while still dealing stupid amounts of damage. The damage output looks much lower than it actually is, it's pretty impressive. I'm literally running a Lichguard because nothing is stopping me from doing so.

I've tried Storm Totem before Malmouth and it was simply not worth it, no matter how much I wanted to like it. It might be worth using, now that it has a couple of +1 summon items, but I'm still skeptical.

Link to build: http://www.grimtools.com/calc/O2GWYnk2

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

tfw I change all my devotions and some skillpoints and manage to take down boss even with lvl 1 devotions :D

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Emberfire
does the vit decay from multiple storm totems stack?
@Nude_Bikergirl
maxed wendigo totem
didn't max blood pact
who tho, i usually just put 1 point into wendy and then the rest into pact

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Nude_Bikergirl
This is from a long time ago right? They gave Bloody Pox vitality damage now, it should be maxed

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Nude_Bikergirl
Taking Sigil in the year of our lord 2017
NOT MAXING BLOOD PACT IN THE YEAR OF OUR LORD 2017
S E C O N D
R I T E S
N O T
M A X E D
ON A BUILD THAT HITS 100000x A SECOND

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@King_Martha
Blood Pact is only great on melee builds that benefit from its flat damage and leech

For a caster build the % damage is needless. The base skill's vitality pulse works fine for a caster however.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@King_Martha
Correct. What you're doing is a common misconception by bad/new/inexperienced players. Stacking +% damage has diminishing returns, especially when you already have over +1100%. The base vitality damage on the totem is too low to be relevant, either.

@TurtleCat
Sort of. Keep in mind, it's only level 83 I believe? So there are points left over to spend. Wasting had the highest priority for the build, because of its massive -300 OA debuff. Also, consider that I invested in Tenacity of the Boar for additional DA, which could be dropped.

@DeathDog
Sigil is an excellent skill, and some of my items here have additional sigil procs.
Blood pact is garbage for reasons explained above.
The build has next to no attack speed, and is more based around kiting when necessary, face tanking with sigil and lifesteal when possible. It's not an auto attacker.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@VisualMaster
Rashalga
4u

Not nemesis with Cronley on this character but Fabius is a bitch and would die just as easily given how much I've killed him in Gladiator. I killed Ravager with this build but no facetanking, he fucking hurts.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Fried_Sushi
Thanks, this was really useful.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Emberfire
Ultos is probably more worth for lightning damage, might be able to get both but I dunno, haven't played around with lightning devotions too much.

SniperWish
SniperWish

So I have the full Perdition set, can I start going full Ret damage once I hit 40? Can this set carry me until I get the elite/ultimate version?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@eGremlin
is this build good for clearing or just single target?

FastChef
FastChef

@Garbage Can Lid
Amazing story, love it.
Horrible HORRIBLE fucking collage formatting, whoever made that need to be castrated, my eyes are bleeding.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@BlogWobbles
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/RZR9rb9V
Blitz is the heavy hitter in the build so you have strong AoE against tanky groups. All the procs and other skills kill trash fast enough.

askme
askme

@StrangeWizard
On my build I just couldn't find a reason to use sigil. I find it much more enticing to drop the totems that deal stupid damage than stack more healing that I don't need on a sub-par damage ability. The only way I die is by oneshot regardless, I already tank multiple titans even with just swarm heal. I'd rather put the points somewhere useful like curse for more bleed res reduction and movespeed reduction (making it easier to kite).

It just seems like it has no place in the build. I prefer it on a Doombolter because they usually lack ways to stay alive while running around but on AIDSmancer it just seems pointless and redundant.

TechHater
TechHater

@askme
Well, again, totems were useless to me prior to Malmouth because they just did absolutely shit for damage, I couldn't justify them. At least sigil, when fully maxed, hits a shit ton of enemies in Crucible, compared to the limited targets on totem.

But, as I said before, since totem has pretty good item support now, it might be really useful, and I'll take your word for its usefulness.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@askme
Overcapping Sigil makes it very strong, and it heals like crazy. IMO Overcapped Sigil > level 16 storm totem

girlDog
girlDog

@Sir_Gallonhead
^ this so much.
Im going Death Knight full cadence (weapon conversion to vitality) blasting through packs with only Revenant skeletons that scale with me and Blight Fiend bro for -DA debuff.
Plan to play 2h vitality/pet hybrid at endgame when I get proper gear like this @JunkTop

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@TechHater
hits a shit ton of enemies in Crucible, compared to the limited targets on totem.

Are you seriously having trouble clearing large swaths of enemies with new Pox that spreads so quickly that even Madagascar can't stop it

Even on Gladiator most enemies are nearly dead by the time they walk out of the spawn room filled with infected bodies since corpses spread the pox.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@SomethingNew
Nigger did you ever play with extra spawns and get to the later waves with 12 elites swarming your ass?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@SomethingNew
His build is apparently old so it probably isn't using pox for damage like some modern vit builds.
@CodeBuns
Swarm makes situations like that trivial though, the heal from sigil would be pointless. In fact, it would be strictly WORSE than the heal from Swarm since Swarm works even while they're running laps but Sigil has is stop ----> cast.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@PurpleCharger
Swarm on its own doesn't make it trivial. Again, this is a hardcore build that is meant to be able to do crucible. It's not an either or situation, it's combining multiple sources of healing for safety. Sigil + Wendigo Totem + Wendigo (devotion) + Swarm, procs, dreeg's etc. Layered defenses. Dying means the character is gone, don't forget that.

Which is not to say I'm claiming the build to be perfect or even optimized anymore. I had a lot of fun playing it at the time though.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@eGremlin
that completion bonus

Nice. What blacksmith gives you those sorts of bonuses? Malmouth?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Evil_kitten
Each relic has it's own unique set of possible completion bonuses. The Smith bonus isnt applied to them.
And yeah they are pretty amazing.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@JunkTop
Try this senpai

TechHater
TechHater

Current idea for my cabalist without items yet:
http://www.grimtools.com/calc/RZR9rLOV

What are good devotions that I can bind to my skelletons and what about the devotion setup in general?
Right now I am using Fiend and it works well butI think it might fall off once I get to level 100.

Soft_member
Soft_member

tfw I've done multiple side-quests inadvertently before getting the fetish back to the Coven

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@VisualMaster
what would be a good relic for cold reaper? I'm level 70 and still using glacier

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Crazy_Nice
probably scourge and when you are lvl 90 and got the recipe nidallas outbreak. there are a few other nightblade lategame relics but they got no cold damage and the other cold relic is really not designed to be used by nightblade, while the necro relics are aether/vit and pet based respectively

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Ring of Steel
leaves a frostburn storm
Throw knives
leaves a whirlpool
Blade burst
summons an eye of dreeg
Shadowstrike
fires off eagle claws

if you pick your devotions properly you're fucking unstoppable in this game i swear.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

soldier + inquisitor seems op, especially with inquisitor's seal. any of you tried it yet?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@New_Cliche
I'm half way through such a build. Not enough skill points for Inquisitor seal yet

@Fuzzy_Logic
is my goal

happy_sad
happy_sad

@BinaryMan

can you show me your skill tree?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@happy_sad
Seems like grimtool is down

Max: cadence, deadly momentum, menhir's bulwark, field commander, fighting spirit, inquisitor seal, steel resolve and deadly aim

1 point in other passive abilities. Scatter points across other skills as deemed fit

idontknow
idontknow

@TechHater
Anyone?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@RumChicken
Shit, forgot to mention that I maxed Blitz too with 1 point in Blindside.

Since another user pointed out in this thread that Blitz is kind of viable on its own, there's a consideration to move points from cadence and deadly momentum to other passives

I like Cadence however so I'm using it, even though having 2 active skills seem a bit expensive point wise

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I just managed to make a savage relic and guile. Do you think the guile buff ends up as more dps than savage with all the skeletons?

SniperWish
SniperWish

@idontknow
Definitely get Shepherd's Crook. I have Twin Fangs bound to Raise Skeletons and it is insane.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@SniperWish
Is twin fangs better than flame sentinel though? You can put fangs on fiend

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Empyrion shines upon me

Turns out "Overseer's" is the best helmet prefix unless you're Nightblade.

Methshot
Methshot

Is it worth doing the new content during normal?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Methshot
Lots of shrines to get important devotions to level them up earlier. Yes.

askme
askme

@Methshot
I'd say just for shrines, rep and extra reset potions its worth.
Not to mention that you get decent loot as well

whereismyname
whereismyname

Is there a way to auto-pickup crafting materials

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@whereismyname
No. But you can bind "pick up" to a keyboard button and mash it

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Would do you chaps think about a chaos focused Pyromancer with BWC as the main damage, with curse of frailty and pet auras in occultist (fire, burn, chaos from hellhound, elemental from familiar) maxed out?

I'm keen to try it but I don't want to waste the time levelling up only to find out its shit.

I had a BWC sorcerer in the DAIL mod (huge increase in enemy spawns + they all scale) which focused on fire+burn and it destroyed shit, but I didn't get into elite (though I did get to level 63).

I'm just thinking that Solael's witchfire would be great for it as it not only slows enemies, but also decreases resistances (on top of the reduced resistances from the cocktails in the first place)

Methnerd
Methnerd

Well, that certainly took a while, fuck lifesteal

King_Martha
King_Martha

what class has an easier time doing elite without specific gear?

SniperWish
SniperWish

/vg/thread/193177012#p193177012
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TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Skullbone
I was trying to come up with a build that does:

Mostly physical damage
Vindicator or Druid
Uses two handed melee weapons

Because that sword that converts Lightning to Physical damage made me think a build like that would be fun. Well it hasn't been fun at all so far since there is no synergy whatsoever and in paper it doesn't feel like something I'll have a good time playing with (note: This has been all theorycrafting so far, haven't made the character yet).

I've also been trying to see if I can combine fire and acid damage for a character because I had this old build stolen from the forums (/forums/showthread.php?t=48162) and I was wondering if I could modify it to add some more fire to it.

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