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CouchChiller
CouchChiller

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Skullbone
Skullbone

Xtra HERO Wonder Driver
Light Warrior / Link / Effect
Link 2 1900 / T B
2 “HERO” monsters
You can only use this card name’s (1) effect once per turn.
(1) If a “HERO” monster is Normal/Special Summoned to your zone this card points to: target 1 “Fusion” or “Polymerization” Spell, or “Change” Quick-Play Spell, in your GY; Set it to your field.
(2) If this card is destroyed by battle, or if this card in its owner’s possession is destroyed by an opponent’s card effect and sent to the GY: You can Special Summon 1 “HERO” monster from your hand.

White Aura Monokeros
Water Fish / Synchro / Effect
LV7 2500/1500
1 Fish Tuner + 1+ non-Tuner monsters
You can only use this card name’s (1) effect once per turn.
(1) When this card is Synchro Summoned: You can target 1 Fish monster in your GY; Special Summon it, but it cannot attack during this turn.
(2) If this card you control is destroyed by an opponent’s card (by battle or card effect) and sent to your GY: You can banish 1 other WATER monster from your GY; Special Summon this card, and if you do, it is treated as a Tuner.

White Salvage
Continuous Spell
You can only use this card name’s (1) effect once per turn.
(1): You can target 1 Fish monster in your GY; add it to your hand.
(2): If this card is destroyed by your opponent’s card effect and sent to the GY: You can take 1 Fish monster from your Deck, and either add it to your hand or Special Summon it.

White Howling
Trap Normal
(1) If you control a WATER monster: Target 1 Spell in your opponent’s GY; banish it, and if you do, for the rest of this turn, negate all Spell Effects on your opponent’s field.

SniperWish
SniperWish

2nd for trip shutting the fuck up

WebTool
WebTool

How good is your destiny draw?

SD33-JP022 OCG Style: Cybanet Storm/TCG Style: Cynet Storm
Field Spell Card
(1) Linked monsters on the field gain 500 ATK/DEF.
(2) The Link Summon of Link Monsters cannot be negated.
(3) If you take 2000 or more damage from battle or a card effect: you can activate this effect; shuffle the face-down cards in your Extra Deck, and if you do, excavate the top card of those cards. If it is a Cyberse Link monster, Special Summon it. Otherwise, return it to its original position.

RavySnake
RavySnake

SD33-JP002 Garbage Collector
Level 2 WIND Cyberse Effect Monster
ATK 100
DEF 1900
This card’s name’s effect can only be used once per turn.
(1) Target 1 Cyberse monster you control, except this card; return that card to the hand, and if you do, Special Summon 1 Cyberse monster from your Deck with the name Level and a different name than the monster that was returned to the hand.

SD33-JP004 Flame Buffalo
Level 3 FIRE Cyberse Effect Monster
ATK 1400
DEF 200
This card’s name’s effect can only be used once per turn.
(1) If this face-up card leaves the field: Discard 1 Cyberse monster and draw 2 cards.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@WebTool
USE ME

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@WebTool
Pay 6000 LP with Soul Charge
Summon 3 Firewall Dragons

Snarelure
Snarelure

@RavySnake
Cyberse continues to be garbage because there's no decent way to get any of these on the field without lolfirewall

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@haveahappyday
paying life is equal to taking damage

Retard

Lunatick
Lunatick

@RavySnake
Garbage Collector + Backup Secretary = Link 2 Draw 2

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Hosting

viagrandad
viagrandad

Threadly reminder to run Dark Law in all DARK decks, including our new LINK HERO and to never shut the fuck up, just reset that Mask Change familia

Playboyize
Playboyize

@GoogleCat
REad The cARD

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@WebTool
Solemn Warning
Negate summon + 1 free Link monster

whereismyname
whereismyname

Rumored archetypes getting support in LINK VRAINS Pack 2 (source:2ch)
1. Six Samurai
2. Fire Fist
3. Gishki
4. X-Saber
5. Dragunity
6. Ice Barrier
7. Jurrac
8. Wind-Up
9. Mecha Phantom Beast
10. Ghostrick
11. Artifact
12. Gusto
13. Sylvan
14. Tellarknight
15. Infernoid
16. Paleozoic
17. Majespecter
18. Dinomist
19. PSY-Frame
20. Super Quant

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

SD33-JP005 Lady Debugger
Level 4 LIGHT Cyberse Effect Monster
ATK 1700
DEF 1400
This card’s name’s effect can only be used once per turn.
(1) If this card is Normal or Special Summoned: You can add 1 Level 3 or lower Cyberse monster from your Deck to your hand.

Why did you retards post literally all of them except this one despite them all going up on YGOrg at the exact same time?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@viagrandad
Oh yeah I should run Mask Change in Kozmos oh wait that's stupid

Playboyize
Playboyize

Don't even reply to the narutard,

FastChef
FastChef

@Lord_Tryzalot
Because nobody gives a flying fuck about cyberse

TreeEater
TreeEater

@FastChef
Trips confirm, but I kind of want to build them now. The playstyle looks cute.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

We live in a world where Coelacanth.dek is getting way better support than Cyberse, the protagonist's deck. What a timeline.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@SomethingNew
not using it on the level 4

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

I swear to gof

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Poker_Star
Running Wickedwitch

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@Supergrass
Running Kozmos

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Poker_Star
Dark Law kills Kozmos dead. It stops them from floating.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Evil_kitten
Running

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

What's a fun and cool deck to play right now that's competitive and doesn't rely too much on the extra deck?

Techpill
Techpill

@Need_TLC
You're just too late for True Draco.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@CouchChiller
Just woke up - my Skype has been flooded with messages about how there's some Igknight monster that's provided the final proof that links were a mistake and there's also some other sort of shitstorm going on.

What the fuck did I miss?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Deadlyinx
You missed Konami jumping the shark and confirming poor sales. We got a link HERO and generic effectless links that can be made with tokens. Also 2nd alt art Firewall

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Deadlyinx
You missed the OCG being retarded for not having banned Grandsoil yet, that's all.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@w8t4u
Ah - yeah, I've just finished watching a video demonstration of the loop.

So how is this the final proof that links were a mistake? Is it what @happy_sad
was talking about?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

ALREADY POWERCREEPED
The damage control is past 9/11 levels

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Deadlyinx
@BunnyJinx
Ok, spoil me - how many threads do I need to go back? One or two?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Sharpcharm
Holy shit. You actually aren't retarded.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Need_TLC
The leaks were last thread. But it's pretty obvious Konami is desperate for selling right now with the Burning Abyss link and now the Hero and generic link monsters.

MPmaster
MPmaster

@BunnyJinx
It's just a tripfag sperging out again. Don't pay it any mind.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

cyberse continue to be hot fucking garbage

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@haveahappyday
Pay 6000 LP
How?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@TurtleCat
Summon six monsters, duh.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@King_Martha
raidraptorman.jpg

Emberfire
Emberfire

@kizzmybutt
Five monsters to your field, and a Kaiju to your opponents field, because Kaijus can be summoned on either side.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@CouchChiller
The new HERO is hot garbage.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Stupidasole
It does all they needed and more. It's sure as fuck more useful than Mistar Boi.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@haveahappyday
It does nothing for danklaw.dek and it's not pro-active in general.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Emberfire
Thought it was only in hand.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@CouchChiller
Is that it for leaks? I want to go to bed already

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Stupidasole
grabs super poly, which is nice to have around

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Carnalpleasure
@MPmaster
Well which is it?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Poker_Star
From the grave.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Nojokur
Those two things are completely unrelated.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

https://yu-gi-oh.jp/index.php?page=details&id=148

StonedTime
StonedTime

someone make a paywall edit with those new structure deck links

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Evil_kitten
OH MYGOD CONSTRUCT AAAAAAAAAAAA

CONSTRUCT
CONSTRUCTCONSTRUCT
CONSTRUCTCONSTRUCT

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Evil_kitten
aleisterafterbeinglimitedinocg.jpg

They are into the joke I see

JunkTop
JunkTop

tfw no Living Arrow in the TCG/OCG

Booteefool
Booteefool

the leaker fucking knew, posted earlier today about the powercode cards
https://twitter.com/mZiS3gwzN2Ogtts/status/930268647267766272

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Evil_kitten
IS THAT
A MOTHERFUCKING
INZEKTOR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsRke5rUqAk

WE AT IT AGAIN LADS

farquit
farquit

@Evil_kitten
WEEBS TRANSLADTETE

DeathDog
DeathDog

@StonedTime
Oneeeee paywall edit comiiiiin up!

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

You can finally summon Neos in a HERO deck, holy fuck.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@DeathDog
Haha epic funny joke

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@PackManBrainlure
wanting to summon a 2,500 vanilla
Why?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

>>195592848
How does that help Invoked?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

>>195592848
How the fuck does this help Invoked

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

>>195592848
It's not Invoked. It's a Prophecy card.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@Poker_Star
fug my bad

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Larger image of the Premium Pack.

5mileys
5mileys

@Evil_kitten
LVP1-JP026 Inzektor Picofarena
Link 2 DARK Insect Link Effect Monster
ATK 1000
Links: Bottom Left, Bottom Right
Materials: 2 Insect monsters
You can only use this card’s name’s (1) and (2) effects once per turn.
(1) If this card is Link Summoned: You can discard 1 card then target 1 other Insect monster you control; equip 1 Insect monster from your Deck to the targeted monster as an Equip Card. The equipped monster gains 500 ATK and DEF.
(2) You can target 3 Insect monsters in your Graveyard; return them to the Deck, then draw 1 card.

(The 1 effect’s bonus is not dependent on Picofarena)

LVP1-JP036 Madou Genten Crowley (Crowley the Origin of Prophecy)
Link 2 DARK Spellcaster Link Effect Monster
ATK 1000
Links: Bottom Left, Bottom Right
Materials: 2 Spellcaster monsters
This card’s name’s 1st effect can only be used once per turn.
(1) If this card is Link Summoned: Reveal 3 different “Spellbook” cards from your Deck to your opponent, then your opponent randomly chooses 1 of them. Add that card to your hand, and return the other cards to the Deck.
(2) Once per turn, you can Normal Summon Level 5 or higher Spellcaster monsters without a Tribute.

LVP1-JP056 Shaddoll Nephilim/Shaddoll Construct
Link 2 LIGHT Fairy Link Effect Monster
ATK 1200
Links: Left, Right
Materials: 2 Flip Monsters
You can only use this card name’s (1) and (2) effects once per turn each.
(1): During your Main Phase: You can Fusion Summon 1 “Shaddoll” Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck, using monsters from your hand or your side of the field as Fusion Materials.
(2): If this card is in your GY: You can send 1 “Shaddoll” card in your hand or face-up from your side of the field to the GY, and if you do, Special Summon this card from your GY.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

>>195592848
EXODIA

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Evil_kitten
Inzektor, shadoll and ????

Methshot
Methshot

@Evil_kitten
Is that a motherfucking King/Queen/Jack Knight new fusion/link?

WebTool
WebTool

@5mileys
They're all shit. Oh well.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

now that the leaks have settled, can we admit the trip fags were right about shit cards

5mileys
5mileys

@Evil_kitten
Move over, Jack. Time for the KING to command

w8t4u
w8t4u

>>195592848
secret DM support
Really nice

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Lord_Tryzalot
Put your trip back on faggot

Booteefool
Booteefool

@WebTool
That Shaddol is fucking GOTY. What is wrong with you?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@5mileys
these are all fair cards that help their archetype a bit but don't make them extremely busted
it's like konami learned something from spyrals
couldn't have asked for more really
except electrum that shit needs to not exist

5mileys
5mileys

@Lord_Tryzalot
This Crowley?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley

takes2long
takes2long

@Dreamworx
alright

w8t4u
w8t4u

@5mileys
Shaddoll Nephilim/Shaddoll Construct
Now they're just rubbing it in aren't they?

iluvmen
iluvmen

p_ _ _ s_ _ _ _

Emberburn
Emberburn

@DeathDog
Prophecy

DeathDog
DeathDog

@5mileys
Picofarena makes up for the single Hornet bringing it straight from deck and the new Construct opens 3 zones for fusion or other extra deck summons with eff #2. I'm okay with this.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Evil_kitten
Aleister created Spellbooks
What?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@WebTool
Inzektor Link is insane. The deck already manages to easily make 3 FIrewall, Trigate, Borrelload and Proxy from Dragonfly + Hornet + an equip, and this combo is easily versatile with stuff like imitations, transmodify, MST.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@takes2long
Thank you

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Booteefool
Won't help until Construct gets unbanned

viagrandad
viagrandad

@iluvmen
poor shill

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Emberburn
Thank you!

Spamalot
Spamalot

Spyrals have 1 more month to dominate before the next OCG ban list is announced.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Spamalot
This, the Shaddoll Link is especially smart. She can use herself as a material for Winda, then summon herself back from the Grave to open up two more zones. All the while giving all involved Shaddolls their Grave effects.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Should i run three toon table of contents and one toon world in magibullets?
I have been testing a lot and they are really good when i have the monsters down but i have been bricking more times than i wished i have

Soft_member
Soft_member

@5mileys
Construct can't dump Light monsters
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

SniperGod
SniperGod

wtf guys, should I buy HEROes now?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Spamalot
I'm considering making them myself, since I happen to have 3 Tables of Contents.
Is it worth it though? Like will the deck be fun to play for long?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Shadowmist got bought out
only one printing
Fug

Skullbone
Skullbone

@5mileys
the Prophecy lets you normal summon them, doesn't special summon them to trigger World
Slight dissapointment

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Dreamworx
The deck is extremely fun for me but the problem is that it bricks quite a bit, so i'd like some tips to fix it
and since i also wanted to play weathery i already pre-ordered a box, i don't remember the last time i actually bought a sealed product

idontknow
idontknow

@5mileys
Shaddoll Nephilim
penguins can turbo this out
can make anoyatillis
feelsgoodman
holy shit its penguin support

likme
likme

@Gigastrength
to clarify
this is the deck i'd be playing irl since i don't have ash blossoms or drolls and i don't really feel like spending a lot of money for them
that's why you see only two ogres and a maxx

Techpill
Techpill

@Gigastrength
I'm buying some cunt at my locals a box in return for his Brilliant engine, and I might trade what Magibullets he pulls off him in return. The inconsistency doesn't sound appealing though, so I'll need to think about it.
Hell, I don't even know what I'd do with a Brilliant Engine.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Techpill
i wish upstart was at three like in the ocg
i'd have a lot less problems with it

Firespawn
Firespawn

@5mileys
At last the Prophecy Link!
The first give me reasons to literally not play Crescent at first, but I don't know if that's a good idea.
The second effect is something I really appreciate, not only to try fun stuf like building a deck around Emperor of Prophecy and use that effect for him, but also because if my opponent happen to have a SS restriction yet I somehow managed to keep this alive, I could just NS Junon.
I like this
@AwesomeTucker
Hey... you may be right.
@Skullbone
I'm gonna admit that I am a little dissapointed too, but I still like it.
Regardless, this card obviously goes to three for a +1 Spellbook each turn.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Haha wouldn't it be crazy if they unbanned Construct to shill the new Link.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@5mileys
So this means the Invoked Link is yet to be revealed?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Gigastrength
I just tested a few games against the Ygopro AI; you're right, it's very fun.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

So is the Link supposed to be Lapis turning into Construct? She looks much younger and has shorter strings.
Also reminder that Shaddolls did literally nothing wrong.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Kill yourself narutard

likme
likme

@Skullbone
I expect "white" fish support card so I could play with my 2 Great Whites and White Dolphin man. Not generic Fish bullshit support that can be splashed into Shark xyz

askme
askme

@kizzmybutt
I doubt it but hopeful.

Methshot
Methshot

New Link doesn't trigger Shaddoll
need at least 4 Shaddolls to summon it and get it back into a good zone
at least the 2 last shaddolls will trigger
need to summon Winda otherwise you need specific attribute materials
this shit is fucking LIGHT just to cocktease Construct even more

IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR BROS

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@askme
I doubt it
nigga, the reason the link in Link Vrains pack got leaked was because the reprints got leaked

so this is the Prophecy link, the Invoked link will come later and will probably be a new Invoked beast

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Evil_kitten
@5mileys
Aleister is the source of Spellbooks
LORE

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Methshot
2 Flip monsters
Krawldolls?

Techpill
Techpill

@Methshot
NS Rescue Cat
SS two Guard Dogs
LS loli Construct
FS, either summoning Winda with a doll or Shekhinaga with one of the various EARTH monsters you run
discard doll to SS back

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Raving_Cute
I missed that leak, was it just invoked or all reprints?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Carnalpleasure
If by 'Shaddols;; you mean monsters that were controlled by Core, then yes. Dunno about this ghost thing in Genius though. But learning from previous DT storyline, the villain will be something that was sealed

@Methshot
It has self-reviving effect, that's already good. Also can you explain to me about the Winda part? I don't get it.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Sir_Gallonhead
all Shaddolls are DARK so you're going to need to summon Winda all the time you don't have a specific attribute monster on your hand/field
@PurpleCharger
what? Link Vrains is 20 new Link support cards for fan-favorite archetypes with the rest of the cards on the pack being reprints
@Spamalot
there's no need for extra engines since Falco can already summon stuff from graveyard, it's just that it's fucking slow to do

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Sir_Gallonhead
He's assuming he has no EARTH or FIRE monsters in hand to go for Shek or Grysta.
If the Link could change it's attribute it would be literally perfect.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Sir_Gallonhead
It's arrows are Left and Right and it's LIGHT.
You can either do Construct (lol) or Winda, and it has to use the Link as material because of its arrows.

5mileys
5mileys

@Boy_vs_Girl
It was non-anime, not fan-favorite

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Boy_vs_Girl
Relying on slow Falco to make the Link
Krawlers can do it faster and give easy access into Shek.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Boy_vs_Girl
Yeah but you or someone mentioned leaked Invoked reprints so you know with certainty there is a link monster. Was it only Invoked That had reprints leaked? Is what I'm asking

Booteefool
Booteefool

Konami releases bad cards

"The game is dying and selling like shit!"

what's the argument here? That they only release good cards when the game is selling well? You know that's not true

askme
askme

Level 11 Shaddoll when?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@MPmaster
@GoogleCat
@Boy_vs_Girl
Okay, thank you. But Ash is staple, don't Shaddol have enough MD space?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@CouchChiller
Krawlers can do it faster
and that matters fuck all because Krawlers are shit
@5mileys
everything released was stuff that got plenty of sales; there's an Aromage link for fuck's sake
@happy_sad
you can google the list of leaked monsters for Link Vrains, user

MPmaster
MPmaster

@lostmypassword
We're talking about the Link Monster, not the Normal Spell Fusion.
The Link can only do from hand or field, not deck, so you'd be wasting a live Ash.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@happy_sad
https://twitter.com/mZiS3gwzN2Ogtts
Here, this is the account that leaked the VRAINS pack leaks (the one that gets posted around) that have been correct so far. He also leaked the reprints.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Crazy_Nice
i'm just stating what the pack said, which was non-anime archtypes.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Crazy_Nice
Krawler Dendrite might as well be Shaddoll Dendrite.
Pawns doesn't specify needing to target "Krawler" monsters to flip.
Shadows doesn't specify "Krawler" flip monsters for the battle effect.
You already have access into the Subterror Link, which is great flip support.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Crazy_Nice
everything released was stuff that got plenty of sales; there's an Aromage link for fuck's sake

Did NK sold well in Japan?

Techpill
Techpill

dakini
free search every fucking turn from GRAVE/deck
destory a monster when summoned
why is this card still not limited to 1? nothing else can even compete with its ridiculously broken effect
also, the new card box fucking SUCKS

5mileys
5mileys

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Artworks:Firewall_Dragon

If you had to choose one artwork, which one would you choose?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Sharpcharm
He plays Noble Knights

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Gigastrength
Can we make Krawler Shaddol Behemoth a thing?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@5mileys
This one.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Sharpcharm
considering they printed support for them in EXFO out of fucking nowhere it's probable. The TCG exclusives actually sell well there, I remember the Kaiju announcement getting a shit ton of retweets (for Yugioh OCG stuff)

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@lostmypassword
I remember the Kaiju announcement getting a shit ton of retweets
Around 1000 in like 5 minutes.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@5mileys
3>1>2

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Techpill
duel links general is that way user

farquit
farquit

@Techpill
i wish cyber angels were good.

Methnerd
Methnerd

is Trip our guy?

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Evil_kitten
Jokes on you, I only need 1 to FTK.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Boy_vs_Girl
all Shaddolls are DARK so you're going to need to summon Winda all the time you don't have a specific attribute monster on your hand/field
This Link monster is light, so if Construct wasn't banned this thing could go into that.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Firewall Dragon getting YET another artwork
It took Odd-Eyes, what, 3 years to get a new artwork? Why is this thing getting so many alternate art this soon?
@CodeBuns
I'm on the assumption that Konami stays being a salty fuck and doesn't unban Construct. Otherwise this monster would be much better.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Methshot
New Link doesn't trigger Shaddoll
Yes it does.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@CodeBuns
you can now fuse the captured Construct into her fully corrupted El-Shaddoll form yourself
Thanks Konami!

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@Nude_Bikergirl
I think he meant on summon.

Bidwell
Bidwell

@CodeBuns
They may try it out at 1 once LVP1 comes out.

askme
askme

@CouchChiller
Poor sales.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Methnerd
no, she's a cutegirl.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Methnerd
You mean the one spamming his MS Paint memes?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@CodeBuns
Shaddolls are hot garbage outside of Winda, the only reason they havent unbanned her is because they knew if they did everyone would go play shaddolls rather than their less-fun current product. But now since theyre shilling dolls I expect construct to "magically" get unbanned.

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Methnerd
Is he big?

Flameblow
Flameblow

try to catch up on last thread and see what this Igknight shitstorm was
entire thread is nothing but a kid who doesn't know his history vs people who know better
Fuck, I don't know what else I expected. I sometimes wonder if the early 5Ds era was the golden age because it got the balance of archetypes to non-archetypes right. From Zexal onwards I pretty much only remember archetypes dueling, but at the very least I know that every format prior to Goat was 40goodcards.dek mirror matches coupled with the occasional stall match up.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Spoiled card list for Premium Pack 20:
1. "Odd-Eyes" Pendulum Monster
2. "D/D/D" Pendulum Monster
3. "Raidraptor" Pendulum Monster
4. "Phantom Knights" Pendulum Monster
5. "Predaplant" Pendulum Monster
6. Fusion Pendulum Monster
7. "White" Synchro Monster
8. Xyz Pendulum Monster
9. "White" Spell Card
10. "White" Trap Card
11. "Arcana Knight" Link Monster
12. "HERO" Link Monster
13. "Stardust" Link Monster
14. "Utopic" Link Monster
15. "Odd-Eyes" Link Monster

Source:2ch

This one is actually possible and I am outraged!

hairygrape
hairygrape

The following 20 archetypes are rumored to be supported in LINK VRAINS Box (source: discord)
1. AtmosX
2. Trip With Eyes of Blue
3. King of Braves ALSO KNOWN AS GETTER EMPEROR
4. Evolkaiser
5. Chaos Goddess's Petbot
6. Diamante
7. Marzipan
8. Scorpion
9. Valkyrie SKIES
10. EmpoleMew
11. Narue
12. rd4
13. MirageTank
14. Sho
15. B I G C U M M I E S
16. GETTER EMPEROR
17. Yami Kaiba
18. Dragsolute Madman
19. Dark Swifty
20. Pieps

Methnerd
Methnerd

@RumChicken
out of White fish support card
have to wait 4 months from my proxy supplier
Damn

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Garbage Can Lid
LOL SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE FELL FOR THE PAYWALL

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Methnerd
KYS

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@BlogWobbles
fuck off

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Ignoramus
GIVE ME THAT WALLET

cum2soon
cum2soon

When will Teward stop being a fucking cuck and stop censoring art?

takes2long
takes2long

@Methnerd
melon

MPmaster
MPmaster

Is Trip the worst tripfag on Veeky Forums?

takes2long
takes2long

@Ignoramus
t. FELL FOR THE FUCKING PAYWALL LOLOLOLOL

Evilember
Evilember

@happy_sad
You missed Konami jumping the shark and confirming poor sales.
When did this happen?

and generic effectless links that can be made with tokens
I didn't see that either. I must be blind.

Booteefool
Booteefool

moot was right, australians really are the worst shitposters, damn trip for eternity

Illusionz
Illusionz

@hairygrape
Scorp is the only good thing in this list wtf

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@RumChicken
"Arcana Knight" Link Monster

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@cum2soon
Apparently most of it is KoJ assuming that the rest of the world wants censored artwork (this is why Korea also gets censored cards).

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Skullbone
Atleast you can run it in DM.dek witch is pretty fun

Soft_member
Soft_member

@haveahappyday
domestic violence isn't funny
This guy is fucking lying and anyone buying it is more retarded than Shitpost with Eyes of Shit

Booteefool
Booteefool

@haveahappyday
all hexagrams are meant to be the star of david
fucking tewart

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Use me.....

SniperGod
SniperGod

@SomethingNew
Soon

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@RumChicken
Stardust Link Monster
fucking yes!

SniperWish
SniperWish

@RumChicken
source: thine rear

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Evil_kitten
actually believing that shit

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

what are some good this is bait YGO images?

Inmate
Inmate

@RumChicken
"Raidraptor" Pendulum Monster
Fuck off.
"Utopic" Link Monster and not Gagaga support/rework
this is probably legit

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Evil_kitten
Why can't Konami stop hating on Synchros?
Synchron Extreme was severely disappointing and the hit on Gofu destroyed any hopes of Dark Synchros playing with the new Crystron Link.
Plant Synchro, Fish Synchros with Fishborg Blaster and Laval Quasar could never be worse than what we have to deal with these days.
And the TCG only releasing the needed Laval cards back then with Ophion was not funny.
@SomethingNew
Can this 1-Card Link 5 make the White Synchros any good if Fishborg Blaster came back?
They're going max shill mode right now so they would probably unban Construct with Fishborg Blaster just for the Sales.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@BunnyJinx
Synchron Extreme was severely disappointing
said no one ever. Synchron Extreme was full of good stuff, especially if you didn't already have a Junk Doppel deck (which is the target market for Structure Decks anyway).
Accel Synchron is good
Jet Warrior is good
Jet Synchron is good

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

be at locals
against rich dumdum kid
use pre-prep
get ashed
say "oh you can't ash pre-prep because it adds two cards and not one"
oh, ok
win

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Inmate
this is probably legit
;_;

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@haveahappyday
How do we convince Tewart to make a public appearance?

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Spazyfool
I-I'm sure we'll get a Gagaga Structure Deck soon that makes them good, user! Just hang in there!

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Inmate
Gagagas are outdated shit anyways, from back before Konami realised just spamming the same level was a way better way of doing Xyz.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@PurpleCharger
wanted to post some old ass twitter account that was named kevin teward as joke, even talked about six samuray around like 2011 or something
I tweeted at it once and asked if hes still there
it's deleted now

Spooky as fuck

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Evil_kitten
If the X-HERO is any indication, it's gonna suck and not help synchros at all

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@BinaryMan
say "oh you can't ash pre-prep because it adds two cards and not one"
my sides

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@Lunatick
Are you saying the X-HERO doesn't help fusions?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@SomethingNew
I already am, mate. I'll make all of my opponents choke on your fishstick soon enough.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Lunatick
Xtra Hero helps Dheroes a lot at least, you can actually make Dusktopia now.

Techpill
Techpill

@PurpleCharger
I'm surprised not one has brought a gun into a YCS/Worlds yet. This is America were talking about.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@kizzmybutt
Why would you make Dusktopia, though?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

IRL, Aleister Crowley created a tarot deck
Aleister the Invoker created a magical organization based on the tarot
DEEPEST LORE

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@Techpill
yugioh players spend all their money on cards, they cant afford guns.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@kizzmybutt
D-Heroes

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Skullbone
Rank 6 plays

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@New_Cliche
Reread that post.

Playboyize
Playboyize

@DeathDog
not liking the unironic best HERO deck
Mali is THE linkmaker of our generation

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Evil_kitten
So what's the bottom monster?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Playboyize
D-Heroes

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@GoogleCat
It really doesn't. it's too slow and heroes already don't have alot of main deck cards worth running or any that special summon another hero.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@Supergrass
New Super Quantal

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Implying the X-Hero isn't good in a game where Super Polymerization is still legal

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Supergrass
Looks like a magnet if you ask me.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

I would prefer the remaining Masked HERO than a link HERO.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@BinaryMan
it adds two cards not one so ash won’t work.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

replying to yourself

Absolutley shameful

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Burnblaze
Kill all HEROes

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@New_Cliche
Malicious
A Hero Lives
Vyon
Bubbleman

viagrandad
viagrandad

@New_Cliche
literally bubbleman

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Caspar is the short print
6 from a case

Fuck this game, boycott when

Snarelure
Snarelure

how they will release Link Vrains here? Like Duelist Saga or Mini Box?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Garbage Can Lid
Malicious
You need another one to do that risking bricking if you draw them both
A Hero lives
losing half your life on a play that could easily by blocked is foolishness
Vyon
This card doesn't special summon itself
Bubbleman
You need an empty hand to special summon it, by the time you've done that, you've reduced yourself to top decking in a HERO deck.

Heroes are trash without any real main deck cards or synergy and with 170 of those fuckers that's just pathatic. Sorry, but if this is the standard for the previous protags's links they're all going to be this level of shit

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Supergrass
HEROfags being this fucking entitled
your shit deck has been clogging boosters since 12 years ago, fuck off and take what you get

SniperGod
SniperGod

@haveahappyday
Hell no, I want more GOOD Hero cards, along with more Odd-Eyes cards,Synchro warriors and Gagaga cards. Yugi cards can eat a dick, not a single one of those fucking things were good and they showed that for 2 years of shitty support. I especially want more Odd Eyes support because the extra deck pendulum cards aren't viable at all in this fucking format, they weren't even in the old one because Wing doesn't have a fucking tuner, there's no way to summon raging and rebellion and poison was unfairly nerfed, same with Reji's pendulum extra deck cards, it's stupid as hell. I'm not gonna shut the hell up about this, you'll have to fucking shoot me and rip my goddamn voice box out if you want that.

SniperWish
SniperWish

2ch isn't where leaks come from btw so stop using it as a source for your fake leaks.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@SniperWish
The only reason he does that is because someone said it would be more believable

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

When is the next OCG ban list?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@ZeroReborn
Every 3 months, so since it was October 1st probably early January

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@haveahappyday
Sorry your favorite archetype isn't popular enough to be "clogging boosters since 12 years ago". Maybe you should get better taste? There's a reason Hero still get cards 13 years later on a regular basis and you throwing a bitch fit wont change shit. Deal with it or play a different game.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@SniperGod
I want more GOOD Hero cards, along with more Odd-Eyes cards,Synchro warriors and Gagaga cards.
Jesus christ no. All of those archtypes are boring and samey as fuck. Look at the fucking Odd-eyes cards, theyre all the same ugly dragons with technicolor puke designs.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Fried_Sushi
I'm happy with you fucks getting mediocre support and reminding you that 90% of your cards are anime original vomit.

Maybe learn to deal with it, kiddo?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Emberburn
It doesn't matter how bad 90% of the cards are because the deck has still be tier 1 at one point in every single era it's been around for. That 10% of good cards are more than enough.

Methshot
Methshot

Trickstar Carobein is a non-brick replacement for the 1 of Lilybell
Nice.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@viagrandad
Heroes weren't tier 1 in GX era ;)

Methshot
Methshot

@Methshot
Sure would be nice if any of this new support actually turned Trickstars into something fun.

askme
askme

@Fuzzy_Logic
They were tier 1 and tier 0.

Emberfire
Emberfire

What makes a deck "fun", /dng/?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@askme
tier 0
Stop.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Emberfire
not being fucking burn

Inmate
Inmate

@Spamalot
Airblade Turbo.

WebTool
WebTool

@askme
That was just Dheros piggybacking off monarchs success.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@SomethingNew
I already

@Dreamworx
Fish Brofist

eGremlin
eGremlin

@CouchChiller
@Sharpcharm
@Evil_kitten
@StrangeWizard
@DeathDog
What is happening with the cards? the art of the new monsters seem cheap

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Inmate
meme formats that died immediately

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@SomethingNew
All of those archtypes are boring and samey as fuck.
hating on gagaga
Fuck off. I'd kill for new Gagaga cards, Utopia shit gets all of the love. How you make an archetype that can shit out ANY Rank and then just focus on the R4 ace is beyond me.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Poker_Star
Gagaga are literally just edgy Dark Magician ripoffs, end yourself

massdebater
massdebater

@WebTool
They were used in multiple decks and being the core engine isn't piggybacking. Piggybacking is every deck throwing them in because of how successful the engine is.
@PurpleCharger
I-it doesn't count!

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@PurpleCharger
meme formats

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Soft_member
archetype of cosplayers with like three other related archetypes all with their own gimmick
except zubaba we won't talk about zubaba
one (1) card is a dark magician reference with some highschool edge tacked on
Neck yourself first

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

SD33-JP022 OCG Style: Cybanet Storm/TCG Style: Cynet Storm
Field Spell Card
(1) Linked monsters on the field gain 500 ATK/DEF.
(2) The Link Summon of Link Monsters cannot be negated.
(3) If you take 2000 or more damage from battle or a card effect: you can activate this effect; shuffle the face-down cards in your Extra Deck, and if you do, excavate the top card of those cards. If it is a Cyberse Link monster, Special Summon it. Otherwise, return it to its original position.

what the fuck is this supposed to do

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Nude_Bikergirl
Meme

askme
askme

@Nude_Bikergirl
This card is fake, right?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Nude_Bikergirl
STORM ACCESS

askme
askme

@whereismyname
Next you'll tell me that they already know the contents of Legend Duelist 3 and it has cards for Marik, Bakura, the Paradox Brothers, Asuka, Edo and Saiou (Arcana Force guy).

Skullbone
Skullbone

I’m about to make a yugioh related website. What type of regular content would you like to see apart from news updates of the game?

No I’m not including tripfag/discord drama

girlDog
girlDog

@Skullbone
What type of regular content would you like to see apart from news updates of the game?
nigga no one's interested in your blog, either fill some hole in the market or fuck off

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Nude_Bikergirl
it's a test card for Skills in the ocg/tcg

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@Evil_kitten
Going by set numbers, it appears we're getting 3 GO Links and 12 Manga cards. I wonder why they from 20 cards the last few years to 15 this year.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Skullbone
just do a fb pge and fuck off

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Nude_Bikergirl
SEIZE THE WIND PLAYMAKER

SniperGod
SniperGod

@Skullbone
just fuck off

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Nude_Bikergirl
First 2 effects are okay I guess. Third effect is a meme and I guess in pure Cyberse it’s alright. The problem is deck space in Cyberse is already so tight that I really don’t think this is practical enough to run.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Nude_Bikergirl
So Yusaku basically gets a free Link monster thanks to this field, his entire fucking deck and extra deck is cyberse, even more, he's got more than enough to fill out all 15 slots. You could use. Through nobody would be stupid enough to attack a wide open player with this up without negating it or ending the game right then and there before they pop out something

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Skullbone
Petdeck duels would be nice.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Skullbone
meme decks

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Skullbone
archetype lores, meta timeline, decklist for petdecks, tips like the archetype threads from pojo.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

bandit keith archetype
why

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@SomethingNew
It's not and archetype.

Soft_member
Soft_member

What decks do people put Brilliant Fusion into now?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Soft_member
Gem-Knights.

DeathDog
DeathDog

@Skullbone
It'll flop.
But in the off chance it doesn't OCG and TCG Sidedeck guides. The side deck is prolly the most important part of a deck and even a lot of hardcore players tend to make shit side decks. If your not siding in at least 5 or more cards every game except when you already hard counter your opponent with your maindeck and your not playing FTK shit your playing sub-optimally.

FastChef
FastChef

Okay so i need a bit of help. Im trying to make a deck around monsters that attack directly and I want to know how I'm doing so far and if you guys have any suggestions

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@FastChef
heartlandraco

Supergrass
Supergrass

Why does water get all the godlike generic support.
Gimme some WIND or FIRE Generic support with high quality.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@FastChef
Scrap it all and just make Watts.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Spamalot
Only some of the watts can attack directly so that wont work my dude

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@kizzmybutt
You combine Hunders for swarming and the Level 4 Watts for attacking, throw in some backrow that will protect them like Quaking Mirror Force or Honest, and you have yourself a deck. Thunder Sea Horse and Ties of the Brethren are also a must.

massdebater
massdebater

@Fuzzy_Logic
close enough

FastChef
FastChef

@DeathDog
@StrangeWizard

Oh sweet, generic Links that are...
Low ATK
No effect

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Skullbone
How about a TCG website that actually has more than 0-5 topping deck lists on it for all the tournaments?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@FastChef
galaxy tomahawk, dude

cum2soon
cum2soon

@RumChicken
"Odd-Eyes" Pendulum and Link Monster
This pleases me.

viagrandad
viagrandad

So when are the alt-arts coming out in the TCG?
I want to get a borreload and firewall without selling a kidney.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Sir_Gallonhead
alright first attempt. its probably 100% terrible though

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@viagrandad
Next year

w8t4u
w8t4u

@RavySnake
Nah you're pretty close. Wattcine isn't great though. And Wattjustment does nothing because all of your monsters are Level 4.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Lord_Tryzalot
damn, from the art/atk I thought she would be related to reflect bounder

Emberburn
Emberburn

@w8t4u
well thats dumb of me i dont know why I put wattjustment in there. Thanks user. I fiddle around with it some more and see what I can make from there

eGremlin
eGremlin

@SomethingNew
Because they were running out of DM characters with actual archetypes to give support to.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Harmless_Venom
Make Dragon Rulers great again!

Booteefool
Booteefool

@eGremlin
thats why it was so half assed then

Booteefool
Booteefool

@RumChicken
If Dragon Rulers went to 3 tomorrow, they would be a decent T2 deck.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Booteefool
This.
D-rulers would be fine if you put the big ones to 3, kept the babies to 3 but left it at that.

askme
askme

@Booteefool
Yup, most DM characters didn't use archetypes, they used "themes" that rarely shared any common names. Bandit Keith's "theme" was Machines, and since most of them were Dark and his ace monster used coin flips, that's what Konami went with.
For Weevil they went with generic insect support and equips.

They're gonna have to really reach if they want to give legacy support for anyone else.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@CouchChiller
The only thing that made them broken beyond repair was Rejuvenation, and even now the state of the game means only gaining advantage at the End Phase is slow as fuck.

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Emberfire
Yep.
They'd probably be fine right if they where at 3 now.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@whereismyname
The amount of salt generated by retards and fearmongering yugitubers would be massive.
The only thing that DRulers to 3 would really do is create a T2 deck and boost Mermails.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@cum2soon
It's probably Arc-Pendulum Dragon

Firespawn
Firespawn

@kizzmybutt
You do realize that list is just a shitpost, right?

MPmaster
MPmaster

Trickstars!

Inmate
Inmate

@Booteefool
quit shilling your account

Techpill
Techpill

@Nude_Bikergirl
It's meant to force you to buy extra sleeves so all your ED monsters match.

RumChicken
RumChicken

@MPmaster
What [email protected] game is this?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Evil_kitten
Construct is in a FUCKING INFERNOID TUBE
NO INFERNOIDS LINK
AM I BEING MOCKED?! BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE I AM BEING MOCKED.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Sir_Gallonhead
What would an Infernoid link work like?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@New_Cliche
Parallel World Fusion for Noids on summon.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Harmless_Venom
Why shouldn't that just be a spell.
or do you want it's effect to be "searchable" by being in the ED?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Garbage Can Lid
I'm not really picky here, I'd take either one.

viagrandad
viagrandad

@New_Cliche
2 Monsters with different Levels
You can only use this card name's 1 effect once per turn.
1: When this card is Link Summoned, send 1 "Infernoid" monster from your Deck to the GY.
2: You can also banish "Infernoid" monsters from your deck to summon "Infernoid" monsters from your hand or GY.
3: You can tribute this card; Fusion Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck, by shuffling your banished Fusion Materials listed on it into your deck.

idontknow
idontknow

@Fuzzy_Logic
Fair enough.
I feel Infernoids are in the right time peroid to get a link, but a link-monster feels kinda out of place for a deck that's main strat ignores the ED.

tfw your favorite pet deck isn't in the right time period to get good link-support.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Vylon Zeframega
Link Rating 3 LIGHT Thunder Link Effect Monster
ATK 2500
Link Arrows: Bottom Left, Bottom, Bottom Right
Link Materials: 2+ Monsters with different types except tokens
(1) When this card is Link Summoned apply 1 of the following effects:
●Special Summon up to 3 face-up Pendulum Monsters from your Extra Deck in defense position, but they have their effects negated.
●Special Summon up to 2 Level 4 or lower Tuner Monsters and 1 Level 4 non-Tuner Monster from your hand, deck, or GY in defense position, but they have their effects negated.
(2) Once per turn, you can target 2 cards on the field, including 1 face-up Spell Card (Quick Effect); destroy them.
Cannot be tributed. You cannot Special Summon Monsters, except Pendulum and Synchro Monsters.

DEEPEST LORE

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Sir_Gallonhead
Source: your boipussy

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Sir_Gallonhead
Special Summon up to 2 Level 4 or lower Tuner Monsters and 1 Level 4 non-Tuner Monster from your hand, deck, or GY in defense position, but they have their effects negated.
MY BODY IS READY

MPmaster
MPmaster

@Evil_kitten
THE BOTTOM ONE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE HERO NOT THE FAGGOT WIZARD IN THE MIDDLE

Flameblow
Flameblow

@CouchChiller
Can someone remind me what the name of that pose is?

Bidwell
Bidwell

@RumChicken
which*

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Flameblow
dubstep

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Evil_kitten
@5mileys
001 - Perpetual King Archfiend - Threat of the Dark Demon World - Feb/2003
006 - Gladiator Beast Dragacius - GB's debuted on Gladiator's Assault - July/2007
011 - Kyrios, Dominion of the Lightsworn - Light of Destruction - February/2008
016 - Gem-Knight Link - Duel Terminal: Vylon Decends - April/2010
021 - Lswarm Link - Duel Terminal: Sacred Star Kinght - October/2011
026 - Inzektor Picofarena - Order of Chaos - November/2011
031 - Hieratic Seal of the Celestial Spheres - Galactic Overlord - February/2012
036 - Crowley the Origin of Prophecy - Return of the Duelist - April/2012
041 - Madolche Link - Return of the Duelist - April/2012
046 - Mermail Link - Abyss Rising - July/2012
051 - Noble Knight Link - Extra Pack: Swords of Knights - May/2013
056 - Shaddoll Nephilim / Shaddoll Construct - The Duelist Advent (DUEA) - April/2014
061 - Qliphort Genius - Next Challengers - July/2014
066 - Ritual Beast Link - Booster SP: Tribe Force - October/2014
071 - Zefra Link - Crossover Souls - February/2015
076 - Aromage Link - Clash of Rebellions - April/2015
081 - Cherubini, Black Angel of the Burning Abyss - Extra Pack 2015 - September/2015
086 - Heavymetalfoes Electrum - The Dark Illusion - April/2016
091 - Crytron Needlefiber - Invasion of Venom - July/2016
096 - Invoked Link - Booster SP: Fusion Enforcers - November/2016

RumChicken
RumChicken

@eGremlin
Thanks

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@kizzmybutt
The Odd Eyes Pendulum monster is Odd Eyes Phantasma Dragon from the manga, the xyz pendulum and fusion pendulum are Yuto and Yuri's manga dragons.

iluvmen
iluvmen

how the FUCK do I build/play Shaddolls

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@RumChicken
Spoiled card list for Premium Pack 20:
1. "Odd-Eyes" Pendulum Monster
Odd-Eyes Phantasma Dragon
2. "D/D/D" Pendulum Monster
D/D/D Super-Dimensional King Zero Paradox
3. "Raidraptor" Pendulum Monster
Finally we'll see what Reiji made for Shun.
4. "Phantom Knights" Pendulum Monster
5. "Predaplant" Pendulum Monster
I wonder if Yuto and Yuri will get anymore duels in the manga.
6. Fusion Pendulum Monster
Starving Venomy Dragon
7. "White" Synchro Monster
White Aura Monokeros
8. Xyz Pendulum Monster
Dark Anthelion Dragon
9. "White" Spell Card
White Salvation
10. "White" Trap Card
White Howling
11. "Arcana Knight" Link Monster
12. "HERO" Link Monster
Xtra HERO Wonder Driver
13. "Stardust" Link Monster
14. "Utopic" Link Monster
15. "Odd-Eyes" Link Monster
Source:2ch
I would be so happy as an Arc-V fag.

MPmaster
MPmaster

animetards

Skullbone
Skullbone

@hairygrape
It's not working.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@MPmaster
Shut up, this place used to be jumping before Vrains boring ass era and now we have bad sells and boring ass threads bordering on zombie threads like /blaz/ over there.

Evilember
Evilember

@Skullbone
I don't know if you would still call this dolls but it's a possibility.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Pure HERO's, HERO's with the Malicious/Vyon engine or Brilliant HERO's?

askme
askme

@Fried_Sushi
This list is fake, but it looks like we'll be getting 4 more White cards, I fucking hate Ren

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Gigastrength
Oh yeah, forgot about him.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@StonedTime
HERO's with the Malicious/Vyon engine
This is the correct option to make use of the new link while sticking to the effective danklaw.dek strategy.

5mileys
5mileys

@w8t4u
alright thanks mate, how many vyons would you suggest?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@w8t4u
to make use of the new link
But why would you want that?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Carnalpleasure
t. guy who has never played HERO's

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@LuckyDusty
t. guy who plays HERO as fusion spam petdeck

Skullbone
Skullbone

@BunnyJinx
post your list mate

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Supergrass
My God. Trickstar Holly Angel is literally maded for the purpose of breeding at this point
Still not big enough as Leo Dancer who is literally begging you

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Sharpcharm
Leo Dancer who is literally begging you
Boy, you don't know what begging is

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

How do I practice link decks without online?
Is there a offline CPU mode yet?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Skullbone
Just google any topping HERO deck, shitter.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Carnalpleasure
Well in my head it sounds like that.
But yeah you are right, maybe.
That doesn't make Leo Dancer (or Holy Angel) less bredeable.
@Sharpcharm
aoi
Is she at least good now? She is still a qt for me

Evilember
Evilember

@BunnyJinx
he won't post his list
lmao

DeathDog
DeathDog

How do I efficiently unwarp foil cards? My Darklords have warped quite a bit, and I would like to play them sometime soon. Also, how warped can cards be to still be considered tournament legal? I've seen people play with varying degrees of warping cards where the top cards of a deck would slightly curve downwards.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@SomethingNew
I absolutely love her voice when she's not Blue Angel or moody.
The other times are a hit or a miss, mostly on the miss side.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@takes2long
I knew S4 was gonna do a pic of her. Inzektor is his favourite archetype
@SniperGod
I see. Still, I do love Serena more in terms of Yu-Gi-Oh! girls, it was a long time since I actually taked a big like on a girl, the last time was Ishizu. But who knows what could happen to Aoi?

Soft_member
Soft_member

where is my cardian link?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Are cloudians good?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

@BlogWobbles
Yes

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

PP20-JP004 White Aura Monokeros
Level 7 WATER Fish Synchro Effect Monster
ATK 2500
DEF 1500
Materials: 1 WATER Tuner + 1+ non-Tuner monsters
You can only use this card name’s (1) effect once per turn.
(1) When this card is Synchro Summoned: You can target 1 Fish monster in your GY; Special Summon it, but it cannot attack during this turn.
(2) If this card you control is destroyed by an opponent’s card (by battle or card effect) and sent to your GY: You can banish 1 other WATER monster from your GY; Special Summon this card, and if you do, it is treated as a Tuner.

Any opinions on this card?

cum2soon
cum2soon

@takes2long
I still don't understand the point of that card.
So you use 2 Inzektors to summon it, and then you need Dragonfly/Centipede to equip whatever it searched. But the equipment will have its effect overwriten, so there's no point in searching Hornet, only Giga-Mantis, but to trigger Giga-Mantis you will need yet another card.

Is there anything I'm missing?

TechHater
TechHater

@VisualMaster
already posted, newfag

w8t4u
w8t4u

@VisualMaster
makes synchro climbing to Biphamet easier I suppose?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@cum2soon
But the equipment will have its effect overwriten
What?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@Need_TLC
equip 1 Insect monster from your Deck to that target as an Equip Spell with this effect.
● The equipped monster gains 500 ATK and DEF.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@VisualMaster
Needs fishborg unbanned to make White Aura quasar

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Evil_kitten
How come nobody has pointed out that fucking Aleister is part of the Prophecy side

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

whose support is shittier dark magician's or red eyes?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Evil_kitten
Dark Magician. As much as it pain myself, I rather fun and weird combos that ALWAYS losing to MST or Cosmyc Cyclone

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@CodeBuns
How come you didn't even read the thread before posting?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@DeathDog
Put something heavy and flat on top of them for a day or so they’ll be aok

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@BunnyJinx
Liar summon fucking DMtDK

massdebater
massdebater

@CodeBuns
GIVE ME A WAY TO SEARCH EYE OF TIMEAUS IN WAWYS EASIER LIKE BLUE EYES HVE

StonedTime
StonedTime

@massdebater
he runs TEoT
no wonder you think DM is bad, fucking shitter

Supergrass
Supergrass

HERO's got a link monster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW6M8D41ZWU
Never lose all hope, HERO's never die.

DeathDog
DeathDog

i have about 4 extra slots in my HERO deck, should i run 3x brilliant fusion + 1 garnet?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@DeathDog
run a better archetype like ____

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Guys, there’s a bunch of Dragon Ruler tins lying around my local Toys R Us. And a Hieratic Sun Dragon tin and a Prophecy Destroyer tin. Should I fucking grab any of these? Are D-rulers gonna get unbanned and leap in price or some shit? What can you even pull from these.

@StonedTime
What would you run to summon it?

idontknow
idontknow

@AwesomeTucker
Buy all of them, then send me some.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

@AwesomeTucker
D-rulers gonna get unbanned
proofs?

SniperGod
SniperGod

@RumChicken
wow never thought of it that way

WebTool
WebTool

@Need_TLC
I wasn’t claiming it I was thinking it might happen soon, R-7 has fallen far from grace.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Need_TLC
/dng/ believes they could go to 3 and they still wouldn't do anything, surely this means they will at very least be limited in the next list.

Methshot
Methshot

@SomethingNew
How long took relinquished to be unbanned?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Need_TLC
@SomethingNew
D-Rulers getting unbanned
while grand mole, construct, and towers are still on it.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@whereismyname
What seems to be the problem? Dragons are cool, all the rest of those cards are lame.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@Methshot
Relinquished was never banned.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Methshot
*Thousand-Eyes Restrict

TechHater
TechHater

@Methshot
From 2006 to 2016.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@SomethingNew
surely this means they will at very least be limited in the next list.
Konami suffers from PTSD. Cards take up to a decade to get off the banlist. Don't forget Bestiari was still at 1 when D Rulers came out.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

post yfw the leaks were real

Snarelure
Snarelure

@LuckyDusty
That doesn't overwrite it's effect.
Reread the inzektors carefully.

FastChef
FastChef

@Methshot
take an english class

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@Snarelure
Maybe you should rereread the cards.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

LAN pholinks comes in the third cyberse Structure deck
Is Konami trying to kill themselves or something?
This thing literally makes the elemental link-2's useless unless you REALLY care about the atk boost and recycling a monster of the same attribute.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@BinaryMan
An equip spell with this effect
All inzektors say while this card is equipped, not while they're equip spells

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Sir_Gallonhead
But its just the second structure, 1 was a starter

Bidwell
Bidwell

@Sir_Gallonhead
poor sales

iluvmen
iluvmen

@Sir_Gallonhead
Well, at least I'm not waiting til next fucking year for the Dark
But goddamn will she feel like an unwanted toy by then

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@PurpleCharger
So you're saying the effect of the equipment inzektors are not spell effects, but monster effects that are applied while they are being equipped to another monster, is that right?

girlDog
girlDog

@Booteefool
Oh, my bad. Still, structure/starter decks are very cheap, i expected something like LAN pholinks to be in a core set after we got all the elemental links and getting rarity bumped to hell, not a card that you can buy for the price of a box of bubblegum.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@VisualMaster
first effect doesn't negate the summoned monster's effect
that's rare

massdebater
massdebater

@PurpleCharger
It'll work because konami says so. Just watch the LV pack rulings when they come out.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@girlDog
Well while his good, the element link-2 are better for single a tribute decks, and the ones from the vrains pack boost the different types so I don't think he ill be that good when he finally comes. Also he is trash in pure cyberse

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

@massdebater
It will work not the way it's described in the card, because the way it's described in the card is too shitty to be real
Ok.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Anyone have a working link for the HD card images? The one in the OP is still broken.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@eGremlin
I do

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Sir_Gallonhead
I mean, are there many fish with decent enough effects to use this with?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@ZeroReborn
You do realize that it says WITH this effect. And doesn't explicitly say to overwrite it right?
What card would you use as precedent for a monster's effect being overwritten?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

@Ignoramus
Take a fucking English class.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Sir_Gallonhead
I can think of a few Mermail cards.
Can summon it with Deep Sea Diva, I guess?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Ignoramus
go drink some more tap water mate sounds like you're going through withdrawal

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@CouchChiller
It's less about English and more about how Konami treats wording at this point.
I don't see you showing any precedent so I'm just going to write you off as being full of shit until you do.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@PackManBrainlure
You know you're talking to more than one person, right...?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@kizzmybutt
How far down do these things go

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@Ignoramus
Overwrite is not a keyword.
When Konami wants to add an effect without removing the previous one, they use "gains this effect", which is not the case.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Anything worth grabbing in Invasion:Vengeance lads?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Boy_vs_Girl
Are you retarded?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Boy_vs_Girl
Everything good in that set has been reprinted.
So, no.

iluvmen
iluvmen

@happy_sad
Where else can I grab Vermillion Dragon Mech? Other than online. I need INSTANT gratification.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@iluvmen
Other than online
Buy a brain instead.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@iluvmen
spending a shitload on packs until you get what you want is somehow easier than spending 5 dollars to instantly get what you want

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@iluvmen
How do you not get instant gratification from ordering it online when you open the envelope?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Deadlyinx
I need to duel a fucking villlain who has taken my sister’s soul and I need VDM to counter his boss I need it in 5 minutes or her soul will be gone what’s the difference I want it today how do I get it other than pulling shit from packs? Does it come as a promo in a tin or some shit?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@LuckyDusty
I was kind of thinking about fucking around with both Subterrors and Paleozoics. Is there anything from there that would end up in either of those final builds dudes?

WebTool
WebTool

@BunnyJinx
What's his boss monster?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

HOW much will Linkuriboh be when it ships?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@WebTool
I’m gonna do an effect Veiller combo with VMD to beat Red Nova Dragon. At least that’s how the episode would go.

Inmate
Inmate

@iluvmen
Oh, so you ARE retarded. My bad.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

The boss monster in Magibullet is the worst card in the deck.

WebTool
WebTool

@Fried_Sushi
Then don't run it, you fucking mongoloid.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Will they print Yuya's kuriboh?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Some other thread was taking about alternate formats with ban lists not based on cards, like banning them by decade or whatever, but rather limiting the types of summons you’re allowed to do. What might be meta in any of these formats?
tribute/ritual only
tribute/ritual/fusion only
tribute/ritual/fusion/synchro only
etc.
Will this ever be a thing?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@CouchChiller
Everything is just Nekroz until xyz and links show up

Lunatick
Lunatick

Why can't you people be nice to each other? Yugioh is all in good fun.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@Spamalot
I mean he kind of is. This is just proof Links are just like penda when it comes to powercreep. This is the Magician SD.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Lunatick
Fot the same reason communism doesn't works and capitalism does: humans are shit

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Lunatick
safe space is over there mate
/r/catalog#s=eddit

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@AwesomeTucker
So you're saying capitalists are not humans?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

The bandit Keith cards make a nice petdeck, I won some duels against krawler and shaddolls with it today.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@BinaryMan
I'm pretty sure that lawyers, jews and politicians don't have souls therefore inhuman.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@CouchChiller
Only if japs come up with it

TreeEater
TreeEater

@PurpleCharger
I won some duels against krawler and shaddolls
wow you must be proud of yourself HAHAHAHA

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

do you even run any of the new trickstars?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@TreeEater
he did say "petdeck"
it's not like he was saying he thought it was meta

Evilember
Evilember

@Carnalpleasure
exactly, so he thought it was pure skill

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Evilember
Nah senpai I thought something more akin to.
so this isn't 100 % unplayable garbage

Flameblow
Flameblow

Ban Level Eater
Ban Grinder Golem

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@BinaryMan
I'm saying that humans are shit, not that they aren't humans
That's why it won't work until humans stop being shit

eGremlin
eGremlin

How do I update G2Pro. New cards are coming out and now I keep seeing cards of my opponents whose pictures, names or effects I can't see, it just has a question mark for the picture, I assume because I'm not fully updated.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@Flameblow
ban yourself

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@eGremlin
G2 is dead, go back to percy

Skullbone
Skullbone

@eGremlin
you need to get a new one from the discord

Spamalot
Spamalot

@VisualMaster
They still haven't added links.

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Spamalot
Is it comfy under your rock?

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Spamalot
they did

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@VisualMaster
What discord. I download g2pro from the OP.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Fuzzy_Logic
g2pro is dead get the new percy from the OP

JunkTop
JunkTop

@eGremlin
I refuse to accept that G2pro is donezo. I'll keep trying.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@JunkTop
G2 literally started in response to percy being slow to get links. Gideon has said himself that G2 is dead.

Skullbone
Skullbone

alright boys about to go to my first local in 8 years of being absent from the game

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

i hope everyone has a playset of gouki shit since all they need is one more thing for this shit to get out of hand.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Skullbone
Are you ready to lose to 8 year olds?

girlDog
girlDog

@Skullbone
Cyberm’n
my man

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Skullbone
nobody cares

massdebater
massdebater

@Gigastrength
i do

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Dreamworx
Talk to me when they have more than 2 maindeck monsters with decent field/hand effects.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Rumored archetypes getting support in PP21 (source: Wargames Foundry)
1. HERO
2. Red-Eyes
3. Dark Magician
4. ABC
5. Black Luster Soldier
6. Pendulum Magicians
7. Jinzo
8. Phantom Sword
9. Blue-Eyes
10. Neos
11. X-Saber
12. Super Quant
13. Geargia
14. Dino
15. Ojama
16. Dark Magician Girl
17. Winged Kuriboh
18. Amazoness
19. Skull Servants
20. VWXYZ

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Can someone top with level eater already so we can get this shit banned?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@New_Cliche
i wish something that isn't good would get banned because i personally dislike it

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Why did they remove the rating system from ygopro?

Skullbone
Skullbone

@cum2soon
in a normal invektor board you have excess monsters that used their effects and since we cant just spam xyz you first go into her then keep popping off.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Lunatick
Level eater isn't good

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Snarelure
you're literally begging for somebody to top with it which means nobody does

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@LuckyDusty
Once per turn: You can equip 1 "Inzektor" monster from your hand or Graveyard to this card.

While this card is equipped to a monster, that monster's Level is increased by 3, also it gains ATK and DEF equal to this card's ATK and DEF.

While this card is equipped to a monster: You can send this Equip Card to the Graveyard to target 1 card on the field; destroy that target.

Break the effect down into it's core parts. Notice the difference between the effects. Then use simple logic to determine the interactions.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Snarelure
muh sekrit meta

WebTool
WebTool

@Snarelure
It's effect is good but it's not reliable enough to be broken. And it's only useful in shit with fuck huge levels in the main deck and those are either all bad or your monsters are useful on the field and not Link or Synchro fodder.

Spamalot
Spamalot

@BlogWobbles
Nightshade and Carobein are okay in my opinion

Techpill
Techpill

Is the Brilliant engine worth the money?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Snarelure
Grinder Golem is better than Gofu which is better than Level Eater.

I think it's insane that Grinder has been literally untouched for so long. OCG should have hit it when CIBR came out.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@happy_sad
but Gofu let you Normal Summon, user.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Techpill
No

Lunatick
Lunatick

@PurpleCharger
why not?

Methnerd
Methnerd

@Techpill
Sure, just make sure to use a slightly different sleeve for Garnet so you can rig your shuffle on the sly.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Which deck would Sasuke Uchiha use

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Lunatick
Because its nothing but brick city and its only good on very specific decks

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@TreeEater
only good on very specific decks
like?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@Stark_Naked
An amphibian that sold his soul for unlimited power to avenge his late friend.
Something with this in it

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Stark_Naked
blackwing

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Harmless_Venom
Give me a name for this

SniperGod
SniperGod

Whats the point of archetype specific versions of "call of the haunted"?
I mean...why would you ever run them over call of the haunted if you ever wanted to run it at all.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@haveahappyday
Yeah, and Grinder Golem can get you two Link-4 monsters by itself (including one that lets you summon a monster from your hand for free, which negates Gofu's advantage) and currently has four different one-card OTKs.

The current OCG meta is "who can draw into Grinder Golem the fastest". People at my locals are unironically running 3x Magical Contract Door because Grinder Golem is a win condition.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@Gigastrength
The cards name? Kappa Avenger
Pretty sure 復讐 is his most used word anyway.
Also funny that the Kappa's friend sorta reminds me of Itachi

massdebater
massdebater

@CodeBuns
Madolche, star grails, unironically gem-knights. Practically speaking, its only good on irrelevant petdecks

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@massdebater
its only good on irrelevant petdecks
well, i AM playing HERO's

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@massdebater
Madolche
irrelevant petdeck
fuck off

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@JunkTop
lol, good thing a bought it from my locals when meta tryhards were saying it was a shit meme.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Booteefool
God bless you user

Booteefool
Booteefool

kill yourself

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@SomethingNew
You shouldn't delude yourself into thinking it's anything more

Spamalot
Spamalot

@Deadlyinx
Oh, you're that retard that keeps asking questions about heros being good.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@Spamalot
nah i've never asked if they were good, hence why i implied they were an irrelevant petdeck in the exact post you're replying to

SniperWish
SniperWish

@Evil_kitten
So judging Construct's artwork, getting NOIDED is just getting put inside a capsule because that's a shame. I tought getting NOIDED means that an Infernoid unzips his pants and shoves his (harma)dik up your ass knots you too.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Spamalot
are HEROES good now?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Fried_Sushi
Madolche is the only archetype we need.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@Burnblaze
Honestly, HEROs are technically good but the entire deck is just sit on Dark Law and let jesus take the wheel, even the new link monster enforces sitting on Dark Law

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Sir_Gallonhead
that's why i was asking about the brilliant engine, trying to change the deck up a bit to make it more fun like running the vyon/malicious combo for link stuff
i don't really care whether it's super optimal or not as long as it's fun, because yes, i agree, sitting on dark law isn't really fun

hairygrape
hairygrape

testing petdecks in percy
nothing but Gouki and Buster Blader all day

SniperGod
SniperGod

@hairygrape
better than running into top tier shit all day while you're trying to test a petdeck

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Stark_Naked
I don't think you need Brilliant Fusion in HEROs, at least not now, with the OCG banlist i could agree because they have Stratos so you can just stratos search seraphinite normal summons something else, you know the business.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Are we getting main deck XXX-HEROs too?

Spamalot
Spamalot

@PurpleCharger
I just wished the """"archetype"""" had more support/cards maybe remaking all the cards Keith used instead of just spider and barrel dragon.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@SniperGod
I think Buster Blader is annoying to play against, but mostly I just don't understand why those decks are so popular.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Spamalot
The deck desperately needs a way to search out Desperado. And just more viable Dark Machines in general.

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Playboyize
I hope not, HEROes are cancer.
@Emberburn
anime

eGremlin
eGremlin

@hairygrape
Buster Blader all day
I always play BB, but I didn't seen another one in like 3 weeks

farquit
farquit

@Nojokur
alright thanks man. cheers

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

How is the Bandit Keith deck even supposed to be built?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@Harmless_Venom
Coin memes and GUNs.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@TreeEater
I hope not, HEROes are cancer.
t. guy who lost to HERO's

Emberfire
Emberfire

@lostmypassword
Indeed, so few that actually interact with the archetype as intended.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Xtra HERO
Xtra
This means that there will be more HERO links?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

If Masked HERO is based in Kamen Rider, X-HERO is based in what? MegaMan.EXE?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Nojokur
Maybe. Like yeah it seems likely since they created a whole new HERO "subtype" (like Destiny, Vision, Elemental, etc.) but maybe they just did it since it's a Link monster and they wanted it to be different. Nobody knows right now. We can only hope it's a sign of more to come.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@lostmypassword
What are Destiny HERO's based on? I mean Elementals are based on Western superheroes, right? So are Destiny HERO's supposed to be Western villains maybe?

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Nojokur
British stuff

Lunatick
Lunatick

Will he ever be good?

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Lunatick
I don't want DarkLaw.dek to become good
@Lunatick
Hopefully not

askme
askme

@Lunatick
he is good if you know how to build him and aren't a brainlet

takes2long
takes2long

@askme
post build

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

@takes2long
tested this online a ton at first then did some IRL tournaments at a couple LGS's and topped them as well
notice the lack of TEoT since it isn't searchable and thus is inconsistent trash. replaced it with odd-eyes fusion

Booteefool
Booteefool

@askme
How do you not die to mst, twin twisters, etc?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Burnblaze
this memeshit for the 70th time
fuck off

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Booteefool
By focusing on Navigation and only using Soul when it's safe or when you have your outs ready (Navigation in GY, Starlight Road set, Dragon Knight, etc).
You should only be running 1-2 Eternal Soul anyways. It's a slow and cumbersome card that, even ignoring the destruction effect, takes too long to actually work.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

@askme
"Good" as in "you can beat petdeck shitters online".

King_Martha
King_Martha

@Burnblaze
Cool, but no link monsters?

JunkTop
JunkTop

@King_Martha
I am not giving in to some paywall propoganda from Konami

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@New_Cliche
no, read the thread before replying to my posts, please
@King_Martha
side deck is very customizable, i just don't find much use for the extra extra deck slots

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

wait why is Iron Core back?

TechHater
TechHater

What's a good engine I can throw into my HERO deck to speed it up and maybe help with consistency? Currently running the Vyon/Malicious combo to get Links out.
pic unrelated (mostly)

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@PackManBrainlure
b-b-but muh locals

does /dng/ actually believe that a deck is good because it can top their locals?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

The Virgin Paywall Dragon
Small 2500 atk junk
Only has one arrow pointing down if he's in the extra deck zone
Opens up opponent's extra deck zones
His bounce effect can only be activated once while he's face up
Needs to be co linked to activate his bounce effect
His second effect special summons monsters from the """"""""hand"""""""
Needs another monster it's pointing to to be sent to the graveyard to even activate it
Summoning him off of Scapegoat/Gofu alone does nothing
Relies on other monsters/Link monsters on the field/hand to do his job for him
Not even a dragon
Cyberse scum
Small penis
The Chad Borreload Dragon
Beefy 3500 atk
Doesn't open up your opponent's zones under any circumstances
Always opens up 2 of your zones
Cannot be targeted by monster effects, not even by the player who summoned it.
Does not need to rely on other Link Monsters to activate his effects
Targets other monsters to make them lose 500 atk&def (Quick Effect) and because he's so Alpha, Nothing can be chained in reponse to this effect
Steals your monster and attacks you with it
Sends it to the graveyard during your end phase because it's used goods
Instant gratification off of a single Scapegoat/Gofu
Actually a dragon
Big Dick

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Lunatick
They made the Entertainment HERO subtype just for a match winner, they do whatever they want

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@kizzmybutt
HEROfags BTFO

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@kizzmybutt
Those legs confuse me

askme
askme

@PackManBrainlure
Why not?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Aleister made the spellbooks
He created a wonder wand spellbook of knowledge to suit his playstyle
Holy fucking lore.

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Sharpcharm
the Invoked link could be a grown-up Blue Boy

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

@kizzmybutt
Why do most male spellcaster have long hair?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

@BlogWobbles
Magic makes your hair grow.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Fried_Sushi
Paywall
Literally get high on crack for enforcing some shitty tripfag's garbage

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@BlogWobbles
They're too busy studying, no time for haircuts

I think you underestimate the amount of effort magecraft takes, they probably don't even shower

Playboyize
Playboyize

Generic Link 2 BL BR already
Is Konami getting desperate to push Links?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

are HEROES viable now?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Playboyize
Yes
@lostmypassword
Found the shill

5mileys
5mileys

@Burnblaze
yeah tier 0 when the new Link hits

Emberfire
Emberfire

What are good ratios for Mythical Beasts?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@Burnblaze
Only with the Brilliant engine.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@lostmypassword
LOLOLOLOLOL U FELL FOR DAH PAYWALL

JunkTop
JunkTop

@BunnyJinx
gr8!

Evilember
Evilember

@Raving_Cute
Is this the first time a card gets powercreeped within a year and is literally outclassed in every role?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Evilember
its the fate of generics

WebTool
WebTool

@Evilember
Isn't Mistar Boy outclassed by Abyssalacia for every Water deck besides shit like Dinomists?

likme
likme

@WebTool
No because sometimes the power boost will be better than the search effects especially with the discard cost.

Snarelure
Snarelure

@likme
t. illiterate

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

@Fuzzy_Logic
But their hair looks silky and shiny
pic related

FastChef
FastChef

@Evilember
We haven’t even gotten it yet and it’s been power creeped.
I’m trying to stay optimistic about links but this shit is getting out of hand

TreeEater
TreeEater

Link 11 that points to all monster zones when?

King_Martha
King_Martha

@TreeEater
points to all monster zones
Link 11
If you're making it retarded, at least go all-in and make it point to itself.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Xtra HERO Wonder Driver hits TCG
Stratos finally unbanned
IT'S TIME!

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@TreeEater
Link 2 monster that points to players and makes them play Russian Roulette when summoned when?

Methshot
Methshot

@TreeEater
Chimeratech fortress Link monster when, use your opponents Cyberse monsters to make him.

Sounds anime enough for vrains right?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@CodeBuns
I'm sure we'll be overjoyed when it gets imported sometime around 2033.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@BlogWobbles
Stereotypical wizard depicition

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I love powercreep!

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Sharpcharm
What's his endgame?

FastChef
FastChef

@FastChef
I want to rape construct

Evilember
Evilember

@Gigastrength
same, weeds out the shitty decks

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Methshot
Sounds anime enough for vrains right?
But how are you going to receive anime support if you're not in the anime?

eGremlin
eGremlin

dng: fucking christ when will they make some generic links instead of all this cyberse trash
also dng: HOLY SHIT THEY POWERCREEPED LINKLEBELL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

FastChef
FastChef

@TurtleCat
Philosopher's Stone. Or being able to conjure up waifu(s)

Inmate
Inmate

@TurtleCat
Make the perfect waifu.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Fried_Sushi
Nah, they are actually popular and sell boxes, HEROES aren't like Crystalfags that probably only will get the Pendulums in Legendary Duelists 2.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@TurtleCat
Invoke the burning abyss

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@Lord_Tryzalot
Meh, I'm sure they'll still find a reason to whine and make themselves out to be the victims when they have cards that any other deck would kill for (Emergency Call, A Hero Lives, etc.).

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@lostmypassword
You are literally the only person that doesn't like /dng/'s certified paywall dragon meme, it's part of this general's identity.

Firespawn
Firespawn

@TurtleCat
Shut the fuck up Trip

Supergrass
Supergrass

@TurtleCat
Lolwut, it's only """part of this general's identity""" because it got spammed by trip so much until retards started parroting it. If I posted "Umbral Horror are the real shit" every 50 posts or so for 6 weeks, it'd become a meme here too.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@TurtleCat
/dng/'s certified paywall dragon meme
>>>/leddit/

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Supergrass
Speaking of which, UMBRAL HORRORS ARE THE REAL SHIT YO

FastChef
FastChef

@Supergrass
UMBRAL HORRORS
I forgot those existed

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Supergrass
because it got spammed by trip so much
That's just a small factor but it's not the sole reason
Paywall Dragon symbolizes a majority vocal portion of the playerbase's discontent with the violent overtake that Link monsters did on the game and the hindering of all other mechanics.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@FastChef
REMEMBER MY ARCHETYPE?

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Poker_Star
If it actually is, they should have picked a better symbol than one that makes you think the person is retarded enough to be whining about having to pay money in order to buy cards in a physical card game.

idontknow
idontknow

How much will the spirit warriors stuff cost? What will be the most expensive cards?

askme
askme

@Poker_Star
WAAAH WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY 5 DOLLARS FOR A SET OF GENERIC LINKS FOR MY PETDECK

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Wait, so does the vrains box come with all the links or how does it work?

RumChicken
RumChicken

@Poker_Star
In any case, Ash Blossom is way more of a paywall than Firewall could ever hope to be.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Poker_Star
SHut the fuck up Trip

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

@Illusionz
That could be interpreted that way but it's most importantly seen as "now you have to use Link summoning to get to the good stuff you used to do". Hence the Pay*wall* Dragon.

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Poker_Star
that Link monsters did on the game and the hindering of all other mechanics.
Pendulums became top tier despite everyone saying "Links killed pendulums!"
Decks that didn't rely on extra deck that much didn't gave a fuck about the new rules (Examples: Lightsworn, Infernoid, Monarchs and True Dracos)
Link VRAINS is literally made for the fan favorite decks like madolche so there's no "hurr links killed the game"
Some of said fan favorite decks weren't that dead (i damn sure remember seeing people showing combos with Madolche under the new rules
LINKS KILLED THE GAME HURR
The only thing links killed was Ultimaya Tzolkin and Bahamut shark being in every deck, and i can sincerly say i am not missing these motherfuckers being everywhere around the time before Zoodiacs were a thing

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Stark_Naked
that could be interpreted the way the word is used in literally every other context besides the dng meme
no shit

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

@Poker_Star
a "meme"
spam of it is just a small factor
The only reason a meme can exists is via spam. What it "symbolizes" doesn't matters, it help it to be more spammed
and mostly trip spams it so it isn't "part of this general's identity", it's just trip trying hard to do a meme

takes2long
takes2long

@Firespawn
@Supergrass
@Stark_Naked
@Illusionz
@askme
@RumChicken
@CodeBuns
FUCK OFF KONAMI SHILLS

whereismyname
whereismyname

@Nojokur
Pendulums became top tier despite everyone saying "Links killed pendulums!"
Um I'm pretty sure They were much better off when they could special summon 5 from the extra deck and had 2 extra S/T zones.
Nowadays it's just Pendulum Magicians wank at the top of the mountain and the worse pendulum decks got even worse.
Decks that didn't rely on extra deck that much didn't gave a fuck about the new rules (Examples: Lightsworn, Infernoid, Monarchs and True Dracos)
That's besides the point, not arguing that they were affected negatively.
Link VRAINS is literally made for the fan favorite decks like madolche so there's no "hurr links killed the game"
Hence the paywall dragon and damage control.
LINKS KILLED THE GAME HURR
Not yet.

Playboyize
Playboyize

We literally got a BA link, you can't not love that

TreeEater
TreeEater

@Playboyize
You can't tell me what to love and not love, nerd

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

BUY MEEEEEEEE

Playboyize
Playboyize

@whereismyname
Hence the paywall dragon and damage control.
Honestly, the damage control for the new rules feels better on the long term. People can say ALL they want about "wow konami forced me to buy stuff" but wouldn't this dumb logic apply when your favorite deck gets support?

Let's take madolche for example, a madolche player already had his deck and played it during D R A G O N S format, losing or winning whatever, he was playing madolches. But then Anjelly is revealed and he has to buy Anjelly for Madolches, wouldn't Anjelly be the next paywall because you need her in your Madolche deck? Wouldn't this be Konami forcing you to buy this card?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Playboyize
Anjelly didn't come with a mechanic that stopped what you could do before, she didn't affect the whole game, so your analogy is discarded.

takes2long
takes2long

@TreeEater
You now love Tindangles, have fun

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@takes2long
No, I don't

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

What's your spicy tech?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@whereismyname
@Boy_vs_Girl
complaining about needing to pay 5 dollars to play your petdeck

Are you a child or something?

TechHater
TechHater

@VisualMaster
Main decked at 3.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

@VisualMaster
This little shitposter.

takes2long
takes2long

@Boy_vs_Girl
with a mechanic that stopped what you could do before
You are generalizing that every deck died because of the new rules, the only thing link rules stopped was making ACTUALLY unbreakable boards with whatever shit that was meta during late 2016-pre MR4 format, because i damn sure remember zoodiacs spamming the shit out of Naturia Beast. How is this a bad thing?

And on a secondary topic because i feel like the only people that cry about the new rules played petdecks like Ghostricks. Aren't these the same people that complained about zoos being overpowered? Aren't these the same people that complained about the game being too fast or powercreep is getting out of control? Aren't these the same people that hated Kaijus or Towers effects or Omninegators or the entirely of the r4nk toolbox? Aren't these the same people who wanted the game to slow the fuck down?
Link rules weren't the only thing that were killing petdecks or ruining yugioh in general. If Link rules killed yugioh then god damn yugioh must be a juggernaut that tanked tier 0 formats like Dragon Rulers, imaginary set rotation in the form of DUEA starting the powercreep-per-set machine, infinite loops, everydeck becoming an OTK deck because you didn't bought your handtraps or solemn strikes or fucking whatever people bitched about through the entire lifetime of the game and the whole unbreakable board of Cyber dragon infinity, rafflesia and 3 solemn cards with an ariadne up.

Supergrass
Supergrass

@takes2long
can't wait till people respond with magical christmas land shit and ocg memes and say "SEE THE GAME IS STILL AS FAST AS IT WAS!"

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@Poker_Star
Pretty much agreed, ironicaly the shitty ausie is right in this one

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@MPmaster
shitstars

Playboyize
Playboyize

Are cyber dragons still reliable with the new extra zone limit or should I just build another deck?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Supergrass
zoo and spyrals are """ocg memes"""

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@Snarelure
shit that was murdered by the list
a bricky deck crippled by the banlist that shits out an unbreakable board 2% of the time

Playboyize
Playboyize

dng: fucking links took over the game and made everything else unplayable
also dng: lol look at how shit all the link decks are compared to the existing archetypes

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Raving_Cute
DAE remember magicians?

askme
askme

@Garbage Can Lid
a bricky deck

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Garbage Can Lid
these decks had to get hammered by the banlist just to keep them from being 90% of the meta and drowning out everything else, so CLEARLY they're shit

Skullbone
Skullbone

@viagrandad
fucking zoo is ruining the game
this deck that is no longer playable is somehow ruining the game

epig

Firespawn
Firespawn

@askme
@viagrandad
Stop giving the b8r (You)'s.

happy_sad
happy_sad

hasn't been used in the meta for 10 years
people still think it should be banned

idontknow
idontknow

Ciel is cute

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

@idontknow
Ciel
Who?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

@happy_sad

turn regular traps into handtraps

It sucks that many traps are too slow for consideration in the current meta, but this wouldn't make the game better.

girlDog
girlDog

@VisualMaster
Delete this

Illusionz
Illusionz

@Soft_member
First have the tcg import Tsukihanami

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

*banishes all copies of an important card*

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

@Fuzzy_Logic
this card needs to be banned. not because it's too good, but because brainlets will always think it's good and will run it. brainlets need to have their hands held when building decks (this is why they all netdeck), so we need to ban this card so they stop using it

Illusionz
Illusionz

Question: how do you know that the TCG have poor sales, as some of you proclaims?, where is the source of that?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

@TalkBomber
B-but i like going turbo, baby!!

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Only now in a duel I had to find out that it could only attack MONSTERS twice. What is this? You need to contact fuse it with 2 Blue-Eyes why did they think giving it 2 attacks was too much?

massdebater
massdebater

@idontknow
they short printed her
Why couldn't it have been Sams, they didn't even put Gate at 3

Emberfire
Emberfire

@TalkBomber
You're right, the fact that it's almost always used in regional and YCS topping decks is simply proof that all meta players are shitters.

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Sir_Gallonhead
it's ok, brainlet. just keep netdecking and you'll be ok

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@TalkBomber
@Emberfire
it's hard to tell when /dng/ is being serious or not

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

@Illusionz
Its another meme, some months ago there was an article that a whole bunch of card games in japan (including of course, yugioh) were having bad sales but even the article said that the source wasn't that valid because it was posted by card kingdom who are, aparently, known for jewing out stuff. And then 2 days ago, someone posted a screenshot of EXFO being top 2 most purchased cardgame product in japan so shit's all over the place and there's no real proofs about yugioh having poor sales or not.

Skullbone
Skullbone

@Poker_Star
t. brainlet who runs 3x desires, AKA pic related

w8t4u
w8t4u

@Skullbone
If you're better than the top players then why don't you prove it?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

@StrangeWizard
And as for the TCG, i am pretty sure that the TCG is alright on this matter, mostly because the meta decks get rarity bumped here so there's probably some profit made. But even then, there's no proofs if the game has poor sales on the TCG side or not.

Snarelure
Snarelure

getting this in tan for my first playmat, just thought i'd let you guys know

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

@massdebater
They shortprinted her
Does it matter?
Nobody likes weatheries and i damn sure doubt they will top at all so they will be cheap to get

Techpill
Techpill

Make a plain search effect
Card becomes busted because the simple effect of searching a card makes this totally non-retarded mechanism broken

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Techpill
make a plain search effect (which forces you to discard, so it's not even a +1)
Card becomes busted because the simple effect of searching a card makes this totally non-retarded mechanism broken

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Monster equivalent when

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

@Emberfire
make a plain search effect (which forces you to detatch 1 material)
Card becomes busted because the simple effect of searching a card makes this totally non-retarded mechanism broken

5mileys
5mileys

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/White_Mirror

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@Techpill
Make a plain search effect
Card becomes busted because the simple effect of searching a card makes this totally non-retarded mechanism broken

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Emberfire
this totally non-retarded mechanism broken
Deck. Not mechanism.

5mileys
5mileys

@happy_sad
Nekroz is a deck, but Performapals are a mechanism
wew lad

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Emberfire
Effect is not limited to search

@Poker_Star
Effect is not limited to search

@Lord_Tryzalot
Effect is not limited to search

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Lord_Tryzalot
card doesn't deserve to be banned. at all. could put it at 1 or 2 easily

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@5mileys
Why didn't they print this one?

RavySnake
RavySnake

@Spazyfool
why didn't they print this +1?

Lunatick
Lunatick

@5mileys
Rule applies to every deck with said mechanism.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@RavySnake
Yes, why don't they print good cards

viagrandad
viagrandad

@Lunatick
Qliphorts were busted because of Pendulums, not because of being floodgates.dek

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

@RavySnake
It would probably be limited to "white" water monsters. I don't see any problem.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@viagrandad
If they were just floodgate.dek they'd be garbage like Malefics.

Being Pends/recurring fodder made them good

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@StrangeWizard
Uhh, no. You're getting the facts wrong. The bad sales were reported by leakers and they said that a set was going to get expanded to add more cards that initially planned which happened. Next, stores were complaining that no one wanted to buy new product and Japanese fans were complaining that MR4 killed most of their decks. Konami quickly announced Link Vrains to help old decks. They even made most of the new Links generic as fuck with the same arrows as each other. Konami then said that LD2 would have cards that could impact the current meta after the complaints that LD was bad and the cards weren't designed with MR4 in mind. Konami then forced Links into PP20 and busted out a new HERO Link out of nowhere. They've done a half dozen or so polls over the last 2 months on the OCG Twitter too which they've never done before. Finally YGO was beaten out by DM in October despite coming out a week earlier and costing half the price. That report wasn't even the big thing. It just confirmed suspicions.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@Sharpcharm
You're right, which is why Tellars were never relevant despite also being a floodgate deck.

Inmate
Inmate

@viagrandad
Then name one scale that searches and do nothing else that wasn't limited/banned.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@BunnyJinx
The bad sales were reported by leakers

wow, anonymous internet people said so, whelp guess it has to be true then

King_Martha
King_Martha

there are people who think pendulums are broken

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

wake up from nap
/dng/ realizing links fucked the game
I-it's like watching the coming of age for your own child. I-it's beautiful...

eGremlin
eGremlin

@Techpill
Make a plain search effect
Card becomes busted because the simple effect of searching a card makes this totally non-retarded mechanism broken

JunkTop
JunkTop

@BunnyJinx
""""""""leakers"""""""""""

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@BunnyJinx
Next, stores were complaining that no one wanted to buy new product and Japanese fans were complaining that MR4 killed most of their decks.
Were those the same stores that banned Zoodiacs?
Just a curious question

TreeEater
TreeEater

@PurpleCharger
Wow the people who leak set contents months in advance said so, so they must be lying or something for some reason.

Lunatick
Lunatick

@Carnalpleasure
nap

You mean shitposting as user because you're a pathetic waste of air.

girlDog
girlDog

@JunkTop
Tellars only won Worlds against a bunch of cripples and struggled against Nekroz's remains.

Shaddolls and their dying relevance did more than Satellars

@King_Martha
Pends are pretty broken. Being able to crap multiple waves of extra deck fodder is bound to lead to sillyness.

Flameblow
Flameblow

@Inmate
Darkwurm
inb4 lol it's Dark-restricted so it doesn't count

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Hey kid, nice search effects you got there

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

daily reminder to always do the opposite of what /dng/ says

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Flameblow
Explicitly state "nothing else" so retard won't post a card with severe drawback to counter-balance effect
I-it totally counts guize

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Gigastrength
How you seen the latest OCG tourney reports? OCG is being forced to run "No Spyral" tournaments in order for other decks to even see the light of day.

askme
askme

@Spazyfool
fuck outta here with that weak ass bullshit

iluvmen
iluvmen

@TurtleCat
Then I guess Scout is trash because it restricts you to Qli monsters.

TechHater
TechHater

@Carnalpleasure
People think Links fucked the game
Timeline is about literally the same as Pendulums becoming good
Huh, surprising

not

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@PurpleCharger
Is OCG finally going to see the light that TCG did and Emergency Ban tier 0 decks on release? Or are nips too honoraburu to do such a thing?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

@iluvmen
The fact that it is limited to Qli and yet it is not trash just makes your point even worse.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Can anyone post their Magibullet deck? Interested to see what people are running.

Emberfire
Emberfire

@PurpleCharger
https://ygorganization.com/ocg-11132017-ocg-japan-decklists/
27th Kamome Tei, Domestic Tournament, 11/11/2017, 16 Teams (48 Players) (March 2011 format)
You mean something like this?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

@Sir_Gallonhead
the only non magibullets I run are handtraps and ties, magibullet dont have the luxury of space for much tech.

SniperWish
SniperWish

@BunnyJinx
The fact that Dark Wurm has less restrictions than Scout but is not nearly as good makes your point utterly moot.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@Sir_Gallonhead
their Magibullet deck?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

@SniperWish
Darkwurm's scale completion only goes from 0-5, Monkey board could do 1-8 which allowed for more stuff and it was around the time pend5 was a thing, and shit was dangerous.

Techpill
Techpill

express my amusal at the existence of people who think pends are broken
they offer up more of amusal for me thinking their 'reasoning' will convince anyone of anything

StonedTime
StonedTime

@Methshot
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@BinaryMan
I'd hate her but you have to admit she's the lesser of two evils when compared to the degenaracy of millshit and searchfagging.

Hate the cancer, not the chemo

Emberburn
Emberburn

@BinaryMan
activate Red-Eyes Fusion
opponent harurara you
...
surrender
banned when?

FastChef
FastChef

@Deadlyinx
Droll and Lock is perfectly fine for stopping excessive searching without being utter cancer, and Grass/self-mill decks were never oppressive.

Evilember
Evilember

@SniperWish
Point: a simple effect like searching breaks pendulum because this mechanism is inherently retarded

Counterpoint: Darkwurm searches and is not banned, even though it has a severe drawback that is totally not relevant to my point.

Booteefool
Booteefool

@TurtleCat
deck?

Snarelure
Snarelure

@Lord_Tryzalot
You're not even supposed to run it in the first place, you have far better options for the same cost

Nojokur
Nojokur

@Evilember
Scout has a significantly worse drawback than Darkwurm in regard to Pendulum Summoning, yet is banned despite the fact that my entire argument is that being a Pendulum with a search is the only reason it was banned, not things like "how it interacts with other cards"
Again, see Brionac, which is limited not because being a searcher in a Ritual deck is inherently busted, but because it is a searcher for Nekroz

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

@Nojokur
yet is banned

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

@FastChef
needing the opponent to get off a search first to stop them
being a LS/Noid apologist
The STATE of loli haters

King_Martha
King_Martha

Poll out of curiosity about the pack and totally not working for Konami to gather information
http://www.strawpoll.me/14403913

Emberfire
Emberfire

@Deadlyinx
Whoops. Point still stands.

girlDog
girlDog

@Lord_Tryzalot
where did the judgement dragon touch you

askme
askme

@Nojokur
Again, see Brionac, which is limited not because being a searcher in a Ritual deck is inherently busted, but because it is a searcher for Nekroz
And Monkeyboard is banned because it searches a pendulum, period.

JunkTop
JunkTop

@FastChef
Grass/self-mill decks were never oppressive.
Ah yes, mill decks were never oppressive despite them having a fuckton of tools to OTK your fucking face if Grass resolved along with summoning either triple fucking decatron or summon the shit that makes triple decatron boards unbreakable and combined with the fact that milling decks run THIS BITCH so they have even more tools to oppress and disrupt you and by the time turn 3 hits you get N O I D E D.
And before you say "muh zoodiacs", 60 cards zoodiacs was a REAL thing

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

@askme
Monkeyboard is banned because it searches a pendulum, period.
I'm sorry, but was there an errata I missed where they changed Monkeyboard from generically searching Pendulums to only searching Performapals?

iluvmen
iluvmen

@King_Martha
They're all shit where's my Slot Machine Link card?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

@haveahappyday
Nice falacy user, you sured proved your point.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

@Harmless_Venom
this card is banned because it does x
it doesn't actually do x
FALLACY

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

@JunkTop
Okay fine, Grass is a super broken card which is why Grass decks have been ass-reaming the OCG meta, ever since release up to right now. Oh wait.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@King_Martha
Does Konami even lurk here?
I'd imagine they'd be more focused on reddit and 2ch than this wasteland.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

@Fried_Sushi
But user your wrong, just accept this simple fact and move on with you're life.

massdebater
massdebater

@BinaryMan
implying Zoo wasn't around at the time of Grass
implying Noids weren't the only deck which could keep up at the time
inb4 muh Zoo hybrids don't count as Zoo

Playboyize
Playboyize

@Fried_Sushi
Card is banned because it does x
N-no, it does not do x. I mean, it does x, but with a clause that totally wasn't implied enough. D-doesn't count.
Any fucking pendulum that searches on activation with no drawback would be banned in the Arc-V era.

girlDog
girlDog

@BinaryMan
Oh wait
I have an objection, SPYRALs are 99% of the meta, but the 1% is 60 card NOIDS, the competition for a tier 0 deck is the "totally not oppressive and innocent" super milling decks.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Predaplant engine or Brilliant engine for HERO's?

5mileys
5mileys

@RavySnake
MOTHERF-

@Playboyize
Brilliant

Methnerd
Methnerd

@RavySnake
nice
i
c
e

viagrandad
viagrandad

@5mileys
Brilliant
Why? I don't disagree, just trying to get info both ways

happy_sad
happy_sad

@Playboyize
You said, and I quote, "Monkeyboard is banned because it searches a pendulum, period." That's not only false, but again misses the point that its specific interaction with other cards is what led to it being banned, just like how Brionac was not limited because it searches a ritual, period.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@RavySnake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iYayFAtbAc&t=50s

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@StrangeWizard
So I guess that autistic star thing and possibly proxy dragon got power creeped that quick huh ?Best part is that Star didn't even make it to the TCG before the leak so now we have no reason to buy it. Konami doesn't surprise me

girlDog
girlDog

@Ignoramus
The OCG doesn't give a shit, people already bought Linklebell.

SniperGod
SniperGod

@RavySnake
WOAH DUDE LMAO HOW THE FUCK YOU DID IT, YUGI DA BESTO OOOOOOOOO

farquit
farquit

@MPmaster
There's so many Sub-archetypes for HERO's they could use any humanoid to make a new card

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

@happy_sad
Monkeyboard was not banned because of how it interacts with Performapals, it was banned because it searches a pendulum. Why do you think there aren't more cards like that?

Meanwhile there are many other cards that searches a ritual monster. There are even cards better than Brionac at doing so.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Ignoramus
who the fuck would use this over proxy, they have completely different purposes and arrows

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Emberfire
Something that's broken, but not broken enough that your opponent will at least stick a turn or two before they scoop

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Sharpcharm
Yes, and somehow those better cards are not banned. Again, it's almost as if simply being a member of a certain summoning type with a search effect was not the sole reason either of those cards got hit by the banlist.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

LVP1-JP096
Ebirate, the Raiding Abyss Kaiju
ATK 2000 LINK-2
Arrows: Top left, Top right
WATER Link Effect Monster
Materials: 2 Effect Monsters
Cannot be used as Link Material. (1) Can only be Link Summoned to your opponent's field by using the appropriate Materials on your field. (2) Once per Duel (Quick Effect): Link Summon this card to your opponent's field by using Materials on their field. and if you do, return this card to your Extra Deck during the End Phase of the turn this card was Link Summoned this way. You can only Link Summon "Ebirate, the Raiding Abyss Kaiju" once per turn.

Source: https://yu-gi-oh.jp/index.php?page=details&&id=151

Booteefool
Booteefool

@5mileys
@Methnerd
@PackManBrainlure
spooky 5's

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

@Fuzzy_Logic
run a mill deck
opponent uses this
I mean, thanks for removing 12 cards from your deck.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

@TurtleCat
leak at 7:30 pm

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

@girlDog
For that one week everyone decided to play it, yeah

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

@PurpleCharger
But that's wrong you fucking retard.
Where are the other Monkeyboards? If Monkeyboard is only broken because of Performapals then why there isn't a non-performapal Monkeyboard?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

@TurtleCat
It doesn't stop the fact that lucksack.deks that run the lawnmowing machine are some bullshit, and even in the TCG i recall someone went top 1 with a 60-card variant of SPYRAL (with lightsworns by the way) so as much as you think Milling decks are some shit or not "meta relevant", they're still a rogue-tier deck that can give any petdeck a bad time.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@Evil_kitten
I wouldn't get my hopes up buddy after seeing that new HERO and lightsworn link I'm not expecting any crystal bonds level support.
@Inmate
@Need_TLC
Deck had a lot of potential though and it still does. If it had a way to swarm out multiple xyz's and a type changer they'd be tier 2 or high tier 3 in no time.

Emberburn
Emberburn

@Spazyfool
Darkwurm. Don't bother with trying to say that its restrictions are relevant, because if they were then Scout would never have been hit by the banlist, unless you're willing to admit that there was a factor besides simply being a Pendulum searcher.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

@Ignoramus
And a final note becuase you said something about grass running over the OCG meta, isn't Fairy Tail-Snow limited in the OCG?
Becuase this alone shows that shit isn't irrelevant.

5mileys
5mileys

@Gigastrength
If it had a way to swarm out multiple xyz's and a type changer they'd be tier 2 or high tier 3 in no time.
if it were really good, it would be really good

farquit
farquit

@Ignoramus
they're still a rogue-tier deck that can give any petdeck a bad time.
Because we all know that rogue decks are what's killing this game.

takes2long
takes2long

@Emberburn
God, you're fucking retarded.
Darkwurm searches, never mind its drawback makes it unusable.

Why do you think it has a drawback, retard? What is the point of that drawback?

Supergrass
Supergrass

@Evil_kitten
Would that card be busted or broken though?

takes2long
takes2long

@takes2long
cards have literally never had unnecessary restrictions in the history of this game
You can't be this stupid, right?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I just wished more support for HEROes.

Soft_member
Soft_member

@Sharpcharm
Still not big enough as Leo Dancer who is literally begging you
Leo Dancer is pure, the slut of the archetype is Blue cat, she's begging you to destroy her.

massdebater
massdebater

@takes2long
unnecessary restriction
R E T A R D
E
T
A
R
D

Skullbone
Skullbone

@BunnyJinx
Why can't Konami stop hating on Synchros?
it's not that they hate them. It's that they just don't care. Xyz's get game changers like SH.ARK and utopia the lighting which made boss monsters either useless or the "you cannot play yugioh while I'm on the field" shit we see today. And what do synchros have ? 3 lv 12 hard to summon dragons that are still power creeped due to the fact that almost every boss nowadays has the same type of effect and the decks that summon them don't Insta lose to kaiju's. And let's not forget constant misses like charge warrior and this golden pile of dogshit being shown to you right now.
@BunnyJinx
Synchron extreme only gave win more cards and didn't fix the deck's problems. Synchron's are still a 50/50 "pray that you get first turn combined with a hand that can make Blazar or scoop".

Booteefool
Booteefool

/vg/thread/195662957#p195662957
/vg/thread/195662957#p195662957
/vg/thread/195662957#p195662957

Snarelure
Snarelure

@takes2long
Not him and I'm not reading the reply chain, but I think his point is that it's not the fact that it's a Pendulum searcher that got it banned, it's the fact that the archtype - regardless of its mechanics - was good.

For example, if they printed a Spell like:
Add 1 Effect Monster from your Deck to your hand.
While ROTA was still on the banlist, it would probably be banned too. It has nothing to do with Effect Monsters being an overpowered mechanic, simply that this sort of consistency card would be too good.

I mean, Dinomist has a search card, Igknights and Metalfoes revolve around searching, Odd-Eyes summons things right out of the deck, Master Cerberus searches, and Zefra and Majespecter have too many searches, but none of them made it onto the banlist because being Pendulum isn't inherently strong or broken.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

@Lunatick
@GoogleCat
@New_Cliche
It's because the nips have SUPER POLY. They can re-set it ready to disrupt an opponents play next turn with this card which is actually very good. We don't have this luxury. We need a tcg exclusive(so the fucking chinks can kiss our asses) hero archetype restricted version of super poly in order for this card to be good.
@haveahappyday
not loving one of the most iconic and most popular decks in existence
Why don't you attack Blackwing faggots next or maybe lightsworns who actually deserve this hate ?
@SomethingNew
Yeah Odd-eyes is the worst designed card out of all the aces. It's clear that they're getting lazier as time goes by.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

@Poker_Star
Same Gagaga's had a shit load of potential. Imagine the entire XYZ toolbox at your disposal. If the duels in Zexal weren't a dick measuring contest on who had the strongest number/most forms then we'd get well designed decks like blackings(or at least huge like performapals).
@Soft_member
@BinaryMan
I guess he's talking about Gaga magician who does arguably look edgy with the chains and white hair, but his design is my favorite out of the whole bunch regardless. Perhaps out of all the Zeal line up

takes2long
takes2long

@askme
Just fucking give Legacy support to zexal decks already. They've been stalling for so Long it's honestly pathetic. They made it clear when they gave the photon user a completely garbage new deck

hairygrape
hairygrape

@Supergrass
Fire kings
fucking broken Xyz's like Chidori and totem bird

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

@SomethingNew
Nothing in Spirit Warriors will top anything worth shit so the value of the short prints will probably remain, sucks for those that wanted Magibullets

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

@Gigastrength
Why would anything in Spirit Warriors be even remotely expensive? Pendulum Magicians are literally topping but the whole deck, extra and all, is under $30.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Is Blue-Eyes or Lightsworn better?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

@Lord_Tryzalot
Opponent uses d-barrier for xyz.
Use fusion instead as fallback.
Don't netdeck if you can't understand mechanics.

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